Are cheap radios slower?? $100 vs $600

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@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
What radio do you guys prefer?
@hunterking5514
@hunterking5514 3 жыл бұрын
DX6R
@RCfanAddict
@RCfanAddict 3 жыл бұрын
I want that white ko propo
@muazafzal3349
@muazafzal3349 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I have a pretty cheap radio called the dumborc and its really good! So I think it all depends on the person. Go expensive and spend more to get a lot of features. Go cheap and you can still get something pretty nice but with less features
@Markus_H3
@Markus_H3 3 жыл бұрын
Graupne X8E
@K-Anator
@K-Anator 3 жыл бұрын
I use a twin stick Futaba Attack III (FP-T2V) 75MhZ FM radio from the 90s. :D
@davescommonplacebook9374
@davescommonplacebook9374 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so good that your lap times are within 1/100's of a second of each other.... Pretty impressive.
@highlandcrawler
@highlandcrawler 3 жыл бұрын
Speaks a lot to the spektrum. To see a pro driver pick it up and with no time to get used to it immediately improve their times over their radio they have previous comfort with. Not what i expected the outcome to be for sure.
@75Chopin
@75Chopin 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, may be getting that spektrum!
@nathanplant7815
@nathanplant7815 2 жыл бұрын
yeah its not like he was using a 10 year old radio before he tried the spektrum...... youd hope it was better
@AlexorNah
@AlexorNah 3 жыл бұрын
the radio that’s slower is the one you aren’t used to. people seeming to think they need the latest and greatest of everything usually suck in my experience 😂
@robertturnip7850
@robertturnip7850 3 жыл бұрын
Then how do you explain getting better average laps on the radio he wasn't used to?
@surfside75
@surfside75 3 жыл бұрын
👍😂🤣🍻
@Synic08
@Synic08 6 ай бұрын
…track time….
@SuperCheesechip
@SuperCheesechip 3 жыл бұрын
The DX5 actually has a little screw under the wheel to adjust spring tension!!! So you can fix that issue that yall were talking about, I also feel if you dove deep into the dx5 to mess with all the settings ypu could get it to your liking!! I love mine and definitely respect the sanwa radios! Just can't justify that price tag just yet!! 😁😁😁
@DirtSailor5
@DirtSailor5 3 жыл бұрын
The only difference are that the few things that can't easily change: you can add weight but you can't really take it away, the dropped wheel position and back-lit screen. Frame rate, wheel tension, and sensitivity can all that can be changed. If you actually change the settings you might find the 2 have damn near identical functionality. At 16:14 Kenny's avg was better and 19:48 Ryan was all around better with the DX. Just shows that the most expensive isnt always the clear cut best. Peer pressure and the wants are bigger reasons to upgrade over necessity. These guys unscientificly showed improvement with a "lesser" transmitter that wasn't dialed in.
@HoosierRC
@HoosierRC 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I love my cheap Futaba 3PV
@lawnmowerdave
@lawnmowerdave 3 жыл бұрын
As a racer that last week finally upgraded to a proper Santa m12rs, I should be able to chime in on this. I had a fly sky fsgt3b that I bought 5 years ago. I lipo converted it and at one point, had 9 running models on the remote. I was always made fun of, until other racers realized I was faster with my remote that costs less than a receiver for a high end remote. No, it does not have all the bells and whistles, but it got the job done. To me, the sanwa feels like it has more sensitive inputs. The servos move exactly how your wheel does, versus the fly sky where it “numbs” the inputs. I think the remote is definitely important in high end racing, but if you club race or just want to run on a budget, you don’t need to spend 400 dollars.
@nicholasfinch4087
@nicholasfinch4087 3 жыл бұрын
Dang! You got a Santa Radio! I'm jealous
@coldzea4259
@coldzea4259 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it comes down to how far you want to take your race skills...I'm a pipe welder, so from a different perspective I can only achieve my best welds that keep expanding with better gear and greater options to push my limits...not to say I cant achieve greatness with bare minimal basics, but the new gear pushes you to achieve a much higher level and discover out of the box levels never thought possible. Ingenuity isn't a bad thing. That's what made these cars evolve thru ghost ed years.
@NikkiNexo777
@NikkiNexo777 3 жыл бұрын
When I did race, I used the spektrum DX4C. I also have a futaba 4PLS that I tried for a while. I went back to the spektrum. You can tweak the steering and throttle expo in the spektrum To your driving style. The DX4C is a great radio And I never had any problems with it..
@strech5412
@strech5412 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Futaba 3PV instead of the 7PX. You confirmed my wisdom! Thanks again.
@thercracer1717
@thercracer1717 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t raced my 4wd buggy since September last year because it’s been broken so anytime I see a 4wd video I get happy
@doughaning8982
@doughaning8982 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a comparison between the $200 true racing tuned motor and a cheap $75 knock-off brand.
@brettfreeman5559
@brettfreeman5559 3 жыл бұрын
This I'd like to see as well
@DirtConcept
@DirtConcept 3 жыл бұрын
There’s maybe a .1 second per lap difference, it’s very marginal. But if you race at highest level that 0.1 matters. Not sure if it’s worth making an entire video over. Motor analyzers will show you with numbers what the difference is. Reality is you might see 1-3% more power from a $200 motor.
@wasimiqbal3719
@wasimiqbal3719 3 жыл бұрын
I would like the see the difference of a trinity of the shelf motor compared to a Trinity plus motor. It’s almost double the price.
@christophersharpless3223
@christophersharpless3223 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the higher end will have more efficiency equalling to longer run times
@neontetra1000
@neontetra1000 3 жыл бұрын
The “true” racing motors are the “knock off” brand with a new sticker applied and a 3x increase in price. Look at reedy for a prime example. The expensive ones are the true knock offs.
@MrNater41
@MrNater41 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for a video like this. Its great info. Ill save the 600 bucks
@christopherkouri2317
@christopherkouri2317 8 ай бұрын
Kenny was flying! Cheaper radio definitely looked a lil "twitchier". Great vid. Thank you!
@gourobkundu2173
@gourobkundu2173 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff. Most basher guys use the Spektrum DX5C. Even i do
@THEDnARACER
@THEDnARACER 3 жыл бұрын
I learned on a dx3r pro and absolutely loved it. At DNC this year 20 minutes before my main it decided to not bind for like 5 minutes even when rebinding. Went home that weekend and bought an m17 just so I could have confidence with it. I now absolutely love the M17. It’s so freaking nice! I still don’t know how to use all the stuff on it though, I really need to study it
@HarryLeach
@HarryLeach 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late, but this a pretty good comparison video. I was using a DX5pro for the last year or so, and won an M17 at the Roar Carpet Nats, so I switched over to that. I didn't feel like the DX5pro was keeping me back, but "feel" is a hard thing to quantify, and feel was the biggest difference in changing radios for me. With the DX5pro, I could turn fast laps, but if there was a crash, I never could definitively tell if it was me or the car. My wife also races, and she doesn't notice anything with the radio, but I'm also only watching her car to tune the car, so she keeps getting quicker. For me, I have to watch my own cars, nobody else is doing it, and with the M17, I have no doubts which car behavior is because of me, and which is because of setup, so overall I've gotten faster. Equal setup, the more expensive radio hasn't made me faster, but eliminating that question mark has made me faster overall. At the end of the day, a radio is only going to make you faster in the right situations, otherwise, radios today are really good, regardless of brand.
@Acompony
@Acompony 5 ай бұрын
Those 10laps are pretty consistent ngl!! That’s how I feel when I race in my SIM RACING
@williamnorthwest8537
@williamnorthwest8537 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison! I just switched from an old 4Pk to 7pxr. I love the new radio and my driving improved but I'm going to say it's a placebo effect lol. I was told I needed a new radio to be competitive and this clearly debunks that. Thanks!
@silentassassin1108
@silentassassin1108 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Sanwa mx6 and upgraded to a futaba 4pm. The futaba is night and day different. My lap times were easily a second or 2 faster with the 4pm. The mx6 just feels horrible.
@sto1vall
@sto1vall 3 жыл бұрын
Basically you’re buying features and ability to switch settings for different cars but maintain the same radio. Just like everything else, features drive the cost not the abilities.
@myrclife4374
@myrclife4374 3 жыл бұрын
I have the DX5C and I’ve only been into racing for about 4 months. About 90% of the time I can make it to the A main and finish 4th or 5th. There is only one thing I didn’t like out of the box and that was the grip needed to be glued to the wheel. I was able to pick mine up before the prices went up for $100. Great entry level radio for sure.
@verpine3534
@verpine3534 2 ай бұрын
This was great!. It provides evidence that there is no reason (outside of options/features levels) for drivers to jump to an expensive radio system to attain strong racing results. Your suggestion to check with local hobby stores to test radios for comfort (ergonomics) is great.
@scottykify
@scottykify 3 жыл бұрын
I've won against some pretty fast dirt oval racers here in Iowa and I use that same DX5c radio! Lol. There is a good amount of adjustments on that radio and you can control DR, throttle throw, and brake throw with your thumb.. I love that radio, but then again I'm just used to it
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts 3 жыл бұрын
A poor crafts person blames their tools, my 1st radio was 30 bucks and didn't upgrade until I needed to. Practice is key. Great VT.
@christophermontalvo9013
@christophermontalvo9013 Жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right couldn’t have said it best it doesn’t matter how much you paid is what you have and what you do with it is what matters
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts Жыл бұрын
@@christophermontalvo9013 I have seen people using bog standard gear and hit the apex and drive smooth laps. If you take your time making sure you set up well, that's half the battle. Small adjustments and one thing at a time. I have a tamiya M05, I upgraded the shocks and made sure I measured them so they were all the same length, and slowly put the tension on the springs. That all I needed to do. Then spent time with how it would grip into the corners, to that sweet lift off over stear. I love that chassis and know it so well to point where I can feel the limit of grip.
@bluddywulf6796
@bluddywulf6796 Жыл бұрын
If it was flysky gt3 they were the fastest radios on the market. If so your point is moot. Nobody is running comp with a 30 dollar radio not even the poor kids lol.....I'm one of them.
@tristar3005
@tristar3005 Жыл бұрын
​@@bluddywulf6796At comp levels sure, but lots of people aren't racing at a high level. At a club level I can place well using a GT3. I just upgraded to a Futaba 4PM+ however, but the radio isn't taking half a second off my laps, it's more quality of life features.
@pothole0222
@pothole0222 Жыл бұрын
I have and have used a dx5c for years in my crawlers, and I love it. When I started drifting I bought a Futaba 4pm, and I love it as well. Now, I’m looking at the idea of starting racing for the first time in about 30 years, and this gave me a bit of assurance that I needed. Now I know I’ve already got a decent radio to use if/when I start racing, so thanks for that! I fully expected a big difference in lap times right out of the gate when switching radios. Not because I think the dx5c is an inferior product, but because both of you have a lot of experience with your current setups, and likely have the settings tweaked to perfection. What I think would be an interesting comparison would look something like this: take a box-stock RTR of your choice and run the same comparison. 10 laps with the RTR radio, then 10 laps with the dx5c, then 10 laps with your preferred radio. My personal opinion is that there will be a noticeable improvement from RTR to dx5c, and then a marginal difference between the dx5c and your preferred radio. And that reflects the lifecycle of a novice to a pro racer. As a novice, you’re just out having fun and learning the ins and outs. As an amateur, you make a few upgrades to your vehicle and your skill level. Once you go pro, you search everywhere and try anything looking for that last little bit of speed, that next fraction of a second. Just my 2 cents
@yohbany305
@yohbany305 3 жыл бұрын
I use Futaba 7pxr because i drive lefty so it's the only reason i'll spend that much. All the setting option are great but the only thing that really help me is the fact that can hold my remote correctly.
@scottrupp6067
@scottrupp6067 3 жыл бұрын
IF its got the features you need an you like it should be good for you, any radio cheap or high end your going to to have to get used to it either way. just run what you like an fits your budget.. cool vid Ryan...
@palmer_fabrication_
@palmer_fabrication_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 70 dollar flysky GT5 radio. Super smooth and very comfortable. Its kind of funny to drive a $3000 car with a $70 radio but it works great.
@mickfitz76
@mickfitz76 3 жыл бұрын
I use the GT3 and it's great. 30 bucks all in. I run boats and cars and even an RC surfer in big surf easily 200 metres off shore and never an issue.
@extec101
@extec101 2 жыл бұрын
going from a vintage hitec lynx 27mhz radio to a flysky gt6 that is my improvment. well something more pricy might be better during a race but that lynx radio got me to 9th in scandinavia cup 1:10ic 200mm as a rookie with at that point old mugen mtx2 that got a broken front drive during practice two days before race day (only rwd car in that race). as i saw it i rather race a broken car and take a last place before doing a dnf.
@thelifeurbancorporate8246
@thelifeurbancorporate8246 2 жыл бұрын
The flysky gt5 was my first purchased transmitter and I loved it and still think that it's great in comparison to any transmitter feel, response, and features. On the other hand I picked up a (orange) edition DX5C smart transmitter and its been just as good with slightly better range. Both are hundreds cheaper, but gives the same results it comes down to ones thing. What's your preference and how freely do you spend money.
@ueigerchaves5726
@ueigerchaves5726 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelifeurbancorporate8246 you need to try Nb4..
@nickvledder
@nickvledder Жыл бұрын
And the UserInterface of FlySky is very comfortable. I would trust myself in competition-circumstances to do some changes on EndPoints, Exponential, etc. with a FlySky radio.
@jackdurden466
@jackdurden466 3 жыл бұрын
When he said it feels different, of course it does! As far as I’ve ever learned, the only difference in the radio is what features you want/need to have. The rest is on you. I’ve actually never considered any radio truly “better” in terms of performance over another. Signal strength, sure. But actually driving, no. Great video and thanks for it!!
@MyRClive
@MyRClive 3 жыл бұрын
honestly that spektrum has a lot of features and a good model memory
@LUQWONG
@LUQWONG 3 жыл бұрын
Respect buddy for all the sincere and honest review
@cunlfoo
@cunlfoo 3 жыл бұрын
You should really teach people how to adjust their radio. I bet you could tune the Spektrum to work like the Sanwa.
@RyanRCRacing
@RyanRCRacing Жыл бұрын
You are a king for making this thank you. I have a Futaba 4PM and people are telling me the Sanwa M17 is a yyyyuuuugggee difference
@mikek6459
@mikek6459 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison. Thank you for the insight!
@johnstotler6237
@johnstotler6237 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the spring rate on the wheel is adjustable, too, so you could quickly get that extra snap out of the wheel.
@Peanut-gu8wl
@Peanut-gu8wl 3 жыл бұрын
Great video im busy desiding between 2 futaba radios one is a bit more expensive but has some more features than the cheaper one other than that they are basically the same. It was a tough decision but i think id rather save the money and get another battery or something
@chrisdavid9626
@chrisdavid9626 2 жыл бұрын
I find consistency is way more important than lap times. I've raced with an m17 and a dx5c and felt more comfortable and more consistent with a m17. Now I have also used the mt44 and it was just as nice as the m17. Feel is definitely way important.
@Petriefied0246
@Petriefied0246 2 жыл бұрын
I returned to the hobby after twenty years via FPV drone racing. I got myself a Sanwa MT44, but found it really limited. I ended up going to my FRSKY x-lite instead and I've found it much easier to use and set up. It's also considerably cheaper!
@RickyD1968
@RickyD1968 3 жыл бұрын
He was just used to the other radio its all about adjustments that $100 dollar radio can do the same as the $600 with fewer options because there are all radios that are made from this planet earth.
@TheEZGZ
@TheEZGZ 2 жыл бұрын
Muscle memory and what you get used to. A good experienced driver can adapt to anything. A newbie like me just needs to put in the track time. I'm amazed how fast you guys recover from a crash. That breaks your rythum and concentration cause your brain is still driving down the track and you have to re sync your muscle memory to that track.... I can't watch athletic sports on TV but I get into a trance when I watch you guys on the track. Your lucky you have friends at your skill level to go hit the track. I would have liked to see you both on the track with the same spectrum radio after you did the test just to see if the competition factor would quicken your lap times but that would me buying to of those test radio's. Thanks for sharing
@bluecrabnitroracing4499
@bluecrabnitroracing4499 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you a comparison between cheaper servos and the million dollar servos that we all move up to eventually. Or or a comparison between cheap lipos and more quality pricey lipos. But I spend probably more on trying different servos than anything. Good video keep it up
@spuds7677
@spuds7677 2 жыл бұрын
So, I use to race a lot as a kid in the Gold Pan days and had a Futaba that I used. I had other radios but I liked it the best back then. I started to get back into racing and ended up with the Spektrum DC3C and I didn't have an issue with driving it. However, I moved up to the DX3-R Pro and I love that radio. I still use it for all of bashing cars, boats, 5th scales, speed run cars and such... Team Grid made a custom aluminum drop down for the steering and I absolutely can't live with out it. I see how going back to a high steering wheel can feel off. But, when you start with it, you don't notice it.
@TeamAmbushCreations
@TeamAmbushCreations 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always man! I think my tobbies in the university mall has radios on display which hopefully there people can see how the radio feels. Keep it up man!
@robertritzman6094
@robertritzman6094 3 жыл бұрын
Most radios today the latency can be adjusted. Latency=feel mid to high end radios are all good it comes down to feel and bells and whistles. Great review Ryan love you your channel. Current hobbits past racer
@riccardospinoglio4263
@riccardospinoglio4263 3 жыл бұрын
That's the video I was looking for!!
@wildcat650power
@wildcat650power 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you use the cheap transmitter for a long period of time it would become just as affective as the higher dollar transmitter. Only thing this proved imo is a newly opened transmitter is going to feel diffrent than the one you are accustomed to and as a result until you are used to it, its going to give you slower lap times.
@tomsgtab
@tomsgtab Жыл бұрын
They both got faster times with the DX5c
@tomyoung2519
@tomyoung2519 3 жыл бұрын
As a newer driver I actually started with a radio from my ProSC10 RTR. Definitely felt cheap but you have to start somewhere. The limited adjustments helped me focus on actually driving instead of tinkering with settings. I moved up to the DX5C and it gave me more as understanding of what each function did and the value of making those adjustments especially for off-road racing. I ended up starting to race on road and found for me that the spektrum didn’t fit as well for the change in discipline. I now use the futaba 4pm and it’s my go to radio. It’s a little more expensive than the spektrum but has a better overall feel and it shows in my lap times not because it’s more expensive but because I have better car control because I can feel how the car responds to the inputs from my hands. In my opinion comfort equals better performance in this aspect.
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
Feel is everything!
@patchadams9837
@patchadams9837 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Ryan. It would be nice to see a further comparison with a digital screened (with EPA) but budget end (< $50) unit to show where the sweet spot is for newbies.
@mechanicmike2858
@mechanicmike2858 3 жыл бұрын
The Dx5c is a great radio for the price point however when we were selling them we had a hard time getting them to cooperate with some models we finally figured them out my preferred radio is a spectrum dx4r it does great for what I need
@Mr_jz_12
@Mr_jz_12 3 жыл бұрын
not sure now. but spektrum used to be banned at a lot of tracks.
@ShasOAunLa
@ShasOAunLa 3 жыл бұрын
i went from a spectrum DX5 Rugged to a T7PX and dont regret it. not from a faster time perspective or something, but the build quality, menu layout and handling and overall feel is so much better. also i got the dx5 rugged for a good price and sold well, too.. but i'm only racing since one year, definately fun!
@burhan999
@burhan999 3 жыл бұрын
excellent driving skills
@Macgyver46
@Macgyver46 3 жыл бұрын
I got the dx5 rugged and it's amazing how customizable it is. Not sure all the bugs are worked out of the firmware yet.
@Macgyver46
@Macgyver46 3 жыл бұрын
Just got word back and it's going in for warranty repair!
@Aro800
@Aro800 3 жыл бұрын
Just upgrade to KoPropo EX1 even though its a bit old it kills any entry and mid tier radios. Really improved my driving which I didn't expect.
@TotalDohnut
@TotalDohnut 6 ай бұрын
I'm still running my old Radiopost TS-401 lol. Still works and have like 12 receivers for it. Its not the cost of the radio preventing me from replacing it, its the cost of all those receivers I would also need.
@klvAcosta
@klvAcosta 4 ай бұрын
Noob question, can’t you pair the receivers with the new transmitter?
@itspique
@itspique 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently switched from my Futaba 3PRKA (the entry level model) to a Flysky FS-GT5 on my car, so I’m nowhere near the league of 500-600 dollar radios. I do plan on racing soon and I was wondering if I needed a higher end transmitter. Watching this does make me feel a little better, knowing that my budget setup won’t be too far off the pace with the same driver.
@TKommando
@TKommando 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. I use a cheap $40 Flysky fs-gt3b in my B64. Has all the adjustability I want and need.
@mickfitz76
@mickfitz76 3 жыл бұрын
@@TKommando I use those also. Got 3 of them and use for cars and boats. Great radios never had an issue running boats 200 metres off shore. I start to lose sight of the boat before the range quits. Great radios.
@toocamcivic
@toocamcivic 3 жыл бұрын
Watched your last video on this…..I want to buy an m17 but I got fast guys and my LHS not talking me out of it, but saying I really don’t need to. Problem is, I’m really starting to hate my dx5pro, and all my servo’s are the 6240rx’s so I’m on the hook for tx, rx, and servos if I switch. I can tell you the 11ms frame rate vs the 5.5ms frame rate, I can tell the difference.
@samleary2733
@samleary2733 3 жыл бұрын
I raced with a guy that learned how to drive with his steering reversed so that’s how he drove. But he could seamlessly transition from his car and tx to anyone else’s and could still whip and do blistering laps. There is a minimum threshold for how good a transmitter needs to be before it is a limiting factor to how fast or consistent a driver can be. But basically any hobby grade transmitter now is pretty close to that or better.
@gs817
@gs817 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@eyemastervideo
@eyemastervideo 2 жыл бұрын
I went from a Traxxas radio (which fit my hand very well) to a Futaba 3pv. I needed the functionality of a better radio. I had to modify it with 1/2 inch foam to make the grip bigger, and wrapped it with tennis racket tape. This is a great video to show you don't have to spend money to get better, just get what fits your needs and hands.
@MX-CO
@MX-CO 4 ай бұрын
What does the traxxas tqi radio do bad?
@eyemastervideo
@eyemastervideo 4 ай бұрын
@@MX-CO The main thing for me was steering trim. When you change models, say you have 3 rc cars, the steering trim for each will be different, and I didn't want to use a dial to change it everytime, I wanted it programmed. But many settings are like that, where you want to set everything for each car, and when you switch car, you don't want to have to dial everything again, you want them all preset and saved for each.
@bradleysproul5478
@bradleysproul5478 2 жыл бұрын
I can 100% say i improved pretty considerably going from a Futaba 4PLS ($200) to an M17 ($570). Faster, more responsive and overall just a smoother feeling remote. I will say this is a very FAST remote as in high sensitivity which I have always liked in all aspects.
@jeffsloane8628
@jeffsloane8628 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The Scientific method + double driver commentary was excellent!
@rcjer6473
@rcjer6473 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video buddy...in my opinion the spectrum dx5c is perfect for bashing and yours is perfect for racing. But for people that want to go in between the 2 of them and have a nice radio for racing But not spend 600 would be the spectrum dx5pro. Your still my favorite channel keep up the great material.
@vivos71
@vivos71 3 жыл бұрын
Newer Spektrum radios don't get enough credit, much better than DX4R and older radios.
@rcjer6473
@rcjer6473 3 жыл бұрын
@@vivos71 yeah I'll choose my dx5pro with the sr2100 receiver all day long at the track. I like spectrum..mine has the drop down and overall it's all about your skills
@vivos71
@vivos71 3 жыл бұрын
@@rcjer6473 without a doubt it's the skill that comes first, but having a radio that's comfortable during nitro mains is also a huge plus.
@h.k.7768
@h.k.7768 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, at first sorry for my bad English, i am from Germany. I think about to buy in the beginning of the next Year to buy an RC car for the Racetrack. I try to collect much Information as possible. This Video is a great help, because the Guys here in Germany who make Videos like this dont drive on a Racetrack, they are only bashing. Seeing that not all parts have to cost a lot is good thing. I think your Videos are very helpful when you want to Start with the RC Hobby. Hope to see much Videos for a long Time. Wish you all the best in life and on the Racetrack.
@robthemouthmillan301
@robthemouthmillan301 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan your lacking on vids mis your videos can’t wait for the next one buddy great job!!
@coldzea4259
@coldzea4259 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about what you want out of the equipment. Sure we can get it done with cheaper gear if that's your goal.. I think pursuing the tech and your personal goals comes down to what you want from your race program. As a pipe welder I always know that I can do it with the bare minimal. When I put my hands on a new machine it's like wow!!! this has some of the features that I've been searching for. Not because I need them, but I want to push that extra mile in my quality, speed and articulation. Again! Not necessary, but technology drives the mind to achieve much greater things....otherwise what was the point of landing on the moon or mars or even further....just have fun no matter what your ultimate goals are😜
@troypostie1252
@troypostie1252 3 жыл бұрын
1st time viewer. Nice deep analysis dude. Well done...more please
@RocketZ06801
@RocketZ06801 3 жыл бұрын
spektrum is the best radio ever. I love re-binding my radio everytime I wanna run.
@jaybee6695
@jaybee6695 3 жыл бұрын
You are doing something wrong dude, Ive never had this issue and I run 7 cars my dx5c
@primoservices5636
@primoservices5636 3 жыл бұрын
This is so funny I've thought about this before how this would impact the performance of the rc. Great content really enjoyed the video. Till the next one. Primo
@ruftime
@ruftime 3 жыл бұрын
35 years of 1:1 and RC racing have illustrated one point......the driver, is MOST often the weakest link😎
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
Preach! I have no doubt that a pro driver could take a RTR radio and spank us all no problem haha
@jackdurden466
@jackdurden466 3 жыл бұрын
Hey according to Dominick Torretto it’s always about the driver, no matter which car.
@kurtbenson6600
@kurtbenson6600 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hear a lot of guys trash talking the cheaper radios and I don't understand why, since I've used many different radios in just the last couple of years. In my opinion, it would be difficult to find an absolutely terrible hobby-grade radio nowadays.
@MattTrump075
@MattTrump075 3 жыл бұрын
Would love hear what you guys think about the "feel" if the Spektrum DX5 Pro 2021 edition as it seems to have more of those customizable features like spring tension, throttle throws, and steering wheel drop down (as well as grip thickness)
@fill596
@fill596 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the one I use! All I use
@hristoivanov9587
@hristoivanov9587 9 ай бұрын
the issue is not choosing the cheap radio or not, both of which are fine. I would make the same comparison with those who have an iPhone or a cheap phone, they both work
@RCWithAaron
@RCWithAaron 3 жыл бұрын
I Just bought an M17 from SS to replace my........... M8 ! lol I've been running it since 03ish? Talk about feel and loving a radio... So hard to let that go and move on. Obviously I didn't care about " modern tech" and it wasn't affecting the racing i was doing. I still / will forever Love that radio!!
@chocolatelager
@chocolatelager 3 жыл бұрын
Great Vid! I would love to see what you guys do on a Spektrum DX5 Pro switching between 5.5ms /11ms frame rates. I use both and can't tell a difference honestly...
@FunTimezRC
@FunTimezRC 3 жыл бұрын
Tracks looks sick and love the intro with the drone footage... awesome video! 👌
@snapshot_rccars
@snapshot_rccars 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I started racing with an old 100 usd Futaba Megatech radio and upgraded to a KO Propo Mars EX-1. It wasn't only the different feel, it was quicker in response and had more adjustment I didn't have before. These little differences gave me some more possibilities to adjust as well as a more connected feel to drive.
@TheLaxkev
@TheLaxkev 3 жыл бұрын
This is great content. Such a good message to racers out there
@djanubi
@djanubi Жыл бұрын
For those who wonder it's not about lap times but smoothness, accurate driving, repeatability ! Cheap radios won't give you that ! Even the Mt 44 that I have is not a good radio compared to M12 for example ! Buy good radio and servo and a cheaper car, you will be happier than the opposite ! Also comes down to the driver, if you are happy with a mx-6 you don't need a better radio !
@marekbous7005
@marekbous7005 Ай бұрын
Hi @RyanHarrisRC, can you also make a comparison with some super cheap Chinese radio? Like your videos so much. Thanks
@jamarcus_OG
@jamarcus_OG 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Spektrum DX4C and I feel great with it. I've tried also a Sanwa MT-44 and a MT-S from two friends and I couldn't get the feel of what the car was doing. I've also let them try the DX4C and they both said they had difficulties with the trigger being too small and that braking was harder compared to the Sanwa's because of the longer range. I guess it's a subjective thing. The only way you can determine what's best for you is trying as many radios as possible.
@tecnica2001
@tecnica2001 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, awesome comparison, not much of a difference in lap times, this radio is a good solid base as a race radio, you can even argue that unless you’re a top tier driver at your local track, upgrading the radio is not going to make much of a difference👍
@Blimpus
@Blimpus 3 жыл бұрын
Well, back in my day, us kids had the choice of either Airtronix or Futaba, I used Airtronix on my clod
@foyjustice7212
@foyjustice7212 2 жыл бұрын
I did notice a difference when I went to a high end radio. Maybe its the wrong word to use. But there was more "resolution". I felt more connected. My lap times dropped and I was more consistent. I went from a base model Sanwa to a much better Sanwa model. Happy racing out there!
@foyjustice7212
@foyjustice7212 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that high end radios have a bit of traction / throttle control? And the lower end are just raw input. If thats the case that matters 2 ways. Maybe you need the lets call it TC. But if your just really good. Any radio will do.
@EchosKaos
@EchosKaos 3 жыл бұрын
I was always running out of range on my 8s felony switched to dx5c felt like i had way more control of the car an no lag at far distance
@surfside75
@surfside75 3 жыл бұрын
Hoping for the same.. to me after research this Spektrum dx5c is the best mid tier radio.. bash on!🤙🍻
@kennysilvers-z4x
@kennysilvers-z4x Жыл бұрын
Kenny, you had one job to do dammit. I'm kidding of course. Great job guys! Based on your demonstration, it's the driver and not the remote for the most part. Dos dedos mis amigos!
@Louc4356
@Louc4356 3 жыл бұрын
Dumbo rc radio is almost as fast as the sanwa and it’s around $30
@juanpablosaenz625
@juanpablosaenz625 3 жыл бұрын
The dumbo is great but it’s major downside is that it has no endpoint adjustments. Vital feature if you want your servos to last and to have a good steering setup. I do use it for my bashers tho because I don’t have to worry about getting it wet or muddy
@baitse7676
@baitse7676 3 жыл бұрын
I could tell that you were driving to SS from the aerial view. That last left turn is the worst. haha
@xxCusco
@xxCusco 3 жыл бұрын
Let's see a Justock vs XR10 Pro, or a standard 17.5 vs "team edition/certified" motor.
@NaughtyGoatFarm
@NaughtyGoatFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the difference between lap times was more due to you both being use to your regular transmitters?
@jobe0505
@jobe0505 3 жыл бұрын
Love that song
@DetoursRC
@DetoursRC 2 жыл бұрын
My dx5c has been great. Ive got like 7 cars on it. To me it feels a little cheap but works great.
@LonerSurfer
@LonerSurfer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah. My latest - the Spektrum DX5 Pro is way faster than any TX I’ve own before. I also have it for my motor on axle crawler that needs a physical 3 position switch to give me the 3 modes of dig. The old radios couldn’t do that. It isn’t just about speed. Sometimes you HAVE to buy the expensive radio for specialized RC vehicle projects. My trail truck has a 2 speed tranny with a shifter servo and a rear steering servo. The DX5 Pro handles the 4 channels needed. A less expensive (with less channels) radio - no 4WS/2 speed trail truck. And when it comes to my Team Associated DR10 drag racer - throttle reaction is QUICK (with the SR2100 racing receiver). And when you race, you’re also forced to think about a faster steering and throttling transmitter. It’s how you win the race. Inexpensive for the basher. Expensive for the experienced racer/builder who has all kinds of different RC rigs that bash AND race. And model memory! Lots of rigs dictate lots of model memory. I would think a radio for each model would be a pain in the ass. And inexpensive radios are short on memory. I have 4 rigs that I use the Spektrum on…so far
@infernalstone699
@infernalstone699 3 жыл бұрын
I like this idea for a series. Something I'd recommend next time. Go looking around for the new guys. I promise there's someone that's only a year or so in to the hobby, or just racing on a budget that's running that DX5C (I'm one of those, as a returning racer with a kid now) and invite them along. So we know what happens when you give good racers cheap equipment, they're still good. But as a flip side, what happens when you take the dude running a 4wd SCT with hobbywing budget equipment and swap their radio?
@keithcarlisle29
@keithcarlisle29 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting addition to the comparison would have been you both using a different high end radio as well to see what difference that made.
@jonowillmer
@jonowillmer 3 жыл бұрын
There is a steering wheel spring adjustment screw under the wheel, if you turn it clockwise it gets tighter.
@campov00
@campov00 3 жыл бұрын
A nice thing would be to put a beginner to test both radios to see if they can see any difference.
@bradyknowzbest1149
@bradyknowzbest1149 3 жыл бұрын
Idk i see allot of people running the spektrum radios at my local track including myself. Ive been racing for 13 years now, and spektrum does great for me. Specially 4 the price
@rodcaseracing3376
@rodcaseracing3376 3 жыл бұрын
Did the cheaper radio have the adjusters to set steering and throttle tention? Wondering if some of those "feels" can be adjusted out. My MT4 has little tention screws others have replacement springs.
@RyanHarrisRC
@RyanHarrisRC 3 жыл бұрын
I believe at the very least the Spektrum had a steering adjustment, not sure about the throttle
@nightrod909
@nightrod909 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, makes sense
@ashermorales8276
@ashermorales8276 3 жыл бұрын
Kenny has changed so much since the last time I’ve seen him He’s also an insane driver wth
@jitsemiedema7423
@jitsemiedema7423 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure after you've been using the spectrum for a day. You would get used to the spring in the wheel. And you'll be able to knock-out the same consistent laptimes. But for sure at some point you will need the higher precision of the potentiometers in the highend radio's.
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