Are There ANY Legit 1,000lb Deadlifts?

[@AlexanderBromley]

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[@amanhasnoname01]

The Boostcamp link is missing from your video descriptions.

[@Hermanubis1]

Sumo is not deadlift. For me, using those belts makes it an assisted lift. There are no 1000 deadlifts until it is done with stiff bars and without any assistance like a belt or knee sleeves. Also, low bar squats are not squats.

[@the1611sword]

Can I get the link to the new balance deadlift shoes please siiiir

[@the1611sword]

​@@Hermanubis1Did you know: Thor has three mighty objects that he uses in the fight for order and against chaos and giants: Mjölnir, the hammer that hits whatever he throws it at, Megingjord, the belt of power that doubles his strength, and a pair of iron gloves.According to old norse mythology, Thor needed the belt and the gauntlet ( glove ) to reap the full potential of the Mjölnir.

[@Hermanubis1]

@@the1611sword And that is why Jesus without his belt destroyed paganism.

[@vicenteochoa6498]

Can you break down when I carried 4 chairs each hand across my local church auditorium back in 06

[@AlexanderBromley]

A year old. But upon further review, you are correct. His knack dead at Worlds and his lockout at the Arnold were indeed smooth. I stand corrected, and that technical change is impressive.

[@thomasbrodrecht6137]

4? I used to do 6 each hand when I was 16. But I’m not good on camera bro

[@ok-sj7bx]

I had a tool assisted attempt at this, but I did have 15 or so chairs in each hand.

[@AvidCanineEnjoyer]

@@AlexanderBromleyhuh? Is that English your speaking? 😅

[@Tinystrom]

The other day I brought all the groceries inside in one trip 💪

[@GODOFHELLFIRE3]

I will never know peace until the day when Hafthor bulks-up to become a five-hundred pound ogre with three chins and no neck in a do-or-die quest to break the record once and for all. The muscle mass of a Belgian Blue, the bodyfat of a Discord moderator. Rolling out onto the stage at Giants Live on a Rascal scooter, DRIPPING with thick, engine-oil sweat and wearing a CPAP like the mask of Bane, all of it just to lift 537kg as a final fuck-you to the haters before succumbing to multiple organ failure on the platform. THAT would be content.

[@ballbuster1681]

Peak male fantasy

[@Ben_c-j4u]

Fullthor

[@MeridiasTaco]

WSM is actually a WHO funded ogre development program akin to the Super Mutants in Fallout

[@christopherroberts2500]

@@ballbuster1681 I came just reading it

[@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124]

Wut

[@DusmaEduardo]

Great, i will send you my 1000lb deadlift video as well

[@zombies101lover]

Lets see Paul Allen’s 1000lb deadlift video..

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

@@zombies101lover * swallows nervously *

[@ImVenten]

"enters quinn"

[@gots0359]

@@ImVenten😳😳

[@zigzzagz5732]

Paul Allen did that lift when he was spotted in England though.

[@ChristopherKanski]

The ONLY issue with my 1000lb deadlift is that it was about 500lb too light.

[@AlexanderBromley]

Hit a quick dub, basically the same

[@ChristopherKanski]

@@AlexanderBromley Pretty much.

[@alejandrobrown1499]

😂

[@_THE_NUT_]

I’m 400lbs away at 19. I’m getting 800 by next year. Bw is 210.

[@bznshee]

@@_THE_NUT_good luck

[@pctotty]

Brain Shaw has been hurt more on the Elephant Bar than any other implement. Yes, the flex in the bar allows you to lift the weight more effectively, but stabilizing the whip is a huge strain in other ways.

[@AlexanderBromley]

I don't think any objective data exists that shows athletes are more likely to get hurt on an Elephant bar. Put a max deadlift in the middle of the worlds heaviest strongman contest, where everyone jacks up the gear and bloats an extra 30lbs.... injuries occur.

[@pctotty]

@@AlexanderBromley This is anecdotal, but I think it would be interesting to compare injury rates across deadlift implements.

[@paavoilves5416]

@@pctotty Let's hope some pencilneck scientist makes a study about it. It would definitely be interesting!

[@Adam-if4se]

​@@AlexanderBromleyPeople blame the elephant bar, but I personally think Brian just attempted much more than he could handle. 2018 and 2019 his goal was to beat Thor on the deadlift at the ASC and at that specific time, Thor had just surpassed him at deadlifting. Especially in 2019, Brian really grinded 463kg up and Thor did 474kg like a speed rep. I remember watching the livestream and thinking Brian was crazy at the time when he attempted his last pull of 476kg I think and got injured. It was simply never there.

[@joebot9309]

Brian also attempted to pull more on the elephant bar than any other time as he was trying to compete with Thor and Jerry

[@seventoast]

They said it was impossible, but I have finally achieved the negative moment arm technique. Now I can finally complete the ideal workout Mentzer could only dream of: 0 reps at infinite intensity

[@9999-k9q]

0 reps at infinite intensity sounds like isometrics

[@AeriaOris]

Yes!​@@9999-k9q

[@danilo071983]

Fuck yeah

[@brewhanma6805]

Can't wait to see John hit 1,000 lbs conventional once he actually fills out the 220 class lol

[@AlexanderBromley]

Will see if he will. He's said a few times he doesn't like getting heavy, but he has so much more room to hold weight. He will live longer if he doesnt though...

[@peterpartridge3612]

I don’t think 220 is that extreme. I mean you act like he is a 5’7” bodybuilding hitting 300lb in the off-season. Also his cycles are mild if they are to be believed which I am inclined to believe him.

[@brewhanma6805]

@AlexanderBromley he just said in his most recent video that he wants to hit a 2300 total at 198 at the power surge meet in September, take a crack at the u198 WSM title, then return to powerlifting to fully commit to 220. Bulking is definitely on his mind for next year.

[@Brc-kg1mg]

@@peterpartridge3612 220 at 5 foot 10 is MASSIVE dude. Wtf

[@braylafave5790]

@@AlexanderBromleyhe’s talked about it being his 3rd goal in line

[@9256steven]

The 500kg deadlift by Eddie Hall was the greatest moment in Strongman history.

[@ihaveacutecat]

fax

[@Captain_Grabby]

Lmao

[@mageminx7551]

It really is. This coming from a thor fan Eddie's 500 is the greatest moment in strongman and maybe even lifting history

[@Leon玲央]

​@@mageminx7551 I am not even in to powerlifting, but those moments in wich someone breaks a certain barrier, it always will be great, no matter the competition.

[@leesundquist3059]

That sumo stance is a joke. It is impressive about weights. People are moving nonetheless, but 1000 pound dead lift on a CMOS stance not the same as 1000 pound lift in a shoulder width.

[@michaelsteinberg205]

I love the mess in the background. I see YTers looking so perfect on screen, but I know you just had a baby, and congratulations! But seriously, it’s so comforting and reassuring to see the mess because it’s so relatable. Real life has messes, and I like that you’re real. Maybe that means I can break 1,000 at my first powerlifting meet weighing only 160

[@AlexanderBromley]

Appreciate it! Total mess... toilet pipe broke and flooded my office, so I'm in the storage room.... Kinda like it here, though!

[@curlygrain4389]

@@AlexanderBromleyhope it was the supply pipe and not the output 😂

[@SomeGuyAsWell]

I actually didn't notice. A lot of KZbinrs use a green screen or even have a set for videos.

[@petemccutchen3266]

My mom would come back from the dead and kill me.

[@therambunctiousrobloxian9323]

the thing that makes eddie so impressive is that his previous lift was also the new world record of that day and although that was barely chipping the record, he then added 35 kilograms to it. absolutely unreal in terms of the progress made in a short time

[@steffenbrygg7907]

Im no Eddie super fan, but what he did at the time was totaly insane. Thor is way better deadlifter now, hes even teasing about a bigger upcoming lift.

[@iielysiumx5811]

Yeah agreed, I think Eddie has been insufferable ever since his fight with Thor but that 500kg deadlift was incredible and will likely forever be the greatest single feat of strength performed by a human being

[@japanesecar1501]

IDK, the way Eddie did it, what it was, and meant, and how he has done the WSM 2017 472.5(looked good for 490, second to last event(!) before stones), tells me, that Thor was great, but he was never as strong as Eddie. Sure Thor can do 520, but Eddie could do perhaps 540, eventually. He had about the same strength finishing the WSM a year later guys, while considrebly lighter, it was no "one off".

[@TheKillaov]

​@@japanesecar1501Eddie could do 540 lmao, guy almost died going for 500, his heart nearly exploded twice from the amount of stuff he was running

[@98danielray]

​@@devilselbowhe beast it 4+ years later, my guy. even if people cope about Eddie being a better deadlifter (which he is not), he made a huge jump in the deadlift for the time.

[@Adam-if4se]

​@@japanesecar1501Eddie wasn't considerably lighter in WSM 2017 than when he pulled the 500kg. He was the heaviest he ever was at WSM 17 at 196kg.

[@kris0ham]

spit out my coffee at the kipping deadlift 😂😂😂

[@juanrafaelsolanouscanga9363]

A novice here, finally hit 315 lbs on the squat. ATG and high bar. Thanks for all the info you helped me achieve this milestone in lifting. 💪

[@johnjohnson-ss4vu]

Way to go! Dont get fat.

[@xxx0ox0]

Keep it up homie 405 is not even far from there that's when things started slowing down for me so hopefully you blow past that

[@fortnitetrashcan8308]

@@johnjohnson-ss4vu hey im not fat im a powerlifter!

[@ninocraft1]

​@@johnjohnson-ss4vuits called a power belly

[@calebstacy8512]

I’ve never noticed Thor’s calves on that pull! They are dang near as big as his quads!

[@freakied0550]

Only other person I've seen mentioning how suspect that fed that Benni pulled the 1015 in was suspect to say the least.

[@AlexanderBromley]

Weird it never got questioned. Goes to show that it pays to not be a polarizing figure lol

[@pbkimblee1858]

A couple of years ago I saw some people talking about that competition and how athletes were hitting their PR left and right and that the weights weren't that reliable.

[@ScottPhx]

Do you think Benni could pull a legit 1015 like that with no wraps? Or do you think it's beyond what he could do with pre weighed Rogue plates?

[@CanIbeFrank]

I did RDLs today for the first time in 15 years. Did 455 for 2 reps. 5 plates next week. Saw your videos on RDLs. Appreciate the info

[@onerider808]

This is not only comedy gold, but a great deadlift do/don’t lesson, and an evaluation/update of the latest strong guys. Thanks.

[@BeardOfPower7]

Eddie Hall progressed the record 35kg in one lift. That is an achievement in it's own right. To break such a barrier with a heavy jump is unprecedented.

[@xxx0ox0]

Yeah he said he destroyed his body to do it and you can see it on that day it looked like he was going to explode. As massively impressive as it is if he didn't go that hard he could of kept going but I don't think that's what he wanted at the time

[@BeardOfPower7]

@@xxx0ox0 It was all or nothing for Eddie at that time. Before that lift I think the best he hit in training was a max effort 470kg. If he continued in strongman he'd most likely peak around that mark at any given standard deadlift contest. 500kg was a once in a lifetime achievement for him. Considering what he had to go through to get it locked out.

[@xxx0ox0]

@@BeardOfPower7 I think you're cutting him short I don't think he was peaked out before that crazy plan of his he was only in his late 20s at the time

[@BeardOfPower7]

@@xxx0ox0 Yeah I was tbh. You're right if he played the long game he'd have more static strength later in life. Would've been interesting to see him cut some mass and focus on building strength at a lower bodyweight over a long period then try to break the record again. We'll never know if his body could handle it.

[@jeremyc7825]

Speedholes in Hooper's socks - Gotta be my favorite line!

[@budthecyborg4575]

21:26 Just want to point out Eddie's grip on the bar is solid as the bar leaves the floor. The Figure 8 helps massively in just eliminating the possibility of accidentally dropping the bar, but the hardest part of the lift was all done the same whether it was straps or figure 8s.

[@satagaming9144]

Sarcasm on this one is reaching new levels, Alex deadlifted all of our sides into the stratosphere with this one

[@ezradanger]

"because going lower than that is gay" had me laughing like a maniac and people looking at me strange.

[@Bigramt]

Andy bolton? His 1003 had weakerlockout but 1008 was solid

[@JoshuaOdionson]

Yeah, I was wondering the same. He was the first to lift 1,000 in a "standard" deadlift, before it happened in strongman. And I think he's said the plates were weighed out as well as calibrated. A lot of powerlifting fans want to shit on it because it was in gear, but if Strongman allows for suits too. If anything, the equipment we have now and strongman can use now do more than what Andy had.

[@kevinmckeon2543]

Yup. And he did them in full meets. Still the best two deadlifts imo.

[@andyboltonstrength]

Very true mate

[@Bigramt]

@@andyboltonstrength wasn't a dig, I count both lifts and as far as I'm concerned you lifted 1000 twice, but 1008 is the greatest lift in history on calibrated plates without straps.

[@Bigramt]

@@kevinmckeon2543 agreed

[@drakeellingboe]

Loved this video man these are my favorite kinds. The 501 rant was just great too

[@Josh-gb5iw]

The discipline, work ethic, dedication, etc. of all these guys deadlifting 450kg+ is literally unfathomable to everyone that's commented here including alexander. Not sure what it is about you Alex that just doesn't make me want to subscribe, you're definitely knowledgeable and informative, I'll keep checking in you may win me over.

[@dbwrc]

death to whippy bars! Stiff bar, stiff bar, stiff bar, all the way

[@michaellopez2070]

Sumo has improved more than conventional on the bendy bars because it bends more with them because of a more narrow grip too. In a bender bar, the closer you grip you more you get from the bend.

[@rogerbartley2225]

Benny, the only man to pull 1'000lb with no straps, raw grip, I believe, incredible.

[@basheeres7395]

Andy Bolton was the 1st 1000 lbs without straps

[@rogerbartley2225]

@@basheeres7395 I stand corrected

[@MrJerkelm]

My 600 was where i stopped. I hurt myself too many times trying to accomplish it naturally and felt good that I did it but i never want to push past it for my own safety

[@espenstoro]

"bUt HiS dAd WeIgHeD tHe PlAtEs". And Guinness certified it. I love how this is a huge conspiracy. 🤣

[@dontboyr]

I mean guinness is a pretty shitty thing and when u dont weigh the plates to the grams u could easily add 1 pound

[@Adam-if4se]

​@@dontboyrThe weights were calibrated and they were weighed precisely mate. You can see that on the livestream. You could say the exact same thing about the Giants live setup Eddie did.

[@nicholasskridla2475]

People just dont like that Thor beat Eddie.

[@J.c410]

​@@dontboyrWhen were Eddie,s plates weighted live ? Oh right

[@isk8atparks]

@@Adam-if4se i agree that the plates are legit, I dont have any doubt about it. Its just funny saying guinness certified it as if it means anything. Guinness has a terrible track of trust

[@j3rs3yjak3FIU]

Markarov is a fucking UNIT. That's what I want my back to look like now.

[@JacobNewton-fv6cs]

Hey there Bromley! I've been following you for a bit. Thanks so much for the not only consistent, but quality content. Truly. I have a quick question. Everywhere I look for Doug Youngs training style, I find the same upper body dominant split. Bench 3 times a week. Squat every 10th day. Deadlift every 15th day. However I noticed you said you took inspiration for Bullmastiff from Doug Youngs progressions scheme. Do you have a source that goes more in depth on his style of training? Thank you in advance. If you don't have time to respond. I understand!

[@sunbeamcostrength]

Ok so maybe Benni didn't get exactly 1015. If the plates aren't calibrated, maybe it was 1025....

[@williesnyder2899]

I agree regarding the hyper/flexible DL bar and the bench shirt. The accommodations made for numbers shortchange the clarity which I’m certain that competitors and fans both seek.

[@PitfallHarry72]

Those bendy bars are like bench shirts, though not quite as extreme. Brian Shaw is such a beast. And being that he's so tall, it's even a more amazing feat. Not only does he have to lift the weight higher, he has less leverage to do it than someone shorter.

[@LatimusChadimus]

The fit&pattern can add or remove height, same with width and depth

[@matthewpalmer-jones9186]

Can you please do a video about kettlebells?

[@Good.shepherd420]

Cause thats how you carried your books to school hahahahaha

[@steelwarrior105]

Brb, gonna speed-hole my sock drawer.

[@SJR4815]

Peak trolling. Maybe one of my favorite videos, Brom. It’s a perfect mix of truth and sheer fucking stone faced horseshit. Please do this kind of thing more.

[@Antony.Martinez]

Yeah this guys is a complete joke haha

[@WoodsGhost]

That's the absolute best argument about Thors deadlift I've heard.

[@FCMorba]

Your comment about how the best/strongest do what’s best for them based on the conditions of the competition is what matters more than anything imo. Should all beginners/intermediates lift like some of these? Absolutely not, but that doesn’t mean it’s not where they might end up (depending on gym lift/strongman/powerlifting rules of course). Great vid :)

[@kelticslob]

So for all we know Benny was lifting MORE than 1015

[@AlexanderBromley]

Lol, that's the twist! That actually is a possibility.... abeit an incredibly small one. I had a training partner compete in a Hardcore meet and said guys were smoking PRs all the way. Anecdote and speculation, yes, but those two things pay my mortgage....

[@kevinmckeon2543]

For all we know it was 2000. But looking at the limited training vids in the lead up, and his comps before and since, I'd take a bet that it was upper 9's. Don't mean to discredit him, he's a legend, but that event looked like a cowboy circus.

[@broncokonco]

The potential energy stored in bending the bar equals the potential energy that would be required to lift the weights. (Assuming the weights are not still resting on the ground)

[@justgivemeanumber8215]

but at the bottom, bending the bar is easier than lifting weights. then as weights actually have to move, the lifter is in a stronger position. and overall the weights are lifted less far up

[@michaelfrench9062]

@Alexander Bromley, how old was the Hooper lift? Hasn't he fixed his lockout?

[@thedolenorway]

Not sure, pretty sure he got his socks stitched up though!

[@franklingauthier-parker7253]

The humor is so good, had me chuckling the whole time

[@syndicate7934]

On the last day of my gym membership i had, i came in when no one was there (24hr gym) and loaded 900 pounds onto the linear leg press machine for a 1 rep max. That shit killed my legs for over a week. When get back to the gym, i want to start focusing on squat and deadlift. My goal for leg press is to be able to hold up 1 ton cuz i own genuine harbour freight jackstands (not that bad, but i dont wanna fuck around)

[@magnuslund2545]

Bro, that description of Evan Singleton is gold. I was laughing so hard. 😂

[@BulkBrogan.]

I don't mind sumo nobody ever complained about Ed Coans deadlift The noodle bar+sumo is 100% the problem

[@benjamin3615]

It isn't really; mostly because the noodle bar is used in small time Federations that nobody really knows or cares about. All the serious federations like Powerlifting America, IPF, USAPL use a regular stiff bar.

[@KillianDefaoite]

The thing that makes me really respect Makarov is that he's not just a deadlift specialist, he's incredibly strong all around too. He has achieved a 205kg strict press and a 260kg bench

[@bradprovik453]

Love it😂 This is pretty much an exact conversation I had at the gym 3 days ago lol. Except I had zero pithy analogies. 😞 lol Optimus Prime. Well done AB

[@AlexanderBromley]

I had to look up pithy lol. Appreciate it!

[@shimrrashai-rc8fq]

The bars aren't made to hold that much weight. What is needed is a special "ultra heavy" bar that is like twice as thick as a normal bar (and thus has like 4x the weight, so 180 lbs instead of the usual 45.), and of course suitably adapted plates (larger center hole) to boot, so really an ultra-heavy weight set. This bar won't bend (at least anywhere near as much) and thus you can see just how much of the appropriate distance can be covered at what types of extreme weights.

[@TheMulalley]

Absolutely none of that is required. Normal power bars and squat bars have very little flex.

[@habbo159]

they literally are made to hold that much weight

[@Bknorrski]

Calibrated plates or not that Benni magnusson lift is my favorite of the video no straps and just hoss’s that bitch up and sits it down gently. Great video!

[@tribeof2035]

I remember why I stopped watching your videos. Thanks for doing this video.

[@stuartbramwell7731]

Genuinely really like your channel but I find it pretty baffling why you don’t include Andy Bolton given he was literally the first person to deadlift 1,000. He did this twice (albeit in a DL suit) with a conventional stance and mixed grip, making his deadlifts still some of the most impressive feats ever. I know you say that people don’t care too much about grip on deadlift but it would surely be ignorant to say a 1,000 conventional deadlift without straps and hitching is not objectively more impressive than with. Also you seem to suggest that all 1,000 conventional deadlifts have only been done by strongmen, but AB (a powerlifter) set the standard and was looked up to by Hall and other later 1,000+ pullers. No disrespect intended, but I think AB deserves a shout out here.

[@19KingLloyd]

there was also another angle from eddies 500 where his knee lockout looked questionable

[@murditoku]

I started deadlifting in a similar fashion to what Eddie Hall did during that record, and I have to say that as a guy with a big belly, I find it more comfortable to start the heavy phase of the lift. I always struggled to get proper positioning before, and after this, its quite interesting how much more comfortable I feel it is. Great video!

[@solstice4485]

Honestly, I think the real issue behind Haftor's deadlift is not the setup, it's Haftor's personnality. You have cool dudes like Eddie or Brian, always having fun, respectful, and then you have Haftor, taking himself too seriously, whining against judges, making want to go full war against Eddie, making this event just to piss him off.

[@drewsaddler8414]

You should have talked about Thor 2.0 who pulled 1000 pounds at the Arnold like it was 800

[@ShovelChef]

I knew I would find this unreasonably fascinating. I didn't know it'd be hilarious.

[@magadorm4218]

Peak powerlifting commentary at 5:52.

[@r0bz0rly]

"the mythical kipping deadlift" i fucking love you alex lol also exceptionally based opinion on both eddie and thor; they are both incredible achievements in their own right.

[@olivergrljevic2128]

At this point, changing the thumbnails is tradition😂

[@schmellywittleidiot]

All valid points BUT just as an uncalibrated plate can be 1-2% off that means it can be heavier as well, that 1015 could be 990-1030.

[@J.c410]

Weight being expensove, it's far less likely for a non calibrated plate to be iver the advertised weight rather than under it. It's a business like anything else, tgo still possible obviously.

[@AlexanderBromley]

I think it's unlikely (though I did have cheap hundos that were 103 a piece). My guess that it was light has to do a lot with the circumstances around the competition and the drama/speculation. I had a friend lift in one of those shows and the consensus was that PRs were falling like crazy.

[@ritparent7239]

At 4:52 did he really only lift the outside plates 4" off the floor ???

[@blue_samurai_zero]

Seeing you right next to Laura, I gotta ask. How tall ARE you? 6? 6'2"? 5'10"?

[@sparkyman42ws]

bromley is so witty, i always laugh at these kind of videos

[@unscarred53]

Don’t ever change, Brom.

[@ronanbrookes7125]

I am a Benni 1015lbs believer and remain committed to this belief

[@masaeffy]

They measure "wilks" and relative strength but they, for some reason, don't measure total work output (Force x distance). To explain this, Hafthor when he lifted 501 kg with his frame, executed a much more impressive rom than Jamal (not trying to throw shade at him though). So greater distance the weight travels, greater total work output, greater relative strength. But if you ask a "powerlifter", Jamal is relatively stronger based on some simplistic bodyweight/weight ratio. Powerlifting is ruled by small frames and you can tell by just applying simple logic. Like why is a 400 lbs squat performed by some short femur guy more impressive than that very same weight moving 1.5x the rom performed by a 7 ft nba player with long femurs ? I just can't get it. At the end of the day, when we transfer strength to real world tasks, hafthor is the guy that will pick up a heavy bag and get it up to a 4 ft table, and the nba player I mentioned is the one who will jump like an ostrich and dunk. I don't know if I explained myself correctly, but to sum it up, powerlifting "relative strength" ratios and standards are utter BULLSHIT.

[@benjamin3615]

This is a really black and white point of view and I honestly feel like there's a general lack of understanding of powerlifting, it's structure and how its scored. Yes, getting down to the brass tacks of it all, it does take more force to displace a certain weight over a longer distance (despite the fact that it's only maybe a handful of inches more), which does equal more work. But there's honestly a few issues with this point and your other ones: TL;DR: Humans have many factors that contribute to being able to lift a certain weight, using a physic equation and ROM to determine the winner doesn't seem like the best idea due to tediousness and money for specialized tools that many meet hosts don't have. Powerlifting has weight classes, and there's no certain size of frame that's ruling the sport because they all compete against similarly sized people based on gender and age. A large, heavy squat done by a smaller lifter is impressive because muscle strength positively correlates with size, and smaller lifters have less of a frame to build muscle on, thus the ability to generate the amount of force required to displace a heavy squat is more impressive than a larger guy with a greater ROM. Due to the increase in size, theoretically should be able to carry larger, longer muscles and thus produce more force. Powerlifting is not a test of "real world strength" but rather a test of strength with 3 barbell lifts. People will also be good at what they train for, so naturally Hafthor will excel at picking up heavy, awkward items and putting them on elevated platforms, and the NBA player will be good at jumping. Explanations: 1) Humans aren't machines. They don't just immediately assume the most optimal and perfect technique and immediately output the force required to displace 500lbs from the floor to standing, leaving the only room to judge the lift and chose who won on some sort of physics equation. Humans come in all shapes and sizes, and thanks to that, they're going to be better in certain positions than others. And this is not even considering the athlete's experience in one style over the other, how on point their diet is, any injuries, mental state, etc. 2) Powerlifting has weight classes. There will never be any sort of scenario where you have a dude the size of Hafthor being compared to Jamal Browner, someone who has consistently weighed in at nearly half of Hafthor's weight. Powerlifting is not "ruled by short frames" because those short frames will never compete in a sanctioned meet against anyone who isn't their size. Thus, your entire argument kind of falls apart because even if you had a flight of 72kg lifters who all pulled sumo deadlift, their only competition becomes other sumo deadlifters, thus preserving the entire point of "who can lift the most." So why even compare them? 3) I'm also really not sure why ROM is even an argument presented. It's mostly a training and a physical therapy concept, and not entirely important in a contest where they are measuring the most weight lifted past the landmarks given for a good lift. In the squat for example, most deep squatters are going to use the stretch reflex at the bottom of the squat to bounce out of the hole and then they will engage a good distance above ATG to complete the squat. They will not pause at the bottom to circumvent the muscles natural intention to act as rubber bands, thus making the deep squat argument pointless. Range of motion and distance traveled to complete a lift aren't the same, and a lot of people don't understand this. ROM refers to the angle each joint can travel through passively or actively. Bringing me to my next point, people apply this concept to the deadlift and state that because the bar moved a shorter distance, there was less ROM in the sumo deadlift. This is false. Look at videos of both with the idea of ROM being applied at the joint itself, and you'll see that both sumo and conventional have the same amount if not more ROM in sumo's favor. This is why sumo is harder to break off the floor, because of the greater ROM and the lengthened muscles at the start, and why conventional is harder past the knees. 4) Powerlifting is scored by a bodyweight to weight lifted ratio, but within set parameters aka weight classes. Not sure how this is so difficult to understand, but having ROM or a work equation being the determining factor in who wins seems completely asinine to set as a standard. Powerlifting meets already take all day, and are a niche sport. This means that most meets are not the kind you see on KZbin, they're hosted by small town gyms who may be small businesses. You're proposing that these small town businesses who usually host meets as a way to bring in business, spend all this extra time and money on specialized tools and tediously measure the athlete's force output, the distance they move the weight, and the range of motion their joints went through as a standard to who wins their weight class. That seems incredibly tedious and ridiculous to do, and you'd still end up with the same scenario with people trying to cheese the system by increasing various aspects of the new scoring system. Wilks is really only used to determine best lifter overall. 5) Powerlifting is not a measurement of "real world strength." Not sure why you're trying to make this point, but I've never found a real world scenario where I found an object I needed to pick up that was perfectly designed with a long handle in the middle and perfectly balanced weights on either side of it. Powerlifting is a measure of barbell strength in 3 big lifts, the squat, bench and deadlift. Despite this, strength gained from barbell work doesn't just disappear once said theoretically lifter tries to apply it towards an object found in daily life. As a former powerlifter, my training actually transferred to real life a lot more than you think it does. 6) A lot of your examples frankly don't convey what you think they do. An NBA player doesn't really have any business squatting a 1RM because it has no carryover or point to their career as a basketball athlete, and a quick KZbin search doesn't reveal many who even try that. They're doing sport specific exercises to better their jumping, running and endurance, and I genuinely don't see any reason to train static strength like this. You also asked why a short framed guy squatting 400lbs is more impressive. To that I'd say that someone who qualified as "short framed" squatting 400lbs is most likely above the top 5% of lifters in their weight class. For example, each squatting 400lbs. A 59kg lifter would be top 0.5%, a 66kg lifter would be top 2% and a 74kg lifter would be top 8%. Also, Hafthor would be better at picking up heavy bags and placing them on another surface because that's the entire sport of Strongman. Essentially, you're saying that people will be good at doing things they trained for, which is obvious.

[@noaverageuser]

If the bar has rings on it to limit your hand placing, why don't we have lines on the floor to limit foot placing????

[@PATRICKMARCUCCI]

This was a great video! Maybe they can just put sumo deadlift as its own portion of powerlifting or something. Its very clearly not comparable to conventional. But then again some people have crazy long arms for conventional deadlift. And there's people with shorter arms benching bigger weight. IDK. Also I've recently seen some people in strongman contests just letting the weight totally hang from the figure eight straps and not even trying to make it look like they are holding it. Thanks for the content. I'll have to watch this video again before my deadlifts next week. Thor's new deadlift stance definitely looks more optimized.

[@JustSomeGuy496]

Fun video! I like when people have fun with lifting instead of getting super serious. Also, wild how many GOAT-tier strongmen had what might be called "subpar technique". Should our takeaway be that optimal technique doesn't matter as much? Or that these guys are so gifted and hardworking that even lifting suboptimally they're still so crazy strong? Or both?

[@DERHOF2007]

Don't know who you are Dude, but this video was informative, entertaining and fucking funny. Liked and subscribed!

[@berman5963]

"i dont think benny did 1015 that day" it's still real to me dammit!!!

[@Bulgarian_Jedi]

You understand that the bar bends, right? And what does it matter how close they are to the ground, since even if they are separated a millimeter, they are no longer on the ground!

[@Smrda1312]

Not all bars bend the same. That is the point.

[@Bulgarian_Jedi]

@@Smrda1312 It doesn't matter, because I'm wrong. The movement should be standardized and uniform for everyone. Legs not wider than shoulder-width apart.

[@realpatriot5896]

I was always surprised that they do not use the reverse grip. When I was competing I used the Sumo stance with the left hand under and right hand over. No one used straps back then though and we could not drop the bar.

[@1XYT107]

It's a major risk for bicep tears that's why.

[@Bz626]

I definitely think that sumo got a bad rap because of the flexible bars. Sumo definitely benefits waaaaay more from bendy bars. It’s way more impressive on stiff bar when it can be more difficult than conventional for some individuals considering it’s tougher to break off the floor and requires more mobility at the hips.

[@lylemcdermott2566]

No it gets bad rep because it's the same as the guys arching their back on benchpress, dude just go to some decline bench already if you're gonna play like that.

[@jayhays8267]

@4:30 - I don't know much about deadlifting, but with his legs so far apart and the bar bending as much as it is, the plates barely get off the ground!

[@a0zuniverse]

Great showing from Sir Edward Theodore Cornelius Hall, Esq.

[@EpicMotorcycleAdventures]

“Spastic, ADHD, Mountain Dew fuelled lockout” 😂😂😂

[@Bunia257]

Krzysztof Wierzbicki Deadlifted (sumo) 502,5kg. no idea why hes not mentioned here.

[@AlexanderBromley]

Because strapped sumo doesn't count for anything anywhere. Might as well be a smith machine squat

[@Imudaine]

What do you think about world strongest man 2017 deadlifting? To me it seems like one of the most impressive ones considering three people deadlifted over 1000 lbs without suits and with a stiff bar, but im not an expert.

[@AlexanderBromley]

I had meant to cover it and I was going to point that out. But they used bumpers or some shit and WSM is a tv production first. I dont think they actively lie but I sure don't believe they care about quality control in verifying weights. Assuming the weights are even in the ballpark and not 5% off, its the most impressive conditions that weight has been moved in. Really highlights the different level they are on.

[@closetocanada5604]

Speed hole socks had me dying. 😂😂

[@youtubeuser4221]

19:30 Guy has the Hanma Demon Back going on. Insane.

[@joebot9309]

Eddie never locked out. Knees bent, hips not close to locked out.

[@deltalima6703]

Finally got this video to download so I could slap a thumbs up on it. This guy knows his stuff. Does he care what I think? No, he is a popular youtuber already, famous even. Still, damn good job on this video, imho. 💪😘👍

[@stoempert]

Yeah, Sumo on a noodle bar is basically cheating.

[@logangodofcandy]

I train children to deadlift 1000# on a rope. Lol

[@standepain]

Not that I was pulling otherworldly numbers like these guys but I was doing in the high 600s at 210-215 pounds with just a belt but the second I tried to use straps my deadlift dropped off a cliff. Never managed to get 500 off the floor with straps. I just never felt comfortable being bent over strapping in and just the bar never felt right. I just couldn't breath right being bent over for that long. Not sure if that's case for Benni but since we're both Icelanders who know. lol

[@eingyi2500]

I'm 155lbs pulling 355 mixed grip and just can't hold any more weight due to my toothpick arms. I've tried straps and they help me get

[@stackered]

This is great but what does RP and Nippard think? Since they're the true scientists I'm sure they could get these guys up to 1500 lbs with proper technique and squeeze, and more cables.

[@samalama918]

"I probably should say that... [crickets]" 🤣 Cracking me up, Bromley.

[@jameshill9615]

I think one of the more impressive lifts is Eddie’s lift of 462 kg at the Arnold. Sure he had straps but he had no suit on so imo it’s really impressive.

[@J.c410]

He gave his life for it, he was h8ttching it for hours. Haftor's elephant bars lift, or even Brian 467kg on it are much better looking

[@GWRus77]

IDGAD if anyone agrees or not, but Sumo should be considered a different lift and records separated from regular deadlift, along with different rules established by all the lifting federations. One of those sumos in this video the guy barely moved the bar 6". Yes strong as hell, but you truly can't compare 6" movement to the 18", sumo vs traditional. It's almost as egregious as the super high arching for bench press resulting in like 2" lifts

[@kevinballou7822]

Do you mean 1000lb deadlifters as of recent using “calibrated plates”? Or do you mean from previous years? The reason why I am asking is that those like Eddie Hall and more are still around.

[@ix_9_ix]

Also bennies deadlift was done on a deadlift bar as well. Sadly deadlift bars are super common in raw PL sadly

[@grindcorey]

"This looks like Optimus Prime's mouth" LMFAO ⚰️⚰️⚰️

[@davidcohen7881]

I don't mind Sumo, although I personally do Conventional Deadlifts. I don't agree with Deadlift suits, straps and whippy bars. What's next, hydraulic lifts to assist. Lift the weights or not.

[@mattystewart8]

No mention of Thor gaming his lift with figure 8’s? 👀😂 to be fair, i use figure 8’s but i seem to use them different to these guys. I push them out wide and still have a full grip, didnt know you could use them this way, might try it and just up my deadlift by 30kg since i dont have to pull that extra 2 inch 💪🏻😂

[@AlexanderBromley]

I dont think it was that egregious and Eddie used them in his records too. No one is as bad as Novikov with the WOW straps lol.

[@sasinduchamathka4813]

I was watching your videos about Bench press, OHP,shoulders

[@joshh9542]

Sick

[@sasinduchamathka4813]

@@joshh9542 no why

[@jugi1231]

No u were not. Stop lying. Jesus can see you.

[@sasinduchamathka4813]

@@jugi1231 how you know😂😂