Are Women On Anabolic Steroids Too?

[@DutchDeutschlander]

Simple answer - YES - I’ve been exercising and weight training for nearly 40 years, always naturally, no trt, most I’ve done is creatine, protein, etc. These women are more jacked than I’ve ever been, even in my best shape at 5’8”, 175lbs and 8% body fat. Cross fit, Hollywood stars, influencers, general gym meatheads, etc. - ALL JUICING, I challenge anyone to find ANY truly clean athlete these days, there’s too much money involved in the whole system and the temptation of reward is far greater than the short term risks.

[@teentake-jm9tg]

Thanks 💐 😊 🫂

[@A861967]

It will be interesting to see these women 10-30 years later and understand what has happened to them and how their health is affected by all these drugs.

[@anatta467]

they always end up looking like Mikey Rourke in The Wrestler. The lifestyle is so terrible for them

[@A861967]

@@anatta467 your so right I have seen that movie.

[@chrisbfreelance]

And their clit looks like it had a fight with a hornet.

[@hhiippiittyy]

Some of them might be ok, the more extreme ones will age like hyenas.

[@loolfactorie]

Same as anyone else in their 40s, 50s and 60s; missing their youthful days and looking in the mirror and feeling like they ruined their bodies, whether with drugs, steroids, alcohol or or sedentary lives with poor diets.

[@DennisNowland]

She should've said to Thurston, tell me what you are on and I will tell you what I'm on. I cannot stand the man he's a total narcissist. But then I again I suppose that goes with the territory. You can dress it up how you like, but it's a shit industry full of lies and false promises.

[@boxingjerapah]

Mike interviewing her is the height of irony. Dude is clearly juicing.

[@oldershikari828]

He was probs taking notes..

[@doyourownresearch7297]

why is it ironic?

[@damo8344]

bros weak as man diffs not on any gear rn

[@Bobsan2023]

⁠@@doyourownresearch7297I think because she’s being transparent and he’s not. (Although if he’s admitted his use then I’ve missed it).

[@shaunfisher9292]

Whatever it takes, even if your female.

[@Vayanovic]

99% of influencers and celebrities are on steroids

[@DarkAbyss9]

Don't forget professional athletes to

[@shaunfisher9292]

In a nutshell yes.

[@hansblitz7770]

In anything fitness related, probably about 70%-85%. There's some celebrities that are fat comedians, some influencers that are not in any kind of fitness subculture.

[@shannepatrickhodgsoncuthbe9322]

That's why most of them at their mid 30's or early 40's have heart of a 90's years old person

[@aajohnsoutube]

I’m going with 98% and 65-75% for pro athletes (for decades).

[@chicoloco7108]

The plead the 5th comment and the questioning of his sexuality look was pure gold!

[@hilary.teanti]

Advanced bodybuilders (including women) on the 'juice' ?! . . . I'm shocked, I tell you I am shocked to my very core. Who would ever have thought that ?!

[@Robbo_547]

Personally I feel a bit sorry for amateurs who do something fundamentally healthy and positive for their wellbeing, and then undo so much of that with roids - purely to paper over the cracks in their self confidence. Doing you 100% and ignoring everyone else is a path to a far happier life imo

[@timmat8029]

At that point it's probably more than cracks in self confidence, it's a full blown mental health disorder (body dysmorphia) that should be addressed in therapy.

[@hanskazan7403]

who cares we all gonna die some day i know people who never smoked or used drugs and did everything right and died before 30

[@ordelipyorinen8235]

Drugs can make you happy too, people are different.

[@K4R3N]

I think this but then I also think how the food engineering industry from the 80s-today has screwed up my body. I didn't know what was going into my body. I'm super careful now but as an older guy I wish I could go back and undo some of the damage from my younger years and these roids could help me get there. Now I have kids and I'm giving them clean whole foods, high protein and teaching them about macros and (the ills of) food science engineering.

[@mpclepto182]

@@ordelipyorinen8235 There's more to life than happiness

[@Barbarian75]

Completely agree. It should be transparency about both gains and negatives. This should help to understand whether the goal justifies means.

[@SteveBOWTELL-f4p]

0:08 Been training about 43 years had an ok body back in the day.Many people said to me you’re be great if you took gear.Depends what your mindset is,l was happy winning a plastic cup that was enough for me

[@24567442]

Fair play to you James telling it as it is.

[@shaunfisher9292]

Get back on it James, ya looking to normal.

[@24567442]

The man has admitted when he used gear and dont think he has a physique synonymous with steroid abuse at this time

[@brianhickey5949]

Thanks for pointing out the downside of being in competition form (extremely low body fat and ED for example). The only point I would add is that many of the bodybuilders I competed with have passed away from heart issues. We should be judicious in our use of anabolic steroids.

[@kittenluvzu]

naw, the more the better. people who take steroids know how to take care of their bodies more than anyone else. Isn't that what james smith said?

[@jsg9575]

I've been training since before crossfit came along. It would be rare would see a women that looked as jacked as many do now in person. When crossfit came there would be one or two at these gyms that were clearly stand outs i.e huge traps/back/delts, always would compete/be gym owners. Now in the bodybuilding space I'd say about 5 years ago I started seeing a similar physique of gen pop females in more commercial gyms where as you would never before unless they were the girlfriend of one of the big guy bodybuilders.

[@kevinmckeon2543]

accurate

[@TheMightyMidget]

“What about Mike Thurston he’s your mate ent he?” “Plead the fifth” 😂 An Englishman in Australia appealing w American Law

[@jamiebyrne8570]

Idiotic comment.

[@jacklauren9359]

He ain’t dogging on his mate. That’s how it works. A bit of a hypocrite right 😂there

[@requiem-ph5xx]

@@jacklauren9359 he probably beleives mike but knows his audience will clown him for it so itss a lose lose for him

[@chicoloco7108]

@@requiem-ph5xx no, he's pleading the 5th because he knows he makes more money if he overall looks better and he would be stupid not to supplement testosterone.

[@jamaalq2394]

@@jacklauren9359 Its called reading between the injection sites

[@CaptainValian]

James speaking the truth. I was built big and found it easy to gain muscle but at 54 I personally want to lose weight. 116kg 5'11 and too fat for my liking but with rugby knees I find that walking is what I am at plus body weight exercise. I have to get on it.

[@khinlatt5781]

Mike spill the beans! !

[@ivanjednobiegowiec7656]

Legalize and regulate it all. That will put more money into development and research and loads of good things might stem from it. And should minimize probability of people taking dodgy stuff in secrecy that will cause them harm very quickly.

[@kittenluvzu]

We should also legalize and regulate methamphetamines. These drugs are perfectly healthy to take if you know what you're doing.

[@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501]

In the UK it's legal to use them but not to sell them. Some drugs such as tren were legally produced for animal usage but are illegal for animal use across Europe now. You can't legalise dangerous drugs. There might be safer ways of making the body grow muscle without steroids. There is some current research around this. Anavar is a prescribed drug for burns patients but only in small doses. Testosterone is safe in small doses for replacement purposes or for transitioners. However, any addition T will affect the pituitary gland and then the testicles' ability to produce natural testosterone. I take TRT (40mg a day) because my body was no longer producing sufficient Testosterone. The benefits are there but it's nothing like taking huge doses. 😊

[@janettejanners7714]

I weight train and have boxed competitively, I’ve never taken steroids as I’ve got a minor heart problem, although I’ve been offered them many times, I’ve seen the long term damage they can cause, each to their own, but remember anything artificial that’s going to cause mass gains is likely to bring you health problems later on down the line

[@LetMeEatDem]

As you age you are most likely going to have health issues down the line. So what’s your point?

[@HeathE1]

@@LetMeEatDem Its the risk your wiling to take realistically. Fucking with your hormones young will cause the issues that come with age later on will be more severe. Unless your competition no point.

[@allhailthelegs]

The difference is 50 vs 80@@LetMeEatDem

[@rocksmo3384]

@DTB2397 The likelihood and severity of health issues is vastly increased by PED use. That her point.

[@janettejanners7714]

@@rocksmo3384 thank you 🙏

[@makingwaves1239]

Short answer; Yes, they do, but they have other considerations than men to think about.

[@coldestbeer]

Like having children

[@ordelipyorinen8235]

@@coldestbeer Men have children too

[@makingwaves1239]

@@coldestbeer : That is a factor for both men and women. But women would usually prefer to tone down the masculine effects of steroids, while still gaining strength and muscle mass. A few female bodybuilders don't care though ... and looks more like drag queens.

[@feltwedge]

Great video and spot on.

[@smshing_lee]

Like your viewpoints, keep it up

[@aka91180]

James, any way you can show us what a realistic expectation of a fit natty body looks like like? As our expectations have been messed up, what does the normal natty man or woman look ? That would be an interesting episode

[@kittenluvzu]

You're close to asking the right question, but not quite there. Once you get there, everything becomes transparent.

[@neilcowleyUK]

Wise words as always. Been following you for about a year and out of the limited social media I listen to (cos most is just full of shit) I find your posts a honest account of the real world. 👊

[@yastech7183]

😂😂 I was thinking "what's he saying about mike" all the way through

[@harinivasanc9490]

bro, I think Mike knows that his audience is aware of it. But mate won't admit that !! 🤣

[@shaunfisher9292]

Just like kali there will come a day of reckoning.

[@mrscreamer379]

My issue with steroids is other men using them against me. I don't want the side effects and I don't want the long term health problems associated. But if I do triathlon, I'm up against amateurs who are juiced to the gills and now I don't qualify. Or worse if I play rugby, I'm a very fit 12 stone and I'm going to be smashed by a 17 stone opposing winger. The result is I can't play at any level, because at all levels I will be injured/eliminated by idiots juicing. And those same juicers are liars. They will never admit to taking so we could have a clean league. They'd infiltrate it. Juicers ruin sport for everyone else. They are dishonest and selfish. That's why they are loathed by everyone else.

[@Jez4prez1]

wingers in rugby don't need roids, they just need to be pacific islander, they have natural roid genes to begin with.

[@Seneca_creek]

Would not want my children within 10 miles of a gym, with how normal it has become using steroids, and how the social media is both promoting and normalizing the use. Clean training, and normal healthy eating before size and looks.

[@search4orlife]

Well produced video, thanks.

[@K4R3N]

What's a "reputable source" for roids? Asking for friend.

[@AussieGem]

Ignorance makes money. So many influencers selling a 12 week transformation program, but not sharing how much they're not eating or the reality of a cutting phase for a photoshoot etc. There are a LOT of women in their 60s now on Insta with 6-packs and somehow we feel like there's still that hope that it's all natural but...I feel like optimism is now wilful ignorance unfortunately - it's so confusing 😅

[@scottcameron5640]

Almost everything stated herein is pure fact, with the exception of most bodybuilders prioritizing cardio-vascular health. Anabolic steroids are are known to increase risk of various types of cardio-vascular disease.

[@ST-online]

Always been curious to try steroids even more tempted recently but it’s not worth the health issues

[@stinkletoes8285]

Some people are hesitent admitting because it can diminish peoples perception of how hard they still need to work to obtain what they have accomplished.

[@BludINFAMOUS]

Matter of preference i guess. I like muscular looking women as long as they dont look huge and super built like He-Man from Masters of the Universe.

[@chrisfisher4503]

Vladislav has flat out admitted she juices. Good on her for honesty.

[@cannibalcheese]

Absolutely rouded out of her mind

[@VicMorrowind]

I sure as hell HOPE SO!!!!!! And its their bodies. None of our damn business.

[@Linux4theMac]

This is what I am talking about…content excellence!!!❤

[@dixxygg]

you should have 5 mil subs. so much realness

[@matthewnicholas6365]

Why wouldn't they be?

[@riccarrasquilla379]

thanks for the video

[@klausm.3035]

Great take on this issue

[@PaulRutherford]

Hi Guys I'm a 5ft 6 53 year old Lifetime NATTY Powerlifter with appalling Genetics! I have been training since I was 17yrs old. My Best lifts are 462lbs- 320lbs -485lbs single ply @148lbs I know these aren't very impressive numbers , And i'd be laughed off the platform in a major Powerlifting meet, but I enjoy competing with myself, and am proud to be clean!

[@JeffBourke]

I wish more people were just honest about it instead of being fake.

[@HorseyWorsey]

"Sport performance and Aestethics"? Its called Money and Status.

[@billfromgermany]

Great Common Sense. Also worth considering how the PED scene has changed in my lifetime. I grew up in the golden age (ok, a golden age) of Arnie and co. He‘s a couple of years younger than me. Still looks better, too, although I‘m working on it. The comparison of the variety and quantity of PED‘s used then and now is enormous, with a consequent increase in the health risks. And in my opinion, the „improvement“ in physiques doesn‘t match. Any of the great bodybuilders of the 60‘s to 80‘s look far better than the shredded mass monsters of today. Many of them look during competition as if they are a heartbeat away from collapse.

[@spikem6039]

Hey James, you have the same voice as Chris Eubank Jr

[@psychologixselfmastery]

Nice video! One other consideration I feel outside of drugs is simply that on platforms such as KZbin which has over 1 billion viewers, there will be natural people who are way stronger and bigger than most people, even people who are on steroids. Naturally, their videos get watched more and it then appears in our feed that everyone is better than us. Every influencer on KZbin appears to be deadlifting 500lbs, how realistic is that as an expectation for most people? Hell, I can find 70-year-old guys deadlifting 500lbs and 75-year-old grannies who took up weight training 2 years ago deadlifting 225lb! KZbin and other such platforms show the best in the world and when we compare ourselves of course we will be disheartened. The only thingis to realize is that out of millions and millions of weight traniers, powerflifters, strong men and body builders the best will dominate in the video view stakes and we should not compare ourselves to them.

[@stevenhudson6843]

Im 18% bodyfat n natty. I look saweet and im healthy. My mate who juiced is dead. Its your choice ❤

[@MarufoVega]

I think SARMS is the thing people are doing but am personally clueless about the popular options. Synthetic Androgen Receptor Modulators or something like that. Fast and effective with a perception of safe relative at least to old fashion steroids.

[@jonathanroy5924]

…did Mike tell you this perspective off camera?

[@MrInsanitytube]

Very insightful. Most athletes doing such as a profession, but taking every consideration and risk with extreme precaution and blood work and transparency. Ontop of living extremely healthy adequate sleep and good diet so forth... Risk vs Reward must be gauged and if so therapy and precautions taken. I think omes status and pride should be second to transparency, however when funds and sponsors are at stake; these become capricious situations.

[@jahigains9201]

What rock would you have to be sleeping under to not know the answer is "YES", in all caps

[@Lucas-gm3bv]

The girl in the thumbnail (Vladislava) is superb.

[@nerdyali4154]

The other thing he forgot to mention about bodybuilders health is their tendency to keel over with terminal deadness quite young.

[@christopherdedeck]

She looks AMAZING!

[@denniswalker9219]

Well presented!

[@SeniorGymBro-Tom]

Duh! YES they are!

[@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953]

One question does not remain. Of course they are. In the bodybuilding world it’s been evident since the 1980s.

[@quatie]

Yes they're

[@williamboquist4090]

The guy in the lower left at 2:30 is really cut, but he lost a lot of mass to get there.

[@thefatlosscode365]

The irony. Big Mike asking about her cycle. I thought maybe, just maybe he'd come clean, but nope. :)

[@glbernini0]

Look at the top 20 in any Crossfit games!

[@nickhenderson6246]

We don’t live in a honest world

[@covingtoncreek]

Good but the two choices aren't being on gear and living "healthy" otherwise vs. being obese and not exercising. There is a healthy version where you eat, sleep, exercise well and try to be the best version of yourself for the long-term. Naturally. Healthy.

[@meskinYT]

My dad was heavy into fitness growing up. This was the era of Shwarzenegger, Platz, Oliva, Ferrigno, Weider... I look back at those guys and that era, and they were all absolutely jacked. I've always wondered if they were juicing back then? Is it even humanly possible to get that big without any kind of steroid? What do y'all think?

[@Def2ual]

I could rant so hard about transparency.. X prompting Y product etc... /points at 99% of Gym shark models..

[@M1K3Y80Y]

Where do you get your punch dummy from? I want one?! But want a good quality one.

[@b18crlxi]

Old mate mike should be honest too 👀

[@torbear146]

Yes they do !!!!

[@ahnehtub2]

I'm wondering what is Helmut Strebl on....

[@luisdotespinal]

Answer: Yes. Also, answer: Not our bizness + Who cares? Live and let live.

[@brianhays1797]

Vladisava is actually very open on her steroid use.

[@mariaeriksson953]

What about crossfitters?

[@richardmartinez1434]

Anyone that says that they are all natural and do not look natural are full of crap! I can bench press 500 Lb, curl 100 lb each hand and I don't look anything like any of those chicks!!!

[@OVERSKULL87]

Most replayed on this vid is hilarious 😅

[@KT-zx9jr]

You know they are.....cant escape biological boundaries.....

[@9mwood]

How many superheroes are on gear?

[@nullgeodesic9423]

The idea that steroids are “cutting corners” is ludicrous. If anything taking them is harder. You still have all the pain of training, only more of it because you recover faster and lift heavier, but along with it, you feel like shit 24/7 and have tons of side effects. You’re literally dying for the gains.

[@donsab-xz4so]

Bodybuilders live healthy lives? Really? Dehydrating yourself is healthy? Straining your body and taking myriad drugs for solely aesthetic reasons is healthy?

[@iamatlantis1]

Yes.

[@Jolly-Green-Steve]

You want to get big and diesel while staying drug free? The best method is to train once every 5-6 days full body and train muscle/muscle group until it feels beat up how ever many sets or reps that takes with moderate/to moderately heavy weight. Then eat mostly natural foods and rest a lot in between workouts. In 2 years you will have a solid foundation/physique.... in 4-5 years you will be super diesel/strong.

[@cornekoekemoer157]

This is the result of egg whites, chicken breast white rice, prune juice, determination, focus and shear F'n will......

[@Ale55andr082]

yes, they are

[@jeremyrider8646]

Errmm, not sure about the music!!

[@Roolenstein]

Steroids seem a better prospect for women because they won't suffer from suppression as much as men will. Suppression and permanent dependence on doctors and pharmacy is a deal-breaker.

[@djsubliminalreeve]

getting big natty is possible I got to 225lbs natty at 6ft2 about 14% bodyfat and 197lbs on the cut 7% body fat which is very impressive as I was bigger and leaner than a lot of guys on steroids at my gym. the difference was i did everything right from training, diet, supplements, sleep, epsom baths and really listening to my body. most people wouldnthinkninwas on steroids but it's possible just some people dont have the genetics or the hard work and dedication to the extreme.

[@McClane4Ever.]

That is big as hell for a natural but compared to guys on juice that's small. No offense to you, that's incredible but going by modern standards that's small. Big, lean, natural. Pick 2.

[@coldhater]

if you dont notice they are not natty you have a problem

[@carfran53]

The ones at the professional level? Of course But that does not diminish in any way the discipline, dedication and effort that these women have to go through to achieve those extraordinary physiques and strength.

[@embersandash]

Is your mate @olinaomega on gear?

[@spec24]

Yes. There, saved everyone 4 minutes and 35 seconds of their lives.

[@landotucker]

Melinda Lindmark makes me scaroused.

[@nvonliph]

@ 2:45 yeah, those bodybuilders sleep a lot, work out, eat right... ...and die before 60. Real healthy, I'm sure.

[@markoniksic3630]

I love Mike, you cant expect him to "come out" and say he is juicing same as the Rock cant. Just too much money to be lost by doing so, would be stupid.

[@josephperkins4857]

yes yes what you said about them living quite a healthy life is a load of crock seeing as they are dying like flyes

[@jonevansauthor]

Alan Richson (Reacher) has been transparent about getting on testosterone therapy and how much easier that made training for season 2 than it was for season 1. There's two great interviews with him on Michael Rosenbaum's show. I have no issue with people using testosterone or steroids safely, preferably with a doctor. Nor am I bothered by people using ibuprofen when they have injuries and headaches. What bothers me more is people who have a headache and refuse to try ibuprofen or paracetamol, because they don't like taking drugs. That's infuriating. They'll probably also tell you they've been drinking coffee so they can't be dehydrated and don't need a proper drink of water.

[@timmat8029]

Habitual caffeine intake is not dehydrating though. But I get your point.

[@Sharpe05]

Are u that gullible. He is not just on TRT

[@jimxvx332]

@@Sharpe05 Indeed. 'Just a little TRT' is the new 'I'm natty bro'.

[@johnbmw550i]

In one word YES.

[@joepipito7431]

Everybody on dat 💩 💩 💩

[@nubin0807]

Taking steroids to make them a better athlete or for the career (actors etc) is fine. What isn't fine is juiced up PTs or influencers selling programmes to 'be like them'

[@jankowalski6691]

Short answer - yes. Don't need to watch the video.

[@moiPablo]

Just going to check out Vladislava Galagan ( I AM NOT GAY)!