The Catastrophe No One Talks About

[@OurChangingClimate]

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[@AndrewThoesen]

Y’all really need to get Nebula like these people are saying. Good quality content, not expensive, and saw this video a month ago 😉

[@c0rnm3al]

Quick polite gripe about the audio: the sibilants and mouth noises are a bit too loud, I'm sure it affects me more than a lot of people but it can easily be remedied with free software. Thank you!

[@Mr.Autodelete]

Only 400 years? What about all the megafauna that died off is the fifth mass extinction not still going on? Maybe I am confused here

[@carlsagan2371]

"Jurrassic"? Really?! UNSUBSCRIBED!!!

[@leviahimsa]

Honey bees are disrupting native pollinator populations. They have the sole purpose of taking pollen to their hives for honey production, eliminating those botanical resources for native pollinators.

[@nategar412]

"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." Edward Abbey Edit: this is a condemnation of capitalism, not population growth.

[@AudioPervert1]

😊😊hh such lofty qoutes .. however 8 billion people is not growth it's overshoot leading to eventual collapse 😢😢😢

[@nategar412]

@@AudioPervert1 overpopulation isn't the issue. Lack of distribution of resources is.

[@nategar412]

@@AudioPervert1 the "growth" isn't population, it's the return on investment required by capitalism, including on basic necessities.

[@gardencompost259]

There is something to this statement, just look up the hallmarks of cancer. However, we humans are not immortal,but the way we handle energy is like a cancer and won’t die until it kills it’s host. Maybe it’s time that we are going to face a bottleneck, and are forced to change.we as humans have faced them before, but this time we are taking a lot down with us. We my get really close to killing our host, our only planet 🌎

[@scene247]

​@@gardencompost259😂 we change 😂😂😂😂

[@kittydranae1762]

As a Native American, I thank you for how respective you approach this subject, we have known how important and intricate this land is for thousands of years, it was only when The colonial world arrived that all of that changed

[@epaminon6196]

Oh please, your guys were already chasing buffalo herds off cliffs so they could gouge themselves on some of the buffalo meat long before the arrival of the first Europeans. If your ancestors had made it out of the Stone Age on their own, they would most likely have gone the same route of early modern Europeans.

[@mayatara1980]

​@@cameronmitchell180except none of those peoples actually ever became a cancer like the white colonialist did, despite having evolved for the same amount of time and have had all the chances to become just as destructive. Yes, they did fight amongst themselves, but they never fought the ecosystems they depended on, because they had awareness of how they should be preserved for their own survival.

[@kittydranae1762]

Keep believing that if you want, our culture had protected this land for a hundred thousand years until Europeans came along though, also have you ever actually studied biology and evolution? One group of animals can end up splitting up into hundreds of distinct groups that do their own thing. So your statement is completely inaccurate.

[@epaminon6196]

@@kittydranae1762 You never made it out of the Stone Age on your own. You managed to keep the population count low by waging tribal wars though. Combine a lack of technological innovation with a propensity to cull one's own population and you get an offshoot of humanity that didn't manage to claim dominion of the American continent. On the plus side, nature was able to regenerate around you, so you can now claim that you 'protected it' willfully. I mean, it's not like we could look at your written records from 500 years ago to prove the opposite, right? 😅

[@iveyhealth2266]

Facts 💯

[@Mike80528]

I find it amusing how many people consider us to be simply *observers* of the extinction event and not *participants* and all that means...

[@ifrooscouldfly]

We can do a lot as individuals. Consuming less and going plant based. Easy af

[@Mike80528]

@@ifrooscouldfly Your ignorance is so adorable.

[@adriansandlin556]

Exactly! We're accelerating this extinction event and despite our hubris telling us we can bounce from anything nature throws our way, it likely we'll be among the casualties. Victims of our own success.

[@forrestgossett]

Sheer numbers of humans on the planet means that even if we all reverted to food forests and stopped using plastics and most machinery, let cities crumble….it would not matter. There are simply too many of us. Why this isn’t talked about is beyond me. I suspect pandemics will eventually handle some of this overpopulation.

[@HCforLife1]

people are virtual signaling all the time. Everyone thinks that is precious and if only wield power - would change world for better. In reality most people are envy egoistic scumbags.

[@wilharrison8883]

I have lived in a cabin in northern California for the last twelve years. In that short time I have heard the first grow nearly silent. Twelve years ago I would hear birds in the morning, see many bats hunting the millions of insects in the evenings. Hundreds of squirrels were constantly bounding thru the trees. Thousands of insects of many species would come to the patio light. Now on a good night there will be two or three types of moth with at most 40 or 50 of them, most nights there will be almost zero. The squirrels and birds are nearly gone, the bats no longer seen at all. The tiny numbers of insects is the most frightening sign. I have seen the 6th extinction begin to take hold in the small microcosm. I can't imagine what another twelve years will bring. I'm old enough that it won't make a huge difference before I shoot thru the blue tunnel, but what will the young experience?

[@l0gic23]

Do what you can with your land.... Make habitat and if you can bring or invite life in, please do so. Thanks

[@marytica123]

YES, we live in semi-rural Central Florida - and have noticed the decline in wildlife especially. In 10 years, we have lost virtually ALL of the larger animals (deer, black bear, coyotes, wild hogs) and most of the smaller one. Birds are pretty much limited to scavengers (vultures and crows). The recent surge in home building is to blame - with lots being "clear cut" to accomodate construction.

[@jamesetal7088]

My experience as well in Western Appalachia in the USA. I have brought more insects and smaller mammals back with a food forest and lots of native plantings. Putting bat boxes up this winter. The bunny pop exploded and three hawks staked out the property. The bunny pop has either dropped or become more cryptic since the hawks arrived. Be well.

[@larapalma3744]

Hardly any bees anymore

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@l0gic23 That's what I do, but I don't see it done on the scale needed to make a difference, on the tragectory we're on. It's so sad. People worship their dead zones, i.e. lawns. Wildness is too messy for them, and too radical, as a replacement for their lawns.

[@bingosunnoon9341]

I witnessed extinction 60 years ago when an interstate freeway opened just upwind of our farm . Everything died within two or three years. Fruit trees and waterfowl were the first. Then the fish in the lake disappeared and an oil slick covered the surface. The well tasted like gasoline. We were forced to move away. The place looks awful now.

[@chesterfinecat7588]

I had a house in a little town that became a big ski resort. Yards all around me became "accessory dwelling units." Instead of a family on either side I had a parade of renting neighbors, all very excited to become part of "the community" and all sure to be gone in a year or two. The people became increasingly rude and entitled. They were paying astronomical rents and would do as they pleased. Noise from snowblowers, plows and idling vehicles warming up became persistent. I moved away. The place looks awful now.

[@thecanmanification]

I don’t think I’ve said this before but I really appreciate how openly anti capitalist this channel is. People need to understand that capitalism created this issue and is continuing to exacerbate it uncontrollably. People who are climate aware need to understand that things like carbon tax credits to capitalist corporations won’t fix anything. We need global policies that phase out fossil fuels as quickly as we can and stop worrying about the share prices of Exxon and Shell

[@CaptPeon]

Well said! The psychological effect of commodifying natural resources means that every capitalist has to exploit the resource faster than their competitors. People before profits! And people need a healthy habitat... aaaannnddd, I would say, it's also not all about us...

[@WasFakestCenturyAesthetics]

I agree with you. Bringing millions of people from warm countries to cold countries like Canada, where fossil fuels are at least for now required to survive in winter, must end immediately.

[@plantstho6599]

Being anti-capitalist doesn't tell people what we should be moving towards. What people need to know is what the actual solution to all the BS is. Nobody is talking about that.

[@thecanmanification]

@@plantstho6599 there are plenty of people more qualified than me who have brought solutions to the table. One of the many issues is that fossil fuel companies have to much control over governments all across the globe. A situation where the will of private companies overrides that of democratic governments is a problem with capitalism

[@CaptPeon]

@@plantstho6599 how about "people before profits" and the people need a healthy and diverse habitat in which to live.

[@sirmongrel511]

I can feel my sanity slipping away every day. I was a super idealist as a kid, now it's shattering to see how people have and are behaving. I'll give previous generations some leniency because they just didn't know better but anyone alive after say the 70s should understand the consequences... However, It's just getting exponentially worse! I've got to take a break from "doom scrolling" or I'm going to lose it.

[@donnavorce8856]

I can affect the land around me and my own "votes" buying carefully, MINDFULLY, in the market place. You can do this also. Every dollar we spend is a vote for the earth or against the earth.

[@batatanna]

@@donnavorce8856 Voting with the wallets is not a viable strategy because we as consumers have no perspective on the backbone systems of production and distribution that lead to the mass destruction our planet is going through. Usually there are only a few select companies that are in charge of resource extraction in a given area and all other companies down the chain are buying from these, so essentially, you can't just vote with your wallet cause your vote is going to the same place.

[@baksteen2420]

Feel you bro. From my own experience, my advice would be to get involved in activism and meet like-minded people. This is a burden too big to carry alone. Take care

[@damjanmuskinja9227]

​@@donnavorce8856you sound insane

[@jingbot1071]

@@donnavorce8856 You're literally a Cruelty Squad npc.

[@knutthompson7879]

This extinction is very, very different for many reasons, but in particular because it is measured in decades and centuries instead of tens of thousands to millions of years. The shock to the ecosystem is unlike anything the Earth has been through before.

[@Bluesine_R]

The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was a pretty big shock, but this is definitely on a comparable level.

[@knutthompson7879]

@@Bluesine_R The impact was obviously a shock, especially regionally, but the global extinction event actually took approximately 32000 years as ecosystems adjusted. Some research suggests it may have been less than 10000 years, but still the change now is, globally, even faster. What we are doing is literally a bigger shock than an asteroid hitting the planet.

[@rosengrenj9]

They also theorize one of the extinctions could have been caused by a supernova, so this could maybe be the third fastest mass extinction event?

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@Bluesine_R Though it is like comparing apples to oranges.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@rosengrenj9 And the one with the least excuse.

[@xXNekou]

It's really depressing. I'm vegan and I try to shop consiously, use less plastic etc, but I know what needs to change is basically the whole system, and I cannot fathom how so many people are so oblivious to it all, and they don't seem to care, or they only care about profits. How is money gonna save you when there is no more food left, no more fresh air, no more clean water, and no more usable land?

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

The issue is that individualism can't do jack. The hierarchies are still there. What would be more effective would be sustainable and local farming, with a focus on plants. Think Cuba when the embargo started. Once you have people and communities free from dependency on corporations or government, then you can do easily do change because your supply lines are in your hands, not their.

[@ksw12667]

@@GalacticNovaOverlord Sustainable would require having animals to provide fertilizer for the plants and to support the soils ecosystem.

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

@@ksw12667 You don't need animal specifically

[@ksw12667]

@@GalacticNovaOverlord How are you going to feed the plants?

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

@@ksw12667 more dead plants and animal byproducts (like eggshells) It's not hard

[@nietzschebietzsche]

Thanks!

[@CaptPeon]

I'm an ecologist and I have mixed feelings about having to justify sustainable communities through quantifying ecosystem services. "Why shouldn't we milk the earth to death?" Is the question I hear all the time from the lay-person unconcerned with the health and diversity of the planet. Why does the value of the WORLD have to revolve around YOU!?

[@Skoda130]

Because to come into action, we need to be incentivized, instead of constantly fighting an uphill battle. We're not hardwired for struggling without rewards.

[@rungus24]

I think the same thing when I find myself telling people that using taxes to pay for healthcare and education is good because it feeds the economy. Obviously I also think valuing human life and happiness is good, but when the arguments against helping people are economic, the rebuttals always end up being economic too.

[@gapsule2326]

Ironically that value doesnt even reach the normal person since so much commodities are thrown out by corporations. We have fields of cars rotting unsold.

[@mackone8035]

So i assume all of you people were involved in the latest XR demo or water defense or pipeline protest, etc.

[@rungus24]

@@mackone8035 Why do you say that?

[@ErutaniaRose]

Capitalism sounds like an abusive relationship to me tbh. The kind where you are blamed as if your behaviour causes the abuse, similar to how gas companies blame people with individual carbon footprints.

[@b43xoit]

Wouldn't you normally be honest?

[@baksteen2420]

Interesting to look at it from the perspective of a relationship. Gonna give that some more thought, thanks for sharing.

[@BluetheRaccoon]

@@b43xoit How is your question relevant?

[@StressRUs]

Great metaphor! So, I guess the Stockholm Syndrome applies as well? We've been mindlessly burning fossil fuels so long that we've become proponents of a world ending behavior? Yup, sounds right to me.

[@ToxicSentinelTTV]

How would socialism fix these issues? Just curious.

[@BladeValant546]

I like to piggy back, 1. The dodo wasnt just hunted but also killed off by another major human-caused event. The introduction of invasive species, rats, and cats was another cause. 2. I glad you brought up civilizations that trued to go with the flow without infantizing native americans. Exploitative economics sadly is a human thing it in imperialistic powers. Europeans seemed to not learn from the ruins of the Aztecs and Mayans clear cutting their forests and ruining their topsoil. We have to seriously fight back against this mode of production. (I want to make a slightly correction for clarity) The notion of the collapse of the Mayans is still a debated topic. I encourage folks to read up on Mayan collapse it still relevant to how climate change can affect Civilizations) 3. Love you brought up furr traders. 4. Climate change is such a terrible thing hard to see any hope.

[@knozos]

Just a correction of your second point, there was nothing to learn from the Mayan ruins back then, the theories of overexploitation of natural resources are very modern, not 100% certain (although very likely) and the peninsula was still greatly populated to think of any kind of previous collapse, the Mayan language is spoken to this day in the region. And regarding the Aztecs, you must be thinking of the builders of Teotihuacan, long gone by the time the Mexica (the main enemy of the first europeans who landed in modern Mexico) arrived and built their own empire with Tenochtitlan at its core (a completely different city). Not a chance of linking the civilization they saw with an empire that starved their resources to death. I think they had more chance to learn from Iceland, once lush with forest and pretty much bald since like 1,000 years ago by human hands, although it always maintained a population unlike those old cities.

[@President_NotSure]

they didn't eat dodo's they were just bored

[@hase.von.b]

I was also going to mention the introduction of invasive species as a cause of dodo extinction. I'm glad someone did. Greetings!

[@BladeValant546]

@@knozos That is a possibility on the Aztec side of things. However, what I learned on the Mayan ruins we don't know fully why they just up and left their cities. However, the ecological part of the hypothesis stems from the whole thesis concerning Euro-Centric civilization perspectives in Archeology. The fact Mayans were building massive cities with foundations and plumbing. This stems from more than likely a double whammy of climate change event with added crops. However, regardless of the details I think it is still even more relevant that a climate disaster was a major component to their collapse showing how much large Civilizations can be affected by our climate. Thank you for the good faith discussion, it is hard to have these with out some dog-whistle to white supremacy and also I was trying NOT to go deep into whataboutisms as European exploitation is in a league of its own. I made a clarification change.

[@OurChangingClimate]

Regarding invasive species and Dodo's, yes!! I blew right past it in my script and am kicking myself. I just added it to the corrections list!

[@rennu2905]

I went to visit the great barrier reef in 2019 and was really horrified at how bleached the coral was

[@anthonymorris5084]

There are numerous articles from authoritative sites that clearly show the great barrier reef is recovering. The greatest threats to reefs are agricultural runoff and too many humans interacting with the reef. They put sunscreen in the water and cause physical damage. It is quite common to sink old ships off shore. They do this because coral grows on the wreck and creates a reef.

[@edbollett9083]

Unfortunately there's so much propaganda about the coral reefs that one would simply just have to witness it for their selves and arrive at their own conclusion.. The latest hype on the extinction of the coral reefs being the climate change issues that lead to ocean temperature rise as well as sea level rise. Personally don't buy in to everything I hear about climate change. Even though one can't help but see the effects of "Pollution" all around them the facts about pollution ironically goes along with some of the things said about climate change. But what's stated in a reply to comment about the sinking of ships to encourage the regrowth of coral reefs is spot on.. That's one thing that I have eye witnessed happening now....

[@sentoo7606]

@@anthonymorris5084 1 year later and the good news and not that good anymore :/

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@sentoo7606 How so? I just read a study showing that the Great Barrier Reef has almost fully recovered. There's also studies that demonstrate coral reefs everywhere go through these cycles. It's normal. Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history.

[@spindlecitysister]

We not only _need_ nature, we are part of it.

[@softhotty]

Not for much longer!

[@karld1791]

It really burns me up when we subsidize fossil fuel drilling, roads for driving that are 50% paid for by income taxes, regulate large parking minimums, and single use zoning putting homes a long drive from shops. These regulations and subsidies increase pollution while harming the economy by favoring inefficient building and transportation.

[@williamcrossan9333]

Precisely the Australian approach.

[@Jozeemoss]

But Al Gore, friend of earth, sworn enemy of mankind and big cheif of the Gaia worshippers prophesied that the North and South pole would be melted by now. O well,,, may we genocide ourselves starting with poor, deniers and unborn to start. Hopefully that will be enough to please the Gods.

[@redtidereadings]

​@@goldenhawk352what? Enacting policies to stop global warming would take a global effort. A single city being sustainable will not change our fate.

[@karld1791]

@@goldenhawk352 our federal and state taxes are used to subsidize fossil fuel drilling and use. This should stop.

[@DrSpooglemon]

@@goldenhawk352 Would people in that city still be forced by the state to contribute to oil subsidies?

[@sebastiandomagala9233]

I have seen a good example in Germany: there was a water well for a soda company. It used water from very deep areas under the soil and was allowed to do so, because there was no proof of harm to the environment. The opposite must be standard: as long as any harm to the environment can´t be excluded, such endeavour must be prohibited.

[@Mike80528]

Similar in California - Nestle draws millions of gallons for bottled water...

[@brent4674]

That sounds totalitarion lol

[@jordanh9668]

So you mean to tell me if any bit of harm is done to the environment by any process, it shouldn’t be allowed???

[@sebastiandomagala9233]

@@jordanh9668 We're talking about Soda companies, they take some amounts of water. Environmental damage is not just a couple of trees cut to build their facility. It is like the fading water levels in Spain, where the agriculture is drying out the entire country. With devastating effects.

[@uweengelmann3]

But the problem of reversing the proof is, that it is next to impossible to prove any action to be harmless. There needs to be a middle ground between the two ways of looking.

[@noeraldinkabam]

Sometimes (more and more the older I get) I hate my own species. The really, really hard to believe part is we are actively killing our selves too. I can understand poor people saying we have to eat. Our kids have to eat and go to school etc. But we have people knowing everything going on multiple trips in a plane to a place that they know can not sustain them being there. Entitlement…

[@mrrecluse7002]

Yeah, an assumption of "entitlement" will be our undoing.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

"Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@Jozeemoss]

But Al Gore, friend of earth, sworn enemy of mankind and big cheif of the Gaia worshippers prophesied that the North and South pole would be melted by now. O well,,, may we genocide ourselves starting with poor, deniers and unborn to start. Hopefully that will be enough to please the Gods.

[@shrubbie69]

you are not alone in feeling this. just please remember its not our whole species. look how loving and intelligent we can be, its the very few in power are are greedy soulless idiots that only care about profit.

[@allyson--]

qote-sharing slay

[@peterchui1964]

Just one thing: there is no “reversing” the catastrophe, only mitigation. We are talking about life being killed en masse everyday, often in gruesome ways. There is no “reversing” the damage, regardless of whether or not new life emerges.

[@nelshmel]

I watch a good handful of climate channels, and it's such a breath of fresh air that you aren't afraid to say the C-word. Capitalism really is driving us into the ground, and no real positive change can happen until more people realize that. I can see your channel being an important entry point in the leftist pipeline. Good stuff as always.

[@paulscottfilms]

Yep, straight down the path to the cave of socialist control and collapse...

[@mrrecluse7002]

That's true, but here Capitalism is being used as a scapegoat for human nature. The basic problem here is that all species will fill an environment until there is an "overshoot," to available resources. At that point, nature will cull it until an equalibrium is established. This predicament has little to do with ideology, and more to do with the human capacity for violence towards the planet, each other, and ourselves. I think Capitalism was inevitable. Everything that humans can conceive of, will be pursued, if, and when possible. But we, as humans, are the only real issue. Our existence, in this former garden paradise of the "goldilocks zone."

[@deodarhill]

oh look another person using capitalist products blaming capitalism.

[@nelshmel]

​@@deodarhill Pretty sure the products I use are created by workers. I believe those workers should have full autonomy and freedom. I am actively fighting for that to become a reality. I don't see much hypocrisy there. By the way- in good faith- if you disagree with a piece of content, you don't have to engage with it. It doesn't mean you lost the argument. The internet can be a friendly place if we make it one.

[@deodarhill]

@@nelshmel I’m just in awe of people complaining about capitalism while enjoying all the merits of living in a capitalist world.

[@sixstar2067]

I forget who wrote it but there is a saying: " It is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imaging the endo of capitalism." My intent in mentioning this is not to give up on the idea of ending capitalism, but to point out that more needs to be done in expanding the imagination of the average person when it comes to economic frameworks.

[@pyjonyr5029]

The quote is by Mark Fisher's book Capitalist Realism, it's a short read with too much relevance for the way people feel about their lives and about our lost futures.

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

wrong wr0ong WRONG. stop trying, give up, we are dead.

[@derptomistic]

If there's one thing we need to learn from the nightmare hellscape we're making for ourselves, it's that we need a separation of wealth and state

[@TheSuperRatt]

Wealth only has legitimacy because it is backed by the state. Currency, without the backing of a strong institution, has either no, or wildly fluctuating, value. To the effect that it becomes worthless as currency. Which is good.

[@Jozeemoss]

But Al Gore, friend of earth, sworn enemy of mankind and big cheif of the Gaia worshippers prophesied that the North and South pole would be melted by now. O well,,, may we genocide ourselves starting with poor, deniers and unborn to start. Hopefully that will be enough to please the Gods.

[@jacqueslee2592]

True. How a corporation and even individuals have ownership to thousands of acres and resources and can claim rights to raze everything on this land to exploit its resource is an outdated concept that needs to be overthrown one day similar to how absolute monarchies were overthrown. There is no power in this world that can grant you ownership of nature.

[@brianc8821]

You make it sound like we aren't on the chopping block ourselves. Either by our own self-destructive tendencies, or by becoming obsolete by artificial intelligence. Organic life is only a stepping stone.

[@rudra62]

Yes, indeed. Humans are on the "chopping block" for extinction. Wild animals where adults are over about 40 KG (It might be less now - I looked at this several years ago) are threatened with extinction. The only reason that humans and our farm animals over that size are not going extinct is because of human intelligence to modify the environment to our desires. How long that can go on is debatable.

[@jessicapatton2688]

I had a similar thought…..we designed our replacement. We probably won’t be able to survive but robots and ai can. I mean, we used to have Giant Lizards here reality is very strange!

[@rudra62]

@@jessicapatton2688 AI isn't there YET. It probably will get there, and as fast as Moore's Law will indicate. Brings up another thing about extraterrestrial intelligent life, which we have not detected. If we ever do, will it be life, or their technological successors? If they exist, they may have figured out that it's not great to advertise their existence.

[@OverlordShamala]

Last year, I visited my uncles ranch in Texas, near Stepheville. It was sold to a real estate development. It wasn't the only ranch sold, other neighboring ranches were sold for development. The ranch was already suffering from the drought, a little lake & connecting river we used to frolick & fishing even 20 years ago, was totally gone due to the drought. But the area was still beautiful, & one of the interesting thing about the area was the fossils of sea life, usually shells of clams & ammonites. And the history in the area, as well a part of it that was supposedly hunted & the 'spooky bridge'. And the native animal population that still roam the area, surviving one way or another the drought. Well, this spring the real estate company razed down everything, I was shock how quickly they razed the area. I feel sorry for the ghost & the frogs, & the animals that roamed the area. They have nowhere to go now. People & wildlife never mix well, any surviving animals will be eradicated one way or another. I don't think will be able to stop the 6th extinction wave. We are going to suffer the full consequences of the climate change. It's very too late & is little what we can do about it.

[@kated3165]

I mean, at this point, our biggest worry should be the reality that we might push our planet out of its ''Goldilock zone''. We take for granted our planet being habitable, but turns out that out that only a few planets ever get a window perfect for life... and that this window is, not only, always temporary but also seemingly sitting on a rather delicate balance.

[@DSTKO-w7z]

Well the planet will remain habitable even if we nuke ourselves into extinction. Some life will survive and the planet will heal. The asteroid that ended the dinosaurs hit the earth with more power than all the nukes in the world combined. It caused global forest fires. Darkened the skies for years and the air became poisoned. Yet after a mere nine million years (which is nothing on a geological scale) you started seeing megafauna emerge. Of course the issue isn't the resilience of the planet. We are not as resilient as Earth is and we are creating conditions that threaten our survival. We will die off way before the planet ever becomes inhabitable.

[@paulscottfilms]

For a climate zombie you know a lot about other planets' climates.

[@kated3165]

@@paulscottfilms "Climate zombie" lol? What is that, a Qanon term??

[@krackatowski]

@@kated3165 no human could ever push the earth out of the Goldilocks zone because it’s just the zone where the sun can cause liquad water which doesn’t have anything to do with the earths climate because the earth has always been in the Goldilocks zone and it was once completely lava and it was also once completely ice but the normal state of the earth is water so if humans completely destroyed the environment and did mass extinction event and also ended humanity the earth would be fine in a few million years even if we nuked it.

[@UnknownPascal-sc2nk]

The living part of the planet is an incredibly thin film on the surface, equivalent to the skin of an apple. The rest is dead rock. People say that even if we go extinct the planet will be fine. By "fine" do they mean that it will stay more or less round? The damage we are doing is not restricted to our own habitat.

[@savvysmiles1121]

I'd be interested in seeing the concept of food forests listed more often in the discussion of solarpunk as a specific proposal of a type of agriculture that would be more harmonious with environmental well-being. Currently to my knowledge it's done in relatively small scale but imagine replacing some of the endless crop fields with food forests that not only allow for cultivation of many types of food producing plants on the same land but also learns from the ways forest ecosystems work and are more self sustaining through plant tree and fungi interactions.

[@paulscottfilms]

The best and only necessary food for plants is CO2. About 1000ppm would be ok. But not for you climate zombies to worry about

[@timeenoughforart]

Food forest are labor intensive. To be successful we would need a fundamental change in our relationship with food. There is a reason we have so few examples. A cautionary note, I would love to see these forest replacing industrial agriculture, but too many replace "wild" forest.

[@RYANMALLOYY]

I’m an elementary school admin and I am trying to get a food forest / orchard going that the kids can manage. It’s a great way of teaching kids about responsible land management practices, nutrition, and many other important things. Would love to see every school provide more opportunities for kids to learn valuable ecological principles and practices through a well-planned gardening program. There’s a lot of space on many school campuses that could be much better utilized. Whatever ecological wisdom we still have needs to be passed down to the next generations rapidly and effectively.. for everyone’s sake.

[@Jozeemoss]

But Al Gore, friend of earth, sworn enemy of mankind and big cheif of the Gaia worshippers prophesied that the North and South pole would be melted by now. O well,,, may we genocide ourselves starting with poor, deniers and unborn to start. Hopefully that will be enough to please the Gods.

[@brucepoole8552]

California was a food forest, oak trees produced acorns which the indians learned to make edible

[@1urie1]

Exploitation in capitalism means that it is "working as intended"

[@rollerskdude]

Exploitation in communism means that it is "working as intended"

[@rickb3650]

It is literally the definition of capitalism.

[@Th3EnterNal]

@@rickb3650 Capitalism is private property + free markets... maybe learn a thing or two?

[@rickb3650]

@@Th3EnterNal maybe you should spend a little less time on KZbin and Fox News, and pick up an actual textbook. Try one with the word economics in the title Just to be clear, so you don't get confused, you'll have to open and read the words inside the textbook

[@Th3EnterNal]

@@rickb3650 Cool emotional rant. I forgot to put trigger warnings on my post so please excuse me.

[@SuperTonyony]

Infinite growth on a finite planet is impossible.

[@RusTsea196T]

In any previous Mass Extinction event, name one example of the top of the food chain that survived into the next era. None, and humans shouldn't expect to be any different. I.e., mass extinction is human extinction, too.

[@rudra62]

It's the small animals, who mutate and adapt, and use few resources that live through any mass extinction.

[@zackwolf4625]

The extraction of whale oil driving them almost to extinction is a great example to add to the video in retrospect. It’s also nice bc they’ve almost come back. Thanks OCC for the amazing videos!!!

[@annecronin8339]

Also the demand of whalebone for use in women's corsets.

[@mikepilkenton2383]

The invention of the light bulb and discovery of fossil fuels helped save the whales.

[@lrimmf]

@@mikepilkenton2383 Actually, you have it kinda backwards. It was the fact the whaling was becoming prohibitive (costs-wise). As a species, we generally never look for alternatives until we have no other choice. It would be wonderful if this were the exception to the rule...

[@daviddobarganes9115]

Ah the 80s When losing drinkable water was actually enough motivation to stop capitalistic suicide

[@paulscottfilms]

another day another zombie sloganeer

[@stephentrueman4843]

funny you say that because in the UK (england and wales especially) all our rivers are polluted with a "cocktail of chemicals" according to a government report in 2021

[@Dan-dy8zp]

More people have drinkable water than in the 80's.

[@daviddobarganes9115]

@@Dan-dy8zp that Nestle doesnt own and commoditize?

[@acanadianknight7269]

This gives me climate anxiety but also gives me hope

[@mikeharrington5593]

Set aside hope, & set aside despair - time is short and we have to live like we appreciate what we have now, & to behave as responsibly as we can, whilst maintaining a light touch on the environment.

[@Jozeemoss]

But Al Gore, friend of earth, sworn enemy of mankind and big cheif of the Gaia worshippers prophesied that the North and South pole would be melted by now. O well,,, may we genocide ourselves starting with poor, deniers and unborn to start. Hopefully that will be enough to please the Gods.

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

don't have hope. hope is a lie

[@bensear]

this is absolutely terrifying, the fact that so many people are cosplaying as ostriches right now and denying the great loss of life on earth is possibly worse.

[@Trace-l7k]

Just a night time windshield proves the point.

[@skipmartin3469]

The planet has survived other mass extinctions. It will survive this one too. Earth doesn't need us, we need it. You pick.

[@bri1085]

12:41 minor correction, rhino horns don't even have ivory, and are instead made of keratin

[@k9spot1]

correct. it’s actually elephant tusks which have ivory

[@theprecipiceofreason]

At the end of the day, they still grind them up for 8oner magic

[@beastmaster0934]

@@k9spot1 Hippo tusks too.

[@driftlesshermit]

​@@beastmaster0934walrus as well.

[@oneshothunter9877]

@@theprecipiceofreason 8oner magic. Man down 😂😂😂 Thanks for the laugh. 👍

[@1May1312]

I never understood how “human nature” can be shaped by the mode of production until I studied dialectical materialism. Totally debunks the garbage we learn in Econ 101. Love your channel!

[@thegrumpypanda1016]

Any good resources on dialectical materialism.

[@bugsbunny4647]

@@thegrumpypanda1016 Just search "Dialectical Materialism" and/or "Historical Materialism" (these two are not the same, learn both) plus "Karl Marx" in the search bar for Google or KZbin. The KZbin channel "The Marxist Project" has a playlist on the fundamentals of Marxism. Not bad, I'd say. If you see videos worshipping the USSR or China, find another source. Or chew the meat and spit out the bones, like I do. Cheers!

[@olenagirich1884]

Yeah, Econ 101 is capitalist brainwash 101.

[@gijsbrans2338]

An interesting, and in my opinion important addition to the story of the historical emergence of the climate crisis is the story of its philosophical roots. That is, the philosophical ideas that emerged alongside our modern destructive relationship with nature. Notable figures to the story you tell in this video are Locke and Descartes. Locke is important because he gave the philosophical justification for European colonialism. Locke argued that all land was held in the commons untill it was cultivated, after which it belonged to whomever cultivated it. Because native Americans did not cultivate their land to European standards, American land was seen as rightfully the European's property after they cultivated it. Decartes is perhaps more interesting. His idea of mind-body dualism has had a massive influence on how we see and talk about ourselves and the environment to this day. Decartes thought that the body was mechanistic, material entity; from which the mind was distinct. He thought humans possessed a mind with rational thought, which operated the body. But he believed that animals did not possess a mind, instead they were more like machines just performing their functions. This means that nature is fully understandable and even predictable if we know enough about it. To Decartes, nature only existed to be used by humans for their benefit, nature only existed as an object for humans to control and study, not as something with agency or worth in itself. We still largely talk about nature in this way. Many of the sciences still treat nature as nothing more than an object to be studied and controlled. Science is often primarily used to control nature. It is clear now, that this way of viewing nature has been greatly destructive. It has not just been destructive to our environment, but also to ourselves. This is because we are part of the environment, we are all interconnected. It is therefore imperitive that we embrace ontologies that emphasize our interconnectedness with nature, instead of our being seperated from nature.

[@natwilson9338]

your point about descartes is so true- a few weeks ago a friend of mine asked me if i think animals have consciences and i was in shock that that would even be a question one could ask. but the way you outline that philosophy it makes sense, even if i think it's fundamentally wrong

[@Faustobellissimo]

Well, the problem of where to draw the separation line between numan and nature is still unresolved. It's not as easy as you seem to think. Plants, animals, prehistoric humans, protohistoric indigenous people, civilized humans... is there an essential difference between them or is it just a matter of degree in environmental footprint? I wouldn't be so quick at justifying the behavior of prehistoric and indigenous people, as the youtuber does in this video... I think it is delusional to think that a comeback to the past would be useful, or even feasable, in regard to solving our environmental problems. Things may be exactly the opposite you wrote. If humans and nature are interconnected, that means it's just a matter of degree of behavior, we have the same instincts as animals, and animals take whatever they can from nature, without any environmental qualms, they're just not able to destroy nature as we do, but they would if they could... On the contrary, if humans and nature are essentially different this is proved by the fact that humans are the only species to actually have environmental qualms. In other words, our special essence will exactly be the remedy to the destructiveness of animals that reached the apex with ourselves.

[@gijsbrans2338]

@@Faustobellissimo I think it is undeniable that humans have a much larger environmental impact than other animals - but that does not change that humans and nature are interconnected. We shape the environment, and the environment shapes us. Humans are a product of evolution, even if we have become more dominant than any other species ever has. We are a part of the environment, just as other animals are, but our effect on the environment has become much greater. This has brought us benefits, but it is also harming ourselves and many other species. That is why we should be more understanding of our interconnectedness with nature, to both protect ourselves and protect other life on Earth. It is not only the lack of eye for interconnectedness which is a problem with old ontologies, but also the view of nature as something which just exists to be controlled and studied by us. Viewing us as above nature quickly leads to that conclusion, but we have never been able to truly and fully control nature. It has always moved in ways that were unwanted or we could not predict. We can never really move to be above our environment, we are inherently a part of it. We should let go of our (destructive) desire of control. What is true of what is said in the video, is that many indigenous peoples live(d) in a much more balanced way with their environment. We can learn from this, but that does not mean we should move to more primitive ways of life in order to save the environment. There are many opportunities for us to be more environmentally friendly now. We should let nature thrive around and with us, instead of killing it. Because killing nature is also killing ourselves.

[@Faustobellissimo]

@@gijsbrans2338 Evolution doesn't work with us "understanding". Evolution just gave animals, and ultimately us, the will and the ability to take advantage of the environment, eventually through our intelligence and handiness, that makes us the most destructive animals of all. What you call "understanding" is something else, it's a mixture of innate and acquired traits that seem to have the purpose of correcting evolution, specifically correcting the evolutionary success of us humans. Of course these two parts of human nature may and always do coexist in the same individual, but nonetheless they remain essentially different, like fire and water. This doesn't make us hypocrites, it just makes us humans. On the contrary, thinking that humans are just a piece of the biosphere is delusional. Humans evolved to be the most successful at destroying the biosphere...

[@gijsbrans2338]

@@Faustobellissimo by "understanding" I simply meant we should try to understand now how we are interconnected with nature, not that we have it as a result of evolution. Additionally, us being so destructive to the biosphere does not mean that we are distinct from it. As I already said, completely destroying the biosphere would most likely also mean destroying ourselves. We are not as much in control as we like to think. Yes, our impact on the environment his bigger than that of any other species, but that does not mean we are completely seperate from the environment. We also live in that environment, and its destruction will be enormously detrimantal to humans too.

[@1503010]

Thanks for actually referring to climate change as a form of terraforming. The number of people I discussed climate change who do not believe human effort can do this but have full hope for interplanetary terraforming is staggering

[@philippedefossez3421]

In the words of the French philosopher Guy Debord, "The spectacle is the nightmare of imprisoned modern society which ultimately expresses nothing more than its desire to sleep. The spectacle is the guardian of sleep.". It's absolutely astonishing and profoundly alienating to observe ourselves metaphorically watching television in the living room with the whole house on fire. We truly find ourselves in state of utter hypnosis, totally conditioned by ways of "life" that show no correspondance whatsoever with the natural state of connectivity and interdependence that was once our own and everything else's.

[@danbeaulieu2130]

Indeed. I smell the smoke. Dr David Suzuki said, in the early 1970s, that if we did not back off from the rampant paving over of our forests, marshes, and farmland, to build malls and parking lots, we would eventually be faced with uncontrollable wildfires and the north and west And here we are. 50 years later.

[@Canvas73120]

Someday some alien species will teach to their children that how a parasite species called humans destroyed a magnificient planet just for serving the 1%

[@steve94183]

We can end Capitalism or end the world. It's one or the other. Personally, I'm going with the option where we still have a future to look forward to. Hopefully, more people realize this before its too late.

[@vietnamd0820]

Ending capitalism is important to addressing climate change, although it isn’t enough…we need to end exploitation of humans by other humans, and also end the exploitation of animals by humans to have the best shot of living within the limitations of our environment

[@holleey]

@@vietnamd0820 that would be the natural consequence of ending capitalism. exploitation is not in our nature, the sole reason we still do so is that capitalism incentivises and demands it.

[@b43xoit]

It's probably already too late.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@@vietnamd0820 See my comment to holleey.

[@paulscottfilms]

Yes I know and its not like communism hasn't already been tried.

[@JCarrera_ll]

Consequences of ignorance, they'll keep on ignoring, only lies of change, of care, yet nothing will change, they won't really care, some of us are not enough we all need to unite change together, sadly i think we'll just have to embrace extinction, sorry to the souls of the young who'll have to face it

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

You can't really fault that there's many naive and busy people. Then you should share with them positive and factual videos. Like DW Planet A, Not Just Bikes, NHK Japan, Brothers Make, and Mossy Earth. Some environmentalists should stop chasing people away with crazy acts. Like the El Paso shooter shooting people for the environment.

[@chrisbarry9345]

People think of the dinosaurs and the impact of an asteroid as the fastest extinction and don't realize that we are currently in the middle of the fastest extinction ever

[@stevenbragg85]

I believe it still took dinosaurs 10k-20k years to all die off after the impact

[@pooryorick831]

I don't know about others, but I really don't want to starve to death. It's slow and painful. But we are one agricultural disaster away from famine on a scale never seen. I hope we can prevent that.

[@jessicapatton2688]

I actually was thinking about that ths morning!!! And honestly, by day 3 with no food people will start eating each other😂

[@polyglottenforpain]

Great video, let us all be stewards of the land and therefore each other.

[@Nine-Signs]

70% of ALL animals on the surface are gone along with 50% of our ocean phytoplankton that overall produces 80% of our oxygen supply, and all just in the last 70yrs of my still living mother. You do the math.

[@dvdso]

This Channel should include Brazilian savana (cerrado) in this conversation. Way less protected and on the verge of disappearing completely

[@mikeskylark1594]

THIS. NEEDS. TO. GET. VIRAL.

[@bobdillaber1195]

Does man learn from history? Man, as an individual, does. Man, as a group, never does.

[@thecrippledpancake9455]

13:10 - Capitalism 15:22 - Meat market example 18:40 - Stoping a mass extinction

[@euroschmau]

It's too late and a collapse of the life sustaining systems is inevitable. I used to have hope, but greed is simply a too powerful and pervasive force. My conscience is clear however, for I did not father additional human life into this dying world; one less soul will need to suffer what is to come. Now I just have to do what is necessary to live and await humanity's impending doom.

[@aatsiii]

I think humanity is having massive party at the end of it's history.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Many people don't know about these things or think environmentalists are crazy. Like the El Paso Walmart shooter shooting people for the environment. So you're overly blaming people. If you're the one who knows then you should share positive and factual videos with people. Like DW Planet A, Not Just Bikes, NHK Japan Zero Waste, Brothers Make, and Mossy Earth.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@@aatsiii See my comment to the OP.

[@naniyotaka]

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c That’s pointless. These videos will not be watched by people who don’t want to feel uncomfortable (the majority) or even when they watch it, they will feel overwhelmed and helpless, so even tho one should try, on the end of the day, your actions are meaningless because you can’t change a system from the bottom up, you have to cut its head or create a new system (if the current one will let you do it).

[@oliverquick3405]

@aatsiii party with what exactly? We will be fuc$ed in ways unimaginable to our tiny consumer brains, dying of thirst and hunger will be the regular "natural cause of death" because in this sterile soil with every earthworm and insect extinct there will be literally nothing but dust and money for us to eat- tldr if you wanna "party", do it now

[@BladeValant546]

Anthropocene

[@filipdahl6774]

Indeed

[@GTAVictor9128]

No, it's the capitalocene. Humans have existed in harmony with nature for millennia. It's only when capitalism developed that environmental destruction started occurring at a massive scale.

[@Wilhelm96]

Thank you so much for the new word. I've added it to my vocabulary! Interesting stuff!

[@Wilhelm96]

*in a negative way, but still interesting

[@BladeValant546]

@@GTAVictor9128 that is the official scientific classification of the current extinction event, we were having major negative impacts long before Europeans, it's just exponentially gotten worse. I study climatology currently and humans have to drop our exploitative and infinite growth nature. Though your word colloquially does make sense in today's context.

[@lokismischief2512]

We killed the forests, seas, archipelagos, lakes and soil... i weep for every species lost to our parasitic avarice.

[@liasonlee1248]

People often say that greed is what going to destroy us all, but as the matter of fact, majority of us are not really greedy, as human beings, we all live side by side with nature for generations, and appreciate every resources and wealth we gain through exploiting the nature, only to lose it to the greed of certain group of minority, that they are too the ones who created such system that destroys our home at an unprecedented rate.

[@MisterTactless]

One of your best videos yet.

[@plantstho6599]

A Resource-Based Economy is the only thing that can save us and there's a reason why nobody is talking about it.

[@jackbucher2049]

technically, aren't all economies based upon resources? did you mean renewable resources?

[@antred11]

I fear, realistically, nothing can save us now. A resource-based economy, if it means what I think it means, can exist only if people learn some moderation, i.e. take only what they really need and no more (that is essentially the ideal communism strives for but never reached). For this to happen, the very nature of humanity would have to undergo a radical change, because people are, on average, too selfish for that.

[@plantstho6599]

@@jackbucher2049 Watch Zeitgeist Moving Forward

[@BladeValant546]

​@@antred11there is no one human nature, we can change if we culturally reward behaviors we want.

[@GeomeTeamCraft]

humans are shaped by what's around them, and it is foolish to assume human nature is a constant that isn't changing, because that would mean we'd all be the same always. The reason so many of us are selfish is because we've been brought up in an economic system that rewards greed and stomping over others. If humans change according to a system, wouldn't you agree that a system based off of helping the most amount of people would be the one who should prevail?

[@End_Orca_Captivity]

Loved that Vandana Shiva got a mention. I only found out about her earlier this year and have subsequently devoured many of her talks and lectures and have her books on my wish-list. As a complete amateur on the economy and capitalism, the analogy that comes to mind is that of drug addiction. We're so addicted to the concepts of money, profit and constant growth, it won't be easy for many to let go, even when we are face to face with the destruction it is now causing. On some level, 'cold-turkey' has to happen.

[@Drekromancer]

Well said. She's an excellent example to follow.

[@PraveenSrJ01]

This video frightened me since the sixth extinction event might actually come up fruition in my lifetime 😢

[@rudra62]

Consider now the ethics and morality of having children, who may have this come to fruition much earlier in their lifetimes. How much suffering will *that* cause? Someone who never comes into existence simply cannot suffer.

[@pubertdefrog]

I don’t doubt things will inevitably get better, the only reason why it’s so hard to achieve much at the moment is because older people who don’t want things to change are the ones in power. The ratio between the younger people with that mindset vs ones who oppose it , Is in favor of the latter

[@rickb3650]

Consider that all of us, young and old included, have been indoctrinated to believe that there are no options to the model that is killing us and everything else. Our problems are not generational, they are social and ubiquitous. No mater where or when you look, there is an underlying premise that the pursuit of power must always override everything else. That the desire to impose one's will onto others is natural and inevitable. That there is nothing wrong with having more than we need, or even more than we could ever possibly use. And most importantly, that we will never actually die.

[@Stalennin]

I'll be honest, when I clicked this I wasn't expecting to see anticapitalist propaganda. That was absolutely on point. Good job, very well said!

[@paulocoelho558]

What truly frustrates me is that despite the scientific community's proven solutions and abundance of ingenious ideas, our efforts to address climate change and preserve our planet seem to revolve solely around social factors. It's disheartening to realize that the core issue lies in our collective consciousness - it's a problem that encompasses all of us. It's a WE problem that demands collective action. Thank you for talking about these Catastrophes!

[@marcriba7581]

Hi! Ex-new age boi here, it took me a while to understand what you were actually saying. Wow. You people really are like homeopathy: absolutelly useless when it comes to face any serious problem, but a good source of tranquility for those who simply can't face reality. So, your solution would imply doing MORE of what new age has always been about: working on a grandiouse magic image of the self, because ME changing means EVERYONE changes. The peak of the capitalist liberal psychology, oversimplified with lots of well sounding "ressonating" words.

[@hello7032]

As an ecologist….*yes*. It’s maddening.

[@liberty-matrix]

"There are huge non climate effects of carbon dioxide which are overwhelmingly favorable which are not taken into account. To me that's the main issue that the earth is actually growing greener. This has been actually measured from satellites the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests, it's increasing all kinds of growth in the biological world and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate." ~Freeman Dyson, Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.

[@skyfeelan]

me watching from Indonesia, a country left behind the developed countries due to centuries of european colonization, forced to use fossil fuel and doing deforestation just to catch up: Interesting

[@X9523-z3v]

Every video I see from over there looks like you guys don't know what a trash can or landfill is. Unless all the pictures are of landfills, then that makes sense

[@prit04]

More people need to see these videos

[@seanacameron8940]

It was first for survival. Then it became GREED. If I may state a well known phrase " A Rich man has as much of a chance of getting into heaven as a camel getting through the eye of a needle" I thank God for those words of wisdom. Sadly, others haven't and now our planet is dying. Thank you so very much for such an honest and open site of what has happened to our once beautiful Earth . You are magnificent.

[@chrismuratore4451]

Its interesting to think it might be the case that we are subconsciously destroying the world simply to prove to ourselves that we can.

[@Jozeemoss]

But Al Gore, friend of earth, sworn enemy of mankind and big cheif of the Gaia worshippers prophesied that the North and South pole would be melted by now. O well,,, may we genocide ourselves starting with poor, deniers and unborn to start. Hopefully that will be enough to please the Gods.

[@jeromethibodeau4378]

In the 80ies, I would pray for todays climate catastrophies..., thank you Lord, thank you...

[@letransformateur6477]

Beautifully made and explained!

[@ariadgaia5932]

This is simply heartbreaking....... When will people stop acting like cancer?

[@abody499]

When all the bad cells have undergone apoptosis.

[@ariadgaia5932]

Thank you for the ending~ It gives me hope.

[@b43xoit]

Proper organization is necessary.

[@abody499]

@@b43xoit burning all flags is necessary

[@abody499]

@@b43xoit the problem is the nation state system

[@MrGeorge514131]

How vile a creature the human can be, more akin to cancer than anything else……..

[@jjoohhhnn]

Growth for the sake of growth is the mentality of a cancer cell.

[@deepashtray5605]

Colonial ideology is alive and thriving; it is still the foundation of our economic system.

[@isaachunt5799]

the best video i have seen on this subject. must have taken a lot of work. superb work. subscribed

[@koro7591]

I hope this video goes out there!! It was very insightful. Thankyou.

[@__Wanderer]

I think tackling the total population of humans on the planet would be a good start. Massive overpopulation in many regions is also unsustainable. Breeding like rabbits, or those elk has made the entire world an Easter island where we humans are destroying everything.

[@pyjonyr5029]

The global north countries already have below replacement birth rates (1.5 children per woman in EU), but since you are comparing people to rabbits, I take it you are talking about brown people. Well fear not, demographic trends have been reversing for a long time now, with the global population expected to peak around 9 billion. Of course that is still a lot, but talking about population obscures the fact that climate change is not caused by everyone equally, not even close. Those living in the global north have a disproportionate effect on the environment just from their lifestyles, and, more importantly, the richest of us (both from the global north and the global south) have far more power in perpetuating the machinery that is responsible for this crisis.

[@__Wanderer]

@@pyjonyr5029 No I talk of humankind as a whole, the entire population... we have well exceeded carrying capacity on all continents that is clear. Ecosystems are collapsing and environments have been destroyed. Climate change will wipe out mankind indeed. You are also correct naturally and so this is not a race issue as you state. The west has indeed far exceeded its limits that is for sure due to exploitation and consumption habits. It is clear that even these western populations have exceeded their limits. However trying to use the suggestion of racism to negate that population size is not an issue is disingenuous. Because it is an issue. If countries can't even sustain themselves, have 140 million suffering from famine/hunger *in Africa* (according to the red cross) and basic facilities perhaps the focus should lie on securing a better future for a smaller population. There is a reason 10s of millions want to leave the continent. And with climate change the continent will turn into an even harsher environment. Talking about birth control and access to contraceptives shouldn't be a race issue, it is just common sense.

[@maym8849]

I mean Taylor swift alone produces more pollution than billions of poor people living with limited resources especially in the global south. Its a simple misallocation of resources

[@draunt7]

As an indigenous person, this was a hard vid to watch.

[@johannageisel5390]

As a non-indigenous person it was too. :( My heart breaks for what we have lost as a global society, including the traditional knowledge of various peoples around the world. I've long been interested in old crafts, starting with fiber crafts but not ending there. I've taken up gardening to grow food and also to provide food for insects and space for birds and small mammals (hedgehog, mice, hare). I learn about plants that were traditionally part of our landscape and try to give them space in my garden. We could live differently than this industrialized hellhole demands. And we don't even have to turn all the way back to the stone age. But we can learn from the people who lived on our land before us and incorporate their knowledge into our way of life today.

[@draunt7]

@@johannageisel5390 Yeah... I'm more so referring to the genocide of my family, the displacement from our land through deportations and death walks, and the loss of the cultivated land we had stewarded. I'm not referring to going backwards technologically. I'm referring to raising our conscious to recognize the responsible use of our technological capacities for the proper purpose of humanity. We're supposed to be the physical manifestations of the developing consciousness of the planet, but people have suppressed that in pursuit of power and greed.

[@johannageisel5390]

@@draunt7 I'm sorry, I should have been clearer: When I said "my heart breaks for what we've lost" I was thinking first and foremost of all the lives that have been lost and all the cultural goods those people had built and created (including the cultivated land). And then I was thinking of the knowledge they had. And then I trailed off and just generally talked about my approach to things. I am very sad that this was done to your family. And I fully agree with the rest of what you said.

[@grrlpurpleable]

We, as a species, do not deserve this beautiful world.

[@tendingourgarden]

Great video topic, and I subscribed immediately when you called North America Turtle Island. Thank you for recognizing Indigenous people.

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

Warming is not a killer, but global cooling is. It would only take a few years of global crop failures from cold weather to put populations at serious risk. Both the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets are thickening: Leave anything on the ice, and it gets buried pretty fast (for example: the US South Pole Base was recently reconstructed because the old base was being crushed by snow and ice, and WWII planes lost on Greenland’s southeast coast, were covered by 264 feet of ice in 50

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

"Warming is not a killer, but global cooling is." Rapid global warming such as we have set in motion, if sustained too long, will definitely causes mass extinctions of life because species and ecosystems just can't adapt rapidly enough. Massive crop failures and livestocks deaths and ecosystems collapse are all in the trajectory between now and 2100 because we are currently warming the planet 18x faster than it usually warms when coming out of an ice age.

[@Weiner-Worm]

Thank you for referring to Turtle Island by it's true name first. I am an (non-native) American, and it's important to remember the cultures and peoples who were here first.

[@markus_selloi]

Regenerative agriculture is the key to solve this problem! With a regenerative system we can turn this around.

[@marcriba7581]

Specific solutions have been on the table for decades. The problem isn't the lackk of solutions but the requirement of profit.

[@KarlSnarks]

Would you be interested in doing a video on social-ecology (and the way Murray Bookchin considered our relationship to the environment)? From what I've seen he has some interesting ideas and I'd love your take on it. It fits well with the topic of our economy treating nature in such an extractivist way.

[@leeluuleibling1111]

I don't think I should watch this. Already giving up hope on EVERYTHING

[@anotherthez7598]

What took me so long to get to know you...? I'm glad I found you, such great work! Cheers.

[@georgethompson1460]

"the natural world flourished under the indigenous peoples" Mammoths and ice age megafauna: "Are we a joke to you?"

[@johannageisel5390]

He adressed that.

[@kyzantia8884]

@@johannageisel5390 No he didnt, he just waved it away

[@danjdavison]

It would be interesting to see a video about which of the most economically important species are under threat of climate change.

[@lrimmf]

Bees?

[@rudra62]

All of them!

[@theprecipiceofreason]

We leave the world in the hands of a more worthy successor? hopefully, it's dogs - likely, it's cockroaches.

[@theprecipiceofreason]

@@terfsdontdeservebasicright8136 You are why the right is successful at media. You're lashing out at a neutral statement and injecting it with conclusions that you don't have a basis for so that you can blame someone else for problems you don't actually do anything about.

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

No successor can fill a niche that does not exist. It is more likely to have nothing like us after us.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@@theprecipiceofreason You didn't make a neutral statement. You made a hateful one. Don't pretend otherwise. You were saying or sadistically hoping that humans become extinct. Then you wonder why people like nothinglessthanutopia mocked you. I'm not saying I'm for mocking cause I'm not. You said nothinglessthanutopia was blaming others and not doing anything about problems, but you were doing that by vilifying all humans and wanting them extinct; and wanting humans to be extinct because you don't want to do anything to help problems. You said nothinglessthanutopia help conservatives, but many conservatives actually vilify environmentalists because of comments like yours wanting human extinct and hating everyone. That's why they say environmentalists are hateful, anti-human, and extreme. The El Paso Walmart shooter shot people for the environment.

[@annecronin8339]

​@@KozelPraiseGOELRO💯❗️

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

@@annecronin8339 No

[@shaunhall960]

I like how your channel is focused on finding solutions to our problems.

[@9squares]

You don't seem to appreciate the gravity of the circumstances. "What gives me hope...", "In 100 years..." deceive your failure to understand the momentum and the exponential nature of the situation. We likely blew past 1.5°C and maybe even 2.0°C already. Our remaining years are measured in the single digits and there is no hope of mitigation at this point.

[@frischifrisch6860]

Shared the video, will watch the vegan thing on nebula ... Ehrlich gesagt, schaue ich solche Videos heute mit der selben Abscheu, wie ich vor 15 oder 20 Jahren Kriegsdramen und Horrorfilme angesehen hab, als Form von Entertainment. Will sagen ich bin mehr Problem als Lösung. Ich hoffe, du trägst mit deinen Videos dennoch zu einer positiven Veränderung bei, ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg 👍👍

[@LeZylox]

Hä ist der deutsch oder wieso schreibst du deutsch? Mir geht es btw auch so, kann Krigsdramen und Horrorfilme auch nicht schauen

[@undertow2142]

If you took 10% from the top 10% and gave it to the bottom 60% you’d completely change the world.

[@susim4503]

Capitalism doesn't just alienate us from our environment, but from each other as well. We need to rebuild our communities and societies; networks that support each other. The Left's argumentative nature is a feature, not a bug. It allows us to add our arguments for consideration. It should not be about winning or loosing, but reaching some sort of consensus. Nor is there going to be one way of doing things. We need to be open to that.

[@Th3EnterNal]

How di private property alienate you ? You must be living in a fantasy.

[@susim4503]

@@Th3EnterNal What do you mean by private property and why is it relevant here?

[@Th3EnterNal]

@@susim4503 Capitalism = private property + free markets.

[@susim4503]

@@Th3EnterNal Capitalism = private ownership of the means of production, reliant on increasing growth. It inevitably ends in monopolies, alienating the overwhelming majority of people living under the system. I would rather see the workers owning the means of their own production. Capitalism is not required for private property or markets.

[@Th3EnterNal]

@@susim4503 Private ownership of MOP never needs increasing growth... you must never have looked at reality.

[@ronaldwong6092]

Was the dodo found on the island alive in the year 2015 ?.

[@isseirien]

no , it was a fake story

[@crisismanagement]

I've been following Guy McPherson since 2014 while writing 'a thesis' you might say, on guidance. Since the age of fossil fuels, the guidance has been growth and it has difficult to escape from. Escape has been possible and evident.

[@Skoda130]

Industrial civilization is, and can never be, sustainable. That, I think, is the elephant in the room. A given that is masked by ideological debates aboyt capitalism. But in essence, industrialized societies will have pretty similar metabolism, regardless of the doctrine that is its passenger.

[@antistaticandi]

This was a reality check. I work in an Earth science department and I hear/talk about this all the time. Good to be reminded that this isn't common knowledge. And yes, that is what has always bothered me about ecosystem services.

[@basbekjenl]

If only we could be less greedy, be satisfied with less, be smarter and appreciate the things we have. TLDR: greed bad.

[@chihirostargazer6573]

Some of us do not seek excessive material wealth or need to always chase "success", always trying to fill some insatiable emotional void...we only desire enough to have peaceful and secure lives, and value connection with community and nature above material possessions.

[@basbekjenl]

@@chihirostargazer6573 I agree, I don't own a car I am lucky enough to be able to live by bike alone. I love meat but I treat it like a treat something I appreciate for being able to enjoy. I don't go on vacation and usually keep my trips inside of the country. I wish this was more the norm than the exception, my dad has a big house and a car for fun, my mom has a big house to herself. They don't think of themselves as rich or greedy but their standard of living is quite comfortable. It makes me both happy and sad

[@annecronin8339]

By using only what we need and replenishing what we take as insurance for future need. Native indigenous humans understood this. Balance. Moderation and BALANCE.

[@andy9735]

Another great and informative video.

[@dentonfender6492]

As George Carlin, comedian, stated in a comedy gig, "save the planet (he scoffs)--- the planet has gone through much worse than what we are doing to it--- the planet is fine, the people are fu*Ked--- the planet is going to shake us off like a bad case of fleas---- pack your bags folks, we are going away"!