Are Celtics too thin at Center after trading Robert Williams to Portland in Jrue Holiday deal?

[@davida1251]

If that is the case, I guess the C's were too thin at Center most of the time since Rob was always hurt

[@subliminakeys1674]

Bingo. Let's also not forget you brought in a player who won a championship.

[@Toucansam46]

They have been thin at Center for a while. Trading Rob just makes it increasingly thinner at an already thin position

[@tylergary5953]

@@Toucansam46if we sign Dwight, he’s robs replacement. Probably more reliable, fills the role, and championship pedigree. Veteran presence is huge to a championship team. Look what he did for the lakers when he was called old and washed. He’s in crazy shape.

[@tylergary5953]

@@Toucansam46and we signed weyen Gabriel to a training camp deal. With him and possibly Dwight, we’d just need one more body maybe. A switchable player able to guard 3-5. Can get a bucket on occasion type player. I’m sure there out there.

[@ArthurAnthony-n1e]

Exactly,Rob was great when he played Portland will see after the first month all last year I said he was injury prone

[@rxdoctordaddy1795]

Dude, the ceitics traded two very injury prone players for an all star point who can play defense. This was a no brainer.

[@thomaskelly8571]

It really is ridiculous....all the talk about KPs health concerns and now they trade away to very injury prone players.,when was the last time either played a full season, for an all star PG and now we are going to complain depth? Gotta find something to complain about.

[@MITCH_61]

He played 67 games for Boston last year…that’s hardly VERY injury prone.

[@thomaskelly8571]

@mitchgym_rat446 and KP played the same for Washington . By the way as with KP look how many games they missed over the last 5 yrs.

[@thomaskelly8571]

You forgot to mention the previous 3....36, 56 and 54

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

Celtics do not need more perimeter players. They did not resign Griffin and traded/gave up on Fall Cornet and Muscalla. Time will tell but no bigs = no big game wins

[@youtubeconnollyfamily]

I’m just happy they got him yesterday, so Boston nation had something to smile about rather than watching the patriots get annihilated

[@ssaustin2686]

Traded two injury prone guys for an all star level Pg that has championship experience rather do that pray for another season Rob and Brog are healthy

[@JonJack-g3m]

Rob will was there for the last 2 postseasons atleast healthy

[@ssaustin2686]

@@JonJack-g3m he ain’t play last yr till the finals

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

​@@JonJack-g3mplaying 18 minutes a game...

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

Health issue is completely true. But trading big for small players is not a recipe for success unless you are the Nuggets or Philly

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

@@BenWick-oc8pv what? Lol We just added a7 3 player for a 6 3 player u weirdo

[@YER3721]

Cerrone with a great take! Size in todays NBA is crucial!

[@jameskopie5989]

I feel any solid veteran big man will be fine to fill in the minutes needed..Love Rob BUT injuries always scared me w him..Great trade

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

Boston is now one of the most talented teams. Joe Mazulla is now the weak link. I thought they should have removed him last season. He lost the locker room.

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

* THEE most talented

[@stewartmacleod4351]

I have to concur..i do not have any confidence in Joe ..but we have a stronger coaching room now

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

Philippines are the only country to have basketball as their national sport. Why are they irrelevant in world basketball? No bigs. Small ball will work in High school but not NBA. Get rid of Joe

[@4ubrandon]

Lost licker room damn near bounce back from being 3-0 that's not living locker room

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

@@BenWick-oc8pv we just added a 7 3 big lol

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

I'm happy now our team, I hope Robert Williams III & Malcolm Brogdon stay healthy next season 💪🔥💪

[@Muneeb08]

I love Rob. So many important things he did for the team at his best, but just wasn’t consistently on the floor enough. Need him for at least 70 games every season imo, at least for someone of that importance to a defence. N he just couldn’t provide. Hope C’s can find a proper rotational Center. Not too fond of Wenyen Gabriel tbh

[@tylergary5953]

We gotta sign Dwight. Is Jeff green available too? Those are some guys we should be adding to our roster.

[@blacklyfe5543]

I say at least 60 and be healthy post season

[@maDMan0894]

I see the Boston Celtics winning it all this season honestly its a perfect roster right now Jrue Holiday really worth those trades Best 2way point guard seeing the pieces around JT JB Porz Al ...Wow

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

Unless Horford can hold off father time, the Celtics are in danger of being irrelevant in a conference with Embiid, the Lopez brothers and even Julius Randle gave them serious trouble last season

[@JohnnySportsTalk]

Losing size? Jrue is 6’5 , wenyen is a big and is a NE native that will play his heart out for us to help replace rob !

[@YER3721]

Jrue Holiday is 6’4, and if Wenyen Gabriel is playing for the Celtics then they will go another season Ringless

[@warriorspiritmovers2589]

Wenyon is a training camp contract

[@susan3288]

I agree wholeheartedly. It's not enough to make the EASTERN CONFERENCE TITLE. THE KNICKS ARE GOING TO BE UPSET IN A ROUND 1 AGAINST THE CELTICS. WATCH MY WORD.

[@JohnnySportsTalk]

come back to this during the season.

[@YER3721]

@@JohnnySportsTalk I will, and Wenyan Gabriel will be on another team once the Celtics realize he is nothing but a g league player.

[@TheMysticCastle42]

Rob was awesome but he just wasn’t there enough. His injuries made this trade possible for Brad.

[@chriswright8074]

It's mainly a contract thing

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

Not just that. With browns contact, Tatum a upcoming contract, and the second apron, they need some salary to roll off. But add on.

[@JamesSmith-xo3vj]

They needed a PG which they didn’t have

[@514Exc]

I thought Brogdan was really going to be that guy for them I was hyped when they got him but injuries, after losing marcus smart they need a defender and Jrue is a good pick up even though i hate to see RW go

[@blacklyfe5543]

They have Derrick White!

[@JoeSwervo]

Why does everyone push the narrative that “Smart has an ego & he forced it taking the big shots” As a long time Celtic fan, I can remember pretty much every big shot he’s taken, at least in recent times, and I gotta say I never really had a problem with it 🤷‍♂️ and if you did, blame the coaching. What you see on the floor, especially in those huge moments late in close games, is a direct result of the head coach and his staff

[@charlesgeorges3192]

First time hearing Cerrone Battle and very impressed.

[@RealClipz22]

Is the Celtics and Bucks Media Day Today ?

[@ewoczito23]

Yessirski I believe nba tv will show it 5 pm eastern

[@chriswright8074]

​@@ewoczito23no it's this morning their Livestreaming it

[@srvtx6527]

I don’t understand How you say “I want to see RW develop”. Really dude. This is your full time job you get paid for! Rob Williams has been in the league for FIVE Years! Has played 209 games in FIVE YEARS! This trade For Jrue was a HOME-RUN Period you FOOLS

[@jeffhollow6145]

You guys know your stuff!

[@perrytheplatypus5085]

No clue what this guys is flapping his guys abt. The list of players that have openly said they wanted to come to Boston or had them on their list of teams is surprising and rightfully so n

[@diegobromfield]

If you cut the clip off and stop listening at 8:05 you'd think this was an all round sensible discussion. But dude ruined it after that by saying the Bucks weren't as good defensively. Bro they have Giannis & Lopez in their front court. Giannis the best two way player and Lopez nearly won defensive player of the year. Stop the cap man. 😅

[@gregleavitt1255]

Better than the rest of the Boston teams combined.

[@eggynyce]

Felger Boston is where it’s at bro

[@toyota420xp]

Al Horford shot 39% the playoffs when was 0-7 one game. 27% from three-point line he was about seven points and seven rebounds for the playoffs

[@Holdemnicely6969]

I like Steph and the Warriors I wanted them to get Neemias I saw him giving Wiseman the business last year I thought he has a great skill set I know Wiseman has not been a good player so far but I like what I saw.

[@ericwiitala5407]

As much as I love RWIII & think Brogdon was a really good player, it's always followed by "When healthy." Jrue is a better overall player. Problem is I don't like the 3 & D philosophy because when tired, you lose the legs and that 3 doesn't fall. It's too streaky. I'd like to see a little more balance and get some inside help to be a threat to get a few buckets and especially help with rebounding. We'll see what happens. I can't blame Brad Stevens for making the deal.

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

Porzingus was the 3rd best post up player in the NBA last season He's going to add a ton of variety to the Celtics offense

[@ericwiitala5407]

@@SabrinaRoseLewis the reports of his injury is making me cautious. His talent is ridiculous and again "when healthy" the offense has the potential to be the best in the league. But how's the D? To me defense isn't just "ability" you got to be mentally tough and they need to stop complaining.

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

@@ericwiitala5407 he was one of the best rim protectors in the NBA last season also

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

They have porzingus and horford... and can easily grab another big with the 6.2 million mle

[@andygonzalez9875]

Mle is done after passing the second apron

[@blacklyfe5543]

Horford is reaching middle age

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

@@andygonzalez9875 that's not true lol

[@SabrinaRoseLewis]

@@blacklyfe5543 ur point?

[@TheRobversion1]

Wenyen gabriel is good for depth but we need a rotation big. Gabriel and Kornet arent rotation bigs. I hope theres one more move from Brad. I hope we can trade PP + pick for a rotation level big like one of the young bigs from Charlotte like nick richards/mark williams of from OKC like poku, dieng, jaylin or JRE.

[@Beelzebub-t1x]

If you trade Pritchard, now you need a third guard, and serviceable guards are much tougher to come by. I think Gabriel is good enough to be a third stringer at his position. We can't play the "well what if Porzingis gets hurt?" game here, cause it doesn't matter who your bigs are at that point.

[@m_w501]

Gabriel isn't even a true Center. He's a Forward.

[@Beelzebub-t1x]

@@m_w501 He's played more than 70% of his career at center.

[@TheRobversion1]

@@Beelzebub-t1x i think serviceable guards are easier. We just saw cam payne sign with the bucks. Serviceable bigs are harder. Whoever the 3rd guard is a garbage time pg. And tbh at this point in his career, PP is overqualified to play garbage time pg. Theres Svi, banton or JD for that. In the regular season, jrue, white and point-JT is more than enough to handle pg duties. Svi tbh should be more than enough for the "3rd PG". If we really want to play bigger, as Brad said, we need more bigs.

[@TheRobversion1]

@@m_w501 either way, we needed a big. Did you see the scrapheap out there? We just need somone whos not old/washed and has played some rotation mins for their previous team. Slim pickings like it was him, garuba, people out of the league and the old folks.

[@stevenhines5550]

Celts have the best top six in the league. I think the balance is amazing; I don't think whatshisface the coach can manage it - thank god Sam Cassell is on the bench with him. We can finally watch some basketball again instead of a exclusive three ball. They can pound the dog shit out of everyone with a complete inside-out game and defensive suffocation. Hope Pritchard and Hauser can provide a little punch. I don't know anything about Banton, Brisette, Queta, Stevens and Svi. We will need some defense from the bench.... Nobody is going to miss RW III after watching a Tatum, Porzingas, and Horford front court. There will be plenty of games where Tatum runs the 4 spot. The Celtics should beat up 90% of the league and they should be circling their dates with Milwaukee and Denver. Those two teams plus Miami and Memphis and Philly and Cleveland should be their only competition. I just glanced at their schedule. If they don't start the season 16-0 then there is a little problem.

[@TerranceHandy]

The Lopez Brothers will be a problem tho🤔

[@pmicozzi]

Very optimistic and predictive of you Mr. Hines. Would you care to make a parley wager on your 16-0 start?

[@tightkitchen]

Jayson Tatum has been surrounded by high end talent for years. If they don’t win it this year, media will pounce on him.

[@josh35292]

Huh? The pressure is on giannis and dame to win also Boston have their issues they got no Center and the coach is poor

[@tightkitchen]

@@josh35292 yeah but Giannis already won. Sure they are at a must win situation but Jayson haven’t won it yet with premier talent.

[@blacklyfe5543]

Bro they aren't going to win next year in 2024

[@tightkitchen]

@@blacklyfe5543 Celtics imo won’t win it with this lineup. Sure they’re strong in the perimeter but they’re very vulnerable inside. Teams like Bucks, Lakers, Nuggets will have a field day in the half court.

[@warriorspiritmovers2589]

Dump an end of bench guy, sign blake and howard

[@JoseLopez-kv1lr]

Nobody talking about the trailblazers lol they have win big time. They truly have great great great pieces of players that can truly make a run in the playoffs. As long as Scoot Henderson can take charge this team and now that they're help getting the bord with robert williams and deandre ayton, i see a great future in Portland.

[@brycecoleman6349]

It’s a gonna be more of a chemistry battle in Boston with them having just have 4 guys that was averaging 20 points or more last season. Same argument people have with kd lead superteams it’s only 1 ball to go around

[@immadkhalid1887]

as a celtics fan holiday would put the fear of the bucks in me when we played them im sooo excited to have him on the celtics. rob was great but he was hurt most of the time. i will miss malcom tho

[@marklopata4218]

We need some big man just for energy blocks and rebounds that been are achillies for years no second chances Tatum don't go after his own shots

[@tylergary5953]

Dwight and maybe Jeff green are guys they should be adding to the roster.

[@unclegreenskatesoda9570]

These guys are WAY too high on rob williams... 'dominant player with the ball in his hands'... Rob Williams will NEVER be a prime offense guy.. he's awesome at what he does, he's smart, he has greta passing for a big...but he was never going to evolve into a 3rd option type guy behind the Jays... that's delusional... I doubt Rob retires with one full season under his belt.

[@jayharrington9689]

coach is the weakest link and biggest barrier to a championship

[@Bars11_]

Kornet is trash when it comes to defence...he is unrealiable as a backup.

[@ArthurAnthony-n1e]

Did y'all not see the Celtics signed a 7ft from LA wake up, the only thing Im concerned with is of Holliday signs an extension

[@pmicozzi]

It will take time for this new team to build synergy. Let’s not get excited gentlemen! Championship teams don’t mesh that quickly unless you have a Doc Rivers level leader. Joe Mazzula ain’t pulling off a 2008. Hopefully they can sign Jrue for a few more years.

[@silversurfer9398]

Now they should Sign Dwight Howard !

[@ludontspeak1102]

Yea and no I mean they were hurting at the point guard position Malcom is injury prone then it’s like yea they lost Robert but he’s injury prone to but horford just keeps getting older and older teams can exploit him on d

[@unclegreenskatesoda9570]

It's gonna be Rob William's 6th year, it's past 'developing'

[@Austin-316]

Celtics have for the most part always been thin at the center spot. Luke kornet coming in as the second big could be a serious problem tho

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

Have you watched the terrible bench management of Mazzulla. When the season heats up he goes to a 7 man rotation with no bigs

[@kenkanifffromconnecticut9921]

Love Time lord but go back and watch during playoffs last year Time lord was not in during crunch time. He has not once showed me he can play minutes.

[@shadow8492]

Chris forsberg looks like the president from Monsters vs Aliens

[@dionruffin3996]

They will probably trade Brogdon as well 😂

[@DOOGAART]

Time to pick up Dwight Howard for a solid 15 minutes per game

[@Tommy-lh3uj]

Starting lineup should be PG : jrue SG : JB SF : JT PF : SF C : AL Bench : 6moty D.white Sam oshae Lamar pp Luke Walsh Neemias

[@aieshadaniels6104]

They have depth: DERRICK SVI OSHAE LAMAR & WENYEN THEN PAYTON SAM AND NEEMIAS who can keep that starting line up of JH JB JT KP & AH!

[@Sith-Happens]

What do they see in Luke Kornet? I mean anytime he is out there he is being out classed in every way. You can’t rely on a reserve to handle that 2nd unit and Luke ain’t that guy

[@ask7554]

The guy on the far right is wrong. Ball handling will not be an issue for the Bucks. Everyone knows that Giannis, Khris & Jrue brought the ball, it'll be the same with Dame. He's just plugging in for Jrue but better for their offense in termsof offense & pace, he's more quick, has better decision-making and more clutch than Jrue.

[@djcity1]

Get Daniel Theis back!

[@toyota420xp]

The only way this is a good trade as if Robert Williams gets hurt

[@JDigg99]

Dude on the left is hella annoying

[@SME5724]

Felger has been and always will Be negative… get rid of this guy I can understand a objective take but it’s always negative always

[@jerridjohnson4516]

We need to sign Dwight Howard

[@angelitomacagba5767]

its time for OKC to make a move. Trade for Rob Williams now! give up Pokusevski plus 2 1st rd pick. or 3 1st rd pick plus expiring contracts.

[@bluraffe6197]

if u a was depending on rob williams to bring home the wins who has not played more then 35 games being managing mins then u was dreaming . celtics lost someone who can direct traffic and a 2 way point guard and they hit the jackpot. anytime we won and been close to winning it had nothing to do with rob . rob added value for the shot spurts he played nothing more. Marcus was starting to believe he was tatum and needed to go but was a great leader

[@ThinkEagle7]

The guy on the far right doesn't have a good take. He saw Jrue got cooked against miami? I like Djrue but , the Bucks is the best rightnow. Im a Miami fan.

[@vibeslafren1604]

Now Boston doesn't have a rebounder and shot blocker they need to keep Robert and get rid of the grandpa Al Ho why trade young and keep old why, he slow.

[@toyota420xp]

They should have got rid of piss poor Al Horford what did you make like Five Points a game is that and five rebounds

[@GreenKornet]

I love holiday and the moves brad made but y'all gotta stop shitting on smart lol

[@Steeezzzzz]

Lucky jrue wanted to come here ? Hes not James Harden.If they didnt accommodate dame what makes u think they would jrue? Also rob played more than 60 games once. We played more games without him than with. He is replaceable, preferably with someone thts not injury prone. We couldn’t rely on kp AND him

[@judahtunes2245]

Stop disrespecting Marcus Smart... dude didnt have an ego..

[@juliusrickles]

We are loaded so players don't mind Boston

[@SonnyOnTheSticks]

They gone pick up Dwight Howard

[@MillzSzn]

this guy must have not watched jrue play in the playoffs these last three yrs 1 yr his offense was C- his defense was A+ cant even front 2 yr offense was bad and he defense was slipping 3 yr offense and defense was atrocious too many playoff game on the road he went 4-17, 4-22, 3-18 etc just kept hoisting bricks he shoots 3s 1-7, 0-6, 2-9

[@celticsfan303]

Felger is such a homer....and I don't mean a Celtics homer, I mean a Bucks homer. Listening to this guy talk about the Packers when the Pats played there in the preseason was awful, but this is worse. Dude, we get it, you're from WI. But understand where you're working now, and if you don't like it, I'm sure you could get a job with WGBA as their sports guy

[@ADAMC312]

Who’s this Cerrone guy?? lol he thinks the Celtics are thin but the suns are loaded?? lol

[@youtubeconnollyfamily]

Good luck stopping the Celtics this season. Holy crap.

[@pmicozzi]

If it ain’t broke you don’t fix it. They were there in 21-22. Instead of changing the team that went to the finals…they should have fired the woman that had sex with the coach and kept the coach. Joe Mazzula is as clueless as Joe Biden. The team did not need to change, instead they could have improved within themselves. The leadership is what needs a shakeup. In the end both the bucks and the celts are just pushing it around… As for Giannis, who I thought had character, he should be great full that he even has a chip, and he should be looking in the mirror after that laughable loss to the Heat.

[@stanleybowser3274]

Yes 😡

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

It is another example of Joe Mazzulla's obsession with the 3 pointer

[@ask7554]

Jrue plays a lot of iso ball and is slow in making PG decisions. Boston is a faster team than he was used to playing for. He was too slow for Giannis - it was always a point of frustration and Giannis had to demand the ball. Jrue is also ball dominant - I wonder how that will work with Tatum & Jaylen who also like to run the offense, especially now that Smart is gone. There's nobody there to give them leadership and keep them in line. Boston and their fans are just looking at the numbers on the paper...chemistry is going to be big issue.

[@dblstndrd526]

They just added a champion in Holiday, the only player on the roster with a ring. He's going to shine with the celtics.

[@satvikparepalli1918]

@ask7554 I cannot agree with you more. People think celtics beating bucks just looking on paper. People are forgetting about depth, chemistry, and injury prone players like KP and Al Horford. Amazing take man 🎉👍👏🏼

[@TerranceHandy]

Whoever dude is he has No idea what he's taking about 😂, needs to shut up and sit back and get your popcorn ready.."don't know if he fits with the Bucks 😂...

[@tyrisanders]

Come on Boston go for Boogie or Dwight

[@toyota420xp]

I hate this trade and the Marcus Smart fight I think they got worse

[@mace2gorc872]

They should have kept Udoka. Period.

[@RomeoBachatero]

Boston y'all really f** ked urselves Grats on trading ur Defensive anchor Williams 👌

[@Handle1due83x]

Jrue is extremely good but he's old. 😢

[@johns9150]

Porzingas will not be a good defender, I watched him try to guard Giannis, he is terrible.

[@gregheghinian8085]

Felger is just awful

[@wwjessed420]

I think felger has fallen off. He’s like 100, trade him for someone who isn’t as ego driven. I’m so tired of listening to him. He’s like grant williams, never shuts up and says stupid ish

[@ericlarson7556]

C's are talented enough to get away with it and now need to be smart enough to show the league how to get away with four all stars in 1-4 positions with a weak 5.