Are the Tories Becoming Less Pro Israel?

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When Hamas launched its invasion of Israel, the UK government responded by affirming their support for Israel. But in the past few days, that support has apparently waned with David Cameron tweeting for a sustainable ceasefire. In this video, we're going to look at the Tory party's historic support for Israel, Sunak's response to October 7th attacks, and whether the government's support for Israel is waning.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:02 - Tory Party Historic Support for Israel
04:35 - Support since October 7th
05:24 - Has the Support Held?
08:37 - Sponsored Content

[@davidmcculloch8490]

The Tories are not reversing support for Israel; they are running out of excuses and are worried about public opinion. They consistently care more about power than human life. The last 13 years have consistently shown that.

[@tomlxyz]

That implies that still secretly supporting Israel gives them more power

[@inaworldfulloftrashbagsbet2023]

Exactly. It's just that Israel's military campaign has been so catastrophic and heinous that it's hard to show support for it without damaging your image in the eyes of your voters

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: - If UK/USA/West Leadership - Empower,Defend a Govt/Nation - Who use Starvation,Death Camps,Pogroms,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Ethnic Cleansing,etc - Not akin to enablers of Nazis?

[@Tiasung]

That's right. The Tories (Rishi Sunka) never supported Israel, quite the opposite. But they had to pretend they did, to not show their true colour.

[@benji-pj4dp]

8,317-13,190 civilians died in uk us coalition airstrikes against isis. The West doesn't have a leg to stand on judging israel after what just happened to them

[@hg82met]

You're expecting them to tackle this issue with any integrity or principles? Which was the last issue they dealt with properly? It's all about their electability.

[@JohnDoe-gc1pm]

Always was. Astronaut gun meme

[@pikapi6993]

but who is going to vote for them in the long run if they stop being conservative? Why pander to leftists, leftists will pick leftist parties.

[@jonsmith5058]

@@pikapi6993 lets hope, not that we really have any choices under scumbag Starmer. Also if being right wing means supporting a genocidal terror state maybe you should reconsider

[@KarakuraNinja]

Democratically elected short term officials who don't learn or care. As time passed since the founding of Israel, their crimes were normalised. Normalisation as a result of unaddressed injustices. Those forces including Tzipi, all went after Jeremy Corbyn who was more serious about this issue. They manufactured and exaggerated anti semitism problems to an insane proportion by amplifying the most fringe and also false allegations because apparently everything is anti semitic. Thanks to the zionists, many died in covid. Their influence needs to removed from Britain. They are similar to nazis.

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

@@pikapi6993 Their own voters are turning on them, not 'Pandering to the left'. They might not vote for the centre or left, but they can abstain.

[@irtwiaos]

I love how all these leaders jumped to Israel's side instantly thinking it is easy layup for increasing their poll numbers inly to have it bite back spectacularly a month later.

[@TheFallinhalo]

youre Biggest mistake is thinking their doing this for the Polls. the Correct answer, $$$ dont beleive me? look up The Lobby, (The UK varient just named "The Lobby" theirs a U.S version) the U.K are bought out by Israel just like the U.S

[@admetussenatorofthesullane7759]

We will never forget this part of history and all those who sided will be held accountable

[@callumbanthorpe523]

Or maybe October 7th was a horrific attack which deserved international support, but Israel went too far in its response... Or maybe just keep your excessively cynical view of politics, I'm sure that's a healthy way to view the world.

[@Adam-326]

And make no mistake, this isn’t because they care about what’s happening in the palestinian territories. It’s because they care about what it could do to their poll numbers. It’s always been about their poll numbers.

[@ovidiusm7710]

To be fair their poll numbers are fucked regardless of their stance on Israel & Gaza

[@narannavan]

​@@ovidiusm7710but if it wins them 1 more vote than being pro Israel then the Tories will switch allegiance

[@getnohappy]

Great, you've figured out how democracy is supposed to work

[@Adam-326]

@@getnohappyAnd that’s why democracy isn’t as great as people like to believe that it is.

[@Adam-326]

@@ovidiusm7710But this is an obvious attempt to try to remedy that.

[@maybedonn]

"This all changed under Margaret Thatcher" of course

[@Tab1300]

I swear Thatcher and Regan did more damage to the West than any adversity.

[@mysticaltraveller]

right.

[@alice_mation]

Surprised you didn't mention that Yemen have stopped all Isreal bound ships which includes BP ships which Rishis wife has shares in, which is trying to reach the oil in Gaza. It was ONLY AN HOUR after the BP ships were not being let through that Rishi made the announcment for a ceasefire. It's because he's loosing money.

[@m4yh3m121]

He's a self serving prick, the whole lot of them are, slippery sunak should be his name

[@windwaker0rules]

Hensons Shaving was more important to this crisis.

[@fear-the-most-High]

Forsis is the company

[@dvklaveren]

The exact same argument would be made if the inverse was true and Rishi had doubled down. "The only reason you doubled down is because you're mad at the houthis". I'm not saying you're wrong, but the news channel wouldn't be sustainable if they didn't break up their analysis into multiple videos. You can't cover everything in an 11 minute video.

[@davidty2006]

That isn't even ships bound for Israel, It's just ships in general.

[@Alisha.10]

Yemen blocking the BP ship and the UK government changing their mind within an hour told me everything I needed to know. I wonder if Sunak or his family has investments or ties to BP. He only does stuff when it has a direct impact on him/his family.

[@somerandomguy2073]

His wife does.

[@trutharrow5311]

UK is very good at creating problems all over the world tho

[@Alex-fm5ke]

Cameron called for a ceasefire before BP made that decision. And BP not shipping through the Red Sea doesn’t impact infosys because it’s helping upgrading its IT systems

[@JasonAtlas]

Copy and paste comment. Probably a bit. It's still a conflict of interest.

[@Alisha.10]

@@JasonAtlas ?

[@lonewolf4924]

Can you PLEASE make a video on why they support Israel in the first place? Like specifically why each person would put a FOREIGN countries interests ahead of the UK’s standing across the world?

[@merlumili]

Probably because it would make them look bad if they didn't support the country they had a hand in making and that's probably why they found it so easy to look away when Israel committed crimes too

[@edo.creative]

My guess is it's connected to - the holocaust and antisemitism - trade, Israel is big on high tech - they're a strategic partner - they one of the best developet counties in the world, especially millitarily and joint operations help keep the British army strong. There's probably a bunch more but these are just off the top of my head

[@marny3559]

​@@edo.creativeHere's one. A lot of Tory donors are rich, and Jewish, and bankers. The Tories will suck the dick of any one of these. Now imagine being all three.

[@laithmughrabi8990]

Maybe because there is an AIPAC-like lobby in UK.

[@anonyKinetic]

@@edo.creative It's mostly the military and location. The west sees Israel as a western outpost in the middle east and wants to maintain their influence through it.

[@JamesL42]

What a train wreck interview that was. Wow. Way to make your country look 10x worse in 30 seconds flat.

[@zurielsss]

She is a true Karen

[@_vallee_5190]

Literally openly calling for the destruction of an entire people on live TV, absolutely horrible.

[@DeusVult77763]

@@_vallee_5190 wait where did she say that??!

[@PIASOC]

@JamesL42 You support the creation of an extreme theocratic islamic state, hell bent on genocide, and you think its going to make the world a better place..?!

[@_vallee_5190]

@@DeusVult77763 She calls the end of a Palestinian state under a two state solution.

[@Jaggjihdrghj]

Why didn’t you talk about how they only changed their position an HOUR after BP started crying. This is about money end off. No humanity from the tories or Labour it’s all about money

[@merlumili]

Funny how they're all about human rights the moment their pockets are at risk. Not surprising at all.

[@Qoonutz]

The UK is unable to solve its own problems.

[@narannavan]

It created the Israel problem, too

[@bothi00]

Perhaps another country should come in and teach ye how to run a country before you're trusted to it yourselves

[@dvklaveren]

Isreal was created by the UK, so that tracks.

[@inaworldfulloftrashbagsbet2023]

Well, should've thought twice before creating an extra problem by signing the Balfour declaration

[@michaelrch]

@@bothi00that's already happened. That country is the United States of America.

[@STYouNews]

*It’s because they care about what it could do to their poll numbers. It’s always been about their poll numbers.*

[@UnknownUser-ow5zb]

Yes. That is what democracy is.

[@pikapi6993]

then they are dumb. Because how are they supposed to sway Pro Palestinians? Pro Palestinians are going to vote Labour. If they want voters they should pander to conservatives.

[@lightningstrike5024]

@@pikapi6993 this is the one of the problems with modern democracy

[@sevret313]

A two-state solution will never work, you need a one-state solution that's neither Israel nor Palestine.

[@Champ092]

How? Palestinians were there before Israel and even British existence.

[@sevret313]

@@Champ092 Turn the area into something like Northern-Ireland or that of many balkan countries with powersharing and secure the rights for all the residents.

[@Israelpwn]

@@sevret313 That's a strange suggestion, considering that there is no side whatsoever with an interest in this.

[@sevret313]

@@Israelpwn It is a compromise between a one-state solution and a two-state solution.

[@mofra]

​@@Champ092 jews were there even before the arabs invasion. jews are the indigenous people of judea/palestine

[@SuperFitzyBoi]

Not really related to the topic of the video, but hearing the words "foreign secretary David Cameron" is still super weird to me... what a wild ride the last couple years have been

[@sirshauniv511]

At first it looked like this situation would be over soon, but as it goes on, it's becoming clearer that the humanitarian cost is a lot higher than it first seemed, hence why support is waning.

[@Adam-326]

Nobody has ever said that it would be over soon. From the beginning, it was stated that it would be a months-long operation at least.

[@Airstrikerable]

​@@Adam-326Months isn't very long for stuff like this.

[@Tiasung]

The humanitarian cost is so high because Israel has almost no support and almost only restrictions and opposition to it. I dont see any of its alleged "allies" actually helping it fight. Or for that matter find real help for the Palestinian civilians involved. This is exactly the situation that was planned by the Appropriated Western goverments, including UK's.

[@OVXX666]

lol you know its been going on for decades right...

[@Adam-326]

@@Airstrikerable He obviously meant that it should've ended sooner. We are barely three months in.

[@enkephalin07]

To call yourself Zionist when you aren't even Jewish or Israeli sounds like pandering.

[@Adam-326]

Not really (I mean, they’re politicians, so it probably is), Zionist has a few meanings, but you could theoretically call someone a Zionist if they support the existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.

[@Tiasung]

@@Adam-326 No, I agree with them that its pandering. Few people that are pro-israel would call themselves zionist.. or even know of the word. Likewise, most neutral people wouldnt use the word either. And the sane people that are against israel wouldnt either. Its only people that really hate israel or jews with a passion that really use the word.

[@enkephalin07]

@@Adam-326 Zionism is an ideology that doesn't necessarily represent all of Israel. It's like sucking up to the UK by proclaiming yourself Tory, who also aren't political sterling at the moment.

[@andrewp3636]

Truss is a brainless puppet, you wouldn't expect anything less from her.

[@andybrice2711]

Not necessarily. There are a lots of Christians who are ardent supporters of Israel. And also many people who consider it a vital ally in military strategy and geopolitical influence.

[@Israelpwn]

It always astonishes me how you guys manage to report news in a well-mannered and (seemingly to me, anyway) unbiased manner, especially on extremely controversial topics. Been following you since the Brexit days. Makes one wonder why mainstream media can't do the job you're doing so well ...

[@Eltener123]

The most insane thing to me was that we allowed them to develop nuclear weapons with no push back or repercussion

[@reverseengineeredbot3387]

Ah yes because a country being attacked first for 75 years doesn't need to be able to defend itself. Just admit ur a terrorist lover

[@SD352-68]

The French basically gave nukes to them

[@vorong2ru]

What do u mean "allowed". They have all rights to protect themselves from endless terror and nuclear has nothing to do with it. They are going to use it against Iran if needed, not against the territory they live on.

[@dev.tirebit]

​@@vorong2ruSome of the israeli government disagree with you. Israel is a terror state that is committing genocide and rejected every chance of piece for 75 years. These are facts that the world is finally realizing.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

@@vorong2ru iran has right to defend themself and make nuke of their own.

[@aliasgur3342]

"Are we the bad guys?"

[@LocalCryptidGhostdoll]

20,000 Dead changes the math a little huh

[@davidty2006]

It's not like theres over half a million dead on the european continent in a full scale war. Also media really likes misquoting since last i checked what Cameron was calling for was a sustainable lasting peace for the entire conflict....

[@EpsilonNPC]

How much of this is because the Houthi scaring of BP tankers from taking the suez canal route?

[@Cussie3]

Their support is coincidentally waning as the oil company's have stopped their shipments through the Red Sea due to attacks... their donors are losing money, so now they'll back a ceasefire....

[@shahofalbion]

"Why are you obsessed with a formula that never worked" she says. Well the thing is, in order to know if it works, you actually have to y'know...do it. Maybe it wont work and we are being over optimistic. But we cant be certain until we try.

[@illegitimateotaku794]

"the formula never worked" she says. I wonder why! When u impose an embargo on Palestine, refuse to do anything about Israeli settlers, kick Palestinians off their land systematically, and for years reject a two state solution, it's no wonder the formula hasn't worked.

[@YuruCampSupermacy]

And the oslo accords were never implemented because after signing them the Israeli PM was shot and killed by a far right israeli

[@kwiatw]

Lol. "From the river to the sea" you have problems with English or you just pretend to not hear when Palestinians shout that they are not interested in the two state solution. There were few peace deals offered in the past they always reject them. Learn some history.

[@Spojo1]

Israel pulled out of Gaza and received terror attacks for it. That's why the walls around Gaza were built. The two state solution is dead. Arguing for it is bad faith until Palestinian leadership and people actually call for it. But they are not. They do not accept Israel as a neighbour. If you were Israeli would you be comfortable tearing down the walls so your neighbours could attack you repeatedly? What do you actually suggest Israel does to try? Everything they have done to give more to Gaza or come to agreements has backfired and resulted in terror attacks. It goes back to the old saying. You cant negotiate with terrorists.

[@kingofhearts3185]

It was tried and failed. The palestinians have rejected the 2 state solution and elected terrorists who call for the eradication of jews. And everytime they try this, it just results in israel getting bigger.

[@noel4541]

Nice Video. A small correction: The German Foreign Minister is called Annalena Baerbock (not Anna-Lisa) :)

[@pikapi6993]

lmao 😂

[@sirrobinofloxley7156]

Comes to something when an unelected foreign Prime Minister gets to dictate what Britain wants or doesn't want.

[@SarahTheNearlyInSP]

Sorry, are you talking about Sunak...??

[@joooja]

Keep protesting, keep boycotting

[@ChaosBlast123]

I’m already furious after listening to the first 10 seconds. “When Hamas launched its invasion.” How tone deaf and ironic is this statement?

[@inverlane1939]

Both Sunak and Starmers stance since October 7th has been appalling. They have made it completely clear that they don’t represent the majorities views or wishes on really important issues. As another comment stated, I would also like a detailed explanation, as to why they were prepared to support a violent right wing apartheid regime? My respect for Sunak ceased the moment he stood next to Netanyahu and simpered ‘I hope you win’. It was obvious the scale of carnage that would follow and he gave his complete support.

[@qwertymehta8342]

I dislike Starmer so much. He's just another soulless establishment drone.

[@brucebanksshow]

I wasn't paying attention to the details of this case but after your video I actually am now more convinced he shouldn't be on the ballot if that's the best defense he can make. That's an incredibly weak defense.

[@The8Ronin]

Really shows you the power of the Israeli Lobby over the last 50 years especially

[@benknowles9633]

Welcome back ben ! Uts great to see ur back doing what you do so well 🍀👀💪

[@oniongingertomato2216]

Just a bunch of criminals

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

I don't know the history of the politicians behind the Israel conflict, but I'm assuming that Israeli politicians hadn't been going on far-right interviews and calling children terrorists who "had it coming", before this war? That would have made it far more palatable, in the past.

[@lukajolich7669]

You had some if they were more in the Ben-Gvir camp who were pretty open about just wanting to get rid of Palestinians, but yeah, it was much more toned down and there were many less examples of civilians being targeted so it was easier for them to downplay it.

[@Secret_Moon]

@@harrtybb At this point, they just want to live.

[@clariskitty7525]

@@harrtybb They actually also want justice but it feels too greedy right now

[@ibrahimn.606]

Israeli public, and therefore their representatives, have shifted more and more to the right in recent decades. Israeli governments were pretty socialist some time back, and former PMs even privately favored two state solution. These days whoever doesn’t absolutely oppose a Palestinian state can kiss goodbye to a political career in Israel.

[@ghosthunter0950]

@@lukajolich7669 Ben Gvir was toned down BECAUSE Israelis weren't about that. he had to change his song completely to get those votes.

[@something_]

INVASION!!!!!! i didn't see their fighter jets!!!!

[@mohammadshahidhusaini3122]

20,000 dead Palestinians.. Even now if calling for ceasefire is raising eyebrows.. It should raise question on your sanity?

[@thematthew761]

As an American, I think as we have so massively influenced the situation in Israel and the region for decades, the burden should be on us to help undo our mistakes.

[@zurielsss]

You gonna relocate all zionists to USA?

[@EbonySaints]

I wish, but American politics and the distressingly large influence of AIPAC and various other lobbying groups will make anything approaching appeasement be anathema to all the big donors and voter base.

[@Azrael1st]

Undo the USA first and fix that trash pile.

[@KarakuraNinja]

I hope America is free from zionists. The people of America are far greater than those current politicians. As an arab I like a lot of their achievements. FDR founded the UN and helped bring the world to a better place.

[@macnab8857]

US gives billions to Isreal every year, some of that money is channeled back to AIPAC & ADL for them to grease the palms of American politicians, red and blue. So really its the American tax payers who have been duped and been paying for this sorry state of affairs all the while.

[@goingoutotheparty1]

Lots of interesting background here , thanks TLDR ❤

[@benji-pj4dp]

8,317-13,190 civilians died in coalition airstikes against isis. The west doesn't have a leg to stand on judging israel after what just happened to them.

[@filipe5722]

It absolutely does. Previous crimes don't excuse current crimes.

[@Spojo1]

@@filipe5722 You are right. However tell that to Hamas supporters who say they were justified on Oct 7th because of "75 years of occupation" or "the Nakba". War has a cost. People need to realise that. Collateral is an unfortunate and legal reality of war. Israel has a responsibility for its own people not its enemies. It does more than most countries to minimise civilian deaths even though it has no responsibility to do so.

[@thisismetoday]

Why are they supporting US in the Red Sea then?

[@ThePerks2010]

Ever noticed that Sunak always looks like he's worried they're going to jump the table and hit him? Never looks comfortable around foreign leaders...

[@djoldschool]

Just check the American policy - the UKs won’t differ

[@andrewp3636]

One big reasons for this new position is to ultimately put pressure and attention back on supporting Ukraine while avoiding an oil crisis.

[@fantasypvp]

Not sure that's their intention but sure that's one positive that comes from this

[@GlynBryan]

Sunak thinks the solution to everything is to do NOTHING. What, if anything, has this useless clerk achieved as Prime Minister?

[@unibks4382]

Hamas invaded Israel??? The French Resistance invaded Germany in world war II.

[@PeleSahota]

"Invasion of Israel" errr.... where is Israel's border exactly??? Isisrael is quite obscure about its borders....

[@KarakuraNinja]

Somewhere within palestine.

[@adamali1976]

Invasion of Israel? Give me a break

[@BeanFace-oj2en]

When the owner pulls the string the puppet swings

[@thisismetoday]

7:30 Who can choose the "type of people" living in their neighbouring country? HOW is it Is.'s right to choose this in the first place? They are removed from reality at this point!!

[@MrGumball_]

Palestine 🇵🇸

[@ianmccuaig9867]

His family have massive investments in Israel

[@joefortey4]

Oh Truss would call herself "a huge Zionist" 🤦

[@haruruben]

What the Israelis have done in response to Oct 7th attack has become excessive

[@TristanBanks]

Israel has always used excessive force thats why there is so much opposition to their presence in the middle east.

[@Samopesh]

7:21 wow this woman really just said “we only want ‘the right kind of people’” with a straight face

[@neilmartin7776]

Except that's not what she said. Her actual words were, "what type of Palestinians are on the other side" - meaning are they going to be neighbours who live peacefully alongside Israel, or are they just going to continue as they have for the longest time and fire rockets into Israel on the daily? In her position, I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask.

[@mofra]

you lie with a straight face. this is not what she said and she totally correct that all should seek pals neighbours who want live peacefully alongside Israel. it was a surprise but massacres leads to big conflicts. for some unexplained reason israel is not willing to allow its citizen be killed or kidnaped.

[@tzvi7989]

Essentially the conservatives are acting like every british government post-1917. Also netanyahu should replace tzipi with mark regev again as ambassador to the uk. It might be that what tzipi is saying is true (and most of it is) but she really speaks publicly like someone whos never had (western) media training and can't keep her cool - not a great for an advocate of Israel

[@amiray8856]

Can’t blame her, how can you advocate for that state without looking crazy unless your lying through your teeth

[@mohammedalshaikhli3891]

They are evils.

[@thisismetoday]

0:03 H did not "launch an invasion of Isr.". That's never what that was....

[@user-kq9hr2hk3c]

UK abstained in UN vote recently. The damage is done. Sunak can change his stance now but all too late. They supported the wrong side. 20,000 plus dead. Unforgiveable. Should face charges for complicity.

[@han9488]

fr. nothing significant has changed in real terms in Gaza since before the ceasefire vote. their obvious selfishness in the face of genocide is shocking

[@jchan9761]

Someone needs to rectify the mistakes of Balfour and the ghosts of Tories’ past.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Well to be fair, everyone is annoyed or pissed at Netanyahu.

[@user-zt3hq5qn5k]

Coz Yemen blocked their 4sses.

[@filipe5722]

I'm not sure if I should be more amazed by the fact that Israel was able to squander most of the sympathy it garnered or the fact that it is still allowed to abuse it to exercise ethnic cleansing instead of their right to self defense.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

antisemitism!! holocaust denier!!

[@BigPurp9]

It was never about self defence

[@danm.8749]

That is not what is happening, they are evacuating civilians from the battle zone in northern Gaza.

[@Adam-326]

@@BigPurp9Yes it was, it always was. Resistance will always result in further losses for one specific side… but people don’t really care about that part. They don’t have to face the consequences.

[@Adam-326]

There is no ethnic cleansing going on, people like you are making things worse by promoting that nonsense.

[@tshawtshi3040]

"Hamas invasion of Israel" like saying when Ukraine attacks mainland Russia "Ukraine invasion of Russia"

[@Jonas_M_M]

Thatcher BASED

[@NH_HN]

Wtf does ‘sustainable ceasefire’ even mean? Unless it means an immediate ceasefire it’s just meaningless buzzwords. The only sustainable ceasefire Netanyahu is comfortable with is one that occurs after he’s completely wiped out and driven out Palestinians. He won’t even stop there, he’s moving in on Lebanon, too.

[@enurii]

That Ambassador is shameful, rude, hostile, and she knows her country is in the wrong they all do.

[@Stilllife1999]

Yes, and she stands firmly with the things they are doing

[@googane7755]

She is a lunatic and exposing just how insane the israeli cabinet is.

[@YuruCampSupermacy]

That is an understatement she is a genocidal warmonger

[@mdog2501]

She's a disgrace.

[@danl5592]

Sunak has to support his doners😂

[@CARL_093]

in cold war in the middle east particularly in yomkepur war oil was used as a weapon against america until now

[@antonmihoc4109]

We will not forgive Sunak, no mater what he does now.

[@maxbull2946]

What Israel is doing is not human.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

TL;DR ignoring that the last two cease fires have been broken by Hamas.

[@techtinkerin]

No they're only pro themselves

[@malcolmmitchell6529]

They will cling on for DEAR LIFE to whatever they think will save them

[@Neocyberman1]

Missing in this analysis is how much of this is down to effective protesting by the people of the UK and the nature of the conflict reaching journalists via Palestinian brits and their families

[@vorong2ru]

Oh yeah when pro-terror supporters are sitting in BBC and brainwashing Brits into all their propoganda. Pathetic.

[@Lookingfornewzealand]

2:12 Golan is a part of Syria and always will be, it’s not controversial. Literally the entire world recognizes it as part of Syria except the US and its favorite ally

[@tzvi7989]

Lmao incorrect. It is Israeli. That's the price the Syrian regime paid for attacking Israel in 1967

[@Lookingfornewzealand]

@@tzvi7989 No matter how much you pretend it is and no matter how much the US twirks to “Israel”. Golan heights will never be “Israeli”

[@tzvi7989]

@@Lookingfornewzealand lmao I suppose you think Gdansk should belong to Germany then since it was also acquired by Poland in the same way...

[@Lookingfornewzealand]

@@tzvi7989Saying Golan is a part of “Israel” is a fucking joke, go tell it to the rest of the world who all recognize it as a part of Syria. From Wikipedia: “US's move resulted in condemnation, criticism or rejection from the European Union,[13][14][15] United Kingdom, Germany, France, Belgium, Spain, Poland, South Africa, Turkey, Egypt, the Arab League, Russia,[5][16][17] Ireland,[18] Saudi Arabia,[19] Oman,[20] the United Arab Emirates,[21] Bahrain,[22] Qatar,[23] Kuwait,[24] Jordan,[25] Iraq,[26] Iran,[27] Mauritania,[28] Morocco,[29] Tunisia,[30] Somalia,[31] Lebanon,[32] Japan,[33] Cuba,[34] Venezuela,[35] Indonesia,[36] Canada,[37] Pakistan,[38] Sudan,[39] Malaysia,[40] Vietnam,[41] and China.[42]” and “It was condemned by a number of countries and organizations, including the United Nations and the European Union” that is literally everyone

[@user-iz2tq3dx5d]

The Golan is Syrian As much As Taiwan is a part of China

[@hectorheath9742]

Dunno but I'm now zero tory.👎

[@Mikey72182]

*Now you're zero Tory? So you was before...you should be ashamed and embarrassed for supporting such an evil, corrupt, classist, almost facist party.*

[@zkol3287]

You forgot about the major Muslim and palestine population living in the UK.

[@Bruce954]

7:58. Is she actually aware that Israel has the same view, but then applying on themself? That they want the Palestinians (who have lived there much longer than her family in Israel) to move to Sinai in Egypt... That must say enough.

[@Spojo1]

That's not really true. They offered the two state solution multiple times. Palestinians rejected it every single time. People who argue for the two state solution currently are doing it in bad faith. Its not a viable solution until the mentality amongst Palestinians shifts towards accepting their neighbours. Until that point Israel has no option other than to occupy for security. The biggest issue that Israel can address is cracking down on illegal and radical settlers more. And not granting permits for them. Cameron is right that the lack of crack down on settlers does undermine the political situation. Its also the only credible and fair criticism people have as an argument against Israel's actions.

[@sinom]

She herself is literally arguing for getting rid of Palestinians in Israel and Palestine in this interview so she very much knows that she just doesn't care. Many Zionists believe it's their god given right to own that whole area and push our anyone who was already living there similar to how the US was justifying a lot of their genocides and expansionism with their "manifest destiny"

[@Bruce954]

@@Spojo1 You can deny facts and try to give it an Israeli spin, but facts is that Palestine exists longer than Israel does. Israel was given the land by the Brits in 1947, after the 1917 Balfour Decleration. In that decleration Balfour promised a future Jewish state in Palestine. Nothing was asked to the people who lived there already for generations (don't come with the crap about Palestinians not living there for a long time and all the other bs), but it was forced upon them. You can point at a 2-state solution, but without Western colonialsm there wasn't even a solution needed; Israel wouldn't even exist at all. What is to accept if the other country is taking your land, is keeping your people hostage, can turn the power and watersupply off whenever they want to and actually have roads unaccesable for Palestinians. Israel doesn't even consider Palestine could be an equal country. Why would they actually invade the West Bank and force Palestinians out of their homes, take over their farmlands? Take actually the overall power in the Westbank, while this area should be Palestinian terratory? You were talking about illegal settlers and that it should be cracked down more, with no permits for new settlements. Maybe it would also be a good idea to not hand out machine guns to the people living in the settlements already.

[@Spojo1]

@@Bruce954 This is laughable. Trying to speak on facts and missing key information. The kingdom of Israel is older than Islam. A huge portion of Israeli Jews are native to the middle east and this region specifically. Palestine is the name the Romans used for the region known as Israel. They are the same thing. Palestinians are descendants of various middle eastern refugees of other ethnicities. Some are from that region. Many are from other parts of the middle east. But Palestinian is not an ethnicity. Its a made up modern grouping. The West bank includes historic Jewish settlements like Hebron and Jenin. Why are ancestral Jews not allowed to return to their homeland? Everyone should have the right to live there in peace. What happened in 1948 is the result of Muslim intolerance. That war was started by Arab nations and Palestinians that could not accept Jews as their neighbours. This conflict isn't about ethnicity. Its about religion. There are plenty of Arabs with full rights in Israel. If there weren't radicals causing issues all people in the region could live in peace throughout the land. That goes for both Palestinian extremists and radical Jewish settlers. Both are problems. One does not accept the existence of Israel as a state and the rights of Jewish people. The other seeks to forcibly take their ancestral homeland back through violence and intolerance. Both ideologies are incompatible with peace. Until they are gone no two state or other solution will be possible.

[@Bruce954]

@@Spojo1, that is a pity. For you I mean. I only stated facts. For the Palestinians etnicity is the most important reason to have the right on that land. For Israel it is a book, which for many is nothing more than plain fantasy. I can also write a book, claiming land as very important for my people. Let's say I write a book about the area Greater London and say that the land is promised to my people. Can I claim that region as mine, forcing the people living in that area out, since it was promised to me and thus my homeland? Because that is just the way people claim land, based on their religion. Everyone should have the right to live in peace. That was the case in that area. Before 1947. Before Israel excisted.

[@harlequinems]

Civilised countries should never support Theocratically run countries. If they want help they should pray to their god.

[@The_Stef]

Huh??

[@LukVik]

Stop monotheistic religions!!!

[@maavet2351]

which one

[@LukVik]

@@maavet2351 All of them!!!

[@Azrael1st]

Uk can be blamed for most of the worlds problems.

[@SkamGame]

Tories and less ethnic cleansing? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

[@MkEpicness]

If hamam and the Palestinians actually wanted less people to do they should plead for a full surrender of the Gaza strip and flee. They are not winning this war

[@mistermood4164]

Gazan aren't leaving. Israel has no plans for gaza.

[@mr_sanchez]

Fun Fact: You're proposing a stage of genocide. This has also been done to Rohingyian people. Mass displacement is a form of genocide.

[@ronkoren9171]

i seriously cant understand why the UN expects israel to agree to a ceasefire when the hostages have not been returned yet? it doesnt make sense.. it should be hamas that surrenders not israel.

[@farhanrafi8481]

There are 129 hostages left. a few dozens of hostages have been returned with the temporary ceasefire. Meanwhile, 20 THOUSANDS Palestinians are dead and over 90% Gazans are now homeless, but surely you dont care about that. The permanent ceasefire agreement means that violence stops from both end, including the return of hostages. Based on the past 60+ days, it is clear that Israel is far more violent than Hamas EVER was.

[@johjoh1203]

​@@farhanrafi8481 if more people died in the war to end a genocide than in the genocide itself, would that justify not stopping the genocide? Hamas started the conflict and Israel is eliminating Hamas. Expecting war to be clean and without collateral damage is absurd.

[@mr_sanchez]

​@@johjoh1203That's delusional. They bomb civil buildings with 2000lb bombs. Even the US didn't do that in Iraq. Also they killed three hostages, they do not care. The Israeli government does not care about hostages, Hamas (in fact they let them act in public for years against ANY sensible advice from security agencies) and just want the land. Netanjahu is saying that in public.

[@zurielsss]

Because 20000 people are dead, half are children

[@LukVik]

@@johjoh1203 Netanyahu funded Hamas 😢!!!

[@asha8443]

That woman ambassador seems like a piece of work who sounded irate and hell bent on imposing her bs on the reporter

[@julienmercier2114]

The Conservative party used to support apartheid South Africa as well.

[@alex-simpson]

It's encouraging to see worldwide politicians standing up against genocide.

[@megaham1552]

It's called war

[@houseplant1016]

​@@megaham155220k civilians dead, from which majority women, elderly and children isn't war. The fact they shot 3 unarmed Israelis who were holding a white flag shows how blood thirsty they're acting.

[@megaham1552]

​@@houseplant1016How many do we know are civilians? How do we know the actual numbers? We're just going off what Hamas says

[@magma9000]

Bro Zionist bots on their way to the comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidmcculloch8490]

​@@megaham1552Not true...verified by the UN. Do you run an excuse factory?

[@isokabooks3758]

Invasion? A raid is not an invasion. Tories are not alone in realizing that Bibi's revenge is genocidal, pestilential and nazistic.

[@cameronsmith4827]

That ad transition was probably the worst that you guys have ever done

[@megaham1552]

If you read what Cameron said he doesn't call for a permanent ceasefire

[@user-kq9hr2hk3c]

No he doesn't. And Blinken useless as he just incites more violence every time he opens his mouth! Everyone says " Israel must protect civilians and work within Humanitarian Law". That's green light for IDF to kill even more. And the starvation imposed on Gaza? Every Humanitarian Law has been ignored.

[@Justa_summerthing]

i don’t support anyone, i just want ppl to stop dying

[@vorong2ru]

So Gazans shouldn't have attacked Israel. Everything has its own consequences and people shouldn't start a war if they don't want to die.

[@filipe5722]

@@vorong2ru Hamas terrorists attacked Israel. Israel is now terrorizing Gaza and are letting Hamas mostly of the hook. In the end, both Hamas and Israel are two sides of the same coin, both profit economically and politically with the conflict, always at the expense of the innocent Palestinians.

[@Blue_red]

​@@vorong2ru im sorry to inform it you,but your argument is flawed in soo many levels

[@vorong2ru]

@@Blue_red I'm sorry to inform you but you should learn a bit of history. You can start with 20th century and just see how many times Muslim Arabs launched terror attacks on Jews and how many times they were getting a hit back crying they were the victims.

[@museli_addict]

@@vorong2ru From a military analyst viewpoint, it was completely obvious what was going to happen after Oct 7th.

[@cheezus4772]

Its interesting how no politician has asked Israel what their solution is if not two states. Probably because the current Israel government is just crazy enough to admit what they actually want - a "final solution" to the Palestinian people.

[@Adam-326]

The Palestinian Question* But the current government of Gaza seeks the same regarding the Israelis (and the government of the West Bank will stand by and let it happen), so it’s all fair.

[@bothi00]

​@@Adam-326at this point, I can't even tell if that's sarcasm

[@vorong2ru]

Israel offered two state solution not once but three times and they were all rejected by so called Palestinians (Muslim Arabs). Israel has no option but to protect itself from endless terrorism coming from Arabs, no matter if they have their own state or not.

[@WhichDoctor1]

@@Adam-326 the difference is, one is a terrorist group who last won an election 17 years ago before most of the current Gasen population was able to vote and with no power to achieve their supposed goals. While the other is a democracy run by a democratically elected government and ally of the west with a modern army perfectly capable of achieving that end if they choose to. Democracies shouldn't be allowed to act like insane terrorists just because they are fighting terrorists And it's not like the far right Israelis wouldn't want to exterminate the Palestinians even if Hamas never existed. It is their stated intent to recreate the historic state of Israel from the river to the sea under the rule of Jews and for Jews alone. That's why they've been stealing land in the west bank for the past 50 years. Their goal from right back then was to take every bit of land that they consider their god promised them 3000 years ago and the people already living there could leave or die. They are religious fundamentalist terrorists. They just happened to have created Hamas in their own image in Gasa to help further their own goals

[@Blue_red]

​@@vorong2ru nice sprinkle of racism and western propaganda right there

[@jacksteven781]

One state with seating allocation directly disproportionate to population sizes. Cyprus as an example for one state. European Parliament as an example for disproportionate seat allocation

[@imankhandaker6103]

Are they being paid less for their support?

[@davidwebb4904]

Government are so humane when it comes to the boat people, but could not care less about thousands of babies unaliving in Gaza. Why? People the stance the Tories are taking is very profitable, for themselves.

[@danm.8749]

You are quoting the H.a.m.a.s "health ministry" statistics, you cant be serious.

[@Adam-326]

@@danm.8749Those statistics are probably accurate, though. Even Israeli officials have corroborated them.

[@MohammedAhmed-iy4gp]

@@danm.8749 UN have literally verified the numbers

[@Adam-326]

@@danm.8749It also doesn’t make any difference whether it was 1.000 or 100.000. He was just saying that the government’s policies aren’t about “humanitarian aid” but rather about staying in power.

[@WhichDoctor1]

​@@danm.8749 In every previous conflict, the death and injury numbers provided by the Gaza health ministry have been proven remarkably accurate after the fact and have lined up with those produced by Israel. And in this current conflict the USA estimates the death toll is higher than that reported by the Gazens

[@WhatDemocracy]

Shame on israel

[@kreme2705]

With the cost of living the last time I was in England, why is the head of state flying to Israel on a military jet?

[@lenwilkinson672]

What the heck did the P.M. need to bring Cameron into government.?

[@jordansmith3809]

From the river to the sea palestine will be free

[@kingofhearts3185]

They will be freed from the world of the living at this rate, and bring it on themselves for consistently rejecting a 2 state solution and electing genocidal terrorists. But you don't actually care about that, do you?

[@dropyourself]

​@@kingofhearts3185they did support the two state solution for decades but Israel was the one who stopped it time and time again. Also first off, the average age in Gaza is 18 the "election" occurred when these people were either yet to be born or less than two. Second, do you think Americans deserve to be killed for electing war criminals who have committed coups and illegal invasions? That's absurd if you do. Also the only people committing genocide are the people bombing hospitals and schools.

[@b62boom1]

Israeli ministers always come across as super aggressive and really angry.

[@Tiasung]

You would probably be too if you were fighting for your countries survival when most of the world is against you. More and more people are waking up to the real stakes and fight, but by far most, havent yet.

[@rappakalja5295]

​@@TiasungDon't call it the "country's survival". They're fighting to maintain their colony and the reason their support is declining every month is for the same reason the world finally stopped supporting South Africa. Israeli politicians are angry because the world is waking up to just how abhorrent their actions have been since 1948.

[@KarakuraNinja]

Israel flooded propaganda into mainstream media and lobbied politicians but their hold on social media has been weak. That's why it's now breaking. They are invaders. If the same thing happened to Britain we would be mad.we already see the far right accuse Muslims of taking over when nothing happened lol.

[@user-lo6hu5bz7p]

What will the media do when this conflict is over? Report facts for a change.

[@tonyking9235]

WHO GIVE A CRAP WHAT SUNAK THINKS