Are you facing a disciplinary hearing at your place of work.

[@amylouise5113]

I watched this before I went into a disciplinary hearing for 2 gross misconducts, decided I wasn’t taking any crap and wrote my own statement, backed up with evidence and witnesses and won my case, all allegations dropped against me 😊thank you for inspiring me to stand up for myself

[@michaelpeterson1928]

I`m here in Minneapolis Mn, On dec 16th 2020, I was called to meet , then I was told about a Hugh Hugh accusation,I was accused of in appropriate conduct but get this, we`re all mandated reporters by Law, but no Police report made, they refuse to give me documents of what was said by the accuser ,my company have got me taking 20, yes I said twenty training course`s, which tells me that their bogus, there`er so call investigation is on The accuser`s side, despite they have no date occurred, No Police report No witnesses ,no video even though we have hall camera`s everywhere.I feel like I did something wrong by telling The truth ,I need a lawyer`s help, where do I go,(Michael Peterson)

[@Liv1ngTheDream]

Thank you, I know I'm losing my job in a disciplinary next week and frankly can't justify bothering to fight to keep it anymore. Helps to hear any kind of sanity when you're in this situation, cheers!

[@DFandV]

Good luck in your future job! And if you are still in there hope you have better luck.

[@angelbay282]

How did it work out?

[@paulhatcher8450]

Sorry to hear that mate

[@stephenmurray2851]

What happened?

[@Liv1ngTheDream]

@@stephenmurray2851 Thanks for the replies. I handed in my notice instead of giving them any pleasure.

[@multijanni100]

Great video, thanks ! That straight talk is good and what's needed, no beating about the bush. Some of these organizations treat you like crap, and the people doing it think they're entitled to it. It gets worse, the more often they get away with it. By speaking up, this can be stopped. It's all so absurd - you run a great business with compassion, respect and humility, not with maltreatment.

[@Retrobeemer]

Thanks for the video. I've had an allegation made against me by a client and have been suspended for the past 3 months. I've been totally isolated by the process and had zero support. They've forbidden me from speaking to work friends and colleagues and I've been feeling close to a mental breakdown. I've been working 55 hours a week through the whole pandemic whilst many others in my office have been working remotely and not seen anyone face to face! My accuser is a known liar and drug user yet it feels like they're taking his word over mine. I'm not going to give up though! *I will fight this with every ounce of strength I can muster! Hearing your video has just given me a bit more incentive to fight my corner. I won't be bullied out of my career*

[@Hurtman2000]

What was the outcome, Mark?

[@Retrobeemer]

@@Hurtman2000 As there was no conclusive evidence either way they said that a 'breakdown in trust' and the subjective opinion of a manager I met once in passing, for a minute or so 2 years ago was enough! They also said colleagues (who contacted me!) was a breach of direct instruction that constituted gross misconduct. They lied about when that came to their attention and ignored the fact I told the investigating manager, who had said 'just be a bit careful about that' and failed to note any of it. They also said I'd had training (which I had not!) and called me a liar despite their own evidence showing I had been telling the truth. Thankfully, another organisation (in same client group) gave me a new job and have been really supportive. I'm taking a case of constructive dismissal to tribunal and am whistle blowing on the organisational failings of the company. I found 2 clients dead in my final 6 months and they didn't give me any support. The 2nd had laid undiscovered for 2 whole weeks and they only question I was asked was 'are you in tomorrow?'. Right now I cannot wait to go to tribunal and bring their failings into the public domain.

[@iibemythh8970]

My advice to anyone going thru an investigation and they're suspended, especially if you're forbidden to speaking to work friends and colleague (and feeling close to a mental breakdown), resign with immediate effect. If they reject your resignation, then resign with notice and just remain offsick for stress and low mood (get doctor notes from your GP) and testify to occupational health that you're unfit to attend formal proceedings due to excessive stress and emotional instability. Keep doing this until your notice period ends so that you can milk out as much sick pay from the company as possible until your notice period ends. Most likely tho they'll just let you resign with immediate effect and I'm pretty sure even if they reject your resignation, you could try to stop serving any company request and argue (in a tribunal if they sue you for breach of contractual notice period) that their jurisdiction ended with your resignation letter due to mental health conditions which made it impossible to work your notice along with a breakdown of relationship between yourself and the company due to the lack of support. More likely than not tho they'll just let you resign with immediate effect. That'll completely end the stress (and investigation), you won't be isolated anymore and you can contact your work friends without any restriction or jurisdiction from the company. If you want you can also take them to an employment tribunal (you must raise a grievance first, either while resigning raise the grievance, or raise a post employment grievance)@@Retrobeemer As for references since you've resigned, your record should be clean, most companies will just give a basic reference which is just your position in the company and your dates of employment. It's a great way to dodge disciplinary action

[@harveypratt995]

Record the meeting even if you are told you can’t. Keep it hidden. You can refer back to it if you need to pursue anything further. It will be proof of all that was said if you acquire help from anyone afterwards. It will prove and support that you are being truthful with whoever you have helping you afterwards. It will also prove if the employer is being truthful about what was said. Even if you aren’t allowed to record it everyone that helps you afterwards will know exactly what was said.

[@sunflowersrock1797]

A great video, like talking to your Dad and getting advice. Real info and confidence boost, thank you.

[@ixmo6346]

got a disciplinary on monday - your advice gave me a bit of confidence, cheers mate

[@paulhatcher8450]

How did it go?

[@ixmo6346]

@@paulhatcher8450 fucking well mate. i told them to stuff their job - I've jumped the career ladder and went self employed; best decision of my life. I really hope your advice helps others like it did for me.

[@paulhatcher8450]

Ixmo 6 good luck Pal

[@stephenmurray2851]

@@ixmo6346 good luck mate

[@seamusogradius8994]

@@ixmo6346 Good thing you are self employed now, there's no way you would have found a job after that attitude at the disaplinary hearing meeting.

[@steveyboyarrow]

Whilst putting a tape recorder on the table during a disciplinary hearing may make some kind of statement that you won't be taking any shit, an employee in the UK has no legal right to record a meeting unless all parties agree. If your employer refuses, which is what they're likely to do, then you will not be legally covered and doing so may actually get you in even more trouble...

[@deanotaggo9788]

Thanks for this, it seems you uploaded out of a personal thing. Dads will be dads and always look after their children. However I'm due a hearing over theft, I did not steal anything intentionally. When covid hit our company started working home based so all our pedestals where redundant after the 2 years, facilities gave us a month to clear them. I was in one Friday and seen facilities emptying all pedestal contents into a bin for all who did not clear them before the deadline, I spoke to a friend who was emptying them and said "don't bin that" it was a hole punch and a speaker thingy ma jig, he said you can take anything out of the bin as its going anyway, so next day Saturday I went into the office as I'd left my bank card the day before, it was 6am, I was on way to look after my mum and had to nip in, my pass was declined so I had security let me in, anyway I took all contents of my draw home whilst I was there and cleared everything up and took a few things from the bin, following Monday I was working from home and had a call from HR saying I've been suspended on allegations of theft. This was October, I'm now in January due to it knocking me sideways with anxiety and shame so I was signed off, this no doubt makes me look guilty but I know and my peers know the truth, Hearing next week and I've requested all evidence gained and what exactly they feel I've taken, its been hell knowing this is over my shoulder as my wife has worked for the same company 20 years me 6, why on earth would I jeopardise my job and also why on earth would they believe I would steal from my place of work. Anyway I'm going to go to town on them next week, they know they made a mistake immediately as they are now changing it to a safety issue as I left the floor door open apparently. (Because I went the loo) I didn't was to bother security again to reopen the door. I am nervous as hell but I need to face it, Mrs still doesn't know, have daughter too. Thing is I'm innocent, however I did steal from a bin. Lesson learned.

[@JakeBWFC]

You should of handed in a resignation between like oct-jan imo

[@iibemythh8970]

same I would've done that aswell just resign with immediate effect and stop complying with the company jurisdiction@@JakeBWFC

[@mangmiketeamtaiaha7256]

Brilliant video......I needed to hear this....thank you. Im going through some stress at work disaplinary..... basically made up BS by manager. I thought I hate the job anyway & I dont need this stress & it does make me ultra stressed..... effects sleep everything. Its difficult to sit front of a boss who basically is ripping your character to bits painting a picture of how your to blame to justify them sacking you anyway. I would rather not hear that.......feels degrading & humiliation. Your video is great your addressing a all to common thing in work places. I dont talk much keep my head down and treat everyone with respect as long as its 2way thing. Always try to make friendships...... Some people try to be bully or horrible....maybe because they think im weak. Im just after a job 6am to 2pm head down & be paid. Forget about work until next day..... why do employers feel like they own you?!?

[@colintalks6450]

Thank you

[@11iamrosskenny]

Thanks mate - did help. Will get union rep sorted & everything in writing 👍🏻

[@JulianaSilva-xq2bp]

If you are going through this right now I wish a lot of strength and peace of mind.

[@tvc153]

Your accent is so great! Thank you for this video

[@colintalks6450]

Thank you too!

[@ouanesachouche6785]

I'm 19 i got a college disciplinary hearing tomorrow for taking an exam in my friend's place, I've learned my lesson already but I'm afraid they want to give me the worse punishment to prevent these actions from happening again to make the other students afraid,your video definitely made me feel better thank you .

[@Alvarius_official]

Thabks for the help. I used these tactics today. I work at a company where the slightest thing I'm in a meeting and everyone else can do what ever. Any way for the second time. I caught my manager out. I refused the work and got sent home. Meeting today. First thing I said while it started. I'm recording this meeting. All changed. I think and hope I'm bringing down a bully as I get it alot. Anyway Thanks and I need a new job. Toxic energy drain to the max x

[@aaronclyne89]

Me to. I'm facing disaplinary meeting due to colleagues been bullies been friendly with me one minute stabbing me in the back now work is trying to go down gross misconduct even though its not upheld I have a learning disability and will be taking to tribunal matters arising from disability

[@seamusogradius8994]

I got a 12 month written warning for using offensive language in the workplace, I swore at my assistant who I caught trying to sneak out early to catch their bus and not tell me, so I panicked and swore at them. It turned out that they had permission to leave early, but because I'd sworn at them, I would be given a level 2 recorded warning for using offensive language in the workplace, I couldn't appeal against it cause I was on holiday during the week long appeal time. But instead of leaving, I stayed there to prove improve myself and make people forget about it.

[@paulhatcher8450]

Thanks mate, got a disciplinary for having 5 and half days off work on separate occasions within a year, I’m facing a written warning, not in a union but am taking a work colleague with me, thanks your quite comforting

[@seamusogradius8994]

Lucky you. My manager made me do two jobs while two people went home early, this left me extremely busy and stressed out, in the evening, my supervisor gave my assistant permission to leave quarter of an hour early cause they had a bus to catch and left their work for me to do, neither my assistant or supervisor told me of, I now have a twelve months written warning for swearing at my assistant cause I was panicking because I wouldn't get the shifts done, do you think this is fair?

[@rustledjammies8769]

Thanks for the advice! Luckily I am one of the few at my work who has a union, and of those who are in one, I am the only not in the fucking useless recognised one! I've already called them, so hopefully I get a response! Hopefully I get my actual union officer as he has a huge, authorative, old guard personality and doesn't take any shit, which will put my quiet, awkward boss in his place. I'm part shitting myself, part buzzing!

[@alwayslogoff6735]

I enjoyed listening to your advice, and thank you very much.

[@ollvebranch]

2yrs ago, I was sacked for gross misconduct to be used as a scapegoat to avoid a serious case review which would have put Social Services and Education under scrutiny. Unison were more interested in having a pop at the CC during the meetings, rather than trying to save my job; which had just received an ‘inadequate’ OFSTED for its Childrens Services. They were next to useless. If I’d had the money I’d have got a solicitor.

[@Idkkyff]

Were you still able to.find a job afterwards?

[@yourusernameeludesme8609]

I’m a branch manager and have had too sack two people before. Both were instant dismissal one for Gross Misconduct (theft) and the other for failing a random Drug Test for Cannabis. There was no nip picking about evidence or unions. Both were out within an hour. HR and myself had them bang to rights. Written up a few warnings for staff too. But wouldn’t bully an employee if your a good worker and respect the establishment you’re all good

[@seamusogradius8994]

I got a level 2 recorded warning for a first time offense of swearing at a colleague, what does swearing come under, gross or serious misconduct?

[@yourusernameeludesme8609]

@@seamusogradius8994 depends on the company and the type of establishment you work in. When you say you swore at a Colleague can you elaborate on the situation. Was you provoked do you and this colleague have history does the manager and the colleague have a good relationship.

[@seamusogradius8994]

@@yourusernameeludesme8609 what happened was that I used to do evening shifts where I work,one day I had a new supervisor and a new assistant, during the afternoon I had to do someone else shift in another department, as well as mine, while two people in my department went home early, this left me extremely busy,in the evening, my brand new supervisor who hadn't proper training let my new assistant go home early cause their job was done and they had a bus to catch, I caught them going early, told them to get back, when they refused,I flew off the handle and swore at them, I now have a level 2 recorded warning for using offensive language towards that person.

[@kozackikana]

I have a disciplinary hearing on 11th about being on influence of drugs, because someone set up police on me on Sunday night and they were waiting for me next to my workplace and found cannabis in my system, even though I did smoke 19h before I was stopped. Then I was taken to police custody and blood sample was taken. Now Im waiting for results, but hearing is before results might come. They allegation is i was intoxicated by drugs. It is gross misconduct. What you guys think I could hear? There are not previous complains on my person during my 2 years carrer there. Im good and reliable person and never had any complains about my work performance. What guys you think I should except? Finger crossed

[@stephenphoenix-roberts9447]

Best thing if you are asked to attend a disciplinary meeting. The out is in the tittle. Discipline means the intended to discipline your before you put your side of the story. Write to the person chairing the meeting saying you have pre judge the outcome of the meeting. You are willing to attend a investigation meeting to explain yourself. The chair of the meeting will shit them self. If they refuse to change it say in that case only attend the meeting with a acase officer. Watch how fast they will make that meeting disappear 😂.

[@seamusogradius8994]

I had to attend a disaplinary hearing for swearing at my assistant who didn't tell me they'd been given permission to go by the supervisor and left everything for me to do,I swore at my assistant cause I was panicking that I wouldn't be able to finish three jobs that my manager gave me, he forced me to lie and say it was my assistant fault that I swore at my assistant.

[@seamusogradius8994]

I had to attend a disaplinary hearing, my supervisor let my assistant go home early to catch her bus and left everything for me to do, neither my assistant or supervisor told me of this, I swore at my assistant cause I was panicking I wouldn't get three shifts done that my manager made me do, my manager forced me to lie and say it was my assistant fault that I swore at my assistant, manager then gave me a twelve months written warning for using offensive language towards my assistant, cause my management didn't want a lawsuit.

[@stephenphoenix-roberts9447]

Seamus Ogradius - if it with in 7 day of the meeting. Appeal it under the grounds of unprofessional behaviour. Possibly breach of company policy. Ok it may have been wrong for you to swore but as the supervisor caused you anxiety and doing work 3 other have not done.The boss will not be happy that he payed for someone to finish early and 3 people to slacking . And company policy may show a written warning is a stage 3 reward. So you should of had a no action or verbal warning first. The boss may thank you for highlighting this poor management and reverse the written warning. Good luck.

[@seamusogradius8994]

Yes, I should've appealed against unprofessional behavior, my supervisor, who's second day in the job it was, let my assistant go home early to catch their bus, my supervisor did this, fully well knowing how much work I still had to do, my assistant, was in such a hurry to catch their bus, they didn't even tell me they were leaving, or that they'd be given permission to.

[@colintalks6450]

That is great info, show them your no mug before you even attend, great comment.

[@marianaoctubre]

Thank you so, so much for this. Greetings from Mexico

[@colintalks6450]

You're very welcome!

[@AidasRusa]

Hi and thank you for the nice and clever video. What to do if like me dosn't have anybody to come with me to disciplinary meeting. I am not a member of union and I don't think so that my company would let anybody to be present with me at the meeting.

[@flowergirl8841]

In the industry I work in which is very rewarding and some times challenging I love the work and job but staff can be very clicky and like to get one up on each other by gossiping and back bitting, reporting each other for little, next to nothing, this can be so draining and demoralising and lately been thinking of leaving an industry that I have done for years and love. Maybe this is the push I need to leave toxic people.

[@MrKeyblader]

I am currently pending a disciplinary over allegations over not disclosing conviction. But I did in interview got the job been working for them bout a year and a half. Now the manager I told is no longer there and there’s no official record of my disclosure.... it’s not my fault the conviction was for a offence flipping 9years ago but they could hide behind the code of counduct saying it’s a breach of trust I have been if anything so transparent with them gone into such details over it all and I have not got a single bad mark on my record since I began

[@kishageorge7788]

I have disciplinary next Tuesday for shouting at my manager. She made racist remarks about potential nurses and she was very rude to me also. So I blasted her

[@jaymorgan.]

How did that turn out?

[@kishageorge7788]

@@jaymorgan. I took them to court and got a nice pay out. The company tried to cover up the racist remarks and tried to sabotage my job. So resigned due to stress.

[@jaymorgan.]

@@kishageorge7788 Good for you and yeah sometimes best to move on.

[@ihuomankwocha]

@@kishageorge7788please what city are you in, am in Manchester and may be needing help to face my company

[@kishageorge7788]

@@jaymorgan. In the UK £25,000 is seen as decent

[@user-bf1le3fz3h]

You’re video was extremely beneficial!! I would love to speak to you and get some advice please!

[@soundboy605]

THUMBS UP AND THANK YOU SIR!

[@kamranraja5281]

What a video!! Respect sir

[@vuyondlazi3477]

Good day. I am charged at work. But my charge only tells me what company rule I broke. But doesn't tells what I did to have broken that company rule. Is the charge fair?

[@maximuscarnage9681]

I am facing a disaplinary tomorrow. I am contracted to 50 hrs a week. I had done 55 hrs and refused to work on while others had not completed 50 hrs and had gone home. Totally outrageous.

[@DFandV]

Good luck mate. If you still there good on you. And if not hope you have better luck at your next job. I will be on mine this Friday.

[@whotusay750]

Thank you for this video

[@olay4520]

i've got a meeting tomorrow for doing something that many other people also do on an occasion, i am stressed out and i just dont know what do to. i will edit this comment after the meeting, hopefully im not fired.

[@zanu8871]

How did it go?

[@olay4520]

@@zanu8871 It went okay i guess, they knew other people were doing it so they just let me go on a warning

[@lelemahit678]

@@olay4520 I'm hoping for a good answer this evening. I did same mistake like others to a customer, we just received a feedback from our client. I'm kinda panic and completely lost with my job.

[@seamusogradius8994]

Nelly Nelly. If other people were doing it and you got a warning, two questions, what warning did you get? Did the others get a warning too?

[@michaelschmidt3334]

Need your help please. I had a disciplinary hearing and didn't recieve the minutes of the meeting what should I do?

[@matthewballard1969]

Hi Colin, my employer has given me a disciplinary but saying I'm to be accompanied by a fellow employee only

[@employeerightschannelyouwo5436]

Great advice!

[@colintalks6450]

Glad it was helpful!

[@vickymugambi4816]

What if you don't have a union rep or witness

[@zeriul09]

i have a disciplinary next week, i was apparently rude to a customer, i maintain i was not but suddenly i've been suspended with pay and got a meeting to discuss it but apparently this can lead to 'gross mis-conduct' and can be sacked, additionally at this point in time, the company is trying to reduce contracted hours and im on one of the highest contracts there so the circumstances are suspect

[@stephenmurray2851]

This is the same as me. I have a disciplinary at 13:00

[@magentalavey3683]

Exactly the same thing for me!

[@stephenmurray2851]

@@magentalavey3683 You have it today?

[@xmc7189]

But workers unions doesn not defend workers at all they more in favour of employer

[@pharissmith7107]

am worried

[@thepinebarons]

Thanks mate

[@colintalks6450]

Happy to help

[@sueannprince4555]

Thank you x

[@aliciasimpson6049]

Hello , I am due to attend a disciplinary meeting tomorrow as I have been accused of deleting emails , I categorically refute that I am responsible. They have emailed me the ‘evidence’ but there is no evidence to say I am responsible for this. The attachments show what emails have been deleted but there is no evidence that I physically deleted the emails. My boss Claire doesn’t stay professional and brings her emotion into the situation and treats me like a child , I am unable to take a representative or colleague in with me and I am worried that they will walk all over me , please help

[@stephenmurray2851]

How did you get on?

[@aliciasimpson6049]

I was dismissed and looking for a new job now

[@stephenmurray2851]

@@aliciasimpson6049 I'm sorry to hear that. Sounds like they were terrible anyway. I hope it works out OK

[@andrikvasquez9854]

I just got one right now for no show or call but I already quit. Because I got a better job

[@Alilbitfrench]

Can you help me

[@zarelli7831]

Good video bro

[@colintalks6450]

thanks for your kind comment

[@northeast_gaz389]

hi good video i need some advice please well i currently work for the nhs and i have been bullied regarding my mental health and i thought i did the correct thing by going to the manager now its all turned on me now and i have been called into a early probation hearing at work i have a funny feeling i will either get dismissed or perhaps redepoloyment

[@sadiaxx2357]

LUCIFER what was the outcome

[@northeast_gaz389]

@@sadiaxx2357 hi the outcome came out as they have extended my probation for a further 3 month but i am doing a thing called phrase return at work but i think i am going to be a hospital porter

[@sadiaxx2357]

LUCIFER so they haven’t fired you. Omg I feel for you

[@northeast_gaz389]

@@sadiaxx2357 hello no they havent fired me they have even put redeployment on pause at the moment but at present im doing phrase return in portering so looking good for nyself becoming what i what to do but in fairness i feel either i am getting discramted against my mental health but i could be wrong

[@sadiaxx2357]

LUCIFER that’s sad. Don’t let it get to you .

[@Alilbitfrench]

Bullied at work

[@Alilbitfrench]

It will be on video call because of Covid

[@glorialawton1554]

Very good advice Sir.

[@colin562]

Good talk but at the end it became politically correct which was disappointing...he went into if someone treats you bad because of race or being gay or religion.....he didn't say the real reason which is 99% of the time which is simply bullying

[@kreed82]

Oh please