Are YOU Buying TOO MUCH WARHAMMER?!

[@beamer2267]

Love the video dave! Greggs will never be the same again. Im working my way through my necron army pretty consistently, I do have a mini pipe of shame infront of me, but nothing too intimidating! Appreciate the advice!

[@MSPaints]

Pile of previously well intentioned purchases is a term I hope to get over in the future. No shame in surrounding yourself with stuff you love. A pile of shame should be a term reserved for laundry and dirty plates! Big love, enjoy your hobbying!

[@beamer2267]

@@MSPaints oh… in that case I have a HUGE PILE of laundry shame hahaha!

[@MSPaints]

@@beamer2267 damn. That didn’t work to reassure you like I hoped it would!

[@tuvaaq]

@@MSPaints the telegram scammers are spamming your channel mate. Might want to warn your viewers in a future vid as some people do get suckered in by these fake giveaways.

[@tuvaaq]

@@GerryG91100 they tell you, you've won a prize but insist on payment for the shipping costs up front and some fall for it.

[@challums8250]

Definitely had an extended patch where the hobby became a habit that was more about the buying than any of the rest of it. Finding my way back to enjoyment of building, painting and playing lately though.

[@MSPaints]

Glad you found your way back to the zen zone!

[@Mikey__R]

Yeah, same here. For a while, my hobby was tracking down and buying New On Sprue models off of eBay. The endorphin spike of winning a Sunday evening auction became quite an addiction. I've still got most of those sprues, packed up in moving boxes. Turns out no one else wanted to buy them off me, so now I'm stuck with them.

[@Mikey__R]

Turns out a bargain still costs money.

[@DRjexmoJDM]

Feel ya bro I ended up just buying one blister (single model) pack a fortnight and even then I'm behind haha

[@sasserine]

One strategy I've decided on, to avoid or reduce the pile of shame, is to move toward figure-agnostic games. That allows you to use a smaller collection of figures, in multiple games. It also allows you to jump straight into a new game, without the delay that often kills the momentum.

[@drewbakka5265]

Buy a model on aestetics Rules change, a great sculpt will look good on your shelf forever

[@dustinasche]

I hobbied years ago in my teens and 20's and at the time I couldn't financially afford to get too deep into the hobby, so it was rarely an issue. I recently jumped back into the hobby after an extended hiatus and definitely went a bit too all in, overestimating my free time and energy, and now have a closet filled with boxes of unpainted minis for 3-4 armies, and maybe 1k points actually fully painted.

[@marcjohnson5991]

I bought space rangers from Virgin Megatore in Sheffield back when they had random piles of miniatures inc. Battletech and very old Aliens

[@MSPaints]

Barely remember that! Must be where my dad got them from back in the day.

[@marcjohnson5991]

@@MSPaints They were from a time when GW and Beatties were all I knew about the hobby. Probably mid 90s. In the Sheffield store, it was downstairs (which had a kinda industrial aesthetic), hidden round the corner from the metal. Which pretty much explains my teen years.

[@Tochir0]

We need more messages like this. F- the ‘new thing’. Slow and steady is the way to go. I’m slowly chipping away at the Dominion box set for $99.

[@graymansolutions6195]

You need to see the guy Angry Badger Minis first video...just...whoa. He has been collecting for years, just because, not meta chasing.

[@MunitionsDudTester]

I got into warhammer when I was about 14 years old or so. I read a couple omnibus when I was in high-school and saw some good ol' Duncan painting videos but never had the money to get into it. Went straight into the military out of high-school and never had the space to paint or keep models. Fast forward to the present day minus a couple years and you can imagine my "pent-up hobby rage". Pretty sure I spent close to $1,000 within the first month (mostly on paint and tools/supplies). I now have a small'ish pile of shame and it used to bug me a lot because I watched a lot of videos before making purchases and swore to "never be that guy". After revisiting the thought it doesn't bother me anymore that I have a bunch of random models and no proper army to show for it. I bought the models I did because I thought they were rad and I really enjoy the assembly and painting process. It is like therapy in a way. Also, my small pile of shame helps reign me in on purchases because I know I have 5 or so boxes of models that still need to be painted so I don't feel a "need" on anything other than something I've already been looking forward to.

[@settratheimperishable7800]

Okay so here is my “pile of shame” story: So when I first got into the hobby I was thrilled to just play the game and start being creative in a format that I’m actually pretty decent at. So the first thing I did was buy an entire slaves to darkness starter set and I built them all and primed them all but when I actually looked at it I never painted them. (I still have them actually and that was about 2 years ago.) Then I got a Tau start collecting box and guess what never actually finished it. THEN I got an imperial knight that I thankfully still have but it isn’t completely built yet. THEN I got a start collecting box of Necrons that guess what I never finished. I ended up selling pretty much all of the Warhammer I owned bar the slaves to darkness and the knight but I realized that I definitely needed to just stop buying any Warhammer until I 100% knew I was not gonna sell it and waste my money. So good tip: please just don’t waste away all your money.

[@TomMullins]

We all need a mate who will bring you back a sausage roll

[@MSPaints]

Asked for un sausage roll, received dos sausage rolls. That’s a true friend!

[@walstafa]

I'm definitely feeling the Pile of Shame at the moment. I'm a fast painter but I need to be in the mood and I haven't always been feeling it at the moment.

[@noops9220]

I’ve found selling discarded projects even at a loss helped clear up my hobby

[@MSPaints]

That’s a good way of doing it! Something I’ll touch on in a later video I think. Thanks for the reminder!

[@weatherthis8062]

Some great advice mate, I recently made the discovery myself that I was just buying stuff because I thought that will be really cool to build one day. Now I have a cupboard full and still the same small amount of time I get every week to hobby, If I don't buy any more I should be done by 2050 😂.

[@undeadmusky]

I've been selling tons of my POS on Ebay lately and even dipped into some of my painted stuff. My hobby space had become a beacon of misery to me as opposed to a source of joy and inspiration. Now that I'm getting closer to manageable I'm trying to buy on pace with my paint production (and failing gloriously cue the cycle).

[@theshizzen3988]

A great danger of overbuying for me is when I find something really cool, like a film, a show or a book and think, that would be a cool miniature project. I just made a list of all projects I want to do. Oh boy. I do have to up my output if I want to get it done before I'm 80 😂 moving all boxes of plastic crack to the basement helped with the mental load of it. I have now only the stuff I currently working on in my hobby space. Also sometimes I think of some kits and boxes just as kitbashing potential and I'm fine with never actually building it. But overbuying is defenitley an issue in our hobby.😅

[@GeneJordan]

This is a great philosophical topic for the hobbyist. Sometime within the last few years, I decided to start calling my collection of unpainted models my "Pile of Opportunities". This change has been vital for my mental health and inspiration for painting more models that I already own, more often than not. This mental process allows me to enjoy the experience and the journey of the hobby instead of seeing it as a chore that needs to be completed. It's a reward and escape for getting my work and chores done each day. I've been involved in this hobby since 1990 and turned 53 earlier this year. I have learned where to draw the line at which games I will play and which factions I'll play in them. This limits the models I'll buy quite a bit. Occasionally, I have purchased a model (or a set) just because I want to paint it, especially now that I have an airbrush. I've already had to get creative about where to store the unpainted and painted models for display, safekeeping, or transporting. If I don't have every model I've purchased over the years painted by the time I leave this earth, I've left instructions in my will for my family members to sell the unpainted models through a local FLGS and donate the proceeds to a favorite charity (minus a cut and first dibs for the store owner for sorting the inventory out). I've also left instructions to donate the painted models, paint sets, brushes, terrain, materials, & whatever models don't sell to a local private high school gaming club. Once that process was in place, I became more free to buy whatever set or model I want, within reason, while I'm still breathing, sharing, teaching, creating, painting, and kicking dirt in this life.

[@LordMagiru]

My biggest hobby regret was allowing myself to get roped into playing a CCG. That was a lot of cash that could have been a pile of old models to go with my other pile of even older models because I still have almost everything I bought as a teenager and young adult.

[@atomicjesus69]

7:00 This false scarcity that started with Indomitus and the Sisters box is what pushed me out of the hobby for over a year. If I had to get up hours early before work to join in the F5 war to *maybe* get their product then they weren't getting my business. The benefit to coming back recently is I've sorted all of my pile of shame and am slowly painting things since the original hype I had has faded

[@deansalmon1773]

Strange I thought I was the winner. Looks like a scam to me

[@saltfreegamer]

Awesome vid. Tony's ad spots are the best, the only SS ads I watch. The thing that helped reel in my hobby acquisition rate was 3rd party rules. When the folks selling you the rules are not the same folks selling you the minis, a lot of the false urgency goes away.

[@patrickt2746]

Go easy on those classic Space Ranger models! I got a box of those when I was a wee lad to try to learn to paint. And now my 7yo daughter practices painting on the ones I still have laying around. 😂

[@gabrielolsson2033]

Short, simple and quick answer to the topic: YES.

[@tommymclaughlin-artist]

I'm mainly just a spectator in "the hobby" so I don't really buy models and stuff, but I can relate because I buy WAY more art supplies than I have time to use them.

[@jipowap]

2-6k points in 8 different armies... sitting back at my parents garage attic. Only Tau tabletop ready as I got 90% off eBay in various states of construction. It's not how much you save, it's how much you spend, and life circumstances can change your available time drastically. I expect to see my legions of shame in ten years at best.

[@toogreytogame]

Yes. Yes. And yes again. My worst habit is FOMO for savings. Got all the Nighthaunt from Mortal Realms and 2 x craft worlds start collecting boxes just in case I want to start those armies in future and buying it now will "save me money" in the long run. I do get my Smaug on sitting and looking at the pile.

[@samcross3400]

Very relatable, helpful, sage advice. Sell things you cannot or will not use. If you’re going to invest in something make sure your heart is really in it, I wanted all the 2nd edition metal genestealer cult sculpts 20yrs ago, I want them now, and I have them, although they haven’t yet been painted, one day the ancient prophecy of my boyhood will be fulfilled.

[@nicholashurst780]

An old gamer's recommendation to newer players: start a gaming club (not necessarily a formal one like y'all have in the UK and Europe, just a group with a regularly scheduled gameday) that plays a previous edition of the game. Doesn't matter if you're playing 40K 2e or 9e, as long as it is a discontinued edition. You don't have to worry about the meta changing every three months if your last gamebook was published during the Bush administration.

[@ianlolsatyou]

found your channel through your first gunpla build! been bingeing your content too. Any thoughts on more gunpla stuff in the future?

[@MSPaints]

Certainly do mate! Got plenty more kits and secured a perfect grade too! Just gotta switch back to Warhammer for the next few videos to get some numbers back up!

[@NewSquallor]

Wanted to start Warhammer Fantasy with High Elves back in the day. Got a huge box of them to get started. Realized this was going to be a very long slog. Set them aside, never got to them. They're somewhere. But sure glad I got all these LotR minis on clearance when my local store decided they wanted to finally clear them out. Ho ho! Loving this channel. Cheers.

[@coeffinger1]

Dude. Spot on video. I can’t play their games anymore. Just can’t keep up with the rules changes. They ruined my happy place. So I now play Legion, Boltaction, Lord of the Rings SBG. One Page Rules Grim Dark Future is a great option to 40k. Been collecting minis and WARHAMMER stuff since the late 80’s. They first turned me off when they killed Fantasy. I just repurposed most of my GW stuff for other games. 🤙🏼😎

[@Wulfseal]

Honest talk going on here brother. I really like the new kill team boxes so they got me with Shadow Vault recently, still have not painted all the terrain from the prior set yet. Before that I had a clear out and gifted most of my 40k stuff to friends. It was full armies worth of stuff I was just having fun buying for discount or second hand. Lesson, cheaper is not a saving if you never use the stuff.

[@Hurricanelive]

I'm blessed I only have a small grey tide and 2 painted armies. I love building though so if I build a Cadian army box I can just hit it with primer and resell it for practically the same cost, buy something else, chill and build while watching YT, radio, repeat. And I can paint maybe a tank or maybe some AoS addition at my leisure. I literally have not upgraded my SoBs from anything of the second wave, no Vahl, or Saints, or APUS, or CAstanks, nothing. I have not even got Morathi for my DoKs. I have no HQs for any of my Astartes Chapters, or Cadians, or Necrons, or Nighthaunts. GW isn't making anything I want so that saves me a ton of money. I'm 90% of the mind of build it and get rid of it.

[@chillywilly883]

Been very frugal with my adult reintroduction to the hobby. Started with gaslands, Etsy shop selling cars funded branching out to other games. Kept purchases to affordable starter sets or eBay.

[@CHUBBS182]

My pile of shame is currently the thing bringing me joy. I fell out of the hobby when I was about 14-15 and where ever I’ve gone in life, I’ve had to carrying around this collection of models I’ve had since I was a child. At points I never had any intention of picking it back up but was too scared of selling my models. They retained their sentimental value the entire time. The pandemic like it did for many, gifted me free time I usually wouldn’t have and over the last few years, especially with the rise of war gaming content on KZbin, it’s been a growing interest in me so when that free time became available, I picked up the hobby again and I’m loving it. I’m now 31, the stuff I’m painting isn’t a complete mess (which is partly why I gave up as a kid), and I’m slowly getting through all this sixth edition WH and even bits and bobs that my dad and uncle handed down from the early 90’s. I’m trying to hold myself to the challenge of getting through as much of what I already have before I buy anything new. The only new stuff I’ve bought is a pack of GW skulls! I am very tempted however to start a nurgle army, so maybe this is where buying too much begins for me haha

[@wirrawaywonderer6011]

The prevalence of this subject on places like KZbin and Reddit forces me to acknowledge the majority of warhamner fans are finacially irresponsible, highly impressionable and hopelessly unaware lololol.

[@AdeptusRidiculous-2025]

Yur absolutely right about game companies are absolutely making cashcows outta everyone and everything!! Which makes us absolutely asses if we don't stop and wake up. Not all things are good unless they are 100% Completed!!🤣😎

[@KabinMiniatures]

Slow painter + hobby butterfly syndrome + interest in many different games/ranges = big piles of shame...

[@xcumulusx]

great video, my first army was fantasy high elf, 500-600 points .... then i got a cheap high elf army from ebay for 100 € and its was a 5000 point army i was drowning in miniature´s after that i was smart enough getting slower. greetings from austria

[@LeeHobbies]

I sold 10,000 points of 40k (mostly marines) during the pandemic. I realised that it was not possible for me to live long enough to paint them being late 40's (plus, I'm an events photographer in an apocalypse, so... money... capitalism... hard times). Anyway, it was the best thing I ever did, now I'm a painting beast, much more productive and able to get into other stuff, like Bolt Action. The grey plastic was a psychological ball and chain. Cheers for the content as always dude

[@chaoticpainting1507]

My wife asks me all the time, when will it be enough, It wasn't until I actually took a hard look at my pile of shame and realize, i've got a load of shit that still needs painting. I've since built most of what I have, but still have piles and piles of shit that isn't even primed yet. When I first started out, I watched all these youtube channels and thought, I literally have fuck all to paint... fast forward 2 years and now it's the exact opposite. Had there been more videos like this, I wouldn't have as much I don't think. That said, I do still have stuff I need to get, i.e. stuff to flesh out my army... but we'll see as time goes on... I do have the capability to just print what I need as well, digital copies of models are a lot easier to pile up 😎

[@alexwhite2265]

hey MS Paints, I starting a building a 40k nercon army and work out there so much stuff that is built and already painted second hand market is so full stuff and i have lot of friends in games clubs and private listing that can be bought.

[@TheHobbyCorner]

Great video. Everything you've said has passed my thoughts at some point in the hobby. But I won't lie to myself. It's an addiction. And all the things we couldn't buy as kids because of money we can now as adults. Sometimes. You know. Because bills and kids are also expensive 😅

[@quid8031]

you its a good one when your son comes in and scowls at you ''what you laughing at''

[@SSecret_Hugz]

if, i hadn't recently subbed anyway. Hulk master Hogan would have earned a subb off of giggles alone!

[@oskar6661]

It's taken me a while, but I've gotten pretty solid about keeping to 5-6 major projects...and I'm really good about selling off stuff I'm not using. I do notice, amongst my younger gamer buddies that the hobby is now: talking about Warhammer, buying Warhammer, bitching about Warhammer, building Warhammer....but not painting, nor playing Warhammer. 95% of the time is spent talking about it on Facebook groups, or buying and stacking it in closets, etc. I don't do Warhammer anymore, thankfully, but it's very noticeable that just talking about it is now the hobby - not actually pursuing painted armies and playing games (which makes sense, since the rules suck ass, I guess). Meanwhile, I paint several hundred minis a year and play fully painted gorgeous games of many other types and couldn't be happier. Glad to be out of the 40K trap. Now...I'm going to go ship these 40K models I've been selling to fund all my other hobbies. :D

[@elstonation]

I can't tell which part I liked more, the inferior hobbyist or the teddy bear crossed with a garden gnome 🤣. Love the video and I think I have the perfect follow up to this video 😁

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

I’m subscribed to you both, but I don’t keep up with every video- it was a nice surprise to find that you two are mates! Both of you have great channels, and you’re both guys that I admire 👍🏻

[@elstonation]

@@tunguskalumberjack9987 it's one big old happy community 😁

[@rikvah9817]

I just purchased mu first box 2 months after looking into it 😄

[@capnbrunch9612]

Have bought into and sold out of the hobby multiple times. This time the difference has been having a dedicated hobby space. I use some 8 oz plastic cups. 1 night a week i snip out 6 guys, put them in the cups and when i get the urge to build grab a few cups clean off the boys and start gluing. The other big difference is i havent invested heavily in rules. Last time i tried to get into the hobby was 8th 40k and by the time i had my space marines all assembled and primed and ready for some table top action i came to find i neeeded a bunch of faq nonsense an oop white dwarf, a new codex cause the one i had bought a few months before was out of date, and a psychic awakening book I also have a kill team 2021 pile of shame. As i assemble my Black templar army i hope is ready for 10th i take breaks by building some kill team stuff, its not really played in my area but it gives me enough variety from black and white with some ivory tabards.

[@flamingopie]

I've bought, and then later sold at a slight loss, two starter armies without any real attempt at painting/assembling them

[@KelstenGamingUK]

I’ve only just started with warhammer. This month I’ve bought seraphon starter set, league of votann, some death guard, kill team into the darkness and I’m looking at necromunda, too. No real plan to actually play any of it, just buying what I think is cool looking and then learning to paint.

[@alf1712]

I just started this year into warhammer 40k like 3 months ago, I started with the space marines paint box and painted all 3 models, Then I bought the recruit edition and the paints and tools set then some eliminators and incursors and outriders and normal intercesors and a phobos lieutenant and a primaris captain... Damn I haven't even finish the assault intercessor squad from the recruit box xD, I wanted to have just a 500 point army, that's all I wanted T_T, and the funniest thing (and sad) is that I don't have people to play with because I moved to a new country and I don't speak the language good enough yet,

[@ClevelandSteamer0]

I buy a model and paint it, repeat. Having too many models sat waiting in the wings does seem to cripple my enthusiasm.

[@mikee9464]

Dude these are extremely prudent pointa

[@spaceiguana5066]

I recently did a huge purge from my Kings of War and Warhammer backlogs. I don't even play WH anymore, so sold off all of it. For Kings of War, I consolidated to just 2 mega armies (ratkin and Brotherhood but using Bretonnians). Tempted to cut down one of those as well. The Bretonnians would stretch a long way for a hobby budget down the road. I don't even know if I'd get them all painted given the desire to try to freehand and do patterns...

[@TheDigitalThreat]

I really enjoy building models, and its how I fell into the hobby but I dont enjoy the painting. I have nerve issues with my arms so it makes painting extra difficult/somewhat painful and takes 3x longer for me compared to most people. So when I have time to work on models i tend to just build more, usually kits I have yet to work on yet. I dont see my unpainted models as part of a shame pile since i got entertainment from them, but most others would see my 1000 unpainted and 1000 more still on sprue/boxed models and look at me like I'm crazy. By their metrics I am, by mine I'm just well stocked! I did go semi overboard on the backlog of stuff to build but I stopped buying kits and the only new shit I've had coming for a few months now is from the imperium subscription. I have enough models to build to last me years and if worst comes to worst or I need quick cash to recoup from my hobby expenses I'll have well built models to slap on ebay down the road for others who enjoy painting but hate building (or like to save that time) to buy and jump right in on. I'm not playing the games anyway so once a models built, they do nothing for me but sit in storage cases. I only need/want certain centerpiece models, or larger/vehicle type units for display that I am actually willing to suffer through the painting process to complete.

[@madmachanicest9955]

My biggest regret was buying the dark angels stater box form 7 edition only to find out I would need 1500 more points to even play. If I could do it again I would have saved my money or I would have simply gotten a single unite to paint for fun.

[@jmaccsarmiesofArda]

Engineered scarcity reminds me a bit of DLC in games. The outrage when they were going to charge for oblivion horse armour was nuts but now it's just accepted that games will have DLC and loot boxes. Just another crappy bsns practice we now accept and fall for but probably shouldn't.

[@MSPaints]

Oh man. Horse armour. Completely forgot about that until now… wow, haha

[@TomsTabletopBunker]

Interesting topic. As someone who has a channel dedicated to the hobby, had a trade account historically and has probably spent way too much at forgeworld in the past I can relate. Tactic I take now.... Still the same but I'm an expert at hiding it from my Mrs.

[@gouki4u]

I went a little (a lot) overboard when I got into 40K. I collected four full armies (Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Orks, and Eldar) before I realized I would never be able to paint them all, and my plan to have a fieldable army from every faction was bonkers.

[@looselycollected7505]

I wish there was a way to pile on more than one thumbs up on this video. Thank you man.

[@alritchie2162]

Great vid!! Looks like you’re in a mini version of Lendal Cellars!! That would be a great painting location…😂 🍺

[@MSPaints]

Lucked out with this place! Lots of character!

[@ravenna99]

hmmm games nights at the cellars would be awesome

[@clearymc]

You got my LIKE in the first 5 seconds lol

[@TheSmuey]

Well... I have a confession. I don't play Warhammer. I have three boxes, a box of skeletons, a box of nighthaunt models and three of those golden storm thingies. I bought them to practise painting on and I figured I could use them for a game of D&D, because I DO play that. So no, I don't think I am buying too much Warhammer. Now, resin and filament for 3d printing, though, that's a whole different story 😅

[@tuvaaq]

#3 FOMO is real! I'm only into Middle Earth Strategy Battle and with all their limited time "Made To Order" releases you either cough up the dough or wait several years for it to come around again.

[@SimonMoston]

So much FOMO... What can men do against such reckless business practices?

[@tuvaaq]

@@SimonMoston I can't really cast too much shade on GW for this as MESBG is pretty niche and it's probably not good business sense to fill a warehouse with 19 different versions of Gandalf. Still, sucks for those that can't afford to drop 💷on the hobby at short notice.

[@SimonMoston]

@@tuvaaq Well then, I'll cast shade for the both of us. I've been wanting to run a Grand Army of the South legion since the Gondor supplement dropped, and I really wanted some camels. No-one should have to wait 3 years for camels to return to rotation. And yes, I'm broke after last weeks range rotation haha.

[@tuvaaq]

@@SimonMoston when you put it like that I guess it is sh!tty. I don't play, just been collecting Quest of the Ringbearer models and the narrative sculpts that have no impact on the game but yeah I'd be pissed if had to wait on rotation to put together a force for the tabletop or pay scalper prices on eBay.

[@johnmansell7282]

that greggs bit killed me

[@charleswatson2605]

Man it sucks getting out of the hobby when your budget is tight, and then getting back in when you have some disposable income! For the past year I've been spending about $300 on average a month on models & supplies.

[@MSPaints]

That’s quite a bit! But from experience I know there’s folks who drop way more, and they ceeeeeeertainly ain’t even getting them out the box!

[@charleswatson2605]

@@MSPaints I have 5 unbuilt models currently. I completed or will have about 35 models for my ork army thus month. Progress!

[@LakeyWargames]

The inner battle among us all once you cross that line from dipping your toes in to going for a full on swim. Great video as always and some brutal honesty as needed. I think this is a great topic and will always be relevant as long as the hobby exists. A very important message for new comers for sure! :)

[@jonesfigures]

Hey man, you put some respect on SPACE RANGERS! 🤘🤨 I had that box and it was 100% serviceable still have a couple odd weapons/ backpacks that keep turning up in my bits...I'd kill for like 5 of them to proper paint nowadays ...thanks for the memory!

[@Alex-Dissonance]

I actually started about 3-4 months ago, I set myself the limit of only buying 1 box at a time and then buy the next once this is build and painted. Because of this I actually had no pile of shame but a big death guard army so far. Just recently (as in This week) I caught myself buying way too much stuff, so I will hold back now until everything is build and painted.

[@brianhall4182]

This really is the best way to do it. Buy one thing and then don't buy more until you finish the first. FOMO is bull. You can always find stuff you "miss out" on secondhand later on down the line.

[@MonsterPainter]

great video, sensible advice.

[@kindermord]

You are an adequate hobbyist. Many occasions where I seen your work it has been sufficient.

[@kindermord]

@@MSPaints to be fair, you are a better lover than you are a painter.

[@lhiannan02]

I've got a decent pile of potential sat there! I have a lot I want to paint, but fortunately none is GW. I do like to break things up with painting busts as they are a whole different scale and challenge.

[@MSPaints]

Nice! Been thinking of tackling a bust but never have the time to sit and learn them things!

[@olympiangamers7007]

Limited editions/fomo don’t make good economic sense for plastic miniatures, in the same way as metal or resin miniatures because of how the moulds work, metal moulds are cheap to make but break down, whereas plastic moulds are an expensive investment but can churn out thousands of spins though a longer production lifespan.

[@stretch3281]

Scammer M.F.ers have found your channel I'm sad to report. Don't respond on telegram (wtf) to anyone people. I think you might have to employ an antiscammer parrot. 😶

[@MSPaints]

Looks like their account got snuffed! Thanks to everyone who reported!

[@doobie1984]

Great video. I upvoted it pretty quickly, then forgot about it. Then each time you said something awesome, I went back to upvote it again - this happened like 3 times. I think I have short-term memory failure.

[@MSPaints]

You’ll be most welcome here if you do!

[@ThePickleJar]

*nervous glance at pile of Star Wars legion boxes*

[@kiralred_30k]

Hi mate, re-watching some old videos whilst building terrain. Is this the first appearance of Chump change on the channel?

[@MSPaints]

First official appearance is on the gw killing our channels video I think mate!

[@SomeDudeOnYouTube]

Are we talking "too much warhammer" as in "G'Wullu only products" or as is "you buy to much plastic crack"? I can't really figure that out...

[@MSPaints]

mostly everything, but i gotta use dat warhammer word!

[@lootpigeon]

Interesting topic! I’ve found myself in an interesting place with buying things. I got back into the hobby when my partner bought me silver tower as I loved old warhammer quest. Being out of the hobby so long I though, hmm don’t want to mess these models up so I should practice first - well here we are 5 years later and I still haven’t painted that box but I do have other boxes for days. I did start painting some of my purchase up but I’m not going to lie some of it fills me with dread - I love sw legion and went bananas when they where on offer and have 4 core boxes, the running joke being the mould lines in that og core box being horrendous - 3-4 days of mould line removal. Not looking forward to putting those together 😅 I should have gone slower but hey, everyone has a bad day and thinks hmmm that will definitely give me something to do and cheer me up!

[@guywhosonlyplayedyumenikki]

Here with an update from the future, we had a new flgs open in my area and day one they had all of the 40k magic the gathering decks on the shelves. Never let fomo get you!

[@MSPaints]

It’s always false scarcity! Apart from the times it’s real!

[@patrickdickson4671]

So look forward to anything you publish. You should have an HBO channel.

[@christheleper4378]

I often worry about my pile of shame. At one point, I had 4 models unpainted, then I bought indomitus, then I bought more, and more. I don't actually play any tabletop games, I just enjoy the painting, unfortunately, I have arthritis which only gets worse the older I get, and I don't know that I'll finish painting everything I own before I can't any more, yet I still buy more regularly.

[@MSPaints]

That’s interesting, I’m in the same camp and didn’t slow down after a similar diagnosis. We definitely be or have been in the habitual or day brightening buyer category!

[@lukepooler6155]

I only recently started in the warhammer hobby, but I have noticed that it really helps if your buying what you think is personally cool. For example I was gifted a boxes of adeptus mechanicus and I just couldnt bring myself to finish painting them, not because i didn't like the models, but because it felt like a choir to paint them

[@brianhall4182]

Same with me and Necrons. I bought a 40k Recruit box when I started and painted up the Marines lickiy split. They were a lot of fun. Then I moved onto the Necrons and... enjoyed it a lot less. I had to force myself to get through them and wound up going for a rusty, grimy paint scheme because it meant I could get them done quicker. So I rather quickly discovered the Necrons were not for me.

[@honestminis9530]

I just made a video where I reference this video because this is my favourite pile-o-shame video. I would be happy if you could watch it to get the feedback :)

[@MSPaints]

I’ll do that now, thanks mate!

[@user-ko3tv7jl2r]

Personally, my pile is a 'pile of opportunity', it makes me happy knowing I'll paint them at some point (even at times I'm buying things faster than I paint them).

[@user-ko3tv7jl2r]

Mind you, my thing is old-herohammer models or styles of models, not the new thing...

[@GavinCochrane]

I got back into tabletop games when Fallout Wasteland Warfare was released... I was keeping up with all the releases and assembling them as they arrived but never painting them as I didn't know how to paint... I then decided to stop assembling them until I painted at least some of what I had bought. Now I have 25 boxes of unassembled stuff and 2.5 badly painted miniatures 😂

[@MSPaints]

That’s a ruthless statistic haha! At least you got plenty to do over the next few months… years…

[@davidlunn3800]

Really interesting subject and one I hadn't really thought about. I know for me I should not have gotten back into Warhammer when I did as I went all out on a Bretonian army, 6 weeks later they nerfed the line at the beginning of AoS. However it did lead back to the hobby and good friends so not a total issue.

[@lemontangs]

I returned after 30 years when my son discovered a bunch of my old OG Space marines and Space Crusade box. I hit Ultramarines pretty hard getting back in only to discover that my pile of shame was heading into the same direction they did 30 years ago. I decided to switch to small builds across all sorts army types instead of the old jarheads I'd been used to, and really enjoyed the change of scenery. Currently fitting out a small orc army, before I move on to my next one.

[@DashCamSheffield]

...I have 2 mounds of shame. I get Warhammer Imperium magazines, and been slow going. The Marines are greys....Necrons are better off. Got Kill Team starter, but boxed. Some Orks. However, I also have my collections at my parents house, as they never got moved when I moved out.... last seen late 2000's. Tau, 2 Ork armys, 2 Imperial Guard armies (including Tallarns), couple of Necromunda gangs, some Dark Angels.....and 2 boxes worth of Goblins & Dwarves from the WHFB starter....Its the modelling supplies that I still wanna get back...

[@OffTheShelfGameReviews]

Heck no!!! Because I got the warcry box on a major sale!!!........ #cryingintopilesofplastic

[@blobbypanda1613]

Completely am feeling the pile of shame, bought a Minas Tirith battlehost and an orc combat patrol a few weeks ago. Then I found a Pelennor Fields box set. I have so much stuff to paint. Ahhhhhh!

[@dogedad5172]

massive greggs moment

[@clock1212]

Thanks, great takes on the topic!

[@Boodoosh69]

My pile of shame or ever increasing opportunity fills my garage, but at 55 I got to have something to do when I retire in 20 years! With FOMO not being a thing I advise try to buy build paint repeat not buy buy build buy buy build paint buy buy

[@supervike1]

Blackstone Fortress, The Dreaded Ambull. I just want the damn model, for a reasonable price. FOMO is real.

[@Berserkerworks]

I justify it by telling myself its all bitz for conversions. Which conversions? Fucked if i know....

[@DenePaintsThings]

Get straight off that new release hype train man, no one needs a ticket on that! I succumbed to it pretty quickly when I got back into the hobby a few years ago - the marketing of "limited stock" and "great value" for the big box releases worked on me 100%. Now I have shelves full of models I will never build, paint or play with. It just sits next to my desk being a huge source of regret and decision anxiety when I have time to begin a new project! I've now switched tactics and commited to the smaller scale games I actually enjoy, like Middle Earth SBG, Warcry and Star Wars Legion. I'm enjoying rooting through ebay, facebook marketplace and other second hand sources to find those classic, older sculpts and give them a new home where they can be loved and played with. We don't need the new, shiny stuff to have fun! Next job is to sort out selling all the stuff I don't need.....

[@malefic5254]

I paced myself at first, but being pretty good at painting from the outset got me way too excited to do it and I started hunting around for deals, ended up with more models than I know what to do with. I've since dialed my spending WAY down in favor of building and painting what I have ( I don't generally have the time to play games, I've still yet to play a single game of warhammer or even killteam) and the other stuff I do to chill out.

[@joshcara5345]

Hey MS, why can’t I find your cursed city video anymore?

[@MSPaints]

KZbin cops took it down! One day I will re work it and re upload!

[@darkhighwayman1757]

The prices bars my deeper entry

[@richardgreathead5735]

Now rather than buy what's new in a game system I just stick to what I think will be fun to paint so even if I don't get round to playing it's not time waster