Are Men Killing the Planet?

[@OurChangingClimate]

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[@HanSolo__]

Without rapid events like the eruption of volcanos or meteorites crushing the planet, a 5'C warming up the entire climate in 75 years is impossible. The "white, powerful males" have nothing to do with climate change. Currently, the influence has China, India and a small, central portion of Africa. Plus, maybe a low % South America. It is opposite to what is shown in the video. White people are a minority in all those regions.

[@marinakukso]

this is an excellent video. i especially appreciated the historical context showing how the roots of science are tied to domination of nature. this video is feminist praxis.

[@ethiennefogaca3529]

Hello! First of all, I want to declare that I love your videos, they're all so informative and are always my go to. With that in mind, can I ask just a little thing? Instead of calling people from USA as Americans, could you please use US Americans? It's not a big thing, just two more letters, and since we're talking about oppression, and you seem really interested in how these small aggressions leads to major problems in our society, I thought it would be nice to bring this at discussion. Since there's a whole history about how calling USA as "America" lead to violence against other cultures and even dictatorships in South America, and since this is not discussed like, at all, in the USA, I would love if you could take this "new term" at consideration :)

[@tiffanyoakes1978]

Unless the US and 1st world choose to re design our cities, in order to allow people access to needs via walking and biking, and create legislation that helps keeps housing in these redesigned cities affordable, we will continue to be bound to the fossil fuel and rare mining industries. Electric cars are not cleaner. They are not a solution, just another way to clean our first World suburbs so we do not have to see the destruction and slavary that our lifestyles necessitate.

[@jamesl1806]

Having read 'Soft Patriarchs; New Men' by Brian Wilcox, I'm actually trying to be more Patriarchal as statistically it leads to happier relationships.

[@BluetheRaccoon]

Why is it so hard to understand that poisoning "our" air to spite us is also poisoning their own air?

[@eksbocks9438]

Their mind can't process it. All they care about is watching someone get "triggered." The same way a weird guy would abuse animals as a kid.

[@andreysokolov8974]

@@eksbocks9438 All of this is mainly american talking points....I mean afterall I'm not surprised all of the Degeneracy came from yoir country...That's why the world is distancing itself....That's why I support countries like ghana for their achievements...and the rest is following...Yeah Nuke the degenerate west especially the USA

[@matbettez3495]

They're not doing it to spite you. That's just what your led to believe.

[@BlueUncia]

@@matbettez3495 Why are they doing it then?

[@trademisconception9816]

@@eksbocks9438triggering the libs. That is really what their ideology has become.

[@someguy2135]

The video didn't mention this aspect of Bolsonaro's policies- "While the wildfires raging in the Amazon rainforest may constitute an “international crisis,” they are hardly an accident. The vast majority of the fires have been set by loggers and ranchers to clear land for cattle. The practice is on the rise, encouraged by Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s populist pro-business president, who is backed by the country’s so-called “beef caucus.” While this may be business as usual for Brazil’s beef farmers, the rest of the world is looking on in horror. So, for those wondering how they could help save the rainforest, known as “the planet’s lungs” for producing about 20% of the world’s oxygen, the answer may be simple. Eat less meat."- CNN Another reason they burn the Amazon is to grow soy. "More than three-quarters (77%) of global soy is fed to livestock for meat and dairy production. Most of the rest is used for biofuels, industry or vegetable oils. Just 7% of soy is used directly for human food products such as tofu, soy milk, edamame beans, and tempeh." -Our World in Data Brazil is one of the world's top exporters of beef and soy. Boycott animal products. If you don't, at least boycott beef! Since cows are the most environmentally destructive farm animal, you should also boycott dairy.

[@rednegativity2003]

As an animal rights advocate and vegan, hard agree. But just so you know, the channel discussed this sort of thing at length in the video they released right before this video, which was all about veganism and the need to be even more ambitious than that, pursuing not only lifestyle diet changes but structural and systemic changes that actually strike at the core of the meat industrial complex.

[@someguy2135]

@@rednegativity2003 Kudos for your veganism and activism. I spend a considerable amount of time and effort in the comments section of YT and on Reddit trying to correct misconceptions, and advocate for veganism. 🌱

[@someguy2135]

@@rednegativity2003 I did see that video and made extensive comments under it. I thought he could have been more clear that being an environmentalist may not end with boycotting animal products, but it should start with it. We cannot achieve the goal of limiting global warming to 1.5- 2 degrees without ending animal agriculture as we know it. "New research from GRAIN and IATP shows that: Together, the world’s top five meat and dairy corporations are now responsible for more annual greenhouse gas emissions than Exxon, Shell or BP. By 2050, we must reduce global emissions by 38 billion tons to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius. If all other sectors follow that path while the meat and dairy industry’s growth continues as projected, the livestock sector could eat up 80% of the allowable GHG budget in just 32 years. Most of the top 35 global meat and dairy giants either do not report or underreport their emissions. Only four of them provide complete, credible emissions estimates. Fourteen of the 35 companies have announced some form of emission reduction targets. Of these, only six have targets that include supply chain emissions, yet these emissions can account for up to 90% of total emissions. The six companies that do pledge cuts in supply chain emissions are simultaneously pushing for growth in production and exports, driving their overall emissions up regardless of their intention to reduce emissions per kilo of milk or meat produced. To avert climate catastrophe, we must reduce production and consumption of meat and dairy in overproducing and overconsuming countries and in affluent populations globally, while supporting a transition to agroecology."-G.R.A.I.N. Title, etc. follow- "Emissions impossible: How big meat and dairy are heating up the planet by GRAIN and the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP) | 18 Jul 2018 Climate"

[@jimk8520]

I won’t argue for or against veganism but I will argue that it is just a bandaid to the bigger problem. There are too many people on the planet and “we” are inherently destructive. Nature, when left alone (absent people) will fix itself and this is a proven fact.

[@infidelheretic923]

Didn’t Bolsonaro lose his re-election? Like Trump he fumbled the coronavirus so badly his people grew sick of him. Why is he still relevant?

[@ecocodex4431]

People saying "it's more manly to protect the planet, etc" are missing the fact that the idea of attributing "manliness" or "girliness" etc to behaviors, objects, and ideas, is one of the very reasons we are in this mess.

[@georgecisneros5281]

Citation?

[@TheCumulusClimber]

@@georgecisneros5281 "The Science of Science Communication Against Climate Change Tribalism: We Gamble with the Future by Dehumanizing Our Opponents"

[@MadsNordholm]

I agree! We need to stop labelling and pointing fingers. All that matters is nurturing an all encompassing love for all life, then stereotypes will fade and our planet will flourish

[@gabrieldavis7128]

Sounds like a pretty girly thing to say, ngl fr fr

[@decrepitworld3634]

Now make a video of attributing all negative values to Femininity.. You can spin the narrative however you want.. people watching this video and are convinced by this presentation are being gas lit.. think for yourselves.. Don't be a sheep

[@uncomplicatedi]

For all those who thing patriarchy = all men just go to 23:30 Patriarchy is a power structure not a group Patriarchy is a social and cultural indoctrination not a bunch of men.

[@MrLense]

Basically what American Pyscho warned us about, but instead everyone just uses it as "based" memes

[@MrLense]

@@N0Xa880iUL American Psycho is basically about toxic masculinity

[@Ninjaananas]

@@N0Xa880iUL Patrick Bateman is supposed to be a villain. And you know the movie hits the nail right onto its head when people glorify him. Exactly the same thing with a lot of people who thought Homelander was supposed to be a hero. Shows that the social commentary was on point. Another example, somewhat of the OG Patrick Bateman, was Gordon Gekko. Supposed to be a villain but people tuck his greed for wisdome and some even started dressing like him. By the way, Bateman also dressed like Gekko at times.

[@SuperTonyony]

Young right-wing males have managed to thoroughly miss the point of numerous movies. As the author of "Fight Club" has pointed out, Tyler Durden was the villain of that story.

[@USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER]

He does skincare and has a clean apartment and i do skincare and have a clean apartment so there’s no way to tell if patrick bateman is a good guy or not

[@Ninjaananas]

@@SuperTonyony The redpill is the best example for this.

[@kristaw206]

Real men work with nature, not against it. I think of my father who is currently helping monarch caterpillars turn into butterflies, keeping them safe until he can set them free! Perfect example.

[@PokemeisterSarabicum]

Agree. Permaculture is the way to the future.

[@Sam-ve4tx]

Careful. Perpetuating the idea that there's a "real man" is just doing the same thing hegemonic masculinity currently does. It's just moving the target. What we should really do is deconstruct the idea that people have to be "good men" or "good women," and just encourage people to be good to each other and the world we live in. Attempting to force someone's hand by guilt tripping them into another hegemonic gender norm perpetuates harm and kicks the can down the road.

[@shmockette7158]

Actually you're a part of the issue. There is no such thing as a real man. A man is a man.

[@infidelheretic923]

We have simple problem with a complicated set of solutions needed. This really isn’t the time or place to argue about what a “real man” would do. Working with nature where it’s feasible is good. But things aren’t inherently evil because they “go against nature”.

[@AnthonyBolognese710]

Don’t talk to us about what “real men” are and aren’t. We know how you’d react if men say anything about women.

[@MrLeafeater]

Still watching, but these guys aren't "letting it die", they're killing it every day, with their actions.

[@eksbocks9438]

Some almost to the fullest extent of that word.

[@Jacobknipples]

“The world isn’t dying, it’s being killed, and the people who are killing it have names and addresses.” -Utah Phillips

[@kevincrady2831]

In today's parlance, "killing it every day" is treated as a _good_ thing.

[@CordeliaWagner]

Most of my interactions with men are very negative. I just say "please leave me alone" and they get super angry, yelling at me while standing in line at the grocery store. I wish for a world with a biological women only country. I would be the first to move there and never ever look back.

[@migspeculates]

​@@CordeliaWagnersad anecdotes, sad conclusion, sad resolution

[@End_Orca_Captivity]

Sadly, my mum said something similar to Bacon, "nature must be tamed"; she used to have a beautiful garden that grew strawberries, beans, elderberries and we had a small peach tree and lawn and foxes used to visit. Over the years, she systematically cut everything down and threw it out, so now she just has a sad green rectangle. Even though this was over 20 years ago, it stayed with me how tragic it was she thought and did that. With regard to the 'rolling coal' thing (new to me), if these are typically blue-collar, white men, don't they work the land? Do they not see climate-crisis for themselves when working in construction in overbearing heat conditions? Do they not understand that the planet will always 'win', it's us as a species that will lose along with the animals and flora that lose with us? I highly recommend people interested in these issues also watch the lectures and interviews of soil protector Vandana Shiva.

[@alixmordant489]

So sad about the garden. But it is so normal in our days. Here in Germany, order and cleanliness are seen as some of the most important character traits by most people. Which lead to gardens being those sad grassy rectangles you mentioned. Meanwhile, animals, insects and wild plants are going down. A study showed that insect live is down at least 75 percent in Germany over the length of 25 years, flying insects even more than 80 percent. It is making me sad and helpless. I have a rented garden that is looking rather wild, lots of flowers, bushes and trees. But I get lots of dislike, sometimes even hate, and pressure to change, to be more orderly. At least every Saturday, the noise of mowers in the neighbourhood is deafening. Hardly a bee or a butterfly lives in those boring gardens. Also no birds, hedgehogs, toads etc. Still, neighbours rather get angry with people like me than to give nature a chance.

[@lifesymbiont5769]

@@alixmordant489 Don't make your garden more orderly, wild gardens are some of the most beautiful things. Don't let yourself get dragged down by people who don't know any better.

[@omarayyash3275]

Prov. 24:27 "Prepare your outside work, Make it fit for yourself in the field; And afterward build your house." Seems so contradictory to this proverb.

[@karl_margs]

6:29 it's hilarious that men think it's more manly to combust a little gasoline than use the manly power of their legs to get somewhere

[@vylbird8014]

It's not just about masculinity, it's about status expressed through wealth. Walking or public transport is what poor people do, who can't afford a car.

[@_x__q]

Or maybe it’s just fun to go fast.

[@joshieecs]

​@@_x__qthen they would drive an electric, giant gas chuggers at pathetically weak compared to the acceleration of even mid EVs

[@felixmoore6781]

Your statement implies that I'm not a man. And yet I am. So it must be wrong. I guess that happens when you generalize excessively.

[@hendrsb33]

"... only a Nobody walks in L.A. ..."

[@otterhands8800]

this is something that I felt but never knew how to place my finger on what exactly it was, amazing video as always. I think the thing that kills my hope is that people who are married to the patriarchal system don't seem to be up to even consider change. Feels like we're just watching the planet die in the hands of insecure people

[@planetvegan7843]

You are part of the problem if you are not plant based.

[@kevincrady2831]

@@BenDover84932Do you feel more dominant now?

[@Saurabhgupta23671]

​@@BenDover84932you've lost your ability to think to reason

[@CordeliaWagner]

Marriage is just another outdated wortless custum. Society develops.

[@decrepitworld3634]

Now make a video of attributing all negative values to Femininity.. You can spin the narrative however you want.. people watching this video and are convinced by this presentation are being gas lit.. think for yourselves.. Don't be a sheep

[@beebo7071]

Speaking on trucks for a bit, the pickup truck has lost all utility and abandoned it for what patriarchal norms value. Trucks are big and tall, which makes it a pain and completely impractical to lift and move heavy objects around. In modern trucks half of the vehicles length is dedicated to passenger room rather than bed space to the point where it can’t contain even standard lengths of timber. My granddad had an old Toyota pickup truck which is smaller than a modern Toyota car and can carry almost anything we can throw at it. It is the perfect pickup truck but is completely absent from the North American market

[@qjtvaddict]

North America is an open air loony bin

[@walleyeblue]

"Emotional Support Vehicles" - r/fuckcars

[@eKko0]

cant remember who did the video but they explained that, trucks get taxed differently or something cause theyre presumed more of a commercial vehicle so now companies make trucks that are barely trucks because you know, money

[@SolarPunkism]

I know this to be true because I participate in the world, but to see this in a video is so disgusting. I don't know any other word to describe this other than disgusting. Makes me sad. There's an easy way to live that's less disgusting, like love and care. Environmental stewardship is such an incredible act. It's easy to dominate, it's harder to work together. Ugh. Still I have hope

[@melelconquistador]

It's like the competition between "passive and carnivorous" ideas.

[@kingpest13]

Protecting the environment for the future of mankind is way more manly and strong than destroying it as a reaction to it being difficult.

[@yooro3948]

@@kingpest13 exactly, the act of destroying nature has no correlation to being a man or even trying to be "manly" at all

[@francookie9353]

​@@kingpest13More like, it doesn't f.cking matter whether we redefine it as "more manly". It's the sensible, long-term survivalist thinking we should all have. It shouldn't matter what manliness or womanliness is. Who f.cking cares, we have to stop being so selfish and so obsessed with self-definition.

[@yahir2043]

so your solution is to go backwards in time

[@magesalmanac6424]

I always wondered why there seem to be disproportionately more women environmental activists than men. Some men see it as not manly to care about the planet.

[@eksbocks9438]

It's not as competitive between women either. Caring for something is usually more prevalent in their group. And the ones who don't have less of an advantage long-term. Unlike with men. In less-developed cultures, they're chosen based on how good they can beat other people down. Regardless of intelligence or morality.

[@JoshuaMcTackett]

Honestly I think men use that vibe as a macho excuse for their actions which hurt the environment. I don’t think anyone at large really wants to hurt the environment. Except maybe bogans/rednecks

[@mavrospanayiotis]

Not sure but i think that since many needs are payed through the polluting activities of "their" men they can dedicate to more abstract stuff.

[@dorego3658]

Huh. Weird i thought the Judeo-Christian idea, according to the bible sats "gave us dominion to steward or Shepard the earth, take care of it.

[@mavrospanayiotis]

@@dorego3658 it also added, with Christ, to give away all possessions to buy a seat in the shortly upcoming of the REAL kingdom of God.

[@dorkking100]

It's hard to see dudes purposely blowing smoke on people as being manly. Since when is being annoying manly. Being annoying on purpose is something that children do. Idk if this would be considered manly even in our system.

[@georgecisneros5281]

Any behavior these types don’t like is “manly/masculine”. Haven’t you picked up on the grift yet?🤷🏻

[@DrJams]

This whole channel is annoying

[@ishastrega6851]

Nobody benefits from Patriarchy an ideology of dominate and exploit. Men don't have to identify with it and neither do women. Real men protect not destroy. Great video.

[@juliusperseus8612]

women would have Nothing without patriarchy. Everything you've used to make this misandrist comment was made by Men. feminism is Nothing but hypocrisy

[@BS-detector]

Is it gender, or is it ego? Because there are plenty of men (REAL men) who respect nature and have for millennia worked WITH it instead of trying to change or control it. The EGO wants everything to bend to its will, so while we do live in a society that has victimized itself by complying to the selfish and often psychopathic nature of the male narcissist, perhaps we should look more into controlling our immature bases & instinctual impulses rather than blame something too general and thereby too vague to actually address. Putting someone in charge based on gender isn't going to fix anything, either...all humans have egos. We need to be more mature, respectful and nurturing as a species, and that includes both genders. The only way to stop this runaway destruction is to literally make sociopathic and psychopathic corporations shut down and jail/exterminate those who run them.

[@CampingforCool41]

If it’s not gender but just ego you would expect these problems to be seen equally across men and women. But they aren’t. It is a men problem largely. That doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of men that are better than this, but it means men are more likely than women.

[@dr.spaceman9193]

But white men are the devil, didn’t you watch the video?

[@MM-dw5ir]

No true Scotsman

[@Theballonist]

When you change the framing of a problem you change the range of solutions which can be proposed for it. Shutting down the easily identified corporations who have caused a great deal of harm would be an unequivocal good, but those organizations are composed of people who believe in the systems that they uphold. A person cut loose from their purpose seeks a new purpose, and often will turn against the thing which has disrupted their life and acted beyond their control. Additionally these corporations are composed primarily of people with much more economic power than the average. When cut loose from their purpose, they will wield their economic and political power to reassert the position in hierarchy where they feel most comfortable. This is why discussing the vague and hyperspecific concepts of masculinities is so critical to achieving justice.

[@godhimself1128]

​@@CampingforCool41aka men are more likely to have a dangerous ego

[@GlobeHackers]

It's not the world they are killing; it's civilization as we know it. Since we unlocked the power of fossil fuels, civilization has become an omnicidal heat engine. Shareholders and Stakeholders are also a large part of the problem. We are all consumers. We were brought up that way.

[@lynth]

The video doesn't clearly mention the one thing that is actually the problem: Capitalism. What is it with Americans always seeking problems everywhere but with capitalism? The fundamental problem is capitalism. Why are you analyzing masculinity? All of these problems are just a result of capitalism... all 4 of the prime evils: religion, sexism, racism, nationalism are all enabled by capitalism because capitalism encourages people to utilize these things to push its agenda. These are tools for manipulation. Entirely irrational. They wouldn't persist in a socialist world where people receive a Marxist education. I also embrace "authoritarian strong men". Authoritarianism isn't bad if it's wielded by a proletarian dictatorship. Stalin was, objectively, good. Mao was, objectively, good. Xi is, objectively, good. These people led/are leading the most democratic and fastest developing societies on earth. Liberalism isn't the answer. Primitivism isn't the answer. Anarchism isn't the answer. The Unabomber was always wrong. The people who have been consistently right since the very beginning of their movement were always the Marxist-Leninist communists. Their movement is the only one that has consistently improved society and made life better for all while investing disproportionate amounts of resources to fight for the rights of women, minorities and future generations. It was always socialists who were at the forefront of both social and economic progress. The problem is capitalism. Everything else is a smokescreen.

[@cr4yv3n]

So what will feed 8 billion people?

[@GlobeHackers]

@@cr4yv3n That's a good question. Do you have any ideas? When potatoes were brought to Europe after European settlers settled in the "new world," it was a boon to European nutrition. I'm hoping I can grow spuds before my cognitive decline prevents me from snuffing myself. Now, we eat chicken, beef, pork and fish... look up, mammal biomass today vs. 10K years ago... Thank god we have fossil fuels or there wouldn't be so many people on KZbin.

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

OCC: Problem: patriarchy Solution: patriarchy I want to like this channel but they took money to promote Bill Gates book that’s literally all about this second type of patriarchy he mentions. I can’t even with the hypocrisy

[@SPLICEKNIGHT]

OCC has a bad habit of doing a lot of this stuff. He also tends to deliberately oversimplify things and frame things in a very specific way that seems to contradict or even break his whole thesis when examined critically.

[@BoonBreyne]

Where is patriarchy proposed as a solution in this video?

[@07Flash11MRC]

@chelsea : The point of this video is to show the destructive behavior men are engaging in for nothing but the narrative of manliness. It doesn't state that the solution to one thing is the exact same thing, but men overcoming the harmful, nonesensical, *capitalist* narrative. Nowhere does it say that the solution is to keep (certain) men in power and let it go.

[@tiberthescarecrow8649]

The patriarchy is a major contribution to it, however its the "patriarchs" of society, not most men. Focus on systemic issues at the top which leads to people being forced into destructive behavior. This will also help stop classism while reaching the socioeconomically disadvantaged who dont have a choice.

[@donalvarez4006]

Workers also need to be held accountable for their self destructive behavior

[@trademisconception9816]

@@donalvarez4006in what ways, austerity measures? Consumption taxes that put their financial situation to the brink? You’re saying that they need to be punished, but don’t offer any solutions for another way of life for them? Held accountable for a system they were born into and had no say in or viable alternative presented to them? We need to work on viable alternatives rather than focusing on punishing every day people for engaging in a rotten system they were born into.

[@dr.livesey7595]

Its everyone taking part in this. period. Doenst matter what your status is, what your gender is, everyone who takes part in this domination game and constantly trying to overpower others to boost their egos is part of it. everyone who directly or indirectly supports or rewards this kind of behaviour is part of it.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

‘Regular men’ still believe they are superior and deserving of everything, at the destruction of those around them and the planet. One was my father, then my boss, then my ex husband. Patriarchy is pervasive.

[@Bimbo-Balls]

@@down-to-earth-mystery-school And women don’t fall to far behind. What would you call that?

[@JasonWood100]

Real men protect the vulnerable, they don't exploit them. Edit: protecting the vulnerable is not a gender specific trait. It's just a good trait to have regardless of gender. I said "real men" because there is a huge population of men (more so than women) who think that exerting dominance and control at the expense of others is a defining characteristic of what it is to be their gender. I was simply trying to protest this idea directly. The idea of a "Real man" and "real woman" can be harmful and negative. But we can also reclaim the terms to be more egalitarian and positive. Anyways. Take care and keep trying to make the world a better place guys✌️

[@eksbocks9438]

They have a system now. Where they falsely accuse the Real Men of being "bad." Whenever things go wrong: It's always "someone else's fault."

[@troodontidae9174]

"real men" is counterintuitive

[@user-ik7vm1kt6q]

there is no true man, only two sides of one human flesh coin and a system we created to differentiate the two, despite their relative equality in ability. humanity's cruelty made us separate into sides when we should be all part of the same community.

[@insomniacresurrected1000]

@@troodontidae9174Do not trust anyone that puts an adjective before the word man.

[@Somebodyherefornow]

@@insomniacresurrected1000white men ~~~

[@andrewrockwell1282]

I'm so glad this is on KZbin so I can share it more broadly. Not enough of my friends have Nebula.

[@EireSaber]

How do you like nebula ? Is it worth getting

[@mrbanana6464]

@@EireSaber I would also like to know

[@georgepalmer5497]

The right to say "no" is the most crucial aspect of any liberation movement. The way I'm seeing some of the trends in our society it is a case of, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

[@altrag]

You're following the wrong movements then. True liberation doesn't have a "boss". You don't have a right to say "no" because there's nobody to say "no" to, aside from yourself.

[@jjoohhhnn]

​@@altragyou know conservatives think they're fighting for freedom, too. Maybe reflect on the observation before denying it?

[@altrag]

@@jjoohhhnn That's at best a half truth. Redefining the word "freedom" so that you can claim you're fighting for it is not the same as actually fighting for freedom. What conservatives (at least the loud conservative pundits on TV and the internet) call freedom is the idea that they should be "free" to oppress anyone they don't like. That's not actually freedom though, not matter what they tell themselves. Redefining the word doesn't change the concept.

[@jjoohhhnn]

@@altrag I could literally be talking to a conservative, this is exactly their line on free markets and gun ownership which I oppose by the way, we need more regulation but I don't pretend that regulation is inherently or obviously freeing.

[@jjoohhhnn]

@@altrag the conservatives would say that moral degeneracy isn't freeing, they'd be wrong that unorthodox lifestyles/identities are degenerate. You probably oppose people living in traditional ways or appreciating traditional virtues even in a positive way, cause you seem caught up in the "identity" part of leftism.

[@KensaiProductions]

I'm so glad I discovered Neo Paganism in my mid 20s. (early 1990s) It helped me embrace a gentler and more open way of living. I learned to listen to the women in my life and a deeper care for nature and the world in general. I still struggle with early teachings, but I try to remain aware of them and cut off things when I realize I'm doing it.

[@insomniacresurrected1000]

I have listened to the women in my life, and appart from my mother I haven’t heard anything smart. Smart women are very rare.

[@trademisconception9816]

@@insomniacresurrected1000yea that isn’t a good thing to say. I have met plenty of smart women in my life, maybe you should get out and meet more people.

[@trademisconception9816]

One thing I will add, is that there are plenty of women who are good stewards to the earth, there are also plenty of women who have an addiction to consumerism. I know a lot of women in my life who order a lot of useless stuff off of Amazon, and this contributes a lot to climate change. Not always, but the consumerist lifestyle and keeping up with joneses mindset on social media, etc seems to effect women more often and this lifestyle does contribute significantly to growing carbon emissions.

[@lynth]

The video doesn't clearly mention the one thing that is actually the problem: Capitalism. What is it with Americans always seeking problems everywhere but with capitalism? The fundamental problem is capitalism. Why are you analyzing masculinity? All of these problems are just a result of capitalism... all 4 of the prime evils: religion, sexism, racism, nationalism are all enabled by capitalism because capitalism encourages people to utilize these things to push its agenda. These are tools for manipulation. Entirely irrational. They wouldn't persist in a socialist world where people receive a Marxist education. I also embrace "authoritarian strong men". Authoritarianism isn't bad if it's wielded by a proletarian dictatorship. Stalin was, objectively, good. Mao was, objectively, good. Xi is, objectively, good. These people led/are leading the most democratic and fastest developing societies on earth. Liberalism isn't the answer. Primitivism isn't the answer. Anarchism isn't the answer. The Unabomber was always wrong. The people who have been consistently right since the very beginning of their movement were always the Marxist-Leninist communists. Their movement is the only one that has consistently improved society and made life better for all while investing disproportionate amounts of resources to fight for the rights of women, minorities and future generations. It was always socialists who were at the forefront of both social and economic progress. The problem is capitalism. Everything else is a smokescreen.

[@insomniacresurrected1000]

@@trademisconception9816 Maybe your standards for what is intelligent are way too low.

[@franliu1488]

Don’t be too harsh on yourself, every dictator has a mother too, women need to act also

[@anonymousanonymous870]

Women can't do much, because we all know that testosterone is a aggressive hormone which is plenty in men, or women should stop birthing them.

[@anonymousanonymous870]

The mothers are under patriarchal laws what do you expect them to do?

[@joshmorcombe4907]

11:01 small note, but that's FORMER president of Brazil Jair Bolsonaro. The newly re-elected president, while still controversial to a certain extent, has been doing much better when it comes to protecting the environment

[@chandrabarnett9661]

Thanks!

[@organicod2438]

I found the section on hegemonic masculinity very interesting. It pointed out that white men tended to direct group focus away from "distracting" identity politics issues (indigenous solidarity and anti-oppression) and back towards a "main priority". The irony came at the end of this video where the narrator then directed the viewers away from minor issues and towards a main priority as empathetic human beings or humanists. I'm not sure if this is ironic, or simply undermines the findings of the study, as effective political movements require focused efforts.

[@eksbocks9438]

4:32 Hit the nail right on the head.... The same guys will then turn around and harass women. And everyone is told, "Don't worry about it."

[@itsabeautifullifeinfact]

Greed is.

[@rbxless]

This may be surprising, but it's not greed. It's capital itself. Like a virus, it needs to replicate itself either until we erradicate it or until everything is transformed into capital and the means to create it.

[@adamwilliams2253]

Ok the rolling coal thing is incredibly dumb. I'd say though that 99% of males would also think it's dumb. I tend to think that assuming that hegemonic masculinity needs to dominate nature is also needlessly simplistic.

[@eksbocks9438]

@@tauntingeveryone7208 It's because they've had many generations of affluence, without responsibility. We see this same phenomenon with the "Insane Emperors" of Rome.

[@safapresley]

No rolling coal. I only ride my bicycle. I have no drivers' license. I hate cars 🥰

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

I never heard of rolling coal before this vid. It seems to me like it's sth that only happens in the U.S.A

[@najsmith7549]

99%? Plenty of white men would see that as fun imo

[@JohnDoe-jn1gw]

I love how occ and second thought release new videos back to back pretty mich

[@Bluesine_R]

Second Thought is a tankie unfortunately, it took me a while to realize since he keeps his main channel pretty clean. OCC hopefully isn’t a tankie

[@joshbarghest7058]

​@@Bluesine_Rlol it took you a while to realize something he's been open about for several years?

[@chancereed123]

@@Bluesine_R‼️LEFTIST IN-FIGHTING ALERT ‼️

[@VegitoBlue202]

​@@Bluesine_ROOC is ok but not radical enough Second Thought and Andrewism is much better.

[@JohnDoe-jn1gw]

@@Bluesine_R what’s a tankie

[@hyenaedits3460]

Another example of how environmental justice and social justice are the same fight.

[@eksbocks9438]

Because it's the same person causing all the problems.

[@jthadcast]

@@eksbocks9438 you seem to miss the whole point, not a person but the entire system.

[@AurorasWorldxox]

Because we ARE the environment! We are nature. 💚

[@Onionbaron]

The blunt answer: YES

[@m.k.4046]

This video was in a way abrasive to go through, but I guess that's what you get when patriarchy is involved in the discussion. Nonetheless, I am happy I watched it as I feel more informed now about the actuality of the situation. I also seen some A. Cappelle videos, and found them informative aswell. Thank you for the efforts you take in making your videos, I can now say I watched all of them, and I wish you all the best.

[@Brambrew]

Rich, powerful men. They don't consider the ethics of their actions because they're old and will die before facing any real consequences. We The Common People includes We The Common Men. And we care about our planet. If you ask me if I'm responsible for the climate crisis, I'll simply say: It ain't me, it ain't me I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no It ain't me, it ain't me I ain't no fortunate one, no (Edit) it's worth mentioning that the song Fortunate Son is NOT a patriotic song, although it's been adopted as such by the patriarchy.

[@lanzinator4734]

Incredible video. This needs more views.

[@hydroxyl5130]

I love the vocabulary this video has given me. So much. Thank you for this dialogue!

[@conesnail1364]

Another great video essay.

[@antonio_luis_]

This is called "are men killing the planet?". And then proceeds to only talk about American men

[@David-xl6vk]

no its not about gender its about the people who profit from fossil fuels. always follow the money

[@KarlSnarks]

It can be about more things than one. This channel has already dedicated several videos to anti-capitalism and class conflict.

[@Alarik52]

It's interesting how human greed and other human condition factors are labeled as 'patriarchy'. Great boogeyman method, bad method for resolving problems by immediately blaming males of all ages. Mentions of patriarchy these days are more a matter of hate transference than legitimate criticisms.

[@Anonymoose66G]

The idea is that patriarchal ideologies enforces & encourages greed and negative qualities.

[@qjtvaddict]

We should just call it male genocide rather than patriarchy

[@qjtvaddict]

@@Anonymoose66Gchange the words if you want results the fools don’t understand

[@ladybug3380]

@@qjtvaddict 😔 sigh it’s not “male suicide” it’s pushing for men to evolve and become better human beings. As a species we have to evolve wether you like it or not, we can’t evolve if you guys think your toxic primitive behavior is okay. I read an article that said single men are more likely to be a danger to society (because they have nothing to lose) while single women are not.

[@jjoohhhnn]

​@@ladybug3380why is that? Do you think there is an essential difference between how men and women handle loneliness or do you think that the difference is caused by socialization?

[@TheCumulusClimber]

The Occam's razor reason cars in North America are XXL is that is the size we built out our roads. For every Brodozer there is a Karin in an Escalade or a Jeep Grand Cherokee so no it's not really a "manly" thing. Tribalism and other assorted misinformation fueled by oil and oil adjacent interests is I believe issue one.

[@miguel5785]

Brilliant. I love how this ties together everything that is good, everything that is worth striving for, in the ecosystem, in the social system and in our minds. And somehow it all involves taking a step back and putting others at the centre. It's as if the path that took us from theocentrism to humanism to individualism now we had to undo it, going from individualism to socialism and from humanism to ecologism.

[@alixmordant489]

Would be needed.

[@sangitaekka]

Very insightful!

[@howtosober]

This is excellent work. I was initially skeptical when I saw the title, but you really make an irrefutable argument. This channel is so valuable. Thank you for all you do.

[@alexbourlier6996]

I don't own a car, I bike everywhere, but I think your reasoning is wrong I see as much GHG emissions by women as I see by men around me And billionaires are ot all reacting the same to the problem either Well, in short, I think you didn't do your homework before making this video I still thank you for having made it And I leaned about running coal... That was worth my time for sure :)

[@sofiapanagopulo8518]

Im still watching the video so i dont know if he mentions this but sadly electric cars are much worse for the environment than any other type of car that exists today. For an electric car you need a batery, and that energy mostly comes from nuclear energy. And not to mention the disposal of bateries once they no longer work. And the lithium needed to create the batteries. Its a really complex problem. Its not just the coal industry. Even veganisim creates so much pollution. We could go on and on with all the stuff that damages the environment. We as a civilization grew so apart from nature. I dont really believe the problem is the “patriarchy”

[@zachweyrauch2988]

Just like all OCC videos the lack of self acknowledgment as a human in a human problem takes alot of the conclusive power from the topic. He is correct about alot of these takes. But laughably optimistic about how to address it.

[@jcephrie]

To put it simply: "Nature" is anything capitalists do not want to pay for. Traditional "men's work" requires logic, and was paid for. "Women's work", like child rearing, was "natural" and so not compensated. Capitalists don't want to pay for their polluting, so it only effects the "natural" world. Etc etc etc. One of my favorite books offer an environmentally minded masculinity is "Riddley Walker" by Russell Hoban. A word of caution though: this book is written phonetically, so basically requires reading aloud.

[@bollweevil8112]

Sugar poured into a gas tank will destroy a combustion engine. Just sayin’

[@strollingthroughparadise353]

Wow! Really well done! No one else is pointing this out and your video shows clearly that patriarchy has been driving history and climate change. Yes, we are human beings each with a personality and perspective. To imagine ourself and others as human beings, to respect and honor each other, to listen and respond as a human being rather than as a gender! Wow how amazing that could be! I have hope that we may be heading towards this as more people like you show us the way!

[@francookie9353]

A lot of people are talking about this. OCC just had a very large audience and a wide reach. So yes, it's great he's bringing more attention to the issue, but the discourse has long been around.

[@rate8818]

Let's say there was a group of people, which was dominated by some men trough hegemonic masculinity. Are there any studies or observations on how those groups are faring when the dominant men are removed or - and that would be even more important - when the men are still around but exerting no dominant behaviour anymore or actually expressing empathetic behaviour?

[@Weiner-Worm]

We can see this with chimpanzees and bonobos. They have vastly different social structures. Also look at elephants. The males only join the heard to mate, the heard is led by a matriarch.

[@jthadcast]

power is relative, remove the top and it is replaced out of necessity. power vacuums don't create equity.

[@TK_Danes]

​@@Weiner-WormBees as well. The males only have a few roles. Lions is a great example. They cannot all stay in one prides land. But it's on the Lioness to hold the ONE lion accountable.. that can be death sentence for them

[@granddefectus4602]

@@jthadcast See creative destruction.

[@KT-lt4fy]

Truth be told, I think a group of people without hierarchy is very difficult, I’m wondering if it’s possible. Some people are more talkative and confident in their opinions than others and dynamics will arise in the group as they become our leaders. Multiple ‘strong’ personalities clash until a winner emerges and a group with no ‘strong’ personalities have nothing get done until a strong personality arrives. Truth is, humans needs rules but the question becomes who enforces it… and that will be the eternal struggle Edit: but the hierarchy can be based on WAY better things than gender or race.

[@matteodietz9759]

really important subject. i feel like you could've made the video half an hour longer. for example the connection from the ecomodernist approach of solving climate change and patriarchy felt kind of arbitrary and mainly consisted of the same technical terms (15:46). of course it's true that patriarchy is also deeply rooted in this system but i think you could have made clearer examples and arguments in this part. maybe also expand a bit on the part where you talk about how patriarchy influences boys from a very early age and shapes their character etc (4:38). very interesting subject too.

[@lynth]

The video doesn't clearly mention the one thing that is actually the problem: Capitalism. What is it with Americans always seeking problems everywhere but with capitalism? The fundamental problem is capitalism. Why are you analyzing masculinity? All of these problems are just a result of capitalism... all 4 of the prime evils: religion, sexism, racism, nationalism are all enabled by capitalism because capitalism encourages people to utilize these things to push its agenda. These are tools for manipulation. Entirely irrational. They wouldn't persist in a socialist world where people receive a Marxist education. I also embrace "authoritarian strong men". Authoritarianism isn't bad if it's wielded by a proletarian dictatorship. Stalin was, objectively, good. Mao was, objectively, good. Xi is, objectively, good. These people led/are leading the most democratic and fastest developing societies on earth. Liberalism isn't the answer. Primitivism isn't the answer. Anarchism isn't the answer. The Unabomber was always wrong. The people who have been consistently right since the very beginning of their movement were always the Marxist-Leninist communists. Their movement is the only one that has consistently improved society and made life better for all while investing disproportionate amounts of resources to fight for the rights of women, minorities and future generations. It was always socialists who were at the forefront of both social and economic progress. The problem is capitalism. Everything else is a smokescreen.

[@ushalexa]

So well done. Thank you for this.

[@eksbocks9438]

6:11 It can be masculine. The same way a nerd would stand-up to a bully. We've seen plenty of videos online of abusers harassing victims. And then pretending like nothing happened. Now they know they can use this as a weapon against other victims. Until they're actually separated from everyone else. Like society is supposed to do.

[@KatharineOsborne]

Wow this was a really great breakdown. The stats on men hoarding speech was eye-opening (and Ken singing "Push" for 4 hours straight was so insightful in the Barbie film 😂). It's something I'm aware of, as I'm not a man working in a male-dominated field, but you become numb to it.

[@MrBorderlands123]

Reminded me when the Tokyo Olympics Chief, Mori Yoshiro, had to step down from his position after saying that women talked too much during meetings when it's quite the opposite.

[@YU-zg7zg]

I admire You so much for making a video such as this ♥

[@TheTimelapseTraveler]

Thank you very much for this video

[@stevesmith-sb2df]

It was Rush calling out tree-hugging libtards that eventually drove me away from the republican party. Now I identify as a democrat. I feel like you can be male and still love nature.

[@mikael0317]

My only critique of this video is about the part where you basically said that aiming for healthy masculinities shouldn’t be the end goal. By saying that you’re excluding a huge group of people (including trans men) who find comfort in their masculinity. Masculinities and feminities are just as valid as other gender identities and striving towards healthier versions of masculinity is a good way to dismantle some of the harmful aspects of the ”traditional” capitalist masculinity. Of course we can try to just focus on being more empathetic as humans, but that shouldn’t mean that we should demonize or get rid of all of masculinity and femininity.

[@sarahjaneross2918]

As a vegan, (of which the majority are women), I often hear the main push back from the inherent cruelty of animal agriculture come from men quoting "dominion" toughness and strength. Except I can't think of anything strong about subjecting an innocent creature to torture and death. Our personal emissions can be reduced by up to 73 percent according to the massive Oxford Study and our arteries less clogged.. Against all these benefits the most common comment i hear from men is "we've always done it, lions tho and bACoN tho" Our non human cousins also suffer dreadfully from toxic masculinity and unfettered capitalism.

[@juliusperseus8612]

🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

[@sarahjaneross2918]

@@juliusperseus8612 Can you explain what you found funny?

[@adamlowe8822]

How can something that dosent exist be harming the planet?

[@migspeculates]

perhaps another video "Psychopathy is killing the planet?" It's not just "patriarchs" maintaning the system but individuals high on psychopathic tendencies as their very nature are more likely rewarded by the very foundation of capitalism

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Yeh, I’d like to see more research on that. I guess in a twisted way it makes sense why most top leaders are sociopaths and narcissists - they were willing to do anything to get and retain power. The rest of us who don’t think like that, aren’t sure what to do. Vote? Become them?

[@jjoohhhnn]

​@@down-to-earth-mystery-schoolbig think has a 2 hr piece put on by a guy from a think tank about how people in power (from HOA's and middle management to multi-billionaires and dictators all trend towards Machiavellian and ASPD tendencies.

[@kaitk.7259]

Thank you for making this video

[@Mr.House2077]

Found this video hard to get through but it’s a good message.

[@sharonberry410]

Self reflection is painful but necessary.

[@Alex_Barbosa]

Im so glad you ended this video with a rejection of masculinity and femeninity as a concept. Weve been dancing around the issue of toxic masculinity for so long. Its time we just look directly at the truth thats been staring at us from the beginning, that these needless contradictions are not real, they dont exist anywhere except our warped perception of what makes people individuals. Its all just another way to "other" people.

[@kleinebozebeer]

If we live under a patriarchy, who is the patriarch and how can we hold him accountable?

[@_x__q]

It’s me. You must use magic to defeat me.

[@kleinebozebeer]

@@_x__q I rolled a 17 on my arcana check so you have to tell me what school of magic.

[@ladybug3380]

The old men who own everything. They’re in charge.

[@julesbrags1661]

​@@_x__q The final boss

[@anonymousanonymous870]

Maybe look at those who put themselves on top of pyramid

[@infullbloomtime7479]

This is awesome commentary ❤❤❤ you definitely have my mental wheels turning

[@katyfive1]

great video, and I love how you addressed patriarchal problems that crop up in leftist and progressive spaces, where white men tend to also dominate the conversation, probably without much introspection because they don't realise they are still acting under our system. They think they've moved beyond it, in the same way men who turned to atheism thought simply moving beyond religion made them "logical and clear minded". patriarchy will always follow you unless you recognise it and make personal progress by critically thinking about yourself and making improvements, and by listening to others who can help you recognise these problems.

[@Photom101]

patriarchy's such a non-issue though, if a field's dominated by white men there's a reason other than "muh oppression"

[@katyfive1]

@@Photom101 it sounds like you didn't pay attention to the video, which explains why patriarchy is not "a non-issue"

[@Photom101]

@@katyfive1 yeah bc the video was already blaming people for things based on race and gender 5 minutes in, not listening to that propaganda

[@katyfive1]

@@Photom101 if you're not here to listen, then why should i listen to you?

[@Photom101]

@@katyfive1 i listened up until i decided it was propaganda, why i deserve your ears is up to you

[@Screech9]

love the captioning style

[@someguy2135]

Coal powered trucks ('Rolling Coal") should be immediately outlawed! Does anyone know of an online petition I could sign?

[@eksbocks9438]

Start with local towns. Maybe there's a few states that want it. But the law has to be specific: A car or truck can't pass inspection if they have certain devices on it. -Loud exhaust, Enhancing smoke, etc.

[@NobodyHere96]

Or at least outlaw driving them in public areas. It should be fine to use them when you're far away from anyone else that wouldn't consent to that.

[@someguy2135]

@@NobodyHere96 Not fine for climate change! There's a small number of men who do it, so far, but we should nip it in the bud before it catches on.

[@someguy2135]

@@eksbocks9438 We need federal laws! Too many state governments would refuse to do it.

[@eksbocks9438]

@@someguy2135 Then you need a majority in both houses of legislature.

[@mariahuynh5499]

Such an interesting video! I haver never thought about it in this way

[@jjoohhhnn]

That's right, if you squint hard enough women have no blame, while men did everything bad. Which simultaneously convinces women they shouldn't clean up after mens mess again, absolves them of responsibility, and turning men off by blaming them for the sins of John D Rockefeller, now you won't really fight climate change until "patriarchy" is defeated, which means what exactly? A perpetually moving goalpost.

[@blueisthecolor3463]

​@@jjoohhhnnIdiot. It's says nothing about female. Tis isn't male vs female video.

[@KoRntech]

You'd think these rugged off grid men would step up and say ya I use solar panels and a wind turbine so I have nearly the same luxury and convenience of living in a developed area but I'm far removed from that level of society.

[@FuDiggity]

Your package gotta be microscopic for you to compensate by burning the sky.

[@sharonberry410]

Truck nuts, anyone?

[@phyarth8082]

Nice dichotomy. Petrolmasculinty of big oil and ecomasculinty of big tech is two sides of the same coin. Only one side has "Animal Farm" vibe where dominant pigs rules the farm and Big tech has 1984 vide where all data gathering centers and surveillance equipment and processing units consumes more energy than oil refinery plants (and they also burns a lot of oil). EV is more environmentally harmful that internal combustion engines but fighting masculinity with more masculinity.

[@MinervaPsych]

Great job!

[@JustJanitor]

Great video, very insightful

[@TheDeej26]

People ask about what is "Good Masculinity" because they want to know if this is a wholesale condemnation of the male experience and perspective. Femininity doesn't have the same bias against it. Is masculinity inherently bad? Is there a way to be Masculine in a good way? If we are required to be neutral or only a "Good Person," shouldn't we also require women to give up their feminitity?

[@VegitoBlue202]

Better title would be is the patriarchy killing the planet tbh?

[@CassieAngelica]

You could argue it was set up by men, but is now hurting most of them as well. As a matter of fact, one should argue that, because it’s true.

[@UltraVioletKnight]

they need their clickbait titles for clicks

[@Juliett-A]

Yup. That's what the video says within the first 5 minutes.

[@puffena9013]

Thus is the KZbin grind

[@CassieAngelica]

@@Juliett-A These people never watch the video. They just rush in here to get the most likes.

[@veloboy1]

About nobody in current west society is going to truly deep dive inside their own mind.. We unlearned this ability and society is too busy abusing and striving for alcohol and short term romantic relationships..

[@nemo4evr]

One of the truths is that is easier to destroy than to preserve or create, ignorance raises ignorant people, men are raised to not show weakness, and that death is a better alternative to that perceived shame, that is one of the reasons men are not only very destructive but also self destructive, with one of the largest suicide rate in society, that is also why they will try to take as many down with them as possible. . to show who is the boss, a pirric victory of sorts.

[@silashellebrand462]

Of all the things for KZbin to advertise on this video, I got a Jordan Peterson ad

[@Alexa-ud6qm]

Thank you so much for drawing out the obvious link between these two things. Highlighting this issue and how it affects everyone in the west is very much needed.

[@JohnAranita]

A guy was so hyper-masculine that he got so angry when another guy needed help.

[@twonumber22]

I'm just here for "newest comments", and it's not disappointing. lol

[@enaqtim]

I'm disappointed. :( But then again, the bar is rather low for youtube comments. If I wanted conversations with at least some substance, I'd go to reddit.

[@twonumber22]

@@enaqtim I was under the impression that Reddit was worse. Is that wrong?

[@The_JAC]

I am wasting too much time arguing. LOL

[@Rybot9000]

That's one way of looking at it. Sometimes though we can take the idea of femininity and masculinity too far. Some people view them as primal forces in nature. More fundamental than the strong and weak nuclear forces, and more indivisible than protons and neutrons. But a lot of what we are talking about are specific behaviors, attitudes and self-regulation strategies. This video takes a lot of different facts, anecdotes and trends and puts them all-together under a label of patriarchy and masculinity. If it was appropriate to do so, it would be clear that these strategies and attitudes have proven somewhat effective given environmental and social selection pressures. Toxic masculinity is not the only effective strategy for success, and it really depends on what an individual believes to be success. Some people find more success in being cunning and manipulative, offering up nice sounding alibis and superordinate explanations, while ultimately being savage. To make our aim solely congeniality and mutual empathy leads to circumstances in which some members of the group are castigated and ostracized as scapegoats whenever there is an upset to the group harmony. People strategically manipulate group perceptions of offense and wrong-doing in order the establish social hierarchy. This is classically what happens in female social groups. But again the real issue is not whether these behaviours and strategies are masculine or feminine, the issue is they are toxic. They are also not always toxic, assertiveness can be a good thing, so long as it is not uncompromising. Too much compromising can mean people are just saying "No, you decide." and nothing moves forward. Like two Canadians apologizing for apologizing. Its just as absurd as someone asserting a position in an uncompromising way. But in this regard, people do learn different social strategies. People will learn to be assertive to be able to watch what they want, others will be overly compromising to maintain congeniality. There are as many women who realize that through speaking their mind loudly and pitting friends against each other, they can consolidate power and get what they want. They often do this by taking advantage of more compromising friends who are willing to be manipulated into taking a side. A similar set of strategies is used in the archetypal masculine as the archetypal feminine in their corrosive expressions. Our real enemy is the manner in which the human mind constructs a sense of self and utilizes social strategies to garner favor. Someone can present as the conqueror, the lover, or the fool, but underneath it all is a desire to fit in, be accepted and have value. It is no different if it's men comparing engine noises, or women comparing hairstyles. One might be more toxic for the planet, but both are expressions of the same drive. Categorizing one as masculine, and the other as feminism, doesn't really change the underlying strategies. But I generally think we would do well to focus on individual behaviors than group identities.

[@The_JAC]

Femininity and Masculinity are baked into everyone's self due to the influence of society. If we truly want to improve the toxic parts of these gender expressions the individual would have to make way for the collective. Girls and boys are taught things from a young age through not just their parents, but society taking the form of school culture and other situations the children find themselves in. The idea of an individual that is separate from a society is false. How you act at work is in part work culture, how you act to strangers is through manners, how you talk to your relatives is through tradition and there are more instances. The idea that we can change on a substantive level through the individual is in my opinion, false. The individual must be weighed equally with the society at large.

[@Rybot9000]

@@The_JAC I don't believe in free-will. Contrary to what most compatibilists say, I don't even feel like I have free-will, and haven't for a very long time. Yet, societies all over the world believe it. Free-will, as a philosophy, is baked into all societies and their legal systems, their economic systems and their social mores. If I am a mindless individual who is only capable of believing what everyone else does. How is it that I have never believed in free-will and spent the last 20 years arguing against it? The individual is a huge factor, but you are right that, for anyone who's self-esteem is contingent on what society thinks they will tend to go blindly with the mob. But again I think the real issue is that people want to be in the mob because it is far safer than being an individual. From my view, the mob is absolutely wrong about a lot of things, and our systems which are based on impossible choices is a basic violation of human rights. The courts actually agree that if I am right, and they are wrong, then all criminal justice, as it is, is a gross violation of human rights. But this is an ideal, a spirit of individualism proposed by people like Emerson and Thoreau. It's not selfishness, nor conformity into a collective, bit a rational self-control, or self-directedness based in reason.

[@swamp1138]

But who are the biggest consumers?

[@anita.b]

Men. In the majority of the world women barely exist in the economy. Pollution is made by production not consumption is another valid point. Men own the means of production world-wide.

[@haritc8462]

​​@@anita.b Yeah, I'm sure women are only supporting fast fashion and buying all those clothes because the patriarchy is forcing them to do so.

[@swamp1138]

@@anita.b Being as my comment keeps getting deleted, according to a recent Forbes statistic, published on August 10 2023 - Women account for 85% of the world's consumer buying decisions and control over 31.8 trillion dollars in worldwide spending. So in the imaginary patriarchy, women somehow are responsible for the vast majority of consumerism and put more money into the machine. Also funny enough, in the U.S. women hold more than 60% of all personal wealth.

[@anonymousanonymous870]

Men are the biggest consumers.

[@psikeyhackr6914]

And how many men go into debt for under engineered junk designed to become obsolete. Where is the data on the annual depreciation of automobiles?

[@roberthornack1692]

Man does create God's in his own image. How else to explain a narcissitic, egotistic, psychopathic, mass murdering, misogynistic, tyrant!

[@libertyblueskyes2564]

Yes, male domination and their inability to perceive reality as a circle of events and instead see it as linear causes very bad choices to be made on behalf of all people.

[@pinchebruha405]

There are plenty of countries where the men have respect for the land and women we need to here more about them

[@srantoniomatos]

2 men created permaculture. Most active permaculture teachers are men... Man are soooo good.

[@The_JAC]

Men created permaculture? "the development of agricultural ecosystems intended to be sustainable and self-sufficient." Yes, modern day white permaculture was made by two men. But societies like the Inca had to be one with nature to stay alive. Men are not the problem, men steeped in toxic masculinity are.

[@joewanyoike2993]

Am black and poor but I disagree with 100% of this video.

[@wallabra]

Is that a car in your profile picture? How poor are you?

[@MECKENICALROBOT]

8:36 what’s sad is pure destruction is complete lack of control

[@reichen609]

Sharing this to people . . . I only have a few friends though . . . hope they'll click it and listen to the end.

[@domiwomi628]

Amazing content! Thank you as always

[@_x__q]

Any tips on raising my CO2 output? I’m an accelerationist.

[@kenos911]

Get a job at bp

[@jthadcast]

would having the military or police use violence to enforce property rights be any kinder under women or non-binary? system violence aka resource extraction, is mandatory with 8B people no matter the dominant gender. would women of opposing ideologies somehow be more collaborative? perhaps the distinctions at the margin would make a noticeable difference but to enforce that change requires blood in the streets and a system reset.

[@bryanalcantarfilms]

Man. These videos keep getting better and better. You left nothing uncovered. Brilliant channel with such an array of brilliant content. It really brings up many interesting subjects and makes you think. Kudos to you sir for bringing to light very many issues and considerations we must take when considering climate change.

[@decrepitworld3634]

People watching this video and are convinced by this presentation are being gas lit.. You can spin all the negative values to whatever term you want.. think for yourselves.. Don't be a sheep

[@lynth]

The video doesn't clearly mention the one thing that is actually the problem: Capitalism. What is it with Americans always seeking problems everywhere but with capitalism? The fundamental problem is capitalism. Why are you analyzing masculinity? All of these problems are just a result of capitalism... all 4 of the prime evils: religion, sexism, racism, nationalism are all enabled by capitalism because capitalism encourages people to utilize these things to push its agenda. These are tools for manipulation. Entirely irrational. They wouldn't persist in a socialist world where people receive a Marxist education. I also embrace "authoritarian strong men". Authoritarianism isn't bad if it's wielded by a proletarian dictatorship. Stalin was, objectively, good. Mao was, objectively, good. Xi is, objectively, good. These people led/are leading the most democratic and fastest developing societies on earth. Liberalism isn't the answer. Primitivism isn't the answer. Anarchism isn't the answer. The Unabomber was always wrong. The people who have been consistently right since the very beginning of their movement were always the Marxist-Leninist communists. Their movement is the only one that has consistently improved society and made life better for all while investing disproportionate amounts of resources to fight for the rights of women, minorities and future generations. It was always socialists who were at the forefront of both social and economic progress. The problem is capitalism. Everything else is a smokescreen.

[@bryanalcantarfilms]

He's already made a video specifically on Capitalism and even made one on consumerism and overconsumption. If I'm not mistaken he also made one on fossil fuel capitalism and has brought it up and touched on that subject many times before. @@lynth

[@bryanalcantarfilms]

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm glad I'm awake, alert and paying attention to so many atrocities around the world. @@decrepitworld3634

[@bryanalcantarfilms]

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're saying that Mao and Xi are effective leadership? Mao ran China as a brutal authoritarian dictatorship. People were starving and dying under Mao. Do you not recall Tiananmen Square? And Chi is president for life and took Hong Kong's rights away? Also China is like a police state with check points and surveillance cameras everywhere. Hold on? Are you working for the Chinese government or something? Hey buddy. I'm from America and I like having my freedom. I believe that Capitalism is heavily flawed. But I'm not pro socialism or communism either. I believe that when regulated Capitalism can be done effectively. And that we should always be giving people a leg up and keep growing the middle class. I also believe that we should invent a new ideology that includes all people and gives them all of their personal individual freedoms and rights and helps society as a whole. @@lynth

[@BionicTapeworm]

Thanks for the great video essay.