Are Lighter and Yanagi Bait or Must Have? Who is Better to Summon For You - Zenless Zone Zero

[@DarkHeroGacha]

Who's saving for 🔥Lighter or ⚡Yanagi ?? I still have PTSD from Genshin 😩😭Some images got fried during the rendering of the video, sorry about that!

[@kailaniivo]

I'm skipping Burnice and Yanagi in hopes of getting Lighter, Miyabi and the other dude after her. Along with their W-2... I will need lots of luck 😂

[@vladys001]

Burnice turned my account from no-anomaly to anomaly-centered, so skipping Ligher to get Yanagi. I got Caesar and just got Lycaon, not sure if Lighter will add anything noticeable to my account (of course I want him, but you can't always get all what you want -_-)

[@null4916]

I’m pulling for lighter for two very big reasons: 1) I do not have a limited stunner, I missed out on Qingyi since I wasn’t playing the game at the time, and I have yet to pull a Koleda or a Lycaon since my account is fairly new (I pulled Ellen and that was it) 2) He’s voiced by Aleks le

[@beatricesaporito3698]

3. Hes hot and hes so Wolfhood coded

[@akutgawa]

4. MEN🥰🥰

[@beatricesaporito3698]

@@akutgawa REAL

[@Markgonaut]

I need my biker bang faction to be completed AND a lowkey boyfailure at that too. LET'S GO

[@DESTROYEROFGOD5]

Itll be nice having a rare character so I'll pull Lighter for collection purposes. I can predict Lighter will be probably one of the only few limited S male characters to ever release probably this year or the next two years even (if this game will take the waifu route). Itll be like a nice plaque

[@black_sinister]

Rerols exist dude he’s banner will comeback…

[@DESTROYEROFGOD5]

@@black_sinister Anyone who plays gacha games know that. What's the problem?

[@Glacier_Noir]

Well from what we can see from their other games. No doubt the ratio of male to female characters will be 2(M):6(F). So more female characters than males unfortunately. 🤔❓😗❓ . . . Though I do wonder if there'll be a very unique gacha that doesn't follow this route but is 5:5 ratio, fan services to both genders, and range of character designs in hairstyles, skin, gear and armor, and so forth? Hopefully so. 😙🤙🤙

[@DESTROYEROFGOD5]

@@Glacier_Noir I doubt it, it would be more nice to have more homies but it's only natural for them to take the 'safe route' Though with the rise of games like LADS which is basically a gooner game for girls, maybe it'll give them a push to take a risk and give us more cool guys to play as

[@Glacier_Noir]

@@DESTROYEROFGOD5 Fr fr~. More cool dudes~! 😎👍👍

[@ivanlawrenceco656]

i love anomaly characters therefore i will need yanagi to be in my collection

[@nguyenho5859]

Same

[@Vongolia]

Same, since i dont have Grace and i still have long way towards her guarrenteed

[@calvinjohnson0223]

Anomaly characters are so fun to play!

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

Anomaly takeover might as well invest!

[@mleong75]

Anomaly is the meta now and they are more fun to play overall. Having to go through a thick stun bar for a small window of dps isn't fun. It will only get worse as harder content releases.

[@qizeaqfile]

Games like HSR highly relied on meta and powercreep making people second-think their decision to pull characters. My PTSD of that game is constantly reminds me how good my decision to quit it. Powercreep on turned-based games is really bad. That's why I love the direction of ZZZ, which is now prioritized on survivability rather than timed. So if you can dodge or counters, everyone is viable forever. Not every gacha can maintain balanced characters for a long time like Genshin.

[@sanosuke1981]

Yanagi has been showcased in beta for a bit now she is onfield like Grace not off field focused like Burnice..so she is basically direct powercreep to Grace

[@SuperMegaLamp]

key takeaway: pick what you like; powercreeps are going to happen

[@whatthehelllll166]

Pulling for Lighter then saving for Harumasa

[@meowblaziken5634]

same, husbando drought is insane, but at least it easier to save xD

[@whatthehelllll166]

@@meowblaziken5634 exactly and I have a guaranteed so I just need to wait 😀

[@BlazeLibra]

good luck if they're back to back banners 💀

[@kroxas5772]

This is the way

[@thekaibenz]

I'm going for Yanagi, Harumasa and Miyabi. Hoyo most likely gonna release Miyabi on Chinese New Year, so plenty of time to acc polys. Goodluck everyone on your pulls! Also, Void Hunters gonna come soon, I speculate more Ether agents coming 👀

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

We have an entire new faction in concept art already going by the virtual idols. And one of them is a android who is rumored via leaks to be a ether anomaly agent.

[@BrandedBreacher]

Yeah. Miyabi will be the first playable Void Hunter.

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

Factually correct. She is our first confirmed void hunter so far as a playable agent.

[@ronaldrodriguez14]

Considering that Miyabi is coming in the patch after this one, and that I must beat the 50/50, I think I'll save all my tapes and polychrome. They look great though

[@divioday]

Anby cover to the rescue :). On topic though, exactly HSR taught me that I better pull characters I would like go with eidolons/cons/scapes/whatever. If I'm to play for long - I will see reruns. If I'm to see reruns - I'm to consider pulling characters I've already built and comfortable with. If I'm to consider pull on reruns without budgeting hundreds-thousands real currencies then... well... might as well pull only by character design :).

[@captainnikolai25]

I'm super excited for Lighter, but after watching this vid, I'm on the fence about pulling him. I built a SoC Disorder team (Burnice, Piper, Lucy) that's performing really well. I thought about replacing Lucy with Lighter, but her Cheer On buff is way too important, especially for Piper as my DPS. I wouldn't know where to put Lighter otherwise...

[@notoriouscasual5004]

Could skip lighter and go for either Miyabi or Yanagi. Yanagi would be an insane replacement for piper since she and burnice activate eachothers ability

[@captainnikolai25]

@@notoriouscasual5004 I'm mostly in the dark when it comes to future characters until the tech demo vids drop. Miyabi I've been super hyped for since I first saw her, but I considered not pulling for her since I have Ellen. As well, Ice on a Disorder team seems kind of bad, because Freeze only lasts after a couple of hits for a burst of damage.

[@BlazeLibra]

I'm probably gonna say fuck it and build Lighter DPS

[@titomii893]

Pulling for Lighter cause he's HOT HOT

[@FinnHuman6378]

I have all the stun units and M2 Koleda. I'm still pulling for Lighter since I believe he has better value and design lol

[@lexmats6709]

Im definitely rolling for Yanagi. Part of the reason is because my fledgling account desperately needs its first S rank DPS. The main reason is because of bewbs, asses, and horny.

[@dickysiahaya6612]

Love playing with grace and the electric team, most likely gonna pull yanagi

[@Agentepeluche]

The three soldier 11 mains gona be happy..

[@ChinoWantan]

I was planning to pull Lighter for my S11 and Lucy team

[@Loppy_Hausen]

Lighter is definitely a waifu pull for me. I just have to hope his kit will be equally fire. 😎

[@mohandxx060]

I think his kit was shown in the last live stream and they said we can play him at one of the upcoming events.

[@Loppy_Hausen]

@@mohandxx060 they showed a highlight but no stats yet. Maybe I'll re-watch in case I tuned it out.

[@ozysalt4831]

Lighter wifu? No bro he husbando

[@Loppy_Hausen]

@ozysalt4831 tomato potato, but nah I gotcha. Going into this game I wasn't thinking we'd get a lot of opportunities for bro units to be so cool.

[@ozysalt4831]

@@Loppy_Hausen yea

[@totalwayne3089]

Good points you mentioned! I do only disagree with Yanagi being off-field exklusive. You can force her to be Off field with Chaos Jazz. It really depends on your 3rd agent If you also got Burnice on your Team. Let's say Harumasa is the 3rd agent being on-field - then yes! If it is a supporter of your choice then you rather want to play Yanagi as on-fielder. She could do both but prefers on-field in my opinion.

[@MrNajie]

I think burnice, lighter and miyabi will be the a top tier team based on what they've said they do. Burnice benefits from lighters passive and just gets to be off field. People have said miyabi is ice attack or ice anomaly, either way she will be on field, benefiting from a stunner that buffs her ice damage. I lost my 50/50 for burnice so I'll have to wait to get the trio

[@RoflCannon6]

I just want all the sons of calydon. They’re my new comfort dorks

[@FreakGeSt]

Idk, the powercreep in this game I feel is gonna me more similar to GI than HSR because is an action game, turn base RPGs are more harder to make unique characters that's why the powercreep in HSR was really fast, GI on the other hand is less relevant and slower, took 2 year for Hu Tao get "powercreep" with Arlechino, but that's because Arle is more comfy to play, not because Hu Tao's dmg is not on par.

[@jaggerhintora]

Did you forget about Solider 11 being a fire attacker? I am pulling lighter for Solider 11, Lucy and him for a fire shred team.

[@keyto5526]

I use Ben bigger against ether weak enemy and zhu Yuan against fire weak enemy and still get s rank in shiyu defence. so it is fine to skip as long as you don't fight enemy that is resistance to your element. in shiyu defence, i just need to look at enemy resistance rather than weakness.

[@mohdnormohdaminnullah4064]

I enjoy Yanagi free disorder so much.. together with Lucy and piper.. disorder is aplenty

[@beatriceb6695]

I'm really tempted by Lighter's design, but I already have Koleda and Lycon (I've lost all the 50/50s so far), so probably I'll keep trying to get Burnice. As for Yanagi, her design is too much, I really don't like her, so she's an easy skip for me!

[@prophetedubaroque5136]

So i'm not the only one that dislike yanagi design. I'll probably pull lighter because he is cool and i have no good stunner yet

[@DabGodSauceKing]

@@prophetedubaroque5136I’m the opposite because I’m a sucker for glasses 🤓

[@prophetedubaroque5136]

@@DabGodSauceKing Fair enough, may your pulls be bountyful.

[@jotunn6709]

I might pull for both but again I already got Grace and I have a thing for anomaly characters

[@chillnchime]

@@DabGodSauceKing You mean "A hot waifu, with glasses" 🗿🗿🗿

[@hondacivet]

I will probably go for Yanagi especially since it looks like I will probably not get Burnice (lost 50/50) and I've never gotten Grace.. Anomaly is also just a cool playstyle.

[@scarletpsychowolf3578]

Me before the 1.3 livestream: "Lighter. Not a furry man. Skip." *1.3 livestream reveals that he buffs fire and ice dmg, plus synergize s with Attack types* "... FUCK!"

[@asyrafshuk]

I like variety of element. Undecided whether yanagi/harumasa as my electric dps. We'll see 😙

[@Mariosoa.]

For me they are bait since their roles already exists, and it’s the belobog sisters. I suggest waiting for unique combinations that don’t exist yet, I am saving for another ether character since we only got 2.

[@KingDarkness100]

This video came out at a poor time after the 1.3 livestream we know Yanagi aint gonna be Off-field anomaly lol

[@atlasdgen]

I just need an Ice attack or anomaly unit to complete all elemental teams, I quite hate stunners atm because they do take a lot of on field time and you need to build them for damage or else your clear time would be affected.

[@doriansz3130]

If I had Grace I would skip Yanagi ,but since I don't have I might try her banner and hope to win 50/50 or atleast lose to Grace

[@stonerhino83]

Grace was the first S rank I pulled, and I am still going for Yanagi. Grace's doesn't do any damage except for her EX special, so you can't even clear trash with her.

[@doriansz3130]

@@stonerhino83 But I got Burnice I think they can work together. Do you have Burnice?

[@jonathanowen7678]

I may be misinformed, but Lighter's voice actor is the same guy as Yuji/Sukuna from Jujitsu Kaisen. I am a fan, but I'm also more stoner than otaku lol😅

[@Xjesus14X]

I only have Anby for stun so im gettin Lighter. Is Soldier not a good atk unit for Lighter? Also i dnt feel that Grace is a on fielder unless u just feel like leaving her on.

[@TheBloodyEffect]

i can hear Digimon World File City song at the background at @4:00

[@parametersisabanger]

DAMN IT i love yanagi moveset it so sick but im saving my pulls for miyabi so skiip

[@j3t_l4g17]

i feel like Yanagi is what people expect from Miyabi and miyabi will be bait

[@MGS-lore-enthusiast]

brother did NOT see the leaks😭

[@Playay.]

my only concern for pulling yanagi is, is she gonna be a good company for miyabi? cuz i have like 40k pulls for miyabi but i want her premium team too, might involve yanagi later

[@alphatd7544]

Lighter and miyabi that's what i am going for and I will not let this video weaken my determination 😤

[@_asperry_5787]

I’m still waiting for the angel girl with pink hair that we saw in that one video

[@oscaroska7613]

Which one after Burnice ?

[@Tyberes]

Skipping Yanagi, because even if she's falling out of Meta I still have Grace. Pulling for Lighter because He's cool as hell and also the S11/Burnice/Lighter team is gonna be nasty.

[@indigorune]

I'm saving for lighter because 😍

[@plutoplays528]

In the live stream it said lighter will increase fire dmg and ice dmg

[@justhere-uu6mw]

I literally got grace and lycon and have no limited character since I started playing the game again lately And i am probably going for yanagi anyways

[@Rafael-n7n]

I saw an enemy that was immune to anomaly build up, I think 1.x players will be deleting the game once crit rolls out in 2.x forward lmao

[@chito2701]

as awesome as this two agents are, i'll probably going to skip both Yanagi and Lighter because i don't have enough resource for pulls.

[@PiplupIsHere]

But what if you don’t have ceaser and you have Burnice and Jane Doe, will Lighter be reliable on my team still?

[@pabloruiz821]

Damn, these where easy skips to me, but the Yanagi gameplay sounds fun AF

[@headlesshiidra]

I got grace from standard as my first S rank, than got her wengine shortly after. I'm skipping glasses girl and lighter because I also got koleda offbanner for burnice. Let's me save all that for miyabi hopefully soon

[@jasonguarnieri4127]

I pulling for Yanagi and you can't stop me.

[@SpacePiez]

Pulling Lighter to finish the Sons of Calydon. Then skipping Yanagi for Miyabi 🔥

[@shadowrom8296]

Sure thing the "stun" type is in an odd situation now with Anomaly meta all over the place. thx for the vid !

[@GenesisGaming_]

I have burnice and wanna go for yanagi directly...but now when i played burnice...i realise that she definitely needs a shield unit which is caeser and also stun unit...so please tell me whether i go for lighter a stun or go for yanagi... I don't have caeser and i am facing difficulty in playing burnice...please help

[@Hreimdal]

Why do you need a shielder for Burnice? She is an off-field unit, you only bring her on field when her heat gauge is running out to replenish it and reapply burn/scorch on the enemies then swap off her again. Plus she has 40% dmg reduction while channeling her ex-special attack. Don't really need a shielder for that.

[@Yasviele]

Hard skip, I don't need another anomaly electro I need an attacker electro for Qingyi and I have Grace too

[@Chaos1091]

If leaks are true that Harumasa is an Shock attacker then he might be for you.

[@karllandicho5372]

Thanks for your feedback, Tho i would skip both of em and wait for either miyabi or jane doe 🫶

[@Ajax-keel]

Knowing how rare male characters will be since hoyo wanted to “return to the good ol’ days” I’ll pull lighter

[@Gxngstad]

Havent been interested in anyone since jane... Lighter is funny and cool. I'm pulling 👍

[@pinkytomato1496]

If i don't get that robot mother i Will pull Yanagi or still saving for Miyabi 👌

[@ahmadmelhem1499]

Skip, koleda is too strong as fire stunner and we already have electric anamoly. Yanagi could be worth if she have been ether anamoly.

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

Yanagi can act as a off field or on field anomaly agent with her kit or the lead dps for a mono electric team… She’s just a better grace due to the inherent nature of being a limited s rank… her kits already setup to outperform grace in all aspects (maybe not by astronomical bounds but the numbers she can output already are far above grace). Lighter buffs bother ice and fire damage by 20%, decrease fire/ice res by 15%, gains a damage buff, has higher stun multipliers, increases the stun window by an extra 3 seconds, has faster combos, has higher daze multipliers, and can auto trigger an off field assist with his morale mechanic… he’s literally a better Koleda like im sorry…😕

[@hua..]

Koleda doesn't buff nearly as much as Lighter, Grace is horseshit

[@gammaxten]

@@hua.. savage 😂

[@Replosioned]

Koleda is too strong. But she is tier 1.5 - 2

[@Liger_Soba]

@@CrimsonKaiserx8 Yanagi is most definitely not a unit you want to be playing off-field given how she’s supposed to proc disorders and polarity disorders as much as possible. It’s why burnice is her best teammate for anomaly parings, because she won’t take much field time from yanagi but still be able to apply fire anomaly quickly and while off-field entirely. (Honestly the only thing holding this team back is the fact that electric weak enemies are usually resistant to fire based attacks while fire weak enemies are usually resistant to electric based attacks)

[@sanfrancisco1000]

I really wanted to get lighter cause s rank male character but the fact is that I already have koleda and personally she is my absolute favorite character, so I refuse to replace her role as fire stun, I'm mostly planning on getting yanagi so I can pair her with seth and anby, a anby being a placeholder until the qingyi banner rerun (I never got qing yi)

[@Azteck9]

Already got Grace, and one day, Koleda will come home. I'm set though with Sol 11, Burnice, and Lucy for my all mono 🔥 team. I'm waiting on another 🧊 character because I cant get Lycaon to save my life... And the very moment they start that powercreep nonsense ZZZ is over for me. Pulling characters to win a challenging mode is stupid. Especially when you spend 1600 poly to try and obtain but the mode rewards you with 90 poly maximum and chump change dennies. FOH. Im also getting very tired of gacha game slow material farming. 1 more ice. 1 more ether and Im done summoning for good. 🎉

[@thacaptain8484]

I need to save up for when Jane doe comes back…if she ever does :(

[@Hadeshi.]

My current teams: #1 - Jane, Seth, Caesar #2 - Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, Nicole #3 - Ellen, Lycaon, Soukaku I have Burnice, but she'll go on my future team: #4 - Miyabi, Lighter, Burnice Skipping Yanagi and Harumasa...

[@insertnamehere2022]

Ah yes we're powercreeping the standard banner characters already

[@apuff11]

If tell me you saw the leaks without tellin me you saw the leaks was a video. Great Job!

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

He clearly saw the leaks it’s obvious he’s duckin the fact he’s seen em… lighters been confirmed forever to buff fire and ice attack agents…😕

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

He definitely saw the leaks theyve been out forever like idk why he’s obviously hiding the blatant fact he has…😑

[@gabbyx3949]

They both look cool and nice to have, but I'm not passing up my chance with my guaranteed Miyabi.

[@lyonchemsou1827]

Well I don't have Jane and burnice cuz I always lose my 50/50 but I like yanagi but because I have both of them am afraid that if I roll for her it will be a waste cuz right now I need characters to clear shiyu defense to get more resources to roll for characters so some advicese please

[@randomkid8203]

Suprise Light is lycaon but both fire and ice

[@roveencheong2946]

Well power creep is the name of the game, might as well pull who you like more and enjoy them

[@Pwaa_Fan]

I gyatt to have yanagi in my squad

[@julioraehan]

When is the drip market drop?

[@tabkg5802]

Yanagi (and honestly Lighter too) seem cool but I'm broke and need Miyabi so unfortunately 😔

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

Early leaks show Miyabi is gonna be ice anomaly so yeah… hate say I told yah so but I told yah so…😕

[@Kaiyo__Nami]

im js gna go for lighter harumasa then save ig😭😭 im so scared they get powercreeped the hsr ptsd so real

[@pemixlp]

I hope that Yanagis is onfield cuz i have caesar and burnice and i want to Yanagi to be main DPS

[@bort5050]

Kinda like lighter cuz of his ORA ORA ORA ORA moveset but the damage boost capabilities of yanagi tho😢

[@honeyntea139]

imma pull lighter, literally my fav character and I only have lycaon as a stunner and I dont like how koleda plays so I wont really build her if she comes home

[@xxcringexx4574]

All my kit is fire i need electric and ether thats why im pulling for yanagi

[@Thatguyneb610]

Im not gonna lie I really wanna build lighter into a dps. like I really need a fire dps

[@CrimsonKaiserx8]

Lighter is a flat out skip dude is supposed to be a a rank fire attack unit but they changed him and he’s clearly Miyabi bait… She’s gonna be a ice anomaly unit so she can have synergy with the rest of section 6 so outside of that lighter is a skip tell more attack units get released into the agent pool…😕

[@01_M1ku_39]

Meta < I just want to collect all H.S.O.S 6 squad Like how I completed my N.E.P.S. squad

[@jonathanjimenez495]

Skipping both and going all or nothing on Miyabi

[@beserklee290]

That's chaos jazz is for Harumasa not for Yanagi

[@Lordmaster316]

I already have Koleda built So i dont need Fire Stunner I dont have Grace and i dont like Anton's gameplay So i need Electric Dps

[@edwin8972]

Harumasa is apparently going to be electric dps and he's just one patch ahead

[@Lordmaster316]

@@edwin8972 but he is A rank right? not saying A rank is Bad even Billy can clear Shiyu Def but S rank will always be better well im going for Yanagi just because she is good partner with my Burnice

[@kuvrut7747]

It's miyabi, burnice and lighter.

[@mrraf5250]

Lighter for my Soldier 11 team cause i dont have Koleda for stunner.

[@kirkmineblox3065]

I have to skip yanagi, i even made my own plan to get lighter and ellen's rerun

[@EROC601PLAYZ]

Im pulling Lighter simply because he fights with his hands....thats it thats all.....

[@SirMitsuruji5]

I like them both but skipping still. I want an Attacker!

[@hogroad]

yeeeezs

[@Berkut888Gaming]

Digimon World music heh

[@Onikabutofirstsisterlater]

I feel both has equal value, Yanagi being the intended disorder core, and Lighter opens up Miyabi Burnice comp, if you're a new player then Yanagi is no brainer, the argument "DPS is temporary, support is eternal" is Genshin's language, unless that support's name starts with Cheese and ends with SAR, you need at least 1 actual DPS if you wanna clear content comfortably in this game with minimum investment.

[@sense6472]

Calm down bro. It's common sense to roll for a DPS on a new account in any game.

[@Onikabutofirstsisterlater]

@@sense6472 lol aight XD

[@apathyreaper5323]

@@sense6472 DPS wise? You want Anomaly dude lol if a new player is getting baited with atk base they have to do the usual crit / crit damage sub stats to even compare.

[@张钰泽-b5u]

Should I pull Yanagi or Burnice? I have 3 S rank which are Ceasar Koleda and 11

[@Onikabutofirstsisterlater]

@@张钰泽-b5u I'd say go for Burnice, you'll play 2 pyro team for a while, if you fail, go for Nagi, but what about your A ranks?

[@SolaireOfToast]

Yanagi is the ultimate skip. Like she is the 4 star, I would mean whole talking about 4 star

[@MultiWouf]

I love my female characters with big chests so I'm interested in yanagi

[@angelslastwish8870]

I need both because Lighters VA is also Solo Levelings VA 😭😭

[@thekaibenz]

eng or japanese va?

[@MosesX-Labs]

​​@@thekaibenz Aleks Le, the English VA

[@MosesX-Labs]

Same but instead for "ORPHEUS" and "BEAST MODE BABY"

[@angelslastwish8870]

@ English

[@anthonycrayne2835]

I have a fire stunner and an electric anomaly character. So ez skip.

[@Klee_and_Jean]

Sorry but Miyabi is my love❤