Are There Any Honest Conservative Pundits? (w/ Ben Smith) | The Bulwark Podcast

[@itsjustme373]

It is not democrat vs republican it is sane vs insane, intelligent vs stupid, relatively normal vs stark raving mad, compassion vs hatred, I could go on but I’ll stop here.

[@lhoward9593]

Well said ... thanks

[@davebanister6310]

Well put!

[@Steven-pu8ws]

I agree, I just happen to believe that the majority of my fellow Americans are sane, intelligent, relatively normal and compassionate. The recent jury result in NYC could easily be viewed as supporting evidence. When required American citizens have always risen to the moment. Let the 🍊charlatan think about that fact.

[@carolynmack4017]

I think you flipped the adjectives so people might you are supporting sane, etc. Republicans and dissing insane, etc. Democrats

[@itsjustme373]

@@carolynmack4017 You’re right. Oops

[@whererosemaryflourishes]

As a social democrat I could never have guessed that George Conway would become one of my favourite people but its happening.

[@lhoward9593]

The streams have crossed to save our democracy! 😂

[@nancychandler3673]

Vote Biden/Harris 💙

[@SorbusAucubaria]

I do not agree on many things with him, but I agree with his trump views. And it was so satisfying to watch him call liars liars and then calling cnn twhen they give liars platform.

[@Lesliesez]

And Rick Wilson, Charlie Sykes and Nicolle Wallace 🤷‍♀️

[@okeeydokeeey321]

Same here

[@debrasmith4675]

George Conway is ‘the man’ of this time in history! Some people are born for ‘a time such as this’ and George is the first of a valiant breed. He is almost a biblically inspired character. He’s no wimpy pretty boy but he has the strategic smarts to lead. He is like Gideon speaking truth when it is most needed with a micro band of warriors! He puts his money where his mouth is. He had to stand up to the mother of his children to speak truth. That is commitment to truth. He calls a filthy liar out to his face. He urged E. Jean Carole to stand up for justice and he stood with her all the way. Stand with him and watch things change. Go George. Integrity is beautiful.

[@ingehanson]

He could see through the bull. After voting for Trump in 2016 I saw all kinds of stuff I did not like in the beginning but pushed it aside, but after a while especially during Covid I saw plenty I could no longer stand. I thought that Fauci was a very dark character from the start could not believe that Trump let him run the entire show. The "warp speed" vaccines was the last straw. He did not stop the extreme Left, he made them stronger. He destroyed the GOP, took them over and orders them around. If they don't do as he says they are out adn are treated like Lepers by MAGA. So the Republicans have two choices right now - resign and lose your position or become a mindless Trump zombie. Very few if any are courageous enough to stand up and fight.

[@pepotalmario5326]

Yes!

[@frederickkrewson638]

Truth!

[@Mikejamiew]

Perhaps George should run for office!💙

[@twopawsuphappycampfordogs5866]

Honestly, the Democrats have dignity and respect. I don’t want the Democrats to stoop to the level of the Republican Party. It disgusts me. So I give Biden a lot of credit for holding back and not saying much. He can have his say in a debate if Trump actually shows up.a big part of the people that vote for Biden is because he has respect and dignity and does not act like Trump.

[@njosborne6152]

Did You mean, “The Felon Trump!” is not to be followed!?? MAGA 👉🏼 make attorneys, get attorneys?

[@Kerry-uo6og]

I agree completely. We're going to have to offer an olive branch but personally, I can't stomach the idea.

[@ColtHarding]

If he doesn't show up, also great. Just an hour long speech a la state of the union for Biden.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

I don’t think silence is good enough against a man like trump. We can have dignified responses but too little is not gonna work. We need more surrogates like Jasmine Crockett.

[@dfuher968]

U can speak the truth and call him a criminal, a convicted felon, without stooping to Trumps level. U can speak the truth about, who Trump is, and what he wants to do, without stooping to Trumps level. U can do that with dignity and respect, but it MUST be done. Withholding the truth from the voters is the most disrespectful thing, u can do. And against an opponent, who just makes sh*t up and accuses u of all kinds of crimes and insanities, u MUST speak up. If Biden wont speak up for himself, how can we expect him to speak up for us?

[@asynchronicity]

George Conway cuts through the crap! 🇺🇸💪

[@James-hd4ms]

Keep his ex-wife out your mouth.

[@750dollarman2]

He is too real for a few CNN hosts

[@sue27june04]

​@@James-hd4ms😅😅😅

[@rosemariem38]

Your optimism about the resilience of Americans and their commitment to preserving democratic institutions is inspiring. The idea of renaming mainstream media to "Fact-Based Media" emphasizes the importance of reliable, evidence-based journalism in maintaining an informed citizenry. Ensuring that the media remains a trustworthy source of information is crucial for a healthy democracy.

[@dag-nabbit]

As a Bernie girl, never Donald. I voted Joe 2020 and will do so again. Choices are stark and most Bernie SANDERS voters were not BernieBros.

[@James-hd4ms]

The Democratic Party blew it in 2016. No Trump presidency. Covid handled. Would be winding down his triumphant second term. Everything would better.

[@dianthaweilepp5294]

​@@James-hd4msSo vote Democrat this time. This is hard to figure out?

[@James-hd4ms]

@@dianthaweilepp5294 you’re missing the point.

[@sandraavalos5724]

Agreed, love Bernie! Vote for Joe, not the psycho

[@catpaladin1]

I wrote Bernie in but I was in California so I knew the state would go to Clinton. 2020 I voted Biden. 2024 I will only vote blue because I am now in NC and we have some BS crazy politicians here.

[@janetshew5028]

As an 86 year old activist, I am not as invisible as your survey would indicate. Keep up your stimulating conversations.

[@ShakesSphere]

Hey, watch it there!! I'm 68 and watching you for news!! ❤

[@patriciawickman4687]

💙

[@terryarmstrong8598]

Ford's biggest controversy/scandal was pardoning Nixon. In hindsight, holding Nixon legally accountable might have changed where we now find ourselves. Or maybe not. Nixon's major legacy is a sense of cynicism about government and politics. "Government is the problem, not the solution." < cough > Ford was a decent man and a relatively okay president, but pardoning Nixon was his biggest error in judgment. It haunts us to this day.

[@judileeming1589]

I would also say that the release of demographic predictions in the 1980’s has brought America to this state. 40 years ago demographics showed that WASPs would be in the minority about now seriously undermining their control of power and that sparked the planning to move towards an authoritarian government. The birth of social media and a the emergence of a corrupt populist gave them the perfect “tools” to manipulate people and undermine the electoral process.

[@ma4450]

Actually, it was Reagan who brought in the "government is the problem" mentality. Nixon would have had a pretty good legacy if he hadn't blown it up out of sheer paranoia and malice. The EPA; opening up diplomatic relations with China; restoring autonomy to Native Americans; the Endangered Species Act---the Republican right despised him for those things.

[@nomadpurple6154]

If you think there was not cynicism of government and politics before Nixon then you clearly know little of history or have any appreciation that people of the long gone past were just like us. Do you think everyone loved every US president before him? Did you not know of the slimey backroom deals they did? The founders were not a pantheon of Gods, they were politicians, rich men, greedy to have power for themselves (see the lack of rights for women or those of different backgrounds).

[@yapdog]

Kasie Hunt gave up the game: _"We will not go there, George! Scott is a colleague!"_ When it's all about the big money ratings game, and not about journalism, you will pay political operatives to blatantly lie to the American public. To quote Jon Stewart: _"You are hhhurting America!"_

[@ShadesGameSource]

To add to your point, Kasie allowed George to call Scott a liar for like 45 seconds. The second George questioned why CNN was paying Scott to lie, Kasie jumped into defend her "colleague". George Conway is THE MAN! I have so much respect for that guy.

[@yapdog]

@@ShadesGameSource You are so right! She *did* only come after George when he told the truth about CNN. I don't know why more KZbinrs aren't talking about this point. Yo, I have mad respect for George Conway now, too.

[@Steven-pu8ws]

In the end, the broad swath of the American people are not idiots, nor are they MAGA extremists or partisans at all cost. My faith in Americans tells me that a sufficient number will resist putting a convicted felon in the White House who is running on a platform to destroy all institutions and the rule of law. 🗳️💙🇺🇸

[@bettycarter8339]

Well said.

[@darthsebio1726]

🤞...

[@willwebster8711]

Yup, combine the facts as you lay them out with Women's Rights, and it won't matter a lick what the current polls say. The GOP will be lucky if they are not totally obliterated in both Houses and the Executive.

[@marcy3098]

From your lips to God's ears

[@Steven-pu8ws]

@@willwebster8711 I agree that issues will definitely matter, and that the suburban voter and independent voters who are likely to decide this election will be repelled by the extreme Trump/MAGA agenda. They will come to life this fall.

[@DaveK385]

When you're locked into winning at all costs, then lying and cheating seem like small prices to pay, for some people. And I'm 70 years old and I'm watching The Bulwark on KZbin.

[@sue27june04]

This 68 year old is with you. Love Tim Miller.

[@HoneyDems]

All Media should be Aimed at Trump. Because Trump is the kind of leader who would make USA listen to him ramble BULL SHIT day & Night.

[@merricat3025]

They won't, though.

[@michaelgiordano1004]

Being fooled by Trump, can be forgiven. Ignoring his character, crimes, corruption, failures, lying, stealing and disregard for our laws will not be forgiven.

[@wethepeople2023]

Sounds like a threat.

[@makalipo]

One of the things that’s surprised me the most about Trump & his reprehensible movement, is how few mainstream Republicans like George Conway, have publicly rejected & disavowed Trump & MAGA. I applaud those who have, but what does it say about the GOP as a whole, that so few have the values, ethics, & moral courage to renounce Trump? Most have either gladly joined him, or silently acquiesced.

[@KathyDennis-fy3bg]

Conway's comments were brilliant!

[@justinlinnane8043]

they were ! he burst their bubble with the obvious question . Why are you paying liars to lie to your own audience ??

[@Currabell]

Conway said what I would imagine the majority of viewers were screaming at the TV.

[@TheProsaicCult]

Does Ben Smith know any better than us on how goes anything political? Biden's multiple responses to the verdict were spot on. Joe Biden has more going for him than any of the folks doubting his chances for re-election. The ongoing "drip-drip" by opinionatos always lamenting Biden's shortcomings has a huge effect on independent voters most of whom have little or no idea about the great things Biden has accomplished. Why not re-focus your topics in that direction.

[@iamanomas]

I’m 78, female and off the grid re cable and satellite TV. I stream and look for all kinds of content. I blame the media for all the shit that’s been happening the last 25 years and now I’m blaming all the voices and influencers for continuing the shit.

[@janebrady1389]

I am a 78 year old woman and I loved this exchange 👏🇺🇸

[@carolynmack4017]

I loved George Conway calling the Trump shill a liar. He was correct! I generally don't watch CNN clips (no TV) on KZbin unless I like the guests. I'm 62, so I guess I am too young for TV now. My friends who are older do watch TV news.

[@debrahansen5537]

I'm a 72 year old Democrat. This the first GOP podcast I watch daily. Never thought that would happen. I came this way to see a reputable GOP podcast and was pleasantly surprised it wasn't like Fox!

[@stella-gx8ne]

Hey wait. I’m 70. Watching YOU GUYS. You all are discounting and being judgmental regarding this age group. Remember we have long memories of what has happened before you were born. We can be as disgusted and angry as you are with the GOP with good reason and history to call on. Stop the idea that anyone over 50 is not engaged.

[@patriciawickman4687]

Exactly

[@nancychandler3673]

We are very engaged. We are retired and have time to pay attention.

[@robynjeucken3391]

70 here from Australia, very engaged in US politics. The Trump effect is echoing in our own politics and media, and the world will be in a very dangerous position if he and his megalomaniac backers claim the WH again.💙💙💙💙💙

[@Doodelz02]

Representing the post-65 myself! I actually mirror the premise. I really WANT a cogent conservative position. George was spot on in that instance, unfortunately. Both side-ism needs to be managed by the reporting staff. If the "other side" is a lie, IT'S NOT THE OTHER SIDE!

[@candytangeman2638]

I'm engaged watching you but if you continue to slam those of us over 70, I will engage elsewhere

[@ZagiBob]

“When truth becomes obsolete, the Republic will die”

[@maryhershelman5200]

Strongly suggest Beau of the Fifth Column. He has fooled many Magats by his thumbnail. Clear and truly balanced coverage of whats happening.

[@travisjohnson622]

Ive seen this guy before in my stream a lot. He almost got removed from recommendations. lol. Something about his look, titles really can fool someone into thinking he may be saying one thing when hes actually saying another.

[@kcbh24]

Dude is so boring and overrated. No, thank you.

[@sandraavalos5724]

Love him! And Pod Save America guys.

[@maryhershelman5200]

@@kcbh24 life is boring you want to be entertained go elsewhere

[@kcbh24]

@@maryhershelman5200 I did. I do. No need to be bossy.

[@carolbulmer8253]

Tim, I quite liked this quiet, intelligent conversation with Ben Smith👏👏👏👏👏

[@mtnclimberut]

The whole CNN scene to me, as you've stated, examples PRECISELY the problem with mainstream media and journalism (what's left of it) today: they treat LIES and LIARS as meriting equal air time so viewers can 'decide'... but that isn't what it means to present a balanced set of opinions or ideas for people to choose between. LIES are not valid positions meriting journalistic deference, and BALD FACED LIARS are not guests brought on to present alternative opinions/views so viewers can make up their own minds. Liars should be asked to leave, the moment they begin their spewl of nonsense and lies, and viewers should be told that their guest was asked to leave because their programs are about educating on the facts and presenting different opinions about what those facts mean, or what should be done about them, if anything. Politicians would stop lying if they were treated this way on news and journalism media spots. We could then get back to the "actual" legitimate debate around solutions to facts, not whether the fact, or the lie, are more appealing to some in an audience.

[@Itried20takennames]

Except with the Internet, there is no real stop gap that can keep the liars out….not even journalists. The liars and fringe beliefs can make a YT channel, website, podcasts, etc. that look about as professional as the mainstream media. And these fringe and fake views have an audience….so some one will take advantage of that and tell people what they want to hear. I think the best is a system where people can point out lies or errors on in the news, submit them online and if the journalist or media can’t point to good faith evidence why they thought something was true, there is a moderate but escalating, percent-of-income fine for each lie, which will pay for an adjudication committee of journalists/fact checkers, and to those that submit the lies. Basically, the news channels need to get increasingly expensive “tickets” for each lie, and the various media can be ranked for honesty by the number of these tickets.

[@pepotalmario5326]

Well said. Thank you.

[@tylerrynberg]

👏

[@robertpraetorius4007]

she lists these techniques: de-centering (the article linked from this term quotes Ben Smith) the truth sandwich (start with the truth, indicate the lie, return to the truth) expose the device (rather than refute the lie, talk about the reason the lie exists - what larger political goals it serves) (I'd post a link outside, but yt don't like that. 3 search engines I tried give you Ms. Ben-Ghiat's article as the first hit if you search for "How to Push Back Against Propaganda")

[@andrewnewman9563]

Lying is not a point of view, it's manipulation.

[@WoodandSteel]

I'm 70 years old, and I gave up on cable TV about 4 years ago. My news collection is very scattered and from different media sources. I agree that you can't consider a source who is willing to Lie to protect Trump. You're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

[@Barbara-i7k1x]

People are tying themselves in knots over Trump--just what he wants. Why not say what you think? Remember how people responded to Christie? Thank God, someone is telling the truth! The more people do it, the more will do it.

[@travisjohnson622]

yeah, people deserve the truth. There worried of being viewed as "extreme" or "cobspiratorial" when the independents scout around and start catching up on whats been going on in the world of politics since they tuned out. No, tell it exactly how it is. Trump us a fascist and our whole way of life is threatened by himself and the stupid few who wish to vote him in. They just want their brown shirts.

[@CorvusTX]

Unfortunately, we have a large percentage of "Americans" with an aggressive disdain for facts and reality.

[@stevenrichardscott1622]

What is your service? You offer clearly sincere thinking out loud perspective intelligently done. Exactly the opposite of Maga "news" and the contrived legacy media. It is refreshing and informative.

[@primrosed2338]

Corporate Media keeps trying to be impartial to a subject that is not impartial at all. In dealing with the insane all you can really do is redirection.

[@inkedgemini]

At least Conway was being honest. Can't imagine what it is like for him to have been so close to the epicenter of all of this bullshit and watch it it become what it has become.

[@gecho194]

We should rename Mainstream Media to Fact Based Media.

[@slightlymadmom6532]

I call them propaganda tv

[@Terry-lh8cn]

Why? They're not always fact based.

[@gcro9206texanforever]

I have become progressively disappointed with mainstream media, and now will only listen to a few select programs

[@locktrump45up]

We should call media such as The Bulwark fact-based media and media such as The Epoch Times lies-based media (which is not conservative) but there are more than two categories, e.g., shameless both-sidesism media.

[@trippeddownthestairs8238]

I don't think that it is difficult AT ALL to cover Donald Trump! Meidastouch does an excellent job of it! They present what he says and does and they explain how and why it is dangerous, and they never present both sides of obvious lies. I think that it is difficult for mainstream media to cover Donald Trump because they have an obvious agenda to help him win the election to improve their ratings and get more clicks. Period.

[@JR-pr8jb]

MTN is mostly good (SUPERB in their legal analysis) but wastes a lot of time preaching to the choir, mocking Trump/MAGA, which is fun but accomplishes nothing.

[@joandolliedoyle775]

@@JR-pr8jbThe one thing Meidas Touch does that I like is that they highlighted Democrats pushing back. The likes of Jamie Raskin, Jared Moskowitz etc..

[@sarahnielsen2]

Tim you are serving me. I like hearing your intelligent urbane yet earthy take. I a 78 year old lifetime democrat who likes to stay sane by balancing my thinking. I like you am shocked and deeply saddened by what has become of the Republican Party.

[@joanfregapane8683]

There are some conservative voices that appear to be honest at least to the best of their ability. George Conway is definitely one. Michael Steele might be another. Beyond that, I have no idea.

[@asynchronicity]

Adam Kinzinger….

[@nancychandler3673]

Liz Cheney

[@kimgraham850]

Asa Hutchinson

[@katherinea.rodgers8366]

Thank you Tim. Great conversation!

[@beamusedrev]

Hey, I’m 73 and I’m watching you …. Love your work, BTW. ♥️😁

[@peggychristensen4819]

Me too. I’m 74

[@nancytempas6057]

I’m 71 and watch you all the time

[@patriciawickman4687]

💙

[@carolynmack4017]

If all I had was NY Times, Washington Post, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, I would still be wondering how ancient Biden manages to walk and talk at the same time. Oh, and I would also think Trump won 95% of the primary votes and that the Manhattan DA had no hope of convicting Trump. Mainstream, legacy, corporate media deserves what it gets.

[@laurenlundgren252]

There are other older folk who try to keep up with the changes in the tech and media worlds. I'm edging up on 77, yet here I am watching your pod on KZbin. I admit I don't like facebook or tiktok, but that's more to do with my personality and interests than my age. Please don't denigrate elders as a group, because we're no more monolithic than Latinos.

[@caroldillon790]

I love Tim Miller! Decent, kind, concerned, intelligent. I am still puzzled that he was ever a Republican and self-identified as conservative (and I know he still has leanings), but there is such a basic honesty and willingness to have a 2-way conversation that he has rapidly become my go-to source for what’s happening and to make me stop and consider how I personally feel about it (vs. knee jerk reactions). Personal interactions, respectful arguments and compromise for the greater good…we need more of this, please! And I say this as a 70 yr old lifelong liberal Dem who worked to get 18 yr olds the vote before I was eligible and who has remained completely obsessed with politics and issues always.

[@Dctosd]

Maybe cable news viewership skews older because people of certain ages know/remember that news/journalism is a public service in a democracy, and not entertainment.

[@catpaladin1]

My 85yo father and I do NOT watch MSM. We are here on MT, TB, and others. We see the MSM for the crap they’ve become years ago. Finally got his brother off Fox.

[@jostrong2385]

I "met" you on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel. So glad. Although you sometimes seem to be on the dark side, I appreciate your, to me, reality based stance on different topics.

[@amyferebee]

Thanks for All your hard work and perserverance

[@Loratorafromkelowna]

I didn’t think you could fill Charlie’s shoes but you are doing a good job Tim.

[@eottoe2001]

Good interview, Tim.

[@ChrisOsle-kw5pl]

I'm a MTN and BTC watcher. Data and facts. Gotta love it.

[@pdcdesign9632]

What do you think about ETH and SOL? Are those good coins also? 😅

[@markg.7865]

I still watch MSNBC.

[@catbb1000]

Hahaha epoc news is like "children of the corn" shit. 😂🤣 Love you Tim ❤

[@marnavanloo7302]

When Biden was elected I was able to take a deep relaxing breath. Then Trump & the clown car entered the circus with Jan 6 insanity. I’m sick & ashamed of their lies.

[@PxThucydides]

The problem I see is politeness. As a culture we are reluctant to call someone a liar to their face, or- in Trump's case- call them an imbecile. The stunned journalists who were there for the bleach remark should have stood up and shouted him down. But Trump knows that's hard to do. Conway is on to something: call out the lies to the liar's face.

[@liamthompson9342]

Tim appearing on BTC is how I found the Bulwark. I thought this guy sounds like he understands politics, and wanted to hear more.

[@billeib427]

Please do not stop doing Trump. The German people did not have an accessible alternative media. Keep doing what you are doing. America has a Fascist to stop.

[@wl4446]

Best definition of wisdom I’ve ever heard was “seeing things from many different angles.“ We need strong, intelligent liberals AND conservatives to debate in good faith and hash things out like reasonable adults. It’s not perfect, but it’s the best system human beings have ever devised.

[@williamjohns5403]

Your doing a great job Tim 💙💙🇺🇦

[@judileeming1589]

As the “Shrinking Trump Podcast” says, media is not listening to these top mental health experts and reporting that Trump is suffering from dementia which is getting worse daily and every day is his best day.

[@williamgatheist1314]

Tim the question, an honest conservative this is an oxymoron? It is literally and figuratively impossible to be a Trump supporter and call yourself honest. In the real world, we call that an impossibility!

[@ServaasFlesch]

Democracy needs protection from lies, otherwise it dies. Quite how to balance it with the right of expression and the right to be wrong, I don't know. Could that be a topic for 1 or more discussions?

[@nancychandler3673]

We are counting on you Conservatives to arise like a Phoenix once Maga is gone. Take back your Party. 🇺🇸 🙏 Vote Biden until then. 🇺🇸

[@soularddave2]

Yes. It'll be ti.e to recalibrate.

[@mcdonaldchuck3230]

TRUMP 2024

[@DanielTroyer-u2h]

What are you smoking? Open borders destroying America, ridiculous green new deals, 70,000 new irs agents, appeasement foreign policies, disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, new taxes galore, and highest inflation in 40 years! What a record! I hope your electric car battery needs charging but you can't find a charger, your family is hungry but $100 won't fill a grocery bag

[@Kerry-uo6og]

The republican platform, as it is, will always lead to fascism. You should work on that bit. A lot.

[@toddsteward1596]

Ha I can say I just recently found the Bulwark in the last few months and I now listen to it daily.

[@dk_puck]

This was so good. Loved the discussion around The Epoch Times and Miles Guo.

[@thunderbiltstormcrow9542]

thanks, Tim, for the seemingly meaningful moment of introspection. ; )

[@ann-mariemeyers9978]

Anyone remember Gary Hart? Someone photographed him on a yacht with a woman in a bikini who wasn't his wife, and it ruined him.

[@GoogleLover-r9e]

As a consumer of many different types of media, what I miss most is original investigative reporting. I am overwhelmed by the opinion media world. I can watch/listen to 6-10 different sources each day and hear the same story repeated 6-10 different ways with varying amounts of the story’s original facts. I’m not sure that there are ANY hardcore reporters anymore that are employed by anyone other than Reuters, the New York Times and Politico.

[@catpaladin1]

And I’ve caught Reuters lying

[@Dan-dg9pi]

Excellent, intelligent discussion.

[@carolemorain126]

I'm laughing at the viewer age stuff. I know that I am an anomaly, but this old woman stopped cable TV, news, anything, after the 2016 election. I'm proud of myself for contributing to their demise. I stream occasionally, just to see what the heads are blathering, but I prefer seeing the clips where the words come straight from the horses' other end.

[@lemonaid3510]

One man bringing America to its knees.No one saw this coming.

[@richardvickrey4786]

Ben Smith just made the smartest statement I've heard in a long time: "We don't have as much power as we think we do." Touche! Don't get me wrong. I HATE that this is the case. I know that statement is correct. But Boy, does it ever chap my a**! Please forgive my vulgarity. This has hit me "like a ton of bricks!" 💙

[@ann-mariemeyers9978]

This is my biggest fear. There are no honest conservatives.

[@travisjohnson622]

never has been. GOPs main shtick is, "Lets impose our whole point of view and way of life on america" They have always been about this since day one. But 20th century GOP ran campaigns in hopes people would vote to be imposed. Modern maga/GOP (and yes, there is no longer a difference) knows that the future will not embrace the party that wishes to cling to the past. Modern GOP realizes they will not win elections unless they cheat and lie. If they want to impose upon a world that doesnt want their vision. It will have to be with the hammer and wrecking ball.

[@brotherlos]

This space is for us center/right people who don't have a home anymore because of the breakdown of factual information in the new age of Republican politics.

[@nancychandler3673]

Many of us were Raised as Republicans however are Red Dog Democrats who are Center Left. We in the Center are connected be it Center Left or Center Right. 🇺🇸

[@kehenry1]

It's like we keep trying to scrape the dog shit off our shoes and it just keeps holding on

[@twhite8308]

An old one. I use a mobile phone for everything. Bulwork, BTC, Meidas Touch, MSNBC, Reuters, PBS. Google News. Read Grace Blakeley & similar.

[@ping1653]

I like it when Ben said there's space for different kinds of things out there

[@SgtTibbsTX]

HOLY SHIT! Tim with the Tom Brokaw name drop! That gave me such lovely nostalgic chills. What I wouldn’t do to feel that way about a newscaster again. One prime time person you can trust whole heartedly. Actually Tim is exactly that just not on a major network- and that’s a good thing. Also… I want to be Tim’s old lady neighbor. I felt almost jealous when he talked about her 😊 Come be my neighbor Tim! Thanks for the great show yall! Nothing I love more than listening to Tim and the Bulwark podcast and cooking for my boys. Have a great night yall!

[@loiscase4497]

I found the comment about paid versus paid content on various if not all podcasts. Everyone of them is asking $5 or more per month. I'm on a fixed income. As much as I would like to be able to pay for premium content, I just can't afford it. Making sure I am getting a variety of viewpoints is something that I strive to do. I just hope I'm getting enough accurate information by watching a variety of sites.

[@donaldhutchinson8079]

Great conversation.

[@lisadeharthansen7076]

Thank you.

[@Dot-u4m]

Midas Touch is great. Writers like Ron are great. They lean in on the legal. Alot of very talented lawyers like Karen Freidman Agnifilo, Ben Miselas and Michael Popok. I like Norm Eisen and Harry Litman too. Have got to have the facts.

[@JR-pr8jb]

Balanced radio newscast ca. 1943: "In other news, Adolf Hitler's spokesperson Joseph Goebbels has denied mass excecutions in special camps. (Turning to a popular radio reporter): And what is the Roosevelt administration's response?"

[@samanthafordyce5795]

We may need a conservative party, but the current GOP cult of personality ain't it. I think Tim and Liz Cheney and George Conway should form an actual new Conservative party. In effect they've done that already; they should make it official. Call them Tories for short.

[@cuttwice3905]

The big problem is that we are not teaching children critical thinking.

[@briancase6180]

Yes, neither the Republicans nor the Democrats have all the right answers. Diversity is the best situation, but compromise is also necessary.

[@chigirl2028]

I watch cable news through KZbin every day and I'm not elderly.

[@sethmann6397]

EpoKKK times used to do ads before podcasts like this. Now Trump does. Sad either way.

[@slkhjf]

Every time I get an ad from them, I report it as hate speech.

[@annetteyoutube742]

23:38 In the beginning, the ads pronounced their name "EE'-pock Times", not ”Eh'-pick Times".

[@joyandrews3804]

A lot of us older folk are more up to date than a lot of younger people! What I’ve noticed is how the news has become more about opinions rather than sticking to the facts. There’s a lot of hyperbole and propaganda. I want the facts so I can make up my own mind and have opinions of my own.

[@urkiddingme6254]

Thanks for the New Yorker link. I read the article and stayed to watch an adorable short video of a father explaining to his young daughter the many and varied uses for the F-word, followed by a fun video of Arab-American cousins meeting up. Expanded my horizon.

[@asynchronicity]

Grifting Obstruction Projection 🤷‍♂️

[@onlykarlhenning]

Great show!

[@rranswerman]

As a not dead yet living embodiment of the cable news medium age of 68 (I'm 67), when my 68-year-old girlfriend watches cable news programs I usually put on headphones and listen to music. I have yet to have a Wizard of Oz/Dark Side of the Moon experience while listening to Music while Nichole Wallace and her panel are on, but I know it will happen one day and, on that day, things will make sense and reality will become real again and my broken reel to reel will play music again.

[@gayleodonnell4860]

How about all those Republican EX-Trump voters I see clips of online? Can their part be made more “mainstream?” Where did those people get their news? Can we put them on ads on Fox?

[@thomasallen6980]

Trump sure is good at reminding us that there is still probably a pee tape out here somewhere.

[@judithbecker564]

Probably the females are “on the young side”, that’s the universally unacceptable part. Ivanka mini me’s if you listen to Stormy.

[@catpaladin1]

I want the Epstein news but DeSantis is sitting on it

[@Mohamad-gv4xe]

thank you

[@martygreenspan-xy2jo]

I would say unlimited options in media is a very good thing. Look at monopolies in agra, energy, tech, etc and the consumer is getting shafted in retail pricing because there's no competition. We dont need that in media, too.

[@lidelloste3317]

A guest both intelligent and entertaining.

[@marjfairfield1293]

Why don't you understand that R's are so invested in keeping the clown and staying in his good side that they will do anything to keep their tax breaks and power.

[@tonyprost5575]

If they don't have Trump, they have nothing.

[@Itried20takennames]

Yup….the Republican Party has basically turned into a “dictatorship” or cult culture…where people don’t get rewarded based on merit, hard work, etc. but only by doing the dictator favors and staying in the dictator’s favor. And sp all the cronies will compete to be ever more outrageously loyal, more flattering, etc.

[@1qtaz]

They have been threatened and extorted.

[@Steven-pu8ws]

We completely understand, we just cannot allow. There are not enough of them to elect the 🍊🤡 if we organize and vote. It’s really that simple. The burden rests on us and nobody will save us from that responsibility. Not the Courts, the congress, or anyone else. It’s on us.

[@DonHajicek]

I wanted to mention to ya'll that I appreciate the needle you are threading with your thumbnails and video titles. They are thoughtful, in their way. 👍

[@MaidNoMore]

How can you be honest when you defend Trump?

[@marianroth-cramer7812]

Tim - you are an excellent interviewer and knowledgeable guest picker HOWEVER this one was difficult as I only do audibly- gotta figure out how to get your guests to stop talking over you Don’t you remember our COVID/ZOOM days !?! Calm down and listen please Thank you Tim!!