Are the "Boys" divided, deluded or worse? Wajahat & Ayesha Siddiqa debate the Pak Army

The #Boys are back in town, but they're in trouble. The faceoff with the #PTI has put the #pakistanarmy in a mess when it comes to public support, unity of command, and the most important factor: morale.
#wajahatsaeedkhan debates with leading military scholar #ayeshasiddiqa, about what's next with the world's fifth largest fighting force, considering that #imrankhan has won the latest round.
Based between New York, London and Pakistan, Emmy-nominated journalist #wajahatsaeedkhan breaks down the latest from New York.
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Bio: Wajahat S. Khan is an Emmy-nominated journalist and author reporting on Indo-Pacific security and focusing on the Af-Pak conflict. An Adjunct Professor at New York University’s Center of Global Affairs and a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Washington’s Atlantic Council, Khan is a graduate of the Columbia University School of Journalism and the University of Michigan, and Pakistan’s only Shorenstein Fellow from Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. He has reported from 16 countries covering conflict, diplomacy, and media for digital, cable and network news. During the final years of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan, Khan was bureau chief in Kabul and Islamabad for NBC News, and embedded with over a hundred NATO, Afghan, Indian and Pakistani military units as he covered South Asia for leading British, Indian and Pakistani networks and publications since the beginning of the 2001 U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. He frequently dabbles in cricket, and is the author of the 2019 Amazon / Harper Collins sports bestseller, Game Changer: Being Shahid Afridi. He lives between New York City, London and Karachi and drives a very, very fast car.

[@mansharafiq]

These Generals are making the whole of Pakistan look disgusting with their actions

[@badermunir5944]

Nothing will happen. Here in bloody Paki society , bloody Law supports & protect the criminals , money launderers , usurpers , land grabbers & corrupt elite(rather rogues).. Unfortunately the real rogues are Boots & Guns....

[@mohdiqbal8972]

What have civilian goverments acheived.?

[@badermunir5944]

@Mohd Iqbal was there any civilian Govt. .? I doubt.

[@zahoorahmed120]

The corrupt generals need to go

[@newazkabir8380]

​@@mohdiqbal8972 after a long period of time PAK has got a most honest and visionary leader as IK. So pls support him to come to power as political party. He has vision to direct the country in a positive way.

[@ZubairAhmad-yj9et]

Pakistan Army owns the country with 25 millions slaves but in most countries, the country owns it's army.

[@Black-St0rk]

Malik Riaz ko b ap slave lagta hai?ya Nishant group, ya nawaz group

[@sa4555]

You mean 250 million slaves!

[@fahimullahkhan9631]

Enemy BOT spotted

[@jasha9sandhu]

Imran Khan vs Pak Army Establishment ! Who's betting on Imran Khan as the ultimate winner.

[@adamhasseeb2151]

ITS 2300MIL ,23 CURROR LOG

[@ZubairAhmad-yj9et]

In Pakistan: Anarchy, Lawlessness is the law. Reign Of Terror is the form/system. Corruption is the main business.

[@MTK90]

They r following british empire's footsteps.

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

Let's not forget current problem is Sharif Buying out Munir. Something this highly biased lady didn't say!!!! She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@Syedda-nosheen]

So true

[@anasjamal4242]

only rule of law will curb all these problems that's why v support IK

[@shaheeralikhan9561]

Seriously man, I hate this society jaha per tumhara sirf taruf chalay Kay may army officer ya police may DSP ho. Why bro why? Keo taruf chahiye bas CNIC lo and see that I'm a citizen of Pakistan just as you

[@farhansiddiq]

Taking about corruption of politicians and ignoring army is ignorance at its best

[@MegaBaddog]

no, not talking about wadera shahis and the same army whoch engineered ANARI KHAN'S election in 2018 is very misleading

[@saeedkashif118]

​@@MegaBaddogpppppp P P P P P Pp P PPpp Pppp Ppp Pp ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ P ❤ ❤

[@imrannadeem7637]

Listening to Dr.Ayesha was a treat

[@fahmad7194]

Ayesha Siddiqa is an intelligent person. She has a decent grip on the subject of Pakistan Army. Invite her more often 👍

[@samiyamlk5]

I realized a marked difference of demeanor between expression of men of letters and women of letters. If Ayesha had less to worry about her status and presentstion and had she been talking to her mom she had this to say Mujhe lugta he k Asim Munir (AM) ki maa ne kisi qabooliyet ki ghari me jo dua AM k liye ki ho gi wo poori hoi he. Or AM ne tender age me hifz k doran jo maarein khYein hain un ki badolat ye aik shattered personality ka admi tha or he. Is ko is k barŕe bahaduri or afsari ka sabq dete rahe or ye bichara apni Mental health me sink hota raha. On another level he looks like a severe case of child abuse. This explains why he is on the move at critical junctures. And this also explains Ayeshas observation that he is a tool to handle IK. But but but ....I also want to take it to a different direction and pray for a touch of sympathy. Had he courage to say no he wd not hv joined army had he courage he wd not hv accepted any promotion. Had he courage he wd not hv pledged to NS. He seems not to be the one intentionally taking decisions. He is no courage to either say no or do anything against the people around him to displease them. He is at the LOWEST level of MH. HAVE SOME SYMPATHY.

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

Please on western media she is very anti Imran Khan and anti PTI. She is very pro PPP and PLMN. Wouldn't be surprised if she is on their payroll!!!

[@unclekol1]

​@@samiyamlk5well said ❤

[@aamirraja94]

@@samiyamlk5 may be OTS is also a factor

[@ahmedhumayunrasheed2434]

2:05 - Loved the line, you said to Inc.! Haha! Always nice to hear her! Genius!

[@saimazubair7003]

I remember military inc. our teacher asked us to read during Phd course....

[@yasiraziz425]

Brilliant analysis and really sad to see that our state institutions are in dilemma

[@qrz7152]

They also made MQM,they raised Bhutto!in case she forgot!

[@sarwarali3092]

Thinking? Thinking is what they aren't capable of!

[@Hasans01]

Excellent analysis...some theories could be speculated but historical evidence is enough to validate. Thanks for initiating this interview and do bring her often in future discussions .

[@xohaib4eva]

Amazing, this lady was defending Bajwa and co on ABC news Australia after the Operation Regime Change. She is so anti Imran that she can hug the Gens

[@waqasmun1122]

Conclusion:- Generals rule the Pakistan and be calm it’s nothing new in history just we were ignorant for several decades.

[@fahadramzan1137]

پاکستان کے خلاف بہت سارے محاز کھولے گئے۔ کچھ ہم نے خود کھولے اور کافی سارے ہمارے خلاف کھولے گئے۔ This statement says all in itself! SO TRUE!!

[@farrahshahzad]

Great analysis by a learned person. But most of our rulers are not for Pakistan and it’s growth. People have to take charge

[@Bvi9169]

She is pro PDM and anti Imran. Mega biased

[@umairiqbal2880]

Ye aunti imran Khan k khilaf h

[@Syedda-nosheen]

Thank God you included Ms Ayesha Siddiqa. I am glad to hear her perspective. Surprised to hear that the army chief flew to Qatr. What was the need to? Who did he go to? No Asim Muneer is nervous. His visit to Qatr shows this!

[@syedanisurrahman3930]

Brilliant, balanced and none biased discussion 👏 👍

[@shawnharrison5608]

I am sorry but this lady sounds like a Wrong Number, clearly has a soft corner for establishment (esp PMLN) and status quo

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

100% She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@amjadmalik7285]

Definitely....😢

[@hassanmasood6475]

One of the footage shows the window panes of guard room and main building were already broken when the first boys of the mob entered the CCH in Lahore.

[@talwatni2947]

One of the best Vlogs of yours WJS, very soft but critical conversation; speakers like Dr Aisha, Dr Moeed bring this critical academic perspective. Need more of such shows.

[@kamranmansoor243]

With all due respect to her, the people came out to protest, because they love IK and not only because they were angry of their lot after IK's removal. He, IK, is now the center of their hopes.

[@mbilalahmad450]

Pakistan Zindabad…. Perfect, powerful and in-depth analysis on current affairs of Pak Army .. we know COAS is in trouble .. but he has bought this chair at the price of honor .. now he is indebted to the investors, and resulted is the chaos that country is suffering.. Dr Ayesha rightly mentioned overhauling that is needed in institutions but the matter is who has the guts to do that .. only Khan if he gets the team and power will be able to do! Great show … Bravo 👏

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@kikotito1094]

Mere Bhi Pakistan zinda bad ni hora zinda bhag hota he apna Nara sahi krne ka waqt agya he

[@tseringangchuk5420]

Khan indeed has a great team or super cabinet that consists of Pinki Peerni, Farah Gogi, Usman Buzdar, Shiekh Talli, Fawad Halwai, Pervez Illahi(Punjab ka Sabse bada daaku) and finally Youthia Bandiyal.

[@fiazali6983]

What we have seen khan in ten tears he is the worst of all he will install another buzdar as coas and what will happen you can never imagine.. he has gang of theif in his team as pinki pirni andfarah goggi as competent team. If khan ever come into power I am seeing chaos and clashes in pakistan.

[@mohdiqbal8972]

​@@tseringangchuk5420 and not to forget their leader whonthey now say deserves respect pf a.prophet.

[@saminahabibjanjua3400]

great discussion Wajahat Sahb..Thank you so much

[@asadnawaz-sz5jm]

Salute to Mam Dr. Aysha, being public procurement professional I would like to read her books on army procurement to gain knowledge as well as to judge insights in that...❤ . Thanks wajahat❤

[@rizwanashraf3936]

Mr, Wajahat, This is called unbiased, academic and non-political analysis. Feel the difference.

[@scifunwithfatmahamnah9639]

Bilkul I agree with you

[@akhbarsultanpuri6450]

They have to choose the right path in order to secure their position back......

[@khalfanhaider5263]

Thanks for this insightful episode.. looking forward to read her books.

[@farhanakhtermalik1649]

She is an Army person for sure & sugar-coated anti Imran.... On ground, right now, no one is more powerful than IK.... COAS knows IK can give him the unlimited power to control & he is a sensible man...

[@almaslakhani6693]

Her points were senseless

[@LifestyleSofasonlineltd]

Very comprehensive and detailed dissection of a extremely complex situation

[@sellwithzulfimalik4211]

Sir Jee, who you have brought today. Unimpressive lady

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@shariqtariq]

I have new found respect for Ayesha Siddiqa - thank you Wajahat!

[@azadrpatel]

Wajahat Bhai Once a Staunch CHEERLEADER OF THE BOYS……..turned ROGUE…..great analysis though

[@zulfiqarali264]

Insha Allah something good will happen

[@nidanaseem5038]

Another good discussion Wajahat and absolutely intellectual guest. Thankyou so much 😊

[@MianSherjil]

Clearly this lady is a pro spin doctor. She effectively pitched that Nawaz Shareef tried to de-politicise army and didnt talk about "saada chief" mentality of Nawaz Shareef which is implemented even right now ! She is clearly down playing Imran Khan and spinning things.

[@almaslakhani6693]

Completely agree she disappointed me

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

100% She is KNOWN TO BE THE MOUTH PIECE of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI. Her opinion is tarnished and I wouldn't be surprised if she is on the payroll of shairf or Zadri

[@unclekol1]

She scares me, like the devil in disguise

[@ismail4900]

in all countries army chief is below PM, so what if NS wanted that way.

[@IndiaTides]

Your knowledge and her knowledge is on different level. Sometimes it is good to be humble and learn what she wants to say.

[@ahmedhumayunrasheed2434]

My father was Adjutant 8 Baluch during the war 71, and later POW! Was Captain!

[@sutrangi]

Excellent discussion - great insight by Dr. Ayesha - thanks, Wajahat, for allowing us to listen to her views firsthand as she wasn't in my good books(I'm sure there must be other "ex-fiftheyes") - cleared many misconceptions about her - all the credit goes to IK and many those like you who put their lives at stake and many who laid down their lives to get this menace exposed right in broad daylight. One last request to clear up things 100% - in your next interaction with Dr. Ayesha, we request she raises Pakistan Zindabad along with you.

[@SAli-td8kl]

While she talks a lot of sense the one thing people like her cannot grasp is that Khan has genuine support on the ground. His support base has been increasing since 1996 every single year army did not help increase his support base

[@tahiraziz9529]

I believe that Imran Khan was successful in becoming a politician or coming into power because of his reputation as an honest person and a world class athlete, military only assisted by getting him a fair elections to some extent.

[@imranhaider2013]

Interesting information is shared by Dr. Ayesha in this Vlog.

[@aftabkhanize]

Could the fire of Corps Commander house was a deliberate action by Rana Sana and the intelligence agencies inorder to discredit PTI

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

100% Mooed Prizada thinks soo

[@AzamSheikh]

Very brilliant talk by professor Ayesha Siddiqa.

[@venkag]

Ayesha Siddiqa ji continues to amaze me with the insights she shares. I admire her keen observation at events and the way she arrives at conclusions is just awesome.

[@amiriqbal5501]

Absolutely right analysis by wajahat SB, infact security agencies given strong message to handlers and Chief justice about high pressure from public and uncontrolled panic situation in the country. so therefore finally supreme court intervene and realease to İmran Khan.

[@sabachughtai6305]

What is this lady saying. It almost sounds she is urging Asim Munir to continue this confrontation while PTI. She is saying in six months if Asim Munir develops confidence he will be able to stand up to Imran khan. She should be saying Asim Munir should work on how to control his army to make it a better and non political army

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@MazharJoyo]

Dear Wajahat please post videos daily your voice is like music to our ears we love to hear you listen to you every single day

[@SuggarRushh]

Are you gay?

[@Asadullah-iv4zl]

Very thought provoking and in my view the best podcast so far. Explaining the politics of Army with facts and history rather than mere bashing like by Adil raja. However he has is own place and l watch him usually when l am frustrated at the Army.

[@timothyandersson6824]

Really exceptionally analysis by Ayasha Siddiqa. I really enjoyed the whole vlog.

[@carteblanchebymaria4106]

Playing on both sides...well done sir

[@nisardar2652]

He has to - otherwise remember Arshad Sharif

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@unclekol1]

​@@nisardar2652that's not a 'HAS' it's a 'WANT' his someone who would like to keep GOD happy but also not piss off the devil.. and people like that can never be fully trusted

[@designerazeem]

Well Welll... Good to see that you called her on the show.... ❤ Keep it up WSJ

[@shafiqurrehman161]

Your analysis at the end and ISPR statement points toward the theory that all these installations were damaged deliberately, with the help of ISI.

[@bugtechs8325]

Boys gotta give up, things have changed dramatically in this era of great awareness and boys gotta mind their own business more and less of the shenanigans.

[@mahmoodmohammed7405]

she is a Imran Hater . lover of Nawaz , right Nawz is in a such a disgrace so she is creating distance from nawaz, her opinion is bias ,,,

[@mohdiqbal8972]

Every one has a right to their opinion. Disagreeing with niazi shouldnt be frowned upon. Unfortunately ignorants within pti have raised mr niazi tonthe level of a.prophet as we saw in mardan where a molvi was killed for making an absurd statement.

[@bb2680]

Wajahat your English is excellent! You don't need to be nervous before anyone.

[@aniwaz50]

Honorable Lady! Ayesha Saddiqa

[@syedhaseebahmed9367]

Miss Ayesha siddiqa is negating her own argument. She is saying that the generals are not in asim Munir control because most of them were appointed by his predecessor and they were not in favor of the vote of no confidence while we all know that the vote of no confidence was initiated by general bajwa with the support of these generals... or were they from Yugoslavia at that time

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@nafeesahmad266]

Very Decent Opinion jazak Allah

[@virasat69]

Man From Michigan Yar lady is a professional problem creator she didn’t answer your questions since you are her admirer you accept her but you need her back in your blog and ask her your questions again 🎉

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@sajidhameed3056]

I strongly agree that reforms are mandatory in Army for their own interest and of course for the interest of the country at large

[@axefjamal1398]

Miss you Imran Riaz khan

[@blackninja9917]

What a country! Army chief is on foreign visit, P.M is celebrating coronation of U.K king, foreign minister is always in foreign and country is burning.

[@farhansiddiq]

I don’t know what this woman is talking about. Lot of babbling around the truth.

[@ch.zaheerahmad4848]

Wajahat my friend, I have been watching all of your shows, this very show was outstanding Zaheer

[@almaslakhani6693]

Unsatisfactory answers given by guest

[@SyedMuhammadNaveed-r6x]

بہت اچھی گفتگو تھی۔پاکستان ژندہ باد

[@sadaffatima542]

Not even once this analyst mentioned that he was selected not only by BAJWA bug by NS also, this one fact adds lot of dimensions to the analysis. As a public health specialist I would say that the Data collection is all skewed.

[@alyamama6503]

But why a grade 22 officer should decide that who should rule the country. This is reason public is angry from Army, by this policy, Army will loose further support from public and it’s very dangerous.

[@axifnyc999]

WSK bro stay on one side , you're doing an amazing job . we love our army as well but its time to decide some roles .

[@jameelhussain4424]

عائشہ صدیقہ پاکستان کی محسنہ ہیں۔ ہمیں ایسے ہی سماجی سائنسدانوں کی ضرورت ہے۔۔ ہماری بھی ان سے نیازمندی ہے۔

[@kamranafridi4743]

In depth analysis as always, Wajahat Khan ❤

[@ahbangash12]

At the time of attack, commander along with his family was present at his residence

[@nadeemkhanmd58]

If it's true that CC Lahore has resigned for right reasons; I shall stand and solute him for his courage! May Allah protect our beloved country and guide people in the power corridors as well as all of us. May Allah give courage to all of us to change and fear Allah. "One hour in pursuit of justice is better than 70 years to worship of Allah by spending every day fasting and every night spent praying." Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).

[@Asadullah-iv4zl]

I would love a follow up podcast with Ayesha siddiqa.

[@zahidmaqsood4290]

Politicians should not try to get strength from Generals rather from people of Pakistan.

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

Yeah and this lady failed to mention that Sharif has brought out Munir. Her opinion can not be trusted. She is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@raisbaqir4839]

Thanks ma'am you give us awareness through military Inc 🥰🥰🥰

[@ahmedhumayunrasheed2434]

10:30 - Wajahat Ayesha absolutely right!

[@muhammadbabarsayeed1629]

Great analysis of current military scenario . Lets hope things get better.

[@king1pak]

‏ ‏‪میں اوورسیز پاکستاني ہوں، عمران خان نے مجھے اپنے ملک سے پیار اور محبت کرنا سکھایا ہے اور ہمارے اندر فخر ، ہمت ، وقار پیدا کیا ہے IK Zindabad💪🇵🇰🦅..

[@parvez2103]

Aysha Siddiqa, says one thing then denies it. She said Asim Munir is not able to do what he wants within the Army, but then when questioned if AM doesn't have control, she said no she is not saying that. Then the Sahir Shamshad thing she wrote, she has denied, etc. Am not terribly impressed.

[@Iqraa30]

Dr ayesha siddiqua very calm and up to date analysis

[@rahimahmad7259]

In this tug of war, the common man is the rope

[@aimensventures]

Finally happy about your guest ! 😊

[@ahmedhumayunrasheed2434]

OTS doesn't matter when you become Full Colonel you're just like PMA guys!

[@bambamkumarjha8120]

These reporters don't stay in Pakistan they'll have British or USA citizenship and their duties is to comment on Pakistan. They should be in Pakistan and talk about Pakistan situation 😅

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

They are not safe in Pk But this lady is the mouth piece of PLMN & PPP. Whenever she goes on western Media she is very anti Imran and anti PTI.

[@zahidkorai1665]

Superb I am die fan of Madam Ayesha since she wrote his book in 99. Any way I think this is time to decide that we have to save our future and to save our army for I have some thing in my mind... 1. Separate Pak Army from all business and civil commercial activities. 2. All business incorporated of Pak Army should be take over by government of people of Pakistan. 3. Children of any Army officials are not allowed to study abroad. 4. If any retired official want job in civilian institutions have to surrender his pension from army 5. After retirement official not allowed any business activity out of country. Thank you this is all I have in my mind.

[@razakhan-ot3ce]

Turkish Army Model needs to be adopted. One single 4 star General can not take complete power of the entire state who can pull the strings of Politicians and Judges at his leisure.

[@bond7079]

GOOD NIGHT Thank u baji for ur LORI

[@mohammedshahban4459]

Bloody generals needed a lesson long ago.....they have been getting away with murder

[@saadiarasheed4831]

عائشہ صدیقہ کو سننا بڑے حوصلے کا کام ہے لیکن ان کا تجزیہ بہت بہترین ہے۔ Please ask her to speed up

[@onlypakistan4403]

Wajahat according to aysha discussion it gives a perception she is in favour of army . She should discuss the role of bajwa in Pakistan politics. How can our army support these culprits politicians. Why we start hating army she did not mention the reason. We were the people who were defending our army on every platform. But now we feel shame and believe that what PML N and indian media was saying about them was correct. We were fools. I dont understand how can they support PML N and PPP. These parties bashing them more then other political parties. How they treating pakistani media in these days, i have never seen any amry official trail in our courts . Why???? They deserve to hate . Im not talking about our jawan. We cant ask any questions from them because we are bloody civilians. But they need our yex money They cant hide behind our martyrs. Its illogical that we cant talk these things about them because they defend country.

[@afaq3053]

70 Martyrs Freedom Fighters of Haqiqi Azaadi killed by Dollar Army😭😭😡😡

[@thecitizen3870]

The new army chief lacking self confidence is the primary reason for his appointment.

[@lonewolf6286]

He is just a psychopath, Asim Munir, Nadeem Anjum, Faisal Naseer must be eliminated.

[@ghazanhussain2070]

He is an orphan 😅😅😅

[@MegaBaddog]

@@lonewolf6286 why hasnt IK posted the so called videos of faisal naseer as evidence? IK was lying for one year about donald liu

[@tanveerrizwi3726]

Extremely Happy news

[@nadeemkhanmd58]

I love the country. People come and go. The reason I like IK is the only one among the political crowd who stands out as the an honest, truthful and sincere.

[@vinsin328]

But he is the most corrupt. Also, he is not competent.

[@xthmath]

Thank you Wajahat Bhai. Ayesha G column I never used to miss ❤

[@muhammadzeeshanazhar9935]

Great interview brother. Got to know alot

[@parvezsukhia6463]

Ayesha Siddiqa's replies and analysis appeared guarded and tactfully tailored for a mostly Pakistani audience.

[@thinkagain2229]

Wajahat is on fire

[@current_affairs885]

Well done my Pakistanis, you don't have to panic.