Are cheap radios slower?? $100 vs $600

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Ryan Harris

Ryan Harris

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@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
What radio do you guys prefer?
@hunterking5514
@hunterking5514 3 жыл бұрын
DX6R
@RCfanAddict
@RCfanAddict 3 жыл бұрын
I want that white ko propo
@muazafzal3349
@muazafzal3349 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I have a pretty cheap radio called the dumborc and its really good! So I think it all depends on the person. Go expensive and spend more to get a lot of features. Go cheap and you can still get something pretty nice but with less features
@Markus_H3
@Markus_H3 3 жыл бұрын
Graupne X8E
@K-Anator
@K-Anator 3 жыл бұрын
I use a twin stick Futaba Attack III (FP-T2V) 75MhZ FM radio from the 90s. :D
@UWMitch
@UWMitch 3 жыл бұрын
Great info - in some hobbies people (including myself) like to chase gear when really the best money spent is on tires and time at the track. This was a great experiment to demonstrate that.
@colestaples2010
@colestaples2010 Жыл бұрын
Time at the track, that’s a dream that never comes true. Every time I try something is broken
@palmer_fabrication_
@palmer_fabrication_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 70 dollar flysky GT5 radio. Super smooth and very comfortable. Its kind of funny to drive a $3000 car with a $70 radio but it works great.
@mickfitz76
@mickfitz76 3 жыл бұрын
I use the GT3 and it's great. 30 bucks all in. I run boats and cars and even an RC surfer in big surf easily 200 metres off shore and never an issue.
@extec101
@extec101 2 жыл бұрын
going from a vintage hitec lynx 27mhz radio to a flysky gt6 that is my improvment. well something more pricy might be better during a race but that lynx radio got me to 9th in scandinavia cup 1:10ic 200mm as a rookie with at that point old mugen mtx2 that got a broken front drive during practice two days before race day (only rwd car in that race). as i saw it i rather race a broken car and take a last place before doing a dnf.
@thelifeurbancorporate8246
@thelifeurbancorporate8246 2 жыл бұрын
The flysky gt5 was my first purchased transmitter and I loved it and still think that it's great in comparison to any transmitter feel, response, and features. On the other hand I picked up a (orange) edition DX5C smart transmitter and its been just as good with slightly better range. Both are hundreds cheaper, but gives the same results it comes down to ones thing. What's your preference and how freely do you spend money.
@ueigerchaves5726
@ueigerchaves5726 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelifeurbancorporate8246 you need to try Nb4..
@nickvledder
@nickvledder 2 жыл бұрын
And the UserInterface of FlySky is very comfortable. I would trust myself in competition-circumstances to do some changes on EndPoints, Exponential, etc. with a FlySky radio.
@davescommonplacebook9374
@davescommonplacebook9374 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so good that your lap times are within 1/100's of a second of each other.... Pretty impressive.
@highlandcrawler
@highlandcrawler 3 жыл бұрын
Speaks a lot to the spektrum. To see a pro driver pick it up and with no time to get used to it immediately improve their times over their radio they have previous comfort with. Not what i expected the outcome to be for sure.
@75Chopin
@75Chopin 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, may be getting that spektrum!
@nathanplant7815
@nathanplant7815 2 жыл бұрын
yeah its not like he was using a 10 year old radio before he tried the spektrum...... youd hope it was better
@bills6055
@bills6055 3 жыл бұрын
A discussion as old as time. You're dad probably had the same discussions with friends about using a Futaba Magnum Junior vs Futaba Magnum PCM. I know I did.
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
I remember asking for a PCM because it looked cool and he said it wouldn't make me any faster! Still holds true today!
@Smokeyr67
@Smokeyr67 3 жыл бұрын
I still have both hiding in the back of a wardrobe somewhere😁
@tisaconundrum
@tisaconundrum 3 жыл бұрын
It's not always the tool, sometimes it's who is behind the tool.
@chaddthompson
@chaddthompson 2 жыл бұрын
So the Tool behind the Tool matters? :O)
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts Жыл бұрын
@@chaddthompson brilliant, that made me laugh so hard ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade 8 ай бұрын
it's almost Always who is behind the tool.
@CleeshoeArt
@CleeshoeArt 7 ай бұрын
True.lol
@SuperCheesechip
@SuperCheesechip 3 жыл бұрын
The DX5 actually has a little screw under the wheel to adjust spring tension!!! So you can fix that issue that yall were talking about, I also feel if you dove deep into the dx5 to mess with all the settings ypu could get it to your liking!! I love mine and definitely respect the sanwa radios! Just can't justify that price tag just yet!! 😁😁😁
@DirtSailor5
@DirtSailor5 3 жыл бұрын
The only difference are that the few things that can't easily change: you can add weight but you can't really take it away, the dropped wheel position and back-lit screen. Frame rate, wheel tension, and sensitivity can all that can be changed. If you actually change the settings you might find the 2 have damn near identical functionality. At 16:14 Kenny's avg was better and 19:48 Ryan was all around better with the DX. Just shows that the most expensive isnt always the clear cut best. Peer pressure and the wants are bigger reasons to upgrade over necessity. These guys unscientificly showed improvement with a "lesser" transmitter that wasn't dialed in.
@HoosierRC
@HoosierRC 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I love my cheap Futaba 3PV
@LFR327
@LFR327 3 жыл бұрын
The dx5c was out of the box stock setting... you also have to look at that your guys radios have been turn to ur car and drive style
@MrPhilbautista
@MrPhilbautista 3 жыл бұрын
But they already said that getting a more expensive radio wasn't that important so how does this change things? If anything, it just validates their point.
@tristar3005
@tristar3005 Жыл бұрын
I still haven't been given a solid reason to upgrade from my Flysky GT3. Its plenty accurate, has the settings I care about and its certainly not a limiting factor in my lap times. I don't think my driving ability will ever reach a point where this transmitter is what's hindering my lap times. Also receivers are $10 so I use it for both my race buggies and my 1/18 crawler.
@TheRoadTaken
@TheRoadTaken 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU many times over for doing this demonstration. Looking at getting back into the hobby after a 20+ year hiatus and trying to decide on a radio and budgets and what not.. This really eased my mind and helped me tremendously.
@NikkiNexo777
@NikkiNexo777 3 жыл бұрын
When I did race, I used the spektrum DX4C. I also have a futaba 4PLS that I tried for a while. I went back to the spektrum. You can tweak the steering and throttle expo in the spektrum To your driving style. The DX4C is a great radio And I never had any problems with it..
@lawnmowerdave
@lawnmowerdave 3 жыл бұрын
As a racer that last week finally upgraded to a proper Santa m12rs, I should be able to chime in on this. I had a fly sky fsgt3b that I bought 5 years ago. I lipo converted it and at one point, had 9 running models on the remote. I was always made fun of, until other racers realized I was faster with my remote that costs less than a receiver for a high end remote. No, it does not have all the bells and whistles, but it got the job done. To me, the sanwa feels like it has more sensitive inputs. The servos move exactly how your wheel does, versus the fly sky where it “numbs” the inputs. I think the remote is definitely important in high end racing, but if you club race or just want to run on a budget, you don’t need to spend 400 dollars.
@tisaconundrum
@tisaconundrum 3 жыл бұрын
Dang! You got a Santa Radio! I'm jealous
@coldzea4259
@coldzea4259 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it comes down to how far you want to take your race skills...I'm a pipe welder, so from a different perspective I can only achieve my best welds that keep expanding with better gear and greater options to push my limits...not to say I cant achieve greatness with bare minimal basics, but the new gear pushes you to achieve a much higher level and discover out of the box levels never thought possible. Ingenuity isn't a bad thing. That's what made these cars evolve thru ghost ed years.
@sto1vall
@sto1vall 3 жыл бұрын
Basically you’re buying features and ability to switch settings for different cars but maintain the same radio. Just like everything else, features drive the cost not the abilities.
@thercracer1717
@thercracer1717 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t raced my 4wd buggy since September last year because it’s been broken so anytime I see a 4wd video I get happy
@AlexorNah
@AlexorNah 3 жыл бұрын
the radio that’s slower is the one you aren’t used to. people seeming to think they need the latest and greatest of everything usually suck in my experience 😂
@robertturnip7850
@robertturnip7850 3 жыл бұрын
Then how do you explain getting better average laps on the radio he wasn't used to?
@surfside75
@surfside75 3 жыл бұрын
👍😂🤣🍻
@Synic08
@Synic08 8 ай бұрын
…track time….
@strech5412
@strech5412 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Futaba 3PV instead of the 7PX. You confirmed my wisdom! Thanks again.
@doughaning8982
@doughaning8982 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a comparison between the $200 true racing tuned motor and a cheap $75 knock-off brand.
@brettfreeman5559
@brettfreeman5559 3 жыл бұрын
This I'd like to see as well
@DirtConcept
@DirtConcept 3 жыл бұрын
There’s maybe a .1 second per lap difference, it’s very marginal. But if you race at highest level that 0.1 matters. Not sure if it’s worth making an entire video over. Motor analyzers will show you with numbers what the difference is. Reality is you might see 1-3% more power from a $200 motor.
@wasimiqbal3719
@wasimiqbal3719 3 жыл бұрын
I would like the see the difference of a trinity of the shelf motor compared to a Trinity plus motor. It’s almost double the price.
@christophersharpless3223
@christophersharpless3223 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the higher end will have more efficiency equalling to longer run times
@neontetra1000
@neontetra1000 3 жыл бұрын
The “true” racing motors are the “knock off” brand with a new sticker applied and a 3x increase in price. Look at reedy for a prime example. The expensive ones are the true knock offs.
@THEDnARACER
@THEDnARACER 3 жыл бұрын
I learned on a dx3r pro and absolutely loved it. At DNC this year 20 minutes before my main it decided to not bind for like 5 minutes even when rebinding. Went home that weekend and bought an m17 just so I could have confidence with it. I now absolutely love the M17. It’s so freaking nice! I still don’t know how to use all the stuff on it though, I really need to study it
@aaronsalais3477
@aaronsalais3477 3 жыл бұрын
I Have a Sanwa MTS I absolutely love the MTS is a Mid tier radio. My MTS which came with a antennaless receiver WHICH I put in my EB410.2. I picked up a MX6 for my son.
@erichill5328
@erichill5328 2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to get back into racing on a budget. Thank you very much for making this video and doing the testing. Two thumbs up 👍🏻👍🏻
@rcracer3235
@rcracer3235 3 жыл бұрын
when you get into the higher end radios you gain adjustments that could make you faster like the ability to speed up or slow down the steering and throttle curve, fine tuning your braking.
@gourobkundu2173
@gourobkundu2173 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff. Most basher guys use the Spektrum DX5C. Even i do
@scottykify
@scottykify 3 жыл бұрын
I've won against some pretty fast dirt oval racers here in Iowa and I use that same DX5c radio! Lol. There is a good amount of adjustments on that radio and you can control DR, throttle throw, and brake throw with your thumb.. I love that radio, but then again I'm just used to it
@truckerk
@truckerk 3 жыл бұрын
I like the DX5C. Using it going on 2 years. My dislikes are minimal. 1: can't move the wheel up or down, but if you are used to it it's fine. 2: the foam comes off the wheel. Had to glue it so it wouldn't just spin. 3: Can't see screen on the stand. No back lighting. Knowing not what a fancy radio has. I'm pretty happy with it. Oh lastly have to use AA batteries. I think there is battery pack upgrade to that radio, but I'd save the money for another radio at some point. Thanks that's my 2 cents.
@myrclife4374
@myrclife4374 3 жыл бұрын
I have the DX5C and I’ve only been into racing for about 4 months. About 90% of the time I can make it to the A main and finish 4th or 5th. There is only one thing I didn’t like out of the box and that was the grip needed to be glued to the wheel. I was able to pick mine up before the prices went up for $100. Great entry level radio for sure.
@edwinwx260
@edwinwx260 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the dx5c for a few years and switched to the MTS this year and it felt like it has so much more control over the car and it feels more connected with the car with a significantly shorter response time
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
Developing that feel over time is so important!
@djanubi
@djanubi Жыл бұрын
For those who wonder it's not about lap times but smoothness, accurate driving, repeatability ! Cheap radios won't give you that ! Even the Mt 44 that I have is not a good radio compared to M12 for example ! Buy good radio and servo and a cheaper car, you will be happier than the opposite ! Also comes down to the driver, if you are happy with a mx-6 you don't need a better radio !
@HarryLeach
@HarryLeach 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late, but this a pretty good comparison video. I was using a DX5pro for the last year or so, and won an M17 at the Roar Carpet Nats, so I switched over to that. I didn't feel like the DX5pro was keeping me back, but "feel" is a hard thing to quantify, and feel was the biggest difference in changing radios for me. With the DX5pro, I could turn fast laps, but if there was a crash, I never could definitively tell if it was me or the car. My wife also races, and she doesn't notice anything with the radio, but I'm also only watching her car to tune the car, so she keeps getting quicker. For me, I have to watch my own cars, nobody else is doing it, and with the M17, I have no doubts which car behavior is because of me, and which is because of setup, so overall I've gotten faster. Equal setup, the more expensive radio hasn't made me faster, but eliminating that question mark has made me faster overall. At the end of the day, a radio is only going to make you faster in the right situations, otherwise, radios today are really good, regardless of brand.
@rclover828
@rclover828 3 жыл бұрын
More expensive will not make you faster, it all depends on preference and skill level. Some radios just feels better in our hands. The Kyosho RTR radios are possiblity the best RTRs out there
@luckyM9963
@luckyM9963 3 жыл бұрын
You both found that the tension of the wheel was a bit tight. I am actually very surprised that neither of you mentioned that the tension can be adjusted. I don't own that transmitter but I did played with it in the past and it can easily win races.
@christopherkouri2317
@christopherkouri2317 10 ай бұрын
Kenny was flying! Cheaper radio definitely looked a lil "twitchier". Great vid. Thank you!
@burhan999
@burhan999 3 жыл бұрын
excellent driving skills
@yohbany305
@yohbany305 3 жыл бұрын
I use Futaba 7pxr because i drive lefty so it's the only reason i'll spend that much. All the setting option are great but the only thing that really help me is the fact that can hold my remote correctly.
@Gazelle0078
@Gazelle0078 3 жыл бұрын
I have both radios. Dx5c for all my bashers and m17 for my race cars and my drag car. Both serve a different purpose and are a huge upgrade over stock radios
@williamnorthwest8537
@williamnorthwest8537 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison! I just switched from an old 4Pk to 7pxr. I love the new radio and my driving improved but I'm going to say it's a placebo effect lol. I was told I needed a new radio to be competitive and this clearly debunks that. Thanks!
@silentassassin1108
@silentassassin1108 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Sanwa mx6 and upgraded to a futaba 4pm. The futaba is night and day different. My lap times were easily a second or 2 faster with the 4pm. The mx6 just feels horrible.
@brettfreeman5559
@brettfreeman5559 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. The spectrum budget radios I feel are the best value for money radios on the market.
@scottrupp6067
@scottrupp6067 3 жыл бұрын
IF its got the features you need an you like it should be good for you, any radio cheap or high end your going to to have to get used to it either way. just run what you like an fits your budget.. cool vid Ryan...
@RyanRCRacing
@RyanRCRacing Жыл бұрын
You are a king for making this thank you. I have a Futaba 4PM and people are telling me the Sanwa M17 is a yyyyuuuugggee difference
@RickyD1968
@RickyD1968 3 жыл бұрын
He was just used to the other radio its all about adjustments that $100 dollar radio can do the same as the $600 with fewer options because there are all radios that are made from this planet earth.
@verpine3534
@verpine3534 4 ай бұрын
This was great!. It provides evidence that there is no reason (outside of options/features levels) for drivers to jump to an expensive radio system to attain strong racing results. Your suggestion to check with local hobby stores to test radios for comfort (ergonomics) is great.
@noname-yb5jt
@noname-yb5jt 2 жыл бұрын
Mod with a small 2s and the DX5C sheds some weight and feels much more comfortable in the hand. 2 years of hard use on mine and it is still going strong. Numerous times wind has blown it off the car onto pavement. Has all kinds of bumps and bruises, haha.
@wildcat650power
@wildcat650power 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you use the cheap transmitter for a long period of time it would become just as affective as the higher dollar transmitter. Only thing this proved imo is a newly opened transmitter is going to feel diffrent than the one you are accustomed to and as a result until you are used to it, its going to give you slower lap times.
@tomsgtab
@tomsgtab Жыл бұрын
They both got faster times with the DX5c
@tylerbates8198
@tylerbates8198 2 жыл бұрын
Loved Shaun’s “ Adios” at the end :)
@robthemouthmillan301
@robthemouthmillan301 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan your lacking on vids mis your videos can’t wait for the next one buddy great job!!
@vigilante351
@vigilante351 3 жыл бұрын
Im no major pro - but ive won quite a few A-Mains, plus end of year championships at our club with Futaba 3GR sticks driving Yokomo BMAXs! It all to do with how comfortable you are with whatever you use. I bought a Futaba 4PK wheel just to see if i was missing out on things - i had it 3 months, and just didnt feel comfortable with it. Maybe i needed to give it a bit more time.
@jackdurden466
@jackdurden466 3 жыл бұрын
When he said it feels different, of course it does! As far as I’ve ever learned, the only difference in the radio is what features you want/need to have. The rest is on you. I’ve actually never considered any radio truly “better” in terms of performance over another. Signal strength, sure. But actually driving, no. Great video and thanks for it!!
@Acompony
@Acompony 7 ай бұрын
Those 10laps are pretty consistent ngl!! That’s how I feel when I race in my SIM RACING
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts 3 жыл бұрын
A poor crafts person blames their tools, my 1st radio was 30 bucks and didn't upgrade until I needed to. Practice is key. Great VT.
@christophermontalvo9013
@christophermontalvo9013 Жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right couldn’t have said it best it doesn’t matter how much you paid is what you have and what you do with it is what matters
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts Жыл бұрын
@@christophermontalvo9013 I have seen people using bog standard gear and hit the apex and drive smooth laps. If you take your time making sure you set up well, that's half the battle. Small adjustments and one thing at a time. I have a tamiya M05, I upgraded the shocks and made sure I measured them so they were all the same length, and slowly put the tension on the springs. That all I needed to do. Then spent time with how it would grip into the corners, to that sweet lift off over stear. I love that chassis and know it so well to point where I can feel the limit of grip.
@bluddywulf6796
@bluddywulf6796 Жыл бұрын
If it was flysky gt3 they were the fastest radios on the market. If so your point is moot. Nobody is running comp with a 30 dollar radio not even the poor kids lol.....I'm one of them.
@tristar3005
@tristar3005 Жыл бұрын
​@@bluddywulf6796At comp levels sure, but lots of people aren't racing at a high level. At a club level I can place well using a GT3. I just upgraded to a Futaba 4PM+ however, but the radio isn't taking half a second off my laps, it's more quality of life features.
@pothole0222
@pothole0222 Жыл бұрын
I have and have used a dx5c for years in my crawlers, and I love it. When I started drifting I bought a Futaba 4pm, and I love it as well. Now, I’m looking at the idea of starting racing for the first time in about 30 years, and this gave me a bit of assurance that I needed. Now I know I’ve already got a decent radio to use if/when I start racing, so thanks for that! I fully expected a big difference in lap times right out of the gate when switching radios. Not because I think the dx5c is an inferior product, but because both of you have a lot of experience with your current setups, and likely have the settings tweaked to perfection. What I think would be an interesting comparison would look something like this: take a box-stock RTR of your choice and run the same comparison. 10 laps with the RTR radio, then 10 laps with the dx5c, then 10 laps with your preferred radio. My personal opinion is that there will be a noticeable improvement from RTR to dx5c, and then a marginal difference between the dx5c and your preferred radio. And that reflects the lifecycle of a novice to a pro racer. As a novice, you’re just out having fun and learning the ins and outs. As an amateur, you make a few upgrades to your vehicle and your skill level. Once you go pro, you search everywhere and try anything looking for that last little bit of speed, that next fraction of a second. Just my 2 cents
@troypostie1252
@troypostie1252 3 жыл бұрын
1st time viewer. Nice deep analysis dude. Well done...more please
@Cirkyz
@Cirkyz 3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!!! I'm 3years into RC and just got my M17 2months ago. It does feel a lot nicer than my older radio but I'm not faster yet :-)
@johnstotler6237
@johnstotler6237 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the spring rate on the wheel is adjustable, too, so you could quickly get that extra snap out of the wheel.
@LUQWONG
@LUQWONG 3 жыл бұрын
Respect buddy for all the sincere and honest review
@bromossunstarranger8706
@bromossunstarranger8706 3 жыл бұрын
Great video superb transparency on the whole testing from start to finish Great information in this video and peace of mind for the beginner and the old guys coming back in the hobby from long breaks in driving
@TheEZGZ
@TheEZGZ 2 жыл бұрын
Muscle memory and what you get used to. A good experienced driver can adapt to anything. A newbie like me just needs to put in the track time. I'm amazed how fast you guys recover from a crash. That breaks your rythum and concentration cause your brain is still driving down the track and you have to re sync your muscle memory to that track.... I can't watch athletic sports on TV but I get into a trance when I watch you guys on the track. Your lucky you have friends at your skill level to go hit the track. I would have liked to see you both on the track with the same spectrum radio after you did the test just to see if the competition factor would quicken your lap times but that would me buying to of those test radio's. Thanks for sharing
@chrisdavid9626
@chrisdavid9626 2 жыл бұрын
I find consistency is way more important than lap times. I've raced with an m17 and a dx5c and felt more comfortable and more consistent with a m17. Now I have also used the mt44 and it was just as nice as the m17. Feel is definitely way important.
@frankranieri6816
@frankranieri6816 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Greetings from St. Petersburg.
@JYA-fc6rf
@JYA-fc6rf 15 күн бұрын
Nice shakedown. I’m a newbie and have the budget friendly dx5c. I was worried that by the end of vid I would be shopping for a new transmitter. Thanks for your honest review. 👌
@midnitejmpr9429
@midnitejmpr9429 3 жыл бұрын
If you ever do this I again I think it would be fun to try like a flysky gt3b so it goes down into super low budget radios coming in around 30-40 dollars
@mickfitz76
@mickfitz76 3 жыл бұрын
I use this radio. It's about 30 bucks. It's great and range is great. I use it on RC surfer and some Tamiya cars. Extra receivers are under 10 bucks and smallest I've seen. Great product.
@MrNater41
@MrNater41 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for a video like this. Its great info. Ill save the 600 bucks
@PopalongRC
@PopalongRC 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting content … Your cheap radio would be my expensive radio hahahah
@MX-CO
@MX-CO 6 ай бұрын
Same
@CoachD386
@CoachD386 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve used the dx5c since i got back in the hobby in 2018 and love it. I wish it had the throttle curve feature like the more expensive transmitters but I’ve learned how to do basically the same thing in the Exponential setting. 17sec lap time with that dx5c 🤔💪🏾
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
In all fairness the track was getting grippier as the night went on by a bit, so any speed I gained was most likely the track getting easier to drive on. Not much, but just a little.
@CoachD386
@CoachD386 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanHarrisRC I can agree tracks do pick up, but give the little radio that could it's props lol...
@jasonvicars226
@jasonvicars226 Жыл бұрын
After a 10+ year hiatus from racing I'm finally shaking the rust off! Since my Futaba 3PK was no longer supported from Spektrum, I picked up a DX5 Pro. Actually like it. Only thing I've noticed really is that instead of -5 expo, I have it set for -15 expo. That may change as I try to get back to par on just driving.😊 It has the drop down wheel adapter that I may throw on at some point to match my old 3PK! Great video!
@Petriefied0246
@Petriefied0246 3 жыл бұрын
I returned to the hobby after twenty years via FPV drone racing. I got myself a Sanwa MT44, but found it really limited. I ended up going to my FRSKY x-lite instead and I've found it much easier to use and set up. It's also considerably cheaper!
@samleary2733
@samleary2733 3 жыл бұрын
I raced with a guy that learned how to drive with his steering reversed so that’s how he drove. But he could seamlessly transition from his car and tx to anyone else’s and could still whip and do blistering laps. There is a minimum threshold for how good a transmitter needs to be before it is a limiting factor to how fast or consistent a driver can be. But basically any hobby grade transmitter now is pretty close to that or better.
@Peanut-gu8wl
@Peanut-gu8wl 3 жыл бұрын
Great video im busy desiding between 2 futaba radios one is a bit more expensive but has some more features than the cheaper one other than that they are basically the same. It was a tough decision but i think id rather save the money and get another battery or something
@MyRClive
@MyRClive 3 жыл бұрын
honestly that spektrum has a lot of features and a good model memory
@spuds7677
@spuds7677 2 жыл бұрын
So, I use to race a lot as a kid in the Gold Pan days and had a Futaba that I used. I had other radios but I liked it the best back then. I started to get back into racing and ended up with the Spektrum DC3C and I didn't have an issue with driving it. However, I moved up to the DX3-R Pro and I love that radio. I still use it for all of bashing cars, boats, 5th scales, speed run cars and such... Team Grid made a custom aluminum drop down for the steering and I absolutely can't live with out it. I see how going back to a high steering wheel can feel off. But, when you start with it, you don't notice it.
@TotalDohnut
@TotalDohnut 7 ай бұрын
I'm still running my old Radiopost TS-401 lol. Still works and have like 12 receivers for it. Its not the cost of the radio preventing me from replacing it, its the cost of all those receivers I would also need.
@klvAcosta
@klvAcosta 6 ай бұрын
Noob question, can’t you pair the receivers with the new transmitter?
@ShasOAunLa
@ShasOAunLa 3 жыл бұрын
i went from a spectrum DX5 Rugged to a T7PX and dont regret it. not from a faster time perspective or something, but the build quality, menu layout and handling and overall feel is so much better. also i got the dx5 rugged for a good price and sold well, too.. but i'm only racing since one year, definately fun!
@janicecopeland9083
@janicecopeland9083 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy with my $200.00 Flysky NB4.
@eyemastervideo
@eyemastervideo 2 жыл бұрын
I went from a Traxxas radio (which fit my hand very well) to a Futaba 3pv. I needed the functionality of a better radio. I had to modify it with 1/2 inch foam to make the grip bigger, and wrapped it with tennis racket tape. This is a great video to show you don't have to spend money to get better, just get what fits your needs and hands.
@MX-CO
@MX-CO 6 ай бұрын
What does the traxxas tqi radio do bad?
@eyemastervideo
@eyemastervideo 6 ай бұрын
@@MX-CO The main thing for me was steering trim. When you change models, say you have 3 rc cars, the steering trim for each will be different, and I didn't want to use a dial to change it everytime, I wanted it programmed. But many settings are like that, where you want to set everything for each car, and when you switch car, you don't want to have to dial everything again, you want them all preset and saved for each.
@Midwest-RC
@Midwest-RC 3 жыл бұрын
Kenny is fast at anything he drives! Good kid!
@cunlfoo
@cunlfoo 3 жыл бұрын
You should really teach people how to adjust their radio. I bet you could tune the Spektrum to work like the Sanwa.
@mikek6459
@mikek6459 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison. Thank you for the insight!
@tomyoung2519
@tomyoung2519 3 жыл бұрын
As a newer driver I actually started with a radio from my ProSC10 RTR. Definitely felt cheap but you have to start somewhere. The limited adjustments helped me focus on actually driving instead of tinkering with settings. I moved up to the DX5C and it gave me more as understanding of what each function did and the value of making those adjustments especially for off-road racing. I ended up starting to race on road and found for me that the spektrum didn’t fit as well for the change in discipline. I now use the futaba 4pm and it’s my go to radio. It’s a little more expensive than the spektrum but has a better overall feel and it shows in my lap times not because it’s more expensive but because I have better car control because I can feel how the car responds to the inputs from my hands. In my opinion comfort equals better performance in this aspect.
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
Feel is everything!
@bradleysproul5478
@bradleysproul5478 2 жыл бұрын
I can 100% say i improved pretty considerably going from a Futaba 4PLS ($200) to an M17 ($570). Faster, more responsive and overall just a smoother feeling remote. I will say this is a very FAST remote as in high sensitivity which I have always liked in all aspects.
@jeffsloane8628
@jeffsloane8628 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The Scientific method + double driver commentary was excellent!
@mechanicmike2858
@mechanicmike2858 3 жыл бұрын
The Dx5c is a great radio for the price point however when we were selling them we had a hard time getting them to cooperate with some models we finally figured them out my preferred radio is a spectrum dx4r it does great for what I need
@Mr_jz_12
@Mr_jz_12 3 жыл бұрын
not sure now. but spektrum used to be banned at a lot of tracks.
@robertritzman6094
@robertritzman6094 3 жыл бұрын
Most radios today the latency can be adjusted. Latency=feel mid to high end radios are all good it comes down to feel and bells and whistles. Great review Ryan love you your channel. Current hobbits past racer
@TeamAmbushCreations
@TeamAmbushCreations 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always man! I think my tobbies in the university mall has radios on display which hopefully there people can see how the radio feels. Keep it up man!
@Aro800
@Aro800 3 жыл бұрын
Just upgrade to KoPropo EX1 even though its a bit old it kills any entry and mid tier radios. Really improved my driving which I didn't expect.
@Aro800
@Aro800 3 жыл бұрын
Great video really enjoyed watching how you guys take the lines and jump.
@brmscalecustoms9788
@brmscalecustoms9788 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Ryan! Thank you for sharing this comparison. Very helpful.
@zachgriggs3759
@zachgriggs3759 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see ya Kenny and Shawn 🤙🏼 happy racing my friends
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
You should've been out there with us tbh
@zachgriggs3759
@zachgriggs3759 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanHarrisRC thanks brother 🤙🏼🙏
@hristoivanov9587
@hristoivanov9587 10 ай бұрын
the issue is not choosing the cheap radio or not, both of which are fine. I would make the same comparison with those who have an iPhone or a cheap phone, they both work
@RCWithAaron
@RCWithAaron 3 жыл бұрын
I Just bought an M17 from SS to replace my........... M8 ! lol I've been running it since 03ish? Talk about feel and loving a radio... So hard to let that go and move on. Obviously I didn't care about " modern tech" and it wasn't affecting the racing i was doing. I still / will forever Love that radio!!
@Macgyver46
@Macgyver46 3 жыл бұрын
I got the dx5 rugged and it's amazing how customizable it is. Not sure all the bugs are worked out of the firmware yet.
@Macgyver46
@Macgyver46 3 жыл бұрын
Just got word back and it's going in for warranty repair!
@foyjustice7212
@foyjustice7212 2 жыл бұрын
I did notice a difference when I went to a high end radio. Maybe its the wrong word to use. But there was more "resolution". I felt more connected. My lap times dropped and I was more consistent. I went from a base model Sanwa to a much better Sanwa model. Happy racing out there!
@foyjustice7212
@foyjustice7212 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that high end radios have a bit of traction / throttle control? And the lower end are just raw input. If thats the case that matters 2 ways. Maybe you need the lets call it TC. But if your just really good. Any radio will do.
@anthonylove6639
@anthonylove6639 Жыл бұрын
I have a few surface radios but my two premium models are a Sanwa MT-5 FH5/FH5U 4-Ch and a Futaba T4PM/Plus 4-Ch T-FHSS Bought The R334SBS-E Receiver separately because that receiver is basically the only one that’s compatible with the Super Response (SR) system. Unlike Sanwa MT5 which is more expensive with less features. Sanwa suggested that you need to have Digital Servos. Futaba T4PM doesn’t. But fortunately I do. But it should not be a requirement in my opinion.
@patchadams9837
@patchadams9837 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Ryan. It would be nice to see a further comparison with a digital screened (with EPA) but budget end (< $50) unit to show where the sweet spot is for newbies.
@jamarcus_OG
@jamarcus_OG 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Spektrum DX4C and I feel great with it. I've tried also a Sanwa MT-44 and a MT-S from two friends and I couldn't get the feel of what the car was doing. I've also let them try the DX4C and they both said they had difficulties with the trigger being too small and that braking was harder compared to the Sanwa's because of the longer range. I guess it's a subjective thing. The only way you can determine what's best for you is trying as many radios as possible.
@itspique
@itspique 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently switched from my Futaba 3PRKA (the entry level model) to a Flysky FS-GT5 on my car, so I’m nowhere near the league of 500-600 dollar radios. I do plan on racing soon and I was wondering if I needed a higher end transmitter. Watching this does make me feel a little better, knowing that my budget setup won’t be too far off the pace with the same driver.
@TKommando
@TKommando 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. I use a cheap $40 Flysky fs-gt3b in my B64. Has all the adjustability I want and need.
@mickfitz76
@mickfitz76 3 жыл бұрын
@@TKommando I use those also. Got 3 of them and use for cars and boats. Great radios never had an issue running boats 200 metres off shore. I start to lose sight of the boat before the range quits. Great radios.
@sixstar2067
@sixstar2067 3 жыл бұрын
Really even budget radios are really good nowadays. I have a $50 radio set that has response and range that absolutely blows away some of my friends super-expensive "race" setups from like 3ish years ago. That being said I do sacrifice a lot of adjustability in things like Expo and some other fine-tuning options. I don't use the $50 radio in my race build but I do use a slightly higher-end Rx/Tx setup from the same company. (Radiolink)
@kurtbenson6600
@kurtbenson6600 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hear a lot of guys trash talking the cheaper radios and I don't understand why, since I've used many different radios in just the last couple of years. In my opinion, it would be difficult to find an absolutely terrible hobby-grade radio nowadays.
@LonerSurfer
@LonerSurfer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah. My latest - the Spektrum DX5 Pro is way faster than any TX I’ve own before. I also have it for my motor on axle crawler that needs a physical 3 position switch to give me the 3 modes of dig. The old radios couldn’t do that. It isn’t just about speed. Sometimes you HAVE to buy the expensive radio for specialized RC vehicle projects. My trail truck has a 2 speed tranny with a shifter servo and a rear steering servo. The DX5 Pro handles the 4 channels needed. A less expensive (with less channels) radio - no 4WS/2 speed trail truck. And when it comes to my Team Associated DR10 drag racer - throttle reaction is QUICK (with the SR2100 racing receiver). And when you race, you’re also forced to think about a faster steering and throttling transmitter. It’s how you win the race. Inexpensive for the basher. Expensive for the experienced racer/builder who has all kinds of different RC rigs that bash AND race. And model memory! Lots of rigs dictate lots of model memory. I would think a radio for each model would be a pain in the ass. And inexpensive radios are short on memory. I have 4 rigs that I use the Spektrum on…so far
@bluecrabnitroracing4499
@bluecrabnitroracing4499 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you a comparison between cheaper servos and the million dollar servos that we all move up to eventually. Or or a comparison between cheap lipos and more quality pricey lipos. But I spend probably more on trying different servos than anything. Good video keep it up
@Dr.Feelgood
@Dr.Feelgood 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, Would love to see what you use for radio settings. Expo, feeling, D/r etc. i know it’s all personal preference and feel Bht you’re faster than I and I’m sure I can learn from your information!
@h.k.7768
@h.k.7768 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, at first sorry for my bad English, i am from Germany. I think about to buy in the beginning of the next Year to buy an RC car for the Racetrack. I try to collect much Information as possible. This Video is a great help, because the Guys here in Germany who make Videos like this dont drive on a Racetrack, they are only bashing. Seeing that not all parts have to cost a lot is good thing. I think your Videos are very helpful when you want to Start with the RC Hobby. Hope to see much Videos for a long Time. Wish you all the best in life and on the Racetrack.
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