Are there different versions of the Qur'an? | James White REFUTED

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@unbiased786
@unbiased786 8 жыл бұрын
Huge technical topic. Unnecessary information generally speaking, but very necessary in our time because some non-muslims have attempted to imply corruption of the Glorious Qur'an.
@FluteHaoran1997
@FluteHaoran1997 9 жыл бұрын
It does give me so much headache. But I love this, Jazaakallah
@syedahmedshaheer117
@syedahmedshaheer117 11 жыл бұрын
Bro Muslim by choice i dont know whether you are aware of it but Dr Jamaal badawi gave an exceptional and more detailed explanation of the 7 ahrufs ... the vid titile is : preservation of the Quran. If its possible u should use exerpts from that and make a ver 2 of this topic since its vitally important as the pagan christiains try to attack using the 7 version tactics. Good job with the vid May Allah increase your taqwa Ameen
@SaimaNawazKhan
@SaimaNawazKhan 11 жыл бұрын
Jazakallah kahir no doubt that Quran still is here in like it revel 1400 year ago
@SheikhAlladeen
@SheikhAlladeen 2 жыл бұрын
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. Hafs Quran in 2:10 it says that Muslims get condemned to hell for lying and in the Warsh Quran the same passage says they get condemned to hell for being LIED TO He "said" (qaala), "My lord knows ..." (21:4) Hafs verses Warsh "Say" (qul): My lord knows ... Hafs version qaala is the perfect tense and therefore Muhammad is the subject of the verb, but in the Warsh version qul is the imperative and therefore the subject is God who is commanding Muhammad/Muslims. This difference is repeated in 21:112. Example of new ruling of Fiqh due to change in grammatical position of a word: Top one is Qiraat Hafs and the bottom is Qiraat Duri. In Hafs Recitation, Arjulakum (being mansub) is linked to washing, while in Duri recitation, Arjulikum (being Majrur) is linked to wiping. Thus, we get two fiqh rulings from the two recitations i.e.: 1. Feet are to be washed in wudu. 2. Feet are to be wiped.
@muhammadibnwaraqa
@muhammadibnwaraqa Жыл бұрын
If you use the same riwayah every arabic Quran will be the same. Problem ! There are many different arabic riwayat with different words. 1 expl Quran riwayah of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh riwayah 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. Quran was corrupted and there is no arabic master copy to compare with.
@rickyusuf8696
@rickyusuf8696 7 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent topic which I myself have started researching, specially the books of al-Jazari (Ra) and Abu Amr al-Dani (Ra). One thing that must be clear (and if I'm not mistaken dr. Shabir made a mistake on this), is that the 7 or 10 qira'at are not to be confused with the 7 ahruf mentioned in the Hadith. The Quran is not revealed in more than 7 ahruf, but there's difference as to how each different ahruf would be like, and, there's agreement that the variations in reading (qira'a) are coming from the different ahruf. As for the many different qira'at, there are more than 7 or 10, but we must notice that (if I'm not mistaken), al-Jazari was the one who claimed that there are 7 different qira'at. And the reason why he chose this number, according to his methodology in his book, is to agree with the number 7 of the different ahruf (here's why people confuse the qira'at with the ahruf). Some other scholars have claimed some different numbers but his position became more accepted and widespread. There are 7 qira'at, but it can be counted as 10 as other three are added. For those who want to check these differences in meaning, refer to tafsir of ibn Katheer (ra), as he explains these differences and gives the tafsir of each different forms. There's also an audio collection of classes online done on tafsir al-Qurtubi, by sheikh Abdullah ibn Muhammad al-Ameen al-Shinqiti (ha) teaching in the masjid of the Prophet (saas), in which he mentions these differences as well (unfortunately the lectures are in Arabic). Lastly, this is also a good lecture for those brothers who have rejected or are (baselessly) criticizing Hadith, because this shows that the Quran was passed down by the very same chains of narrators that narrate Hadith, and that both are preserved in the exact same way, being that what is understood as mutawatir in the qira'at tô be accepted as Quran are not the same mutawatir of the Hadith.
@arminelias3819
@arminelias3819 6 жыл бұрын
As I understood the lecture he made a differentiation between ahruf and qira'at. In one sentence he said that the qira'at are without grammatical irregularities as know from the arabic tribes. In minute 27.15 .
@Adnan00232
@Adnan00232 11 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry happy so to this video, Now I can , Alhamdulillah, explain my SHIA brother younger cousin about the fallacies of Shiaism. Please Pray for me and Him, Hope ALLAH Guide all of us to right path. and to HEAVEN.
@MrSEEMAAN75
@MrSEEMAAN75 4 жыл бұрын
Aameen sum Aameen
@desienamreeka2804
@desienamreeka2804 11 жыл бұрын
Allah says '' we have revealed this book ( The Qur'an ), & we will surely guard it from corruption '', Allahu Akber !
@SheikhAlladeen
@SheikhAlladeen 2 жыл бұрын
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. Hafs Quran in 2:10 it says that Muslims get condemned to hell for lying and in the Warsh Quran the same passage says they get condemned to hell for being LIED TO He "said" (qaala), "My lord knows ..." (21:4) Hafs verses Warsh "Say" (qul): My lord knows ... Hafs version qaala is the perfect tense and therefore Muhammad is the subject of the verb, but in the Warsh version qul is the imperative and therefore the subject is God who is commanding Muhammad/Muslims. This difference is repeated in 21:112. Example of new ruling of Fiqh due to change in grammatical position of a word: Top one is Qiraat Hafs and the bottom is Qiraat Duri. In Hafs Recitation, Arjulakum (being mansub) is linked to washing, while in Duri recitation, Arjulikum (being Majrur) is linked to wiping. Thus, we get two fiqh rulings from the two recitations i.e.: 1. Feet are to be washed in wudu. 2. Feet are to be wiped.
@Muhammad-qf2nf
@Muhammad-qf2nf Жыл бұрын
@@SheikhAlladeen This is an issue due to translating it into English in Arabic it means the same thing.
@muhammadibnwaraqa
@muhammadibnwaraqa Жыл бұрын
@@Muhammad-qf2nf Akhi you know you are lying. Do you have no shame for being exposed a a liar ? 1 is not the same as 3 or more Quran riwayah of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh version 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. Muslims behave like clown just to defend the errors of Islam
@muhammadibnwaraqa
@muhammadibnwaraqa Жыл бұрын
@@Muhammad-qf2nf One more different command by Allah in different riwayat. Islam is being exposed it was corrupted by many. Top one is Qiraat Hafs and the bottom is Qiraat al Duri. In Hafs Recitation, Arjulakum (being mansub) is linked to washing, while in Duri Quran recitation, Arjulikum (being Majrur) is linked to wiping. Thus, we get two fiqh rulings from the two recitations i.e.: 1. Feet are to be washed in wudu. 2. Feet are to be wiped.
@muhammadibnwaraqa
@muhammadibnwaraqa Жыл бұрын
@@Muhammad-qf2nf Kadhaab : All different arabic Quran riwayat by different Qari. All have the same words. This is the most silly thing ever. Like having 32 versions of Harry Potter by different people but all with the same words. Foolish Bedouins from the desert 1, Qaloon Qur'an 2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an 3,Khaled QUR'AN 4,Idrees QUR'AN 5,warsh Qur'an 6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN 7,Al- Laith QUR'AN 8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an 9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN 10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN 11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN 12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an 13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN 14,Hisham QUR'AN 15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN 16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN 17,Sulayman QUR'AN 18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN 19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN 20,Qunbul Qur'an 21,Showba QUR'AN 22, Ruwais QUR'AN 23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN 24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN 25,Hafs QUR'AN 26, Ruh QUR'AN 27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN 28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN 29,khalf QUR'AN 30,Ishaq QUR'AN 31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN 32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
@saidghendir1038
@saidghendir1038 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video We should know the difference between the american and british spelling, is there any meaning error when you read any known text context using one of them, of course not because doesn't matter the style of writing while the meaning is confirmed and every one write the word as he sounds it out. I mean I could write the Quran even using english letters while keeping the same recitation and spelling. What is important is the listener who should listen the same recitation as like arabic recitation, thus same meaning. I tell you more than that, the two men who would read text context using the american and british spelling, they will reach you the message by the the same way if a third illiterate man who memorieses the same text by heart. Regarding the Quran, it is the same thing, me personnaly, I memorise the whole Quran by heart form my cheikh who memorized it from reliable connected chain of cheikhs "machayekh" over the centeries connected to Abdullah ibn Masood from the Prophet peace be upon him from gebrayel from the God Allah. This matter is not available for the other books because the people have lost the original talk from the God, where these books were revealed to specified people in a specified region not all mankind. Hence, Allah sent many books to people successively to remember them that there is no God but Allah, until coming the prophet Muhammed peace be upon him with the last revelation "The Quran" to all mankind any where in the earth, and Allah by his holy will and his own wisdom wanted to this Quran to be the final guidance and warning to mankind. Allah says in the Quran: "Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger." surah Al Isra 15 (QS 17: 15) In other verse He says: "[O Prophet!] We have sent down to you the Book for mankind with the truth. Then whoever adopts the right way, will do so for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, injures his own soul. You are not their custodian." surah Az Zumar 41 (QS 39: 41) May Allah guide you to the straight way if you open your heart without arrogance or racine pride or religion background or how the others would see you. Allah says in the Quran: " So whoever Allah wants to guide - He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide - He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe". surah Al An’am 125 (QS 6: 125) english translation. Thanks
@kasukadai
@kasukadai 11 жыл бұрын
Mashallah...and jazakallah for this video ...There is no god But Allah,Muhammed is the Messenger of Allah .
@BoyOfTheFuture4987
@BoyOfTheFuture4987 7 жыл бұрын
link for q/a session of this lecture
@MuhammadAbdillah111
@MuhammadAbdillah111 Жыл бұрын
Quran 3:78 There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book-but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”-but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.
@juanlauravenegas
@juanlauravenegas 8 жыл бұрын
This all sound so nice but how can you prove the existence text with the original text? All the ancient quranic manuscript don't match with each other.
@juanlauravenegas
@juanlauravenegas 7 жыл бұрын
Agree. That's why the bible has note at the bottom of the chapter to identify the variant . And No Christian would refer to the scriptures as literal revelation.
@juanlauravenegas
@juanlauravenegas 7 жыл бұрын
A Ma But that's the whole point. Different types of Quran. Some missing lots of versus, some others were burned. And so and so.. so is it literal? Do we have one ? Which one ? And how do you know some sheep didn't eat other chapters ?
@MuhammadAbdillah111
@MuhammadAbdillah111 Жыл бұрын
David wood and apus ate the quran also.. but nothing happened to quran.. still preserved till today..
@MuhammadAbdillah111
@MuhammadAbdillah111 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@SheikhAlladeen
@SheikhAlladeen 2 жыл бұрын
Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more. Hafs Quran in 2:10 it says that Muslims get condemned to hell for lying and in the Warsh Quran the same passage says they get condemned to hell for being LIED TO He "said" (qaala), "My lord knows ..." (21:4) Hafs verses Warsh "Say" (qul): My lord knows ... Hafs version qaala is the perfect tense and therefore Muhammad is the subject of the verb, but in the Warsh version qul is the imperative and therefore the subject is God who is commanding Muhammad/Muslims. This difference is repeated in 21:112. Example of new ruling of Fiqh due to change in grammatical position of a word: Top one is Qiraat Hafs and the bottom is Qiraat Duri. In Hafs Recitation, Arjulakum (being mansub) is linked to washing, while in Duri recitation, Arjulikum (being Majrur) is linked to wiping. Thus, we get two fiqh rulings from the two recitations i.e.: 1. Feet are to be washed in wudu. 2. Feet are to be wiped.
@Adnan00232
@Adnan00232 11 жыл бұрын
* I'm so happy ....* not sorry happy. TYPO
@cometoislamtv8946
@cometoislamtv8946 6 жыл бұрын
why he is lying regarding the Torah is been changed. Can he proof that from Quran ? And why the word "Angel" is been used for Jabraeel proof that from Quran ... please ..
@MuhammadAbdillah111
@MuhammadAbdillah111 Жыл бұрын
Quran 3:78 There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book-but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”-but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.
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