Are these headphones REALLY that good? Sennheiser HD560S review

[@jclubigan8486]

I can confirm that it can run balanced. I am running my headphones on 4 pin XLR.

[@PassionforSound]

Brilliant! Thanks for confirming, JC.

[@autoexec5367]

link to the cable?

[@GavAttackO]

@@autoexec5367 If you are still looking for a cable, or anyone else out there, Hart Audio Cables have these in both replacement and modular forms.

[@mackenlyparmelee5440]

One of the biggest selling points for me (a musician, not an audiophile) is that these headphones can be run off of anything. I don't have to worry about amps, and instead I can invest that money into other things while still having something I can mix with.

[@PassionforSound]

That's a good point!

[@portugasanwa]

Mine needs a amp, even the ifi go link plays it low!

[@PassionforSound]

Are you running then from a phone? Sometimes phones have volume limits due to government/region regulations

[@portugasanwa]

@@PassionforSound with btr5 it sounds well, Im waiting a balanced cable for it too.

[@PassionforSound]

That's great to hear. Enjoy!

[@luizengrazia5169]

Thank you for the review. Im waiting for my 560s to arrive🥹

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure! I hope you love them!

[@sonixwellness1536]

Lachlan - Your videos are organized and detailed with much information and stand on their own merit. What is just as impressive, (if not more), is that you take the time to answer all of the questions your subscribers inquire about. This is where much additional information is gleaned, helping make the best informed decisions, leaving less to chance. As for best quality headphones around this price point, I absolutely love my AKG 701’s (slightly more expensive via purchase on Amazon) Much better than the HD 598’s & HD 6xx with separation, highs, comfort and overall listening experience. Not sure why they receive little mention from all of the reviewers. Keep up the great work my friend! 👍

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks so much, SW! I have tried the K701s in the past and they are a great headphone, but a touch too lean for my tastes. I completely agree though with your comments about where they are better than the Sennheisers.

[@sonixwellness1536]

@@PassionforSound Hmmmm ….. Not familiar with the term, “lean?” As, it lacking richness in bass response? This helps greatly in better understanding your preferences as to mine when watching your reviews. Describing music and the components which allow us to embellish it, is quite similar to wine tasting. Lot of descriptive adjectives unique to each person. No one right answer or best product. Ironically, consuming great 🍷 along with matching music to suit the moment, is devilishly good! 🧠

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, it's always important to understand each reviewer's individual preferences and vocabulary. When I describe something as lean, it means the balance of the sound signature tips too much towards the treble at the expense of weight/richness in the bass and midrange. Of course, this is entirely subjective for my taste in music.

[@sonixwellness1536]

@@PassionforSound Thank you for the explanation. Duly noted and much appreciated.

[@rafa6684]

Consider trying the HD560S out with the HD569 pads. The original Sennheiser pads made from alcantara make the sound of the HD560S slightly warmer and add weight to the bass, without making them sound muddy.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks for the tip, but the schedule is SO full that I don't really have time for tweaking and pad rolling these days unless it's for a review

[@bladelefusyn3337]

Have wondered about these, love the look, thank you for the insight =)

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure. They don't feel quite as good as they look, but still an excellent headphone at the price

[@drewmorg.]

560S deserves the respect on its name. I used Peace APO V shaped Bass preset and this thing is warm and lush now. I don't know why headphones don't come this way out of the box. Even the stock K371 I tried doesn't come close to the warmth and detail the 560S can provide once EQ'd. Applying the same bass boost to the K371 didn't do the same thing for me as it did the 560S. That is, the K371 turned overly boomy and had no real magic or imaging and sparkle to the music. 560S wins all day here especially when EQ'd. Additionally, directional cues are exceptional on 560S for gaming so it always has this X-factor about it. The best way to test is in SteelSeries software there is a built in spatial sound robot voice that gives directional cues. The 560S can really deliver "front left" and "front right" above and beyond most other headphones. The K371 was not able to reproduce this FL and FR sound direction cue like the 560S. Also the quality and richness to the voice that gives out the cues was superior listening through 560S. Great headphone.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you're enjoying your 560S! Thanks for sharing your experiences

[@rafa6684]

I agree that these aren't the greatest for piano concerts, but still very good. The notes just don't have the body and weight they need to really sound fully realistic, however in return the HD560S give a great sense of airyness and spaciousness that the HD6XX don't have. On the other hand, I do get goosebumps while listening to piano concerts with the HD6XX (via the Dragonfly Red [DAC] + iFi Zen Air Can [AMP]). The impact of the music is awesome on them thanks to their more intimate presentation.

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, two quite different headphones and both with their place 🙂

[@soulfulfool]

6XX demand power of OTL amp its 300 ohm vs 120 on 560. People even say that 560 got better bass but at the end their amps are too weak for 6XX. 6XX got rather small soundstage, average separation and layering, excellent midrange and timbre, didnt find it veiled like some said highs are very well done for that price. Since I own 6XX I dont need other Senn's, HD800s can be easily blown away by my ADX5000 so only left orpheus he-1 but only blessed by life can own that :)

[@DaGleese]

To be honest, I am greatful of that little gap at the bottom, I find my ears breathe much better with the 560S than my DT990's for example. It could also be the difference in the open back design as well, though.

[@PassionforSound]

Open back will definitely make a difference, but that gap could be benefiting even more. Glad you're happy with them 🙂

[@mahinderp2714]

I've been looking everywhere to see if the HD 560s need an amp / DAC or not and nobody seem to even bother with it. Thank you

[@PassionforSound]

You're welcome. I gather my review gave you a suitable answer?

[@h-dawg6462]

throw some hd 559 pads on them and the subs come through a little better! the sound warms up just enough to remain neutral, but takes advantage of that 6hz low-extension. also noticed that the 559's pads are better quality overall anyway.

[@PassionforSound]

That's interesting! Thanks for sharing.

[@jbarkerhill92]

I have the HD 400 Pro, which apparently are similar to HD 560s. I think the HD 400 pro has larger and more comfortable earcups. I think they lean somewhat towards sibilance. I saw on a frequency graph there’s a spike at 5.5 kHz. Also am trying to find a new audio interface and notice some interfaces seem to accentuate sibilance more than others. Maybe has to do with impedance matching but not sure

[@PassionforSound]

It's unlikely impedance matching so much as just the character of the DAC and output stages within the interfaces. I haven't tried the HD 400 Pro so I can't help with any impressions on them and/or their pairing with specific gear.

[@jbarkerhill92]

@@PassionforSound thx for the response. Yeah, I’m an audiophile and also do some edm music production with FL studio. So I’m trying to find an audio chain that has non fatiguing sound for pleasure listening, but also fairly accurate so my mixes translate well. The HD 400 Pros have been great headphones for me for a few years. Now I’m upgrading my laptop and audio interface, and was surprised to find both the UA Volt 1 and the Focusrite Solo interfaces noticeably accentuate the sibilance in the headphones. My old interface, m audio fast track + cheap headphone amp, and also iPod touch, both sound great and minimal sibilance when paired with the hd 400 pros. Going to try the Motu M2 interface and hope that does the trick. Saw that output impedance is very low, less than 1 ohm, on the Motu m2, whereas it’s >50 ohms on both other interfaces I tried. Will have to research output stage

[@PassionforSound]

Ah yes, changes to output impedance for the headphone socket could definitely alter the sound significantly. Good luck finding the right pairing - I hope it's a quick and easy search.

[@PyxisLearning]

I appreciate your attention to detail, sonic and otherwise, in your reviews of a wide variety of equipment. In this video you mention that your regular mic drops out briefly and is replaced by another. Can you share what mic you use regularly, or what mics you recommend? I find that the sound on your reviews is quite natural. Thanks again for your excellent reviews!

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Theo, so glad you're liking the reviews! I currently use the Blue Encore 300 mic with a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 interface. I'm very happy with the results. There are links at the end of my video descriptions that you can click through if that's easier. (They are affiliate links so I get a small percentage of any sales)

[@j.d.4697]

I personally prefer more "true to the source" headphones and rather deal with less engaging listening in certain situations and maybe EQ in some pep than have a more colored pair of headphones and try to EQ out whatever is too overemphasized for me.

[@PassionforSound]

I think the challenge we all face is reconciling what is actually true to source, but I take your point and it's good that you've found your preference 🙂🙂

[@NO_SIMP_ZONE]

You have such a soothing voice

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you like it. It's probably because my son is often asleep in the room next door when I record. 🙂

[@jerzilla]

Nice video, i got these and enjoy them for mixing and producing, the comfort is amazing. Also head shape matters because i dont have the described gap you have even with glasses on.

[@PassionforSound]

Great point about head shape. Glad you're enjoying them so much. They're a lovely headphone!

[@drewpknutz1410]

I could only handle the 560s for about a week, the sound was just too fatiguing at certain frequencies. The spikes would wake me up pissed when I dozed off with them on. I bought some Clears and the difference is mind boggling, but the price difference is boggling as well.

[@PassionforSound]

Yeah, they're not always an easy listen (the 560S). Glad you're enjoying the Clears!

[@spamcan9208]

lol yeah, these aren't a good headphone to fall asleep with and that's what I've been looking for. Also realized I'd rather have an IEM for that situation. I kept them but I'm looking at warm IEMs

[@paullazarro4295]

Thanks for this. I love my 560s'.

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure. Glad you're enjoying them!

[@sanchomill]

Nice review but it didn't answer the question I have now : what if you had to choose between hd560s and hd6xx, and why? Thanks!

[@PassionforSound]

That's all going to come down to sonic preferences. The HD6xx is a smoother, more vocal-focussed sound. The HD560S has more treble energy and is a little less refined.

[@sanchomill]

@@PassionforSound Less fatiguing than the hd560s that I use to find too bright sometimes?

[@PassionforSound]

If you found the 560S too bright sometimes then the HD6XX will definitely be a better choice for you because they're noticeably smoother in the treble.

[@fletchermunson6225]

Thanks Lachlan. 3.5mm plugs make me nervous. I keep having visions of the plug broken off in the amp flush with the faceplate. Then one get into rescue scenarios. Epoxy something to the broken one and pull? haha.

[@PassionforSound]

Good point, but in this case, I failed to mention that it uses a locking system which would take the brunt of any mishaps. You'd still have a piece to remove, but there'd be a decent chunk of plastic to grab onto

[@guatobean2869]

Not to offend anyone but the worth it things...if it’s in your budget yes of course..if it’s your tonal preference without a doubt. It can also convert you to its tonal presentation. BUT if you have more to spend then NO definitely not worth it. Unless you’re into collecting budget gear (which I am for IEMs). Anyway, great vid.

[@PassionforSound]

I completely agree!

[@nikhilpatolia6370]

Tried these and didn’t like them, they sounded very hollow. Nothing had life to it. Headphones I’ve tried: 6xx, dt880 600ohm, dt990, dt1990, sundara

[@PassionforSound]

I tend to agree. Unless you want a neutral, reference type sound, there are better options out there

[@bitterbuffalo8997]

I'm just thinking these are excellent work from home headphones. The 5 series sennheiser is most comfortable to me, over the 6 series. You can easily replacable pads, excellent build quality, so something that will last. Connect it to a dac/amp with a warm sound signature and you're good to go for background music.

[@PassionforSound]

They're definitely not a bad option, but it will depend on whether someone is happy to have a warm setup for everything. I don't know that they'd be my first choice for an all-rounder, but they're very good at what they're designed for.

[@ArtVandelay-ImporterExporter]

@@PassionforSound In this price range what would be your first choice as an all arounder that can be driven with just an iphone? Thanks for the reply in advance.

[@PassionforSound]

Good question, Michial. I'm not sure the power capabilities of iPhones, but I'd probably head towards the HE400SE if it can be driven - you might have to ask around for people who've used them with the iPhone. Otherwise, the HD560S is definitely a good option and the beyerdynamic dt880 is another. The dt880 has a very specific sound, but I still like it. I reviewed the 250 ohm special edition which is a little different to the standard version, but a lower impedance regular dt880 would be a nice choice too.

[@kevink8321]

Hi Lachlan, the thoroughness of your review was impressive. What's even more commendable is really your passion and that it brings so many passionate hi-fi lovers to your forum. I learn almost as much from reading the posts as watching your videos. Kudos to all. I stream music from my PC to an all-in-one unit which serve as both headphone amp and pre-amp. Occasionally I hope my primary headphone, Focal Elegia, can have a bit more warmth and low-end dynamics. To that end, lately I've been looking into adding equalization into the signal path. I tried a very popular parametric equalization software which didn't help (and even messed up some drivers in the PC.) I wonder if you can shed lights on options of adding equalization and, particularly, if parametric equalization can be added. Thanks for any advice you can give.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Kevin, so glad you're enjoying the channel and the community! I'm not a big user of EQ so I may not be particularly useful. I use Roon for my playback and it interfaces with Qobuz and Tidal plus includes an excellent EQ function, but it's not a cheap option. Beyond that, I've reviewed the Sonarworks SoundID software, but had issues getting an output that wasn't resampled so it might not be the best if you're looking for maximum quality audio.

[@kevink8321]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for that. I was able to figure out how to plug-in parametric eq with my music streaming service. I'm sure there are many purist think eq is infidel. However, by being able to meaningfully changes tonal characteristics, it can make a headphone more suited to one's taste, such as taming down the aggressive mid and adding a bit of bass heft with Elegia. On the flip side, applying eq is a delicate thing. One change can impact other characteristics and, more often than not, not for the better. So there's no free lunch. Nevertheless, playing eq is like playing god with headphones. It opened a whole new world for this hobby. Cheers and happy listening.

[@PassionforSound]

I agree, Kevin. Happy listening to you too 😁

[@Princeton_James]

Yes it is worth the hype. These made me return my 58x which I was never really in love with.

[@PassionforSound]

I agree that they're clearly better than the HD58X. Glad you're liking them!

[@TheColby988]

@@PassionforSound hi can I know how the 560s are better than the 58x as I’m stuck between these two

[@PassionforSound]

I find the 58X to lack clarity and definition in the sound. The 560S can be a touch too bright at times, but it's a better overall headphone from bass through treble IMO and presents a better combination of clarity, bass, soundstage, midrange and treble.

[@Princeton_James]

@@PassionforSound I agree with everything you mentioned. To address the brightness I changed out my earpads. As you mentioned they were just a little too bright. The earpads made all the difference. Now they are one of my favorite pairs of headphones. I would say the only downside is the clamping force really hasn't improved. They are one of my tightest pairs. Overall these are a solid set of headphones.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you're enjoying them. Good idea swapping the pads!

[@imammarc]

"For those of you with particularly large heads" 😂😂😂 how you said that with a straight face I don’t know!

[@PassionforSound]

🤣🤣

[@dtz1000]

Does it have the Sennheiser veil? That's what always puts me off Sennheiser headphones.

[@PassionforSound]

Definitely not. In some ways, I wish the 560S did have a touch of the veil as it can be a little aggressive at times.

[@DanAndreiVladut]

Would really want to know your opinion: What headphone would you recommend for monitoring and mixing voiceovers? I care about getting a really faithful and natural recording. Would the 560s be too clinical, making the final mix sound warmer than i would hear it in the headphone? Would the 6xx be too rich making the final result thinner than intended? Do you have another recommendation? Price is not a big factor. I'm currently using some high end will tuned IEMs with great results, but I prefer the comfort of headphones for long recording sessions. This is strictly for vocals. Thanks man! Love the channel.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Dan, I've got a few favourites that I use (in no particular order): Ollo S4X (I've got V1, but if there's a v1.1 it will be even better), Ollo S4R v1.1, Audeze LCD-1 and the new beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X is great too (review coming soon) Other than the Ollo S4R, these all have slightly tonality quirks, but they're all easy enough to adapt for. The HD560S would also be ok at a pinch, but will require more mental adaptation to get the mix right IMO

[@DanAndreiVladut]

@@PassionforSound thanks for replying on such an old video. I just watched your review of the closed Ollo pair. Might have to go there. 👍

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure. The Ollos are excellent in all areas except soundstage which is probably not relevant for a tonally balanced mixing tool.

[@jasonfranciosa]

Great review, the direct competitor to the 560s in my opinion is the TYGR 300R. I ended up keeping the 300R even though the 560s has a bit better frequency response, but with a bit of EQ I prefer the 300r. Both are excellent in my opinion for the price.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Jason, I'm keen to try the TYGR, but I believe it's a less reference tuning and more suited for music and gaming, yes?

[@jasonfranciosa]

They are slightly V-Shaped, but not nearly as much as most other V-Shaped headphones. It adds that bit of fun the 560s is missing without being overboard like the DT 990's or the Black 880's.

[@PassionforSound]

Sounds good. Hopefully I can try the sometime and maybe do a review...

[@jasonfranciosa]

@@PassionforSound Yea, the part that I love about them is the imaging. It's unrivaled at this price point. At 59 seconds in the song "Eulogy" by TOOL, part of the percussion comes in you can pinpoint the hits location almost like you were standing behind the drummer watching him do it.

[@PassionforSound]

Sounds very cool. Imaging and soundstage are so important to me

[@jackjack3874]

I still have not finished watching the video, but I have to ask. In fact I have asked other reviewers and did not get a response. These headphones are flat for example in the bass region. But if a song has an increase of 10db in bass, and headphones follow let's say the harman and have a 10db uplift, would the 20db not be much? Also, you mention that the vocals of the song lack in richness and character. Does that not mean that the song was meant that way but we are just used to warmer sound due to warmer headphones? This really does my head in... for me either the creators or the headphone people should have a flat sound. Please respond. Maybe there is something I am missing. I am new to this. p.s. the assumption here is that the audio engineer of the song did their job correctly in the first place.

[@DaGleese]

Welcome to the flat fallacy. Everyone wants flat sound until they have it, then they complain it's boring.

[@chefsteve8381]

@@DaGleese so true, try using sonarworks, it just destroys the frequency curves in headphones making them sound lifeless and boring

[@PassionforSound]

It's a great question, Jack. It's probably best to answer it by explaining how I understand the recording process to work and remembering that these headphones are designed to be "reference". As music is being produced, the aim is to make a recording that sounds good on everything from high end stereos to cheap car radios and everything in between. A recording engineer (or maybe producer) is looking to adjust the mix for the best possible sound according to the vision for the track and/or the tastes of the band, producer, engineer, etc. One of the challenges they face is to accurately predict the end result of the mix across all different playback devices (i.e. will it sound the way they want it to on your setup?) To achieve this, they need to begin with something that doesn't add colouration to the sound - something "reference". So they take a flat response setup (normally studio monitors) and make their mix using those knowing that if there's extra bass from the reference then everyone will hear extra bass. In contrast, if they used a bassy system to mix on, we might all hear a recording with too little bass because they under-EQed it due to the speakers adding colouration. So, reference products help people mixing and mastering to better understand what they're changes are actually doing and how it will affect the end listener. They're often not the most enjoyable sounding devices, but some people seem to like hearing the uncoloured playback even though it's not necessarily how the track was intended to be heard. It was mixed to be played on non-reference systems. As a bonus point, many sound engineers (at least in the past) would have a set of deliberately poor speakers or would take recordings to their car stereo to check how the mix would sound on poor quality systems. This is particularly true if radio playback was a fish for the track(s).

[@jackjack3874]

@@PassionforSound Thank you very much for explaining... what you are saying makes perfect sense... we are in the age of information however... a song could nowadays carry information of what the intended frequency response is... it could then interact with the audio device to reproduce it... Tech people can make this happen.. maybe it is not to their best interest tho as far as sales are concerned

[@PassionforSound]

That's very true. I think we've sadly seen where that thinking takes us though. MQA was meant to take us down that sort of path, but it appears to have become a royalty-grab and licensing exercise rather than a transparent method of bringing the artists' and producers' visions to our homes. I definitely like the concept you're suggesting - it would be amazing. We just need some trustworthy people to have similar thoughts 🙂

[@aRc11-11]

I hear clinical and I think cynical. With an 150 ohm impedance, a great candidate for the warmer tube amp or some toastie hybrids.

[@PassionforSound]

Definitely work well with tube amps, particularly if you're looking at higher output impedance to bump up the warmth of the 560S

[@zzezzobike]

Definitely work better with class A tranzistor amp , despite having xduoo 60 2 and DarkVoice.. selling them and keeping 6xx

[@PassionforSound]

I agree. A bit of warmth or smoothness from the amp does help. They're ultimately not a headphone designed for enjoyment, but for reference though so many will prefer the sound from HD6XX, etc.

[@Daniel456324]

Couple questions here. Did you break in the headphones, it requires a 100+ hour burn in period prior to making a fair assessment. Also did you use a DAC + AMP driver?

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, all my reviews are made after extended casual listening which provides plenty of burn-in for the headphones. I also use a wide range of DACs and amps with the Chord TT2 and M-Scaler being the core DAC/amp I use as a reference.

[@ArtVandelay-ImporterExporter]

Thank you for the review. Would these be good for classical music through my iphone? I like to listen to classical while reading.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Michial, they should handle that task well I expect. Their slightly bright/edgy treble may be distracting, but the iPhone might also help tame that - I'm not sure. For classical music, that sightly enhanced treble can also be preferable so this will be a personal preference thing, but as a start of say they're a good headphone to try.

[@ArtVandelay-ImporterExporter]

@@PassionforSound I appreciate the response. I am no audiophile. I imagine a little eq can adjust. I just want something with good imaging and soundstage for classical music that is under $200.

[@PassionforSound]

These should do just great then 🙂

[@bazadam6635]

Can you tell me if the HD560s can be considered as an extension to the Airpods Pro, i.e. giving more better soundstage, better resolution, better imaging and similar sound signature? Please. I also intend to pair the HD560s with the FiiO BTR5. Please help.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Baz, I haven't tried the Airpods Pro so I really can't say - sorry!

[@lividmatter4862]

Do you know how these stack up to my daily drivers HD 598SR ? (basically a refresh of the HD598) I am wondering whether to get these, or jump for the HD6XX I use them purely for enjoyment. (music and gaming)

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't heard the 598SR, but if you're looking for enjoyment I'd go straight to the 6XX. The 560S are not a particularly fun headphone

[@apoorvasharma7]

Are the Sundaras worth the jump in price over the 560s? I am using the fiio k3 dac/amp and I am comfortable with applying slight eq. I need an upgrade over my HD 599SE

[@PassionforSound]

If you're looking for an enjoyable headphone, the Sundaras are definitely preferable. If you're after something for analytical / studio use them the HD560S are probably slightly better (a bit less EQ required for a flat response)

[@ChrisKeyman]

Hello! Nice reviews! What is your top 3 headphones for mixing and mastering? Thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you like them! My top 3 would be Ollo S4R v1.1, Ollo S4X (I have v1) and Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X

[@ChrisKeyman]

@@PassionforSound is there a newer version of s4x? And what is the difference? What is the difference also between the DT900 ? Thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

The S4X v1.1 I think has physical changes only (not tuning), but I don't want to guarantee that. The DT 900 vs S4X is a very close call and I just slightly prefer the S4X on comfort and its use of a dual entry cable (very personal preference for my desktop setup). The S4R is the best of the bunch though because it sounds just like a set of neutral monitors whereas the S4X and 900 have a touch of extra richness I feel

[@ChrisKeyman]

@@PassionforSound interesting ! What do you have to say about the Lcd-1, the Avantone Planar and the Austrian Audio x65?

[@PassionforSound]

Of those three, I've only tried the LCD-1. I love it's size and weight and would put it level with the 900 and S4X I think, but it's got its own tuning issues so I feel like you'd need to adjust a little for its tonality. I've got a review of the LCD-1 which might help to clarify

[@drrejected5228]

Do you think the HD 560s has better imaging, detail retrieval and soundstage than your DT 880?

[@PassionforSound]

I think they're about on the same level just with different tonalities

[@towsifshahriarshovo]

Under $200 what are your favorite headphones?? Recommend some headphones in different applications. ❤️

[@PassionforSound]

I've got a list of recommended products linked in the description and you can filter it to headphones only. I've reviewed everything on the list so you can then hear my detailed thoughts on any that catch your attention. 🙂

[@andyr72]

Hi. What’s the song used covering the glamour shots at the beginning? I googled some of the lyrics and - crickets. Thanks!

[@PassionforSound]

I'll double check and let you know... 🙂

[@PassionforSound]

Sorry for the super-slow response!!! It's called City of Mine by Snake City

[@andyr72]

@@PassionforSound Wonderful! Thank you. Really like it!

[@PassionforSound]

It's available from Epidemic Sounds (link in the description)

[@sopasadena1499]

Great review. Do you recommend the 560S over the Drop HD6xx? Thanks

[@PassionforSound]

I personally prefer the HD6xx, but some will like the greater treble emphasis from the HD560S

[@cremersalex]

I disagree with a few points. I play piano every day and they are perfect headphones for piano. Even when you play really soft, the sound is never muffled. The bass is incredibly articulate and not boosted (to give body to instruments), just like the made-for-studio 'Ollo Audio' headphones are not boosted in the bass. You never mentioned the forward mid-range (which is a few dB too hot in several areas) and that to me can easily lead to harsness or shoutiness, even with modern recordings. The HD 560S is the same headphone as the HD 400 Pro, which is made for mixing and mastering. I also have the HD 600 which is better for just listening to music even though the HD 600's stereo field is much narrower than that of the 560S. OTOH, voices sound much closer and intimate to the listener on the HD 600.

[@PassionforSound]

I'm glad you like them so much, Alex

[@chefsteve8381]

HI did you notice any sibilance on the 560s, from the reports i get there is a lot, that's what has scared me from these, thanks.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Steve, I didn't find any significant sibilance, but the tuning means that anyone trying to get punch and warmth out of these is likely to turn them up too much and will find the treble uncomfortable as a result.

[@PaulGreeve]

Are you aware that Hifiman have discontinued the 400i 2020, replacing them with the newer 400se Global Edition? These have the’ Stealth Magnets’. I bought my pair via AliExpress for $210 before the Global Additions were released, unfortunately this means I got the China Only version and now I find Hifiman won’t honour the warranty on these outside of China. At least they are extremely well made and sound sublime (to my old ears) so I’m hoping I won’t miss that warranty. I see that Addicted To Audio currently have the Global Addition for AUD $259.

[@PassionforSound]

Oh no. I have the SE here for review (the silver ones, yes?) and I'm not sure they're as good. I haven't tested them properly yet though so we'll see...

[@PaulGreeve]

@@PassionforSound Are yours the International version? The ones with the Stealth Magnets?

[@PaulGreeve]

@@PassionforSound The manual stated that they need around 140 hours burn in. I’ve just used mine for a few months to burn them in, so I can’t say that it made a difference but I felt it did. What I can say is that I really love mine, if I upgrade in the future it will have to be for some major sound improvements and when I have the budget, which is extremely unlikely given my current income. What I did do was to change the pads for some super soft some thick memory foam pads and two Dekoni Nuggets to make them almost disappear when I wear them. Mine (being the Chinese version) cam with a nice, yet simple, soft black rubber cable that appears to be way nicer than that janky silver cable. I can’t understand why Hifiman thought that cable was better than the original. I’m also really annoyed that they decided to refuse warranty outside of China.

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, they're using the stealth magnet tech. As I understand it, that's what SE actually means on all their models: Stealth Edition. Sounds like I should give them some time to burn-in before I judge them at all...

[@zach5836]

any comparison with the sundara? thinking about grabbing them+modi/asgard, but was looking for a comparison for the 560s or similar

[@amargnwalkr]

If you're thinking of getting the Sundara, then just do it. It will be at least slightly better in every way. I use mine with a Modi/Magni and I don't think you could do much better for the money. Sidenote: the cable on the Sundara kinda sucks, but there are plenty of good after market options for pretty cheap.

[@zach5836]

@@amargnwalkr would you say they’re slighrly dry or overtechnical at all?

[@rishabhs2010]

@@zach5836 agreed with @MarginWalker. Ive heard pple saying that sundara sounds leaner when not amped properly. I have them but havent bought an amp yet.

[@PassionforSound]

I'm going to add another vote for the Sundara. The HD560S are nice if you need a reference/neutral sound, but the Sundara are way more enjoyable and still true to source in that they're not doing anything crazy to colour the sound excessively. As for the whole amping thing, it's a bit of a myth about headphones sounding lean when under-powered. If they can reach the required listening volumes with some room to spare and aren't distorting then you're just hearing the character and quality of the amp, not a lack of power.

[@rishabhs2010]

@@PassionforSound thx Lachlan for clarification. So far I'm happy with sound I'm getting from my dongle dac. But if I have to go for an amp, which one u would suggest? Heresey and L30 are same priced here.

[@trotomas]

I returned mine because I wasn't happy about the vocals...too soft, maybe it was my copy and I should try another one (I also have the 58x)

[@PassionforSound]

It's definitely not as thick through the mids as the 58x so if you're used to that, I can understand being less satisfied with the HD560S

[@luffygear5362]

Excellent and very detailed review man. I just had one doubt. I’m planning to buy them to use mainly with my iphone x and macbook pro(without amp). Will they sound as good as when powered with amp? I already own an HD 569, so will they atleast sound better than them? Would be very thankful if you could help me out with this. I’m getting very confused as to whether i should buy them or not.

[@PassionforSound]

That's a tricky question! The 560S aren't hard to drive, but they're also not particularly forgiving so you may find that they sound a bit harsh from the direct outputs of the phone and laptop. I also haven't heard the 569 for ages now so I can't really say if the 560S is better. Can you tell me what sorts of improvements you're seeking? (I.e. a different sound signature, more clarity, soundstage, etc?)

[@luffygear5362]

@@PassionforSound Thanks alot for the quick reply! I mainly wanna buy them cause I haven’t tried open back headphones yet. Thats the only reason I want them. Apart from that, I don’t have any particular preference for sound signature, but yeah I don’t like too much of bass which leads to muddiness in music. Even if they’re too harsh, I can adjust the EQ in spotify accordingly. But since I’m gonna spend a good amount on them, I just hope they sound significantly better than my 569. Also I’m using the apple dongle, and I’ve heard that it acts like a mini dac? Also, is the HD 599 better than 560s?

[@ragecandy]

Honesly I think the 400i is basically an upgrade on every front over the 560s, also the 4,5k peak makes the 560s waaay more fatiguing to me, mine were really clampy too

[@PassionforSound]

I think both have their place, but I'd choose the HE400i in most cases I think

[@CardinalsFanever]

Please, review Audix A150 headphones.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi PA, I'll see what I can do 🙂

[@narutofanz4]

I purchased these headphones, and I use them with the EVGA NU-Audio Sound card. Great sound even at half volume. But I feel these are still power HUNGRY! A standalone headphone amp would do it justice.

[@PassionforSound]

Because they have relatively high impedance, you will need something with a reasonable amount of voltage output, but they're not too bad in the scheme of things.

[@narutofanz4]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for the tip!

[@josaphcj7199]

He400se vs hd560s? Hd560s vs hd650? Does this require an amp?

[@PassionforSound]

It depends on your needs. HD560S is very analytical in its tuning. HE400SE is closer in sound than HD650 and is a more enjoyable listen than the HD560S. HD650 is the pick for pure enjoyment though. I'd recommend an amp for the HD560S, but it can be driven to reasonable levels by low power devices.

[@prashaantt]

Another fantastic review! I have these phones and although they're easy to drive to comfortable levels with my iPhone, I'm wondering if a USB DAC is going to further improve their SQ. I'm eyeing the EarMen Eagle that you've reviewed earlier - do you think that would make for a good combo?

[@PassionforSound]

That should provide a noticeable improvement in sound, Prashant. You might also consider the NextDrive Spectra X that I reviewed recently, depending on whether you want something a little punchier and warmer for the HD560S. The iPhone version of the Spectra X goes by a different name and I've mentioned it in the description and/or a pinned comment over on the review

[@prashaantt]

@@PassionforSound Thanks, I'll check that out as well!

[@davidwright2379]

Hi Lachlan, great video reviews 👍 Quick question, I have the hd599se and am considering also getting the hd560s, be very interested in your comments and suggestions, the hd599se are great, but my son has just as well claimed them 😁 Cheers Dave

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Dave, it's a long time since I heard the 599 so I can't really provide any comparison for you - sorry!

[@davidwright2379]

@@PassionforSound thanks Lachlan, really appreciate you getting back to, how about the hd569, have you done a review etc, they are closed back design, would be great to get your thoughts, Dave

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't tried those either - sorry. I don't get a lot of review offers from Sennheiser direct

[@davidwright2379]

@@PassionforSound cheers Lachlan, I'm looking at the hd569 closed back just as a filler till I get my amp set up complete, will let you know what I think, as demo trial was quite impressive indeed, cheers Dave

[@PassionforSound]

Sounds good. Thanks Dave

[@brandonburr4900]

Will the audeze lcd 1 be the start of reviewing more audeze lcd headphones? I have noticed audeze has made some recent revisions to the pads and tuning of headphones (I think the pad change across the lcd lineup if I'm not mistaken and even a slight rearrangement of the magnets and fluxor array like in the lcd-x). Revisions that don't require eqing the headphone. Thanks!

[@PassionforSound]

I hope so. It's the beginning of our relationship so we'll see how it goes. Thankfully I'll be saying good things so it should help. (To be clear, I would be comfortable saying bad things if the LCD-1 weren't good, but I really like them)

[@CardinalsFanever]

Sennheiser HD560s vs. Mackie MC-450?

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't heard the Mackies - sorry!

[@davidwright2379]

Hey Lachlan, just about set to go to buy these, for use on a mobile phone and tablet, what do you reckon, be OK??? Thanks mate, Dave

[@PassionforSound]

They should do fine I think - they're pretty easy to drive. If needed, you can always pick up a

[@davidwright2379]

@@PassionforSound thanks Lachlan, keep up the great reviews mate, they are always a great watch and learn 👍

[@PassionforSound]

Glad I can help 🙂🙂

[@davidwright2379]

@@PassionforSound you certainly have mate, thank you, how would they oair with the fiio btr5 portable amp, be interested in your comments and opinion Lachlan, your reviews are really clear and concise, sorry to pepper you with questions too, Dave

[@PassionforSound]

No problems, Dave. They'll do well with the BTR5 I think. I haven't tried the new one, but the old one was solid

[@dagohoyting2417]

So what didn't you answer the question? Does it live up to the hype?

[@PassionforSound]

I think it sort of does (which is probably why I didn't definitively answer the question). It's excellent for the price if you're looking for reference style headphone, but I don't think it should be generally recommended as the best headphone at the price because it's not an enjoyable listen for people wanting engagement and fun in the music.

[@lewest7317]

@@PassionforSound Please define engagement and fun. I think it can vary with the individual. I personally have a lot of fun with a very clear and accurate presentation over punchy and artificial. I go to lots of shows in the Greater NYC Area and use what I hear live as reference for speakers and headphones.

[@PassionforSound]

Engagement and fun is definitely subjective so I can't define it so much as share the products that I personally find engaging and fun (I tend to refer to this in some form or other in every review) so that people can work out if they share similar tastes.

[@johngammon963]

Great review and great content - subbed

[@PassionforSound]

I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for the sub. 🙂🙂

[@user-ug2iz3ir5u]

im too late for this already but i hope the author would still reply, how do you compare this hd560s to the new hd660s2? Would you say it is tonally similar? And that the s2 is like 10% better, or higher?

[@PassionforSound]

They're actually quite different tonally. I find the HD560S to have a bit too much treble whereas the HD660S2 is just right. Personally, I think the HD660S2 is more than 10% better, but a lot of that comes down to my sonic preferences. No doubt, the HD660S2 is technically stronger, but that won't always guarantee that you will like its sound more. Have you seen my HD660S2 review? It might help.

[@dr.shivamkukreja]

Sir i m currently running a shitty earphones m thinking of getting a new headphones but m not sure which i m a huge pink floyd fan and m comfused around Sennheiser hd 560s akg k702 and beyerdynamic 880 pro (250) all these 3 are basically of same cost here in india I think i can spare some cash and get some ifi zen air dac amp combo as it is cheap I will be greatfull as you are one of that actually know the sound signature and what could be the best Love to hear your input Regards

[@PassionforSound]

All three are excellent headphones so hard to go wrong I think. From memory, the 702 is the least bassy of the three, the HD560S probably the most natural (with some extra treble) and the 880 a bit v-shaped which is fun and dynamic, but can push the mids away a little. I think the decision comes back to what you think you might enjoy most. I'd probably go for the 560S or 880 myself - both are excellent

[@dr.shivamkukreja]

@@PassionforSound love to get some input from you Now Will go with 560s 🎼🎵 By the way love your content 😍

[@rderubeis]

i cant decide between the dt880 250ohm or the 560s. i own both but cant decide which to keep. i do competative gaming movies and music. Any suggestions which ever i dopnt keep im going to sell to get some money back. I also have schiit heresy amp

[@PassionforSound]

That's a tough one, Ricky! I'd probably keep the dt880 if it were me (I have both too) and my reason for that decision is comfort rather than sound because they're both good and flawed in different ways.

[@rderubeis]

@@PassionforSound i like the feel and lightness of the 560s. do u think for pure comp gaming the dt880 or 560s is better

[@PassionforSound]

I'm not a gamer in that way so I can't comment - sorry!

[@mitroakos]

Very good review, thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

You're welcome!

[@j.d.4697]

Sennheiser confirmed you can run them balanced.

[@PassionforSound]

Awesome! Thanks for confirming!

[@gregsullivan7408]

Yes, only 84mW for 120dB, but into 120 ohms, thats about 3V RMS, which is much higher than the 1V out of a typical phone - an amp would be required. The issue is voltage - not power

[@PassionforSound]

You should never get anywhere near 120dB - that's instant hearing damage. Even accounting for peaks in the music, 100-110dB is all you need to allow for. Also, anyone expecting peak sonic performance from a phone is probably being a bit unreasonable. A phone will drive these quite adequately for normal listening usage.

[@gregsullivan7408]

@@PassionforSound you were the one who mentioned 120dB! You seemed to be implying that it would be easy to drive them to 120dB - I'm simply pointing out that your assertion is incorrect.

[@PassionforSound]

Just went and rewatched and you've taken it out of context, Greg. Everything I said there is true. Portable devices (I didn't say "phones") will absolutely handle these just fine and I then also clarified that 90mW requires just 1mW and that even 90mW is still louder than what's safe for extended listening.

[@gregsullivan7408]

​@@PassionforSound a phone's output is typical for a "portable device". If you think 120dB is unrealistically loud, why did you say that only 84mW is required for 120dB? Just as an aside, I actually don't agree that occasional *peaks* of 120dB are all that unrealistic, if listening to high dynamic range content loudly. I have read that it can get that loud close to an orchestra. NwAvguy (do you know him?) also wrote what I think is a very good article about what we should aim for as a peak SPL. I can pull out the link if you like, but he thought about 118dB would be reasonable for an absolute maximum, but a more normal level would be 110 - 115. (I stress that these are peak - not average) I agree completely that with a sensitivity of 110dB @ 1V, these will usually be ok with portables.

[@gregsullivan7408]

Just discovered that my "portable device" (Pixel 6 through the Google USB-C to 3.5mm adaptor) only puts out a max of 400mV, which is a lot less than the 1V from the Apple dongle. (about 8dB less, which is subjectivity about 43% less). I'm rather annoyed - apparently this is to comply with a silly EU standard. I'd have to get a better dongle/adaptor to enjoy the HD560S I suspect. Unfortunately the Apple dongle doesn't produce max output on Android (unless some hoops are jumped through - I don't want to)

[@exodusvelo]

How is the audeze tests going??

[@PassionforSound]

Good. I've been using them a lot for video editing and general computer sound (video calls, etc.) I haven't done much critical listening with them yet

[@bubblebubble50]

Can you replace the 560s stock earpads with HD600 earpads?

[@PassionforSound]

I'm not certain, but I don't think so because the HD560S pads are slightly D-shaped

[@unalloyedbee8691]

How does this compact to the us 6xx

[@PassionforSound]

It's a very different tonality. The HD6XX is a warmer, richer sounding headphone while the HD560S is designed to be more neutral. I personally prefer the HD6XX for music, but the HD560S works better for reference situations like editing/mixing sound.

[@DeathWalkthroughs]

Hi! Does it compare with the HD 599?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Unmoth, it's a long time since I heard the 599, but I'd say from memory that they're comparable and a more enjoyable, less reference headphone. If you're looking for listening enjoyment, I think the 599 is the way to go.

[@DeathWalkthroughs]

@@PassionforSound thank you!! I already have a 599, and i love it! I was thinking about buying the HD 560s as an upgrade, cuz i thought it would sound the same with more detail. Thanks to your answer, i won't have to anymore xD What do you think about the HD 58x Jubilee? How does it compare to HD599?

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't tried both side by side to say for sure, but I recall enjoying the brief listen I had to the 599. The 58X didn't impress me in the same way so I'd be inclined to stick with 599 based on my very brief experience

[@sharonsalazar8137]

thnxx

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure 🙂

[@carldaniel3155]

I had the Sennheiser HD560s, but was disappointed in the lack of bass! Bought the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro 32ohm model.... just wow. I love it... the detail and clarity and weight in the bass is just incredible (tried the 250 ohm model - had the same sound signature as the 32ohm model) - the clamp pressure is better than the HD560s also. Love the DT770 pro 1.6m short fixed lead. The frequency response sounds so linear (very natural) on the DT770 pro 32ohm. Instrument separation is so much better than the HD560s - the nuances in the music on the DT770 are just incredible. Really really impressed. My wife listened to both and also agrees on my findings. I hope this helps in anyone making a headphone choice. ps the sub bass on Hans Zimmer 2049 distorted and popped on the HD560s, but the DT770 go super low and play cleanly with a big kick and presence.

[@PassionforSound]

I still haven't tried the DT770, but I can definitely understand where you're coming from about the bass from the HD560S

[@alouisschafer7212]

If you want ultimate bass clarity you need planars.

[@PassionforSound]

I don't know if that's entirely true - there are some excellent dynamics these days producing wonderful bass. I am mostly a planar listener myself, but I've been impressed by a few dynamics recently (DT 900 Pro X, ZMF Atrium, etc.) It's a different type of bass, often with less extension, but better impact.

[@JasonCioffi]

770 is closed back. Not really a fair comparison. If you're willing to accept the compromise in soundstage for bass you probably shouldn't have purchased an open back in the first place.

[@PassionforSound]

There are some very bassy open backs on the market so that's probably a bit of an over-generalisation. I agree that the HD560S lack some bass, but it's not because they're open, it's just their tuning. I also don't agree that only planars can provide great bass experiences. There are some excellent dynamic driver headphones for bass (depending on preferences)

[@danterikxx]

these over the 6xx? and why?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Dante, definitely take the 6XX over these in my opinion (unless you specifically want a reference tuning)

[@brandonburr4900]

For musical involvement, particularly vocals, not many will better the 650 or 6xx. They also love tube amps and will scale up with better gear. I don't think I will ever sell my 650. My first true high end headphone that started me on my headphone journey. I think the sign of a classic headphone is when you have seen a number of people who have sold the 650 only to later repurchase it.

[@PassionforSound]

That's so true about the repurchasing of these. They're on my list to re-buy at some point

[@dagohoyting2417]

What amp /dac did you use to power the hd 560s?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Dagohoy, I use lots of amps and DACs in my testing. For the HD560S I probably used TT2, Burson Soloist (amp), Schiit Bifrost 2 (DAC), Burson Composer (DAC), Elekit TU-8200R (amp), Singxer SA-1 (amp) and Bottlehead Mainline (amp)

[@BailCas]

Are these made in China or made in Romania?

[@PassionforSound]

It's assembled in China with the drivers made in Ireland

[@yttean98]

Super Quick Review: Built-Cheap and Flimsy but will last, Sound: Balance sound compared to HD599, good clarity and clean sound, those who are fussy, may need some equalization. Need external amp.: Not efficient and those who fussy ext. amp. is required. Many people are staying away from Bulky headphones using wired and/or mobile earbuds instead. As the latter are used extensively the sales of overhead headphones in the future will drop off.

[@PassionforSound]

True enough on most counts. I'm not so sure that wired headphone sales will drop off that dramatically. I think the majority of the decline has likely already occurred with wired cans being an audiophile (or specific purpose) purchase only these days

[@yttean98]

@@PassionforSound the sound quality of wired earbuds catching up? Most users are selling their bulky headphones and opting for wired or BT earbuds, sacrificing a drop in sound quality.

[@PassionforSound]

I agree that many people are choosing wireless in many situations (I'm one of them), but there's still a significant gulf between wireless earbuds and headphones and a quality set of wired headphones from a good desktop setup. I think the audiophile market will be just fine, but I do agree that the wireless market will continue to grow at a faster rate

[@yttean98]

@@PassionforSound Noted.

[@albertjurcisin8944]

Please, do not whisper. The video has got an atmosphere of a quiet talk when one does not want to wake up a child sleeping in the next room :-) It is unnecessary disturbing. The content is otherwise highly valuable. Thanks

[@PassionforSound]

That's actually exactly what was going on and I had no choice at the time if I was going to continue to make videos. I'd love the channel to make enough money to support the family, but for now (and the foreseeable future) I need to fit recording in around my day job. Thankfully, our little one is older now and I don't have as many restrictions on recording times, but it was what it was. 🙂

[@deadline7610]

Nicely done. I returned my unit. If using with a phone the included cable/ 3.5 extra - way too long and gets clunkier with the 3.5 add on. My Senn 58x at a cheaper price doesn't feel this cheeeep. 560S were more comfy. I enjoyed the sound with 50% of my music. Very harsh (piercing) sounding with high notes on an electric guitar - Is that what they call sibilance ? Thanks

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Bruce, I agree that they're not ideal for mobile/portable use. They're really designed as a desktop reference headphone and that's also why they're very unforgiving at times. Not sure if what you were hearing was sibilance or just overly dry/bright treble. It's a shame that the reviews and marketing of these don't make it more clear that these are not designed for a fun and enjoyable listening experience. They're designed to reveal the neutral sound of a mix which is great for a producer / recording engineer, but not so much fun for general consumers.