Are the Newer Model Butane Stoves Actually Better? - How to buy a good one!

In this video I wanted to see if I could make an older butane stove function more efficiently like the newer ones that are being sold on the market. Does the newer design actually make a difference? I show what I did, but any changes that you make are AT YOUR OWN RISK! My recommendation is that you just buy a new model with the upgrade shown in this video. They are not very expensive.
I like my butane camp stove for its convenience and how compact it is, but those 1lb butane bottles are so inefficient! When they are near empty, but not empty enough to throw them away, the flow of gas slows waaaaaay down so that all you get is a small flame! Some newer models of these stoves have a new feature that helps with this problem, but I show you the difference between the old and the new.
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[@Ra-zor]

Top tip, some of those stoves have exploded due to the canister overheating from using a wide frying pan which reflects the heat back to the canister causing an explosion and fire burning down your tent... Advise not to use anything that overhangs any part of the canister area!

[@gonagain]

Good warning. Never use too big of a pan that will spread the flame out to where it can heat the fuel bottle.

[@dungeonmastervenger]

Unfortunately, there will be some that will try this modification in an effort to extend the burn time while at the same time using an oversized pan to prepare more food specially in remote locations that will not have those bottles in stock at a loca Walmart. I would advise to include a warning at the beginning, end and the middle and a banner “At your own RISK” on this video.

[@alnwezeetwo6753]

@@dungeonmastervenger .

[@andrewmckinlay2964]

There are stoves that eject the cartridge when the pressure is too high, and cartridges that can eject themselves.

[@LRR-fr3xe]

Read all Instructions first. They actually warn about that.

[@homemaker4117]

Always good info. I think maybe you are a real Jack of all trades. Thankyou for sharing all your knowledge. The times we live in we can use all the tips and tricks we can get. Have a blessed weekend and give Linda a hug from us.

[@BillSprague]

From e-bikes to stoves to cargo van conversions. This channel has it all. Thanks!

[@SuzanneWho]

I ordered an Iwatani butane stove directly from Japan. It has the extra heat panel built in and the model I ordered has the butane section further away from the cooking area. So you can use bigger pans. Nice burner.

[@cillaloves2fish688]

I wanted one of those, but I waited and now it's up to 80 bucks when it used to be 55 just a few months ago...

[@SuzanneWho]

@@cillaloves2fish688 I bought it from an eBay supplier (from Japan) “Iwatani CB-EPR-1 Eco Premium Cassette Fu Gas powered Camping Stoves”. But they have gone up in price since I bought it. But there may be other Japanese sellers. ??? Amazon had a similar one but someone commented that the Japanese version was better and that he had used the original for years. This model also uses the butane more efficiently giving higher output per canister.

[@scottgorman7166]

@@cillaloves2fish688 if you have a fairly large Asian market close by take a look in that store they carry those types of stoves and are reasonably priced

[@cillaloves2fish688]

@@scottgorman7166 Thx, but they are about 10 - 12 btu's, I already have a few of those, no windbreaker whatsoever, so a good gust will blow them out.

[@CITAP1]

Tinkerers make the world go round... Did Edison or Tesla evey say, "I Can Just Run To The Store And Get One"? I think not! Keep up the good work there young man.

[@Techno_Nomadic]

Tech-Tip: pressurized liquid fuels like butane and propane must be able to boil to produce enough pressure to be forced through the plumbing and oriface so it can be burned. Much below about 45F and butane appliances like these stoves and cigarette lighters get rather cranky. As the fluid fuel boils due to pressure release, because you're channeling fuel vapor away for use, the temperature of the containment vessel will decrease. It's the same principle that allows air conditioners to work. If you don't provide external heat the temperature of the tank will drop so much that it will be too cold for the fuel to boil, right around 32F for butane.

[@Anonomush_oranges]

That is why I chose the dual fuel model. That way I could use propane in the cold weather.

[@Spartan-Of-Truth]

So THIS is why the low-flame occurs in cold temperatures!

[@hawong5379]

Thanks again sharing your wisdom and smart ideas with us. I am so jealous to Linda, she absolutely marrys a smart and handy gentleman

[@gonagain]

I need to make sure she sees your comment...

[@CharlesinGA]

For about $15 you can buy a torch that uses these same butane canisters, and they are a great way to start a campfire, and probably a good way to use up those nearly empty canisters.

[@gonagain]

That's a good idea too.

[@rogierius]

Message from the future: Yes, I have such a flamethrower to kickstart my camping wood stove.

[@gailwind4168]

I just came back from Utah where I had that same problem with the butane. Thanks for the video. I'll try cutting some flashing. Love that stove.

[@jannyholm8630]

hi rick - great information for heating up the butane canister - thanks! i'm going to try it on my on my older stoves. fyi - in case you might need another stove sometime and don't want to pay amazon prices - if you have an asian market in great falls, or you want to check one out on your travels, they sell gas-one stoves in two sizes - the large ones like your's are $18.99 and the small ones are a little more at $25.99. i paid $45 on amazon for a small one, and then a week after i found one at the asian grocery so much cheaper. they sell the butane for $1.25 a canister too, and if you buy a case you get four for free. i hope linda is doing much better now - hopefully walking without much pain. thanks again for the stove tips.

[@gonagain]

That's a very good tip on buying the stoves and fuel from an Asian store or outlet. These stoves are widely used in Asian countries.

[@bertkelly7650]

I just bought one 2 days ago. Looking at it, it's the old one. I'll use your recommendations when it starts to get empty. Thanks!

[@terryjohnson2093]

That is some good information. Since I found a place that sells the fuel for $1 a bottle I use my butane stove quite a bit now, this will help.

[@beautifuldreamer3991]

Where?

[@terryjohnson2093]

@@beautifuldreamer3991 In Orange County California. There is a huge dollar store at the south-east corner of Harbor and Chapman Ave. There is a Target and this place is to the right of that. I think Viva is the name. Many other dollar type stores carry them for $1.50 each in a 4 pack.

[@kennethwilson8633]

Thanks for doing the modification video I was one of the people asking you to now I have to see if I can do it. You definitely gave a good overview of how the plate works to heat the can so I think I should be able to do it. Love your videos and tips. Have fun traveling and stay safe.

[@gonagain]

Thank you, Kenneth, it was your comment that made me set the stove aside as a reminder to do this video.

[@petersparkie]

Oh the irony.!!! First off well presented, clear and precise description of the modification. The irony is that here in Australia 🇦🇺 there was an issue of a couple of cases of the propane tank becoming too hot and bursting. The main cause of this was using too large a pan that then deflected excessive heat on to the canister. All the “old” style stoves were removed from the market and a big scare campaign to stop people using them until the next generation was brought out onto the market. The next generation incorporated an over pressure protection to disconnect the vapour flow if the pressure goes above a certain level. Now the “frozen cans”. The stoves rely on gas “vapour” to burn 🔥. Below a certain temp the liquid propane will not vaporise. The pressure drop inside the propane canister drops to such a level it appears to freeze (just the same as a refrigerator works. That’s were the added “heat sink” helps to keep the propane vaporising to use up every last bit in the can. I hope this is useful. Happy camping 🏕 and stay safe and well

[@philiptong4978]

these are butane C4H10, not propane C3H8, the additional Carbon in the chain cause it to have different physical properties, boiling point, pressure, density, etc

[@debbiecurtis4021]

This is great. I was having a problem with the last dregs of gas in my cans.

[@DanPopeko]

I’m trying your idea right now. I have some Aluminum stock for air conditioning and I’m using that. It looks like it’s going to work just fine. Thanks again.

[@gonagain]

You betcha.

[@livesportsvideo]

I usually warm the gas can in some heated water from the kettle when the flame starts to diminish. Definately going to have a go at modding my stove. I use it daily as it's in my work van, saves me hundreds of pounds yearly on the cost of coffee, especially at the rate I drink it. Great video and explanation was insightful.

[@davidphelps7763]

Timely video!! I have had multiple stoves in the 7500 btu range without the heat sink., My remedy was usually warming the can in water or with my hands.. I had also thought of warming the can and then putting s piece of reflectix On the can.. Recently been considering buying a Iwatani stove in 15000btu range but read some of the burners meltdown., In the end I settled on a Eureka sprk 12500 btu with the heatsink in it.. I love this stove and the case that came with it seems very robust.. Something that everyone should remember is each can of fuel only had a value of so many btu’s.. If you have a powerful stove the fuel cylinder is not going to last as long as less powerful model unless you use at lower flame height.. Also, I buy my fuel at a restaurant supply store or Asian markets.. Usually half the price of a big box store.,

[@gonagain]

Thanks, David. The cases that come with most of these stoves don't last very long, so you did well. Now I know why this 15,000BTU stove has a brass burner!

[@1954shadow]

I don’t care who you are, that is ingenious, right there!

[@StillOnTheRun]

I really enjoyed this video, I often go out camping and have the freezing issue... by the end of the trip I have all these half empty bottles as i change them out quickly to keep cooking, I will try give this modification a go, see if that helps reduce the freezing.

[@tonyglasstv2685]

Did you ever measure the temperature of the extended plate that sits under canister? Thanks Tony from the UK

[@gonagain]

Only by touch and it usually just gets warm. Most of the newer stoves have this feature and I just wanted to do a before and after comparison.

[@badgerpa9]

Nice fix Rick.

[@danp6125]

great tip . i am going to order one as the old charcoal one i have just doesnt cut it anymore,

[@padude131]

You're a genius and it looks like gas one stole your idea! Great video! I just ordered this stove tonight.

[@alchemykitchen777]

Thanks, I have a little heater that uses these butane cans and after 10 minutes the gas can is too cold to work. I will have to give this a try

[@darellsunderlin4670]

I do have one of the first ones out , probably had it 10-15 yrs . I like using it out ice fishing so I'm going to try that ! Thanks . Hope Linda is healing up OK.

[@gonagain]

For cheap stoves they work pretty well, but you may have a problem making your stove work in the cold, due to the limits of butane, unless your ice fishing shack is warm enough. Linda is doing great and is getting around pretty good.

[@sachiperez]

absolutely worth doing! it will save you frustration, butane and give you something to do that is fun, cheap and useful. great video!

[@scottt4081]

Do you keep it in your vehicle during the summer? If so, do you have any concerns about the butane canisters in a hot vehicle.

[@gonagain]

For sure I wouldn't leave a canister in the sun, but as long as you put it in a cool place, like down low on the floor and covered with something, then I think it would be alright.

[@liberalrationalist8905]

One problem with butane is in cold weather (below 40 degrees) butane won't flow sufficiently...but propane (so I've been told) will. There is a steak dish (steak au poivre) that creates too much smoke...got to make this outside because I live in an apartment. No outside exhaust.

[@gonagain]

I had to look that recipe up and now I'm hungry!

[@STEALTH-OUTDOORS]

interesting video, I usually rotate 2 cans and put the cold one inside my jacket to warm up, it does get cold here in the UK and it is an issue. I'm going to modify mine. thanks for the video 👍

[@SnowyAspenHills]

Interesting, my first visit to your channel I will be checking out some more videos for sure. When there is a pot or frying pan on the stove more heat should be directed towards the canister I would have thought, this is an interesting modification though and one I would carry out if I start using this kind of stove again.

[@gonagain]

Your actually not supposed to use wide frying pans and overly large pots on these stoves, but all that is in the instruction manual.

[@cotter9751]

I've been looking forward to this offering!

[@Steve-Goff]

I have one of the older Gas One models and that has always annoyed me. I never thought about heating up the can. I usually just throw away the can when it gets to that point. I wonder if some of those HotHands would work on the outside of the can. Obviously on the side away from the burner

[@gonagain]

They would, but the cost would negate any gain. The other day, using an unmodified stove, I just placed my hand on the bottle and that was enough to get it working great. I boiled water for coffee twice on that almost empty bottle by doing that. So modifying one does work to get the last bit of fuel out.

[@johnmisrahi9922]

@@gonagain I have used a Hand warmer before, while it isn't cost effective, I was in a situation where I had many Hand warmers, but a very limited supply of the fuel and needed to squeeze out every drop. But , I'm going to modify one of my stoves with your improvement, that looks ideal!

[@wandacraig8286]

Pretty ingenious on your part Rick. I wouldn't have ever thought to do something like that. I don't currently have a butane stove but would like to get one at some point. Have always just had a campfire, but a little butane burner like that would be great if there were fire restrictions. And I would prefer butane to propane.

[@philiptong4978]

just get one of outdoor stove that accepts multi fuel, they all have builtin preheat tube to vapourize liquid or liquified compressed gas

[@wandacraig8286]

@@philiptong4978 thanks. However, I prefer the small one burner butane as that way I can cook indoors in my minivan as well as outdoors on a table. The rest of the time I prefer a fire pit to cook over. But that's a great idea and probably more reasonable.

[@philiptong4978]

something like this, there are other brands kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHTUe317mLGdm80 such EN417 canister usually contains a mixture of propane and iso-butane to provide low temperature vapour pressure in between its constituents

[@nancyst.john-smith3891]

@@wandacraig8286 I cook inside my e350 van on the older model GasOne butane stove and love it. Simple dishes with short cooking times, usually. Last year I made huckleberry jam and water bath canned it using my butane stove in a campground in Idaho. It was a fun trip!

[@pauls466]

Great idea ,sir , we use those a lot and always have to throw away a quarter of the tank

[@scenicdriveways6708]

That's a great mod Rick, I don't have a stove like that, but I'm thinking I should get one. JT

[@gonagain]

They're pretty handy for when we want to cook inside the trailer due to weather conditions. And, unlike the propane burners, this one will let you simmer if you need to.

[@kisbushcraftdownunder]

I use one of these stoves in Australia and am lucky that the slow down only happens a couple of months a year due to our warm temperatures when it does I open the cover and pour hot water 💦 on the cylinder great modification though regards mike

[@scottgorman7166]

Very slick my man, I guess we're going to start calling you Gonagiever

[@joebloe1152]

Thanks Buddy, I have an older one of these stoves and have been wondering how to keep the gas bottle from getting so cold.

[@gonagain]

Glad it helped you, Joe bloe.

[@catpurrson3651]

As usual, that was interesting and fun. You come up with the coolest demos!

[@stephenm8100]

Personally I prefer the older whit gas stove. You don't have to mess around with the canisters. Fill it once and that's enough for a 5 day campout..... And a lot of people buy those stoves and have no idea how to put them together or light them.

[@rayadelic4327]

Hey thanks heaps, I’ve always had trouble with them freezing over during the mornings at camp, they all shut off. most annoying I will try this right now!

[@vincenzodemarco7983]

Good Morning Rick. Well done & Very Clever. I actually never gave it a second thought thinking the can of fuel was empty. I have two of these exact stoves and they are the best. Thanks for being the 'Wizard' that you are, Really smart stuff. 🎯 👏👏👏👏👏 God Bless and please say Hello to Linda for me.👋

[@gonagain]

Hello Eric, the price of that fuel has gone through the roof! I did manage to find a deal on Ebay for a dozen cans this morning for $35 delivered, but that was a lucky find I think.

[@vincenzodemarco7983]

@@gonagain Thank You so much for the heads-up. I guess we are all in this together for the long haul. I wonder if we will ever see fuel prices drop back down to a decent price? Yikes. We keep hearing the Opposite. New World Order, Right??? Not Good at all. Keep the Faith. 🤲

[@arlienelson1609]

I will be trying your idea in my stove . I basically like my butane stove except when it's cold out. If it is close to freezing or colder the butane hardly works at all. It was a pain to wake up on cold mornings and have hardly any flame for making coffee. I car camp a lot. For Feb and March I was in Arizona. There were a few cold mornings. I started putting the canister in my bedding inside my car at night when I knew the morning would be cold. I also need a wind screen.

[@gonagain]

I understand completely! Have you seen what I did to make a single burner propane stove more user friendly? It's what we use as our main stove when we are traveling: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6CYeaqhjJekrrc

[@wilreyes195]

Great information, when I watched your video first thing I did was go over to my little stove and see if I had that tray in there or not lol.

[@wrbruce6100]

Good idea on that stove. How lone do the bottles last. Good to see another video my friend. You take care.

[@gonagain]

You made me do math and now my head hurts! A pound of butane contains about 21,000 BTUs and these are 8oz cans, so figure about 10,500 BTUs in a can. Most of these stoves burn 7,500 per hour on high so you would get about an hour and a half per 8 oz. can of butane.

[@stusrambles]

Super useful information! I was certain my stove had a fault as it just seemed to die after 10 minutes trying to boil a pot of water outside in very cold conditions. You've taught me a few things.

[@dvig3261]

Good idea, supported by the fact that the manufacturer did the same thing. I must say though, that freezing nozzle isn't really the issue. The drop in pressure causes the drop in temperature and the drop in temperature causes a drop in pressure...a viscous cycle. Propane is a little less susceptible to that than butane is. You can buy butane/propane mixes just for that reason. It is quite remarkable how much the temperature of a gas affects the pressure.

[@gonagain]

Great point! Thanks.

[@Ummo2850]

Thank you kind sir. Definitely going to try. So expensive the cartridge bottle and I’ve noticed they feel half or quarter full when the flame dies down. Rather crazy. Hope we have some out there who will tinker to find an exact fix to at least get the most out of it. Either that or the gas filler manufacturer should come up with a solution. 🙏

[@gonagain]

The newer ones have that.

[@truthalwayswins3078]

Well, I've learnt something today. I use one of those with the same problem.

[@karldias1415]

Good job sir. I myself spend an inordinate a a amount of time fixing things that i should replace just to keep them out of the landfill but hey it makes me happy.

[@gonagain]

Yes, I agree on that!

[@jeffreygraf3358]

Will definitely put your tip to use at deer camp. Thanks Rick!

[@gonagain]

You're welcome, Jeffrey!

[@mr.145]

An adapter can be used to get the left over gas out of these cans, into smaller backpacking canisters.

[@gdjdorai9497]

You are really good engineer, Rick!

[@gonagain]

Thanks, Dorai. We hope to see you this summer sometime.

[@adventurefuel5172]

Great solution! I had a similar problem with my little buddy heater when winter camping. The single pounders would frost up. I switched to a little 5 pound refillable. I’m lucky, I have a newer one with that piece built in.

[@cutterboard4144]

Funny thing is, i bougt such a stove (Campingaz Bistro DLX) in 2022, and though it seems to have notches and slots in the metal sheets to support such a gas can "heater", it doesnt have one. wtf?

[@davefrysinger8445]

More great info, thanks. Bought the Oupes 600 for trailer. Powers fan (on low), Bodega 50 fridge & lights for about 32 hours straight( on test). Thanks for the info on this great unit.

[@CoViN88]

one cold morning near the badlands of south dakota, it took me over an hour to cook some bacon on one of these. the bottle was all frosty.

[@gonagain]

That doesn't sound like it was fun.

[@lucus4485]

I use an one burner coleman gas stove. Works in any kind of temperature. One gallon of camp gas now runs $13.99 or you can use unlead gas.

[@philiptong4978]

every liquid fuel stove for the outdoor has a preheat tube to vapourize fuel before mixing with air, similar design also works for compressed gas

[@michaelyiannett4515]

With the cooker with the moving platform could you fix the heating plate to the side and have a floating platform?

[@gonagain]

Not sure about that but most of the newer stoves have the warm plate installed.

[@thetruthpost9693]

Genius! (This was Linda's idea right?)

[@TheDIDSBIAK]

your design can also be used on the model with the slide. Just let the aluminium plate rest on the slide. The slide will still move the cannister while it rest on the plate.

[@Hangs4Fun]

This butane can warming hack is something my several year old Iwantani 35FW has. It's was a tad pricey but has lasted a long time, runs at 15k btu, has a magnetic seal for the tank connection, wind deflectors built in, and can get my wok up to temp fast. I believe it was made in Japan

[@gonagain]

Thanks for that info. My hack was just to show that it works, but I suggest that folks just buy a newer stove that has it built in already. They're not very expensive anymore.

[@keithmcgarrigle8921]

In the UK you can buy gas canisters with 70% butaine, and 30% propane. Because propane freezes at a lower temperature, the gas still flow when it's cold? Like your channel.

[@gonagain]

That's a good thing to have, I don't think I've ever seen that mix here.

[@ashingone8483]

I bought that new 3900 gas one and love it. Good stuff 👍

[@jamesrichardson1326]

Great video Rick. Just curious, how do you and Linda generally make your coffee when camping?

[@gonagain]

Hello James, we just happened to do a video about that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2i8e5WCgcp1iZY

[@maxboonkittypoison]

Nice upgrade. But wat happens with the bottle after you shut it down? The metal plate is still hot but the bottle issn't cooling it self anymore. How hot wil it become when you leaf the bottle inthe stove? You took it out after shut down. But i newer take the bottle out.

[@gonagain]

Hello Kitty, the metal plate never gets hot, only warm.

[@gonagain]

The modification I've shown in the video will only allow a small amount of heat to reach the bottle to warm it slightly. A word of caution concerning the use of these stoves! Always follow the instructions and the most important instruction is to NEVER use a pan that extends over the butane fuel bottle (or can). This can cause the can to overheat and explode. The price of 8oz. cans of butane for these stoves has gone through the roof along with all other types of fuel. I just bought 12 cans off of Ebay for $35.00 including shipping so search around a little for the best deals. Try this outlet for fuel: www.webstaurantstore.com/search/butane-fuel.html 03/25/2022

[@SuzanneWho]

I’ve been told that you can buy the butane cans at Asian grocers for a much lower price. Unfortunately, I have no access to that in my area😢

[@secondact7151]

If they don't have blue on the rim they can explode so be mindful of pot size.

[@SuzanneWho]

@@secondact7151 I think there’s a certification mark you need to have on the can? Don’t remember the acronym. 😁 Also, the pan shouldn’t overlap the canister section. I haven’t even been able to test my Iwatani since I can’t find butane here.

[@secondact7151]

@@SuzanneWho guess how I figured out the max pan size? I put my folding Coleman oven on my butane burner. It was close to exploding, so I thought hmmm, I wonder if that is a bad idea.

[@SuzanneWho]

@@secondact7151 😎👍🏻

[@Robin-kf1yz]

I’m going to try this with my older propane burner. My sister gave me a newer model this past Christmas that has the fancier features. Ok, I have a question. Probably 2 years ago you did a video that talked about your then sleeping arrangements in the trailer. You were using a cot that I believe you called a roll cot. Would you still recommend this cot? I’m in the market for a new cot and I’m considering this cot. Thanks for the advice.

[@philiptong4978]

consider propane boils at -42C instead of ~0C for straight butane, unless gas container is cold enough, preheating gas line or container would not be necessary for stove cooking, unless your goal is higher pressure (before the regulator)

[@gonagain]

The Roll-a-Cot worked so well for us that after building our bunks in the trailer, we took them to our off-grid cabin and used them there. Be sure to put down an air mattress/pad and you'll be very comfortable.

[@nancyst.john-smith3891]

Some great things about the Roll-a-cot: one, the bed is a plastic mesh. We used to take ours on canoe trips in Alaska because they are easy to rinse off and dry. Sand or water doesn’t damage them. I now have a van to camp in and have put my Roll-a-cot in it. A 5” memory foam cot mattress makes it feel like a regular bed. Also, most camp cots have 3 sets of legs under them. The Roll-a-cot has only 2 sets of legs, one on each end, so stowing bins and bags under them is so easy. Their height is also convenient and comfortable for sitting. I sit on the foot of my bed and cook my morning coffee and other meals on my butane stove which is on a wooden box my husband made. The cots are also extremely durable. I have dragged mine thousands of miles and camped in a dozen states and they are no worse for the wear. I can’t recommend them enough. They are 30” wide so that is the same as one half of a queen size bed which is all I need to be comfy!

[@Robin-kf1yz]

@@nancyst.john-smith3891 thank you Nancy for your remarks. Robin

[@toxophilite1953]

Thanks for the tip! I have the stove you do and had noticed that little issue on my stoves but didn’t know what to do. I’ll fix mine! Thanks again!

[@NewHampshireJack]

We stock several quality brands in our emergency supplies from Korea, and Japan, and one manufactured right here in the Philippines where I am a semi-retired EX-pat. Most came with the heater strip and the one that did not has a conveniently open slit in the perfect spot to do an install. We generally purchase the 2 in 1 variant that is supplied with a hose barb that will screw into the side of the metering valve system and allow the use of our standard 11-kilo cooking gas cylinders to fuel the stove. Beautiful Bride has learned to cook up some great meals over the campfire and my assortment of camp stoves. We like the cassette stoves for emergency use indoors. My Mother-in-law is a non-camper and non-prepper so these stoves are a wonderful emergency tool for her. They are almost like cooking inside, on her kitchen range but they can be used almost anywhere. We also encourage Beautiful Daughter to practice cooking on these units in case she needs that skill away at college in a few years.

[@gonagain]

Another thing we like about them is their ability to simmer at a very low setting. Something that isn't possible with our regular propane camp stove. Phillipino food is by far my favorite and I ate a lot of it in Hawaii during the years that we lived there. I had my favorite restaurants and hole-in-the-wall places that we would go to.

[@secondact7151]

Also if using at lower elevation don't assume it is empty. Those cans will be good for one more use when going up in elevation. Also don't use the click start. Wastes a lot of fuel , use a lighter for instant instead of losing gas the whole time you are turning the knob. Always disengage the can manually. Don't rely on the stove to do it. I've had one drain a can. I've also had one still lit even with all the safeties.

[@gonagain]

Great points! I'll try using a lighter next time.

[@exploringnext1111]

I see your Bluetti there. I just ordered one on 3/09 a EB55 but didn't receive it although they charged my card right away (3/25 I still do NOT have it)....heads up, you can't call anyone, they do not respond to emails. Can't contact tech support...there IS NO SUPPORT. I found the "community chat" through Google, someone there got through to someone at Bluetti who sent me an email message to be patient? That's customer support? When $1000 is charged but you can't find out where your purchase is, speak to anyone, get support, not even told when to expect it....HEADS UP....promoting the product.

[@gonagain]

Did you buy your Bluetti through Amazon? If you did, then you need to go directly back to Amazon. If you bought it from Bluetti then it will take longer for it to arrive. Communication is harder because of the language barrier and sometimes what they say doesn't seem quite right. They just came out with the new "S" series ( EB55S and EB70S) and I know that they are backlogged because of that. Did you get a tracking number yet?

[@exploringnext1111]

@@gonagain no I bought it directly from Bluetti. I am concerned for support for the product. For something that expensive you can't contact anyone. Try calling their numbers. Amazon isn't going to help with warranty. I'll wait to see what happens. I'm on the road in 3 weeks so crossing my fingers something shows up. You can't even speak to tech support. I wish I would have gone with another Jackery, I have a 500. I was adding more.

[@dpulte]

i have a 15,000 BTU sterno brand which appears identical to this gas one. my problem is starting and running when camping and it's pretty cold. had to revert to a coleman propane stove, but would prefer using butane for a variety of reasons.

[@gonagain]

I understand that, because we are the same. We mostly use propane but pull this stove out when we have to cook inside the trailer due to weather. We like it because it's compact and very stable.

[@denhan5713]

I would like to see a test in colder temps!

[@gonagain]

Butane doesn't work very well at all in colder temperatures and I think the limit is 32 degrees. That's why I like that they're putting a bottle warming feature on some of the newer stoves.

[@chrissmith1521]

You called a butane canister propane at 1:25

[@JBF-GST-Tanda]

It might be hard to find the balance to get just enough heat for the liquified gas to evaporate and not blowing the canister up due to overheating.

[@gonagain]

The canister only needs to be warmed slightly. The purpose of the video was to show that it works, but the price of the stove itself is so reasonable that I suggest just buying one that already has the warmer installed.

[@hueypilot1950]

Slightly off topic but..... I had a similar stove that only ran hot or very hot. It wouldn't run low when I wanted to simmer wat I was cooking. With so many stoves as you have, have you experienced trying to throttle back the flame? which brands would throttle back? I tossed out mine when it leaked gas where it connected to the bottle. I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

[@gonagain]

Our propane stoves don't throttle back very well, but we put a flame diffuser (amzn.to/3rdVsJF) under the pan to help simmer. These butane stoves are perfect for simmering and that's why so many Asian restaurants use them at your table.

[@lynpatnat]

Simple ideas are always the best. What a great idea.

[@gonagain]

Thank you! 😊

[@clarasmith1873]

Any ideas about a common complaint the the stoves cook too hot and you can't adjust them to simmer?

[@gonagain]

The propane stoves won't adjust down low enough to simmer. On our propane burner, we use a heat diffuser which helps. The butane burner stoves will adjust so you can simmer.

[@SuperLaplander]

Thank you sir! Im having trouble finding the butane containers for the stove, sold out here in Sweden. Might be a good idea to buy a few extra when possible.

[@gonagain]

Try looking for Asian restaurant supply stores online. They're the least expensive because they use these stoves the most.

[@SuperLaplander]

@@gonagain Thank you dear sir, I will try that.

[@Blackhorseveteran]

Thanks for the tip !! Good modification for winter camping..although I usually switch to propane in winter, it would be interesting to see the difference.

[@gonagain]

Hello Pete, cold ambient temps will still be a problem until that plate gets warmed up, but it should help with that too.

[@asd67lkj]

Did you check the gas consumption on the newer stove compared to the older stove? I imagine the 15,000 BTU stove would be using a lot more gas to produce that heat?

[@gonagain]

Oh yeah, it will use the fuel twice as fast, but we just turn it down so that the flame doesn't extend out past the bottom of the pot, which wastes gas.

[@moretoexplore6736]

As always very helpful, thank you so much!

[@garys5540]

What a thorough review! Thank you sir!

[@deaconx55]

I have a new heater that has the same bottle geometry. It works fine for a while then goes out .will the same modification work for me do you think ?

[@gonagain]

I wouldn't know without seeing the heater.

[@brrymcgolly]

I had one of them little stove and I put the gas bottle in? And then it wouldn't ignite so I tried a long match and I all set alight on the fire I managed to throw it in the garden and it exploded?

[@gonagain]

You have to be very careful that the gas bottle is inserted correctly or that can happen.

[@SantaSirGlennDrHeald]

Do the two type of fuels require an orifice change?

[@gonagain]

No, it doesn't, and it comes with its own hose and attachment for using with propane.

[@tgfcujhb7583]

Good work, it's always hard to get last of the gas on a cold morning 👍👍👍👍🔥

[@peem1244]

Hi Rick, hope you're keeping well. I can't remember how I discovered this, probably a fluke, but when my stove gets down to the last dregs of gas, and if it's on a flat surface, I hold the front corners of the stove and shuffle it around. The flame really perks up as long as you keep moving the stove around. Technically, I have no idea what's happening so I can't explain. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe and keep up the good work.

[@gonagain]

Good tip, Pedro, I'm going to try that.

[@TR4zest]

That is a bit like shaking a cigarette lighter to get it to light one last cigarette before it dies. I guess the agitation causes more vaporisation.

[@DanPopeko]

Great information. Thanks

[@TR1S10WERTZ]

Do you know the hose used to connect to a big setup I'm trying to boil oil outside and always running out of butane

[@gonagain]

Some of these stoves come with the adaptor but we don't know which ones do.

[@yourpotential3474]

does warming up this butan canister safe ? woudn't it explode ?

[@gonagain]

The newer stoves have that feature.

[@surfing4theloveofit]

Great video, just wondering 🤔 what temperature is dangerous for these butane bottles? Rick

[@gonagain]

I know they'll withstand being in the sun or in a hot car. The modification that I did, and that some of the new stoves come with, only warms the bottle and keeps the bottle from freezing up. The one thing that's dangerous is to put a large diameter pan on top that directs the flame over the bottle. That will definitely cause an explosion. The stoves manual cautions against that.

[@surfing4theloveofit]

Thanks for that 😃

[@James-wd9ib]

I'd do this in the wintertime... kinda scary in hot weather

[@ChristopherLuna-m2k]

Great Video!! in your opinion are the Brass burner models any better than the Aluminum burner models?....Also where did you get your All American stove?, I really like the color combination but are unable to find them?...Thank You

[@3jhe]

Thank you for this very practical course! You're an excellent professor!

[@stanleyhui2173]

Thanks for sharing the good tips

[@gonagain]

You bet!

[@stephenm8100]

Are there any butane stoves you would say are totally garbage? On camp outs I have put a far few together for people. And have come across some that were junk.

[@gonagain]

Hello Stephan, I not really the one to ask, but my three stoves, even though they are inexpensive, all seem to work well. We only use ours when we have to cook inside the trailer because of weather and like it because it's stable and can't tip over. Outside we use a single burner propane stove.

[@nancyst.john-smith3891]

@@gonagain Rick, I was wondering if you were going to come up with a way to build one of these stoves in to your cooking surface like the outside stove. But you’re right, they’re so stable you don’t really need to. I used to use a Jet Boil but the Gas One is superior in every way, except weight. Now that I’m car camping instead of backpacking (I’m old!) the weight doesn’t matter. Thanks for your videos!! My best to Linda.

[@3generations393]

Interesting Rick but a minute too late for me. I bought a Gas One dual fuel from Amazon last month. I am coming to the end of my first can of butane- I checked and my stove does not have the butane can warmer built in 🤔