Are Horses OP?

[@Derpinator01]

It's important for potential horse players to remember that although the base HP stat is decent, the HP reduction from a broken limb is both permanent due to the lighter bone density of the legs and guaranteed to lead to an eventual game over due to issues with their blood circulation since they have a glitch where the hooves are necessary to help pump blood around the body. This is in stark contrast to many other player factions, where broken limbs can be an acceptable risk to ensure overall survival.

[@Elandrianthetrue]

True, a broken limb being a instant Game Over is a pretty big weakness.

[@krankarvolund7771]

That's why you have to kill horses with legs injury? I thought people only did that because the horse could not work and was useless ^^'

[@Nibiri3304]

not a bug, iirc it was an intentional nerf done around the time horses were first added to the game

[@canox6017]

@@krankarvolund7771 Yes, a broken leg can be fatal on a horse. I think with the advancements on medicine they can heal some injuries but if it was a for example a racehorse it will never be able to run a race again.

[@some-one-else]

What's worse for horse players in particular compared to other equines is that this trade-off would be a pretty good one if a broken bone is likely to eventually kill you anyway, as is the case with most builds. One of the few times where this is a bad trade-off is when your build has access to medical care, so it's a terrible downside for a domesticated build like the horse. Unfortunately the perks from this trade-off are likely a factor in why horses were domesticated in the first place. It's really a no win situation. It's not a bad trade-off for Zebra players though. Especially in Africa, breaking a leg is almost certain to get you killed anyway, so you might as well get some benefit out of that risk.

[@joshuasims5421]

7:54 one reason that steppe nomads like the Mongols were so effective in warfare was this move, the Parthian shot, firing an arrow backwards off a horse. It’s cool to know that both horse and rider were high-tier for the same reason, the ability to attack while fleeing.

[@WednesdayShortsDance]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKnXfGadiMyWgtE Finally it's here

[@Supergolem12345]

Even though I think horse archery like Parthian shots or swarm tactics is amazing, I prefer the shock tactics like lance charge of heavy cavalry.

[@crayon294]

@@Supergolem12345 bedouins in the last century would use long guns off horse and camel back

[@ScottyShaw]

@@Supergolem12345 The scariest part is that a lot of cavalry could switch between both modes 😱 Good luck catching cavalry archers... and stopping heavy cavalry, because if their charge falters, their steeds can kick and bite 😱

[@brianmiller1077]

@@crayon294 I'm reminded of when Lawrence first meets Prince Ali in "Lawrence of Arabia".

[@doctorcis3510]

I feel like they left something out by not including the Mule. It may be a cheese-build for one off casual play, but it does combine the best of Horse and Donkey.

[@kennyholmes5196]

There's also its' echo version, the Hinny, in which the parent player species are swapped from the mule. But I feel like he's gonna cover hybrid players in their own separate video.

[@peterknutsen3070]

I’m also curious about how horses differ from ponies. I sometimes get the impression that ponies have some valuable stats or special abilities.

[@Toonrick12]

Problem with that build is that nearly all are locked out of the reproduction quest line, thus being unable to get any rank better than C. A few human mains have claimed that a few mules have gotten an A rank, but they haven't been accurately confirmed.

[@rhokesh4391]

@@peterknutsen3070 Ponies get the extra ability Headstrong, which allows it to ignore commands from human players that horses would be vulnerable to ;)

[@anderled6219]

@@peterknutsen3070 Ponies are literally just small horses though. The only thing that separates a pony from a horse is height, with the maximum size for a pony being 14.2 hands.

[@GreenJuiceGuy27]

You forgot the unlockable mule build that humans have unlocked. Mules take and magnify all the best traits of horse builds and donkey builds and mitigate several specific weaknesses of each pure build. Consider covering mules in a "Are hybrids OP?" video.

[@renewagain6956]

I second this.

[@filipbitala2624]

While it would definetly be cool, it is kind of bad idea, as none of these op hybrid builds can finish the main quest

[@GreenJuiceGuy27]

@@filipbitala2624 true, but still fun though

[@ulalaFrugilega]

Got my vote!

[@gayatritripathisaxena7224]

Yeah imagine being sent to the select character option because mule

[@xLoLRaven]

I would REALLY suggest not saying Donkeys are poorly optimized. There is a reason farmers often keep a donkey with their sheep/goat herds. They're specifically used as guard animals for a reason.

[@katarinawikholm5873]

They’re smart and have speced into the surveillance skill tree

[@leroyrenedanjou3931]

Least delusional donkey player + ratio

[@catgodswim]

@@leroyrenedanjou3931 i wouldnt have been able to tell you werent serious without the twitter mark thank you very much

@@catgodswim What twitter mark?

[@player_8008]

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[@cpMetis]

I think mentioning the donkey's value as a party member went underrated. While horses are relatively easier to understand and work with in a team comp, a donkey properly incorporated into a comp with a human farmer is INCREDIBLE. They can essentially fill the roles of dogs but BETTER in almost every way except for ease of care. But if the benefit is so large, that issue becomes less important. Horses will always be the famous duo with humans, but donkeys' value in an ACTUALLY WIDELY RELEVANT comp in the modern meta is something that I'd expect to see give them much more staying power. Horses are a fun build humans like to play with, but practically that's only a luxury nowadays. The comp they became famous in is no longer meta-relevant. It's hardly a rogue strat.

[@Cuestrupaster]

Want also to point out that Donkeys are better suited to protect herds than dogs...

[@peggedyourdad9560]

Also, can't you still ride a donkey? I'm sure I'd be harder to achieve than a horse but is it still doable?

[@SnackLive]

@@peggedyourdad9560 yes, it's pretty common to do so

[@ZBritt92]

While some people might think this is metagaming, I feel like a horse ass multiclass build might be incredible. The strength and size of a horse combined with the agility, intelligence and surefootedness of an ass. We could even call it something cool, like, "ass-horse"

[@GreenlandRobot]

Donkey's are a team buff, they make every herd better by having one present.

[@lucasa1849]

Donkeys also have an extra perk. Their eyes are positioned differently making it so they can see all four of their feet. This gives them an advantage in rocky, challenging, mountenous terrein.

[@KefkaJr]

That’s so cool, I didn’t know that

[@cow8101]

Were you a donkey before because how did you know what they can see? I'm not trying to start a fight just curious

[@pi3man252]

Yeah pretty much horses and zebras are physically better for the kill donkeys are basically just assholes and will fight anything within their territory.

[@nova_supreme8390]

You mean advantage in aiming their kicks due to larger vision cone? This would increase their accuracy and critical hit chance quite a bit.

[@God-ch8lq]

donkeys are also grapplers their main combo is using their bite to pin someone, and then literally curbstomping them, this bypasses their relatively low power stat

[@hyunsungjung4941]

It is said that one legendary donkey had such a high intelligence stat that it was able to unlock the 'talk' special ability. He did this so well that he managed to team up with an Ogre main, who previously everyone thought was a powerful but solitary build in the swamp biome. With this OP combo, he even allegedly defeated the cryptid 'Dragon' build. What a madlad.

[@marymccann3500]

He's talking about vanilla Outside, Modded content doesn't count

[@God-ch8lq]

let's discuss the ogre here, ok: ogres are great apes, tho theyre closest to orangutans, they weigh up to 450 kilos and are twice as strong as a silverback, the ogre's child takes 8 years to reach maturity, so the mother makes a sturdy shelter from trees and mud bricks they are well-adapted to the swamp, being semi-aquatic and having incredible lung capacity, an ogre can hold his breath for over 20 minutes ogres are omnivores and feed mostly off of plant matter, fish, and especially insects, they build bug traps to catch mosquitos, and make mud bricks to build shelters ogres have much thicker skin than other apes, allowing them to shrug off insect stings and bites north american ogres often have to fend off gator attacks, which they do by bashing the gator with a makeshift club, they often eat the gator's eggs and children to minimize threat for their own defenseless young ogres swim surprisingly well depsite sinking like a rock, as they essentially run underwater ogres are both bipedal and quadrupedal, and switch between the two stances when needed they run on all fours when in knee-deep water, and walk bipedally on land ogres have a 2300 psi biteforce and mostly use it to crush the skulls of catfish with a single bite, tho they have been known to grapple gators and deliver the good old cranial hug, their mouths can open like scp-096 ogres are reclusive and once matured, the ogre will leave his mother, but will still meet with her daily like ornagutans ogre ears are adapted to hear stuff just as well underwater and on land, and they have a secondary set of transparent eyelids

[@SillySpaceMonkey]

Forget about defeating the dragon... in the tale we were told as boys, the donkey so impressed the dragon, that the dragon wished to be made its bride!

[@greenwave819]

pick me pick me

[@SillySpaceMonkey]

@@greenwave819 #DVDSquad

[@mistermoneyman300]

I just want to note that the donkey build has the highest resolve among the equine build. They are extremely hard to scare away. They also have a pretty decent intimidation skill. This is why humans can use them as a battle summon.

[@velikitata3863]

Dont talk like that...life aint a game

[@mistermoneyman300]

@@velikitata3863 the game is called outside its the entire point of tierzoo.

[@kamikaze3124]

@@velikitata3863 did you miss the entire point of the channel?

[@canox6017]

@@velikitata3863 bruh

[@noteansylvan6051]

@@velikitata3863 wow. What a stick in the mud.

[@damascusraven]

My family used to own horses. On one hand they're insanely tough creatures and can be incredibly smart. On the other hand, never underestimate how stupid a horse can be, and the many stupid ways they can hurt/kill themselves.

[@85blutch]

Works for humans too though...

[@deathhog]

Horses are so stupid, because they're so smart. They're naturally curious animals that like to examine their environment. That process of examination can be a problem when you are a thousand pounds and scare easily.

[@batfurs3001]

My favourite game to play with stable staff at the stable I go to a lot is "what's the dumbest way a horse got injured/killed this year" So far this year it's a horse getting so incredibly intimidated by a pigeon, who had set up a nest in its stall in the couple hours the horse was grazing on the field, that he tried to escape the stall, and eventually succeeded by breaking the fucking door. He had lots of small cuts and bruises and took a near lethal amount of psychic damage, oh and he also broke the door beyond repair. So he had to be moved. The pigeon successfully raised 2 babies.

[@j.a.g.8689]

Agreed, loose a horse in the eye and that's all you need to know

[@moistnar]

@@deathhog you can put a sheet over a horse's head and it will lie down and starve to death because it thinks it's asleep. I love horses but they are so dumb

[@beast_boy97]

An addendum to what you mentioned at the end - the horse (Equus ferus) indeed originated in North America about one million years ago, then migrated to Eurasia around 800,000 years ago. All horses still in the Americas went extinct by the beginning of the Holocene. Modern horses come from a population native to the Eurasian steppe, where they were domesticated by humans some time around 3500 BCE. They were originally smaller and stockier in build, more similar to Przewalski's horse or the Tarpan. Today's domesticated horses have been selectively bred for strength, speed, agility, intelligence, and aesthetics, depending on what breed you're talking about. So to be fair to donkeys and zebras, they are probably a bit more comparable stat-wise to a true wild horse.

[@dugilee4236]

exactly, horse came from Eurasia. I was confused, because we have history with horse way before columbus did.

[@poliestotico]

THANKS for the clarification!!! I was bedazzled by tier zoo making such a blunder, but he ment this, thanks for clearing it up

[@fallendeus]

Considering the fact that he literally has taken animal history allll the way back to it's roots many times in videos, it's safe to say he is talking about their evolution over time. Yeah, they were domesticated and integrated into the eco system in Europe but they weren't a native species anywhere else but managed to integrate in the places they went.

[@imablisy]

@@fallendeus he says horses, not their distant ancestor. He even talks about how horses are doing better in Africa than zebra as invasive species. Also, even if you assume he means the horses evolution, saying a horse is invasive is extremely disingenuous because this happened 2.5 million years ago. Tier zoo is no doubt more informed than most of the commenters here including myself, but he does not know literally everything about all animals nor is he infallible. He starts off this video with a correction about sweating lol. It’d be great if he pinned a comment because I think this might be the biggest factual inaccuracy in this vid.

[@Ziiphyr]

I had to look this up to double check. They evolved in NA but the domesticated horses we have today came from the Caucasus Steppe. Huge difference.

[@gordon.sarratt]

Considering the strong kick attack, and the absolutely incredible mobility that you can gain from a horse build, it’s pretty clear why the devs won’t allow a carnivorous build of the equine faction

[@CroakerX]

The kick attack is better for running away than for attacking. Unless you're thinking of doing a horse ambush!

[@Brugar18]

@@CroakerX the fact that horses are able to traverse long distance it would be a huge advantage to them if they were carnivours

[@vaiyt]

There used to be a faction of hooved predators (it wasn't part of the ungulate guild but an entirely separate thing), but the guild eventually emptied out because they couldn't compete with carnivores.

[@God-ch8lq]

@@CroakerX donkeys can kick forwards just as well as their backwards kick, and they combo by grabbing u with a bite, then kicking u while u cannolt move

[@milktobo7418]

Horses have poor control around their bodies and at ground level. Once meat is dead it doesn't move and equine would die-out because of scavengers. Unlike grass, meat isn't almost everywhere. I.E. They would die out faster than cheatah.

[@LockedFlea]

I’d say horses are pretty decent, and the fact that human players giving them basically free food and water is an insane buff

[@PontiacMusic]

Made a new song. Whats yalls honest rating?

[@voidboi2831]

Well that’s less of a built in buff from the devs, but rather the human players giving them loot so that they can join teams.

[@pixelated1968]

@@PontiacMusic 0/10 it’s garbage asf. Consider dropping music and focus instead on something else more lucrative

[@aaronking2020]

Ban humans

[@WednesdayShortsDance]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKnXfGadiMyWgtE Finally it's here

[@JunkFlashify]

a small addition to the donkey class i learned from talking with a donkey tamer. Donkeys originated from and are suited for rocky and mountaineous terrain hence why they dont run from predators but rather stand their ground. if they were to just run and reposition to land critical hits with their kick ability, they'd be more likely to suffer from lethal environmental damage such as falling off a cliff. It isnt that they are inert due stubbornness it is just the calm and steady approach to improve survivability in the terrain they originate from, this likely is one of the reasons they tend to bite as a defensive move because there might be no where to run for repositioning. I cant properly compare them to horses or zebras but its just something that should be considered in my opinion since its often overlooked because nowadays they are used as support in all kinds of environments instead of the one they evolutionary adapted to.

[@God-ch8lq]

yeah, another thing is that their signature move is biting the target to restrain its motion, then curbstomping it much less likely to fall off a cliff this way

[@RuFi0000000]

I didn't know that, neat. hey thanks.

[@rexbababa]

Nice tip, I may consider donkey for my next play through now. Many players have told me have mistaken me for an ass in my current play through anyways, so I probably have the skills already.

[@molybdaen11]

They also work very well against canines (like wild dogs , wolfes or foxes) and will chase and kill them. This makes them 24h quarddogs which only require grass and water.

[@liamharper465]

@@God-ch8lq Donkeys are the only equine grapplers

[@oxan7594]

Many points over the Donkey build were missed. Specifically, their “Moxie” ability. Donkeys are able to ignore all debuffs caused by intimidation from other players, making them capable of rushing down players who believe they are too scary for an equine to attack. While they may do the least amount of damage compared to other equines, donkeys deal the fastest damage. They also don’t get fear debuffs from nearby corpses. While they may default to solo play, donkeys make excellent team players. While most equine players will only protect either themselves or others of their build, donkeys do not discriminate and will fight for players that are outside of their species, thanks to their high intelligence. For these reasons, it can even be suggested that donkeys are the most survivable of the equines.

[@melianatara]

You tell em Shrek.

[@vizualedit0r481]

These points are included in the intelligence stat, hence it being so high.

[@megabladechronicles962]

Donkeys also tend to have more stamina than horses which is why they are more commonly used as beasts of burden, and in some places, they are used to guard livestock against wolves and coyotes. In fact, donkeys are known for attacking any animal that resembles a dog, including domestic ones.

[@jonadabtheunsightly]

"Donkeys live a long time. None of you has ever seen a dead donkey."

[@CollinMcLean]

@@megabladechronicles962 True although I'd argue that would be a point against the Donkey as the domestic dog is an important human companion class.

[@Randomdudefromtheinternet]

There’s also a more recent hybrid build created by the human rancher specialization: the mule. Imagine mixing the stamina, strength, and HP of a horse and the Sure-Footed feat from donkeys, you get a mount great for moving across difficult terrain that doubles as a great beast of burden, and not to forget the bonus to damage against canines also gained from donkeys. Such is the power of the mule that the devs nerfed them by making them sterile (although some data miners have found a way of allowing mules to gain the maternity side quest, but the resulting offspring is always a duplicate avatar of the mother’s). In summary, the mule is a great support build that will help many other players across their many walkthroughs.

[@squid356]

horses are pretty strong but they also come with the 1000 ways to die debuff, where domesticated horses will find the most obscure and insane ways to accidentally off themselves

[@Nparalelo]

Broke a leg - dead Drank too cold water - dead Spent just one day without eating - dead A glass cannon if I ever saw one

[@barbiquearea]

@@Nparalelo Not so much a glass cannon but a high maintenance powerhouse. The problem is their match-up with humans have spoiled them to the point where it is harder for many of them to survive without human team-ups.

[@SephirothRyu]

Fun fact: the reason that chariots were used in earlier civilizations was because horses cooping with humans had not yet up-spec'd their sizes enough to be able to carry a military-equipped human in battle. Once coop equines got large enough to do this, you began seeing extra large horses which were capable of operating through a battle while carrying a fit human with ~50 pounds of armor and whatever their weapons weighed. Some jousting specific armor reached ~100 pounds, but this (as well as the larger, specialized lances used) was used in specialized accolade quests and not on military battlefields where stamina is actually required. While a bit of an off tangent, many humans have a tendency to think their forebearers were dumb and primitive, but make no mistake that the armor they wore (at least to battlefields) was actually made to be quite flexible by using proper joint placement and such (something that replica makers are often very bad at, leaving you with show armor that is shiny but can't even let you bend over without digging into you). But yeah, back to horses. This upsizing they took on for greater load bearing capacity may have exacerbated some of their already borderline min-maxed choices. Comparing natural builds to things like Clydesdales is thus not a 1:1 match-up.

[@barbiquearea]

@@SephirothRyu Actually even during the era of chariots horses were still ridden solo, but mostly for scouting or raiding rather than direct combat. And outside of combat they were still made good modes of transportation because riding is better than walking even on a small horse. I don't know if it was a fluke of evolution or due to human breeding practices that have given horses flat backs that are able to maintain their horizontal position even while sprinting at high speeds. Because this has made them excellent mounts for humans.

[@mollof7893]

@@Nparalelo Eat too much grass - dead Puking - dead

[@giantWario]

While the fact that donkeys are stubborn and solitary does make them harder to team up with, their higher intelligence actually makes them much better team members than the horse for the humans who do manage to add them to their party. They are much more versatile and easily understand what humans want from them. And while it's harder to add them to your party, once they are in your party they are very loyal. Their better senses combined with their intelligence and poise make them much more unlikely to accidentally attack a teammate like horses do all the frigging time. Horses have mostly been used for PvP or fast travel by humans but donkeys? They have been used for everything. I still agree that as a build in general horses are better than donkeys but I gotta say that as a human main, I'd actually rate the donkeys higher as a support build than the horses.

[@jhonthecat5061]

I have five horses and to be honest I want a donkey so bad, also have three goats and can confirm their intelligence is That low

[@SeiShinCasios]

God I just love this comment section. Bravos!

[@alzhanvoid]

Donkey is the epitome of Jack of All Trades.

[@Giaphaige]

TZ neglects to mention another stat in the donkeys favour, sound damage. A donkeys bray is extremely loud, and used to keep contact with other solitary donkey players in open spaces. They also use it to warn off predator players.

[@JunkFlashify]

fully understand your comment. i think since horses are better suited for war and smaller pvp events as you mentioned, more stories of great success were delivered and therefor the reputation of horses has risen. there is a reason why most autonomous farmers without the access/capital for machinery opt to use donkeys as support instead of horses. horses are fun, donkeys work.

[@leon--osseusii4664]

Donkeys actually have a good matchup experience against k9s, it's so good in fact that some farmer human mains started using them as guarddogs(guarddonkeys) since they show extreeme aggresion against them when in defence mode.

[@ipadista]

9:28 Horses arrived fairly late to the American server, first got popular on the Asian and European servers.

[@the11382]

The horse build started on the North American server, but was a declining build due to either human players on the server or the ice age patch. The build was saved by human players on the Asia server who saw the tremendous combo potential.

[@pookio5939]

Ty

[@corey2232]

Incorrect.

[@clyd1206]

Glad somebody else heard that because I was doubting myself for a second. Europeans brought horses to the Americas, at least that was what I was taught.

[@xtremej2575]

@@clyd1206 horses, of all types, first evolved in the americas. It wasn't until they spread to asia that they branched out. What we know of as the 'horse' today comes from eurasia, and WAS reintroduced to the americas after their ancestors/cousins all died out due to overhunting

[@lancerd4934]

Horses can actually inhibit forest growth by grazing and crushing woody plants, leaving room only for fast colonizing species like grasses. They can also generate a lot of erosion, which will gradually reduce an area's topography to a flat grassy plain. This means that horses are one of the few species able to actually modify their environment to suit themselves better over time.

[@lorenzamccoy7512]

So horses invented terraforming? Intriguing lol

[@alecwhatshisname5170]

It’s theorized that Native Americans deliberately burned eastern forests and used this tactic to expand the Great Plains, and in turn bison populations.

[@God-ch8lq]

goats are wayyyy better at that i work in an animal shelter, and the gardener is also in charge of taling care of the goats, cuz theyre living lawnmowers and theres a massive overgrowth in the area

[@thithi8793]

ok

[@bichnguyen-uc4ys]

ok

[@AlmyTheAlien]

You forgot to mention that horses are one of the only other animals besides humans to spec into the "hairdo" ability. That's a solid +5 to stylishness and goes up to +12 when running quickly or swinging your head sideways.

[@yeyeyeyeyeyeyyeyey]

100%, a lot of players don’t seem to understand just how useful the stylishness stat is in team finding and XP gathering

[@haggis_insanis5713]

the style attribute also peaks when the game detects "finesse" and "sauce" when executing a devastating blow to an attacker that stuns them as seen on 6:21 and 8:05

[@pauls5745]

yes! even outdoes the classic "lion mane". i haven't seen really any style ever come out of that now that I think about it

[@God-ch8lq]

i know a horse who knows he's handsome, he knows how to untie knots and open gates, and he likes to roll around in shit right after i shower him just to piss me off, he likes to mildly incomvenience ppl and see em freak out he's adorable, but he's a rascal in the previous life, he was houdini

[@knz730]

Possible contributing factor to the charisma buff horses have, mentioned in another comment above, which allows them to survive despite being feral invasive introduced species in many habitats throughout the world where humans ruthlessly remove less charismatic invasive introduced species.

[@tanplando1280]

One series I think would be really cool for you to do is something along the lines of “how to make ___ balanced” where you would take an op species or a low tier species and discuss the changes you would make to make it more/less viable

[@lautaromoreno3916]

My man, this should be higher up.

[@BuckyBC]

this is a really good idea mate this should be most certainly added on the series.

[@lwalt3556]

This would be great

[@love2fight205]

This is a good idea, commenting to help the algorith

[@SocialDownclimber]

Balance horses ---> extra leg

[@BobasBunnies]

The horse at 4:38 had unfortunately died and passed away from that kick due to the mare, they did poor safety for the stallion and mare so it wouldn’t happen. Unfortunately sometimes these things happen, and sometimes it’s 1 in 100 or 1000 to hit the right spot with a horses kick. The mare kicked the stallion right in the center of a thinnish part of its skull (if I remember correctly, it’s been a long time), but other then that I think it’s absolutely awesome on how powerful their kicks are!

[@herisruns]

patriarchy status = SMASHED ✊🐎♀

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

As a horse owner (5), I would say that they have many hidden weapons, besides rear kicks, punches are really high dps when doing front damage (they can easily break a door, a human arm/skull or oneshot a small to medium size predators), head blows as well can be quite dangerous in close combat, the tail is used often as a whip causing temporary blindness to the attacker, also the bite is nasty, the front teeth can rip even thick skin or break bones, and most dangerous of all, they can use a buff of adrenaline rush that will double the attack power and ignore pain. We are lucky that they are not meat eaters :D

[@Ihaveadog230]

I agree, they have many hidden abilities, that can be improved with training of the stats, but even their base stats are incredibly strong. Since they are flight animals, I haven’t seen many in the wild do this, unless it is two stallions duelling, but otherwise, it’s very rare to see.

[@God-ch8lq]

@@Ihaveadog230 stallions duelling almost never seriously injure each other, its just to assert dominance, and their reaction time's fast enough to dodge each other's kicks

[@Ihaveadog230]

@@God-ch8lq oh yeah I know that. But sometimes the fights can be lethal, say if a stallion manages to strikes its opponents leg and break it, the horse will not survive for too long.

[@katearcher8881]

That’s very accurate

[@teresashinkansen9402]

Absolutely this, and I can talk about how painful that tail whip can be, enough to draw some blood if they strike you with force in the right spot, like in the neck! the dad of the farrier in my stable lost his eye to a horse tail whip. Also the head blow is also dangerous, they can lift you like a ragdoll with their neck and move their head so fast, considering their head weights like 50kg (100 pounds) you are for a very powerful blow if they give you a head bash, a lot people have died like that. I always thought they would be some pretty scary predators if they were as they are build now, luckily they arent and are actually pretty nice.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

I think you missed one of the horses biggest stamina increasing perks. Most builds require active breathing whilst moving at high speeds. This is energy intensive, and if the rhythm of breathing is out of sync with the strides it can incur an additional stamina drain penalty. Horses, and other equines, don't do this. Instead, as they reach higher speeds, they stop actively breathing, and allow the backwards and forwards movements of there gastrointestinal tract during the strides to actuate there lungs. This saves a significant amount of energy, and is always in sync with the stride, preventing any additional stamina drain penalties.

[@philippw4769]

That's very interesting

[@vepristhorn8278]

Cool

[@vinnregi4882]

Wait. Horses are breathing through their asshole?

[@shoyupacket5572]

damn.... i wish i could do that.

[@thatdarnkitteh]

Never realised that but now you point it out it makes so much sense.

[@mithrillis]

I like it that the developer locks your reproduction skill tree instead of banning you if you try to glitch donkey's intelligence stat onto a horse. This is what I call a developer who knows how to engage with the community and likes to have some fun!

[@KaczkaAmanda]

That's one of the most creative ways of locking illegal content I've seen

[@RedneckPrincessofTacticoolness]

Winning comment

[@genstian]

Potential for future DLC.

[@5pastseven]

Best comment! Made my day

[@xrude7875]

one thing about zebras' , is one on one if caught a zebra will lay on the lion that has it which in some cases have forced the lion to try to escape do to lack of air

[@seekingfinding6204]

They're incredibly intelligent! I saw a video some time ago where a zebra at a waterhole got snagged by a huge crocodile. The croc had the zebra by the tricep, which wasn't a great hold but the zebra couldn't get away. The zebra, instead of panicking, calmly turned its head and scraped its teeth over the croc's eye until the croc let go. It was such a deliberate action, no thrashing or struggling! I wish I could find that video again, it was amazing to watch.

[@RocketJo86]

There is a thing in the donkey's intelligence thou that makes it far more dangerous to small to medium sized predators than a horse. Donkey's are overall less prone to react to a stress situation with panic like a horse does, resulting in a more tactical and aggressive fight Style. There is a reason, why sheep herders keep donkeys and not horses to defend against wolves. And Zebras tend to bite far more than horses do, too. I would actually group them all together in A tier, as they all have different but highly effective play styles specific to their main server. And Namibian horses survive because they are fed by humans through harsh times, which Zebras aren't

[@God-ch8lq]

yeah, and they can plan for the long term theres a donkey i worked with named gilbert, he hasnt gotten laid in ages cuz the female is not interested so i keep em as far away as possible cuz if he smells her he starts mounting everything with 4 legs and an orifice she learned to open the gates to her courtyard... he was crazy so i had to tie him to a fence so he wont hurt the camel he shared an enclosure with he made the most begging face you seen and i decided to takr him to a walk, when i retirned, he sprinted towards the female and the rope slid from me hands 3 people needed to drag hin back to his enclosure, and even then it was difficult

[@OnkyoGrady]

Yeah horses are hit or miss on the agro playstyle. When you have one that hits though...they get the whole group in on the dismemberment orgy. The video didn't give any credit to the danger of the front end though. That head is a sledgehammer with a 4ft handle made entirely of muscle, they use it to great effect.

[@iamjoeysteel]

That's a real Human main perspective though. While humans are dominating the meta, they aren't everywhere and aren't always an option to party with. Donkey's always wanting to solo unless trained by a human is what makes them essentially waste the intelligence stat. High intelligence creatures can only truly grow as a species if they communicate that intelligence socially. To use a human phrase, solo intelligence builds are left constantly reinventing the wheel.

[@birdwithinternetconnection2624]

Your all ignoring the clear counter to donkey players. Knocking them over easily will stun them letting you get a combo that could kill them probably. Especially if your using a damage build

[@God-ch8lq]

@@birdwithinternetconnection2624 good luck knocking a donkey over

[@TimeBucks]

This video was really great

[@tomokokuroki5216]

verdade

[@Sheikrisvan1991]

Nice

[@nitikanitu7342]

Nice

[@rahulkumarmanjhi9512]

Nice

[@smartchannel73]

Nice

[@waldowaggins1330]

I’ve been playing outside for over 16 years and i still learn from this guy every upload

[@PontiacMusic]

Made a new song. Whats yalls honest rating?

[@Reretoha]

Damn i was learning the game by myself and I'm still alive even i almost died in some situations

[@Reretoha]

@@PontiacMusic 7/10

[@sdrawkcab_emanresu]

@@Reretoha I mean, playing as human is kinda meta right now, so honestly it's no wonder we survived as noobs with such an OP build

[@Reretoha]

@Newcious :|

[@yamato9753]

Imagine how terrified some players were when humans and horses started to team up. The most intelligent build in the game had only one real weakness: speed. And then came the horses.

[@sirBrouwer]

even more when they also teamed up with dogs. Dog, human and horse. the triple combo is devastating for there target.

[@LilacMonarch]

@@sirBrouwer you can even add a hawk in there for air coverage. truly OP

[@woodlefoof2]

@@sirBrouwer little new to the game, any of you old heads know when human mains started just fucking around and “left the food chain” Also wtf are “furries”? Are human mains glitching same species limitation with their science perk or what?

[@sirBrouwer]

@@woodlefoof2 the human players natural camouflage is not that good. Posebly the human players you are referring to is trying to use other means to increase the camouflage . And no they are still depended on that food chain with out it they go KO very fast.

[@joelmiller4741]

Sadly horse mains are the definition of power creep during the pre industrial age patch horses were probably the best support class. They were able to compensate for one of human mains worst weakness speed/mobility. But ever since the industrial age patch human mains have found way better ways of traversal like the car which is basically horse main but better in every way (except for the fact that cars are causing an insane glitch on the servers called global warming which could potentially destroy the severs hopefully the devs do something about it in the next patch).

[@Kingdom_Of_Dreams]

4:38 I literally clicked on this video to see if this clip made it in!! If you've ever seen the original clip, it's really sad. The horse handlers brought in a stallion to breed a mare, but they did so with the mare's foal present. So, naturally, the mare's protective instincts clicked in and she delivered one fatal kick to the stallion's head. He immediately collapsed to the ground, emptied his bowels, and never got back up. He had died immediately. Stallions will kill the offspring of rival males, which is why the mare was so protective. The horse handlers did not know about this, which got their beautiful stallion killed by the mare. And breeding stallions are not cheap. They lost a very expensive breeding stallion because of their stupid mistake.

[@Riley-cn5il]

I came to see if anyone commented that, and you beat me too it :D

[@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094]

It caught me off guard, but yep, that's true. Edit: That being said, I still wasn't expecting horse cock to be shown in a TierZoo video.

[@Sumrandodude]

Dammit he tricked me into learning!

[@lalalachris]

The fact that they did not know that says they either have no business breeding horses or they are lying.

[@God-ch8lq]

my uncle was a horse breeder a while ago one time some fancy-ass stallion was brought into the premises and introduced to a mare, now, horses do have some kind of courting ritual (for lack of a better word), basically both participants do a thorough vibe check and then if she feels like his vibes are good, she signals that he passed the vibe check so this stallion just goes all in, no vibe check, no prep she just kicks him in the fuckin balls, his owner paid a lot money to move him here, and now his horse's crown jewels are ruined sorry 4 bad english, also feel free to correct me if im wrong, as i may have forgotten some details

[@10PALKI10]

TierZoo has really been perfecting his craft over time

[@adammccarthy4076]

Yeeessss

[@user-wb4sf9zv1c]

k a, Al l s km s

[@cerealkillinspoon]

Hes not horsing around

[@PontiacMusic]

Made a new song. Whats yalls honest rating?

[@paulgibert6390]

investing skill points

[@blakdeth]

Modern horses actually come from Europe not the Ameicas. The ancient American horse (aka Equus scotti) went extinct long before Europeans showed up there, and were more genetically related to zebras than horses.

[@Vanastar]

I came down to see if anyone else had picked up on that. It should be obvious, since Old World history is absolutely full of the use of horses way, way before the discovery of the New World.

[@Miman4206]

I was looking for this comment since I was very confused that he said they were originally from North America

[@Dell-ol6hb]

he misspoke, Equidae did first evolve in North America and then spread across Beringia to Afroeurasia before then going extinct in North America until European colonists brought them over again

[@poliestotico]

Big oopsie indeed, tier zoo pin a response or please explain what you ment :P

[@gamerbear84]

@@Vanastar How do you think human's first got to the new world? Here's a hint, it's the same path horses went in the other direction in.

[@namelessghoul615]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the plenty of weaknesses of horses. Like, how the structure of their anatomy causes them to be very fragile, especially the delicate bones in their legs and feet. They also cannot vomit, even in the case of extreme intestinal distress, and in the rare case that they do, it's almost always fatal. Nonetheless, great video as always!

[@teresashinkansen9402]

A horse's legs are indeed a weakness but they aren't fragile at all, they are actually quite strong, they look thin and fragile but that's because most of the musculature is close to their body and not on their legs, if you compare the thickness of the leg bones of a horse and a human you will see that their bones are slightly ticker in proportion yet shorter and much more dense giving them significantly stronger bones. The reason why they seem to break easily is because they are large animals massively strong and the forces encountered while they run, fall or get stuck are very great, they cannot really move with a broken limb so it is a death sentence in the wild. I saw a horse crash against a gate made of relatively thick steel pipe, about 2 1/2 inches in diameter with a wall of about 1/8" yet he managed to bend the gate and one of the pipes was badly bent where he hit it with his leg, it looked as if a car crashed on the gate. Luckily he didn't got a fracture but needed stitches and rest on a stall because got some bad inflammation, later we tried to bend back the gate but we couldn't do it, we even tried to drive a pick up truck over it but the most bent pipe didn't got back to its original shape, he managed to stretch the damn pipe, you need a force of tonnes to do that! its when I realized how freaking strong horses are. So yeah their legs and digestive system is their Achilles' heel but in the case of legs not because they are fragile but because they cannot move and heal once a fracture happens.

[@bigchonk5553]

Finally back again with another amazing class video, will be trying this build next month!

[@Kitty-xi1sb]

You didn't even watch it yet

[@Randomguy-sq5sj]

@@Kitty-xi1sb ....

[@PontiacMusic]

Made a new song. Whats yalls honest rating?

[@Reretoha]

@Don't Read My Profile Photo bro this is cringe

[@ConstantlyDamaged]

@@Reretoha It's a bot. They're farming follows to sell accounts. Don't bother replying, just report them as spam.

[@johnmoore8627]

As a new Fire Emblem player, i’m inclined to say that horses are in fact OP

[@Glory2Snowstar]

Pokemon player here, if a deer rides them they become god-slaying beasts

[@stephenpaton8756]

Just wait until you get flying units, then you'll see OP

[@cellgoondude]

If Pegasus count, then yes, horses are indeed OP, but maybe a little less than Wyvernsin FE3H

[@johnmoore8627]

@@stephenpaton8756 No they’re not, Niles just one hit shoots them down

[@Loopy791]

Oh especially in FE4

[@genstian]

Horses can teamplay with a human, getting access to horse armor, that even makes them immune to classic bite attacks, and even allowing them to face much higher tier opponents. Only a few metas ago horses was the best team build, even having higher bounty than humans.

[@theali8oras274]

human side quest garbage ,pls

[@muhammedkoroglu6544]

Horse armour usually only protects the upper body tho, no? They leave the legs area uncovered, leaving them vulnerable to lethal bleeding damage as explained in other comments.

[@arcguardian]

@@muhammedkoroglu6544 well the comment didn't say perfect armor.

[@bargun3943]

They only get the armour if they give todd howard $1.50

[@genstian]

@@muhammedkoroglu6544 Naa, we do have a sort of horse leg brace that really helps with that problem too.

[@CursedDepartmentEastOffice]

8:47 That donkey jump caught me off guard LMAO

[@grantwilson4985]

Anteater: “What a beautiful day to be alive.” Horse: *Curb-stomps Anteater*

[@sylvanas9329]

Ah, the horse. Very much a fragile speedster. I’m surprised you didn’t touch more on how easily they can get injured. Their digestive system is weird and they straight up can’t vomit, their intestines can get tangled as their system is much looser to enable better running… they’re a mess. But when your main abilities are so good (and also you manage to team with humans), those disadvantages can get balanced out.

[@NoPrefect]

Most successful survival strat there is, get in good with the shaved apes.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I've heard that they can fully digest meat, but can't handle fat at all.

[@NevisYsbryd]

Their intestines get _tangled?_

[@gk2370]

He did mentioned low HP, therefore more prone to injuries

[@cheezbiscuit4140]

@@NevisYsbryd yep, even if they lay down for more than a couple of hours. That's why they sometimes sleep standing up and need to be put outta their misery if a leg breaks.

[@noahadams7784]

I think you glossed over a lot of what makes the donkey build so good, and I personally would place them in A tier with horses for a few reasons. The first is their intelligence, which you did cover but this upgraded stat unlocks the ability to be taught by human masters similar to dogs. This allows donkey players to achieve high ranking positions in human bases, particularly on the livestock farm where they act as a guardian for the animals and even the humans themselves. The second reason is their unparalleled intimidation resolve and stubbornness. Even top tier builds like elephants will find their efforts to intimidate veteran donkey players will never work, and this coupled with their famous stubborn reputation makes fighting any donkey player a harrowing task that will only be complete once the donkey is sent to the main menu. Donkey players have taken an A tier build and decided to go rogue with it, and what they created was nothing short of a prodigy and there’s a reason why human farmers have a saying “if you have the choice between a 16 gauge shotgun and a donkey, the donkey is more worth it because they don’t need ammo and you don’t have to reload them”

[@God-ch8lq]

they have a secret technique that no other equine uses they bite the target, pinning it, and then while its immobilized and in crippling pain, they kick and stomp it

[@morvish1925]

@@God-ch8lq yo dude, I have horse party members, they bite wood a lot and don't need to bite to pin, they can kick or just slam, their strong enough to bend metal by slamming, We had to replace some of our gear due to their biting and slamming

[@God-ch8lq]

@@morvish1925 yeah, but they dont kick a target after biting it, they just bite

[@Makjaoiuewhxkjs]

@@God-ch8lq I mean horses do bite and then stomp the target with from hoofs, they are just not nearly as effective in it as a donkey. Also, ponies often behave in a more "donkey way", with more biting and stomping and less running away. They are also usually more stubborn than big horses, I guess because, ponies naturally inhabit more harsh conditions environments, like "mountainy" places, forests etc. Not open places like average horses.

[@God-ch8lq]

@@Makjaoiuewhxkjs yes, but horses dont bite to pin the target, they bite and dont fpllowup with a combk ponies are less stupid than full size horses from my perosnal experience

[@Mecha_KingGhidorah]

4:17 this guy falling is absolutely hilarious. Why was he even trying to kick a dog anyway? 😂

[@teabee2968]

Greatest video online

[@zacklima377]

That clip of karma destroying the guy that was about to kick the dog is pure gold

[@mattsmith5421]

Shame the dog didn't piss in his mouth when he was on the floor then bite his ears off.

[@dasauto1555]

Imagine he landed that kick? Like wtf, special place in hell for that turd.

[@isukarse]

how are u able to kick a dog, u just know that this guy is lost and should be treated as a child

[@BlueSunnySky17]

@@isukarse yea for real what a fool, luckily he got hurt instead of the dog

[@ChillavaKirby]

@@isukarse I disagree. I treat children with respect.

[@hiimryan2388]

Fun fact: when horse power was first invented by Scottish scientist James watt (yes that guy) in the 1800s horses only had 1 horse power but now due to breeding modern horses have roughly 3-4 horse power. Source: trust me bro

[@warlordofbritannia]

Horses learned the Kaioken, obv

[@janfungusamon4926]

Google says that horses have around 14hp

[@hiimryan2388]

@@janfungusamon4926 must be a strong thorough bread then

[@sebastienwatling349]

Also fun fact- He didn't actually use a horse for his measure. he just guessed that a horse was 3/2 of a pony, rounded it a bit, then the measure was found to conveniently be a very accurate definition for how much power a horse produces

[@sebastienwatling349]

Tldr: horsepower is not based off of a horse

[@kesitheguesser716]

Growing up our neighbour's farm had a guard donkey to protect the livestock and crops. It was a sweetheart but would and could kill wolves and coyotes by biting the neck and pinning it down.

[@xLoLRaven]

I was just thinking the same thing! There's a reason farmers/ranchers use Donkeys as guard animals!

[@matyaskassay4346]

Donkeys can surely be fierce, but they mainly protect livestock simply by alerting the shepherd and the guard dogs of danger, rather than by direct combat. A few wolves can still pretty easily kill a donkey, not to mention a bear.

[@Breakfast_of_Champions]

@@matyaskassay4346 I think the main opponents are coyotes, they are much more numerous and bolder than wolves. In Europe there's even nothing like that.

[@kesitheguesser716]

@@matyaskassay4346 Here the main threat is coyotes and foxes. Bears and packs of wolves stay away from settlements mostly because we keep our trash cleaned up

[@matyaskassay4346]

@@Breakfast_of_Champions the coyote's counterpart in europe would be the golden jackal. They're much rarer and more secretive today than coyotes tho.

[@maskedmildew5437]

is it bad that all your videos just make me desperately wish their was an MMO game just like this. where everyone was one singular animal living on whatever continent and played from birth to death, interacting with each other

[@MooseyFate100]

And when you die you get the option to switch species adjacent in the tree, meaning you can transition from any animal to any other with subsequent playthroughs

[@puzzleheaddesign3789]

You are currently playing. Get out there and adventure!😊

[@yoboikamil525]

​@@maelstrom57me

[@mrh4900]

Imagine if you only get to play as a randomly generated animal. Enjoy the meerkat play through. lmao

[@chingshady2689]

@@mrh4900turtle has the record for fastest speed run

[@SilverBellsAbove]

I love the breakdown this gives for players new to equine gameplay. I know that this video can't get to all the nuances (I could talk about frame-perfect flying lead transitions all day!), but I want prospective horse players to know that the relatively low HP of equine builds (scaled for weight class) comes with serious challenges. In order to take perks that enable OP sprint speed and the iconic kick parry the horse relies on its legs a lot and injuries to them are run-ending. Especially to the feet, which can easily become infected in wet biomes. Because of the roaming playstyle of the horse, it is extremely hard for a horse player to rest for long enough to recover from a leg injury. Beware environmental hazards like soft mud, sharp loose stones, smooth mountain rocks, hidden holes, ice, and other terrain hazards because slipping and falling is the easiest way to pop a stifle or worse. One of the advantages of other ungulates using horns to extend the hitbox is that horns tend not to be critical to mobility. So because horses use mobility strat as such a major part of their attack setup, kicking can be a higher risk move than you'd think. If a horse player misses and they injure that foot, they've lost the ability to escape. Part of why the high-INT team strategies with human players can be so OP is that human players with their tool use and building abilities can create relatively safe zones or equip gear to horses to mitigate some of their low HP fragility risks, and because of the horse build's high endurance those safe zones can be in almost any biome. I do want to point out however that zebras and horses prefer flat terrain in whatever biome they inhabit and don't do as well ascending or descending elevated terrain. The donkey build is somewhat more effective in high elevation maps and their INT stat really helps problem solving about how to get around hazards without broken wallhax perks like the bighorn sheep or mountain goat. In these environments the donkey's sprint speed doesn't matter as much as there's no flat straightaways to escape and because they compromised on the mobility stat I think that's why they lost power on the kick. Another challenge to equine builds is that their digestion can be sensitive as well as inefficient. They do not belch to the same degree as ruminant builds so the gas from processed food has to escape the other way, and if they eat something that produces too much gas, impacts their digestion, or poisons them it can apply the dangerous status condition 'colic.' This is the number one run-ender for domestic horse builds. Be careful out there, and fellow horse mains remember: stay away from foxglove but you ARE valid to eat fingers, don't forget your forward lunge has amazing distance coverage and auto-applies a morale debuff.

[@kagitsune]

I am adoring the image of a mountain goat having wallhax perks. This is a genius comment.

[@evernewb2073]

oh that's interesting: the creepy sex-add phishing scheme chatbots are now making compilations of parts of top comments instead of just copy-pasting the whole thing. there's a creepy sex-add chatbot stealing about a third of your wonderful comment btw.

[@Adanosiam]

You, sir or madam, know your game very well. Thank you for sharing. Mai ask, do donkeys have the sweat skill as well?

[@beardedragonboi]

Jesus you just wrote a novel

[@beardedragonboi]

I’ve never seen a comment this long lol

[@somedudeok1451]

When I was a kid and learned that horses can kill you with a kick, I was always extremely scared around horses. The worst was the stable of a farm we often visited had their horses backside face the corridor between two rows of horses. It felt like a death trap waiting to spring everytime I walked through there.

[@God-ch8lq]

if youre scared, the horse is scared cuz he sees ur scared herd instinct

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

People scare kids with that rather than letting someone who knows horses teach them. Usually fine until you bring a kid to learn to ride and they refuse to go near the butt which has some important health things thst need to be done and the kid has to learn. In general if the people handling them say it's fine. It's fine.

[@God-ch8lq]

@@NoThankUBeQuiet also if the ears are pinned to the neck, the horse is threatening you, so you should back off

[@somedudeok1451]

@@God-ch8lq Pretty sure we've seen some kicks in this video where the ears were not pinned.

[@somedudeok1451]

@@NoThankUBeQuiet Accidents happen, even with professionals near. I don't fear horses today, but this is one of those areas where I'd rather be too cautious than too reckless.

[@FoxDragon]

The fact that donkeys are added to herds of horses in very rural area's (like backcountry Alaska) to help defend the herd from wild predictors is enough to prove that the donkey class should probably be rated as high, if not higher, than the horse class. I've also heard of them being used to protect flocks of sheep or goats.

[@AudieHolland]

They're better than guard dogs when used to protect other cattle from coyote attacks. Especially their bite ability and giving no quarter makes them like terminators against the poor coyotes.

[@aina3387]

They are way less docile than horses, which makes them harder to teamplay but better at defense.

[@wowfmomf6126]

Who agrees he should make a video on the electric eel.

[@stacanmart1]

Is this a real game bc i wanna play it.

[@ruffgook]

Who needs superman if donkeys can save us from "wild predictors" from altering the future

[@theprogressivemichigander6588]

My understanding was that horses were originally from the Eurasian server and were brought to the North American server when the humans unlocked improved sailing technology and began to cross oceans regularly. Horses then spread across North America and the local North American human population quickly adapted allowing them into their parties to hunt the native Buffalo.

[@SuperSonicSuicide]

Iirc, horses evolved in both eurasia and North America but the North American branch went extinct. Currently horses in North America are the European imports which are thought to primarily come from the Volga region.

[@x_MoonlitShade]

There seems to be lots of confusion and misinformation regarding the “horses are originally from North America” part. Some people are claiming this is false information. However, it is technically correct. The ancestors to modern horses actually ARE from North America. Modern species are not. They migrated across the Bering straight crossing long before humans domesticated them, and spread across the entire world, ending up in Africa where they evolved into zebras. Then, North American horses went extinct and were later brought back to the New World by humans. This was several thousands of years ago. All modern horse species originate from Europe, Asia, or Africa, but those species are descendant from species native to North America. Edit: I am speaking about the whole Equus genus (Horses, Zebras, Donkeys and Mules) here. Obviously specific species like Zebras didn’t originate from NA, but the next step up from species, Genus, most certainly did originate from the New World.

[@elnico5623]

Oh that's cool

[@basic12341]

It's still inaccurate to say though. The standard person isn't going to think Horse ancestors. They think horse, the horse.

[@x_MoonlitShade]

@@basic12341 I personally disagree with that statement. Since this video is talking about the Equus genus in general and not just E. ferus, it was an accurate statement. He’s not talking about one species, but the whole genus.

[@CptCh4os]

Ah thanks for clarifying. I was wondering

[@dendaking]

I believe, but do you mind citing a source for this?

[@TuShan18]

I find it interesting that despite the humans crafting superior artificial mounts, horses are still part of their parties as a support class. Both for those that really like the horse player base, and for the nostalgic group that likes the times when we relied on horses for fast travel. Sometimes an unorthodox build is exactly what makes something high tier.

[@bluesbest1]

There's a lot more danger to the artificial mounts. For one thing, they're either a couple tons of steel or you need to be able to keep it upright. Then there's the speed. Higher speed is generally a major benefit, but then you have to worry about everyone else going at the high speed, too. Horses can avoid collisions all on their own in a way that the artificial ones can't.

[@dionjones6300]

Artificial mounts are superior in many areas, but sustainability is not one of them. They also require a silly amount of infrastructure to work optimally

[@TJskillz169]

Human combat units even use them for extreme terrains where artificial mounts aren’t able to traverse

[@adinsilverstein2788]

I believe homesteaders often use horses to transport loads in areas without roads

[@God-ch8lq]

@@TJskillz169 some militaries tried using llamas as pack animals on uneven terrain as they aren't easily frightened (unlike horses) , can hide you from IR scopes and keep u warm at night, can carry loads of ammo, and are very resilient

[@ArcticTron]

I like that TierZoo acknowledged that he made an inaccuracy in one of his older videos at around 3:03 and corrected it, that's very cool of him.

[@donniewalsh4299]

Yooooo shoutout from RuneScape chronicles bro. Amazing to have you there

[@leveticus5721]

4:38 The mare in that clip instantly killed the stallion with one kick. Yeah, it was partly due to the incompetent handlers but damn, it really illustrates how lethal horses can be!

[@Macavity116]

I've seen this clip before, and I was really surprised to see it again in this video.

[@God-ch8lq]

i was kicked by a horse once he's a relatively small but very angery boi, and he often does a little warning kick first, but that warning kick accidentally hit my arm while i was busy doing the usual maintenance it wasnt full strength, just a warning, so i didnt break anything really it was one of the first times i worked with him, so he didnt respect me, nowadays, he knows me and he doesnt even try i still have a bruise, and it happened 3 months ago

[@sosukeaizen7056]

@@God-ch8lq honestly we take those. Could've been much worse, and at least you can say you've been kicked by a horse and survived

[@God-ch8lq]

@@sosukeaizen7056 yeah...

[@hoff0839]

Doubtful that it actually died...

[@Angel-2-7-]

8:57 I've always liked donkeys more than horses, and it's nice that they enjoy the gameplay without even trying to use all their potential, sometimes not going for the META is fun :D

[@WickerJig]

Hey man, what are your thoughts on multiclassing? I've seen a few people talking about horse/donkey builds and lion/tiger builds, but I'm not to sure how viable they'd actually be. It'd be great to get a rundown on a few of them

[@spindash64]

The biggest problem is that, like with most mods, the game will actually lock you out of achievements with these builds most of the time, so they’re really not worth using for standard completion purposes

[@hurgcat]

The horse/donkey build is imo the best human support class. If you are just looking to support your human friend, can't get better than the mule class. Smarts, awareness, and guile of a donkey, with the speed, agility, and temperment of a horse. Only real downside is reduced lifespan and lack of breeding options.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

Mules are great ligers are bad

[@danielcliffe8197]

The issue with multiclassing is that it locks you out of the game's main questline from the start so they're generally only worth doing as a gimmick playthrough

[@iandick1364]

Actually a few mules have been bred. It isn't completely impossible. Most are infertile though.

[@scottyrotty]

I love the sound effects the use of sound from great video games most my fav of all being the super smash series Keep it going tierzoo you truly are a unique brand!

[@niharg2011]

I think the agression factor of Zebra was understated. Recently saw one chasing a jackal in Masai Mara, they are crazy

[@stevenn1940]

That clip of a zebra chasing a cheetah was just beautiful

[@Bungus22]

What was missing here is that in this Famine that China suffered, ALL Western countries left China alone. China received NO HELP from anyone. In other famines such as in India, in Africa, in Ireland or even the one suffered by Haiti, the wester nations contributed. In Bangladesh they contributed. In Bengal, the wester nations contributed. In Biafra, they contributed. Who does not remember the "Africa LIVE AID" of 1985, to help Somalia and Ethiopia? I still remember the song: "We are the World". And for China... NOTHING. This country, China, faced disaster alone and came out stronger than ever in its history. Alone. Without invading any sovereign country. Without stealing anyone's resources. Without attacking and without intervening in the affairs of other nations. Alone. Working hard to become the second world economic power. 40 years ago China was starving. Today, China has its own Space Station and is already on Mars. Today, the Chinese are proud to be Chinese. Three decades ago, the Chinese felt humiliated. Well not anymore. Never more! And finally. It's True: There was a terrible Famine. And yes, it is true. The Famine was Mao's fault... But, the Famine was also because China suffered 37 years of WAR! China was at uninterrupted war for 37 years! (Just between 1913-1949 have: --Xinhai Revolution: Failed New Empire Coup. --Second Xinhai Revolution. --National Protection War. --Warlord Infighting Across China. --First United Front: Northern Expedition. --First Chinese Civil War. --Second United Front: Protection against Japan in the WWII. --Second Chinese Civil War). U see? China was at war! This is why the Famine happened and not just Mao. China suffered more than two years of Hungry (1959-1961), and although Famines have been present throughout the history of mankind, they have never been as cruel as in China and its almost 5 million deaths. (The Propaganda says it was 10 million... or more).

[@niharg2011]

@@Bungus22 tldr

[@huks9380]

@@Bungus22 Ma'am, This Is A Wendy's.

[@user-nq4hw5eb9d]

@@huks9380 lmaoooooo

[@potato_boy1244]

I love how he said “The speed of a top tier predator” but showed a cheeta

[@PontiacMusic]

Made a new song. Whats yalls honest rating?

[@R1chAsshole]

Top tier predator low tier big cat

[@pedro_henrique7098]

@Don't Read My Profile Photo 🤓

[@cise3895]

Fr, at least they’re a predator _with_ top tier speed

[@posho_frito2414]

@Don't Read My Profile Photo nobody asked

[@tobyhelps3602]

My favourite thing is that to prevent them being OP, horses have been severely NERFed by debuffs that cause way higher fatalities than other builds, such as leg injuries, eating too nutritious grass, running for too long, or lying down all causing game overs

[@lewycraft]

Well, it is not exactly the issue of a horse itself, but how it was breeded by humans over thousands of years. Wild horses didn't have those problems most of the time, but after beeing domesticated, brees to be stronger, bigger and faster, their bodies were put under higher stress and became more prone to damaging themselves.

[@Vejur9000]

“Players, spec, build, base stats, tier list, meta, off meta… an engaging use of jargon, to hook viewers. Well done.

[@pnwsnewton]

The draft horse styling out of the barn at 7:38 knows it's bad ass. Even S-tier predators would need more than a YOLO attack to get one.

[@blackonyx9842]

I used to work with horses who were trained as human supports. They're incredibly powerful animals and quite intelligent. However, they are subject to some unfortunate jank: their inability to vomit or recover from broken limbs makes them rather vulnerable to falls or poisoning. (Still an excellent class, though, and their ability to work so well with humans definitely doesn't hurt.)

[@God-ch8lq]

intelligent? horses are stoopid af

[@hailarwotanaz5848]

They can’t vomit?

[@feiryfella]

@@hailarwotanaz5848 No, they can't which is why they're vulnerable to colic.

[@hailarwotanaz5848]

I do know from experience that horses are very emotional animals

[@hailarwotanaz5848]

@@feiryfella that’s interesting

[@anthonymacarthy1307]

6:42 when the zebra was chasing the cheetah i almost died from laughing 😁😄😁😄😄😄

[@B-52H]

That cheetah like HELP HES CRAZY

[@eddykidplayzyt]

0:04 missed opportunity to say “It is good day to be not dead”

[@thatworksmedia]

The supposed weaknesses of the donkey class you listed are mostly due to the first spawn area of the build being restricted to the Ethipian mountains. This means that fleeing from animals and wild kicking led to the loss of a significant amount of players falling off the steep mountains, until they patched these problems.

[@darknessdescending6695]

A video about hybrid animals would be so cool. This video was really great and it got be thinking about mules and other hybrid animals. I would love to hear your take on some specific builds, sterile and fertile hybrids, and whether overall hybrid animals are good and combine the best of both parents, or are just low-tier mistakes/glitches that no one should ever play as.

[@lancejobs]

The Liger, Super ultra Secret class unlock, is totally killer, but the NDA forces to to say no more.

[@Colinop]

ur pfp lego steamboat willie

[@M_11_m41n]

As a fun fact, actual American horses went extinct around 11,000 years ago. This was probably due to competition and human hunting. Most of the horses you see today were reintroduced from Europe and Asia. In a sense, horses are not OP and can be exploited to extinct in a drastic circumstance. The funny thing is, these prehistoric American horses would've probably still had three visible toes if they were still alive today.

[@TwistedDestructor]

I mean to be fair, what animals have a chance against humans if we really tried to make them extinct

[@Jinxbreaker]

I mean no matter how op an animal is, if humans wanted to we could make it go extinct.

[@themore-you-know]

American humans: horses are useless, so we ate them to extinction. Eurasian humans: horses? MY EMPIRE HAS BEGUN Mongols with horses: YOUR EMPIRES HAVE ENDED

[@WednesdayShortsDance]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKnXfGadiMyWgtE Finally it's here

[@ConstantlyDamaged]

@@Jinxbreaker Mosquito. 'Nuff said.

[@quinnmorgendorffer531]

3:35 is such a mood

[@wigglytuffenjoyer]

Massive props for the multiversus gag, editing like this is why tierzoo is the best

[@WolframYouTube]

Imagine if the Mares of Diomedes, flesh-eating horses from Greek mythology, actually existed. Now that would be one terrifying beast to get chased down by, considering how fast horses move, especially considering they probably would be pack hunters considering their herds.

[@NoPrefect]

Horses are not pure herbivores, small creatures like birds and mice are 100% on the menu, and most ungulate animals will opportunistically feed on carrion. There is only one hurdle they would have to cross to make it all real: horses are bigger or we are smaller.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

@@NoPrefect I'vs heard that horses have trouble digesting fats. Combined with an inability to vomit, if they ate something sufficiently fatty, their digestive tract could be out of comission for days.

[@WintrBorn]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 it depends on the type of fat. I’m not going to feed a horse bacon, but throwing some vegetable oil in the feed helps add calories in winter.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

@@WintrBorn Oh, neat! I honestly don't know that much, I just have things I've heard.

[@daanishdan318]

An overlooked advantage of kicking is the low momentum cost in addition to the counter-attack = Synergy Points. As you mentioned, for a bull to "fight" it must face the predator. Whereas the horse can kick and continue running - without changing its overall direction of movement. This creates a unique fight (stun) and flight synergy.

[@God-ch8lq]

many predators, especially large cats, attack from behind, a well-aimed kick will pulverize a mountain lion's ribs

[@YounesLayachi]

I can't get over the smash sound effects whenever a zebra kicks the ever daylight of a chasing lion 😂

[@ApequH]

And a horse doesn't have 360 vision, but does have 350 and very good hearing

[@God-ch8lq]

@@ApequH as a rule of thumb, unless you stand perfectly behind a horse, he can see you

[@cursedcat6467]

4:09 that kangaroo legitimately got kicked in the nuts

[@5341Nation]

The Equine category is actually a subcategory of the "odd toed ungulete" category. Rhinos, Tapirs, Paraceratherium, Eurohippus, Elasmotherium, Chalecotherium, and Toxodon were really successful animals, and are close relatives to the Horse. Some of these animals even inspired the traditional Equine build

[@Lord_of_Proboscidea]

Very true

[@5341Nation]

@Newcious aw, just cute (I know it's a robot I know)

[@katarinawikholm5873]

The equines are pretty much the twinks of their Superfaction, w rhinos and the -theriums being the tanks, and tapirs being the stealthy smarts.

[@MrMarinus18]

Though of those the equine is the most successful by a large margin.

[@matyaskassay4346]

Yeah but they're a pretty outdated build group, and most of them couldn't compete with the more advanced ruminant builds, which is why only a few species survived until today.

[@Evan-mt7bc]

I feel like you really should have talked about the Horse's extreme weakness to fall damage. If a horse ever takes a bad fall it's curtains for a horse and unlike other builds that invest in the domestication tree the broken leg debuff is still most likely fatal to a Horse player. Usually in the domestication skill tree recovery rates from injuries and illness is incredibly likely compared to the wild skill tree but Horses don't have access to this perk.

[@OtesOtesOtes]

I agree but generally the INT mitigates the fall damage vulnerability, gravity is fairly simple to come to terms with when you're a grazing herbivore. Pegasus builds even do away with the issue entirely.

[@Dame.1k]

😂

[@God-ch8lq]

@@OtesOtesOtes INT? my man you havnt seen how stoopid horses can be

[@Benjy52]

He did in a separate video.

[@chipbutty3645]

@@God-ch8lq horses are smarter than a majority of animals

[@ChisteSinGracia]

7:00. “The Braithwaite manor battle” Theme song from Red dead redemption 2.

[@masterscheme1]

Sir... I must say... As a life long gamer this is one of the dopest ways to teach gamers nature in a fun and relatable way... Great job... Pretty enjoyable...

[@aina3387]

As a non-gamer, I feel like watching this video is like watching a foreign film to learn the language.

[@stevewall7044]

Careful he is is often wrong, at 9:28 he expressed a complete falsehood, it is not even close.

[@aina3387]

@@stevewall7044 The genus equus did originate in North America about 4 million years ago, traveled across the land bridge to Eurasia and then went extinct in North America until Columbus brought them back.

[@stevewall7044]

@@aina3387 What happened to my reply? I had already posted a reply. Fossils for the genus equss have been found all over the world, with the exception of Australia and Antartica. Przewalski's horse which shares common ancestry with what became today the modern horse are native to Asia never been, in the old world. Just Papers from the USA publish that they are native to the old world. Yes, a lot of its evolution took place in the new world, but it did not originate there and was not domesticated there. Also, Mustangs are not wild horses, they are feral horses(horses that were brought to the new world and escaped).

[@aina3387]

@@stevewall7044 The papers that say they came from the US are published in US journals, but in academia the most rigorous and highly regarded journals are from the USA, so that doesn't disprove their point. There may be debate, as there always is in academia, but it isn't laughably incorrect to say that they originated from North America since that is the consensus of the scientific community.

[@dantosinferne]

I'd argue donkey is at least A tier. on equine builds, higher INT actually influences a lot of other stats which means stacking INT is broken af for equine. you get more stam, higher stealth perception, higher CON (can travel more easily through worse terrain), and a defense bonus (your char is less prone to environmental damage or friendly fire). they're a fantastic support class, esp in pvp vs canines. but if you really wanna tear shit up, mules are even more broken since they get increased stm/health/def/str and stacking int works the same. only downside is you can't play through any of the child-rearing levels most other classes have access to. no joke, donkeys are great flock guardians. they fuck up dogs/etc like it's not even funny. stubborn as shit, less fear. great animals.

[@kidthebilly7766]

that might be true if they preferred herds but like the video creator said they prefer to go solo

[@OtesOtesOtes]

In modernity they're certainly S Tier with horses, but in the wild "bigger is better" holds true.

[@johnr797]

@@OtesOtesOtes oh you're still playing without the patch? Lemme guess, trying to xp farm as Megatherium.

[@anubis4496]

Fun fact, some farms overseas use donkeys are guard animals, as they're very protective of land, and are ruthless asfff hahaha

[@God-ch8lq]

@@kidthebilly7766 it depends some donks can be quite social where i work we always keep a donkey with the horse herd, cuz it keeps em calm, and the donkey gets along quite well with en

[@jentegeeraerts1119]

Love seeing the OP mongol horse archer and hawk strategy, literally broke the human's asian meta for decades

[@feha92]

What is the hawk used for, how does it help them fight in an army? Or is it just used for surveillance, and pretty much any bird that could be trained to fly above humans would have worked?

[@humzachudhary2056]

Yeah I would like to know as well

[@caseyb1346]

@@feha92 finds food, I think. Mongol armies moved faster then their baggage trains could keep up, so they had to forage a lot.

[@Ranting4Rent]

@@feha92 The hawks are trained to distract the pray as well as find pray as Mongolia always had move around giant mountains making moving around very difficult compared to other places. The distraction was for the archer to hit easy shots

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

The horse and the hawk strategy are being used to this day in certain areas in Mongolia and other regions of asia (like Republic of Buryatia, Tyva, Yakutia, Kazakhstan, ect.) for hunting. The terrain is in many places too difficult even for specialised vehicles to drive on. There isn't an extensive road infrastructure due to low population density. People living in remote villages and nomads often have to rely on themselves using the methods of their ancestors. In some places, there are small planes flying between those villages to supply them, mostly in far eastern Russia, but it isn't always reliable.

[@ThursonJames]

“I’m the predator now.” 🤣

[@paul9299]

A couple solid suggestions for tier zoo topics: stingrays ( fresh and saltwater) , Deer builds, extremophiles list, or maybe a nocturnal biome list? Keep up the great work

[@boopbiffsnose]

Ooh, second the request for extremophiles.

[@yancgc5098]

Definitely would like to see an extremophile tier list

[@Stierenkloot]

I have a better suggestion. Actually do some fucking research. This asshole is wrong about 30% of what he says. For example horses aren’t from fucking America ffs. This whole channel is a goddamn joke

[@DjDolHaus86]

You missed a key factor with horses, they are highly susceptible to crit damage and crippling status effects

[@mitchverr9330]

Kind of a shame no comment on the Mule hybrids, even if they are sterile, they tend to remove a lot of the issues with the donkey build.

[@aaronyayger]

Reproduction is the main and only full goal of the game. Mules are Z tier. Nothing else they can do matters because they can't spread their genes.

[@mitchverr9330]

@@aaronyayger They do however keep the donkey line going because even though it is completely unreasonable and hard to work with, they provide mules. So the mules worth, by proxy, keeps donkeys going.

[@aaronyayger]

@@mitchverr9330 That would make them a benefit of Donkeys not Mules.

[@daughter-of-loki1062]

Fun fact: very rarely, mules can actually reproduce. It is, again, very *very* rare but it can happen.

[@unusualholly6071]

Some mules are actually better than horses, and some are worse than donkeys in terms of cross species cooperation.

[@jujuoof174]

I love the little game elements scattered troughout the video!!

[@justasmltwngir1732]

This video looks extra high quality. I’m so proud of the progress this channel has made. On another note; I am Afraid of horses, so this video will help me justify my fears lol.

[@curiousKuro16]

I'm afraid of cows so I feel you.

[@WednesdayShortsDance]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKnXfGadiMyWgtE Finally its here

[@batfurs3001]

Horses are too stupid to harm you on purpose and in general very friendly, so as long as you're nice and steady slow with your movements, you approach them from the side (basically just stay well within their FOV, look up a diagram if you're curious), and you watch their ears (both facing forward/ one facing forward the other swiveling around = chill, both ears halfway between forward and backwards = eeehhh, ears pinned back = stay back) they'll just act like very big weird dogs. Also don't keep staring at them. The slow blink works, but unlike cats they won't blink back. Looking away also works. Staring at them makes them think you're wanting to pounce them, so that makes them nervous. My mom's horse will literally lie down and lay her head in your lap if you sit down in her safe space and she trusts you. And she then just enjoys the pets. They're also prey animals and pretty damn big, so they need more personal space than dogs/cats. Again just watch the ears and any sign they might be feeling nervous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them. And they get nervous if you act nervous. If you act like you've got the biggest balls this side of the mississippi while also still being respectful of their space, they'll be a lot less nervous. They're just nervous wrecks in general who absolutely adore pets and scritchies once they trust and feel safe with you! Also they lose all their fear if you have food. Gluttons. When feeding a horse, keep your hand flat. They're too stupid not to accidentally bite your fingers if you don't. If you do get bitten while giving food, they don't mean it, they're just really dumb and food motivated. You probably weren't looking for advice, but hey, can't hurt. Horses are some of my favourite animals and it's just like hearing someone is afraid of dogs for me. Also the same size = assholishness rule applies for horses. The smaller they are, the ruder they are.

[@mckayleepugmire9947]

I'm sharing a shelter with multiple teams right now, one of them includes a horse. He's part of the sub -race, draft horse, so his size and power stat are boosted, plus he took the unique police horse support class early in his play-through in the Texas meta, allowing him to drop the skittish disadvantage a lot of domesticated horses have. He got the cancer debuff a while ago, but that has since been removed and it opened up the retirement level. When police horses in the Texas meta reach the retirement level, their allies select a non police human player to act as their teammate for the rest of their lives, so that's how he ended up in this team

[@Epic0Studios]

Amazing video! I will say that the co-op team of the horse, human and "hawk" is actually a horse, human, and Golden Eagle. The Mongolian Eagle Hunters are renowned for this incredible team-building strat.

[@vetheros]

I just want to say how much I love the clip of the Donkey using his "Superrman Dive" ability on the party of Human Players.

[@macattackmicmac]

I think you're underestimating the Donkey's intimate debuff it can deal with the scream skill. This alone can break the willpower of many predators. They also make great team players, though if charisma stat of their partner is too low, they will often go rogue.

[@namelessnavnls8060]

What amuses me about about horses is that they can kinda walk/run while kicking, as seen in this Dressage mission clip. 5:12 It's SUPER OP that they can move in the middle of such a huge, balancing-type attack but also kind of hilarious.

[@rockfri]

Yeah, it has a huge hit-box and only took very few frames to land a critical kick. By far, the most OP kicker of the current metagame.

[@janpavel1441]

And then the humans came in started giving them hoof armor, for reasons unknown to the horses, to make their kicks even more potent.

[@jendralhxr]

7:51 well worded, those Mongols eagle-horse-warrior combo is definitely OP of epic proportion

[@dragonwithamonocle]

I can never get over using golden eagles for falconry. It's not called 'eaglery,' so many people would use things as small as kestrels up to medium hawks like goshawks and red tails. But the Mongols never did anything halfway apparently, and went for one of the largest birds of prey alive today. And golden eagles are sassy, proud, and haughty birds, too. They can and will hold grudges, and have the capability to seriously mess you up if they want to.

[@mannyfernandez2983]

personally, i think a simple machine gun or assault rifle is more effective than that strategy. however, i can see its merit!!

[@cheese.6412]

VERY surprised that the many, many health issues that horses can run into weren't brought up. I used to work with them and by god... they are surprisingly fragile. If they break a leg too severely, they can't lay down long enough for it to heal without running into multi-organ failure (i.e. more than like, a few hours. They literally start to crush their own organs if they stay down for even an hour), so the leg isn't ever going to heal. Also, bc of how they're built, they have VERY high blood pressure, especially when running, and are prone to heart and other cardiovascular issues. They actually developed specialized veins to help with the blood pressure, but it just made new heart issues for them, and their blood pressure is still too high. They also have very weak diaphragms for animals that's main purpose is to run, so a respiratory infection will cripple the horse instantly because their lungs are Weak As Shit. Speaking of their lungs, they just, stop actively breathing when running, relying instead on their organs swinging around to make them breathe. Which is efficient! But simultaneously means their insides/abdominals is way too flexible compared to what it should be, so they get so many hernias and other intestinal/organ issues from it all just sloshing around willy nilly. And this is naming just a FEW problems (I am not even getting into how breaking a leg also technically asphyxiates them a wee bit and gives them more heart problems, somehow. Or how paranoid, skittish, and violent they can be, holy fuck.)

[@eznorelol1174]

Good video, however, in donkeys defense, you forgot to mention the "Stubborn" passive, that gives them a considerable morale and resistance boost, as well as the ability "Calling" which allows them to call party members, like humans. Not only that, but some have also learned one of the most toxic race abilities "Spit" used by llamas, a well aimed spit can temporaly blind enemies.

[@mohammedjafer9265]

Okay I am officially lost

[@Kyle_1068]

An ant tier list would be unbeliavable content. Great video as always, no one can compete when it comes to tier lists

[@sandro5535]

What would be the lowest tier? Maybe Acorn ant or some plant specialized ants would be down to B? He probably would have to make S- and S+ to describe most species

[@kyltredragmire4939]

@@sandro5535 Ants can't go above S because that'd place them above humans. Humans have ant killer. Failing ant killer, napalm. Checkmate ants.

[@andylentz4900]

Watching this channel grow has been such a joy. The content has always been top quality, but to see that highlighted by these top tier edits now… wow. Maybe there is justice in this world after all.

[@eljugadorescaldenc4002]

Sincerely is so well made how you use game terminology to explain animals. Your channel is so amazing!