⚠ Have you ever been written up at work? How did you respond? Did you make any mistakes? ⚠
@AndreaHernandez-hg7st2 жыл бұрын
Yes I work at Sacramento low income housing SHRA I'm in a fact finding investigation. Tomorrow.
@cd4playa12452 жыл бұрын
My question is if you refuse to sign a written warning and then you’re fired for it then can I still collect unemployment? I have a feeling that two coworkers of mine might be targeting me and looking for any excuse to report me to Hr due to my Christian faith. The one harasses me quite often, and because he’s a gay black man I feel he might try to use that as ammunition.
@asiaanderson55562 жыл бұрын
@@cd4playa1245 Interesting. im curious why you feel the need to mention "he is black"🤔
@letstalk60072 жыл бұрын
I received a text from my supervisor with instructions to go to drop off a trailer and pick up another one, he said when you are done drop the trailer back off. He text me that week and said he was told that I do two loads and head straight to the company yard. I did so and got wrote up for not dropping the trailer back off at the other yard. I told him he text me to head straight back after two loads, and he said oh my fault, I’ll take the blame, but the manager still wants to write you up.
@cd4playa12452 жыл бұрын
@@asiaanderson5556 because in this day and age of cancel culture and doxing a lot of companies might be very intimidated to fire a black employee, especially if they’re apart of the LGBT community, even if they have evidence that that employee was harassing others. And if you think about it you questioned me automatically and probably assumed that I’m racist for merely stating a non offensive fact. Can you see why employers might want to avoid being questioned by the masses or accused of racism? Think of the lawsuits.
@brandonb8468 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, a good manager will give you an "unofficial" verbal warning with constructive criticism if it's a legitimate problem that they want to fix and keep you. Anytime the official write up comes into play, it's about protecting the company while they get ready to fire you, regardless of if it's for a legitimate reason or not.
@Jasonmakesvideo Жыл бұрын
My job must love me because I've gotten tons of those.
@user-bv3ns9iq5z Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@timayjust Жыл бұрын
Facts I’m a Manager at Amazon
@Gutenburg100 Жыл бұрын
I'm a manager at Jimmy John's and have always started with verbal coaching to see if said employee can improve. If problem persists then it's documented verbal warnings. Once again if the problem persists then it's write ups and I'm more than likely trying to get rid of you.
@mrnobody6609 Жыл бұрын
Verbal warnings are just as childish as write-ups. A good manager tries to help you fix whatever issues you're having that are causing the problem.
@chrismorrison8047 Жыл бұрын
I got my one and only write up in twenty years earlier this year. I left the meeting, walked out to the parking lot, and made one call to an employer I knew. (I tend to keep potential employers in the background. My first responsibility is to myself and my family!).I had an offer in hand two weeks later. You can imagine the joy with which I turned in my notice immediately thereafter. I absolutely love my new job and the potential career path it has opened. :)
@ericknoblauch9195 Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing you did on my last job. I kept a former boss and potential employer at bay just in case my current employer was going to pull something. When they did pull something, I went home, and contacted a former boss who did move on. After the write up, I contacted the former boss, and had a new job the next day. When you work for someone else, you have to always have a backup plan you can refer to just in case your boss decides to turn on you. Your family and living in a place where you have an address is more important. You have to look out for yourself and family.
@Kyle-sr6jm Жыл бұрын
No matter what level you are, no matter how good the job, ALWAYS keep contacts where someone can use you.
@jaydenp4975 Жыл бұрын
What was the write up for? That was a sudden move for you to make.
@chrismorrison8047 Жыл бұрын
@@jaydenp4975 Insufficient productivity. Obviously, I strongly disagreed with my employer. I gave those reasons in writing to HR at the exit interview I requested. Everything was documented. Just to give one example (of many), they wanted to know why in one particular week I only visited 10 patients rather than the 25 minimum. I pointed out that I was out with COVID from that Wednesday-Friday. So those ten were done on Monday-Tuesday. That my manager didn't realize that was a large part of the problem. She was overwhelmed by the stress being placed on her by senior management to properly manage her own team (which was and is far too long). BTW, in the two weeks after I left, 25 other people left voluntarily, too. It was just a toxic work environment due to serious staffing issues. So, yes, it was a sudden move, but I was aware of the toxicity of environment very shortly after hiring. I was able to make the sudden move because I had cultivated several relationships just in case. The write-up was just my excuse to pull the trigger and get out.
@michaelszczys8316 Жыл бұрын
@@chrismorrison8047 there you go. I have had jobs where they were amazed at how I was happy and smiling when they let me go because that was the ' trigger ' to get me a different workplace. I really hate working at places that make you feel like you need to grovel at their feet everyday.
@heypepe4502 Жыл бұрын
A write-up shows you're working in the wrong place. When you're written up, one of two things is true. Either a) you're not doing the job well or b) the write up is bogus, and they're laying ground work to fire you. Either scenario shows that, regardless of whether it's your fault or their fault, you're employed at the wrong place. Once you get written up you shouldn't focus your energies on "improving", you should focus your energies on obtaining your next job.
@deliveryguyrx9 ай бұрын
Yes! Maryland is an "at-will" work state, which means management can terminate you for any reason or NO reason. I got shitcanned from a job on a Friday afternoon,5 minutes before the end of my shift.It took some time, but I wound up getting a better paying job with less responsibility.
@kennylc21939 ай бұрын
Or maybe the staff member has pushed the envelope for so far and so long and they need to be put on notice that their shit won’t be tolerated any longer? That’s precisely what I’m dealing with right now.
@ArchibaldClumpy9 ай бұрын
@@deliveryguyrx I hate it when people spin "at will employment" as something that allows either employees or employers to terminate agreements at any time, as if that's equality. Well obviously employees can quit their jobs; they're not slaves. "At will" employment just benefits the people with the power.
@melaniexoxo9 ай бұрын
I don’t think anyone should ever resign. Let things play out. They will probably lay you off to avoid litigation, and unemployment will give you lots of time to devote to a full-time job search.
@user-ke2cy4kx8j7 ай бұрын
@@melaniexoxo , Great suggestion.💁🏽💯
@smacnee3278 Жыл бұрын
I responded by quitting and starting my own business. I'll never work for anyone ever again and it gives me peace of mind and makes me happy.
@ericschulze56413 күн бұрын
But now your customers are your boss
@janh519911 ай бұрын
My daughter had a negative write up and was called into HR. Fortunately she had notes from every meeting, including after action notes, and copies of every email. She showed up at HR with a thick notebook with the pertinent pages tabbed. She ended up getting a promotion.
@la61368 ай бұрын
Why work for a company like this at all? This is like being in public school all over again and getting called to the principals office.
@fieryjalapenos44426 ай бұрын
@@la6136 could have been her first job after college and was trying to get experience.
@Jerry_17386 ай бұрын
@@la6136wouldn’t you get satisfaction in regards to getting one over your theoretical principal?
@shellh.51936 ай бұрын
I don't understand how what she brought gave her a promotion? Elaborate pls
@fieryjalapenos44426 ай бұрын
@@shellh.5193 it’s called BS.
@steveconsultant45232 жыл бұрын
A write-up is nature's way of telling you to find a new job.
@WLTruth Жыл бұрын
Yeah like when Adam got his first write up… uh oh… lol
@richb1576 Жыл бұрын
True
@michaelszczys8316 Жыл бұрын
Where I work they come up with bogus things and rules from time to time for us to agree and sign. People get confused and concerned, I tell them it's just to make sure they have plenty of back-up for in case they want to get rid of us. Myself with the one-of-a-kind job I do I just ignore it and think if they get rid of me and have no one to do it then it is not my problem.
@jaydenp4975 Жыл бұрын
Not always. Sometimes the employee needs to improve. They get complacent and lazy and need a little nudge.
@daisykaren6584 Жыл бұрын
Honestly when you got a minwage, job just just who gives a crap. I had a minwage job the boss gave me 2 day off then change his mine and said if did come in I would be fire, well I never show up again expect 2 Fridays from Now.
@jasonweiss3160 Жыл бұрын
I worked as a public defender for over 10 years. In my last year there, the office tried to assign an excessive amount of cases that was predetermined as unethical. After a point, I refused to accept new cases because I am ethically required to do so. Soon after, I was written up. I stayed long enough to refinance my home and then left to open my own practice. These office managers are not your friends. They are not family. Always have an exit strategy when you have a boss.
@ronmoore6598 Жыл бұрын
"Always have an exit strategy when you have a boss." 100%.
@James_Dowdy Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@ShandaBspeaks86 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That's good. Always have an exit strategy when you have a boss.
@Outrunninaround. Жыл бұрын
Glad your doing much better.
@mrFalconlem11 ай бұрын
Find another job that’s got a start date 1st, oh yeah don’t give them 2 weeks, many places fire you immediately when you give notice, see what your company does, if that’s a regular thing even when a manager leaves, they are jerks. Say your private good byes to people you can trust the day you leave, if they ask you if you are leaving though say you have no plans, realize they usually need to coordinate to send you packing, don’t give them any notice.
@danielcleary1072 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I got written up for violating a company policy. I had to meet with my supervisor, manager, director and some person from HR. I was shocked because I thought I had followed the policy to the letter, but I was getting written up for the way I “handled” the situation. My manager attached a copy of the policy I was accused of violating to my write up. The write up outlined my actions which was almost exactly the same as the policy. They actually proved in writing I was correct! They also accused me of leaving early that day and attached my time card which showed I clocked out three minutes after my shift ended. It was one of the most bizarre experiences of my career.
@kanyewest6539 Жыл бұрын
life lesson. rule books exist to be exploited and used by administrators to enforce their will. the rulebook is their divine mandate to rule. as a worker peasant you are not expected to read the rules, and in fact most admins dont read the rules until they encounter a problem they want to solve with "the rules" if the rule they want to be there isnt found, they pretend something else is the rule they want, and stll do what they want, because you arent expected to be able or willing to read. when a worker peasant is found to be able to read, and usurp the rules against the admins, this is insubordination and the company will use any means necessary to eliminate you. they cant have an uppity worker teaching the other workers how to read. this goes for the corprate world, as well as the government.
@kettch77711 ай бұрын
@@kanyewest6539 the flip side of that is if a company violates a written policy or punishes you for following policy, judges tend to take a very dim view of that.
@changsterville11 ай бұрын
From my own experience if management wrote you up for the smallest thing, then they are looking for a reason to get rid of you. It could be that you are not a good employee and they are starting the termination process through documentations. Management do not write up good employees, but give warning and training for honest mistakes.
@deez4evs11 ай бұрын
Some folks get high on power… that’s what this sounds like.
@danielcleary107211 ай бұрын
@@changsterville at that time I was just about the only one who came to work on time, stayed awake at work and volunteered for overtime.
@vektacular9 ай бұрын
I’ve been written up over 15 times and I’m still here 30 years later.
@jaredemry1703 ай бұрын
Bruh, get written up, get Union to toss it as bogus.
@markme43 ай бұрын
😂
@vektacular3 ай бұрын
@@jaredemry170 bingo!
@sophiajack86462 ай бұрын
I had coworkers like you before😂. We work with the state.
@tmanepic2 ай бұрын
Yep! I had a job where just about everybody received multiple writeups. I got two, my coworker who started about the same time had 3 or so I think, and when he asked my other coworker who had been there longer she had 7. Basically really shitty management but since they couldn't attract any new employees, I don't think anyone was ever fired from there. I left though, why stay at a place where you get treated like that?
@user-ke2cy4kx8j8 ай бұрын
As a HR person in the past. This attorney is absolutely 💯🎯
@alestursic9614 ай бұрын
Everyone needs to make money. Job position is highly likely underpaid. And there is plenty of underpaid jobs to take out there. There is no point of staying and being labeled as difficult.
@GoogleIsAPieceOfShit20233 жыл бұрын
In my experience, when they give you the first write-up you’re on borrowed time. Start looking for a new job after the FIRST write-up.
@jhaydmead92973 жыл бұрын
So true
@Troy-kc1ck3 жыл бұрын
Soo at my work this guy left and they want me to work his job they think I’m working so I left too I got a write up lol 😂
@lrj4213 жыл бұрын
Amen....If it starts bad, chances it will get worse 😒 That's why im going into Business 4 myself as Entrepreneurial😀
@you_only_have_4000_weeks3 жыл бұрын
Never quit your job. Fight through it, itz your job, go to HR, tell their boss, they will hate you but they already do.
@lindsaynicholson21533 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They're not a good business if they have those types of write ups.
@BecauseRC413 Жыл бұрын
My wife works at a hospital and they covid test all employees once a week. So yesterday she had a positive test. I called work and told them I can't come in. My manager said it would count as a call out and I would be written up. I said okay I can come in and when I spread covid I'll make sure to tell everyone who gets sick that you made me come in. She said stay home
@RedCrimson_v2 Жыл бұрын
Should have done this when i was at Publix. Looking back i see they were setting me up to get terminated. Had me at one time only working a day a month. They have an automatic system that detects who hasnt worked 30 consecutive days. The 29th day I got real sick and this was when covid was brand new summer 2020. When i came back they brought me to the office and didnt give af. Policy over health concerns. Back then i was such an insecure pussy, had it happened now at 23 theyd know the exact number of lights in the courtroom. Wish i knew about worker rights and laws at 19
@onwardsandupwards7397 Жыл бұрын
@@RedCrimson_v2 Employees had to work 30 consequtive days?
@hostileaks449511 ай бұрын
@@RedCrimson_v2 lol, if they drop your hours that much pretty clear they want you gone
@ForgottenKnight111 ай бұрын
You missed a very good case of malicious compliance :)))
@user-xp7oj6bd3e11 ай бұрын
With a hard time with PTSD AND the other area's of physical and mental health difficulties of the disorder
@rughty Жыл бұрын
I used to get written up at Walmart all the time. I laughed because I knew my value. I was given my "last write-up before being fired" 7 times in one year. Always when it came down to firing me the manager realized he'd then have to replace me and the conversation went something like, "We're going to do you a favor and roll back the last write-up so that this one will be the really for real last one." 6 times. btw to show you how serious they are about firing you they give you what's called a D-day, Decision Day, a paid day off/suspension to reflect upon your need for change. 7 times. Yup, I got a full week's paid vacation for getting written up. I never got fired. I quit the week after the manager I hated got fired. I only wanted to outlast him out of spite.
@DFullerLisa Жыл бұрын
That's some spite. I love it! ❤️
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Seems similar to me a while back, pissed off a manager twice in one week to get written up twice, which is a week suspension...did this because they decided to deny my request of paid time off for the following week, so I got what I wanted in the end and they were short staffed 1 person for a week LOL. They haven't tried that stupid move again since....maybe they learned...doubtful, but now when I request time off they know I'm not kidding, and I won't be there regardless. I have paid time off accumulated for a reason, and when I ask for a day or a few off its because I need that time off for family, it ain't because I don't feel like being at work, its because I have a family situation I have to take care of. The person doing the schedules sure as hell makes sure herself and her little friends get all the time off they want...I'll do the same with myself, whether the request for PTO is granted or not, I won't be there on the days I request off, when I make appointments, and have to change them because of a doctor, or whatever, those requests of time off aren't a request, they are saying I won't be there period. The place I work isn't worth my health anymore and I'm getting ready to throw the letter down here pretty soon on them and move onto something better...hell washing garbage trucks would be a better job at this point.
@MissyMuthaTruckiN10 ай бұрын
this is the way
@deliveryguyrx9 ай бұрын
Cool beans!
@blowitoutyourcunt76759 ай бұрын
Walmart mamager clocked me back in to write me up because I said excitedly 'No shit!' to a friend on the phone (no uniform/off the clock), she heard me from another aisle and was gunning for me. The look on her face 4 weeks later when I told her 'I quit!' and I'd be working for a competitor w much better pay and treatment was priceless. She actually thought she'd be able to fire me for BS reasons, I didn't stay to give her the opportunity. I love that next job I had, was valued and topped out my position/pay rate there! Quit shopp in ng at Walmart soon after also LOL, they lost an employee and customer!
@christiandean109911 ай бұрын
This brings me back to when I worked at Walmart. I was a cashier, and pretty good at it. Well, one of the registers I ran, was short on money. I didn't get written up, but the next day, they wanted another employee to shadow me. I wasn't mad at first, I didn't think anything of it. But out of curiosity, I asked why I was being shadowed for the day, and their reply was "You've been making some mistakes, so we just want to make sure you're up to par." I was upset, and wanted to improve, so I asked what mistakes I've been making. The same person said she didn't know. It was that moment when I realized that I hadn't made mistakes. They're treating me like a thief and watching me. So on my 15 minute break, I took 45 minutes. I let it brood for a bit. When I returned, it was busy. And in front of customers I told the CSMs that I'm leaving early and I do not appreciate being treated like a thief. And told them if my early leave affects my attendance and this treatment continues the next day, I would get HR involved. Well, it didn't affect my attendance, and the bullshit stopped.
@n00bster83 Жыл бұрын
Got two write ups for egregious work-related mistakes on my part during my first year of employment. Write ups covered only the issue at hand and were handled professionally by management. Next year after working diligently and following the performance improvement recommendations, the very same manager who issued me the wrote up and coached me to improve, gave me the employee of the year award (among 100+ employees) along with a bonus. Some managers *are* fair and just do their job.
@majormarketing655211 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@chrisbgood23599 ай бұрын
I agree
@matthyou5616 ай бұрын
Both of you are wrong and part of the problem.
@fireteamomega23435 ай бұрын
Oftentimes the strategy of putting you on eggshells (assuming you can get three writeups before termination) is to milk you for everything they can with the intent of eventually firing you.
@kiddytube39157 күн бұрын
You’re one of the rare exceptions.
@demondogmom7221 Жыл бұрын
I had 3 toxic write ups in 40+ years in IT. First one was the day after my management at a law enforcement agency found out I was pregnant (1980). I responded. I got another one the next day.... and responded...and they proceeded to write me up 2 times a week, every week. Since Id had two years of commendations, I pointed out the odd correlation between their awareness of my pregnancy and the initial write up. I asked with each write up what specifically I needed to do.... which they never did. So, I kept detailed hourly documentation, continued to do my job, read the policies and requested an Internal Affairs investigation. I found a new job, turned in my notice and figured that was it.. nope. They wrote me up for "misfeasance, malfeasance and non feasance" which is criminally failing to do your job, the next day. Game on. Long story short, had an IA trial...me with 4 4" binders of documentation, and them with nothing. I won. In front of me the IA Captain told my 3 managers if I sued them, the department would NOT stand behind them. I did not sue, but their careers in the department died. Worked for me. I was 24. This was my second job in IT. It was a well learned lesson. The next two write ups were 13 and 25 years after that first one. I was unsurprised and handled both the same way. Although, I admit, on the last one I made it a vendetta to get her gone, and I succeeded. However, the stress nearly destroyed my health. As much satisfaction as I got from her transferring out, it was not worth it. Best advice I can give, do EXACTLY what they tell you in the performance improvement plan. Second toxic write up said I had to work 7:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. with an hour for lunch at 11:30 to 12:30. So, I did exactly that. If there was a production support issue going on and 4:30 hit, I left, with apologies that I wasn't allowed to work beyond 4:30. If I was in a meeting, I would leave at precisely 11:30 for lunch. I successfully navigated that because they were very specific and I followed it exactly. Once I was officially off it, I continued to do the plan to avoid any future issues... and found a new job. Do exactly what's in the plan and find a new job.
@tuvoca825 Жыл бұрын
If someone leaves before the other person... they often lost the last word. Unless they sue. They tried false accusations on someone I know and I told them to sign nothing. They quit and left their tale with HR. Givernment jobs don't always fire the right people.
@wilsonle61 Жыл бұрын
I was 52 in a law enforcement agency when my mentally deranged Sergeant came after me with an IA. Wish I had thought to do what you did. But, in the end, leaving that dysfunctional agency was the best thing I ever did.
@user-bv3ns9iq5z Жыл бұрын
This story is a lie
@demondogmom7221 Жыл бұрын
@@wilsonle61 working in a toxic environment is never a good thing. Honestly, it's best to leave. Glad you escaped.
@aussieL14M Жыл бұрын
Great handling of the situation at 23 years old. But is you leaving the job is not them winning? They get you out of the company and don't pay severance
@jacquelinemanzano93283 жыл бұрын
In my entire employment history, If and when I was ever written up I responded accordingly and wrote them up. There are two sides to every incident. I was only written up twice and both times I won the war and the battle, and continued my employment without further harassment. I take the law and my rights very seriously and I exercise those rights when necessary. Simply put, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I am retired since the early 2000's.
@cflcami10083 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment I will take this and use it
@jacquelinemanzano93283 жыл бұрын
@@cflcami1008 For the purpose of clarity; one write up was related to surveillance, where the Mgr. alleged that he heard me say something while he was viewing me on the surveillance camera! When he confronted me, I refused to sign the contrived write up, (because the work place had "Video not Audio" surveillance) and I challenged him to show me the tape and allow me to hear it! Obviously he was unable to prove the fantasy. It ended in human resources because my paperwork promised consequences if the incident was to move forward. 2nd write up , same Mgr. alleged that i wrote a childish note on a company memo, he went on to say he knew it was my handwriting, etc. same result, paperwork with consequences, it ended in human resources. He was let go 2 weeks later and replaced with a decent Mgr. He was terminated for "careless handling of company funds," who would have thought!!
@cflcami10083 жыл бұрын
@@jacquelinemanzano9328 wow!! My assistant manager is who attempted to write me up (after having himself a history of not so good reports from other team member including I) and my store manager (whom I was expecting to write me up for speaking up) pulled me aside to tell me he had the assistant put in his two weeks and He was supportive of me! Thank you for following up!
@kobe512 жыл бұрын
Cool story, Bro!
@caribbeanqueen45352 жыл бұрын
I actually like your response. Everyone just tells you to quit. I hate being a quitter.
@gordonmcmillian6145 Жыл бұрын
I’ll make this quick. I got a poor evaluation from a job at had just started. I didn’t feel like it was fair cause my supervisor passed me on to someone else to train me for my first few weeks and that person was frequently out of the office during that period getting her teeth fixed and aiding her sick mother so I was learning the basics on the fly. I wrote a response letter to that evaluation (which was my right to do so). The meeting to discuss my response they asked “did you write this yourself? I ask cause some of the vocabulary words you use don’t seem to fit you”. The word in question was vetted. Sentence in which I used the word “during a training period, all work should be properly vetted by the supervising officer before submission , especially since I was required to use said officer’s credentials since my information has not been integrated into the system as of yet” I am a college educated black man, and for them to insinuate that my use of the 8th grade vocabulary word was beyond my reach even though they haven’t had any conversations with me to be able to ascertain that fact was blatant disrespect. I spoke with my father about the situation (bad idea) cause his response was to “not make waves” and forget it. My supervisor started treating me differently from that day on and I lost my job like 6 months later. Moral of my story: don’t let anything slide, protect urself from a legal standpoint and WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN!
@dennisholliday2454 Жыл бұрын
I think you should have told them your LAWYER wrote that for you 😉
@jaydenp4975 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like it was a horrible place to work. You’re probably better off leaving. I hope you found something better.
@gordonmcmillian6145 Жыл бұрын
@@jaydenp4975 i am better off, the worse part was family members saying i was dumb for saying something or that i had "no right" to highlight this and other poor management practices because im "new". Literally siding with people they've never met over someone they supposedly care about. My favorite "you wanted to fight the system and now you're unemployed" 😂. I now have the perspicacity to treat my family as hostile as the assholes at my former job.
@cultmecca Жыл бұрын
Sounds like racist management
@debbiew.7716 Жыл бұрын
@@gordonmcmillian6145 Sometimes family can be rough:(
@frozenking666 Жыл бұрын
I would like to add the #4 reason to write you up. In some companies is it general policy that if you have a write up within a certain period of time , 3-6 months, that you don’t get a wage increase. It was training for new managers that you should be writing up people at least once a month so that around 1/2 of your employees do not get a raise and that saves the company money. It also makes it look like I’m doing my job so I can get a better raise later.
@bluesun20016 ай бұрын
Holy s**t, thanks for sharing.
@irenesmith85906 ай бұрын
Yep!
@fireteamomega23435 ай бұрын
Yeah I worked for a place where a lead stepped down because he refused to arbitrarily write people up. It's a real practice and creates a negative work environment.
@TheEmpressNyx5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. They’re absolutely soulless.
@WASH3D Жыл бұрын
I just got written up for a store I manage being burglarized, while enjoying my day off. My boss, the director of retail was messaging my team in my absence and now months later I'm being painted as the fall guy. Thank you for this video.
@conservativebarbiedoll589 Жыл бұрын
I injured myself at work and as a manager I saw what my job was doing 2 years later. I have lifelong injuries due to my accident, and once I got fired I sued and won. I even coached others dealing with my exact situation. It was sad to see people emboldened with such power squirm in front of the judge and even be questioned by the judge directly, but I’m proud for standing up to them.
@ejasonrichmond Жыл бұрын
Have you turned this into a business? It's needed with all the weirdos they hire as managers, these days.
@KevinBetts-ud2lq10 ай бұрын
99.9% of corporate and managers are low life scumbags
@bunk959 ай бұрын
You were harmed in what is marketed to/by you as an accident? Accidents and jobs are fictional.
@TSyoyo9 ай бұрын
Mind sharing what happened when you got hurt and the extent of your injuries? Im really curious.. wouldnt mind knowing how much you won as well.
@buckiemohawk36439 ай бұрын
I have no idea how these idiots get hired as managers@@ejasonrichmond
@bigburdi Жыл бұрын
As a business owner I appreciate your videos, I do not want my HR department to fall into the trap of protecting the company at the cost of its people, you are helping me to see where those temptations and pitfalls exist. If I can help steer my HR staff toward a more caring and legal ethic as a result of what I learn here than many people will win as a result. We work hard to create an attractive culture for our employees, I'd hate to see all that work undone by some of these practices I hear about from your content. Thank you sir.
@braniganrobertsonlaw Жыл бұрын
Hey... thank you so much for the comment. I appreciate the nice words! Believe it or not, a lot of business owners watch my stuff. I'm glad.
@tbirdddd5818 Жыл бұрын
You should get rid of HR, and give the wages to your people doing the work… solving both the write up issue and the ethical issue.
@tbirdddd5818 Жыл бұрын
@Drew Thorne that’s a lot of mumbo jumbo to say “I can’t find confident adults to work for me”
@tbirdddd5818 Жыл бұрын
@Drew Thorne it probably has something to do with pay scale… lmao
@overclucker Жыл бұрын
@@tbirdddd5818 I'm not convinced that pay scales with competence. My contemporary experience shows that incompetence is the default setting, and I consider myself to be in the middle of the pack. Because of smartphones, introspection is at an all time low. People don't spend much time thinking about morality or ethics. Life is also more difficult right now, which makes bad decisions easier; this goes for employers as well as employees.
@backdraft533 жыл бұрын
I was written up a few years ago by a new supervisor that clearly had it in for me. I wrote a rebuttal copying in the supervisor and the head of the company. I clearly explained why I was writing the rebuttal with all the pertinent facts. Within five minutes I received an email from this supervisor saying she would like a meeting with me on ways I can improve my performance. When the time for the meeting came she came out into the hallway and stated that the meeting was not necessary anymore. I am sure someone updated her on the whatnots of a rebuttal letter. Anyway, these events prompted me to start looking for a job which I had within a week and it is a much, much better job.
@dmc0015 Жыл бұрын
Good for you! I’m a business owner and stories like this make my skin crawl. In my experience there are managers who don’t understand what a leader is.
@debgib007 Жыл бұрын
Good luck. I enjoyed reading your message.
@the_expidition427 Жыл бұрын
@@dmc0015 There is a difference between bad management and bad leadership. Some are excellent at managing not leading the nuance is subtle except noticeable when encountering bad leadership it's not so much as working with as it is encounters
@dmc0015 Жыл бұрын
@@the_expidition427 I appreciate the feedback! In my experience, bad leadership filters down from the top. I’d be fibbing if I claimed that I haven’t been a poor leader at times in my professional development.
@TheBison._. Жыл бұрын
When I was 16 I got an illegitimate write up because the assistant manager messed up and wanted to blame it on me, so I refused to sign it and took it up with the main manager with my side of the story. I ended up vindicated. I guess the moral of the story is to always stand your ground and explain yourself and don’t let people at work take advantage of you, because they always will.
@DovidM Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It is important to stand up for yourself, and to realize that no job is worth the aggravation. The assistant manager was, I assume, someone who reported to the main manager. A manager will tend to side with someone they directly supervise, and you’re lucky that the main manager listened to you. In most cases, managers would rather pretend that their direct report is not at fault since that would reflect on them.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Exactly, people want to cower down to management, no, you need to stand up to them and show them they cannot just do whatever they feel like just because they have a position of authority, that seemingly went to their head....those are the people who shouldn't be managers.
@clamhammer246311 ай бұрын
I disagree. It may have worked out in that once case but you don't always need to die on every hill that you ascend.
@robertmartin260410 ай бұрын
Great video! Particularly #9 & #11. I am an engineer and my boss went the written warning route out of the blue. I did as you listed and addressed each complaint in a well written formal letter. I also included in the letter my desire to continue employment wit the company and requested that my boss, HR and myself meet weekly to discuss progress or lack there of. Sure enough my boss blew off the weekly meetings after 2 weeks and HR and I met anyway. After about 6 weeks it became clear to HR who the problem person was and this individual was terminated 2 months later. A written positive response to the complaint and constant follow up was my savior and resulted in the termination of the incompetent manager.
@cateclism3163 жыл бұрын
I was written up on my first full-time job after my first three months. I was never told my job performance was lacking and it made me really angry. I think bosses should address issues long before it becomes a blot on your employee record.
@candycane17443 жыл бұрын
HR literally told me the same thing and gave me a write bc i have "3 complaints on me" yet they were never mentioned before I got a stack of complaints on me just bc i refused to do something without proper training
@EricLamar872 жыл бұрын
3 months sounds like probation. They usually can get rid of u for no reason during that time.
@ec50182 жыл бұрын
I agree my former employer who I am currently seeking wrongful termination against wrote me up without there being consistencies. I did sign but thats because at the time I didnt think it was going to backfire on me later on but the seperations were not related to the write up but it was used against me as part of " issues " I had in the past.
@zardoz7900 Жыл бұрын
Many times they fire people before the 90 day mark when you're supposed to get benefits. Rehash people like that.
@tuvoca825 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@concepcionledezma50273 жыл бұрын
Here's my story (as briefly as possible). At the public high school where I had just transferred to, I (along with other experienced, competent teachers) were targeted for poor performance -- around the first 2 weeks of school, and it got worse after that. I'll speak for myself now, at the time a 20+ teaching veteran. Before the actual first week of classes, my immediate administrator/supervisor was already saying to me that she was "disappointed in me" and it was downhill from there. There were constant observations, constant meetings, constant (bogus) documentations, and lies. I was "bold enough" to refuse to sign the observation sheets. Union did nothing; a union rep from another school told me "they're trying to fire you." I was trapped, unable to transfer. Surprisingly, an HR employee ended up giving me this unofficial, clandestine advice: "Take a personal leave of absence (before this early evaluation kicks in), and run." I took the leave of absence one-fourth into the school year (in Nov.). I moved away (in the same state) and resumed my career; thankfully, I'm thriving in a rural setting. It can be that cold and evil!
@cd4playa12452 жыл бұрын
It almost sounds like they were trying to get you to quit so you couldn’t then file for unemployment
@adadzhafarova12952 жыл бұрын
I am now in the same shoes. I am the infant teacher for bog corporation for 28+years.They on the way to do to me the same.
@ppumpkin3282 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you fired yourself before, they fired you. And then you got another job.
@childfreesingleandatheist8899 Жыл бұрын
In what state do you teach? I’m in Texas. After you’re done with your 2 or 3 year probationary contract, you get a term contract. They just can’t fire you like that. You’re entitled to a hearing in front of the board (if that really helps and present your case). Also you would be put on a “growth plan” which is just bullshit. Where I’m at, teachers get fired because they broke the law big time or something like that. Not because some administrator thinks you don’t teach well.
@demondogmom7221 Жыл бұрын
One of my nightmare managers would take personal or medical leave of absence when it was apparent her bad behavior was catching up to her. It usually lasted about 6 months, in which time the person complaining was gone OR she'd take another position in the company. She had been with the company for ages and was VERY smart about how things worked. She was also a total psycho.. honestly I think she was bipolar and unmedicated.
@breatheliveandthrive74043 жыл бұрын
1. start looking for a new job. 2. Play their game. If it feels like it is a case build up to justify your termination and evade monetary accountabilities, make the process long and hard for them. Like a chewing gum sticking on their hair! 3. If they couldn't put up with it, then bargain for severance pay in exchange for you voluntary resignation. 4. If all else fail, go over their heads by sending email to the investor or the owner of the company.Spill the beans along with the documents that prove their allegation is false. The reply would be the best proof for your new employer that you were disgracefully dismissed without cause. Speaking on my personal experience on the matter.
@MrHellsing1055 Жыл бұрын
Got a written warning with a performance improvement plan. Please pray for me I saw “ termination “ as an option if they do not like my performance at end of the month, and I need this career at the moment.
@lao82775 ай бұрын
Do the best you can and leave the rest take care of itself. You got it!
@supertal2443 ай бұрын
God will open a new door.
@mine819421 күн бұрын
Howd it go?
@roninmantis7584 Жыл бұрын
I wish I would have found your videos earlier in my career. Thank you for taking the time to outline how to react to a negative situation.
@ericp8834 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was in corporate management for too long, I can tell you that, in my experience, managers are pressured to write people up for anything and everything. If we had no write-ups in a month, we were questioned as to why.
@b.davila136 Жыл бұрын
That is sad coming from the company.
@ericp8834 Жыл бұрын
@@b.davila136 One of the many reasons I got out.
@c.san.8751 Жыл бұрын
Collapse of modern society. Anyone who has studied history can see that things are bad and going to get worse.
@vanillacokejunky Жыл бұрын
That sounds like an awful company to work for.
@robertmartin260410 ай бұрын
I agree, one company I worked for as a manager had the HR director complaining to me that my write ups for employees was below the company average. I simply stated that my crew was above average for the company which did not put me in a good light with the HR director.
@DB-pk3tj Жыл бұрын
I was a GM if a pizza restaurant. I was trained and instructed in writing people up for the almost exclusive reason to protect the company and not give unemployment compensation. It's sad but true.
@kyleroberts1276 Жыл бұрын
You can still get unemployment.
@saiayincoby4675 Жыл бұрын
@@kyleroberts1276 not from the company
@fmcg5364 Жыл бұрын
Worked for EDD and I could not believe what I would hear from the manager, people were at the company 4 or 5 years, new manager comes in and then employee is put on a performance plan, I could just many of these people were targeted by their new manager
@cyu601 Жыл бұрын
A writeup is the beginnings of a case file against you. They want to have documentation so you cannot sue them for wrongful termination. They are looking to axe you, and you should be looking for a way out!
@faub3282 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@hwoarang2001 Жыл бұрын
That’s what happened to a colleague. His kids were having medical issues and the ceo didn’t care so he made every little thing into a big problem and wrote him up for going over the daily lunch allowance. I told him start looking because the place is toxic. He found a new job as they were secretly interviewing for another person to take his role. He gave his notice and they told him to gtfo and paid him for the rest of the month.
@philp5432 Жыл бұрын
The write up is a continuation of a process trying to change an employee’s bad behavior. Coaching didn’t solve the problem so counseling is the next step in the progressive discipline process.
@JoshuaRoberts333 Жыл бұрын
I would say that depends on the workplace, but you should document any negative actions by management regardless. Especially if there is any discrimination involved
@kyleroberts1276 Жыл бұрын
You can still technically sue, if you yourself have documented proof that would call the validity of these write ups into play. So if they start documenting you, you need to start documenting them. Because many companies will resort to unethical/fraudulent activity just to get you out.
@seanb15887 ай бұрын
I am a union shop steward and this is EXCELLENT advice!
@SubversiveInnkeeper Жыл бұрын
I worked at a big box store many years ago. Management gave me a write-up for not completing a project assigned to me in a binder. Said binder was apparently in a drawer in the back of the department. I said I was unaware of the binder's existence since I was not shown it when I was being trained and coworkers never discussed it, and had I known about the project I would have happily completed it. They responded by saying "you should know the department." Essentially I was punished for not knowing something existed even though I was never shown it and coworkers never discussed it since apparently it wasn't a big deal to anyone in the department.
@jtandrews3 Жыл бұрын
My boss spoke to me one-on-one and told me my performance wasn't exceeding expectations. I was only meeting expectations, and that the expectation was to exceed expectations. A few years and a couple bosses later I think I figured out that he was trying to tell me in code that because I was salaried, he expected some significant overtime from me.
@azerdraco3146 Жыл бұрын
I have had a supervisor try to play that game with me. Them: "Our expectation is that you exceed expectations. At this time your are only meeting expectations." Me: "So I am meeting your expectations." Them: "Yes, but we expect you to exceed those expectations." Me: "So in meeting your expectations, I would be exceeding your expectations, since you have stated that I am meeting your expectations." Do that in different phrasing for about 5 minutes ... at the end, both the supervisor and the manager that walked in could barely think straight. Sometimes what sounds really awe-inspiring in your head turns out to be a giant pile of 💩 when you actually start saying it. In the end, everyone present agreed that it was better if the entire episode was filed as a "Skills Improvement Meeting" and have it filed as a positive feedback.
@zackthebongripper7274 Жыл бұрын
The "speaking in code" is infuriating. This another reason why people are quiet quitting or staying out of the labor market. Work is toxic.
@Said_w_the_G Жыл бұрын
You should have said that your salary only meets your expectations, so when they are ready to exceed your expectations you can return the favor…
@jwreagan Жыл бұрын
@@Said_w_the_G I love the use and abuse of logic... especially when most midlevel managers are not the brightest crayon in the box.
@YoungBison Жыл бұрын
I remember working for a company that had warning write-ups. They would write you up for something they couldn't actually write you up for and then remove the write-up after a couple days. For example I was written up for not staying late to do the jobs of other people six different times. But they couldn't actually fire me for working my schedule so they'd give these write-ups to bluff me. Needless to say I decided to be a royal pain by doing everything exactly as the company stated so I couldn't get in trouble but following rules as written made management angry
@stevemiller9135 Жыл бұрын
The hypocrisy is laughable. I have seen this time and time again. If the money is rolling in, then they want you to work all the overtime you can handle. But when they have one of their budget meetings, and they need to cut corners, the first thing they do is tell everyone, "No more overtime." Then if you do some overtime to finish the job at hand, they will begin to threaten you when they see overtime on your time card. I have seen it get so bad that managers have to approve overtime before hand and will initial your time card. But if you punch out at the end of your 8 hours and a customer was left unattended, you will most likely see a write up because you left.
@ninjabeatz905 Жыл бұрын
We call that patting the dog
@earthlycolorbrown6246 Жыл бұрын
You should have sued.
@DovidM Жыл бұрын
@@stevemiller9135When money is tight, they will say no one gets overtime. However, when something’s broken, and they need it fixed, they ask six or seven people to continue working until it’s resolved. Of course, since there’s no overtime being paid, all they do to comp you is give the group a box of donuts. Big whoop!
@trees137 Жыл бұрын
I've been written up, and the blatant lies coming out my supervisors mouth was mind-boggling.
@outchea1044 Жыл бұрын
They are so evil
@owieprone9 ай бұрын
Same, and HR's stance that this wasn't the 'forum' to ask why I was being told things, where their proof was, how what they were saying contradicted verbal praise and appraisal feed back from my colleagues, other depts, being gaslit (wasn't really a term back then) - utterly baffling.
@therealfronzilla8 ай бұрын
It is absolutely surreal when you are seeing/hearing your manager lie about you.
@fuel4insanity67 ай бұрын
Had that happen to me twice in different companies. Didn't tolerate it .and quit on the spot on both of those. If you got a toxic manager/ owner....it's time to leave.
@user-wi9hv2pb2q6 ай бұрын
I'm currently getting written up, as the lowest level supervisor, for handling correctly the situation 4 levels of higher management passed on. I wrote, at my 2 step higher bosses', a deputy chief, request, the report for one of my coworkers literally running over a subordinate in the lot. Since the stance the company is taking is that it didn't happen, despite the ambulance hospital doctor etc they have bullied the employee into thinking she's in trouble. so now im in trouble for filing the paperwork. my eeo office said it wasn't retaliation after my boss, captain,, said 'this is for filing the ---" At some point you have to just quit. I'd have quit sooner but I had my arm broken at work. so now I can never do this job again (911 response) and I've had to pay every medical bill etc because once again, despite the person being arrested, it 'just doesn't have merit.' I mean people are getting permanently injured and assaulted and the legal system just can give a rat's behind.
@wraithrunner2355 Жыл бұрын
I think the point than everybody's missing at this stage is if you have to fight this much to keep a job then it's not a job worth keeping. An employee should not have to be looking over their shoulder 24/7 just to keep a job there are too many jobs out there that you will enjoy working at and where you would be treated properly with respect and dignity and appreciation. And that being said businesses and companies need to stop and reflect on this because there are thousands of other crappy jobs out there that people can find leaving your company's short-staffed so if you want to try and keep your bottom-line I suggest you start treating your employees better so you can actually retain them and get better work from them
@GrizzyLatrizzy Жыл бұрын
Former boss at my former job (I was a team lead in a busy office) would write me up for trivial things things over the span of 8 years. We clashed on ways of running the business, and he was always trying to knock me down a peg. I was more hands-on and in-the-trenches like the "regular" employees than management. I ended up outlasting his tenure at the company. Things were great, but they outsourced management to Central America. I put in my two weeks notice after a year of that nonsense. Oh, BTW, never signed a single write up.
@hackysackmonster Жыл бұрын
I've been written up twice in my life so far. The first was from the best manager I've ever worked for. Sort of odd to say that after a write up, but she was the best manager I've ever had. I learned so much from her, what to expect from good leadership that genuinely wants the best of her staff and lead us to hold the number one rank in our entire company for over a year before she was promoted out. The second write up was quite the opposite, it was from a toxic insecure manager who had it out for me. To this day I still don't understand why she targeted me. I fought the write up and argued my cases but eventually caved and signed, thinking it was all down hill from here. To my surprise it got better for me, as all the other managers knew I was a good worker and stopped helping her, my fellow staff members became cold towards her and all she could do was hide in the office till she transferred to another office, saying she was getting promoted into a lead buyer position. We later found out she was the lead buyers Assistant and took a massive pay cut to escape her mistake. She eventually left the company all together.
@nextlevelbricks7334 Жыл бұрын
I have only ever been written up once in all my life, here is the story of how I was accused of sexual harassment and how I was able to overcome it: Background: Managers were new to the role, regional office, first couple years of my career, early 2000's when cellphones were just starting to come out. Scenario: during an internal interview, I was blindsided when accusations of sexual harassment were brought up out of left field. No touching or sexual conversations had occurred, I had simply asked a female coworker to hang out over text. This text took place outside of work hours, and I had been speaking with this female employee for months with reciprocated responses. During the initial conversation, HR was not present, it seemed very informal, and I immediately wanted to appoligize to the individual but was given strict instruction not to speak to her... this becomes pivotal later on. I was then told to leave work for the day. One of the following days I was presented with a writeup where an HR rep was present for the first time and appeared to have no clue what the scenario was. I was made to feel almost forced to sign the document on the spot, but luckily thr HR rep clued in to the aggressive tactics and stopped me and told me that I had the right to take the document home and respond after thinking it through. I spent the night writing a full page response explaining the many interactions this coworker and I had over the months, and how I had no intention of making her feel harassed and that I had wanted to appoligize to set things right. I stapled this response to the original writeup, and signed the document stating that I was only signing to state I had recieved the writeup but did not agree and that my response was stapled as attached. Twist: a couple years later in the same organization but in different roles, I found myself in a position where that very same female was also in a new role and needed to work directly with me 1 on 1 between our departments. This required us to travel to islands via a ferry and spend entire day trips together as these were remote locations. I was always on guard, but the longer this working relationship extended, the more all my coworkers would comment how she would be obviously flirtatious dressing up in more enticing ways around me. It carried on so much that when other coworkers were unable to reach her via phone, they would use my desk phone and she would immediately pick up. One day in my presence, her manager called her and told us to return back to the office, where she was laid off. After she was no longer employed, since we kept communication open, I asked what happened many years ago during the sexual harassment accusations. She told me that she never brought forth the accusation, and when asked to make a statement she refused to and wanted no part in the sexual harassment complaint. She had simply showed another coworker the text because she was excited, and someone oversaw. She was also instructed that she was not to communicate with me, and feared for her job at the time. Aftermath: I still work for the company, 17 years and counting, have made many advancements in my career, have been promoted relocated and now work in the corporate division. Two of the managers involved have been exited for unrelated reasons throughout the years, and the primary manager that helped fabricate this accusation is someone who has unfortunately made it to the corporate division aswell. We have both never spoken about the incident, and as we have projects thats overlap we have found ways to have our teams work together..., but I've always felt like I've held an ace in my pocket against him ever since. I wish I saw this video sooner in my career, and am thanking my lucky stars that I handled the writeup in a very similar fashion to that which you described. Thank you for spreading the knowledge
@unknownkingdom Жыл бұрын
Then everyone clapped
@jaydenp4975 Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely correct that allegations of harassment or bullying can be reported by a 3 rd coworker. For example if two employees are talking about one of their hot dates they had the night before and talk about intimate things the other employee could report it. Trust NO coworkers. You think they are the friend but will then easily. People get way too involved at work.
@jujackmarketing3 жыл бұрын
Please keep in mind that a boss can also be fired. The boss or supervisor is not immune to a performance review ALSO! 💥🔥💥🔥💥
@democracyjusticegod4042 жыл бұрын
@James McPherson My boss also did same, to establish himself, he worked on Divide & Rule and Replicate-Replace-Throw. He power-pampered a junior trainee Girl by too much resources and cornered me by keeping me unequipped from same resorce, assigned work such we that I had to borrow that tool when she is using, created disagreements among us, exaggeration is her operational disagreement was presented by manager as grave concern might lead POSH, my operational/technical disagreement was presented by manager as lack of Collaboration...! Fighting & winning was easy... I did back end, and switched. he hired a junior girl as shadow resource behind me. To establish himself as Management Leadership against my Functional Leadership in my Dept, started Power-Pampering to junior & Cornering to me.
@princessmarlena1359 Жыл бұрын
Good luck with that, especially if they are a major brown nose or someone’s relative.
@Kudeghraw Жыл бұрын
They are protected though. You don't get to be a boss or a manager unless you have a proven track record of working 100+ hour weeks, making the hourly equivalent of your 6 figure salary less than minimum wage. The reward is being handed a team to do the work for you that you can hire and fire at will. They will take the hit if anything goes wrong, but you get all the glory if things go right. That is called getting on the right side of HR. Like completing a raid and defeating the final boss, HR, and getting rewarded with armor with stats protecting you from critical hits. The armor is just your scapegoats...I mean subordinates.
@BrianWoodruff-Jr Жыл бұрын
My boss can't be fired; he owns the business.
@dons8122 Жыл бұрын
Well unless they are the owner or the owners family then yeah good luck on that part
@bc454irocz89 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel, as a Union Steward at my workplace I've found your videos very helpful at defending my coworkers
@jacalynstaten56075 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this particular segment. I got written up for not attending a mandatory meeting that was never described or documented as a mandatory meeting. I planned to scorch the earth but luckily I came across this post. I replied in a respectful way which was essentially now that I know this meeting is mandatory I will be attending. Just know that you saved me from making things worse.
@darliana253 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I found him. Well, I responded by sending my letter to hr and quit. The manager write me up during pandemic. Too much stress.
@sherylsalazar48223 жыл бұрын
They dont care about employees
@wellwellmymichelle3 жыл бұрын
What dod ypit letter say
@matthewtorok-smith19673 жыл бұрын
@@sherylsalazar4822 no they don't whatsoever!
@matthewtorok-smith19673 жыл бұрын
@@Gulpathfinder some bosses are on a real power trip. Like one I had didn’t write me up but pulled me to the office three times and shouted his lungs off at me!
@matthewtorok-smith19673 жыл бұрын
@@Gulpathfinder oh I did. Not working there anymore. Hated the job even before the episodes with that boss happened.
@judesnana3 жыл бұрын
I had worked at this company for 27 years. My supervisor retired and they hired someone with little experience and no certification in the field that she was supervising. She felt very intimidated by my years of experience after she was required to get training and certification. She started to write me up for things like, how I sounded when I spoke. Tried to talk to her about what the real problem was and things got worse. I went from rating exemplary and exceeds expectations in my reviews with previous supervisors. In the last 5 years that she was supervisor, my ratings dropped every year. For the last 3 years, I was rated inconsistent and did not receive any raise. When I spoke to HR, stating retaliation, they said they would look into it. Needless to say, there are no rules to being written up. I gave up the fight.
@ThomasSDavis-mc9of Жыл бұрын
Invest, protect yourself and be ready to jump ship, if needed. Be on your side, not the company's.
@stevemiller9135 Жыл бұрын
A company is just like the gov't. Once you have a target on your back, it's curtains. And the larger the company, the worse it gets. Clearly, HR is just a protection safe guard for upper management. Once they all get together in one of their "upper management" meetings and the meeting is about you, you're done. They collude together and protect one another. One of their favorite sayings is that your an "at will" employee. In other words, they don't need a reason for anything. Best advice is start your own business and work for yourself!
@brigittavesei4796 Жыл бұрын
@@stevemiller9135 not everyone is comfortable or has the skill set for being an entrepreneur. Nor are they able to jump into freelancing, and the self-marketing that entails. (In some fields it isn't possible -- a freelancing librarian? Or freelancing bank teller?) On the other hand, unless you live in a rural environment, there are usually plenty of other, better job opportunities. The advice in the presentation about starting looking for another job is the one I followed in my career, and it always led me to a better position and for better pay. If you look for and find a position before being fired, you are in a better position for finding that next job and won't have any awkward unemployed periods to explain on your resume.
@the_expidition427 Жыл бұрын
@@stevemiller9135 A thing to be mindful of is a floor level manager is another employee HR protects the company from all of its employees low to mid-senior management it would axe off some of its bad leadership in different appendages to keep going
@stevemiller9135 Жыл бұрын
@@the_expidition427 Just remember this: Companies will always hire those who CAN'T to watch over those of us who CAN. It's kind of like how the military does it. Why did that dunce get promoted to Corporal and I'm still a Private? That guy is useless! Ever hear guys say things like that? Companies are just like the military, they will promote useless turds because they don't want to lose their good soldiers just like a company doesn't want to lose it's most productive workers. When I was working for a living at my last job, I was doing the work of 3 people. Never was promoted, never was even asked. Even when I was offered another job within the company, I was still doing my old job, PLUS my new job. I only did that for about 2 years. Then the company was sold, and was doing my old job once again. The low level position was where the money was made. Managers don't make money. The low level employees are out making the money for the company, doing all the work to make the revenue. Managers just sit at a desk, shuffle papers, play on a computer, and spend more time trying to LOOK busy, rather than actually accomplishing anything useful. It gets really bad when they leave their desks and begin to try and find fault with all of the employees who are out there busting their humps making the real money for the company. That's when the write ups begin, and the company morale sinks to an all time low. Naturally, the upper management twits will scratch their heads and act like they can't understand what's going on. It's so laughable.
@angelaeason71813 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I was given a PIP (Personal Improvement Plan). Which is a precursor to a write-up. One of the many mangers I have had forgot to edit my time to reflect me working. I was accused of things that were frivolous along with stealing company time, which was an accusation and never proved. All things to cover themselves. I admitted to my poor attitude, I also stressed that not being spoke to and Management mistreating me is not ok either. I was told by upper management that I could find another job and needed to figure out if I wanted to stay. I listened, the management and I improved our work relationship. I am still at the same job (7years now) and haven't never been in trouble afterwards. I still have difficulty with co-workers and find these videos to be a lifesaver. I feel being prepared is the best practice. Thanks
@nickf9392 Жыл бұрын
Nine out of ten times it has nothing to do with your work performance, but more to do with a boss who is intimidated by your ability. When you have more skills and experience than you boss (who has zero ability) you will be a threat to them. And they will use these steps to cover their ass while they prepare to dispose of you.
@Barada73 Жыл бұрын
I received a write up at work because my manager is not trained in my job and I got written up for “arguing” with her when I corrected a misconception she had about my job. As I watch this video I realize that I made some critical errors in my response to that write up, but I’ve already decided to go with recommendation #12 on your list anyway. I wish I had seen this video a couple of weeks ago, but it’s still extremely useful information. Thank you!
@user-wh5ir4fo4r Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have been written up for that. Ridiculous company.
@hogie13eire862 жыл бұрын
I was accused of sexual harassment and the company blocked my attempts to defend myself. When I discovered the allegations against me had been leaked in the workplace I demanded a meeting with the accuser and as a result I was suspended for nearly two years. I requested to be transferred and then lost my seniority and had my wages reduced because I had complained. I didn’t realise at the time that this was victimisation for making complaints and I resigned. I have filed a lawsuit and now know that I absolutely made the right decision. If I had stayed with the company and accepted being demoted I would have been eventually fired or forced to resign and would not have been able to prove discrimination then.
@princessmarlena1359 Жыл бұрын
Jesus, I wouldn’t blame you for going back to punch the clock with a .45, wow…
@thumper84 Жыл бұрын
Just tell them her ass is 2 words.
@the_expidition427 Жыл бұрын
Victimization for making complaints noting that one down
@jamesadkins7229 Жыл бұрын
I was injured during my employment in a specific job. During "accommodations" they placed me in a job that I had no previous experience, with lower pay and not a chance of ever getting promoted. After 6 months my first performance report was basically a write up (set up). It was the worst performance report of my life. I know that it was meant to illicit a negative response from me. And my supervisor had another supervisor listen at the doorway to my verbal responses. I did not cuss, but voiced my concerns that I was being set up to be fired. Both their written statements went up the chain. I ultimately retired due to medical conditions, but still feel jaded about it. If placed in this situation, record the conversation and replay it for an attorney. They can give you options. I could have filed with EEO, but just wanted to leave the toxic place. Thank God, I'm better off today.
@chessnord7934 Жыл бұрын
Do #12 FIRST. Start looking for a job FIRST. Also if you did screw up - ensure to take the corrective actions and learn from the issue BEFORE taking the new job. This adds experience and growth but do still look for another job.
@brigittavesei4796 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Sometimes the writeup, however unfairly or ineptly it may have been handled, does reflect a kernel of truth, and you owe it to yourself to do some self-examination. Move on to another job, but also resolve to do better next time.
@nachos1162 Жыл бұрын
One time I got a write up for only having given 22 hours notice I'd have to come in an hour late the next day as opposed to 24 hours notice. I looked at the write up and just went "I'm not signing that" and my boss questioned it and I go "nobody ever mentioned this, employee handbooks here are not easily accessible, and in the 4 years I've worked here this has never been an issue, I gave plenty of notice, and it's not even me not coming in, it was me telling you I had to be an hour late. Now, if I had called in an hour before work and said I'd be in late, sure, but I'm not signing this and I'm insulted that you would even think this is OK to write me up over."
@no_regerts5176 Жыл бұрын
For performance issues, I do everything I can to help someone meet expectations before any kind of paper. “Accountability” is a blunt force tool.
@bretttoombs246510 ай бұрын
And who holds you accountable? Why are managers immune to meeting expectations?
@SearchIndex7 ай бұрын
@@bretttoombs2465 Watch the movie “The Founder” about the McDonalds restaurant chain
@BrianGay57 Жыл бұрын
Having a union helps a LOT with such issues. It can help protect one from abuse by management.
@AP-mf4fz Жыл бұрын
Or get them fired quicker. When I worked for the largest producer of meat In the United States, the union reps where sleeping with the managers....maintenance, cafeteria workers, hell you name it. Yeah a union CAN be good, but they can also be as corrupt as anyone else.
@samehmke3396 Жыл бұрын
I work in a union based job and I'm still learning what they can do if I ever get a write up
@Frank020 Жыл бұрын
In my case the Union investigators, doing the questioning, took the other man's side. Careful with these guys, because they have to pin guilt on one or, the other. Don't go through mediation, they are not lawyers and care only about the Union and their relationship with the organization.
@kirkwoodbharris5110 Жыл бұрын
I was written up after I requested 2 weeks of PTO. I hadn't taken any days off for the past year and my team knew of my trip months in advance, however in all my planning I forgot to submit the formal request until 2 weeks before the trip. The requested time off was in Aug during our slowest time of the year (I had a family reunion in Canada). I had also been covering for another team member who quit 6 months prior and had written a manifesto against my boss on his way out. My boss said he couldn't approve my PTO request due to my unsatisfactory performance (despite having a satisfactory performance review earlier in the year). I responded to each item in his bogus write up with several examples and reports countering his conjectured opinion. I went on my vacation and was terminated for job abandonment after 2 days. I came home to a FedEx box of all my belongings, although they never actually notified me so I went into the office at which time they realized they totally botched my termination...they are a subsidiary of reputable company but a lost cause...no regrets for leaving but I probably could have threatened a lawsuit, or at least a workers comp claim for stress
@jaydenp4975 Жыл бұрын
Get legal advice ASAP
@DiegoHernandez-xc5fv3 жыл бұрын
I got written up at little ceasers I could care less 😂
@sandrapsalms91583 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😆 you made me laugh oh my goodness 🤣😆😂
@maverickhistorian6488 Жыл бұрын
All you have to do is make sure you toe the line, but be passive aggressive and exploit and manipulate them as much as possible! Be one step ahead and put your own scruples aside, whilst inflicting as much havoc as humanly possible. 👺
@elyseparker5333 Жыл бұрын
So much of this is easier said than done. I wasn't written up, but I was chastised for a bunch of vague things, then called back in a few weeks later to berate me again. Keeping my cool did not happen. I quit in December, 2-ish months ago 😁
@AuthorLHollingsworth Жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@blackluxury558510 ай бұрын
I just had a conversation with my supervisor about me not following my hybrid schedule accordingly. It was justified and all I could say was thank you for having the talk and that I will do better going forward
@johnpapa8681 Жыл бұрын
I was never written up, but anytime my boss came to me with some boggus problem, I always said, "ok, well, I appreciate the job, but if you aren't happy with me, then I'll just move on". Surprisingly, they assured me there was no problem, and ended up begging me to stay, one of them offered me a $5 per hour raise!! I refuse to waste my life trying to work for someone who doesn't appreciate me.
@flilguy2 жыл бұрын
I was written up at my last job back in 1995. It had been around 3 years of an unpleasant workplace. I felt they were moving the gaslighting into writing. After receiving the notice I contacted HR and told them my side of the story. I also stated that I had begun looking for a different job. I may not be able to put in my customary 2-week notice when I leave. I don't know what I would have done if I didn't find a different job that week. I sure don't miss the old job and would never go back. The place went out of business about 5 years after I left. Ironically all of my supervisors were gone within two years of my leaving. The building was also full of black mold so I don't want to work there.
@wilsonle61 Жыл бұрын
I was threatened with being written up at work. But, I had not violated any rule, policy, or verbal directive. It was my boss that had screwed the pooch (so to speak). When my boss threatened to write me up for the alleged infraction, I told her that if she so much as put a pen to paper I was walking out the back door immediately full stop. Now my kids are grown, I have money put away, and I am the only IT guy for a large two-branch library system. So having had to just suck these things up in the past, it was great to stand on principle and have the trump card so to speak. They backed off immediately. I am still here doing my IT thing and my Boss is long gone!
@maverickhistorian6488 Жыл бұрын
I was just twenty years of age, when my boss started to harass me. He was thick as shit, so I started to play some serious mind games with him, playing strictly by rules but being as deviant as I possibly could. 😁
@CP-xu5yv Жыл бұрын
Lol I saw the flight suit and figured it'd be some AF bs. Dealing with LOCs/LORs for sure helped me prepare for this bs
@wilsonle61 Жыл бұрын
@@CP-xu5yv Yea, when I was in the military and then when I got out and had small kids, a mortgage, etc. My options were limited and I had to eat a lot of shit to pay the bills. No more!
@aubreymorgan9763 Жыл бұрын
i seem to have poor health and call out sick to work frequently. 8/10 times i do have dr note but if its just one day sometimes I won't get one. also have to call out sometimes in winter due to poor road conditions, apparently its a pet peeve of my manager; if there's a blizzard she expects you in. I got a verbal warning maybe twice, then 2 write ups over 6 months. last write up my supervisor actually mocked me for being sick, saying i never tell her what i have (i don't HAVE TO). I'm looking for another job, at least one that is work from home. If i'm sick I often can still work but the full action of going into an office is exhausting when i'm not well.
@emilyl83887 ай бұрын
Just came across this video and it provides a lot of insight especially within the eyes of the management. Through my experience in management I’ve learned that correcting an employee’s behavior relies on them and if they’re willing to change and grow in their roles. Us as managers can only do so much to reset expectations and if those expectations aren’t met further action unfortunately has to be taken.
@sawyerramos3113 Жыл бұрын
I got a promotion, 3 weeks later I was diagnosed with cancer. Had to be excused from training for 3 weeks to undergo surgery. Came back, was not offered make up sessions, was expected to perform as the rest of the class. Was sent to the floor, and was ready to be written up within days of me getting transferred out of that department. I work for a really good company, but this department sets ppl up. true story.
@braniganrobertsonlaw Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, this is a very common story.
@lowenkarnes5959 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like united health care
@sawyerramos3113 Жыл бұрын
@@lowenkarnes5959 LOL its not.
@Tatted_Berto2 жыл бұрын
I needed this badly ! Thank you because if I didn’t watch this tomorrow May be my last day, but now I know what to do
@JohnSm9267 ай бұрын
I just came across this channel and this is very insightful. Everything here makes so much sense, and I think this applies in most aspects in life. Whether you’re at work or not, the first tip is a must. Generally, when someone is challenging you, be calm.
@sucyshi Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad most of the companies I've worked for weren't smart enough to do write ups or keep files on employees. It made it really easy for me to prove my case to the labor commissioner about their obvious sexual discrimination when I had evidence and they literally had no employee file. I'd rather have not needed to queue up for court or even have worked for them in the first place, but at least they made justice easy
@matthewjuarbe5826 Жыл бұрын
in my state they can fire you without the need to give reason which is easier then to leave a paper trail worth of bogus write ups.
@michaelwinter742 Жыл бұрын
I was once written up for not displaying company policy in a large enough font on my wall. It wasn’t a policy to post this policy and nobody else did. I did it as a courtesy because people I interacted with needed it referenced often. It had been 28 point font. So, I printed and assembled a comically huge font/poster and put it on my wall. I then took a photo and emailed it to my boss asking if I was now in compliance. Also, I started looking for jobs.
@jaydenp4975 Жыл бұрын
That is horrible. Wow. That sounds like a crappy place to work. Print one in 150 font and decorate it with Christmas lights before you walk out. 🤬
@dwaynenewton1 Жыл бұрын
I was written up just because somebody complained I was taking too long for lunch. Policy stated I had to take 30 minutes to an hour for lunch. It didn't state I couldn't take longer. Also knew a guy who told off a manager who wanted him to work past the end of his shift. Manager wanted him to sign termination papers for insubordination. He said he wasn't signing it and went back to work.
@Wahinies Жыл бұрын
Same here. Management claimed "your peers are complaining about your lack of availability." They rely on me too much for the shit take home pay.
@edwardschmitt5710 Жыл бұрын
So you actually thought you could take longer for lunch because it literally didn't say "and that's it, no more than an hour "???? You were stealing from your company.
@dwaynenewton1 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardschmitt5710 I was off the clock. All my work got done and more. It was janitorial work so it's not like I needed to be on a strict schedule. And I was using that time to nurse a foot with plantar fasciitis. The boss didn't even want to write me up. It was only because somebody complained.
@macattack9041 Жыл бұрын
30 minutes to 60 minutes, that’s pretty relaxed already and also very straightforward. I also don’t understand why you would want to sit at work off the clock I would rather not take lunch and go home 30 minutes early and yes, I have done that before,, every day for months.
@V.E.R.O. Жыл бұрын
30 minutes to an hour. To me that would indicate that I could only take between 30 minutes and one hour lunch, if it meant you could take longer it would say "between 30 minutes and as long as you want". 🤣
@lincmerc1581 Жыл бұрын
I was written up for abusing sick leave. I had a physician's excuse and they even called my doctor! I documented it ALL and set up a meeting with my supervisor, the director and the assistant director. Let's just say that the director probably needed bp medication herself after the meeting. This helped, but did not end the harrassment. On another occasion, I was called to the office. I was told there were complaints against me for not helping the Friends Of The Library when they had asked for my help. While in the director's office I asked who had complained and why. I was told, "I'm not at liberty to tell you that." At that point, I pulled out my wallet and showed her a check written to me from the Friends. The check clearly stated, "In appreciation of your service and help." That evening, I called the President Of The Friends. I was told they were ALL aware of the check because they ALL voted on the gift and it was unanimous. I retired from there with a full pension. The stress over the years contributed to a double bypass. Which goes back to me being written up for abuse of sick leave. The director was forced to retire by the Library Board and she retired one year to the Day of my retirement.
@kevinr8579 Жыл бұрын
They're not supposed to call physicians
@ericfreeman5399 Жыл бұрын
Sir, I must say that your presentation was excellently done and very helpful. Kudos to you sir.
@benjaminbailey15868 күн бұрын
One of my final write-ups before I was fired was for not getting a bottling line up and running in a timely manner. The part we needed wasn’t in the stockroom, so when the day shift lead mechanic arrived, I informed him of the issue. We went to the stockroom together, and he confirmed that the part was indeed missing. Then, he remembered that we had a similar part on an old machine stored in a warehouse with equipment no longer in use. I decided to stay over, ride with him on the golf cart to the warehouse, and cannibalize the coupling off the old machine. After removing the part, I returned to the downed machine, got it running around 7:45, and clocked out at 8:00. The very next night, I came in for my shift and was about to leave when the supervisor told me they wanted to see me in the main conference room. I walked in to find HR, all the maintenance supervisors, and my immediate supervisor waiting for me. When I asked what it was about, they explained that I was being written up for not getting the line running quickly enough. To say I was furious would be an understatement; I blacked out and had all of them red in the face. Even now, I get angry just thinking about it because it was complete and utter bs. I could see the train coming but couldn't get out the way fast enough.
@rebeccaliew2247 Жыл бұрын
Wish I had known this in 2015-2016... then again, that write-up not only pushed me out from a toxic company but pushed me to Japan, where I upgraded my language skills there, and use that new skill in a better company with better benefits & better bosses, after I came back from Japan. Short, detailed & true story as below. I was given a write-up when I reported my middle-manager to our managing director his actual work performance, which was dismal & slacking to the point we lost an influential client that time. My middle manager decided to fire me by sending me not just the write-up letter, but hire 2 OTHER Managers to sack me - to "keep his hands clean". The first one refused to do his bidding because he found no fault with my work performance, so he was promptly fired for that. The second one was more desperate to stay longer in the job & was in denial he was next to be fired by the same middle manager (which happened, after I was forced to leave). After I left, Karma went to work - the middle manager who fired me, was also terminated from his job, by the same executive director I had reported my middle manager to. My middle manager was fired for mainly, screwing another sales contract - he never learned to buckle up, due to his managerial status he took for granted. And the second secret reason he was fired was his mistress. He brought her aboard as his compensation to her, after she came to his office & told him she was pregnant with his child. He refused his child & she chose abortion afterwards. But his mistress was hired into the company, given a finance department position she has no qualifications for and was given monthly salary than is higher than average there. She left before my middle manager was fired. Some drama indeed.
@daixer3156 Жыл бұрын
All I kept reading from paragraph to paragraph was "middle 🖕" after "middle finger" haha
@kgeganjrify Жыл бұрын
I laughed every time a manager threatened me that they were going to write me up. I'd look at them and say "Oh, I'm so scared 😱." 😆
@Bruce_Fernandes11 ай бұрын
Here in Portugal, if they ever write you up, you won't know until you're being fired. You only see HR people when being hired and signing the contract. Anything else, your managers do it internally and behind your back. They are unforgiving and they know there's more people waiting on the line than positions to fill, a single action or word they didn't like and they kick you out quicker than they hired you because every single employee is nothing but expendable cannon fodder.
@janeentumbao86905 ай бұрын
I know, right?😂 Go ahead and send me to my room!😂😂😂😂😂
@kgeganjrify5 ай бұрын
@@janeentumbao8690 Then your fellow employees look at you and ask, "How in the hell are you still working here?". I get that question about twice a week.
@janeentumbao86905 ай бұрын
@@kgeganjrify The moment I realized that write ups only stay within a company and have nothing to do with life outside of that building, I just laugh it off. I mean, on our death bed, are we gonna regret getting written up for some bogus bs? Ummmmm, nah! 😄😄😄😄
@Brandiisbeloved4 ай бұрын
@@janeentumbao8690well said.
@janeraymond1799 Жыл бұрын
I worked in several toxic working environments. I am now retired. I worked in the Healthcare field all of my life. One place was so bad that I walked out, got an attorney and got unemployment.
@outchea1044 Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me the process
@eviljoshy3402 Жыл бұрын
I had a crappy job with a terrible supervisor. The supervisor hated the fact we were 2nd shift. 2pm-12:00am. So to try to get out sooner he would have us start an hour early. The problem was he would just open his office door and yell "We're starting at 1pm tomorrow". He wouldn't send an email, notify other leads or anything. Just word of mouth. I worked in a separate building a mile down the road. My crew and I would never hear of it. Then the next day we would come in at our usual time and he'd write us up for being late. Even though he never informed us. This happened on a daily basis. The way write ups worked at that job was a supervisor presented you with a paper, told you what you did wrong and you were to sign it. I, along with everyone else on my shift, refused to sign said paper. He did not notify us that we were starting early the next day. That is failure on "his" part, not mine. Then after arguing about it for several minutes he realized I wasn't going to cave in. So he signed MY name on the employee signature line. He even spelled it wrong. I pulled out my phone and proceeded to look up a lawyer. His response was epic. "You cant have your phone in here. That's another write up!" "You just forged my signature. That's a felony. I'm getting a lawyer and taking you to court". He tore up the paper and apologized. That was one of the few moments where I felt like I won at my job. The guy probably was used to getting whatever he wanted because of his position. Then he fucked with me and realized I'm not a drug addict, a convicted felon or an illegal immigrant. Meaning I'm not afraid to call the cops. lol
@paulganzenhuber9403 Жыл бұрын
As a business owner, most write-ups are for very specific things, like coming to work late repeatedly, falling asleep on the job, not wearing the proper uniform or dressing like a slob, letting certifications expire... things like that. But I agree with this fellow that write-ups can be an indication that you may be fired. If you work for me, and I have to give you a write-up because you have been late 8 times of 13 shifts in the pay period for a total of an hour and a half of time, then the write-up is simply ME giving you an opportunity to improve, not because I WANT to fire you. If you work for me and you receive a write-up, it is because you already deserve to BE fired, but I’m giving you a warning instead.
@c.san.8751 Жыл бұрын
They are often political or ideological in nature or a personal grudge.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Wish they actually wrote people up at my company for being late, but managers are the biggest part of the problem at the company I work at....the managers can't show up on time, call in all the time, not in proper uniform, etc...yet somehow think they have a right to write up a crew member for the same stuff they are doing...yeah, doesn't work that way...they also try to write up crew for till shortages, when the damn managers can't count them properly...I always told any crew I was training to never allow a manager to put that till in a register until they counted it themselves and verified it to be correct....hold the managers accountable, just because they are a manager doesn't mean they know what they are doing, and doesn't mean they did their job....can't hold your crew accountable until your managers are held to the same standards.
@cjanquart9 ай бұрын
@@wildbill23c Precisely. My current post/position has the second in command showing up about 10-15 early then comes into the front station to don duty gear and weapon just a minute or two before his start time then steps out to get a coffee and chit chat with other coworkers for 10-15 minutes. Hypocrisy in it's finest.
@MoondustManwise Жыл бұрын
I got a write up a few months back for behavior I'd done (swearing, unprofessionalism) in front of a worker who wasn't in our company so much as adjacent to it. I hadn't known at the time, but the resident I'd been attempting to discuss with was having delusions and hallucinations about me doing bad things, and so wouldn't have listened to me anyway, but I'd essentially been trying to help another employee get him out of bed for a meeting. I actually wasn't there working, I was there for a meeting at the same time, and had been trying to help, but I was heavily sleep deprived and very cranky. Needless to say, it all blew up in my face, and I got a write up for it. I didn't contest it because I actually did think it was warranted, but it still stung because parts of it were out of my control, like the very early meeting time and the resident hating my guts. I'm moving on from the company to a new job, because the company has some SERIOUS issues, but i'm gonna take the write up as a lesson learned.
@dingleberry343 жыл бұрын
Do you know any attorneys in CO? Keep the videos coming. A lot of us employees do not know our rights as employees when we are treated unfairly, what to do and how to handle it, and who to talk to beside HR. We all know HR is NOT for Employees.
@RichAnderson114 Жыл бұрын
I began working at age 14 and am now 42. I've had multiple write ups in a one year period of my life and none outside of that. Basically the general manager did not like me on a personal level (opinion reciprocated). I held on because at that company management got shuffled around frequently and I knew he wouldn't be around long. I was right about that, but he fired me three days before he transferred to another store.
@shizz_93 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you so much! I know it is general advice but it is INVALUABLE!!! I wish you all the success in the world. Helping employees via KZbin who are at a disadvantage in America is very noble
@dingleberry343 жыл бұрын
I have seen someone get FIRED for 1st time mistake. That person has never got any write up before. Management didn't follow the steps like coaching, verbal warning, write up, PIP. They just FIRED him and he is the only Minority in the group.
@ryanrogers8211 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by minority? What state were you in?
@Ben-kv7wr Жыл бұрын
I'm a union steward I have to deal with ridiculous -and justified- write-ups all the time. love the information in this video will probably send it to my membership 😂
@drmechanicalchannel7641 Жыл бұрын
I’m a union steward too. Local 32bj
@rbailey225 Жыл бұрын
The typical union postal reply to a write up is a middle finger. It takes a monumental effort to fire a postal employee. An effort most postal management is not willing to commit to due to time constraints of being short staffed. Most write ups get thrown out or negotiated down to warnings through the grievance process because of managements poor execution or thoroughness.
@coreyloucks4865 Жыл бұрын
I think a good experience I had with being kind of talked to about something I did wrong was while I worked at a Subway, I worked for a dad of my friend. He didn't really have a written system that he went by to fire people, but he'd always pull you aside to talk to you about mistakes made, and there was a time when I closed and we didn't get everything done that needed to be done during our closing routine and our boss respectfully talked to us about what we missed, discussing us about what happened that caused us to overlook it and what we could do next time. He was always respectful and a good boss. Although, I do feel looking back, he definitely needed a more written system to keep track, but he was always the friendly type that was lenient and understanding. I was also a teenager at the time so I think he gave teenagers more of a leeway due to the fact that it's typically their first jobs and there's a learning curve compared to someone whose been in the job market longer. On the contrary, I've also worked as a manager for a big corporate company that had a system of writing people up, however, it seemed like the system was abused more often than not where any excuse was made to write up particular employees who didn't quite fit the culture of the company regardless of how well they performed or did. And the work environment was overridden with bureaucracy and political drama. It seemed like stress always trickled down from the top and everyone seemed to walk on eggshells, afraid of being written up for any small infraction due ot the 3 strike system where 3 written ups would get you fired. Even within the management, there was an air of fear among the managers of being written up and we were overworked and under staffed along with the fact we spent a full week letting go and laying off people in December shortly after Black Friday just before Christmas. It was a miserable work environment compared with the less professional subway.
@shellh.51936 ай бұрын
If only I learned this a month ago. I did so much wrong that I cringed watching this. At least I asked for a copy of the written warning but I asked SIX TIMES until I finally received it because it was in retaliation to my harassment compaint on their hands. I genuinely felt they hoped I would break down and quit. I'm still there and still documenting. I'm so glad I'm educating myself with your videos because I'm literally just waiting to be fired. They just sent me home Fri telling me not to come back until I have NO limitations to return to work. The day before they violated HIPPA policies. There are so many moving parts but this has empowered me some. Thank you.
@tbaade111 ай бұрын
Branigan, You are an exceptional presenter. Your appearance (suit and tie, haircut) really lends a professional presentation to your audiences, both in videos and, as I can attest having been in court numerous times in my career, lends a believability and competence to a jury.
@Ripperx1212 жыл бұрын
I am not a lawyer. But I stay at a holiday inn express last night. Noooooo seriously... I did! First, Thank you for this video. I am in Management and stumbled on this video because of a write up I received. I took away only one thing I didn't know on the 12 things. Asking for time to think about your response. That is simply brilliant! I have a TON of HR training and that is gold right there. I think that should be moved to #1. But I understand #1 is the standard good response. Again Mr. Robertson thank you for this advice it is perfect.
@calicaly2k Жыл бұрын
Great job 👏 I got my first written warning ⚠️ after just transitioning to my new position after 8 months. The initial training was horrible for what I had to do. However, at the end of the day, take full responsibility for my actions since was objective based on my high error rate. I didn't know about a forma response. Great tip!!!
@patrickrichmond9896 Жыл бұрын
Right at 8:5 is a good rule to follow. Because just because you see a bunch of guys like if they are much younger than you are doing the same thing that you are getting in trouble for, NEVER say "Others do it!". Your boss may think you are trying to pick a fight. However, if your supervisor is writing you up for a mistake and you do see the others making the same mistake and they don't get in trouble, then you write a complaint about your supervisor singling you out of all the other guys and writing you up instead of the other guys.
@jupru22011 ай бұрын
This happened to me twice. Both times, I found another job and gave two weeks' notice. I was careful to do everything right before I left (since they seemed intent on finding fault). I wanted the managers to know what a great employee they were losing. In other words, I don't lower my integrity or work ethic because theirs are low. Both times, the write-ups were false and unfair accusations. I simply don't give my excellent working standards to bad managers - I have no desire to work with people of this calibre. Both places were bad environments due to the management culture. Another rule of mine - I don't tell the managers what I'm going to do. I took their false accusations quietly and began looking for a new job. I don't warn or threaten anything. That's like giving the enemy your battle plan before the battle. I just find another job, give the customary two-weeks' notice, and I'm gone. I don't want to, need to or have to play their games. I've never regretted leaving a bad manager. Actually, it was a huge relief.
@xcristinat10 ай бұрын
I can relate to this. I've worked my butt off in every job I've ever had...never out sick, working overtime, often being asked to take on more and more, and going above and beyond. I got sick with covid one time and was out for several days....ended up getting written up because "the work didn't get done". They were all *shocked pikachu face* when I turned in my notice. I cannot emphasize to people enough now how little corporate companies care about you. I worked there 4 years and was like a veteran because their turnover was atrocious. They lost all of my knowledge, work ethic, and value. Good riddance to them. Easily worst job I've had so far. Should have quit long before tbh.
@ARandomFurry10 ай бұрын
Most cases I was wrongfully and unfairly written up for things beyond what I was originally hired for or able to do. I was generally annoyed because what was being told to me was bull. Two different companies wrote me up for expecting me to do the jobs of three different people and be two places at once. I ended up walking out of those jobs because they became an exploitive company. You can be the greatest employee that ever lived, but they'll always find something to be petty or unreasonable. I have had crappy managers and poor HR departments. That is my experiance.
@pah65393 жыл бұрын
I think employees should talk to their coworkers about being disciplined bcuz others may have experienced the same treatment. There could be a pattern of behavior by management
@democracyjusticegod4042 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Right, but different reasons, particularly when you realized being framed by business managers to create scenario or case, and not available to listen you. 1. They will put themselves in our shoes, and realize the danger of place. 2. As & when there is call by HR for fake Case, your statement can be re-confirm if you could have told beforehand to reliable or Profession-trustworthy friend employee Coworker. 3. Alternate to Co-Worker, goto Semi-Govt 3rd party Officers with official entry of Date time & purpose Concern or Counseling, like Safety Officer or Medical Officer appointed in office by rule.
@RG-zp2qw2 жыл бұрын
No, the companies have that covered too. I was told that I could not talk to anyone else due to employee confidentiality. I did and it only made things worse.
@pah65392 жыл бұрын
@@RG-zp2qw The company have what covered? Who told you that you couldn't talk to anyone else? Who is someone else?....other employees, the public, etc.? What did you do that made things worse? Without knowing the confidentiality issue, your statement needs more clarity and context. At the end of the day, employees have rights, and if they don't assert their rights, they'll lose them. There is a presumption of confidentiality in the workplace. Certain info you may only want certain ppl to know such as supervisors or managers, but truly, any information, specifically emails that are received by staff, are NOT confidential. Someone may be manipulating you by labeling it "confidential" to control you so you won't band together with other coworkers. One thing management doesn't want is a class action lawsuit
@rosesweetcharlotte Жыл бұрын
I don't disagree, but be real selective about who you talk with. A lot of employees don't believe it could happen to them and try and secure their own jobs by being buddy-buddy with the managers. They talk because, again, they don't think it could happen to them. Whenever I have spoken with people at jobs about my issues, I only do it with people I know I can trust.
@colestarman1504 Жыл бұрын
I was written up as part of a "verbal warning" midway thru last year. The complaints were either petty or nonexistent: My boss, who was always forgetting things, reminded me to schedule meeting a day after I told someone we would set up some time in the future, her boss snooped thru my training records and saw that I had started classes but not yet finished them (I never promised to complete them but used what points i found in them to complete a large piece of work), and the final was an outright lie about someone having to complete a minor task I was supposed to. I was told the warning would go away if I completed some training courses in 60 days. I completed them early the following week. But when the company announced layoffs several weeks later, guess who was going to be let go? Fortunately, I found another job (a better one) within the company before they could officially let me go. The funny thing was they still had to do my formal review and I ended up getting my highest raise ever. I also had received several awards that year. The problem was that my boss's boss had it in for me from the first day she started. She met with all the other team members except me. I was warned she was petty and self-serving. I also caught her in multiple lies. Long story short - I'm probably one of the lucky ones.
@seapeajones11 ай бұрын
Psychos are the worst; glad you found a way out. I've been super lucky with bosses.
@julian75hall7 ай бұрын
Good advice 👍
@bobjacobson858 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, as all of your other ones are. I was in a situation 'many years ago' while in grad school with an assistantship, and I got reprimanded by the department chairman regarding my work with one of the faculty members. Basically, this work involved preparing or preserving specimens for this professor, and when I asked him if he had work for me to do, he has very little if any so I completed it. However, I was told at the end of the term that he would come looking for me to request additional work but couldn't find me--he was going to the wrong room. When I went back to check about new work, I was NEVER informed that this has happened. When I mentioned this to the chairman, he retorted that it's not the professor's job to locate the student. Thinking about this years afterward, I believe I should have asked "I assume we are on the same team--what would YOU have done if you were in this situation? I doubt he could have answered this! (BTW, another student told me this professor has done this to others in the department.)
@Goz869 ай бұрын
I had a write-up over 10 years ago. Long story short. Worked in a kitchen at a hospital. There was food left out in room temp for 5 hrs. I tossed it all out, and my manager wrote me up over throwing out food that he wanted to re sell. I went to HR, and they had the paper all typed up. I didn't sign my name but put down my side and left it at that. Told off my boss after in a respectful way.
@t.l.c7481 Жыл бұрын
I had an toxic employer try to fire me because I have a medical disability. I think he backed down when HR pointed out the lack of paper trail on me and it looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I just looked for another job. I found something that was way better. I was so pleased to hand in my two weeks notice!! They’re still trying to fill my job a year later 😂.
@KLGChaos Жыл бұрын
I've never been written up, but I've had to do many in my years as management, a couple leading to termination. Each time, I didn't want to terminate the person, but felt forced to because behavior didn't improve (you can't ask people to do drugs on the job, go run personal errands on the clock, aggresively accuse another manager of reporting you and bully another employee without consequences). The key to every good performance documentation is making sure you do a thorough investigation first, get as many witness statments as possible and make sure you are sticking to the facts and how it impacts the business. Also, unless it's an egregious offense, always give people the chance to improve. We don't even do a written documentation until there's been repeated job performance issues that we've spoken about with the employee and that the conversation has been noted in their file. Then go through the steps of verbal, written, final warnings, etc. Also, have a witness sit down with you when you serve the documentation. I had one employee who refused to sign every time and basically said everyone was lying about them (despite even having video evidence), so the witness would sign on the bottom instead with a "refused to sign" statement.
@jaydenp4975 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a few employees I had to deal with. Toxic employees that act like 5 year olds and throw tantrums and them spread malicious gossip about other.