Are The Shadow Animatronics EVIL? | FNAF Theory

[@RyeToast]

Thanks again to Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring today’s video! Go check them out at www.forthepeople.com/RyeToast What do you think the shadow animatronics are? Want to join a growing horror gaming community? Click here! bit.ly/3bD1O0c Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:42 What do we know about Shadow Freddy and Bonnie? 05:10 Morgan and Morgan ad 06:15 What can we speculate about Shadow Freddy and Bonnie? 14:04 Do the actions of the shadows help determine who they are? 16:11 What are the shadow animatronics in FNAF? 18:05 Recap and Extra Notes

[@TechedCannon]

Genuine question here, not related to FnaF but I might go insane if I don’t get an answer soon… Are you actually sponsored by Morgan & Morgan? Or is it just some kind of inside joke…

[@lindarabot426]

although monty has anger issues he couldnt have destroyed any animatronics. here are all the reasons why 1 he wasnt strong enough at the time Sure monty is the strongest animatronic but the claw upgrade is what lets him destroy everything. However monty only got the claw upgrade after bonnie was decommissioned so he didn’t have the strength to do so (if anything bonnie could have killed monty due to having claws) 2 He had no issues with the other animatronics during this time Monty is clearly aggressive and loves to take his anger out on stuff. But all of this happened after bonnie disappeard think there was no mention of monty being aggressive before he got the claw upgrade it really makes you wonder why is he so aggressive. 3 It didn’t make sense You know if monty wanted to be the star he could have just gone for freddy but he still wasn’t strong enough at the time to have killed any animatronic. And wouldn’t monty be the main suspect? if he was smart enough to know he’d replace bonnie he wouldn’t have done it in monty golf it would make him look to suspicious. 4 he never wanted to replace bonnie I know what your gonna say. But remember. Monty skips the show’s so he can go to monty golf. Why? Well the reason why monty hates freddy is because he gets all the spotlight but back in monty golf monty had his own stage and got to sing his and perform as a solo.so why would he kill bonnie to be downgraded from lead singer in monty golf to bassist of the atrium. Maybe he gos to monty golf as a coping method I mean roxy uses the mirror to boost her ego. And monty wants to feel more at home in his golf course. but as for the burntrap theory NONE OF BONNIES PARTS ARE IN BURNTRAP! look at burntrap and compare him to the glamrock endo there are 4 toes on burntrap and 3 on glamrocks, the shoulders arnt braud enoguh and please tell matpat this "count the dam fingers on burntraps claws" there are 5 claws on burntrap and 4 on EVERY OTHER GLAMROCK ENDO! even DJ MUSIC MAN! how has no one talked about this! my point is what really happened to bonnie? none of us will know with the info we have i think we will have to wait for the dlc too figure this out

[@lindarabot426]

SHORTENED VERSION! i think you are spot on with foxy but there is a MASSIVE flaw with the bonnie theory! to start monty couldnt have destroyed bonnie even if he tried because monty didnt have the claw upgrade at the time because he got the claws AFTER bonnie disappeared. if anything bonnie could have destroyed monty if he wanted too but didnt because he is a good bunny. and while i think it could have been more likely for vanny to have used like 20 staff bots to rip apart bonnie and use him for burntrap BUT NONE OF BONNIES PARTS ARE IN BURNTRAP! look at burntrap and compare him to the glamrock endo there are 4 toes on burntrap and 3 on glamrocks, the shoulders arnt braud enoguh and please tell matpat this "count the dam fingers on burntraps claws" there are 5 claws on burntrap and 4 on EVERY OTHER GLAMROCK ENDO! even DJ MUSIC MAN! how has no one talked about this! my point is what really happened to bonnie? none of us will know with the info we have i think we will have to wait for the dlc too figure this out

[@ghostyturn4988]

4😢 i8m ds tinx😊

[@holykebabempire]

I swear this is the only fnaf channel that you can watch at 3am without the fear of getting jumpscared

[@RyeToast]

I try to make sure I specify when I play a jumpscare if I ever do, and most of the time it's without sound

[@luceharrietf]

@@RyeToast !!! this is so appreciated Rye! I’m currently living on the other side of the country for 3 weeks lol, doing a hospital intensive severe pain management programme. And I love that back in my hotel i can chuck your videos on the giant TV (not used to having that either) and watch when i can’t sleep!!

[@RushyoTakha]

@@RyeToast this earns a sub. I hate jumpscares when I'm trying to chill with theories :)

[@TheGrossDemon]

One of my least favorite parts of watching FNAF videos is how people love shoving every jump scare and loud sound they can into their videos. So it's always nice to watch a fnaf video that isn't like playing the game lol. Espectually since I'm always looking for videos to watch when I'm falling asleep

[@ystacalden]

as I an watching at 4:30AM, I am deeply appreciating this currently

[@FTZPLTC]

It's interesting that the roles of Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie kind of match the desires of Henry (protector) and William (aggressor).

[@RyeToast]

This dynamic shows up a lot in FNAF to be honest

[@bathilra5364]

@@RyeToastyeah same with thier children both posses and non because even if babys prorgming over power elizibiths soul she did commit murder

[@bathilra5364]

But why would Henry be a bunny when williams fursona has always been the rabbit

[@hanssvacina9323]

Or Michael and William, possibly

[@alexrivers8163]

Wait can you be jump scared while shadow Bonnie is on screen in fnaf 2?

[@charscreamAA]

So S. Bonnie is actually implied to at least be good because it's stoping you from giving Afton remnant. In AR Afton's hacked the system and is basically making you collect remnant. So at least Bonnie has the intention of getting in Williams way. Considering the fact that people constantly confuse Michael for William I actually think that may be why they go against you they think that Michael is William so they're trying to stop you. I actually think that could be why by FNAF 3 they aren't doing anything negative they've realized you aren't William so don't have any issues with you. Honestly given the fact shadow Freddy is a reskin I wouldn't be shocked if shadow Bonnie is only you Bonnie because withered Bonnie was way too unrecognizable/too withered to be recognizable if it were to look like shadow bonnie Something odd about the security breach cutout is how hidden it is in the game like you have to hunt it out. If I remember correctly it is incredibly hidden off the path and locked behind a gate

[@RyeToast]

I'm pretty sure the one I'm thinking about was actually right in the open in Rockstar row, with the other cutouts. The rest of your points are very good

[@charscreamAA]

@@RyeToast i maybe confusing Shadow Bonnies cutout with Nightmarion's cut out on that one

[@tangytoucan9832]

William afton is a roblox hacker who needs my credit card and social security number.

[@alexrivers8163]

What if purple guy isn't bad and is actually the good guy but somehow like agony being really good materializes an entity just like agony does for wickedness

[@loxfr1751]

I don't think they're attacking or doing something negative to Michael cause they only crashes the game

[@Vinesus]

It’s worth noting that Nightmare’s original name (in the game files) is “Shadow Freddy.” Probably doesn’t mean much, but it’s interesting nonetheless.

[@RyeToast]

Is it? Interesting

[@Wendy_OKoopa]

You know, maybe this COULD mean something important. Even if it isn't that's still really interesting.

[@MeemahSN]

@@brandoncheever1897I’d imagine the names were swapped

[@friki1282]

I really believe shadow Freddy is Nightmare and both are the child from fnaf 4. Nightmare represents it's death and transformation, I don't have to argue if he died with agony or not, it's pretty obvious. And he knows what his father did as it is implied that he saw Baby kill his sister and that was the reason he was so scared of them.

[@Jann75]

Granted Golden Freddy's name in the game is "yellow bear"

[@Memescave.]

2:33 in all of the minigames, they werent all giving cake to the crying child, but they were giving to the other muders, so they can gather around together to their happiest day instead of being lost. an example is gabriel, jeremy, susie, etc.

[@RyeToast]

Yeah never thought about that before

[@Mr_Yeet123]

@@RyeToast If you enter Happiest Day before giving cake to each children, you can see them slowly gathering. Like if you havent found any kids yet, non of the four will be there, but if you get two, you'll see two kids there, and so on

[@jpnagaming7716]

I’ve always wondered about those two, finally someone else talks about it

[@RyeToast]

I think hyperdroid made a video on it too, I'll have to check that out at some point!

[@boston6236]

The reason it says he gives cake to one of the children is probably trying to say that each minigame helps another one of the MCI kids move on, eventually they help Evan as hes the last one remaining

[@RyeToast]

Yeah just never thought about it that way. I always kind of assumed all the missing children were being each of the different characters we play as, but that also makes a lot of sense

[@tomasns6584]

@@RyeToast i assume that the cahracters we play as are other spirits, that thanks to the puppet were guided to set up happiest day! also, i think that connects back to fnaf world since we are setting up michael finding the hints to help on happiest day in fnaf 3 (in my opinion).

[@reneethefox4797]

Yep, for each kid you give cake to, another kid shows up wearing a mask in Happiest Day. I kinda interpreted it as the minigames are meant to represent the kids who haunt the toys and the kids who haunt the OGs all coming together. Of course, the lack of toy freddy in the minigames is a hole in the theory that I've never been able to reconcile (It could be related to another theory that Toy Freddy is haunted by one of the kids who killed Evan, but I might be reading too much into it.) Actually, speaking of those minigames and shadow animatronics: Shadow BB, Shadow Puppet, and Shadow Cupcake all appear in those minigames and then never make another appearance in the franchise.

[@whitefang1657]

@@RyeToast Each give cake minigame directly correlates with a child's presence in happiest day. If you do not complete one of the minigames then one of the core four children will not be there for the happiest day and you won't be able to complete it. The first time I completed fnaf 3 I only found 2 of the minigames so there were only two of the core four childen in happiest day.

[@nachosp7882]

@@reneethefox4797 i ve never seen shadow puppet ,BB and cupcake..... where did they appear

[@the_godbodor7026]

I don’t know why, but I’ve always liked the Shadow duo and was kinda sad they were just…there. And then they were gone, only for RXQ to come back for AR which personally, made me quite happy

[@RyeToast]

I want more of them

[@the_godbodor7026]

@RyeToast Doubt it will happen, but I’m hoping maybe in the Ruin dlc

[@authorlacey]

I could see Shadow Freddy being the agony of all 5 of the missing children of FNAF 1, while Shadow Bonnie being the agony of all 5 of the missing children of FNAF 2. It would match the models of their respective locations. A classic model and a toy model.

[@NingyoTheInkling]

I have a similar theory, just the other way around, Shadow Bonnie being the Agony of the MCI victims and Shadow Freddy being the agony of the Save Them victims. I know it sounds weird because Shadow Freddy is based on Withered Golden Freddy and Shadow Bonnie is based on Toy Bonnie, but I think that because the suit used by William in the MCI was Spring Bonnie, a rabbit animatronic. In Save Them however, it seems likely that the suit he used was Fredbear, because Spring Bonnie was in the safe room of the old location at the time, and a drawing in the FNaF 2 office show Golden Freddy luring a child.

[@witherd5733]

I always thought Shadow Freddy was used as a lure to lead the animatronics to William. All the normal animatronics weren't programmed to go into the safe room, but Shadow Freddy was, almost as if it was intentional.

[@RyeToast]

I thought so too, but the Freddy Files seem to disagree

[@PersonianOld]

@@RyeToast This entire series disagrees with itself sometimes lol

[@thecreativeducky5781]

@@PersonianOld I also disagree with the series

[@tubegerm6732]

that is exactly what ffps's insanity ending heavily implies. and i'd take what the games themselves say over a book with canonicity that's iffy at best any day.

[@keith5461]

@@thecreativeducky5781i also series with the disagree

[@nicouwu4416]

I've been recently intrigued by the scrap baby dialod during the true ending of ffps "A gift for us" "all those little souls in one place" it kinda sounds like the happiest day doesn't it? Gifts? Souls in the same place? It couldn't be anything else. and then there's her wanting to make william proud. For me it sounds like it's her condition of setting Elizabeth's soul free, her last wish, just like the last wish of the victims was to have a birthday party

[@Softie.uwu13]

His sponsor segments having lore is probably one of the greatest things ever 😭😭😭

[@RyeToast]

I'm glad you like it! Gotta keep em interesting after all

[@anthonyramirez7586]

Dude it’s an ARG that’s dope

[@oras7745]

This is actually a pretty interesting theory and the supporting arguments seem rather strong. The only thing thats bugging me is why Charlie's agony being would take the form of Toy Bonnie (or Bonnie in general) since the Puppet and (Toy) Bonnie don't seem to have any direct connection that would justify that. At least not to my knowledge.

[@RyeToast]

Yeah, that's where I'm stuck too lol

[@HizuiSneazel]

Maybe Bonnie was Charlie's favorite animatronic before she was killed?

[@Takejiro24]

@@HizuiSneazel I just looked up an image of Charlie taken from the Freddy Files and it's one of her carrying a toy of Bonnie.

[@oras7745]

@@HizuiSneazel You know, that could very well be, especially given what EphemeralSean said.

[@lunabruce1804]

@@Takejiro24 If you're talking about the section about the novels, the toy she's holding is Theodore! It's a toy her dad made her when she was little that plays a recording of Henry saying "I love you Charlie". Her other toys was a doll named Ella, and a unicorn named Stanley, who also have art of them in the book!

[@Marshmo]

I always loved the Shadow's designs, as it was a big part of the lore back in the day

[@RyeToast]

Me too

[@the_godbodor7026]

I honestly love this theory. It gives a solid reason for the Shadows to exist, it makes their actions seem less random, and tbh it’s kinda cool looking at FNaF World movesets to get an idea on personalities.

[@sariaswoods]

I really like this theory! It makes a lot of narrative sense, the only real “problem” I have is why Charlie would be represented by Bonnie when she has always been represented by the Marionette in past incarnations. (Cassidy possesses a variant of Freddy so her appearing as Freddy makes sense to me)

[@GhostRose6500]

I always believed the Shadow creatures were the employees that made a mistake when taking off the suits and got spring locked at the diner. Because it could answer a question people have been asking for a long time: why is the crying child afraid of the animatronics? He could have witnessed this incident, more specifically the Fredbear one since he is more afraid of that animatronic than the others, and the Shadow Bonnie one may have already happened or it happened later on, though the Crying Child just wasn’t around to see it. It would also explain Nightmare himself, in the game files of Fnaf 2 Shadow Freddy is called Nightmare, and in Fnaf 4 files Nightmare is Shadow Freddy. Basically making Nightmare: Nightmare Shadow Freddy.

[@Raiethstar]

Shit, that’s really good. I never thought about the workers getting hurt would be what he saw.

[@kingnathannn207]

this is also what I choose to believe bc he was hella scared about it for no reason like way more than ur average kid and I also believe fnaf 4 was what he was seeing while in a coma until he passsed away in the hospital which was nightmare freddy represented

[@aplelli]

Ehh, I never liked that. It seemed a bit too basic, and if Shadow Bonnie is a Spring Bonnie springlock victim, then how come it looks like Toy Bonnie with different teeth and nothing like Spring Bonnie? It's funny, but I think I actually prefer shadow remnant as an explanation for the Shadows than the earlier, simpler stuff.

[@GhostRose6500]

Well agony can change form, so maybe he changed to Fnaf 2 Bonnie to be more recognisable and friendlier to the toys. Shadow Freddy may have done the same to the withereds.

[@Tape231]

I’ve been saying this shit for ages. I think it helps explain a lot of the early shit, especially the crying child part

[@yogurtofthemultiverse2200]

I assumed the multiple simultaneous spring lock failures bit was talking about the facial ones that are so sensitive that we have to manually reset them every few seconds in the sister location one-- but in the original Freddy model. All of those lower ones would have went off because the kid was crying into freddy's mouth, snapping the jaw shut due to all the spring locks trying to bring the jaw piece up at once.

[@RyeToast]

That's possible

[@pdd5793]

so you consider spring lock as one part of the suit and the multiple sprig lock failures was that a lot of them failing during the crying child death? seems logical but a bit off for some reason

[@yogurtofthemultiverse2200]

@@pdd5793 it was just how the phone guy said it at the time-- multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures. It made me think he meant a single event. I could be wrong, but that was how I thought of it at first.

[@Raiethstar]

I always assumed that a worker was killed/maimed by the suits. It really was inevitable after all. When I heard the phone guy the first time my first thought was ‘oh damn both suits at the same time?’ To me there was no doubt that a worker was hurt, those suits are a wcb claim waiting to happing.

[@madshamilton7693]

i agree with OP, to me that moment seemed to be talking about the multiple locks in the jaw that would still be functioning in animatronic mode failing and snapping down as the child cries, i also thought what rye refers to as “spring-lock mode” was referred to as free-roaming in the game but i may be misremembering

[@SigilOfBaphomet]

The theory of Shadows being dead springlock victims actually holds up. First of all, SF and RWQ helping the other souls achieve piece makes a lot of sense, after all they used to be workers of Fredbear's Family Diner (a restaurant obviously focused on entertaining children), so logically they would be the type of guys to always try and make children happy. Besides, William did not become springtrap after he died, because he never died at all. William is immortal because of Cassidy not allowing him to die for the sake of making him suffer, that fits perfectly with the springlock suit. If you get springlocked while being physically unable to die you are condemned to be stuck with the agonizing pain. And since William did not die, it's safe to say that dying as a springlock victim equals becoming a Shadow because of the sheer amount of agony/dark remnant.

[@Chorutowo]

Man that cat is the most patient thing in the world, I wish mine was that calm

[@RyeToast]

Every cat's different!

[@Chorutowo]

@@RyeToast true

[@FTZPLTC]

Mark's mission is to ensure that there will be no seamless edits.

[@RyeToast]

He'll never let me have it

[@Smugtortise123]

Good vid, I would like to say that Nightmare is Williams wickedness altogether, it's mentioned in one of Nightmares jump scares in UCN

[@RyeToast]

It's possible

[@dgsf9444]

2:32 Yes, these are different children and each of them will appear in the Happiest Day after each minigame if you click on the Puppet drawing

[@RyeToast]

That makes sense, I never thought about it

[@Revanaught]

Compelling theory. My main question is why would Charlie's agony take the form of bonny, though? Cassidy as Freddy makes sense given all other theories. She was stuffed into and possees golden Freddy, so her agony is a shadow Freddy, but I don't understand why Charlie would make a bonny. Nightmarione, yes, but shadow bonny...idk.

[@RyeToast]

Yeah, that's kind of my sticking point, maybe it's meant to be recognizable to the spirits because they all seem to recognize Bonnie specifically because of what William did, but I'm not sure

[@jjh.5515]

@@RyeToast I assumed you meant she was taking after the form of golden Bonnie. It makes slightly more sense that since those were the first two animatronics and that’s what William was using to kill kids. And since it’s made of agony, it would take the form of the thing it hates most?

[@Revanaught]

@@RyeToast I kind of considered that, but I'm unsure. I guess it depends on how sentient we think these are and how much they shape shift. If the agony formed at the time of Charlie's death, it shouldn't have taken the form of Bonnie since William, by most timelines, wasn't using the suit to murder kids yet. So we'd have go assume that it's consciously deciding to take the form of Afton after it's creation to be recognizable for the spirits. It's a lot of assuming and stretching which leaves me uneasy with it as a theory.

[@bluecat8398]

I think Charlie is using the image of the thing William loves the most and tormenting him with it.

[@MultiKl]

I like the theory that the purple glitch bunny is glitchtrap and the minigame is where the glitchtrap virus survived

[@RyeToast]

That's not a bad theory, I don't personally believe it though

[@LukeAmbroseYT]

These theories get really interesting. It would be fun to see a theory in Henry since Hes a pretty underrated character.

[@RyeToast]

The only issue is the lack of info we have on him

[@LukeAmbroseYT]

@@RyeToast That is true, but I'm sure when the FNAF movie comes out a lot more about him will be revealed. (assuming the movie will stick with the game timeline and chronologically order.

[@michaelraymon111]

@@LukeAmbroseYT lmao the movie will not stick the gametimiline. Dozens of books but you think one movie is gonna provide more info now lol.

[@LukeAmbroseYT]

@@michaelraymon111 lmao obviously not everything in one movie will be revealed. It’s also very obvious they are gonna use the books as well. I’m saying the movie will fill in plot hole. Get that through your thick skull

[@michaelraymon111]

@@LukeAmbroseYT lmao it will fill zero plot holes. Over 10 books what more do you think thr movie will offer lol.

[@MShadowG.]

As a shadow freddy fan i really appreciate this video This 2 really confused me in fnaf 2 and 3 and that's why they both are my favourites. But i still think that SF got the short end of the stick bc they didn't get anything like SB got im Special Delivery Edit: also i'm really invested in the RyeToast lore

[@RyeToast]

I'm glad! And honestly it's weird how shadow Freddy just disappeared off the face of the earth

[@MShadowG.]

@@RyeToastMaybe there is a lore reason for it. Like when Cassidy connect herself with willian Shadow Freddy just poofed out of existence but still there to see willian and cassidy in fnaf 3? Don't know but it would be cool

[@xxautisticmonkeyxx385]

fnaf world Shadow Bonnie loading screen is a breaking bad reference we all missed

[@RyeToast]

True

[@speedslider3913]

(SPOILERS) It would actually make a ton of sense if Cassidy/Cassidy's agony is Shadow Freddy, as just like how she forces the other souls to torture William despite their wishes and refuses to let him go to everyone's detriment, Shadow Freddy in FNaF 3 puts the other animatronics/souls in danger and directly leads them to their dismantling for no good reason other than her own unknown benefit or to get the other souls to help her trap William.

[@kindachaos9775]

i always thought the purple freddy in the fnaf 3 minigames was just purple guy with a freddy head on. It makes sense that's how he'd lure them, instead of somehow recruiting some kind of supernatural shadow entity to lure the animatronics to him.

[@iloveh2oshow1]

I just LOVE your videos! Thanks for your research and depth you bring to your theories! Also always a pleasure to see your sweet kitties 😍😍

[@RyeToast]

Thank you so much!!

[@tris2694]

I’ve been watching your channel non stop for a few weeks now. Seeing you with your cats makes my day! Keep up the phenomenal content:)

[@RyeToast]

Thank you so much! I'm glad!!

[@lachlanmcdougall5326]

I've always been looking for an explanation as to why cassidy is the vengeful spirit in particular, and with this explanation you can atleast see they were an important figure throughout the series to merit their significance

[@Fusednebula]

this falls in line with a theory ive been working on about the phantoms. I personally think that when dark remnant is left over it melds into nonphysical forms. Hence in fnaf 3 the player is surrounded by fnaf memorabilia and animatronic parts along with the body of a horrid murderer. The phantoms can only interact by shutting down systems and are covered in dark markings along with the green moldy substance. The shadow animatronics are concentrated combinations of dark remnant, one (shadow freddy) is composed mostly of agony taking the form of golden freddy as they are cassidy's the burning desire to hurt william. this would make sense why it disappears in the later games as shadow freddy reaches its goal, kill william(though he lives lmao). Shadow bonnie is less "together" it has the intentions of charlotte, wanting to help but its goal its too general it does what it can, it continues to linger because it cant reach its goal of "help". The phantoms are minor concentrated forms of dark remnant, they are the leftover rage and unsettled grievances of the children. They are gone afterwards as the children are freed(or at least happy)

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

I think one of the Fazbear Fright books confirmed that, Phantom Animatronics are related to Springtrap, since when main character touches William's flesh inside of the springlock suit, they start to experience hallucinations of Phantom Animatronics along with multiple Springtrap appear (just like how when Ventilation gives error, you start to see Springtrap on every camera) and then he meets his demise.

[@Fusednebula]

@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 oh! i didnt know that the books explained that lol, i guess that makes sense, especially when you think that fnaf 3 protagonist was likely micheal

[@markus1309]

I always get a Better Call Saul flashback whenever you do a morgan and morgan sponsor

[@RyeToast]

Lol fair

[@mizukirin13]

I swear Scott named Shadow Bonnie(RWQFSFSXC) by slamming his head into the keyboard

[@RyeToast]

Notably, I'm pretty sure it's all on the left side of the keyboard too, which has led to people assuming he held shift down with his right hand and spammed buttons with his left

[@mizukirin13]

@@RyeToast That’s really interesting

[@boringpileofbones]

the similar "oh cool recolor of freddy from fnaf 1" and the Gold & Purple colors of shadow and golden freddy might be important, another counterpart scenario.

[@RyeToast]

Maybe 😉

[@tinaherr3856]

12:50 to be fair, they are not spirits, but Agony beings. Anything we know or speculate about how ghosts work would probably not apply to them. Heck, you even point this fact out, by stating that they aren't possessing animitronics. Also at 14:57, Agony is basically human suffering manifesting. And getting springlocked would be *very* painful, and you wouldn't die immediately, even if you weren't Afton.

[@lynnboartsdye1943]

Something about listening to a fnaf theory while the theorist gives their cat the gud scritchies is so wholesome

[@derekmartin5340]

Here's what my take was on the shadows had been for a little while, so I'm interested in what you'd think of it. In The Survival Logbook, there's a part where it gives you a story prompt with blank space for you to finish the story. The given prompt is as follows: "I'd only been on night shift for about a week, but I was so relieved to be switched over to the day shift. There's a lot of stress working 12 a.m-6 a.m. My boss told me that the animatronics were acting strangely-- almost aggressive toward the staff-- but I wasn't about to let that scare me off. After work, I had an unsettling feeling that I was being followed home..." This is obviously a reference to Jeremy Fitzgerald from FNAF2, as he describes what Phone Guy (his boss) says before moving him to the dayshift. I believe the thing that followed him home was one of the shadows, I'm not sure which one, but I like the idea of it being Shadow Bonnie, since Jeremy shares his name with the kid who possesses Bonnie; but I digress. Why is this important to call out? Well, I believe the reason this was included in the logbook of all things is because by time Mike has the logbook, the same thing most likely happens to Michael, resulting in the nightmares that make up FNAF4. In FNAF2, cutscenes play between each night, all of them labeled "Dreams" in the files. These would be Jeremy's nightmares, in the same manner as Mike's (and probably William's in UCN too) Have you ever found 'Nightmare' from FNAF4 odd? I mean, he's literally the final boss of the game, and his name is just "Nightmare". He resembles Shadow Freddy, but his name is just Nightmare, not Nightmare Shadow Freddy or anything like that. Why? Well, because like I said, I believe Shadow Freddy is *why* Michael is having the Nightmares. When did Shadow Freddy begin following Michael? Well, I believe this happened after FNAF3's fire, perhaps because Mike bought something from the auction after the fire that Shadow Freddy was attached to, maybe the logbook itself, or simply because he worked there. Aside from FNAF2, which would be before Mike's nightmares, thats the only time I can think of where they'd be in the same place. FNAF3's Night 6 is called "NIGHTMARE MODE" after all... I do believe the shadows are malevolent, I'm not entirely sure why the Freddy Files says otherwise. Sure, we play as RXQ to give cake to a child, but so does Mangle, BB, Toy Chica, and Fredbear; obviously none of those guys were real. I don't really see why RXQ would be real here. For Shadow Freddy meanwhile, well, FFPS actually gives a ton of evidence towards that not being the case despite him never physically appearing. In "Fruity Maze", William's last line is "Follow Me", a direct callback to what Shadow Freddy says in the minigame of the same name. In fact, think about what Shadow Freddy is actually doing... he's luring the children to the saferoom to be destroyed. The whole minigame was symbolic, Shadow Freddy doing what Afton did when he killed the kids. The reason Scott would've brought this up in FFPS is because its relevant to what Henry describes in the Insanity Ending: "He set some kind of trap. I don't know what it was, but he led them there, again. He overpowered them, again. And he robbed them of the only thing that they had, again" Shadow Freddy *was* a trap, setup by William somehow. Although TFF describes this as good, Henry describes this as a horrid event, an event leading Henry to believe "they will never find rest now, not like this", that is of course, unless he "calls them all back, all of them. Together in one place." You know what picture appears at the same time he begins talking about the trap? a blueprint of Lefty. Lefty is Henry's attempt at doing what William did, to lure his daughter back to the same place she died-- The alleyway behind Fredbear's. This is why Lefty resembles Shadow Freddy so much. If Nightmare and Nightmarionne are the same, then they also feed on William's suffering.

[@allyw4168]

the lore of the backroom sponsors is getting intense

[@theforgottenscribe]

Actually, there's some subtle details in FNAF 2 that suggest the 'Dead Children's Incident' (hate the name for this but whatever) happened before the gameplay. The check you get at the end very clearly has a date that's not in the summer, while night 1's phone recording clearly welcomes you to a summer job. So yes, one of the DCI kids could've produced S. Bonnie

[@SodaColada]

This brings up an interesting detail; because they're shown in the 8-bit minigames helping the kids, yet don't have an actual jumpscare and don't have any physicality in lore, are their appearances within the games an event or an actual glitch inside of a game that Fazbear Entertainment made ? Ofc I'm implying that the "first four games are just in lore games made by a rogue indie dev" is true, imo anyways, since the two shadows both crash the game, not jumpscare attack. I think the minigames are credible in that maybe the shadows are trying to show what really happened to the public, if they (the shadows) didn't just make the minigames altogether. It's worth pointing out that UCN has the exact same format as the core FNAF games (similar in appearance and similar gameplay), that is to say we know that UCN is not a real establishment or event in lore and it's made clear with the given evidence. Using that same notion (while it is somewhat of a stretch yes), we can use those pointers to also claim the core FNAF games as such, and then using the rogue indie dev quote to back it up as videogames in lore. I know it's kind of redundant, but it's an interesting little tidbit that supports the Game Theory's game theory.

[@gdeveloper3309]

i think them being born of william's wickedness made in flesh is still a pretty good theory. The theory that the shadow's are born of william's wickedness isn't that they're generated from william's agony being springlocked, but rather by the memory of how william killed the kids and the agony it caused. As well, if any kids died due to william and their agony generated the shadows, it would technically be william's wickedness(actions) forming flesh(in some sort of shadow form). Behavioral similarities: Shadow freddy tries to lead kids into the backroom where purple guy is where they get destroyed, like how purple guy lured kids to get them killed. Henry also references this his insanity ending speech "He lured them all back. Back to a familiar place. Back with familiar tricks. He brought them all together. Are they still...aware? I hope not. It keeps me awake at night. I could make myself...sleep. But not yet.", "He overpowered them again. And he robbed them of the only thing that they had. Again. I don't know how those tiny breaths of life came to inhabit those machines." The kids got lured and overpowered again by william. The only second time this happened to the same set of kids was in follow me, where shadow freddy lured kids to be dismantled by william, the famillar tricks being "luring" that shadow freddy copied over from william's original killing, as he's probably william's wickedness made of flesh. Shadow freddy also says "follow me" in follow me, and in fnaf 6 at the end of susie's fruity maze minigame, william dressed in springbonnie lures a kid asking them to "follow me". Locational similarities: Shadow freddy is seen walking to the safe room, in the fnaf 3 office, in mike's house, fnaf 2 backroom. These locations could be places william has been to. Shadow freddy luring the kids to the safe room has been done by william, and in fnaf 2 william uses one of the spare yellow suits in the back. In fnaf 3, instead of shadow freddy making his way to where william is, william is instead making his way to where shadow freddy is in your office. In fnaf 4 shadow freddy takes the form of nightmare which he attacks mike in presumably his dreams as the form of a child as in mike's perspective he's only doorknob height(attacks kids just like william). Shadow bonnie has his own minigame, is spotted in the fnaf 2 and ucn offices. Shadow bonnie spawns out of the spring bonnie suit, which william may be in(as well something important to note is in the actual stage 01 minigame a green shirt kid goes missing). In fnaf 2 and ucn, but as well those are locations william has got a security job at. (this is a stretch but it kind of matches the Into the pit description of spring bonnie, as a figure standing in the corner with a bowtie grinning, which coincidentally just happens to be another agony creature formed by william's wickedness) (another stretch/coincidence is if willplush is correct, then shadow bonnie teleporting around could be him copying fredbear plush seemingly teleporting around.) These behaviors also match the fnaf world behaviors pretty well. Shadow freddy is offensive and murders kids, while shadow bonnie is more defensive and like a security guard. Why would they follow the kids? or be present around them? Since its the kid's agony that are generating the shadows, caused by william's wickedness, they are present near the kids. Why does shadow bonnie give cake? William, as shown in fnaf vr's ending, lures kids at the back with birthday cake at the end. William giving a kid cake in the form of shadow bonnie could make sense in that regard. If the puppet were to be one of the shadow animatronics though, id say they'd be shadow freddy. Lefty looks like shadow freddy and contains the puppet inside of it. Nightmarione replaces nightmare aka shadow freddy in the non cannon halloween dlc, and the puppet asks freddy to follow her in save them just like shadow freddy asked of the other animatronics. Lastly if they're evil or not, id say they're neutral and just replayed shadows of the past. Shadow bonnie's actions could be perceived as good, and shadow freddy could be thought of as freeing the kids instead of helping lure and dismantle them, but overall with their connections to william that they might be on his side.

[@lpfan4491]

I personally always interpreted Shadow Bonnie as a coinflip of the idea. It physically exists as an imprint of William's wickedness, but it's behavior and motivation is closer to what the character of Springbonnie would logically be like. It takes the form of a cuter bonnie not to trick people into trust, but rather because that is what a character designed to be around kids would want to be. However, due to its nature and its recent creation, it becomes aggressive in Fnaf 2 as soon as it confirms that the player character can actually see it. In FNaF3, it became more passive because it is a part of the whole theme of being abandoned for decades and being tired of it all. Afterwords, it vanishes until UCN because it gets to rest with the spirits until called back for that whole thing...and even then, I see it only darkening the room despite the context as it having become much less dangerous since no longer being negatively bound.

[@titan7789]

Didn't watch the video yet,but I'm guessing that Shadow Freddy is the bad guy(Fnaf world:"I'll eat your soul."),while Shadow Bonnie is probably the good guy,because he protects the Remnant or smth.

[@RyeToast]

Not quite but close

[@titan7789]

No way, the Cassidy and Charlie's parallels are genius, ngl. And this would explain why only TWO children's agonies formed animatronics. They both are the most "aware" of the animatronics. The Puppet,who got possessed by Charlie,that broke down so it isn't in the animtronic mode(A.I wouldn't interfere) and Golden Freddy,that wasn't in animatronic mode,because it was put in the suit mode(and once again A.I wouldn't interfere)

[@titan7789]

Which is why you give cake to the children as Shadow Bonnie. The children are basically stuck in their good(?)memories,so you gather them to The Happiest Day to finally let them rest.

[@sydneycherise7468]

I always thought that they were unwanted orphans or something that were kidnapped off the street and that's why they aren't addressed in tapes, phone calls, or newspapers. It makes a little sense to me at least.

[@RyeToast]

That's possible but really speculative

[@sydneycherise7468]

@@RyeToast agreed. But with all theories, as well as real life cases of child kidnappings and murder, most people are left to speculate if cases go cold. I spend a lot of time watching unsolved case videos so I'm always looking at it from that sort of perspective. 🙂

[@sonerec725]

I do think its noteworthy that Nightmare is labeled as "shadow freddy" by the game files iirc in 4. And if so that would indicate another instance of them being a parallel to specifically golden freddy / fredbear. One theory I would maybe posited is that if the "2 souls" theory about golden freddy is correct, perhaps the regular golden freddy manifestation represents Cassidy, and shadow freddy represents the afton child who is normally more repressed by the more aggressive Cassidy. This would also line up with Nightmare being a version of shadow freddy, since it being a dark reflection of fredbear and having a human brain seems like a specific reference to it being a nightmare of Michael afton from guilt over his brothers death

[@aykayjee4133]

love the cat cameos and the lack of jumpscares :) i like getting to watch horror content at night and actually being able to sleep after, and getting to watch a little kitty do their thing :D

[@creptoid]

99.9% Of the time I skip the sponsorship segments, but yours are actually entertaining!

[@mikethestupid]

I was so excited to watch this bc I never really understood these animatronics and I’m really glad you made a video about them! It really makes sense for Charlie and Cassidy to be S. Bonnie and Freddy! Tho I’m still confused why Cassidy is “the one you shouldn’t have killed”. I mean, the only difference between her and the other 4 missing children is that she was put into an animatronic with a soul already inside it, besides that, there’s really not much of a difference between her and the other children, unless I’m missing something and being completely dumb- Again, amazing video! Your theories and videos always light up my day! :)

[@RyeToast]

No, you're not missing anything, it just kind of is like that. As far as we can tell. Some people think it's Andrew from the books, but I haven't read them yet so I can't judge whether or not that's accurate

[@Maximum_PRODUCTIONS]

@@RyeToast hey toast real quick question you know who sans is right it’s a question for the presentation.

[@notquiteasamazingjess]

@@RyeToast most people seem to agree that Andrew is more of an allegorical figure for Cassidy because the animatronic with two souls in it isn’t Golden Freddy in the Fazbear Frights books.

[@gargoylegray7725]

If it weren't for the fact that shadow bonnie appears before the bite of '87, I'd say that they both represent the two bite victims/their agony/grief. In fnaf 3 minigame, shadow bonnie can teleport to other games played on previous nights. This could also imply time travel, so maybe thats an excuse. But its also heavily evidenced that either toy chica or mangle caused the bite, the only reason i would even think of toy bonnie as a suspect is that he is the most aggressive from the start of the game, has the most unique images in game including his creepy eyeless secret screen, his camera poses staring at the camera up close and when hes in your office. This is all a stretch and I dont really think its true but maybe its some food for thought.

[@ark_awaits3367]

I mean they could time travel. This is kinda forgotten but it's seen in the FNAF3 mini games

[@HollowedHeart]

I think it is also worth noting that this is one of many things we can see shared between Freddy and Bonnie (in a sense). Both are the only animatronics, that we currently know of, to have golden springlock suits. But also, the graves in the ending of FFPS line up with the heads in the ending of FNAF3, looking at this the two that share a font line up as Bonnie and Freddy. I truly do think the amount of things that these two in particular share is fascinating and likely a call back to the relationship between Afton and Henry

[@berniebare371]

Ah, nice to see you went with the Shadow Freddy thumbnail lol

[@RyeToast]

Lol yeah. The colors just look better on it

[@berniebare371]

@@RyeToast agreed

[@mildlycornfield]

That's an excellent loaf in your lap this video. I'd always thought the shadows were springlock victims, but this theory is much more interesting and ties in a lot more than that idea.

[@RyeToast]

It could go either way, but I lean this direction more

[@amyrodgers4252]

The thing I'm curious about is if whether or not the actual animatronics are aware of Shadow Bonnie's existence. They're definitely aware of S.Freddy's existence since they literally followed him to find William, but do they know about Shadow Bonnie? It'd actually be interesting to know what the animatronics think of other than revenge on Afton and killing guards.

[@CeeJei]

One thing linking the shadows to the springlock animatronics is the fact that shadow Freddy is a recolored withered golden Freddy and shadow Bonnies almost toy Bonnie like design is linked to spring bonnie. Why you may ask? Well, in the fnaf four minigames when the crying child is locked up in the backroom of the restaurant you see a spring Bonnie head in a shelve that looks exactly like a yellow toy Bonnie.

[@ItalianBrussel]

I really like this one! I'm a little confused on why Charlie would become a version of Toy Bonnie, but thematically this fits pretty well. The springlock failure victims is also a great theory, and I agree that the motive is a little shaky. Great video!

[@blasterbom7651]

It sounds to me like the two are the employee springlock failures. Perhaps they caught onto Afton at some point so he triggered their suits to kill them. We may even have seen this event in the bite vid, in the background you see purple guy putting the head on a freddy suit. Two workers who couldn't stop this evil in life plus horrible death equals lots of agony. In death freddy is more aggro against Aftons. Bonnie makes sense, helpful, brings cake, aggressively stop someone from harvesting remnant.

[@Kingofportals]

Shadow Bonnie: Now say my name! Player: RWQSFASXC Shadow Bonnie: Your God damn right!

[@--CHARLIE--]

There are some who believe that Shadow Freddy also appears in fnaf 4 as Nightmare. Notably, in the game files there is an image file labeled "shadow freddy". Its just an image of some text reading "NIGHTMARE" Most people forget about this or aren't aware of it, but it is important to cover.

[@backonja7255]

I had a theory (or I guess more like observation), long ago, that was primarily based on Fazbear Frights story: "Hide and Seek" In story, Shadow Bonnie escapes from the arcade game, and starts to haunt our main character Toby, as a disembodied shadow that lurks behind him where ever he goes. Two important notes: #1: Throw out the story, we learn that the only way to defeat Shadow Bonnie, is by ignoring his existence... #2: Unlike other Fazbear Frights stories with similar structure, in this one, Toby isn't the only one who notices the shadow behind him. The other two who do notice are his bff, Reggie, who spends most of his free time at Arcade watching other people play games, and the unnamed kid in school bathroom that was wearing headphones. In both cases it was a person who seemingly had mental connection with technology in some way. With all this in mind, Shadow Bonnie seems to be connected to Video Games and has ability to escape from them and/or alter them, as evident on multiple occasions in the game series. *In FNAF 3's mini-game, he has the ability to glitch-out of his mini-game, and go into other mini-games. *He shows up in FNAF AR, which is all about animatronics escaping from games into real world, and even stranger, Shadow Freddy doesn't appear in it. *Even in it's first appearance in FNAF 2, he is only a threat If you stare at him for too long, and even that isn't gonna cause a jumpscare, only thing that's gonna happened is that the game is gonna crash. Which not only supports the idea of Video game manipulation abilities, but also enforces the idea that the only way of defeating him is by ignoring him. Also, even his real name (RWQFSFASXC) sounds like a bunch of random game code (at least to me)

[@jennfluf3794]

I genuinely and wholeheartedly love all the theories you make and produce, I love all of your videos :)

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

2:42 Yeah you can skip certain minigames and miss certain kids. Shadow Bonnie specifically gives cake to Jeremy

[@capnMAN]

Come on man! We obviously know they were old FredBear's family diner workers! We even know their names Harold the janitor & Trevor the cashier! And Trevor obviously likes conga lines! FNAF 3 mini games solved!

[@berniebare371]

bro what

[@RyeToast]

🤦 I can't believe I forgot about Harold the janitor

[@capnMAN]

@@RyeToast Yes it is quite undeniably canon!

[@TheEverythingEnthuiast]

6:15 RyeToast: Into The Ryeverse

[@RyeToast]

The ryetoat lore begins

[@Stormy-Knight]

Wait didnt we already know there were multiple crying children in the minigames? The whole story behind them is that we're setting up the Happiest Day by collecting the 4 other dead children, it's why theres 5 minigames and why each child only appears in Happiest Day by completing their corresponding minigame.

[@mikkaddo9861]

I'd argue there is reason to believe, that given the use of the graphics, and the use of the term *AGONY* to define the power that keeps spirits present despite their death, you could say every child spirit in this franchise is a "crying child" yes. hot take. I know. but that's one of the hills I choose to die on, especially given the ultimate guide's language.

[@xander_404]

I always thought that the shadows represented the MCI murders, Shadow Freddy represents the 1985 murders and Shadow Bonnie represented the 1987 murders. This would explain why the shadows are different animatronics because they are showing what time frame they were manifested in by being what current animatronic there is to replicate it's form to

[@kidkap4]

Shadow Bonnie showing up in UCN is incredibly funny if you think he’s literally there. Like, he shows up just to turn off William’s lights and stare at him for a moment. He hopped in to this hell dimension or whatever just to play around with the light switch. Nosferatu bunny

[@cosmicdahlia]

I prefer AstralSpiff's nickname for Shadow Bonnie, "xQc"

[@RyeToast]

🤣

[@bluewaterdragon0292]

This also helps show why shadow Bonnie doesn't jumpscare Afton in UCN as Charlie sees that he's already being punished so she just makes it a little harder for him

[@TsulaAngenati2292]

They could be the agonized spirits of two workers who got springlocked by the springlocks either due to William’s instruction to do so or William springlocking them if they saw something they shouldn’t have. Either way, they’d be aggressive to William for revenge but sympathetic to the kids. They’d attack the night guard (Michael under a fake alias). They’d also be aggressive to anyone trying to harness dark remnant as that would seem to imply they are collecting the pain of souls for some nefarious reason Either that or they are simply the hallucinations of Michael recalling “uncle” Henry and “papa” William

[@isaac_aren]

Finally someone mentions these guys. I've always wanted to know what was up with the shadow animatronics

[@printility9602]

The Morgan and Morgan sponsorship had me FLABBERGASTED

[@michaellessley4768]

I swear your sponsor ship parts are the best I have seen it makes me die laughing while still getting good information about the sponsor

[@xithael8709]

The “sponsor” version of every KZbinr is now canonically an alternate version of them that only does sponsorship segments forever

[@VoidPelt]

I have never ever seen someone get sponsored by a Lawfirm. That’s something new and I’m all for it.

[@sidewireflame2949]

But all the FNAF 2 phone calls are pre recorded, phone guy talks about the new summer job, but FNAF 2 takes place in November, so the second missing children’s incident would have to be before fnaf 2

[@RyeToast]

Summer job is either an accident or an apherism. The newspaper directly says the place closes after a few short weeks

[@piggieprincess]

Here for this Toast lore we are getting thru the sponsorships

[@RyeToast]

Gotta make em interesting somehow lol

[@theftking]

_"The shadow animatronics are EVIL!"_ From _my_ point of view, _the night guards_ are evil!

[@RyeToast]

The real evil animatronics are the friends we made along the way

[@ermacmacro7136]

I wonder if the role they play in FNAF 3 doesn't contradict their roles in FNAF World or AR. Consider the following: Shadow Freddy is portrayed as aggressive in FNAF World. So is it too much of a stretch to say that in FNAF 3 that Shadow Freddy is trying to recklessly take the fight directly to Afton, not taking into account that the spirits are bound by the parameters of the Animatronics' programming (hence why Shadow Freddy can go into the backroom, but not the animatronics and why they just error out). It also ties into the fact that while Shadow Freddy in FNAF World has a moveset consisting of yes, instant kill moves. They're gamble moves, only having percentage chances of actually working. So the only thing you can do is just brute force until your gamble eventually pays off. Meanwhile Shadow Bonnie (because that actually name can fuck all the way off) is meant to be more on the spiritual guide. Helping one of the children pass on in FNAF 3, and having moves that affect stats and even being one of the few characters that can revive the party. I think FNAF AR still follows this idea for Shadow Bonnie, but more in the case of Shadow Bonnie telling you that if you keep fucking around with Remnant, then the more that you're going to find out.

[@SwimmingInSunlight]

I have nothing of substance to say on the theory, but magnificent cat assistant! 🐱

[@RyeToast]

Thank you! I'll let him know

[@Vongolasoul]

You said Charlie was arguably the first victim but doesn't chick say she was the first and she has seen everything? I think she was Def the first

[@RyeToast]

It's hard to tell. Because FNAF 6, Henry says a wound first inflicted on me. I would argue that chica is saying she was the first of the missing child incident

[@Vongolasoul]

@@RyeToast if he says a wound first inflicted on me, I feel like he's technically only talking about the first time afton wronged him but I see what you mean

[@kayden-blodgett9032]

I was literally randomly thinking about these guys at work today😂I thought to myself “if I could ask scott any question and get an honest answer, what would it be?” And what these guys are/what they represent was up there. Keep up the great work rye😌

[@joshuavis2736]

I think when it talks about one of the children, it’s talking about one of the missing children

[@RyeToast]

Yeah I think so too

[@IMakeMetal]

I'm not sure these two "animatronics" (if we can even call them that) are even necessarily related to each other. I've heard a theory before that the fnaf 2 mini game appearance is from the perspective of the animatronics, so that's just their perspective of what's going on. Something that looks dark purple and kind of like freddy. Aside from this mini game, we don't actually see shadow freddy really do anything, so I'm not convinced it's appropriate to be assigning goals or personality to it. There's also the difficult bit of discerning what is or isn't canon with fnaf AR given some of the more colorful variant characters within that game. I think there isn't enough information to go on at this point.

[@lolglolblol]

"multiple simultaneous springlock failures" doesn't sound like it means multiple victims to me tbh, more that multiple springlocks in the same suit failed. If it happened in multiple suits, I think they'd be more explicit with the phrasing, something like "simultaneous springlock failures in multiple suits"

[@hawastudiosoriginals]

This is my own personal theory, even though it is a bit spekulative. I think that the shadow animatronics are basically the springlock failure victims. Phone guy's call in Fnaf 3 means that there were two springlock failures in total: Shadow Bonnie in the Springbonnie suit and Shadow Freddy in Fredbear. Their behaviour against the Nightguard in Fnaf 2 could mean that they are jealous at Jeremy Fitzgerald, also a Freddy's Employee like them before, is still alive. And the fact that they are not really attacking him, could perhaps mean that he just gets unconscious because of the big amount of dark remnant that comes from the Shadow Animatronics. And their aggression against William is actually pretty easy to explain: They died in Fredbears Family Diner inside the springlocksuits which William created.... I mean there is no doubt that they would hate him for that and could not move on. I mean the same game where this is mentioned is also the game where they are most active.... Coincidence ? I think not..... But then they seemed to have had enough when William started killing kids which is why they started interfering. That's the reason why Shadow Bonnie helps the Kids in happiest day and Shadow Freddy leads the Fnaf 1 Animatronics to William so that they can kill him. It first looks like he is evil, because the animatronics get scrapped by William right after but that was the plan after all: after that the Spirits can take revenge on him , which leads in the end for the spirits to get their happiest day and for William to get springlocked …. Exactly the way Shadow Freddy and Bonnie died before because of William….. Feels pretty poetic and planned out actually. What do you guys think ? Sorry for writing so much lol

[@75JUNAKI]

Personally I disagree, I don’t think they are, especially with the reveal of Shadow Puppet and Shadow BalloonBoy in the F.N.A.F Encyclopedia. Shadow FredBear has the appearance of Withered FredBear from F.N.A.F.2 which doesn’t resemble the original suit seen in U.C.N. RXQ/ShadowToyBonnie resembles Toy Bonnie and its been said in both the Ultimate Guide and Encyclopedia. While I don’t have the Encyclopedia, I do have the Ultimate Guide. On Pg.281, RWQFSFASXC (Shadow Bonnie) “A Shadow version of Toy Bonnie. Similar to Golden Freddy, doesn’t appear to follow normal laws of physics, appearing and disappearing at will, phasing through various mini games in FNAF 3, ect. In Special Delivery, Shadow Bonnie appears when the player collects too much Dark Remnant.” Just realized I didn’t need to write this down, but still he is a shadowy version of Toy Bonnie. Now why him, unknown, but it could be he was made from the tragedy that occurred in F.N.A.F.2 save them mini game. These shadows may be made by Dark Remnant, perhaps.

[@RealKingCRK]

I have a feeling that shadow Freddy is the BV using a projection through Golden Freddy as Cassidy is the main soul while BV is the cause of the hallucinations.

[@RyeToast]

Huh. There's not a TON of evidence for that but logically it could totally work

[@RealKingCRK]

@@RyeToast the only main problems with this theory is why would he try to hurt his father, probably to stop his evil

[@RealKingCRK]

@@RyeToast I just remembered a line from nightmare that says that the shadow fears him

[@cryptomancer2927]

Is that me? Is that me better than me?! I'll f*cking kill me! That's what I heard in my head as he looked into the mirror and saw himself

[@ipurpleghostt]

I don’t think them crashing your game is a violent thing, I’ve just seen it more as saving you from playing the game (if that makes sense)

[@Lavi24thousand]

This channel is amazing. Every time I'm slightly bored I come here and always manage to get interested in the topic at hand.

[@LostCookie93]

Plot twist: withered Chica is Charlie when she says "I was the first, I have seen everything"

[@TheNoiseOutside]

shadow bonnie being in ucn confirms that the vengeful child knows it's existence

[@RyeToast]

That's true, but tbf they should know about both from happiest day and follow me

[@evie-mae8923]

Finally someone actually mentioned how it can't be a spring lock failure for the bite of 83

[@BluesChelsea12045]

Shadow Animtronocs might be one of the scariest things in FNAF Imagine they existed in irl and guys personally to play Willam Afton in the FNAF Movie they should casted William Dafoe i mean look at him is scary and frightening and hey I hope you don't forget me and #RyeToastto100k So close to hitting it take care ❤️😉

[@RyeToast]

Willem Dafoe would have been good, but I think they made a good choice in casting. And oh my we're close to that huh? What a wild number to hit. Thank you!!

[@just_a_tepig3611]

Another way to look at it, they could represent the agony of the separate murders. Freddy representing the MCI and bonnie representing the DCI. This could help explain their appearances, one being based on the og animatronics that the MCI kids went into, the other on the toys the DCI went into.

[@TriforceRaiden]

This is really interesting, but my biggest question is, why shadow BONNIE, if it's supposed to be Charlie? Cassidy being both Golden Freddy and Shadow Freddy makes enough sense, but why are the Puppet and Shadow Bonnie connected? Oddly enough, the Puppet also has a lot of correlation with Shadow Freddy, with Nightmare and Lefty (both dark bears) being directly linked with Nightmarionne and the Puppet, something to think about

[@bradoreman2510]

2:40 - In Fnaf 3 you give cake to four children and finally give cake to the fifth child (Golden Freddy) in Happiest Day. The sprite used is not for Crying Child, it just represents any child soul. This is why in Fnaf 2 we see Charlotte turn into that sprite. In the end cutscene of Fnaf 3 we see the same soul sprites though they're facing away from us.