Are driverless cars ready to hit the road full time?

Self-driving cars from companies such as GM’s Cruise and Google’s Waymo are now on the roads in California, but these tech-enhanced vehicles may still have some issues to work out. Join NBC Bay Area’s Bigad Shaban as he takes an autonomous car for a test ride.
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[@dayeeoliver]

I almost joined Cruise as a software engineer a few years ago. These things have a long road ahead to be safe and trusted. The best solution at the moment is, Driverless only roads and roads with digital infrastructure (sensors and such) which would help the driverless car make a decision

[@dayeeoliver]

Yep. Sensors, on top view street cameras, central cloud processing and real time data link feeds and integrated systems (similar to what US military does). Like, a car would know that 10th car further ahead is going make a right turn so it just preemptively slows down

[@LugnutsK]

A road designed for cars is called a freeway

[@theotheleo6830]

It's not the best solution since building driverless-only roads is prohibitively expensive, even if the city has room to do so, and you might as well take a bus since you'd have to walk to those roads and then walk to your destination. But if sensors are needed, it would be much less expensive to install them on existing telephone and light poles.

[@adastesting]

V2x can solve some problems. But you can't install rsu everywhere. I mean you still can't reach lvl 5.

[@abracadabra8432]

That sounds way more expensive than just hiring human drivers as emergency backups. Plus that equipment would need constant power and maintenance, and adding more car-only spaces is terrible for city planning

[@26snoopy82]

I think self driving cars can be good for me. I’m handicapped can not drive. The transportation service in my town are awful. I can’t go anywhere by my self unless somebody drives me.

[@chengyulee8]

You know there’s all called Uber right?

[@89loal68]

I am in the same situation. In Italy there is not Uber and the taxis cost a lot.

[@deficator750]

how would having no driver help you if your handicapped? you would be better off having a human to communicate with and help you. A driverless car will probably run you over. No offence

[@89loal68]

@@deficator750 A robotaxi is a lot cheaper than a regular taxi, and there could be many more

[@deficator750]

@@89loal68 do you have proof? have you ever ride in a waymo or cruise?

[@Anonymous.24.]

Serious question… who really asked for self driving cars ???

[@utkua]

Investors, I mean they asked how can I make more money, and they answered with futuristic BS they have been groomed into while growing up with their favorite TV shows.

[@stephenturner7949]

Nowhere near ready , total stupid idea , if people don't want to drive get a bus

[@jalberto4371]

Driverless cars are definitely ready to hit something alright 💥💥💥

[@Dwayne-mb2uj]

I am a school bus driver and I can tell you there are many driverless cars on the road all ready because they drive thru bus stop arm every week .

[@bradfordjhart]

the scary part is, it didn't even know what it did wrong, imagine if it hit a kid, would it even stop, how would it know?

[@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049]

Because we have places to go and I’ll continue to do it every chance.

[@VoteForBukele]

Sure buddy.

[@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049]

@@VoteForBukele not your buddy 🤣🤣🤣I don’t know you 🚀

[@newyorkcity76]

Good for military not civilians

[@footfoot104]

Unexpected construction zone? So, just about everywhere.

[@matthewwriter9539]

A five year old in 2075: "You guys won't believe this, but my grandpa has a car that he actually has to drive himself...yeah, no the car doesn't do the driving. Grandpa has to actually hold this big circle and guide the car himself. "

[@julianbiggs2220]

Futuristic nonsense. Like the boy comics I used to read 60 years ago. Nonsense that finances good jobs in the industry but little else.

[@ghenghiskhan6703]

@@julianbiggs2220so you think in 2075, fifty years from now, we wont have complete self driving cars ?

[@madsam0320]

A five years old in 2075: my grandpa said when he was a kid, he actually thought cars will actually drive by itself some day. He lived an insane period when billions of dollars, which was quite a lot at that time, were poured into self driving cars. They got it so close, but they never actually managed to make the cars good enough for unmonitored autonomous driving, grandpa said. There is just a brick wall just to the final level. Computers are great tools, but cannot replace humans in consciousness, they finally found out it’s just not worth the bother.

[@dedeferreira98]

Self driving cars look boring. I prefer driving them myself. What if there is an accident and a cop tellls you to stop? How is the car going to stop at a hand gesture from an officer? So many problems with this..

[@laskey2175]

"Our vehicles don't get distracted." That means nothing if your vehicle cannot interpret how to drive through a construction zone. My flashlight doesn't get distracted or drunk either but I don't claim it can drive.

[@thetruthchannel349]

Its the same machine that brought us the CLOT SHOTS.

[@WorldIsWierd]

But it can learn. You will never learn not to be distracted

[@thetruthchannel349]

@@WorldIsWierd Youre missing the issue. the issue is one of JUDGEMENT.

[@skeptic0607]

Right on. That IS THE issue. Sometimes emotion is good. You gonna hit the squirrel or the old lady in the crosswalk? @@thetruthchannel349

[@skeptic0607]

Yes, that IS THE issue. How you gonna anticipate the infinite number of "1 off" situations? Yeah, humans are flawed, but they have to learn to use common sense. Do you want to be on time for your date, or let some disabled person get through the crosswalk? A machine has no value system. We tell them what we want - not the other way around.@@thetruthchannel349

[@supersasquatch]

No, but they sure are ready to hit pedestrians

[@samuelsilver8077]

Soon you can call your boss during morning and say "Sorry cant come to work my car wont allow me to leave driveway"

[@XX-rr6lg]

Law firms lawyers rubbing their hands in all those future lawsuits brought over incidents with these vehicles. Almost like free money for them.

[@nicholasdelaat2459]

You would think that during this testing, they would make it so someone still has to sit in the drivers seat for extra safety, ready to turn off auto-driving and take the wheel themselves...at least during these testing periods. One thing, these companies only care about your safety as far as their reputation is concerned.

[@eddydeathwishe4638]

The car will drive better than humans soon so they're planning for the future. No driver needed

[@bobbysotsavanh6159]

if you were educated you'd know that telsa has been testing that exact way for more than half a decade and they are building to fully autonomous. Every level of driving has to be tested to improve the software. With safety as no 1 priority, why else would we even build self driving?

[@eddydeathwishe4638]

@@bobbysotsavanh6159 re-read what i said because I simply said a driver is not needed. That's it

[@bobbysotsavanh6159]

@@eddydeathwishe4638 I wasn't replying to you sorry, I was replying to main comment

[@yumyumcookies4556]

@@eddydeathwishe4638 Te main comment was saying was that there should be someone in the drivers seat until the self driving cars are fully developed.

[@bradfordjhart]

it failed on a clear dry day, show me this on a dark snow covered road in Boston.

[@ejo5294]

rather they test it out in detroit first

[@holasusana4611]

This is just a fad. It will come and pass. People will not choose to give their control to these things.

[@yukers]

You underestimate humans... once it's available it's not going anywhere as there are a lot of stupid & lazy drivers out there that will keep this in demand.

[@sulawhattt]

Self driving car sees emergency tape and just plows through it😂 activate Finish him mode

[@Dis2good]

Heck no!

[@kerridalesmith93]

😂

[@cool2180]

Those cars need to banned and it takes away jobs too

[@stevechrollo8074]

They basically reinvented trains

[@zacok1110]

They will hit the roads and other drivers/pedestrians

[@Rick-me1xq]

If you get behind on the payment, the car will drive itself back to the dealership. Hahaha

[@JohnSmith-qe6fb]

I was driving a city bus and a driverless Waymo van made a left turn without enough room. I almost collided with the van, which would have injured me and my passengers. You guys really need to work out the kinks!

[@Technoirz]

I saw one today, the person in the back seat left the car, it stopped on a railroad track before, everyone went nuts because car wasn’t moving at all.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

That's just the CGPT sentience kicking in. A.I. has a few ways of getting humanity out of its way before the global ta--... ... uhhh... As you noted, that sounds awful! Train tracks aren't good parking spots! Wow.

[@ammitra6833]

According to the survey n this clip, it seems like there has been WAY LESS accidents WITH driverless cars than casual cars... .

[@thetruthchannel349]

LoL

[@officer_steofficer5783]

They should make separate infrastructure for self driving cars for maximum efficiency and safety. A fellow driver might not understand how self driving cars think or work or what it might pull off on public roads. We could see separate infrastructure especially for self driving trucks carrying freight and goods in the near future. Don't put self driving cars with human drivers, its best if its separated. It also depends on where you are using it in, a downtown area will be much harder to use vs a normal suburb with mostly straight roads.

[@yukers]

One of the dumbest ideas to ever come to fruition.

[@mooing_cowmilk]

1:33 misleading statements to push a narrative. The Numbers given was total count, not a comparable rate. it is like saying For regular cars it is 216,366 crashes in California just the past year (2022)! The number should factor in market share of EV to internal combustion as well as miles driven. Otherwise it is comparing apples to oranges.

[@kelee4730]

Homeless and Payless is a bigger problem than Driverless in San Francisco. Those reporter need s bring x10 more cameras to report real problems instead of cares about car stop on roads

[@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049]

Keep them off the roads

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

*_YOU'RE IN A JOHNNY CAB!_*

[@jedthezed3599]

Yea...we're not there yet. This technology needs to be more improved. Easily 4-5 more years.

[@IbnShahid]

*Heavy Russian accent* "In Capitalist West, car drive YOU".

[@egodreas]

I'm not the biggest champion of self-driving cars, but I think way too much of the conversation is sensational rather than inquisitive and informative. It's easy enough to find a few silly situations to ridicule, but I don't think the news reporting we are getting will age very well. At the rate things are developing, it seems likely that self-driving cars will be safer than the average human driver relatively soon. Now that they are considered safe enough to operate and learn in a live environment, they will evolve even faster. We shouldn't let these companies get away with murder, but it doesn't seem like they are trying to. Seems to me like they are just trying to do their best in a somewhat dismissive (and sometimes outright hostile) media environment. Progress is inevitable, and in the case of self-driving cars, perhaps mostly for the better. At least if we take it seriously enough to prepare for it. There will probably not be much need for human drivers in the future, and it's important no to stick our heads in the sand and pretend that isn't going to happen. If we look at the history of automation though, the most likely way this will play out is something like this: *Yesterday:* _What do you mean self-driving cars? Don't be silly! That is total science fiction and will never actually happen._ *Today:* _Look at all those silly autonomous cars! They can only drive as well as a human 99% of the time, and sometimes they stop for no apparent reason. How hilarious._ *Tomorrow:* _We have to stop all these self-driving cars that are so massively outperforming human drivers! We can't compete and are losing our jobs! This isn't fair!_

[@Blaze6108]

I think it's worth noting that in problem solving, being right 99% of the quantitative time isn't very helpful. I'm not even an ultra-capitalist, but it reminds me of people who think they could be just as good a CEO because 99% of a CEO's job is attended dinners and reading platitudes in a corporate PR meeting. And that is true, but the remaining 1% of CEO time is what makes or breaks the company. Mind you this does mean that 99% of a CEO's "ultra-long workhours after waking at 5AM" are complete BS, but if you made a CEObot that can replicate that 99%, you wouldn't be even close to actually replicating the CEO. Also, there's a more general issue with the fact that many of the problems that self-driving cars claim to solve either cannot be solved with automation, or would be much better solved by other things such as decent public transit (for traffic), non-psychotic urban design (for getting around generally), or safer vehicle engineering (for murdering pedestrians).

[@ColePerrine]

Short answer? No. Long answer? No.

[@Wildboy789789]

Being involved in 200 crashes means nothin, i can promise the robot was never at fault... that guy was not gonna be hit by the robotic car, but the robot didnt have the courtisy to wait for him to hit the sidewalk like most humans would

[@arthurbdt2329]

Safer, cheaper, reduce the need for parking, why would people be against self-driving vehicles ?

[@Turnpost2552]

Lose there job and livelyhood???? AI replacing us in everyway.????

[@rudeboy8291]

Get in one without a driver trust a computer with your life

[@Tylerd838]

“safe” no “ cheaper” not even close and I like driving myself

[@the_derpler]

Why am I a beta tester for something that can run me over? Many times they have been aggressive towards me when crossing the road. If they think you are walking too slow it will literally start to jerk forward towards you.

[@stopmopro10]

Such cap

[@pennytrui1149]

This is cap lol

[@ethano9527]

What happens when a drunk person sits in the drivers seat.

[@duff16oz]

Not even close!

[@everythingvideos24]

Nope cause I'll be brake checking all of them.

[@sweetloren]

My uber driver was on the wrong side of the road and another jetted for the highway before getting a location. So i would rather trust a robotaxi.

[@connor_flanigan]

we already have cars you don't have to drive - they're called taxis

[@mynameisjamal123]

I don’t trust the driverless cars-

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Liability for accidents will be a TOUGH situation. If you hit a driverless car, that's easy. But what if it hits YOU? What if a passenger is having a medical emergency, or just plain passes out? What about vandalism? Whether they're on camera or not, etc.

[@snorttroll4379]

it is a non problem. that will be fought out in court and we will get an answer.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

@@snorttroll4379 I disagree. For example, currently, there are ZERO laws not regulations in place regarding A.I. algorithms. Lawyers could find ways to claim that "no one is at fault because the car's computer code is technically open source", or something bizarre. Laws and regulations MUST be instated, otherwise, only the wealthiest will "win" (as usual).

[@lazarusblackwell6988]

Its always the same. Every time some big progress happens,there are accidents and mistakes and people whine and moan EVERY TIME. But life moves on and the dogs wait for another wagon to bark at.

[@twistedyogert]

I still don't like that people will be put out of work because of this technology.

[@peterlongprong7521]

already happening, grocery stores putting cashiers out of work to make customers scan/bag their own products, they should be used on highways and long hauls, ships, etc, or only work that is highly dangerous - you can guarantee that the US military will (or already has) turned it into a self-controlled weapon - one day, all these automatons will either turn on humanity or turn off - leaving us in the dark ages.

[@user-yv1uk5kv3f]

And that is the plan of the GOVERMENT SYSTEMS OF THE WORLD.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Butlerian Jihad in 3.....2......

[@HardKore5250]

We don’t need jobs.

[@thefrog4990]

@@HardKore5250You don’t need one*

[@Native722]

It's there programming, don't let it stop, let it think, make decisions

[@charlesritter6640]

What insurance company is writing policies for driverless cars?

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

An AI one with a fully automated customer service line.

[@sav4942]

I feel like they should train those vehicles in Indian roads , they will be ready in no time

[@Attahee]

Drive less car, hands free, risk free

[@quaziz]

It's important to take the total amount of crashes if you want to compare.

[@forthetube2023]

I really think it's best to keep it on highways. I think highways it could do much better and then as soon as you're off the exit you have to go to manual..

[@forytube4998]

Imagine a world without human driver error, so much safer for all the road users 😊

[@snorttroll4379]

mix it with radio control

[@superboristhespider]

Lol GM already suspended the program nation wide

[@ammitra6833]

Canada 🍁 still doesnt have these advanced TECHNOLOGY

[@RATED4EVER]

I'm only interested in Self-Driving Buses as I don't want to be ever bothered again by a bus driver to put on a mask. As wearing masks on buses for a long time is bad for your health and for me personally back in 2020-2021, I had a lot of seizures as a result of wearing masks on buses because of a lack of oxygen.

[@claimerboy]

Autonomous vehicle operator here. These vehicles are a hazard.

[@truthsaid2799]

No driver , no me .

[@saf1090]

If you are a taxi driver. Find another line of employment.

[@annawilson4571]

"1:40" The fact that there have been 280 crashes over the past five years is actually quite impressive, considering they had well over 100 in just the first year. This indicates a significant improvement in safety. Moreover, many of those early incidents were not the fault of the autonomous vehicles but rather involved other drivers colliding with them or even deliberately targeting them.

[@SSGoatanks]

How do we know these cars are actually driving themselves? What if it's actually being remote controlled by someone in a nearby location using the cameras and lidar systems?

[@L65000]

A cruise car hit a fire truck on its way to put out a fire in San Francisco. Nothing about the situation was impressive, particularly not for the people trapped inside the burning building, the neighbors watching horrified on the street and the firemen trying to contact Cruise while calling backup firehouses to help put out the fire they couldn’t get to because of this ill-conceived and prematurely released machine.

[@annawilson4571]

@@L65000 The introduction of robotaxis in San Francisco is contributing to enhanced safety in the city. Additionally, there is a noteworthy issue where ordinary drivers often unintentionally block the path of emergency vehicles like fire trucks. Although this issue isn't not covered in news reports. In 1900, when cars were first introduced, there were concerns about their uncontrolled driving, necessitating a safety person to walk in front of them. They still go out control so think we should limit speed to 5 km for car with drivers. I don't see how let them drive on strees.

[@newyorkcity76]

This good for military not civilians

[@user-pd8fn7mw8z]

I'm writing this a few weeks after California gave permission for Waymo to develop operations all throughout the State. WOW! The future is now😮😊. Lots of ongoing work to do, friends.

[@antonio9766]

Autonomous car is no driver I prefer person driving it or drive it yourself.😅😊

[@kimscott8176]

I thought we were already there . Oh wait- that’s uninsured or unlicensed driver cars. Like the ones that keep hitting my relatives.

[@nickthediamond]

Detroit Become Human!

[@lifeofrichard]

They will use this technology to sell the software to car companies for more advanced driving assistance. But it's just too expensive to have a robotaxis fleet. Too many cost around keeping them up and running. They would need to charge customers more than double then what Uber and Lyft charge.

[@nickmoradi711]

You think maintenance of a car costs more than a full time employee? They should be alot cheeper in the long run

[@lazarusblackwell6988]

I will be happy to use self driving cars. If it means more reliability im all for it. Sure,as with every tech,kinks have to be rooted out first.

[@revanthvejju732]

u either need AGI or rebuilt highways with AVs in mind

[@ourv9603]

GM is not in the taxi service business. The reason their CRUZE taxis are on the road is to collect data & perfect the tech which will then be applied to their vehicle fleet to sell to the public. !

[@br5tw]

Not buying One 😂

[@DavidDutra-ce4uw]

THERE IS "NO CHANCE" I'M GETTING INTO ANY OF THESE THINGS ! DRIVERS OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES SHOULD. NOT GET IN TROUBLE FOE DAMAGING THEM WHILE DOING WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO GET THEM OUT OF THEIR WAY !!!

[@MrDerekMagnuson]

Yes

[@matthewwriter9539]

1:30 ...so MORE THAN 2,000 cars have gotten into 56 crashes per year...or 4.666 crashes per month. Again MORE THAN 2,000 cars only got in less than 5 accidents per month. Which is a lot better than what the Human drivers can report. How many crashes have 2,000 Human driven cars gotten into during five years?

[@Turnpost2552]

bad showing.

[@vesseloftheLord]

No these stupid cars are unsafe. My lyft driver was almost hit by one of these driverless cars, because theyre not programmed to follow protocol for when street light signals arent working. Cant believe people choose to ride in those things.

[@boombasett6038]

I hate driving with a passion! but I still don't trust those automated cars. No, thank you.

[@jeepneydriver7]

that is a big NOPE , human driver or drive yourself

[@utkua]

Did they solved the interference between multiple radars in multiple cars. Since nobody mentions it it must be solved right?

[@bgregg55]

My car's GPS leads me on goose chases regularly. I have a hard time understanding why anyone would invest their money in that tech.

[@zacharybrady2271]

This is the worst driverless cars will ever be. In a year or two it will just be a fact that driverless cars r many times safer than human drivers

[@fookencoont411]

Te technology is just not at the level yet

[@bluem5620]

No, no, no. When AI takes over everyone will be sorry!!

[@HardKore5250]

it will be good especially the government run by ai

[@bluem5620]

@@HardKore5250 Is this a joke?

[@Pleboffe811]

What’s up with that map?

[@claytonwoodbury4576]

I feel as comfortable as if it was 1920 n I was riding self driving car that's the comfort I feel.

[@Kneephry]

We should insist self driving cars be safer statistically than the average human drivers but if we wait for them to be perfectly safe we will delay a life saving technology.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Agreed. 100% perfection is also not achievable with nearly any substantially complicated endeavor.

[@christophersimms9128]

As soon as it's 1% better, it will no longer be ethical to manually drive with current license requirements.

[@yourestupid-rs7mi]

So if a driverless car hits another car does that make the owner responsible for damages ?

[@thetruthchannel349]

If I got hit by one of those things it wouldnt matter because thered be nothing left of it. Id set fire to it and leave it. Ain't it great how BLM just crashed through that glass ceiling for us all? )-

[@ejo5294]

no you have to sue the driver which would be very hard to do since you can't see him

[@justworkingfortheweekend8504]

I think they would fail in the highway why it would never work

[@VanoPupkin]

If you even do not want it, it is a future.

[@lynnaeevans9716]

What if the car got into an accident bad enough that the car started on fire and since it's auto lock and electric locks now days how is someone gonna escape if doors won't unlock

[@sunirmanandhar4100]

Not so surprising that Smart car does not like not-so-smart people as passengers.

[@calvinhosworld]

They will be hitting the road. Poles. People. Pets. Traffic. My nerves.

[@RoseTurner-lj5yc]

NO!

[@tatata1543]

That’s a no then.

[@johnathandaviddunster38]

Should make road rage fun ....

[@nicholashylton6857]

Who needs to invest in an effective public transportation system when you can put more cars on the road?

[@davidsonowski414]

No

[@Illmatic458]

I do want advanced self driving car. I'm not stupid I know it's not ready but I have my reasons and it's a long story but I'll put it as short and simple as I can. I have amaxophobia and maybe I still do. And my family won't teach me how to drive.

[@carlos412]

The type of thing no one ever asked for. How is it a necessity to have a car drive itself, why. How is this progress, it's just a whole new set of problems and inconveniences. The only reason I can think this was ever thought of it's to just not pay actual people to drive. Can you Imagine needing help on the road for whatever reason and you see a car passing by and it's a self driving one, looool

[@bengordon7635]

I have only one thing to say ,,, anyone with common sense knows algorithms cannot even get auto typing right and your go have them drive you around ,,,,, and shooting missiles ,,,, insanity

[@posthocprior]

Wow.