Are Fortnite Chapters Too Short?

Fortnite chapters are significantly shorter than they used to be and it raises the question: were two-year chapters better and what are the potential negatives of longer chapters?
Parts
intro 0:00
The Negatives of Longer Chapters 0:47
Chapter 3's problematic map 5:17
The Negatives
of One-Year Chapters 7:32
Conclusion: 10:00

[@claudeheinrich3613]

2 year chapters make the maps more iconic, I already forgot about all the one year ones, they seem so irrelevant

[@claudeheinrich3613]

I do think its exiting though having a fresh map so often

[@MarianzYT]

Nah you forgot prob bc you didn't care for them, although Chapters should be longer, but if map changes are lackluster then it's useless to have a map for 2 years if they ain't changing anything about it

[@Bukwheat]

​@@MarianzYTnothing is changing because they are working on a new map as soon as the new one is done

[@MarianzYT]

@@Bukwheat That's why yearly chapters is a poor decision, but they ain't gonna change their approach at this point

[@pirenn]

@@MarianzYT I wouldn't be so sure about that. If it becomes more profitable for epic to extend the amount of time we're on one map they will do it.

[@fatcatmorris4484]

I feel like the longer chapters allow all the poi’s to be fleshed out so much better so that we actually care about the map.

[@iceisnice4331]

+1

[@namedless]

Chapter 1 and 2 maps both had cool small storys developijg over the chapter + the main stuff

[@MattMelniczukvideos]

Ye like people sad when thier favorite poi’s got destroyed in the chapter 1 volcano event

[@4NDR31_4L1N]

From my experience with Fortnite, I think 2 year chapters are better for creating updates, maintaining the map by keeping it a longer time, having to spend less resources and also having enough time to do a very good chapter, like Chapter 2. I don't like these 1 year chapters much, because of 1 year completely changing map that makes me confused af when I see the new weapons again, the map being extremely inconfortable at first sight and yeah...pretty much just bs after chapter 2 + the weapons should be at least used and not forgotten in creative.

[@claudeheinrich3613]

also putting more love and effort into a map and updates

[@mango_banjo]

Caseoh is speaking fax

[@Hasty12YT]

if chapter 3 was 2 years long it would have been so much better

[@Sparxzy]

I love chapter 2 and 1 but if chapter 3 had 8-10 seasons with live events and a good story and just good gameplay and stuff overall, it definitely could’ve surpassed them

[@Kokatsona]

Chapter 3 was actually supposed to be longer but Donald Mustard retired in s3 so they rushed it

[@ButTheWolf]

​@@Sparxzywell it took fortnite 6 fucking seasons to develop a good story for the game, so chapter 3 may have been worse than chapter 2, because of the lack of story

[@basilplushie2534]

Every chapter would have been so much better if they were 2 years Do you think chapter 1 would have been iconic if it ended with the original rocket event Ofc not

[@JaybroGaming9123]

If chapter 4 and 3 were one chapter, that would actually be pretty great, I know a major complaint of chapter 4 was the map so if they just plopped down some C4 POIs on the C3 map then it probably would’ve been received much better. But would Paradise still have been season 4 or would they have to shift that forward?

[@eli3dx523]

Donald Mustard had said that the main character from Fortnite was the map, this is why both chapters 1 and 2 were 2 years long because in Donald's mind it gave him enough time to fully develop the character of the "Map".

[@ghjjiyeqsg1052]

With Chapters 1 & 2, players could get attached to the POIs that stuck around the most, such as Pleasant Park, Titled Towers, Dusty Depot/Divot, Risky Reels, etc. On top of that, you had content gold for many creators who came to know these POIs and do stupid shit with them. Story was bigger and had even some smaller ones like The Chair, The Gnome Family, etc. Certain skins from the BP actually had backstory, connections, and impact on the lore as a whole. Chapters 3 and 4 completely changed this flow, going for a much more quick and hustle-esque style. In Chapter 3, you went from new island, new paradise to ‘Paradise’, having it go from “Thank You , The Seven” to “Ending IO’s Career” to “My House by Flo Rida” (Party, basically), to “Why is everything becoming shiny?”. In moments, you had the Reality Tree biome-ify Greasy and the surrounding area, and the Sanctuary turned into a Chrome Castle the next season. Course, that’s not as bad as the next chapter, no. Chapter 4 gave us all the big name POIs and stuff, with one of them only getting spotlight for one season that chapter: Faulty Splits. After C4S1, it got consumed by the Neo Tokyo biome and POIs like Mega City and Kenjutsu Crossing. Wilds season wiped out Anvil Square and gave us some Jungle POIs and a biome. Then, in the last season of Chapter 4, Eclipsed Estate wiped out The Citadel, and Sanguine Suites wiped out Lonely Labs. And so far, Chapter 5 has followed much of the same. Ritzy Rivera got nuked by The Underworld and Grim Gate, while Hazy Hillside was wiped by Mount Olympus and Brawler’s Battleground, while Ruined Reels became Restored Reels. My point being is that Epic is, essentially, going by drop spot behavior. When they see a POI that most don’t land at, they’ll nuke it just to get a fresh one in there, hence why each chapter always has that one, two, maybe even three or four POIs that don’t undergo a single massive change over the course of the chapter, while less popular ones (Faulty Splits, Anvil Square, Ritzu Rivera, and Hazy Hillside) all get canned after a season or two without any real impact on the playerbase. 2 year seasons worked better cause we at least got some POIs that stuck around for three before even being severely altered/replaced completely, where now it’s either in one or two seasons before a POI is nuked in favor of a new one. Yes, I typed this all out cause I watched the full video and I see the positives and negatives, but as he said, “Epic is prioritizing Quantity over Quality”

[@Gingerboi101]

Real. That’s why I really want chapter five to last more than one year I like the map a lot it’s fresh and it’s the best since chapter 1

[@HeisenbergH20]

You also have to remember they reset the chapter around Christmas time almost every time. To give that bare bones first season a spice up with Christmas. And it almost always works

[@manansahdeva]

This Christmas was horrible. They removed the cabin bro

[@calvinsallee]

2 year chapters were sick. But by the end your really feeling map fatuege. 1 year tho? Too short man. I feel like time goes by too quick for them. 1.5 years tho? Sounds perfect to me

[@jacquestuber628]

Chapter 2 the one with the Shadow and all that stuff and that map I think was perfect, I think that had the most memorable gameplay. And you really got to learn that map inside and out.

[@syvvik814]

I think rotating between summer and winter chapter changes would be great. Especially for those who have winter or summer break going on. It's great for the kiddos

[@GunsAndAmmo3]

​@@jacquestuber628i started in c2

[@jacquestuber628]

@@GunsAndAmmo3 I loved how long chapter 2 took, I mean I really got to know that map inside and out.

[@shadowdstarguy8427]

Short answer is yes, more time for people to actually learn to love the chapter and grow memories from them. That’s one of the reasons chapters one and two were so beloved. Also, there is more room for live events and even story elements.

[@JamesTheFoxeArt]

I think 2 year chapters are just a more stable formula for the game, gives the devs some breathing room to work on the games content, and work on the next map more as well, and with Epic whole metaverse idea, it's probablythe better option. I think besides chapters 3 which was not intended to be 1 years, most people have just not liked the one year chapters as much as the 2 year chapters.

[@JamesTheFoxeArt]

Also while the idea of varying chapter lengths is interesting and cool, that sounds like a nightmare for devs and probably wouldn't be that great in practice.

[@Sousou-kq9uh]

2 years ?! Also 1 years is too long so 2 years ?! Season during 3 month is so sadistic like in the fist month you play regularly but afte the second or the third you’re bored I want the season during fast like 1 month or 2 that’s it and a more long chapter but not 2 years like I want to see the new chapter faster

[@clacktrak]

It feels like Fortnite is finding it harder to make a single Fortnite Chapter interesting so that makes me worried for the future of the game. Also Chapters having only 4 seasons sounds dumb and they should also have more seasons for a chapter.

[@chemkip2697]

I just miss the story and the hype around live events

[@onyx_vii7808]

1.5 year long chapters with new seaons every 2 months. I think this is the sweet spot. Gives enough time for the map to have some longevity whilst also keeping players engaged in new seasons. Would never happen obviously. They would run out of ideas too fast at that rate. But what they are doing right now is good too; from both a player aspect and developer aspect. Its good for both the way they have it tbh.

[@Sparxzy]

Chapter 3 is the only 1 year chapter I have nostalgia from really, even though I still think Chapter 2 and 1 are better, if it had more time I think it could’ve surpassed them if Epic actually put there all into the seasons

[@claudeheinrich3613]

I dont even remember the chapter 3 map and chapter 4 map basically as well, not like chapter 1 and 2 that had iconic POIs

[@nugg3tssfm111]

I think the nostalgia coming from chapter 3 was because of the fact that we thought it would be 2 years long but it wasn’t so it was sad to see the map go

[@NoBro_]

​@@nugg3tssfm111Yeah I thought it would go on for a while

[@insertnamehere9260]

Ngl chapter 3s guns were too bad compared to the others to the point where I don't miss it. If it had chap 4, or 2 guns it would have been way better.

[@Lolwhoareyou824]

Vegeta

[@applejuice7122]

I’ve enjoyed chapter 5 so far, but there was something about chapter 4 that felt very fresh and I loved all of the coloring of the map. It was so nice.

[@rixbyte7438]

Hey, first of all I'm glad I've found your channel. It's nice to come across someone who makes retrospective and reflective content/commentary about the game for people who have stuck with the game long enough. Personally I had a lot of fun with chapter 4, but I would've still liked to see the chapters being more developed.

[@Momolo328]

I don’t care how long it is, I just want that storyline back

[@marcycronin2000]

2-year chapters 2 chapter had some many good seasons, but chapter 3 had 2 good seasons

[@YoshiSaikono]

I honestly love this video and the points that you make. I actually agree with the idea of the director deciding the length of the timeline of the chapter based on how the story is going and honestly think that with how things are now, the chapters are too short. I recall hearing accounts from Fortnite developers about the extensive cuts made to shorten the season, affecting the length of the story, map changes, and a lot of other important key events that would explain certain plot holes we have today. It's really sad that because of this direction Epic has taken, we have unintentionally lost a lot of live events and map transformations. It's not like I insist on the chapters lasting 2 years, but I dislike the predictability during live events. For instance, if a nuclear warhead was about to be launched on the map and we had to stop it, the outcome is evident when there are still 4 more seasons remaining in the chapter. Which ruins the immersion. Instead, game chapters should progress in a manner similar to how chapters unfold in a book. They should end naturally when the chapter has wrapped up; it's part of the story. It should not be stretched out unnecessarily, but it should leave us with memories we can remember while also telling us a masterpiece of a story. (Some of this might be the "metaverses" fault because investors are always looking for change but that's something else to go into) with all that aside, I appreciate the time and effort you put into this video and I really wish for someone at epic to come across this video and take notes (because the community is what makes anything work.. including fortnite)

[@ItsPrismatical]

Great points Mujy, keep up the grind 💪🏾

[@astroevada]

1:14 Not to mention most if not all STW assets that got copied into battle royale have existed since the game entered early development in 2011

[@GunsAndAmmo3]

2011?? Source?

[@olafmikoaj3121]

​@@GunsAndAmmo3That’s when they first created fortnite

[@GunsAndAmmo3]

@@olafmikoaj3121 no it isn't lmao

[@olafmikoaj3121]

@@GunsAndAmmo3 Bruh. Literally first ever trailer for Fortnite is from that year. Many concept arts, that were used in Battle Royal. Have you bothered to check?

[@switchsoapy]

Very well put together video!

[@banned2911]

What you said about varying lengths of chapters depending on the story would probably be the coolest and best approach. It would make events all the more exciting because we cant know for certain if we will save the map and it reduces repetitiveness. Only year longer chapter slowly start to feel like a normal season or map change after some time because we know its going to happen. Back then a new chapter was the greatest thing to happen cuz it has been so long and there wasn’t a set time for when a new chapter would happen.

[@SFX_Genix]

I feel if Epic were to go back to 2 year chapters they would have to make the map the scale of the chapter 2 map to fit more updates and it would just be better with a bigger map

[@Rublox]

I think the sweet spot is 5-6 seasons. This gives a little bit more time to appreciate the map and play it, and it also creates diversity so not every chapter end is going to be around the exact same date

[@YugoBro]

Very good video, i was surprised to see so little views and likes, you are underrated my man

[@koopawarss9162]

Man I just want game modes for the older maps

[@koopawarss9162]

Also sypher slander is back lol

[@jacquestuber628]

Hell yeah, map number two was the best I wish I could go back to it

[@SuperS64]

@@jacquestuber628 I think you mean Chapter 2 lol

[@jacquestuber628]

@@SuperS64 yeah I know but I want to be clear because sometimes it gets mixed up

[@Its_A.Secret618]

@@jacquestuber628 pretty sure after chapter 5 we are getting a OG chapter 2 throwback season so, hopefully that happens. although I still prefer chapter 1 chapter 2 is my second favorite.

[@criptorium101]

the problem is epic is more focused on creative and all these other gamemodes instead of battle royale. They think we need all of this but we really dont. Fortnite OG’s whole event was just promoting unreal engine and the other gamemodes

[@MessiOlly8]

Yeah it was literally, LOOK GUITAR HERO, OMG RACING, AHHHH LEGO. And they now have br as a side mode, it’s the main mode you’ll see but it’s still a side mode now

[@thecelestialstarship]

One theory for Epic's 2-year Chapter 3 plan was to add the autumn/forest/oathbound biome from C4S1, midway through chapter 3 (After the Fracture event, a decent chunk of the Ch3 map would be gone, needing to be patched up with pieces from another reality) Essentially creating a kind of 'Chapter 3.5' map I honestly think this would be the best way to go about chapters - 2 year long chapters with some kind of huge map change halfway through, keeping things fresh while still allowing for more focus on balancing items, creating a storyline, and adding quality content

[@IsaiahBrooks]

Chapter 2 brought much change to the fortnite formula, having a longer map like with c2 allows pros to learn the map and for casuals to really explore it, I enjoyed c2 purely for the map sure there was a content drought but having a set map for so long with as solid locations as the one we got made me really happy.

[@Elit3Crimson]

i love yearly chapters, feels refreshing. also, underrated cc, subbed.

[@Halcyonix-ei7vn]

Never been so captivated by a video. Bro fixed my attention span

[@vanamelon9988]

This video perfectly read my thoughts on the pacing of Fortnite chapters that I didn’t even know I had.

[@otterenjoyer]

i just hope chapter 5 ends faster honestly 💀💀

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

I hope the brotherhood of steel ends the map

[@teleportingpotatoe]

people still think its gonna be a fallout collab?

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

@teleportingpotatoe if you see the teasers it's certainly possible cuz there's a HULKING BIT OF POWER ARMER!

[@teleportingpotatoe]

@@taffingtonboathouse5754 they saying its some gay as mad max shi ughhhh

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

@@teleportingpotatoe what do you mean by gay?

[@micoledupicolegaming5444]

I want them to time travel back to season X, but then have the medior just miss the zero point or something, and have the story continue from there. Then they kinda just have a clean slate.

[@BrysonWood-dn5hl]

Year and a half would be perfect imo. I feel like the two year chapters had the last 2 seasons feel so boring

[@Basegud]

One year chapters would be fine if they would actually make mid-season map changes!

[@rickowen.]

yeah, i feel like when they introduce big poi, epic tends to just abandon after the season ends, it be feeling like a ghost town.

[@agentblade04]

i feel like a lot of good points are made and i definitely feel tagt ch5 is going in a good direction but the number 5 is my biggest issue, if we keep getting year long chapters is makes chapters oversaturated instead of big events with new maps since we know we have to say goodbye to the map soon, i feel like a good idea would be to mush the basic parts pf every map together and slowly introduce the more complex pois as the chapter progresses over about 1.5-2 years

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

The problem is the maps after CH2 were far too plain to deserve 2 years lmao. If we had 2 years on CH3, I woulda never played Fortnite again.

[@BEASTMODE-mv3gs]

I started in Ch2 S2 and developed an immediate relationship with the map and various other details that made it such accessible game for me especially in quarantine. I continued to develop this attachment despite the eventual decline of the chapter and now that I’ve been through 3 others in the span of close to three years my preference has become more distinguished than ever. I feel the new content that comes with a chapter has lost its identity, that being its particularly special feeling, much like many other elements of the game. Hopefully someone at epic will ascend to a higher position and recognize the true desires of the players.

[@Ikcatcher]

The thing that pissed me off about shorter chapters is that the lore just went down the damn drain. In just 4 seasons, chapter 3 completely fucked the entire Seven premise with zero build up or resolution

[@rjstudios742]

I think they should make it uncertain. They should go back and focus on the story like in Chapter’s 1 & 2. I think how long it takes to complete a story should be how long a chapter is

[@energydragon1147]

I hate short chapters, theres no reason to enjoy the BR map because then the next chapter will be around the corner and a new map 🤦 We need longer Chapters like Chapter 1 and Chapter 2

[@gnr8jj]

man c1 s4-10 was already perfect in terms of map progression. good pacing, not overwhelming yet not lackluster. even with the features, there's a lot of things that kinda makes the game too saturated and overwhelming

[@Tardo04]

Long chapters give time to tell the story of the chapter. Short ones make it to where we get new content more often

[@Matiasfv]

wait? maps used to lasted two years???? I started playing during ch4, I wish that map lasted two years, it was so good compared to this new one, it also looked so much better visually with the more colorful art direction.

[@Shadow_407]

You ain’t a og don’t talk to me

[@Matiasfv]

@@Shadow_407 I'm glad I'm not, after playing chapter og I can tell all sad fortnite players are just nostalgia addicts... so that was the "peak" of fortnite for "og's" huh. Snore fest of a chapter that was, and to think sprint or mantling didn't exist back then ughhh The longest 30 days in fortnite that you could only pretend you loved it but was just serotonin for cheap nostalgia, I barely touched the game during that month.

[@No-us1qz]

Chapter 4 is the worst chapter ch5 is way better by miles

[@shalopai228]

@@No-us1qzchapter 5 sucks. The most boring chapter ever

[@Jordanthecool7]

@@No-us1qzch 3 was the worst chapter

[@Muicheerio]

well back then 2 years felt like a long time and now 2 years just happen in the blink of an eye so in my opinion maybe they should go back to making seasons 2 years long

[@Litwolf9]

I remember chapter 1 and 2 to a T but the rest are faded due to the fact that they are shorter

[@Flamin64]

I just want the old running animations back :(

[@DustGundam]

I liked C4 alot since it was the first Chapter I played from Seaosn 1 to OG

[@PracticallyBlind]

Finally some says this I hate 4 season chapters so MUCH I want to get attached to the map like chapter 2 again

[@kingrex8378]

so glad i stumbled across your channel, wish epic would too

[@frogmouth2]

Chapter 3 started out with probably the best map, sans daily bugle only nosedive into the worst map with all of the POIs being removed aside from risky reels.

[@HZWY_Records]

Ch3 s2 was so good, it only became boring when they decided to ruin it with the lack of updates

[@frogmouth2]

@@HZWY_Records ya ch3, s2 was good. It’s just what happened after that when they started removing all the good POIs from the map, the season after.

[@ro_man1a.]

Mongraal shouting "TACO TIME" always gets me 😂 Keep up the good work, definitely deserves a subscribe 🗣

[@thevavanz]

hello, that's a great vid :D some points about it to get it more perfect, when you make cinematics in rediffusion mode make your graphics all epics to get it more cool ;) and use a controller to not get a terrible view ^^ And its been like 3 years I stopped to follow the fortnite storyline, but as I know Donald Mustard wouldn't want it to finish like that and he is not okay with how epic works actually on Fortnite ;) Thats one of the reasons he quitted first I think Nice vid continue like that :D

[@Caitykorn]

I think 1 and 1/2 year would be the perfect length. But I suppose it really depends on how I feel about the chapter, I loved CH3 so it ending so soon was rough for me and something I never quite got over. But with CH4 I spent pretty much the entire Chapter eagerly waiting for it to end. But regardless 1 1/2 year and six seasons is the perfect length I feel, long enough for it to feel like the title of a new chapter actually means something again, but not so long that it overstays its welcome.

[@brandonrhys21]

Looking back, I really like the year long chapters when it comes to map changes and now, they feature an OG and a new map so 2 maps. However, the longer chapters have slow biome changes but a better story. I'd prefer 6 seasons or 1.5 or even 1.3 years roughly

[@ThePandemonium]

I think a year and a half long chapter might be worth experimenting with to see how it could feel cuz I think it would give players a good amount of time to grow attached to a map and locations while giving each season enough breathing room in terms of quality over quantity content that the seasons could really start to feel good again

[@taqresu5865]

In retrospect, I think the longer Chapters helped me grow more attached to them, and I think Chapters should have a sense if escalation. Starting off relatively tame and grow more intense with the story and the map changes. Which is why Chapter 1 is my favorite. Chapter 2 felt like it had some pacing issues. C2S1 is the longest Season to date, being 128 days long, almost double the length of Chapter 1 seasons. And things kinda escalated until the Galactus Event, but then it kinda slowed down again until the alien invasion. And the Season 8 was disappointing because the event hyped up some massive map changes... that didn't show up in-game. Chapter 3 started off strong and ended in a whimper. After the Collision event, showcasing the climactic showdown between the Seven and IO, we got a quiet season, and the Chapter ended with a lackluster event that felt like it was completely rushed. It felt like we were missing the first hslf of the event, the confrontation with the Herald. And Chapter 4, well it was very disappointing. Not a single live event or significant story update. It was just content for the sake of content. Even the grand heist at the end of C4S4, the one we spent the whole season prepping for, occurred off screen, not even a cinematic for the time travel. If you want to see a chapter that's too short, just look at Chapter OG Season OG (yes, that's how the game classifies Season OG, just look at the item descriptionfrom of that Season's cosmetics). 4 weeks is way to short-lived, but at least the event was good, by being a retool of the original End Event. Now we have Chapter 5. I haven't grown attached to a single Chapter 5 POI. But at least there is some story going on, even if it's self contained within the particular Season, like the war of the Olympians. And I do appreciate the approaching dust cloud, reminding me of the C1S7 Iceberg. In conclusion, I think it's a combination of Chapter length, story (or lack thereof), and Seasonal content that makes or breaks a chapter.

[@Sleepyfye]

chapters really just feel like a new game when they come out really the only reason i continue to play today or really came back, they are doing it right with fornite tbh

[@montagemik]

Outdated by now is the Idea it needs to be a completely different map every chapter. 6 seasons per chapter is perfect, and keeping the base map for maybe 2 chapters is perfectly fine too , just Allows for more map changes throughout the chapter or chapters.. gradually changing areas over time. Both the chapter 3 & 4 maps had huge potential for further improvement, but both chapters ended just when the maps were finally getting good variations. 🤷

[@ProfessionalFloridian]

No 8 is good enough.

[@ClickerDashGaming]

Its hard to decide, I mean if the chapter sucks then short if its great then long, but also progressing to different chapters like ch6 just feels weird.

[@Null82085]

I really don’t like the 1 year chapters, mainly because it feels like whenever I finally get used to a chapter and finally start to love it, it’s gone. (I miss you chapter 4)

[@coarel2788]

i think the main issue with chapter 2 was that the map changes were just removed after the season. only a few minor changes stayed, while the pois that changed just got reverted back so nothing built on top of each other. chapter 1 worked as a longer chapter because each map change stuck around and they all worked together for the entire chapter. also chapter 3 and chapter 4 just went by too quick and they didn't leave a meaningful impression. it feels like we barely get to know a map before it gets reset. i think 1 year chapters are too short, but 2 year chapters are too long, so something in between would be perfect.

[@R0WANTED]

I just love the feeling I had stepping into chapter 2 so I guess I prefer 2 year chapters I just think the newer ones don’t have the same feel as chapter 1/2

[@Micah33088]

Personally I think the 1 year long chapters ultimately make them feel forgettable in comparison to the first 2. I feel like chapter 2’s approach would work completely fine if you just moved the new biome changes to the sides of the map so you can keep them after the season. When you think about it they only added 4 new biomes so just don’t remove them and it’s fine.

[@PixelShiftss]

I mean I don’t mind 1 year chapters, especially with og at the end of the year, it’s a nice mix of new and old

[@basilplushie2534]

I hate the OG season It's like hey looks at things that we did that work so well we are never doing that again lol

[@randomviewer7762]

middle ground, year and a half chapters... have the first "season" be a "here is a map with a new big feature and a small handful of locations". Then the next season introduce another "big" location or 2 and maybe some smaller things (hero/villain bases, vampire castle, etc.) while starting with a light story that evolves into more (think C1S5's roadtrip plot w/drift and the gang), then start having bigger updates after about 2-3 seasons of smaller stuff

[@rohe1790]

In my opinion chapters should last 4-7 seasons depending on crowd reception (if people don’t like it then cut it short, etc)

[@Eldoraan]

The time devs spend on building a whole new map could be spent on giving us more LTMs and In-game events each season. I would be fine with a 2 year cycle as long as we were getting more fun content updates in between.

[@Muhlads]

If Chapter 3 was executed as intended it would’ve went in this order: Chapter 3 Season 1 Chapter 3 Season 2 Chapter 3 Season 3 Chapter 4 Season 1 Chapter 4 Season 4 Chapter 4 Season 3 Chapter 4 Season 2 Chapter 3 Season 4 Chapter 4 Season 5 would have probably taken place after Paradise, then Chapter “4” would’ve started, and I personally would have loved it if things had gone the way it was intended.

[@Rhyciz]

Without Donald Mustard, everything went to shit.

[@KwikBR]

it's more likely that chapter 3 season 3 would have been season 5, and chapter 4 season 1 and 4 were intended for chapter 4

[@awesomenessx15]

Before I watch the video: Yes, 100%. Donald Mustard repeatedly told us that the uslamd is the main character. Growing with the island for more than a year gives us time to get attached to each island. Also, now that each chapter is a year ling, we all know the current map isn't going to stick around, so why should we get attached. Not knowing when the current island is going to end is one of the best parts of each island. I remember the hype in Ch2 S8 when there were rumors and "end" themed cosmetics/emotes and people weren't sure if Epic was trolling us or if they were being serious.

[@GTAgeezer]

Please can you do a review of Ch3 S3

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

To me, I saw the chapters as a way to progress both the story and the game design. A chapter is not that interesting without both in my opinion, and when they happen too often and the story gets toned down, I start to lose interest in the new chapters. To me, they aren’t any more important than a season change, but just add a little more, even though there are lots of changes no matter the chapter. I thought that Fortnite was going to actually create a cohesive and short story that would end by like chapter 5 or something, and then they would conclude the story and then do whatever they want from there. I guess my expectations reflected how long I would be able to stand the game considering I’ve played since chapter 1 season 5. I suppose I’m just an outdated audience, and epic is willing to milk the chapters for all they are worth.

[@GurkisDev]

The problem with Chapter 2 was that each season replaced the previous map changes so almost nothing stuck around apart from the season 1 poi's, which after 2 years got boring. Lets also not forget that season 1 and 2 were abnormally long. If done correctly a full 10 season chapter can be great.

[@funtimefreddude]

I feel like a chapter is like 20 days because time flies so fast but I believe that chapters from season 1-4 are like 120 days

[@zp1405]

hear me out, the 2 year length but each season is half a year, which still means 4 seasons, but they have a longer amount of time to work on features for next season or updates for the current season

[@jempangaming5725]

Nah just make the chapter. 5 or 6 season that enough not to short not to long and only make the updates and map changes better

[@zerozeroone4424]

As someone who started out in Ch3 S2, i LOVE the way we get 2 consecutive seasons, before having an entirely new map for the next season. It just feels right to me. Plus i think the map additions are substantial enough to make the game feel different while also being small enough to still keep the same flow and feeling of the previous one. Personally the only one i didn't care for was the one in CH3 S4, that chrome paint all over the place felt god awful. But CH4 and 5 feel great i'd say.

[@NotTheDragon837]

I really dont like the one year long chapters. I just never grow attatched to fhe maps anymors. They dont really mean anything now. I cant even really remember the names of most POIs if the last two chaoters like I can with the first two. Nit to mention the real lack of story now. The last real story we had was in chaptee 3 So far this chapter has just been "Peely's gone missing! What will we do!" Then suddenly a hand pops out of the ground for no reason with Pandora's box, making gods appear on the island. The onoy semblance of story we git was apparently theres someone dangerous named "That Wanderer" but that doesnt matter right now, becausr now a sandstorm hit the island for some reason. The seasons dont really feel connected anymore, like they used to. Because they try to add so much content but restricted them selves to fitting it all within a year. If Chapters were at least a year and a half we could get up to at least 6 seasons to really connect the story. But the devs don't care as much about the BR story any more which sucks. I was so invested in the story back in chapter 1 and 2 but now I don't even really bother paying attention to what scraps of a story they try to make now.

[@Ronen-808]

I feel like I’ll always prefer the two year chapters, but that doesn’t mean I hate the one year chapters. The two year chapters just had more iconic poi’s, and I always felt like there was a place I could land or something to keep the game new and exciting. Plus, the content updates were always enjoyable, and added a lot to the game. Nowadays it’s just a new item, maybe a gun, and some patches to glitches

[@_Celestial]

I'd say they could fix the 2 year long chapters if they release a chapter with say 7-10 POI's at launch and work on weapons for all of season 1 & 2 maybe stick in 1 or 2 poi's for season 2 but then start replacing locations like seasons 4-X and the last few seasons of chapter 2. I do get year short chapters are beter for epics model. They need to keep people stimulated for longer now than ever since their game is rather old and because of the short form media making everyones attention span lower than the floors in their own house and because most of the live event staff that would probably help out on map changes every now and then were moved to the find it in fortnite modes And the fact that they fired 900 employees a bit ago. Fortnute never truly will be the same with all of thoes things taken into account but I feel like a year and a half chapters could honestly be perfect. It gives people time to like the map better and make more memories on it Plus with 1½ yeae long chapters that means one chapter can start in december like normal while the next can start in summer when all their target audience has no school. If they were to do this i'd say 7 seasons would be good since the 2 chapters we have had 7 seasons they have both been christmas themed and summer themed (ik aliens wasnt summer themed but they had that whole cosmic summer event so same thing really) Speaking of season 7 we need more things like the inflate-a-bull That thing was fun as hell we need more stuff like it

[@dannymclennan1947]

In my opinion yes it’s one of the reason I stoped playing since every year the had to make a completely new map makes the seasons fell rushed also if you like the story line they kind of just abandoned it usually for the first 2 chapters they had one story line and then kinda switched it but not a lot like just like a new problem or something and now since it’s every year it also fells rushed and the keep trying to one up the graphics every chapter and not the graphics for the skins so it just looks goofy maybe 1/5 years would be fine but in my opinion 1 year is to short

[@HaxorensBomb]

They should experiment with 1.5-year chapters, since the longer the chapter, the more love it will get and the more effort Epic can put into it, especially since 1 year is too short but (for Epic at least) 2 years is too long.

[@salomonjr8014]

Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 map were memorable cause I grow up with them the other Chapter not much since they usually gone before I can enjoy them 1 year not enough to enjoy the whole Chapter island

[@bonzillafilmsgamingsreviews]

They've confirmed that they're now abandoning Live Events for Fortnite Festival, Racing, & Lego. Which is sad 😔

[@pietamojzesza3259]

Even thinking that chapter 5 can have 10 seasons is terrifying

[@Goldblasterblaze]

I wished the map chapters were a bit longer. I have so many memories and feelings of nostalgia for the chapters 4 map because Ive played so much of that map. Chapter 5 is not there yet (It might though). It needs me than a year for me I think.

[@pu5ple551]

i think a year and a half seasons are perfect, considering the xp requirement for players to get everything they bought the battle for it seems like a well reasoned amount of time so that players dont have to worry abt grinding there ass off or finding some crazy xp glitch just to get everything they paid for

[@_stonksIG_]

I feel they should do 3 seasons + the 1 month OG season during December

[@Aifybejsirbgjk]

The 2 year maps are most definitely the best ones and have the most nostalgia factor to them but I think the best approach would be a year and a half chapter with 6 season it’s not too many and not too few it gives fornite just enough to build a story around the game without it being to complicated or not interesting at all like chapter 4 or 5. If Fortnite keeps up with a new chapter every year we will be in chapter ten of Fortnite in 2029 with a chapter 7 OG short season at the end of the year

[@SirLuigi]

I get 1 year chapters may be nice for most people but honestly, I'm getting kinda sick of it. It leaves no surprise when we know it will always end at December and they'd have to keep pulling reasons for why the island gets wrecked and then we randomly go OG again. I want to see at least chapters be a bit longer or at least vary in length with a minimum of 6 seasons or 1 year and 5/6 months as a middle ground.

[@AmalGum001]

Imagine if Fortnite made live events function like major orders in Helldivers 2, where our victory or defeat will actually impact how things play out. Such as Collision for example, if we as a community didnt destroy the crystals then we lose and the map is destroyed.

[@romansanchez2277]

In my opinion, all I want from Fortnite is just another storyline season a season that just at least pay some attention to the original storyline. That’s all I want a season that at least acknowledges the past storyline.

[@VladdyDaddy45]

ngl, i want the 2 year chapters back nomatter what. When ch 2 came out, it felt amazing because it pretty much was a complete rework of the original game, after all it was expected to be because it had 2 years to figure out what they were gonna do which was plenty of time, so when ch 3 came out it felt even better, and yes the map problems presented did exist, but the thing is the game felt extremely fresh. So fresh in fact, I get nostalgic for ch 3. im not kidding. The way how the game played, the aesthetics changed, and how the weapons and movement was new was so fucking refreshing and made me play to level 200 in the first season, and then season 2 launched, which wasn't as good as s1, but still pretty damn good. they introduced new movement, guns, and the blimps made the map feel extremely cinematic and were a definite welcome change. Season 3 slowed down a bit, and it was alright. Season 4 sucked because it just felt like they were dedicating resources to something else, and they were. That new thing being ch 4 and when I learned we were gonna be getting a new chapter, I was NOT happy. after 2 years of waiting we finally get a good and fresh map and epic just has to ruin it and try and replicate ch 3's success while missing exactly what made it special, which was the wait. Chapter 4 wound up being extremely mid and didnt even have a que on launch day because of how mid it was, and that's all due to the fact that they tried to completely revamp the game in a matter of a single year while still developing the game. I honestly couldn't tell you what happened in season 3 or 4 of ch 4 because honestly i dont remember anything about it, again due to how unspecial it was. Epic realized their mistake and proceeded to release the OG season, which was special because of how much everyone wanted the old map back, and it was in my opinion, the best fortnite season ever. Not due to nostalgia, but because the season was just plain fun, and it showed, because there was a que for like the first 4 days of the season. They released ch 5 a month later and it was alright, the train was cool but it was nothing special. Why? Because they didnt wait 2 years.

[@butterminecart]

I hope that we get a plot twist and this chapter is 2 years long but I highly doubt they will do that sadly 😢 one could wish

[@SimoneXD]

I personally think that for now, the chapter 5 map is doing what other chapters should've done (except chapter 1)

[@jplikesgames]

I miss when they make changes on the map during the season

[@snatchingcareers4681]

There was a nice long chapter I believe around late 2019-2021. I liked that chapter and grew to love the map. If we kept longer chapters we’d have more attachment.