Are You Making One of These Backhand Mistakes??

[@CalvinAytch]

Great video! I'm also guilty of the "big swing" and I'm right in the middle of working it up, exactly as you said. The more I feel the control on the backhand, the more confident I feel in it. I think it's really important to remember that when you see the big pro backhand shots, they're mostly done far from table where they have tons of time to setup for the ball - the same players don't swing big when close to table either unless it's a totally free ball.

[@PechPongTT]

Exactly right on

[@volkerlanz6499]

Your videos are the most condensed and comprehensive TT tutorials I was able to find on YT. Thanks for the effort put into each of them!

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks! Yes I try my best each video glad you like them 👍

[@bryanwells4063]

look into olav kosolosky and Ti Long, they also make some incredibly good table tennis coaching videos. Olav Kosolosky is a newer youtuber who I recently found out about, but in just two months his videos have skyrocketed in quality! you should definitely check him out.

[@LightVieweMute]

Wake up babe, new PechPong video just dropped!

[@PechPongTT]

Whoop Whoop!

[@Человекмира-у8с]

​@@PechPongTTcan you explain how make backhand topspin after long and half long fast pendulum ( side understand) serve? When I must to ball, after bounce or on peak?

[@BorgMater]

Dude, this is gold, backswing placement method will be tried as early as today :D

[@PechPongTT]

Yes give it a try for me it took several sessions of practice to get it grooved in.

[@grahamfrankel4932]

Superb. I am a specialist multiball coach and see too many players who fall into bad backhand habits from an early stage. You have covered all the issues really concisely and clearly. And especially powerful is how you have recognised and tackled the fact that the technical problems can be linked with each other. Also, your advice is great for all levels, from beginner to advanced.

[@SkepticalCaveman]

As a backhand dominant player it's interesting to see solutions to things I solved using intuition. The only weak backhand stoke I have left is the smash but that is a very advanced attack that not even pros usually use. Jörgen Person was great with the backhand smash though.

[@leonawroth2516]

My god! The frisbee analogy is amazing! I used to throw frisbees a lot and immediately thinking of a frisbee got me understanding the difference between just "moving my arm in this direction" to "utilizing my elbow as a whip". It's incredibly how many of those techniques are really happening in your head. Once it clicks, you can instantly make a lot of progress. Thanks again!

[@PechPongTT]

Eyy good that the frisbee analogy clicked for you

[@grln930]

I was in the park throwing a frisbee with some friends and It reminded me of playing backhands so much I wanted to play sum haha

[@SadPanda309]

Yaaaa good advice buuut I really sucks with frisbee. 😂 even my bh is better 😂

[@陳陳-s9g2g]

One thing that helped my backhand a lot is to recalibrate my mind to perceive the ball as a 3D object instead of a small point. Hitting the back of the ball is very different from the top of the ball because it is much closer. Therefore the timing of the bh stroke should be earlier as opposed to a shot with a flatter angle which contacts the ball at the top. To practice hitting the back of the ball I would force myself to hit the air behind the ball and be amazed to still be able to connect. The ball is much bigger than I originally envisioned it to be. In the same vein, hitting more to the left of the ball is also different from the middle and slightly further away. Now everytime I hit with my backhand I have a much better grasp of the ball and the contact point.

[@PechPongTT]

Wow what a different way of looking at it! Thanks for sharing! I think there is a lot of food for thought in your way of approaching it

[@stefansobell3905]

Best tutorial video I've seen. Suggesting mistakes we make and how to correct them is so much better than saying 'do it this way', as it's easy to think we are doing it 'this way' when we're not. Lots to take on board in the video, I'll have to come back to it again and again, I think. As soon as the video finished, I subscribed, thank you so much.

[@KrazyKanucker]

I've watched this one at least 3 times now since it was released and has been very helpful. More practice today. Thank you Seth 👍

[@struppihuppi]

I really couldn‘t stop laughing and crying for a few minutes because of the very funny intro. Thank you so much for your interesting and useful tips ❤

[@PechPongTT]

Yes! Someone found it funny 🙌

[@yotrainotti4875]

I really was ready for the payment, and don't lunch today, just to solve my backhand. Thanks for the introdution

[@PechPongTT]

Great that you loved it! I really hope you can improve your backhand 🫡

[@GaryPritchard-bb2pm]

I've seen a lot of backhand demonstrations I would say this one , for me, is definitely the best. Seeing someone explain exactly the problems they had and I have those same mistakes in my backhand , that helps me because now I know what to do to correct the problem. I've always struggled with bat angle I hit the back of the ball never generating any real spin . I feel after watching this video I really understand the mechanics involved in the backhand topspin. Thankyou

[@PechPongTT]

I’m glad you got some insights from this match that may help your game!! Best of luck!

[@adindacakraningrat5613]

I watched all of these videos without skipping, and I think the explanation here is very complete and can describe in detail what the movements are like when starting from a mistake to moving on to the next stage. I feel the explanation in this video is very good. Thank you for your efforts in summarizing and making this video. The most important thing is that it is as easy as possible for other people to understand, because sometimes video explanations are not as easy as expected, so they are a bit difficult to understand. Great 👍👍

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks yes I try to make the game as simple as possible and encourage people to do things that may at first be uncomfortable but in the long run work better!

[@WuFei0707]

Love this video. I really enjoyed watching it. I wish all the teachers teach the way you teach table tennis. I feel I learn more this way than just doing exercises without getting any real theory to focus on.

[@PechPongTT]

Yeah, I’m one who has had trouble learning the conventional way in many things I try my best to teach in a way that me and others can learn

[@pingpong9668]

9:40 Wow, you addressed the exact problem I have with my backhand that I've always struggled with fixing. My stroke and ball trajectory is exactly like 9:45, which makes it hard for me to do backhand training and multiball.

[@Gecko926]

Thank u from Guadeloupe, in my country we have a lack of pedagogy because we dont have big trainers. youtube is our best way to improve. I subscribed to your page.

[@jameshamilton6096]

First of all your introduction was Hilarious, you really made me laugh. Your back hand tips are amazing and i for one am really grateful for all your amazing tutorial videos. Many, many thanks.

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks glad you found it amusing! I’ll keep them coming 👍

[@InfiniteGyre]

good to see that basically everything revolving around the backhand is something I need to improve on :D

[@ArtbyRuthannah]

Genius Intro!! 😂 Hilarious Bravo👏 Great Tip on visualizing it as a Frisbee for more arm awareness.

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks! Glad you like the ideas and concepts

[@MrMikkelvilladsen]

Great video. Key is conscious incompetence! I love how You integrate small steps and consistently Watch out for training bad technique. You have a fan, Sire!

[@miele9202]

Very useful video. I try to teach things that are second nature to me, but it's hard to put them in words and explain why things have to be done a certain way. Never stop learning! Thank you!

[@idrivearttabletennis]

Great video. Useful tips for anyone to improve their backhand.

[@_jacob5]

awesome video! This is specifically great for me, as someone who learned only by grinding drills without much theory. I only learned "the right way" to do backhand. By explaining each bad habit in detail, why they're bad, and why these bad habits occur, you're bringing to consciousness the bad habits that I have developed. I especialy like the contrast training technique, as this wasn't part of how I learned. I also really like the clips of professional play to bring the point home.

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks great that now I’ve made you aware of mistakes you make. Best of luck improving!!

[@meys57]

you are one of the best couches in youtube for table tennis ... your points are supper helpful I am a player from London and I enjoy your videos and apply many of your tips and i have improved a lot by doing that. please keep it going.

[@PechPongTT]

thank you very much thats a high compliment best of luck on improving your game!

[@anashozifa9537]

I have to say this video was much better than trying to think and say " What am I doing wrong ? " .. you're a legend ❤

[@freeadrian1144]

I find your videos so interesting that, as I watch them, time seems to stand still!

[@hkrishnan91]

Thank you. This video made me realise the mistakes I have been doing. Will keep your advice in mind and workout in my next training session.

[@lucaslupus1]

Amazing video! Was really nice to meet you at the Frankfurt Championship! I'm that guy that asked if you were PechPong and later introduced you to my other friend who was working at the SpinSight booth Wish you luck on your season here in Germany!

[@PechPongTT]

Thank you man! Yes I remember was really cool to meet you there 🙌

[@weareprayingforthelost]

just want to say your humor was on point with the intro. loved it!

[@mehrlix2338]

Great Video. Probably one of the most comprehensive backhand guide I have seen so far. To your question about which problem I have; It's probably all of them... ^^ So I'm looking forward to trying your tips on solving them.

[@rav781]

This is AMAZINGLY good content. Thank you so much. I've never had a coach, so stuff like this is great.

[@PechPongTT]

That’s great! I’m glad it helps!

[@MrCooperscoopers]

Just watched whole video. Excellent one! thank you. One comment about having hand low when looping topspin issue. I have that issue. The situation usually happens when I first bh loop an underspin ball since you have to put your hand position low. But after that, the ball comes back with a top spin and at that time, I didn't keep my hand high. I drop my hand at a low position again. So the instruction is after underspin loop, I need to keep my hand high since the ball coming back is topspin.

[@PeakPerformanceTableTennis]

Great tips as usual, Seth! Loved the intro haha

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks 🙏 haha I try

[@bS-jf5rf]

Very good video. First time.someone has spoken in detail about complexities of backhand shot. Very good 😊

[@SchnellerKR]

The intro was so creative, wish more table tennis tutorials had these little fun elements

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks! KZbin videos should be fun and creative I think :)

[@oppapingpong]

Great review and solution, your backhand technique is good to try

[@yusufshaha3980]

Just Wow!! Kudos to your deep understanding and analysis of the game...

[@guillogrande]

Panameño you are a great coach, great videos, clear explanations, opening the raquet helps a lot, I was learning to many balls at the net, thanks !!!

[@PechPongTT]

Thank you! Yes that helped me a lot! Glad you enjoyed the video

[@dzozepe]

This channel is awesome, also THE BEST ADVICE FOR FOREHAND FLICK is that u use the backspin and more open angle of the racket and not trying to overspin the ball.

[@PechPongTT]

Thank you very much I’m glad you like the channel, yes that’s a big help when forehand flicking

[@meys57]

the first images in black and white are very nice ... you are a good video maker too ... well done ... with no facilities you are making such a good video ...

[@a.m.9466]

Great video, I always like watching this type of video before I go to play, it’s subliminal training for me much like when I was ski pro. It allows me to practice with more of a purpose that will extend into my match play

[@raymondborror6996]

Thank you, Seth. I would consider my backhand about 75% there. Your many thoughtful drills are going to help my backhand become more powerful and consistent.

[@PechPongTT]

Keep up the good work! 👊

[@hukasumi5025]

hello once again and I thank you once again for the tip and trick you gave us from previous forehand technique

[@simonshandrinov9079]

Thanks for the video! Couldn't find the most related to me though(except for timing of course). Which is after lifting the backspin with the first hit, using my legs and back, I keep using my back extension instead of reaching forward with hips pushed back. Cheers!

[@PechPongTT]

Best of luck with the game! 💪

[@eh2acmq]

Thank you! Great video! I saw myself and some of our younger players in more than one of your examples. Hope it will help to fix some issues.

[@PechPongTT]

Best of luck!

[@tt-net8857]

Thank you for this video. There is so much relevant information presented absolutely clearly and concisely. Could you do a video like this about the fh and bh push?

[@etr295]

Really thorough! Great detail, clear analysis. Thank you very much!

[@GeorgiKolev]

Thanks for the fantastic guidance! Timing is definitely the hardest battle to me, but all mistakes are relevant to any non-professional player I guess.

[@kapi6130]

Great video! would love to see a video on footwork and movement in this format!!

[@auflauf494]

Your TT videos are the best and most helpful on KZbin. TY!

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks Im glad you think so Ill try to keep them coming!

[@tellmestraight]

Excellent attention to detail. Thank you!

[@TT4you]

🤗 Hello, you are hilarious a good man and a nice person☀️ we're happy for your explanations to us)

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks 😊

[@bhloop]

Very, VERY well done Seth..sharing with the crew I coach in MD. Have used frisbee analogy for years...borrowed it from Larry Hodges. Hope youre doing well. This is Steve Hochman under nom de plum LOL.

[@jonasdreher3053]

Hey Seth, love your videos, thanks for another amazing one. Are you planning to upload and analyze the matches you play / played in Germany? Would love to see you play and analyze some of the people you have come across at the tournaments you played, because i've already played against some of them myself.

[@PechPongTT]

Hey yeah I’m planning on uploading some matches and talking about them.

[@handlebargg]

The best tips I've ever had, I'll definitely subscribe and use your help to improve my game :) Thank you!

[@MrDzommu]

Good video. Just on the closed to open, I think when you keep the racket angle parralel to the ground (0 degrees), invert the wrist as much as possible, let your shoulder/arm down and also go down slighyl from your knees, you get extra power by unwinding the wrist and going from closed to open. Has to be spot on timing but I do feel the best shots are from closed to open.

[@PechPongTT]

It’s true when you look at good players many of them wind their wrists up in the closed position on strong backhands, the difference is that they are able to skillfully maneuver the racket back into position whereas most players when they try to replicate this they can’t. So it’s much easier to just keep it open for most players. The players that can maneuver their wrist will not change because they see no need to.

[@shelbypereira]

Excellent summary of bh problems and the fixes!

[@PechPongTT]

Thank you! Many years of working with players I started to see some common problems

[@Nathan_BriTT]

Oh my gosh you guys our Lord and Savior Seth Pech just dropped another banger!

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks for the hype glad you like it 👊

[@nguyenmanhtung3301]

Wonderful! I learnt a lot from this video. Thanks soooo much

[@ardak1984]

Wooow! Super tutorial. The best!

[@6307sunny]

Detailed and deeply researched, thanx bro

[@kitcooks]

Lol I like the humor in the new videos is great! I like the problem solution format

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks trying to make my videos a little more entertaining:)

[@marcelogonzalezechazu9054]

Fantastic pedagogical thinking!!!👏

[@PechPongTT]

Thank you! Nice word Pedagogical

[@agc444]

Wonderful tutorial. Many thanks. My level is far lower than discussed here but even though I find your videos extremely helpful. Keep going.

[@PechPongTT]

Well at least maybe when you get to the level you won’t fall into any of these pitfalls!

[@iplaw1234]

Another fantasitc video and I appreciated the humor int he beginning. I've long been subject to the "hit it to his backhand" only strategy - which is super frustrating. Your video touched immediately on two of my biggest issues, which are reaching and timing. Going to try out your tips with my robot and see if they help. Question - how long do you recommend that I do each drill during a practice session?

[@PechPongTT]

Do the drills as long as you can stay focused, maybe 10 min rest 10 min rest 10 min rest. Make sure you are uncomfortable and working on doing it right, the next time you come back you will have an enhanced awareness and it will only get better if you keep that process.

[@iplaw1234]

@@PechPongTT Thanks. I have the power pong robot as well. Do you recommend practicing with the same kind of ball that you show in the videos. I.e., a somewhat high, relatively low spin ball?

[@PechPongTT]

@@iplaw1234 try to make is as realistic as possible to a normal block. That’s a good place to start

[@zahariabogdan5247]

One of the best videos on Backhand, thanks!

[@PechPongTT]

Glad you think so!

[@tampabaytabletennis]

Awesome stuff! A lot of good info here. I’ve been working hard on my backhand and this helps a lot. Thanks!!!

[@PechPongTT]

Glad to offer some insights and thoughts on the backhand for you, best of luck 🙌

[@hetalkumarbhatt9354]

Excellent explanation of backhand mistakes and their correction. Great job. I really appreciate your efforts. I have not seen any video like this ❤

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks! Glad you liked the video 🙏

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks! Glad you liked the video 🙏

[@Twiddle_TV]

Omg yessss. I can't watch this until after work! Ugh! Let's go Seth!!!

[@PechPongTT]

Yeah!!

[@TheSteezin117]

Such a great video! Thank you for sharing this information. Super easy to follow and the editing is 🤌

[@aldomat1]

As alway: brilliant video. Very detailed and very good explained. Thanks a lot to this video!

[@PechPongTT]

Thank you! I’m happy you enjoyed it

[@joehughes3764]

Best TT videos on the internet!

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks! Im glad you think so I'll try to keep it up!

[@arifdjunaedys2328]

Terima. Kasih vidio yg inspiratif untuk lebih baik kedepannya

[@cafephin2024]

Really appreciate this backhand and forehand corrections series Seth. Please expand this series to the other like serving, receive servers....,

[@PechPongTT]

Good thinking I was just thinking of other areas I could do this in as well

[@Catherine1850]

Hi! Suuuper thanks for your videos :D I think you did not mention de mistake of "raising the shoulders when doing the stroke". I have been doing it during too many time. I cannot assure if it is "a deadly mistake" or not, but for me, just keeping the shoulders low and relaxed helped me to not hit a thousand of edges. Also, I am guilty of not waiting the ball, I am working hard to improve it, I confirm that timing is one of the most important aspects to improve faster.

[@vondrous84]

Nice video thanks. Few hints really helped... 😊

[@AndyK665]

Incredible video as always. Worth the wait.

[@PechPongTT]

Glad you think so!

[@noumoe.62]

So recognizable, but how to change it. Thank you very much, especially for the "Place Method" Tip !

[@PechPongTT]

Great glad you liked the tips! that one helped me soo much as well as many of my students.

[@Girlonthemattress]

Haha very good tips! Great video! Can’t believe you showed every mistake specifically 😂

[@danielstapler4315]

When a watch a segment of you hitting the ball I can never be sure if your showing the right or the wrong way. An X on the wrong way and a tick on the screen on the right way would be helpful. Some would say, just listen carefully to what's being said before the video segment and work it out but I (and I think others) want to learn with as little effort as needed. And I'm not talking about effort on the TT stroke but rather effort applied to the video instruction.

[@yanlee8316]

Excellent installations. Thanks

[@XulSolarBand]

Excellent teaching here.

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks m8!

[@hareshbhatt5960]

Very Nice and indepth video. It covered 2 mistakes I make along with the solutions. It will great if you could share some shadow drills too.

[@PechPongTT]

great! noted! shadow practice can be very useful

[@masterspin7796]

I started concentrating on my backhand a few years ago and my forehand suffered it changed the way I play...Currently I have been working my forehand again and it is a weapon again I lost it for a while. So far, the return board has been the best training for the backhand I have made up some good drills on my tabletop model...

[@PechPongTT]

Yeah got to focus on all parts of the game less one gets left behind a little bit. The return board is a great training tool

[@masterspin7796]

The return board has made a noticeable difference in my game I don't use it the conventional way I make up drills that go directly to my problem areas of play close to "multi-drill" level. The robot ruined my match play I spend 2.5years working it I am good again right now it took months.@@PechPongTT

[@masterspin7796]

@@PechPongTT I'm still training on it the backhand is becoming deadly...

[@meistersplinter304]

Cant describe How much i needed this! 😂thxbro

[@CFSUnravelled1]

Great video Seth - thank you very much. I find my biggest problem is not keeping the elbow fixed. It drops down during the stroke effectively making the pivot point halfway down towards the wrist. Even did n small amounts it's a big problem as it stops me getting around the left side of ball for optimal kick spin. Often I don't notice it and struggle to fix my elbow. position How can I traun this - U almost feel U need to fix it in space with a stuck for training 😜

[@matthiaselser3117]

love the video, one of the problems i have is that i drop my racket to much on topspin ball just like you said. for me it alway felt like i do that because i am used to playing the first ball against backspinn and i have to lift and the the second on i want to lift is as well because that is what i just did i would also love to see a video like this for blocking, countering, loop to loop and others, it is just such a grat format and as a coach it is always nice to hear how a different person ( especially somebod that is a lot better than i am) helps players correct mistakes

[@PechPongTT]

Yeah I also had that problem as well it takes time and takes many reps to fix. I think it’s a great format too and leads to different content than what you traditionally see on KZbin tutorials

[@HenryKeller-hm8ih]

Thanks for sharing ! It is excellent.

[@z0uLess]

I honestly think an upgrade to the rubber will help me, even though my coach pushes me to keep using the Yasaka Mark V. It is so hard to produce any kind of livelyhood with Mark V backhand on a 5-ply wood blade that I often go really deep with my lower arm to get more speed on the racket ... or I just play passive blocks and pushes because I dont have time to load up the long backhand stroke. I am good at lifting backspin balls with my backhand, but the general "dead" feeling of Mark V because of the thick top layer on it just makes it really difficult to develop a shorter stroke in backhand. It could be that I just dont have the finesse to adjust my position correctly and read the length over the edge on the half long balls, but every time I try to attack an underspin ball with backhand the stroke breaks down. Every ball just becomes so safe that my opponents can easily attack it. I was thinking of giving Nittaku Fastarc C-1 a try ... or go full high arc style Donic Bluefire m3/m2

[@paulbaudinet4000]

Best intro I've seen in yonks!

[@aldopalacios3357]

Great video, Seth! A lot of good lessons and tips. Thank you!!

[@PechPongTT]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@nishithtiwari5282]

Hi seth, I am a fan of details in your videos. I am really stuck with few problems: 1- Have always practised more fast games, I kind of lose interest when I face a too spinny , slow, unconventional heights are offered by opponents as I am not able to tone down to the speed and start making mistakes. 2- slow, high, no spin balls slightly left towards the edge of table makes me try to hit it flat from backhand, maybe due to my lack of mobility to take it from the forehand 3- I realize i have bad footwork as can be inferred by 2 above, I dont reset after every stroke, not even in practice..maybe never learnt how to do it right. Can share my video of practice if you can give some quick feedback.

[@jackiezeng1451]

Love the vid! I know my backhand boutta go crazy from this 😁

[@PechPongTT]

That’s the spirit!

[@noormotani9719]

Well explained.

[@CorentinKaisergruber]

best intro ever

[@stefanreuter9626]

Thanks for this great Video 👍👍👍 Greetings from Germany 😁

[@mT4945]

note on stringing inside the ball. A Japanese backhand coach told me, if you want safe shot go for outside the ball. It will be more spiny. However, If you hit inside the ball it will be faster, offcourse aiming on the cross not straight side. I agree with you on hitting the outside the ball. But I the ball is slow prefer hitting inside the ball.

[@PechPongTT]

yes I had some japanese players talk about hitting the inside of the ball, they all seem to include that in their games.

[@KappaMan123]

What a great video! I watched the whole thing and really enjoyed it!

[@PechPongTT]

Glad you enjoyed it 👌

[@intiseranam6483]

That's absolutely brilliant. Thanks very much! I think I make most of the mistakes haha. One big trouble I am facing is when the opponent spins or blocks the ball close to my net. I miss the contact and the ball drops to the ground. I'm not sure what to do should I take my right foot forward and flick or should I go down and then go up. Could you give an advice please? Thanks!