Are Slot's Liverpool serious title contenders?

[@yerrie1908]

pre season UK media: Arne needs signings. Slot: No i don't, enough quality in the team 10 games later, UK media: Arne inherited a great team

[@Auriflamme]

In fairness, lots of Liverpool supporters were having a fit on social media all summer over Liverpool's lack of signings. By contrast most of the media were far more even-handed about Liverpool's chances than the fans. Obviously click-bait merchants and kids on social media will say anything to try and attract attention.

[@tkjp999]

Liverpool fans kind of lost the plot when the Zubimendi deal fell through, forgetting that the back up 6 Endo just a few months before was the standout midfielder against City. The hysteria was laughable

[@punchgod]

@@tkjp999as an lfc fan, the fanbase is honestly quite embarrassing sometimes. Some of the worst recency bias of any club. If salah doesn’t score, even if he gets an assist, they’ll say he’s washed and we need to sell him. It’s insane.

[@janniknielsen9292]

@@Auriflamme But you are also talking about social media thus likely Twatter, which is populated by people that just want signings for the sake of it, and because the other teams with completely different needs were making signings left right and centre. And you also admit this by the end. You are creating a contrast that isn't real. On neither side. No media outlet thought LFC were going to compete, and less so with no to one signings, and they have come to this realisation until this narrative changes yet again, most likely with injuries. Fact of the matter is, that the squad was already very good, and it was pretty smart to not disrupt that too much, as the squad had 4 new midfield signings last season, all the while players like Quansah and Bradley made their entrance as well as building on Jones and Elliott. All of which would to some extent have their pathway blocked if there were new signings.

[@janniknielsen9292]

@@tkjp999 That is very true, but you also need to factor in that this was the only signing we had directly identified, and Hughes messed it up, when he didn't immediately use the buy-out clause, but fiddled with it for 3-4 weeks giving Real Sociedad time to persuade Zubimendi to stay. Personally I would and stated pre-season that i would be fine with no signings, but when we had identified Zubimendi, it was a slap in the face, when we didn't land him, and even caused our keepers problems by getting a 4th keeper, when Kelleher already deserved his spot after Alisson.

[@Leowake97]

I think Arne Slot is marvellous but don’t see us winning the league first season, definitely look forward to the bigger games to see how we do though but I imagine Man City take it home again

[@janniknielsen9292]

City are becoming weaker and weaker and both Arsenal and LFC are getting stronger and stronger. the thing keeping City afloat is low number of injuries and PGMOL.

[@paulcoffield2102]

Next 4 weeks after the international break will tell us a lot when they've got difficult fixture after difficult fixture coming.

[@86Brasco]

Don't Liverpool thrive on big fixtures, though ?

[@nostradamus986]

​@86Brasco Liverpool will only draw to arsenal but win the remaining 4 fixtures

[@liverbot4854]

@@86Brasco I agree, but if the players play like they did against Forest at home, consistently misplacing simple passes, top sides will punish us more often.

[@docjaramillo]

@@nostradamus986 naw … Arsenal 2 Liverpool 1 … the gunners midfield is going to eat their lunch

[@DarthVader-j2i]

​@@docjaramillowhat's funny is that Arsenal are a team that still haven't won shit all

[@saturdaysequalsyouth]

Gravenberch has been unreal

[@janniknielsen9292]

The wheels came off last season when all the players that had been over a short period of time post New Year, getting injuries+missing for Asia/AFCON came back, meaning they were not match fit and thrown into a well oiled, yet fatigued squad, and that completely collided, as it didn't happen gradually, but all at once - both in and out. Neither Arsenal nor City suffered from injuries to their core players or in a very limited space and number. Meaning their rotations were more natural, so even if Klopp did a complete master class in using his squad to perfection, he was extremely unlucky to suffer. Then factor in that LFC also suffered from very controversial decisions by PGMOL, amongst which cost them games against Spurs, Arsenal and City to name the most prominent ones. When you factor in all these things, you can't be surprised that this squad is actually more than capable of not only standing toe to toe with the other two, but again compete on 4 fronts.

[@Blue_Pumpkin]

Liverpool quietly competed for the title last season. Everyone was focusing on Man City and Arsenal. This year is the same story. Liverpool are a fantastic team.

[@habatone]

I'd love to see them do. Last year they quietly competed, and rather loudly fell away towards the end. Let's hope for better this year. Although for slot to pull that off in his first yesr seems a tall order.

[@Blue_Pumpkin]

@@habatone It's always a tall order for winning a title. I only see three teams to have that kind of work ethic and attitude. Hopefully the no. increases. That said, I want Arsenal to win the title.

[@davidmurphy2388]

They didn't really though

[@ajw9533]

Thank you. It is such an obvious point, but for some reason, it needs to be made.

[@Harvstermysterinator]

@@davidmurphy2388 they led the league for a large part of the season, only to implode due to injuries, and the pressure of Klopp leaving, right at the end. Had they had as drama-free a season as arsenal did, they may well have won the whole thing

[@ynwa73]

10 games 9 wins ..6 clean sheets ...any team with those stats are not just in the title race they are favourites

[@samlasley798]

I’ll be satisfied with top four and a run to the semis in the FA cup or UCL. I’d love to see Arne do well in knockouts. Be a good measure of how we're gonna do in those comps in the future. This season the focus needs to be on the squad and developing a style of play everyone can contribute to

[@acerock013]

I've been loving this newlook Liverpool. It's so different but when it's on it's so pretty. WE are going to hit a rough patch or two this season. My hope is that we can finish top 4 and that we can get into the KO round for UCL. After a full campaign and when the dust has settled over who's staying and who's going, Slott will be able to identify the priorities and needs and i think we will find value in the market. I'm a hopeful dude, and i know that we are going to suffer and that's okay, the team needs to go through it to grow. One would have to be supremely arrogant to pick Liverpool to win the league this early on, so let's all take a breath and enjoy what we have and be grateful that we aren't dealing with dram you see at Chelsea or United. We are moving in the right direction. With speed. Love you guys.

[@jaymkz3225]

As a City fan, this comment is pure class. Completely reasonable, pragmatic, and full of great insight.

[@earlofgriefem]

That chandelier is making Ayo look like ODB

[@zalemdreams]

lmfao

[@OwenSindler]

He's royalty 🎉

[@TheTomster21]

Ohhh baby I like it rawwww

[@DavidChong]

the situation with Trent, Virgil, & Mo's contracts is somewhat understandable given the discontinuity of sporting directors is perhaps not entirely down to the club what with the sporting directors leaving of their own volition & the time it took to nail down Edwards' return.

[@anthonyashcroft1172]

Ayos a great host by the way

[@lukerobottom339]

Ayo looks like he has grown horns

[@allgonewrongful]

James Pearce doesn't even pretend to listen to what other people say.

[@rajenpatel3552]

Yeah he is annoying and has an annoying voice

[@tomwilko7841]

Hate his studied indifference to any other opinion

[@garyjohnnuznyi736]

Arne is cool , calm and collected , he's implementing his style and we have the players to switch , they seem fully on board with his ideas and trust in him , Yes a No6 is needed , however he puts his arm around Gravenberch and given him the confidence to perform , his man management is class and I fully believe in Arne and with a switched on fully fit Bajetic returning alongside Mac10 then ..🔥

[@Carvello20]

Gravenberch's shoulder drops are insane. he's developing into a young Patrick Veira

[@aleksanderthorset235]

Tbf even tho ppl say liverpool have less resources than city/arsenal i personally think our players is our biggest resource. Having arguably the nr1 keeper, right back, left back, centreback and right winger in the world means we should be able to win it all

[@aleksanderthorset235]

robertson might not be the best at the moment, but he is the top assisting defender of all time, if trent hasnt caught him yet

[@enkienki2360]

" even tho ppl say liverpool have less resources than /arsenal" Those people are idiots to even think Arsenal are ahead of liverpool in anyway

[@asparapee4213]

Problem isn't our starting 11. The problem is what happens when people get hurt.

[@vincentx2850]

@@asparapee4213 The same can be said for Arsenal, even Man City this season.

[@OtacBulldogs]

You are right, so its important we win something major with them this season. Do you think FSG will replace them sufficiently?

[@danieljose-tz2fj]

Liverpool haven’t started yet. They have many gears to go. If slot finds those gears they myt b unstoppable

[@deenuk125]

Easily yes Settled squad Top manager Anyone who doesn't think they'll at least challenge is delusional (or Arsenal fans/both)

[@Euclides287]

Literally every Arsenal fan sees Liverpool as a title challenger. Only United fans have been talking down your chances of winning the league.

[@Zero_Requiem]

​@@Euclides287 AFTV is not even taking Liverpool seriously

[@tomwilko7841]

Settled squad??? I know we've almost certainly got them for the full season but I wouldn't call the 3 best players running down their contracts a settled squad

[@lennoxrl]

Great assessment of Liverpool guys,keep it up,

[@martinkerrmusic]

Gravenberch is not lightweight. He's 6'3" and looking very solid. Klopp didn't fully trust him for whatever reason.

[@percytillman6030]

The last time they won the Prem, Allison was out about a month with Adrian between the sticks, right? Good omen?

[@rinkadink66]

all 3 of the pundits are interesting.. cheers 🍻

[@docjaramillo]

In my experience as a player in the US the best coaches I played for were able to see little tiny parts of an individual’s game that needed changing but focused most on maximizing an individual’s strengths. It’s the coaches who you sense believe you can be better because they see your potential and believe in the players ability to achieve that potential. The tough coaches who seemed like they enjoyed making us run for the sake of “fitness” or discipline never made me any better on a game day

[@docjaramillo]

Love your podcast, Ayo. GOYG

[@sahajshetty1844]

As a United fan I do envy the smooth transition Liverpool have had since Klopp departed, I would not wish the anarchy that followed at our club since Sir Alex Ferguson departed, on any other club or their fan bases.

[@-VForValhalla-]

As an Arsenal fan I wish it on Gravechester everyday. Womanchester fans wished it on us for decades. So yeah, long may Baldchester's banter era continue 🤡

[@_7.8.6]

@@-VForValhalla-win something then talk. Every dog has its day

[@Sidwhite-yb5cv]

@@-VForValhalla- Bit brutal

[@I_am_nobody999]

As a Liverpool fan I just wanted to say thank you for your sentiment and I'd like to respond by saying how incredibly happy I am that United are floundering. Long may it continue.

[@sahajshetty1844]

@@I_am_nobody999 I think there can always be healthy respect in competition, however things have moved beyond football now, In trying to emulate the success of Liverpool in the 70s and 80s and United in the Premier league era, the monsters we have unleashed in the forms of state ownership has destroyed the very competitive spirit in it, it feels so manufactured nowadays.

[@kwabenaboateng8660]

The closing remarks there is quite funny to me. "...a bumpy run after the international break..."? I don't see it that way. It's going to be a very interesting run that Liverpool fans will enjoy a lot. If you doubt me, check Arne Slots statistics against top sides in the eredivise and come back for a chat. He's the master of winning big games even with below average players against top sides. So with the materials he has at his disposal at Liverpool, I think it's going to be easy-peezy for him. We saw a glimpse of that in pre-season against Arsenal where he beat Arteta with Van den berg and quansah in defence (for context, Arsenal had more first team players starting that game than Liverpool did and it wasn't like Arteta didn't want the win, he just faced a superor game plan). Can't wait for those exciting run of games to be honest.

[@hm470]

Oli Kay's voice is so soothing!

[@b8nnytez]

I'd have been happy with 5th in his first year, but the start we've had is raising that in my head to top 3-4 now. Get to December still top with a few point lead and I'll raise that further in my head. lol

[@me24469]

No doubt great start to the season. Slot is using the players well. But we have keep it grounded. And having all said, I still think Liverpool still required 1-2 defensive signing. Be it central def or def mid. Konate is also very injury prone. We may not be giving alot of big chances away but past few games we have giving away alot of shots at goal. Gravenberch may be Frankie-esque but he is no Rodri or Kante. Let's see what Liverpool can do against the really giant boys with Slot.

[@kwykwyk8447]

The thing with a wage budget is that the more you pay Salah and VVD, the less you can afford to buy a Zubimendi or other new transfers

[@yerrie1908]

Heavy metal Klopp is kick and rush 2.0, Arne is total football 3.0 and it will get a lot better, he just started

[@boomshanka4667]

Way, way to soon to discuss any title contenders. League has only just begun.

[@Zero_Requiem]

Delusional Man U fans think that way too 😂

[@L0rdsmokey]

We will know a lot more after these next ten fixtures… we either had an easy run of fixtures to begin the season which aided in our quick start or we are the real deal

[@ih5xx3xx9p]

It’ll be more interesting to see him rebuild without Salah, VVD, TAA and Alisson next season. That’ll be his true test, and will really show his mettle removing everything Klopp has done so far. From listening to him speak, his demeanor, calm and analytical nature, he’s probably the best guy for that job.

[@saturdaysequalsyouth]

I bet they all stay. Something is brewing here.

[@cyn1clcynide]

​@@saturdaysequalsyouth dunno about Alisson. Mamardashvilli arrives next year, and while the prospect for two top keepers fighting for a spot is a wonderful conundrum, Alisson is very likely to leave

[@86Brasco]

​@@cyn1clcynideAlison was spoken to about this signing. Alison has said he's very happy at Liverpool.

[@86Brasco]

Who says they are going? Most likely all 3 will re sign

[@ih5xx3xx9p]

If you think emotionally, they should all sign an extension. But by that same reasoning, why haven’t they already? Negotiations typically start with 2-3 years to go, like with Ibra and Jarrell. If it has run down to the last 7-8 months before expiration, and 2 months before the start of the pre-contract window, emotions aside, there’s more possibility of leaving than staying. Love for Liverpool aside, riding it so close to January, if these players don’t wait and test the waters, it is financially stupid, which the agents are not. I’m just saying, taper the expectations a bit, otherwise it’ll be like the Zubimendi transfer with the belief that he was most likely going to sign for Liverpool.

[@OtacBulldogs]

Well, the season really begins after the international break.

[@davidkotze4140]

Mature discussion gentlemen ....thanks! !! YNWA 😊

[@omoknows4810]

Listening to James is horrible and I’m a Liverpool fan

[@blankn1612]

If we lose Trent to Real then can we all just officially blame FSG? Or will Redmen TV or Laurence McKenna tell us to be quiet. This panel just confirmed what we’ve been saying.

[@lennoxrl]

Question? What makes those other teams title contenders, in front of us,i think we will be fine,I know it's silly to think that we can win the league every season,but I am lfc forever,I don't have or want to back another team I am not a ship jumper,I have been supporting this team forever,so there you go,I believe we win win the epl this season...

[@Supersyncopation]

Yes

[@davidkotze4140]

Slot seems to me to be the signing of the season for Liverpool ! YNWA 😊🙏

[@lfcspectre4335]

Top LAD Proper Slotter 💪😉👍

[@mayeezy254]

I think they are the third best team in the league, have some mistakes in them but if the best slip up you can gain from that

[@NatalieLawrence]

I understand Oli Kay’s point about extending on older players, however VVD and Salah are worth a lot of money. It’s completely irresponsible to let £100m+ walk out the door for free. They couldn’t get one new player in, but they’re going to spend new money on replacing all three? It’s two years in a row that players have turned Liverpool down. At least if they extend, they can get money from transfer fees. Now it appears they have started extending contracts, starting with Quansah, I can only hope by January, Liverpool will extend on all three.

[@Carvello20]

trent is going to have an very uncomfortable last 5 months of the season when he joins madrid on a bosman in jan. he recently said he had 'an elite mentality'. he proved once and for all just how disgustingly arrogant he is. he's also deluded if he thinks he's a central mid. I love the way Slot has told him to stay in his RB position. enough of indulging his delusions.

[@DiReal_Donclassy]

Do you want to know why other top teams aren't Liverpool's problem?? Because it's the same Liverpool players that decimated City at Anfield with Rodri and KDB on the field. Remember they're even better than last season.

[@charleskudakwashe6458]

Of course LFC can contend. As long as we keep getting results like we r now & Slot catches lightning in a bottle with his managerial genius at all the right times then yes we can do it. The business end of season in this League is nothing Arne has ever experienced.! Biggest of all will always be injuries, bcz I i dont think we can afford not to have our main guys for too long. Not into March April.

[@eleanorzissou]

I don‘t think Hughes should be pitied for the chance to manage these contracts. It‘s a terrific job.

[@OtacBulldogs]

Well, he came with rave reviews. Now let's see what his made of.

[@garyjohnnuznyi736]

Us , City , Arsenal , ( the usual TBF) but with Chelsea looking like they're turning up every week and Villa really progressing then it's more open title wise imo , im not saying Villa or Chelsea will win league but they're deffo gonna be there or there abouts , to get a Newly promoted team on the opening day of the season (away) UTD away , Milan away is a decent test for any new manager ....and he's passed it YNWA

[@milanserdar1056]

😮😮😮WTF, what input inside info, top notch... Never herd nothing similar anywhere... What a SPAM

[@davidkotze4140]

Top 4 looking possible ...anything more will be a bonus !! YNWA 😊

[@davidkotze4140]

Trent should sign a deal with Liverpool and if Real Madrid prepared to pay Liverpool a large sum of money to release him ....that's a fair compromise....and Trent will be remembered as a Liverpool legend ! ...if he holds out and leaves on a free ...that will be a traitor move and Trent will have to balance that out on his concience...which i believe he has !! YNWA 😊

[@TerribleEnglish]

Well, they're top of the league and with the same exact squad were top of the league for a kot if last season, so.. obviously yes!

[@ajthapa100]

Pearce acting like assistant sporting director of Liverpool.

[@dannraihan5671]

Has a dutchman ever won the Premier league? If not then its more bad news for ten Hag with Slot and his team behaving the way they are😖 #stilltenhagin

[@nawles1]

Let see how they do vs arsenal, Chelsea, citeh,...

[@prabalhazarika2805]

Chelsea will be battered at Anfield.

[@nawles1]

@@prabalhazarika2805 I hope so!

[@davidkotze4140]

If we manage to squeak thru this season without injuries and blind refereeing .....we could do very well !!YNWA 😊

[@IggyGoesPop666]

Moyes totally destroyed Man Utd because he's not an elite manager or even a bang average one as he's a Championship one at the most

[@ih5xx3xx9p]

This is another “Is Palmer better than Messi?” podcast episode? We love to overreact, don’t we?! Let him be. We’ll know after some achievements. If not for PL and CL titles, Klopp would garner the same attention as an Avram Grant. Give Slot some breathing room.

[@DirtySanchez658]

Big pity for Spurs having him turn them down.

[@I_am_nobody999]

Shows how sensible he is. Spurs are rubbish.

[@paulhooley5687]

James mate... sort yourself out on these, you look rude and arrogant when anyone else is talking, or you're buying your car insurance or something.. At least show SOME interest 🙄

[@allgonewrongful]

I know, its just lacking basic manners, it comes across as really rude. David Ornstein does exactly the same thing. I'll get censored so i wont swear, but it makes them both look like total onanists.

[@Charlie_Ses]

Odd how so much time is spent discussing contracts.

[@enkienki2360]

You are all assuming based off of biases There's a culture and way of doing things in liverpool - this isn't Utd manager merry go around drop off's down into mid table

[@OwenSindler]

I didn't pick up on a bias. Please explain.

[@Kdigitydoggydogg]

this guy looks like russell crowe

[@peterlangbridge4628]

Ayo? Looks nothing like him.

[@MadLFC]

Opinions count for shit. People pay too much attention to them. Let's just wait and see if we can compete with City and Arsenal in the long run and let the naysayers do what they always do.

[@mr.steinhaus6014]

I’m a LFC fan. Admittedly, NOT YET. Come back after Xmas, let’s see where the dust settles, then ask.

[@davidkotze4140]

Then you obviously not a real fan

[@saturdaysequalsyouth]

They beat United and Milan away

[@Mil-w6d]

Even beating newly promoted Ipswich Town away on the first day and now Crystal Palace - these are not easy matches. Also impressive is 5 clean sheets and only 2 EPL goals conceded after 7 matches.

[@valkyrst620]

Answer: No.

[@kandekore]

No. They’re not

[@00dude3]

This is like saying Spurs were title contenders last season, both times they have had incredibly easy run of fixtures.

[@asparapee4213]

No. We are not title contenders. Our first 11 is title worthy, but we didn't sign any depth for our double pivot or out CB. The drop off between Gravy/Maca to Cujo and Endo is pretty steep. Same with losing VVD to injury and having Quansah replace him.

[@Carvello20]

his mediocre playing career = genius coach.

[@aakarmamtora3470]

No. Just city and arsenal

[@Adam-l2g]

safely third place

[@Zero_Requiem]

Potential winner

[@Adam-l2g]

@@Zero_Requiem Atletico Madrid in England

[@Zero_Requiem]

@@Adam-l2g strange when they have the 2nd best squad

[@Adam-l2g]

@@Zero_Requiem third

[@Zero_Requiem]

@@Adam-l2g who's second?

[@jitendra7499]

lol only few matches that to they played well in 2/3 matches and rest all are nervy ones. Lets see will they finish top 4 or not, they just 1 or 2 injuries away from 5/6 finish. After International break #SackSlot will start trending.

[@neilfitzsimmons1800]

You're obviously a LFC hater. Idiot.

[@I_am_nobody999]

lmao okay bitter.

[@kayo1019]

No 👍 Trust me. We have too many contractual discussions going on and causing us major problems.

[@jeroenschoot-l5h]

Can you specify? Liverpool is a professional organisation and the players have the correspondiing attitude and comitmernt as well. Slot is not a man who gets nervous about contractual discuissions.

[@kayo1019]

@@jeroenschoot-l5h I can yes, but your response does not warrant a worthy reply.

[@jeroenschoot-l5h]

@@kayo1019 That's a pity. I am really interested in a substantiation of your statement.

[@kayo1019]

@@jeroenschoot-l5h see, I don’t think you are ; I think your just being a smart arse, and I’m not often wrong.

[@ericthekop9624]

Hii