Are SUMMIT TRACTORS GARBAGE?

[@hhamilton1970]

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[@rodgerneeb301]

Yes, federal law requires that they be shipped without any fluids OR if they do, the truck driver would need a Haz-Mat endorsement on his CDL to deliver tractors. The government feels it job is to jerk everybody around.

[@lynnshomestead7545Johnlynn]

Pray would be one !

[@Noah_E]

It's a Solis H24 (also made by ITL) styled and optioned to Summit's specs. Both are copies of the Mahindra Max 25XL, and all three use the same Mitsubishi engine and other major components. Options and styling differentiate them. Summit themselves has acknowledged that there are 18 SCUT brands, but only 8 manufacturers behind them. Like back in the day when Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury all shared the same underpinnings from the same suppliers, factories, etc

[@hhamilton1970]

Good info.

[@jimmcknight3021]

Both the Solis and Summit are heavy for their size, and ITL is one of the largest tractor makers in the world. I think that they have the largest tractor plant in the World in India and it looked very modern. I just wonder on both brands is: parts availability and service under Warranty and beyond By the way, Summit specs their model from Solis with a special suspension seat, self leveling loader and Rim Guard filled rear tires.

[@andrewanderson1436]

Never seen an emax Mahindra that big and most of them had a mix of yanmar and Mitsubishi engines. Most of them are smaller thanthe max series. I had a Mahindra max24 that was made by Mitsubishi AG and is not the same as this summit tractor. That summit tx25 is way bigger. The engine could possibly be the same as what my max24 was tho.

[@Noah_E]

@@andrewanderson1436 i meant 25XL. Mahindra uses similar names for too many models and I was going from memory.

[@andrewanderson1436]

@@Noah_E ok gotcha

[@SilverAlert1]

I just looked one over at a local TS in Battle Creek, Mi. I noticed a line hanging down super close to the rear tire. I chatted with summit over that weekend with some other questions. Yes, they actually messaged me back on a weekend. The following Monday I sent a photo of that line hanging down. They said they would show their service department. 30 min later they replied it wasn’t right and asked for the location of this tractor. I provided them with the information and they said they would send a service tech out. I stopped back in Wednesday to look at it again. Boy was I surprised to see that line was tucked up and out of the way. They had the issue resolved in less than 48 hours. Pretty impressive. Leaning hard on picking one of these up.

[@hhamilton1970]

I think they'll do fine, they just have to have the tractor community have a paradigm shift about buying a tractor from a big box store versus a dealer. It's an uphill climb, but if they hang on and deliver a good product with good customer service, they'll eventually do good.

[@thaliafoster2172]

My husband and I have actually been debating on the same tractor at the Battle Creek TSC. The guy at the store also mentioned how they were out so fast to get it fixed too.

[@georgiafatboymowingandtrac7293]

I think the reason that there is no hydraulic fluid is the tractor is shipped dry. The dealer is supposed to “Prep” the tractor including fluids. Home Depot is infamous for not prepping equipment they sell. Small things like taking off protective film is a clue. Summit has been looking for dealers across the country from what I gather from watching various videos.

[@hhamilton1970]

Gotcha

[@lesstech74]

Easy way to keep someone from driving away or loading up without paying

[@brianbarclay4316]

If there is no hydraulic oil how did the bucket get in the dump position, can’t believe they are shipped with the cylinders extended.

[@todd5082]

I was looking at a riding mower at Lowe’s and yep same thing there…..no oil. It looked like it had been driven too.

[@corydriver7634]

@@brianbarclay4316it may have been shipped separately from the loader.

[@jimc9581]

What's frustrating is the big brands won't put those options on, like mirrors and remotes.

[@nickthomas8400]

run one for 3 yrs now - no problembs - solid engineering well pleased and saved loads compared to a JD or kubota we looked at

[@hhamilton1970]

nice!

[@hotwheelmanraven2289]

For one thing before you buy it you don’t start ripping the shifters apart I own a summit tractor and I can tell you what I bought the first one in Connecticut from Runnings I’ve been driving it now for two days and I’ve been working this thing and it is an amazing tractor I am very pleased for the price I paid well built by veterans and I love it

[@hhamilton1970]

Good to hear👍👍

[@roynajecki1100]

I looked at the tractor at the Putnam Runnings two weeks ago (I'm a few miles across the state line in RI). Did you negotiate on the price? Also, I don't understand you on the "start ripping the shifters apart" comment.

[@rirebel6029]

The small tractors like that are so simple I can't understand the price of the big brands if someone comes up with a decent tractor like that at a good price they will sell like hotcakes ...my grandpa always talked about when kubota first came around they couldn't give them away to the farmers now look at the price and reputation of kubota !

[@hhamilton1970]

I hear ya

[@rirebel6029]

Thats a 2 range hydro no gears , it's not a self leveling loader you use that guide stick attached to the bucket to find level . In my area there are a lot of " badboy" little tractors like that all the sudden

[@rickwest2366]

over all the tractor looks good, but the rear axes look small or is that just me.

[@alpine9996]

I was thinking the same thing

[@MrTruckerf]

@@alpine9996 Ditto

[@slip0n0fall]

Half of dealers cant even get prep right, cant imagine an 18yo working at HD is going to top the hydros off.

[@kennolte5801]

I looked at one at a farm store in Texas recently. The standard features make it really attractive. I thought the build quality was as good as the big name brands but at a lower price point. I'm cautious about the network for parts and service but otherwise, I really like the looks of it for a compact tractor. I think every brand is subject to failures but the method for remedy should be considered. I'm holding off for now but seriously considering one.

[@hhamilton1970]

Right on

[@archiedavis1003]

Fixin' 2 take the leap....will let you know in a short. Not a big operation... mower, box blade and a bale pin will allow ths octagenarean to keep scrambling a few more years...concerns about the ride...old age and bad backs tend to raise eyebrows. Will check back with yall...

[@steliandone4078]

I have a very bad experience with Atwood store manager and Atwood corporate office. They are not good at handling customer service. I mean they failed me twice. I wish you all the luck.

[@matthewpawley5330]

I bought a Solis H24. Made by the same people, the Summit is one more horse power, and has a few more extras. But they look identical all but the color and mine was $2000 less. Our HD now sales the Summit as well. I bought my Solis from a lawn equipment dealer that does service on site local to me. I'd probably be a little hesitant to buy one from HD. I like the fact that just up the road, I can get it serviced if needed. I love the tractor so far. I've really only got two complaints. The 3 point lift is limited for height capabilities. I can use a 5 ft bush hog, but can't lift it very high. I tried to use a rock rake recently and it wont lift high enough to get it off the ground. My potato plow barley clears the ground as well, and hits tge ground during travel. I've got a few ideas to possibly remedy the situation. The other thing is that sometimes the front bucket aggressively slams down instead of going down smoothly. It usually only does it a few times then clears up. Other than these few things, to be a small tractor, it's a work horse and has done everything I've thrown at it.

[@hhamilton1970]

Thanks for the comment. Good to hear from people who actually own tractors like these

[@ScottHD]

Lot of great additions on it for the money. Front remote, rear remote, mid PTO. Usually you have to pay extra for those on the green and orange tractors!

[@Tommy.461]

What can you use the mid pto on? There is no belly mower.

[@robertmichael6943]

ITL manufacturers for Summit and Solis is the USA brand for ITL. The engine is the S3L2 Mitsubishi engine used for at least 20 years in compact tractors and pretty bullet proof. The Solis has Interstate battery, Bosch electronics, Donaldson filtration, KYB hydrostat and more top of the line components. As for parts, Carswell OEI is the parts support for Solis. Carswell is very well regarded and been in parts since about 1948. Parts are readily available. The dealer network is growing for Solis and Summit is going boxstore online business model. Solis is bringing larger models to market. Yanmar is also a staker holder in ITL and are involved in the quality control.

[@franksinapi2121]

I would never even think of buying a tractor from Home Depot. Where would you take it for service or get parts? Go to a dealership and build a relationship with them.

[@KPVFarmer]

That oil filter is hanging pretty low on below the right floorboard there, that’d ruin your day bumping that. Thanks for the walk around on that tractor. Good video 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸

[@hhamilton1970]

Thank you

[@lennyross2813]

Summit is supposed to be coming out with a larger tractor soon. 35 hp I believe. I would be interested in seeing how optioned out it comes from the factory.

[@hhamilton1970]

Me too

[@daveschmidt5713]

Like to see one with a cab. Are they coming to northern Indiana soon?

[@davidmorris7696]

Manufactured by ITL out of India, 3rd largest tractor producer there. Been around since 1960, and trying to break into the US market. Looks decent and has quite a few features for the price.

[@hotwheelmanraven2289]

I like my tires the tires do not tear up my grass I can run this thing all day and it hasn’t even moved on with your grade on fuel there is no emissions so you don’t have to worry about putting dents in it it’s all around a beautiful tractor and they are going to make a bigger one in the future and you can get the parts from Summit you can get attachments and every other thing we need so far I’m very highly impressed

[@hhamilton1970]

Good to hear 👍👍 thanks for leaving the comment.

[@coltons4436]

I’ve owned one for about a month and I can’t complain ! It’s done everything I’ve asked of it so far without skipping a beat

[@montybolinger6383]

IT has 2 ranges on the aux transmission and hydrostat on the main. IT does not have gears otherwise. Has front hitch, not drawbar. Seems at this time a little pricey. A lot of times the hydraulic oil need to be topped off after awhile as the air has to be purged from all the cylinders and valves. Service after the sale buying from Home Depot would be NOTA.

[@demonrathunter]

Just paid the same price for a same sized Kubota and I know where to get parts and repairs. Just saying.

[@lordchaa1598]

Courtney has been pushing this brand hard on bud Good Works Tractor Channel. I’ll say here what I say there. I’ll see what they look like in 2-3 years and see how they hold up as well as parts availability in that time frame. When it looks to good to be true, it usually is.

[@thudable]

Thank you. I've been looking at this model for a couple months. I appreciate the camera angles, especially the underside.

[@hhamilton1970]

👍

[@jonesrick1]

Looks like a good value. Only question is durability. My 1025R came with a two year warranty, no third function, and a battery that's that way too hard to access. I like JD because it's an American icon and after 2 1/2 years I only had to replace one front tire. JD's are status symbols. That's one reason I bought mine, to be honest. But that Summit tractor looks like a winner with that third function ability. Excellent video.

[@hhamilton1970]

Thank you

[@brandtwebber5761]

You do realize JD is Chinese below like 75 hp, not trying to be mean but it is what it is.

[@jonesrick1]

@@brandtwebber5761 What isn't Chinese these days? Some of the Asian stuff I have is of excellent quality. I'm as patriotic as the next guy. I salute whoever gives me quality and price. Just don't tread on me.

[@douglasdangelo6755]

Summit comes with a 3 year full warranty and a 7 year powertrain

[@bobbg9041]

Ford needs to start making the 8n or 9n or todays model a 24n tractor no frills just like the 1949 stuff and all manual transmission with gears no hydrostatic stuff. Frt loaded rear excavator options.

[@hhamilton1970]

I heard that 👍👍

[@johncobb2695]

Yes I really like my 1950 rebuilt 8N ford tractor just wish it had "live hydraulics". After complete rebuild and new tires $9000 invested.

[@Bigtoolrack]

I've never really looked into these tractors before but they have some cool features, great video!

[@hhamilton1970]

Thanks 👍

[@beunbad]

Good Works tractor on KZbin has had a pre production version for some time and has a lot of videos on it. This is cheaper than smaller 1025r, BX 23s and can outwork it. A bit bigger than I need but my Farmer buddies have said buy a little bigger than you think you need..

[@jarmstrong2843]

The proof will be in the pudding on how good these tractors hold up. Keep in mind manufacturers often use its customers for quality control to keep developmental costs down. You won’t know if you bought a POS or not until you’ve seen how durable it is, difficulty getting warranty work done and buying repair/replacement parts. Personally, I’d like to hear from those who bought the tractor and see their experiences before buying.

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah, I don’t know anyone personally that has one.

[@doolittlegeorge]

​@@hhamilton1970will come with a Warranty plus probably a full return policy for 30 60 or even 90 days. I'd take an E-GO Zero Turn from Lowes et al as you're in business in your side hustle straight away that is the *ULTIMATE* in "time is money. That machine is well under $10,000 and using that savings if this is your budget you're getting every maintenance for lawn and garden imaginable...plus just plug the item in your garage to a regular Wall outlet. And I think *"The Industry"* now suddenly recognizes this as well. Very impressive *"feature rich"* feature set. The E-GO does have a steering wheeling now as well with a full on LCD Display on that mechanism which, again.... Zero Turn good luck being the simplicity of that. Lots of room for far greater upgrades as well. Surprised no one from Home Depot came out to try and sell this item.

[@MUUKOW3]

​@@doolittlegeorgeNo one in their right mind would use An E -go for a lawn service. What do you do carry a generator to charge it between stops?

[@blaineverhelle4104]

Am I the only one that thinks the axles look strange? Those are not axle housing. Those are the actual axles. Look more like a front wheel drive axle. Most tractors axle housing comes all the way out to the wheels supporting the weight in the torque of the tractor. This just has the axle sticking out that far? How good could that be?.

[@robertstambaugh8242]

I don't know much about axles but my first thought is the same as yours. I tend to be tough on my stuff so I was hoping someone more knowledgeable would answer this question.

[@blaineverhelle4104]

@@robertstambaugh8242 All I can Tell you is to look at how other brands are made. Too have that much axel sticking out unsupported doesn't seem like a very good thing. I have a Kubota and it has an axel housing coming out all the way to the wheel. now mines a 4 wheel drive so I'm not sure if that's why.

[@robertstambaugh8242]

Thank you Hank for this video. I am considering one of these and haven't been able to see one in person yet. I have read most of their web site info and watched a ton of videos about them, lots of inaccurate info in the comments. Your channel is one of very few I am subscribed to. I respect your opinion and your service.

[@hhamilton1970]

Thank you. Just pointed out the things I saw. No agenda. I appreciate you watching and commenting

[@johncollins3910]

On the control sticks. they are adjustable angle so you find what angle you want then lock them in. Nice feature.

[@bellat8448]

I’d say it’s a nice $9,999 tractor

[@tedcygan3733]

Their website says rim guard in tires. Lots of standard features.

[@hhamilton1970]

👍

[@douglasweller9709]

I looked at them at a farm supply. I don’t like the way to get at the machine to service it . The hood is low when up making hard to get in there and the dipstick is in a bad place as stated here in the video. I will stick with the Bobcat or Kioti !

[@ericthatankn8704]

Its showing low because the bucket is in dump position and is using that amount of hydraulic oil hopefully they wouldn't be loading and unloading the tractor with it dry

[@NYTROeast]

I like the way you went over it you did a lot better job displaying the tractor and what it has than Courty did

[@peanutbutter2597]

There is no doubt that a summit tractor is a quality made tractor and it has a lot of really nice features ! And I was a kubota tractor dealer for 20 years till I sold out and retired ! So I’ll say this ! Go ahead and buy it and take care of it yourself ! Because you will be buying a machine from a company that doesn’t have a service department !!! As long as you do a good job of keeping it serviced properly then you’ll be fine 😅

[@NYTROeast]

Its making oil but will it start?

[@marktaylor1253]

Went to my local hydraulic hose repair. He had an off brand tractor that he couldn't find parts for. Not an old model either. If you can find parts he said they usually aren't cheap.

[@PeaceIntheValley]

they were driving these dry to park them in front of the store. Not sure I would want to touch them. I bet Summit would love to know that.

[@hhamilton1970]

Yep.

[@peanutdroppings6882]

I bought a Summit tractor a few months ago and I can comfortably say that for the money it’s superior to all other brands at the same price point with matching features. I do wish they carried a cabbed version and I would have purchased that but I’m content without it. Are there better tractors? Yea I’d say maybe but you’ll pay a hefty premium on the name alone. If I’d waiting spend double the money I’d have gotten a cat and I was in between a kioti and a kuboda but the both were priced considerably higher for the same features. I’m about to cross 100 hours which is a lot for only a couple months but it still functions like the day I bought it.

[@hhamilton1970]

Thanks for the feedback. Interesting to hear from real owners 👍

[@Tonyrd3000]

Looking at their site, they are planning on a cabbed model and a larger HP model in the near future.

[@tclodfelter8789]

I watched a video of a guy doing his 50hr fluid/filter change! The oil filter was painted over so it was a bear to get off.

[@lynnshomestead7545Johnlynn]

Hank if the transmission is dry that means they drove it to the front that way

[@hhamilton1970]

I think you’re right

[@lynnshomestead7545Johnlynn]

@@hhamilton1970 I work at lowes in Paris Tennessee and most things like those tractors comes assembled in a semi truck

[@BENNHENDRICKS33]

I think for a small tractor doing small work its decent. I own a landscaping company, think a tractor like this with turf tires would be a good thing. I think each individual buyer has different needs, and situations so there’s a buyer for every tractor.

[@tangoseal1]

I understand they went of business? I think Good works tractors made mention of that somewhere on his videos.

[@hhamilton1970]

I don't think so.

[@robertfrost1623]

$20K and then what? Lift and dump a wheel barrow full of dirt. When you burn the transaxle up because there is no oil in it. Good luck with Home Depot doing anything. Looks to me like a bad investment. If you really need a tractor that size, rent one for $200 a day and then you will tell yourself, glad I didn't buy one of these coat hangers.

[@Cheeses01]

Who said Home Depot services them? No one. Have fun waiting months for any service on a Kubota or Deere. Deere was sued because they dont release any manuals and make every customer bring their tractor into a dealership for repair due to the contracts they have with them. Catastrophic tractor issues are 1 in 1000 the rest are replacing seals, filters, fluid ect. Which any tractor owner can do for themselves.

[@HenryMabe-yd2ob]

Rear axle is a leak waiting to happen Does it have the drive over easy attach belly mower? does the front loader quick detach ? I looked up the price and it cost more than John Deere 1023e . CRAZY JUNK

[@hhamilton1970]

I answered some of that in the video.

[@paulg1827]

I wonder how they drove those out front with no hydraulic fluid in them..........?

[@hhamilton1970]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[@angusblack9900]

Probably just low.😅

[@tclodfelter8789]

I've been looking at the Summit for several month! It has a lot of standard featiues like the auto leveling bucket, twin mirrors, the front and rear hydraulic valves and loaded tires!

[@edp9743]

Home D for service and warranty, No! the bottom side needs shielding as well as the hydraulic filter.

[@paoemantega8793]

Looks like a handy and value homestead tractor, thankyou Hank.

[@kevinhardin2941]

I like what I see in that tractor, I would not be afraid to buy it. I just bought a mahindra 1626 with loader and backhoe, I am waiting to get it delivered right now because I had the dealer install rear remotes so I can run a hydraulic top link. Just the remotes cost me 1600.00 dollars more.this summit has the same mitsubishi engine mine has. Bottom line, I don't care what tractor you buy red,green,orange,white, or rainbow painted you are getting a tractor that is made from parts " globally sourced ". That's the world we live in. I own a 1958 ford powermaster deisel, no loader,no backhoe, Armstrong power sterring that is why I just bought a new mahindra and I am one EXITED old man !!!!!!

[@hhamilton1970]

Right on!

[@ThetreeDraggon]

they sell these tractors at our local tractor supply as well. really it would be a good replacement for our john deere e170 mower if it just had a mower deck option on it. i think thats whats really stopping it from being a big seller besides the price being almost 20k as well which most people dont have for a small tractor now a days. 😂👍

[@ThetreeDraggon]

and i did google a little while back to see if this had a mid mount mower option, and i didn't see anywhere about it having that option, so now am kind of confused after seeing that hook up under it. 🤔

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah confused me too

[@ThetreeDraggon]

@@hhamilton1970Right? 😂

[@tomkelley8313]

I've seen these once in NH.

[@3sparewashers-lg3gf]

Seems ok. Not loving the 20k price tag for an indian tractor, that rear end looks really anemic too. My 20 hp garden tractor looks like it has bigger axle housings. Sheet metal hood is nice though, I dont like fiberglass much. Aluminum is still best if you can weld it.

[@hhamilton1970]

It definitely has some good features

[@LivingCommonSense]

The 25HP Summit is roughly equal to the JD 2025r in size/hp but much heavier on factory features. With that, I got a price on the Summit for $19500.00 with loader today. The Deere website has the 2025r for $22100.00 without the loader. If I needed a 25hp loader tractor for business, I would straight up give the Summit a shot.

[@hhamilton1970]

Right on.

[@andrewgee241]

So if you need any warranty repair are you taking your Summit back to Home Depot? Haha. A reliable dealer network is critical and Summit doesn't have it now. Maybe it will develop in the future or they will end up like Montana tractors.

[@LivingCommonSense]

@@andrewgee241 - Yep. I'm not really worried about warranty repairs. If anything, I'd be more concerned with parts availability because John Deere also has problems getting parts.

[@carolinafirewood]

I like the idea of a local home depot having the Summit available. I would suspect it will be a matter of time to get established for service availability. I might consider one myself, but may wait for a bigger model. I don't believe the loader can handle a lot of weight and I need to move full totes of firewood.

[@DieselRamcharger]

home depot doesnt support what they sell.

[@hhamilton1970]

You're correct

[@michaeldavid2320]

Not only do they not service they will drop a line and change brands without any consideration for customers. That said, I would consider Summit if I needed a new tractor. Like others mentioned, they come with a lot of options as standard.

[@donalexander4083]

@@DieselRamcharger would you really trust home depot to service it anyway? i for sure wouldn't

[@rmcdaniel423]

It's my understanding that Summit contracts the service work by setting up factory authorized techs at a locally owned shop that already exists in the communities where they decide to have a retail dealer. The retail and the service are not the same place. Some towns have farm stores that are ready to sell the tractors but have to wait until a nearby service shop is also contracted. They don't want to sell you a tractor if they don't have someone in same community to help with any issues. In my town, you would buy the tractor at a Family Farm and Home store, and any service or parts work that is needed is done through an already existing shop on the other side of town that services all sorts of tractors and outdoor power equipment. For them, this is just another brand among the many they already service. I like the idea that it supports a local shop instead of the Jolly Green Giant.

[@mr.redneck2715]

Nice tractor!! I can’t believe it comes with the third function mid PTO and rim guard installed. Even though it’s not true third function, it works.

[@hhamilton1970]

Right on

[@floydrandol2731]

Reliability? I had a new JD2025r and had several issues, had 2 seat switches stop working in the first year and an issue with fuel getting to the motor. I feel JD is far too expensive to own or repair. Time to give someone else a chance at an affordable price.

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah they have some good features that are standard . Time will tell how they do👍

[@welcometowv]

I also bought a JD2025R with the belly mower, loader, and backhoe. It was in the shop 9 times within the first 6 months. The dealer put way more hours on the tractor testing their repairs than I did at home. Do I believe in a dealer network? Yes I do, and it will be interesting to see what equipment dealers Summit partners with for service. Do I believe in JD? Absolutely not. My local dealer could not repair my tractor. After 8 times, I finally had to show them what to fix and then the tractor was ok. I sold it. Resale value??? Resale value??? Yes, I sold a 1 year old JD2025R for more than the Summit cost new, but I took a substantial hit on a 1 year old tractor. There is really only one advantage that I can see with JD over any other brand currently on the market and that is their mower quick attach capability - really fantastic. I have an 8 year old MF 1736 and it has been in the shop ZERO times in 8 years. I'm glad to see some affordable SCUT folks come along in the marketplace.

[@steliandone4078]

The front bucket is not well built compared with other brands. I am surprised that nobody noticed it. They cut corners for sure. The back fenders lights are too big. In fact the end of taillights on the orizontal end doesn’t touch the fender. I can point out many other things but I will stop here. The price is too high. I do believe that if they price the tractors at around 17k they are going to sell some. I know they have new 3 years old tractors which…. the batteries are already expired on most of them.

[@TF856]

I call that nob a three-point drop rate. MECHANICAL PARALLEL LINKAGE on the loader. Lots of people call loaders like that self-leveling but they are not self-leveling! Self-leveling is an electronic control on much larger loaders. Just push a button no matter where the broom is and it will go level. Also very useful when there's forks on the loader. On tractors like this you have to set it yourself to the angle that you want by watching the bucket angle indicator on the boom as you indicated. But with the MECHANICAL PARALLEL LINKAGE it will stay at the same angle, any angle, while the boom goes up and down. Much like the HYDRAULIC PARALLEL LINKAGE on the large construction forklifts. But to call those self leveling is ridiculous!!! Buckets like those Don't do anything by theirself!!!

[@TF856]

I really miss my little 33 horsepower New Holland. But a couple of months after I got it a gear broke in the transmission while I was driving slow with no load. At that point I started thinking about selling it cuz I didn't want it to break again after the warranty ran out.

[@sprtplt]

Looks cheap. No dealer network. No parts availability. No chance of making it. LOL

[@hhamilton1970]

tell us how you really feel. 😂

[@jefferykeeper9034]

The problem with HD is that there's no Customer support and what about parts Availabilitie ?

[@John_Ridenour]

One thing I don't like is the hydraulic loader connections facing out where they are bound to get damaged out in the woods.

[@hhamilton1970]

I don’t think so. I’ve had them hanging out like that on a tractor i used to own and they never got messed up and I took it into the woods often. But I had the same concern when I first bought it. But it proved to be an unwarranted concern

[@wlc1980]

I like the colors, the features and the looks. I would be concerned about parts and service. I think I want one the next size up. Not sure if the price is right or not. I know Home Depot won’t haggle though.

[@slagmaker6780]

Not sure I like the small diameter axles... my JD755 has much larger diameter axles that extend much closer to the rims..

[@chaseledbetter5186]

Courtney at good works tractor has been testing and using one for like a year. His review has sold me on them. For the price and all the stock features it seems hard to beat

[@hhamilton1970]

yeah he's put out some good content on them for sure

[@chief1193]

Beware, these are not the same tractor as his. There are a lot of differences between his prototype and the ones for sale now, build quality being much better on the prototype

[@roynajecki1100]

@@chief1193 I've looked at a Summit tractor locally and couldn't see any difference between Courtney's and the one I viewed at Runnings. What are the those differences? As to build quality are you stating unsupported opinion or do you have first hand knowledge with this tractor that you can expound upon?

[@mattdouglas7944]

Good Works is using the standard one now. If anything, it upgraded what he had according to his video.@@chief1193

[@ericmead299]

I'd give 5K. Beautiful color for sure

[@ThetreeDraggon]

i was saying it would be a great replacement for our john deere e170 if it wasn't for it being over 20k with the attachments and if it actually had a mower deck option, because i didnt see anywhere about it actually having a deck.

[@ThePullnfool]

Great review.. I have a T474 TYM tractor with cab and back hoe.. I like my tractor cept for the fuel tank is too small.. Less than eight gallons..

[@ellobo1326]

That tractor has a lot of features for the money. And a pretty good warranty.

[@MikeL-vu7jo]

It looks ok but if you ask one of the folks working there about that dry reading on that hydro dip sticks they will give you that deer in the head lights look because last week they were in shovels and rakes , Thanks .

[@michaelfinney2160]

Just a rebranded tractor. Problems with this can occur on down the road if they have discontinued the tractor and there are no parts availability or any dealer support. If you can deal with that then give it a try. I would rather go with proven tractors and companies like TYM, Kubota, John Deere or even LS. Have a Blessed Fathers Day !

[@hhamilton1970]

Good points. Thanks!

[@BrickyardPowerMan]

I'll stick with Kubota.

[@hhamilton1970]

👍

[@richc9890]

I wonder if the loader stick is made that way for adjusting it (depending on the arm length of the user). You may have to tighten it once the position is comfortrable.

[@hhamilton1970]

May be. Didn’t think of that.

[@andrewanderson1436]

Brock over at Rockhill farms has a friend with one and has a youtube channel also. That may help out a few folks. He had a 1025r deer and got the summit tractor

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah but Brock is all about John Deere so I probably wouldn’t be his friend. I’m totally joking, me and Brock are good buddies. He’s got an awesome KZbin channel! 😂

[@andrewanderson1436]

@@hhamilton1970 your not wrong 😂

[@stevestock2439]

Lot of tractor for 20K, yes it is self leveler, loaded tires and third function all included in base price.

[@LedgemereHeritageFarm]

That thing sure looks narrow

[@williammitchell4661]

That bucket control probably moves for better hand position

[@hhamilton1970]

May be

[@CARLOSCARLOS-vy9st]

Summit is made in India by SOLIS. Solis use to be sold at some Yanmar dealers. Yanmar has or use to have some kind of partnership with Solis. They have some very beefy 45 to 55 horsepower tractors.

[@clintcowles7563]

Thank you Hank. I seen these for sale in Charlevoix Michigan at the family home and farm store. And I personally was curious. Thanks again!

[@hhamilton1970]

Yes sir

[@DKWalser]

They say a US made backhoe will be available for the tractor in July 2023. That's good, because it's hard to find a 3rd-party made backhoe. What about a mid-mount mower? One of the attractions of a subcompact tractor is that you can use it for work in your yard and still do some real work in the field. As of right now, it doesn't appear that a Summit tractor can do that. The implements just aren't available.

[@hhamilton1970]

I’m sure they have a plan for releasing more stuff. They’re doing good by having Courtney from good works show them off

[@irspiff]

The TX25 is not a sub compact tractor, it is a compact tractor. Yes they will be offering a mid mount mower.

[@lflowell]

For the price of a mid mount mower deck, you can buy a zero turn.

[@bradleyhupp6433]

LOVE THE CUP HOLDER. THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE WORTH THE PRICE.

[@angusblack9900]

Im sure they have a agreement with a local tractor dealer for service work.😅

[@tclodfelter8789]

They're supposed to bring out a 35hp model in 2024!

[@davehudson4607]

How would Courtney know if they’re any good or not. They haven’t been around long enough to know. Like you said, looks ok, and maybe a little rough. Only time and experience will tell. Thank you for the walk around.

[@hhamilton1970]

Courtney probably has the most use of any KZbinr I’ve seen. There’s another guy that has one on his channel that did a collab with Brock at Rockhill Farm I seen. I know Courtney, he’s gonna be straight up with his videos.

[@mattywho8485]

@14:22 when you are seeing that there is NO hydraulic fluid in the transaxle, I looked at the left axle, only to see major paint run drips from when this thing was manufactured in some crappy facility in India. After using my neighbor's Mahindra for a few minutes (another brand made in India) I would NEVER buy any tractor made there, EVER. I like what this company is doing with the extra remotes on a sub-compact, but make the thing in the USA ! As far as I'm concerned "price point" should not be a factor in buying a tractor. If I have to spend a few grand more to get a name brand, I'm gonna do it.

[@bowdoin5063]

It is self leveling, comes standard as is everything on it.

[@Vinnyj957]

Here in Texas they're selling them near me for $18,000

[@stephenscudder64]

the thing you have to ask yourself is will you be able to get parts or service in 10 or 20 years

[@hhamilton1970]

👍

[@nevadabadger7925]

Greetings from Reno,Nevada. I was just in Chandler, Oklahoma. I saw two of these at an Atwood’s. I got out and did the same inspection as you in the rain. I took a brochure. I will look in my area. I would buy this. I have 2.5 acres os scrubbed sage brush.

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah I think it would be a good fit for that type of “homestead”

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

You had me at Kubota! Tractor Hard! 🚜💪!

[@hhamilton1970]

Right on

[@annalorree]

I’m gonna sound old, but that’s way too much plastic for me. I grew up with John Deere and Kubota tractors of the 1980s. Now for my small area, I just have my old 1950 Ford 8n. Yes, that tractor can do things my 8n can’t, but I seriously doubt there will be any of those tractors working 73 years from now.

[@hhamilton1970]

8n’s are good tractors

[@3sparewashers-lg3gf]

Them old fords are indestructable. Love my ‘68 5000

[@noonerstrickland1743]

It’s got the triangle on the back. That’s an added little bonus. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@hhamilton1970]

Lol

[@christimm394]

I saw them at HD in Knoxville, Tennessee

[@felipeaccioly8671]

Sucata in Portuguese means scrap or refers to a machine that's ready for junk yard

[@tomadelsberger6101]

I want to know where is the fuel tank fill I hope that isn't it behind the mirror

[@jamesyoung6420]

Cleveland tn home depot sells them too. I was just there. Surprised me but pretty cool too.

[@hhamilton1970]

Right on.

[@projectswithjw]

This comment section sure was fun to read. 🍿😆

[@hhamilton1970]

They look like good tractors. They have some big hurdles to jump with preconceived ideas

[@kevinklingner7712]

The Mitsubishi engines are great engines. I have had two for over thirty years r s and they go and go and go they are mile be t ter that brings and station.

[@hhamilton1970]

👍

[@donalexander4083]

no hydraulic fluid in it would not make me happy they drove it to where its sitting after all