Are you opening relics correctly? | Warframe

Are you picking the right relics? Using your void traces optimally? Could you be leaving ducats on the table? Let's look into the math inside relics to let you make the right choices.
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[@holyelixir4580]

obviously the most optimal strategy for Bronze rarity is to make your relics Radiant, then you'll get a bronze every time!

[@ethancarl7917]

spittin facts

[@zethax5]

That's fr what's been happening to me lately. That rhino p blueprint is so evasive!

[@joyce_rx]

me and a friend went through a total of 12 radiant relics for a rare wukong part and all we got were bronzes. we were so pissed lmao

[@zdelix11]

Amen

[@somebody7205]

@@joyce_rx thing is a few days ago I went after gara's part bp from meso (bronze rarity) with 11 relics. I legitimately got every possible reward from the relic except what I needed. Including the rare gold drop

[@squareroots6003]

Forma blueprint being the silver drop in some relics is such a rip off.

[@44tharia46]

fr it should at least give me a completed forma

[@Sengrath2986]

Not even finished mars, and got like 28 blueprints.

[@kaungsetmoe4876]

Should have been more than 1 forma bp or just removed forma from silver drop at all.

[@stephondadon2611]

Formas are my trace farming relics

[@GothremenBhason]

It would be justifiable if we are getting x3 Forma as an uncommon drop

[@e3rss1]

Everyone knows that relics only drop the item you aren't aiming for.

[@nerflv3428]

Except I got my gold drop the first time I needed and I prepared a couple of axi

[@e3rss1]

@@nerflv3428 A while back, I saw Titania Prime Systems were gonna be vaulted so I planned to run some random relics to get some traces. First run with a random, some other dude got it.

[@Juliett-A]

You forgot how Paris and Braton parts have a hidden 90% chance to drop from any relic.

[@hillbillysamurai]

I think they upgraded it 95%

[@financialzero5684]

As someone who got Paris Prime without even going for it (until I realized I was only one part away) I think it’s more like 98%

[@guyver-9717]

Oohh thats why i have randoms parts that are not mentionned in the relic

[@Chosty94]

> Waste 3 rad relics in a row that ended being bronze > You ran out of void traces and you decide to farm more > You instantly get a gold drop in an unwanted intact relic that you don't needed the gold drop :)

[@giovannigentili3375]

Happened yesterday

[@scarletking2676]

yup relics in a nut shell

[@gatitagiz2]

THIS

[@Arrlic]

The Average Relic Cycle of Pain

[@themanwithnoname1839]

Yea straight up, i got exactly what i wanted from relics and then the one time i only needed the one part for a prime weapon it decided, NAH FUCK YOU in ozzyman reviews voice

[@aravinds3846]

Spends 100 traces to get a rad relic , gets silver forma or a bronze part of an evergreen prime. Then randomly runs void fissures , gets all required gold parts from randos with no relic refinement.

[@vollkerball1]

and that is warframe for you

[@malakash4716]

same problem here, i bet lot of ppls have same problem i mind RNG.

[@Giacomo_112]

Welcome to the club

[@LeRoiJojo]

Praise be RNGesus!

[@EggVillain]

Sounds about right lol

[@proximityclockworkx1572]

Ah yes. The cruel untasteful joke of a reward. Silver forma. Almost as frustrating as getting a bronze from radiants, which should be outlawed for the sake of our time....

[@eyywannn8601]

You say that but there was a Meso D1 relic that had two forma in it and I still miss it.

[@zakkymiftahurrahman1665]

@about_data that's actually a good thing. Statistically, we will be more likely to get prime parts than the forma.

[@justinanderson2631]

@@eyywannn8601 you mean it had two chances to drop forma or it gave 2 Forma Blueprints? Because I think We need to start getting 2 Forma Blueprints on silver drops lol

[@arryxjalaxy2881]

@@justinanderson2631 I actually really like this idea

[@arnouxgaming3720]

I wish silver forma came pre built

[@h13n12]

i love it when i need to farm a common item and i used 4 intact relic in a row and all 4 gave me uncommon

[@Matheuskwo]

There is something crazy too: running void relics with random players (all 4 with intact) and we get two rare items to choose hahahaha 2 rares at the same time is a waste lol

[@h13n12]

@@Matheuskwo how about doing a radshare and all 4 got the exact same uncommon

[@Matheuskwo]

@@h13n12 The more rad and the more same relics, the better (i think) But all relics rank 3/4 is always better, as him showed in the video

[@RoboVirtue]

Ive learned that the key to opening relics is not wanting anything or hoping for anything. That way you wont be disappointed & you'll eventually get whole sets without realizing it.

[@jadonbelezos2583]

this is works really well with idea of farming for ducats. the early player you are, the more likely when running pubs, that someone will not only bring a relic you need but get that part that you need randomly.

[@blitz-n-chipz361]

This is key. After while you get prime parts/sets you don’t need and can sell them to just buy the piece you need for a set you want

[@AtheismF7W]

Dis is da wei.

[@Psoewish]

Upgrading to radiant is super worth it if you’re after common rewards.

[@tater428]

Titania prime is being built as we speak (my first prime warframe yay!) Thanks a bunch for this new info mate!

[@ender4101]

Nice! Mine was Ivara.

[@connorericson]

My three were limbo, Loki and one more can’t remember the name

[@tater428]

@@ender4101 I did get Ivara Prime's chassis. Sold it though to get the pangolin prime handle to level steel meridian up lmao

[@tater428]

@@connorericson Oh nice! I recently got Limbo. Any particular mods I should be on the lookout for?

[@ender4101]

@@tater428 Eh, that's fair. I'd probably do the same with a Titania Prime chassis myself :v

[@Halbostfriese]

While I believe the math in this video is real, I still am not convinced refining relics does anything.

[@emm6101]

It is debateable, i was trying for a gold drop and it took me 20.. all radiant to get what i wanted.

[@morganpriest7726]

It does something but it *feeeeels* like it does jack shit

[@gilneyn.mathias1134]

No joke, a bunch of times i was going for the common reward, but got the gold one in the end lol

[@jakecheong664]

Gara prime main blueprint farming, depression

[@k3n179]

Pretty much i does feel it do nothing because as you can see in the start of the video, the percentages does no increase the get even, so the same way, 2% seems ridiculously lucky to get in a normal relic, this only get 5x more likely to happen in a radiat relic, and the odds for the other options such as only uncommon and common loot get narrower, instead of you getting for example in 10 prime tier lucky runs 3 common items, 6 uncommon, and the rest rare, you could get maybe 4 rares and uncommon loots and only get 2 common loots, so technically it does nothing but at the same time it helps A LOT with the grind it would be to get the 2% rare loot, that would be translated to pretty much 5x higher prices of prime warframes, and little things like the 70pl Gara Set would be something like 560plat, even though it's quite rare to find someone playing her

[@Lucidirus]

Ya’ll remember those moments when you got a vaulted rare off an intact?

[@jdirksen]

I will also remember the moment I sold a nekros prime bp (or rather one of the rare parts) for 100 ducats. I didn’t know trading was really a thing back then, but I later found out it was selling for 100s of plat. Never again.

[@quinnmcpherrin7131]

I remember the time i got two nikana blades in a row off intacts during some relic burns.

[@Doot-O]

@@jdirksen same here, however, the idiot known as me sold 2 Loki Prime Systems for ducats

[@jakecheong664]

@@Doot-O but you did get a loki prime from last month's tennocon, and also because of that the price for loki prime(components) are way lower, so it is not that much of a waste I guess

[@hammerheadcorvette4]

Saryn Prime on the last day before being Vaulted way back when. Never Forget

[@domeinhg8372]

Remember my fellow tenno, the desire sensor knows, if you want something, don't think about it and it will come unexpectedly

[@bloodhundr7943]

Been playing 6 years your not wrong

[@LemonGingerHoney]

Forma is Life. All hail Forma Blueprint. One true God.

[@run4walk]

Not when Plague Star is a thing

[@scubasteve8918]

@@run4walk never ran it. F

[@weebweeb3516]

Shoutout to the Redeemer Prime Handle, the piece that far exceeded the usual 99.9% chance when compared to relics opened. I must have spent nearly a year of on-and-off farming to get that stupid part. Eventually, I just became too stubborn to buy it, lol. It was worth it though, that thing is great.

[@brandon2879]

I was so lucky the other night, I got 4-5 components in a row that I was trying to farm. Now I expect to never get what I want ever again

[@balder3375]

"When farming ducats, how you spend ducats barely matters" switched that word there but nice vid as always ^^

[@MLGHazrad]

The best strategy that I have been doing is to take the desire relic and *pray* that you get it. It has worked well to where I got ivara and titania prime, solo

[@Sway_Jacob]

My rng didn’t fail me when I recently got nezha as my first warframe

[@BigBadLoneWolf]

if you want a common drop, the chance drops as you refine relics, and increases for the rest the more you refine them

[@glome2404]

One of the best (maybe even THE best) way to farm ducats is actually running Neo V10. It's special because it has a 45 ducat part as a common reward.

[@Alberto-wr2sv]

9:44 Yeah... Today i have oppened 38 Neo O1(Radiant) to get Volt prime systems (uncommon). No systems and 20 Volt Prime Bp. Fuck maths.

[@jurlin4087]

could u perhaps donate 1 of thoes volt prime BP to me by any chance

[@Alberto-wr2sv]

@@jurlin4087 Ofc! Tell me your ingame name and i will pm you tomorrow (Im from Spain, is late atm)

[@AnonymousB0ss]

Might I also receive such a donation…? What platform are you on?

[@Alberto-wr2sv]

@@AnonymousB0ss Pc

[@jurlin4087]

@@Alberto-wr2sv my IGN is: SinzzT4 also ty :)

[@OTOss8]

Just found your channel. I'm glad you're still making videos. This was super helpful to me since I'm returning after a 2 year break. Can't wait to work my way through your catalogue of videos.

[@jefthereaper]

"Are you opening relics correctly?" *No, and just try and stop me!*

[@zaqrylaqyff]

literally radiant-ed my relics for Atlas neuroptics and got nothing, finished all my traces and just went with an intact one and finally got it, bruh moment :(

[@DrFunkman]

I love the part where you assume I can even get a relic from a mission. I don’t how many times it’s taken more than 18 times to get a relic only for it to not have the piece I need

[@panpanda9715]

I still think silver reward forma js a crime

[@MoonHowler340]

2:55 -2:58 Man, I thought 7x times that my apartment doorbell rings... When watching over and over this part..

[@seth2750]

10:32 I have a strategy for getting rare drop out of a relic easily without using countless radiant relics. 1. collect a few void traces, (if you already have some then you're good) 2. if you have enough for a radiant then crack a radiant but if not then crack an intact. repeat till crack radiant 3. if you didn't get your rare you're looking for out of your radiant then repeat step 2 till it arives from what I have seen using this strategy, if you have bad luck the max relics you'll need is 20. And you'll most likely get the rare drop from and intact relic then from a radiant one

[@scruffyronin9382]

Was farming for a Saryn Prime set today to help out a friend. Managed to get a full Nidus Prime set from other people's relics before I got the *common* systems to drop. Could not believe my luck

[@Winterborn5]

I had something similar happen. Except I was farming nidus prime and ended up with everything for octavia prime.

[@arroF]

Yooo new upload! I learn something new after every video even though I already have 400 hrs on the game. Keep up the amazing work!

[@gyuriteso]

What I personally do is I have a list of relics from which I already have everything and spamming those with random groups. Then spending the void traces to RAD those where I'm still missing the pieces, and looking for a radshare. Actually I have like 90% of my prime parts from the fist option, dropped by the randoms :D

[@leachblah6313]

Sometime I can't believe I prepared 10 relics and got gold reward in the very first try when I was not expecting. The other time I only have 7 radiant and played 6 radshare to get one gold reward. Thank god I didn't run out of relics. That relic is a pain to farm.

[@takezokimura2571]

I think relics are my favorite loot boxes. *Rarity* : Yes, there are 4 main types, and theoretically Axi are rarer. But once you reach all the best nodes, Axi relics have the same drop chance (14%) as lith relics. Also, there's no "rarer" axi relic except for the vault ones (which actually had better drop chances with Prime Ressurgence). *Loot table* : 4 items per relic, instead of 100-200. You can focus your farm for a specific relic. *Drop chance* : 25% for specific common, 11% for uncommon and 2% for rare. Once fully upgraded uncommon becomes 20% and rare 10%. In other games you're be lucky if a lootbox has 2% for rare item. You can ALSO choose your teammates' reward. *Duplicates usage* : You can sell the relics or the duplicates you got. You can also sell them to Baro and get some nice cosmetics, mods and weapons. Also, chances are that when you were farming for a prime warframe, you got relics for another one you don't have.

[@TweedleDub]

one thing about running in a premade group is if you are hunting a specific rare item, if you all equip the same radiant relic it increases your chance on getting said item in fewer runs ;D

[@Ixarus6713]

Yup. If all 4 players have a radiant of the same type, it should only take around about 1 round for the thing they all want to drop to drop. Neat. Good luck getting a full group like that tho- 😂

[@miranor6941]

Thanks mate, now I know how to do it best! Your vids rock!

[@opbush5272]

Next video title: Are you living your life correctly?

[@sunglee1774]

Nice video.👍 Another strategy for farming rare part is to farm void traces and common part through intact relics. Then a rare part that you don't need will come out eventually.=_=

[@ElGringoFuerte]

i got the full set of nidus and nezha prime + a bunch of prime weapons while chasing Equinox Prime systems (and I STILL NOT HAVE IT)

[@RaptorT1V]

What are the void traces? I cannot understand

[@javierhuizar4207]

What if you can run solo missions in 2 minutes and public groups finish in 3.5 minutes? Edit: Capture and exterminate missions in particular. Sometimes in public groups someone joins late and everyone has to wait until they get 10 reactant, or someone just doesn't extract. On top of that, solo you can instantly repeat a mission without having to wait for others that may leave the squad or spend an additional minute picking which relic to run. Ken, help me solve this practical problem!

[@finnryczek8161]

Still open in a group. you have a much higher chance to get something of value. i would say if you only just to farm some traces fast then you could go some solo openings.

[@ovencake523]

that varies between group, every group is different and so a run's time efficiency is hard to calculate. Even so, the extra minute you save is probably less beneficial than the other people in your group. You're opening four relics at one time. Also the traces you get from running in a group will shave runs too

[@javierhuizar4207]

I appreciate the responses everyone! But it would make me feel assured if squad leader Ken looked into the numbers.

[@javierhuizar4207]

@@finnryczek8161 there's a high chance on paper, but if I can run 1.75 times the missions, in an hour, surely I'll get more ducats/platinum per hour by the sheer increase of relics opened even if the odds of a rare is lower.

[@EvilPineappl]

@@javierhuizar4207 he already looked that the numbers, they're in this video. 2:53

[@ilardozhejani3347]

What an excellent guide, thank you!

[@addison1134]

I've noticed that the enemies that spawn whenever you get a rare reward are in much larger groups and consist of alot more eximus units.

[@ThePenguin134]

Amazing video and info!

[@dav8162]

"Having a relic which has a common forma blueprint thankfully has very limited impact" **RNG God grants all 4 people in my squad forma blueprints**

[@hpea7517]

Thanks for helping me understand void relics

[@inigobirden2155]

I knew most of these things but I didn't really know the math on if it's better to make flawless or radiant relics for rare/uncommon drops, now I do, thanks.

[@Marianojoey]

wow, I play solo, but had no idea that playing in group would let you choose the prize. I'll have to try it later. :)

[@BurningWarSword]

Excellent presentation, thank you.

[@evilpower3286]

very detailed i like the charts and % of everything well done thank you👍

[@FrostyTheDragon]

RNG can bite pretty nastily when it comes to these relics. Personal example: 30 Radiant Relics when I was trying to get the Aklex Prime Link (I wanted the Mastery and did this during TennoCon). Switched to "any tier" of that relic and got the link off of an intact relic after about 6 more tries. One of the few times I've broken into angrish over a relic. ...I'll admit also as far as Void Traces, I'm holding a bunch of them until Nidus Prime arrives. Will likely run quite a few Radiant relics then.

[@DanteTorn]

This is why you radshare when possible tbh

[@augustduplessis5862]

Hope more people can see this especially those who rushes through a game without waiting for others to join.

[@CavemanZerron]

Thank you, this really helped

[@DragonxFlutter]

I don't really do things optimally when it comes to Relics. I just Radiant the ones I need, and try to get the parts I'm looking for. EDIT: You forgot the most important part. What Mission Type is most efficient for farming Relics, and which is best for cracking Relics?

[@Matheuskwo]

Capture > Exterminate > Sabotage > interception and excavation > all

[@tridinh1011]

Farming relics is disruption hands down (if there is a disruption that drops that type)

[@Zickzii]

@@tridinh1011 Apollo on Lua is life. Railjack Veil Proxima Void Storms too.

[@williamma4444]

11:00 I think the second “ducats” should be “void traces”

[@theprofessional438]

Just a radiant breakdown, thanks.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Ken: Are you opening relics correctly? Me: I can guarantee you I'm probably not doing ANYTHING in ANY video game correctly...

[@ignessrilians]

Amazing guide

[@sharkblade2608]

Knowing that I only have one chance at Garuda Nueroptics has been keeping me from opening that one relic. 10% chance to get what I want is higher than I thought it was tho.

[@khalira1]

step 1: do some ESO and get a few Radiant Relics step 2: open those to get some void fissures step 3: farm a few of the relics you want rare drops of and refine them (2 or 3 are usually a good amount) step 4: say "H/LF [relic] radshare" in team finding chat step 5: prey and get frustrated gg

[@nameltneGesreveR]

It was on the tip of my tongue for a while watching your videos and I finally know who you remind me of - XboxAhoy, the guy who makes the Iconic Arms series. Very similar timbre to you two.

[@TsubasayaYami]

The only thing that uncommon forma bp does for me is +5-10 traces when a friend has a common forma drop and I convince the others to select mine bc it's silver

[@jacktarantino6799]

For ducat farming, since I spend lots of time in eso, I get rad relics easily a pretty neet way of getting those relics if u need them

[@kelvinliao6160]

you make good videos, brother

[@TheArcSet]

Thanks for this video.

[@rinojonsi1866]

11:00 "When farming ducats, how you spend ducats barely matters."

[@Xyoni_htklv]

I really want to see that deep dive tbh. I don't think I can afford it nice video thank you

[@ameri7260]

And here i am , had to run 11 radshare runs for ash prime .. sorry FOR ONE OF HIS PARTS OLNY

[@Bl4ckH4nd]

RNG loves me in this game. Did 3 runs with clan mates, all the exact same radiant relic. All 3 runs all 4 us rolled forma.....

[@Kosek2k]

Omg thx, u have my sub and hand up👍

[@Xorua]

Finally, someone else who doesn’t say “duckets”

[@robclemmett3908]

I find u get better rewards from relic cracking in railjack missions than in standard missions tbf

[@BigJay_]

What about the elusive high school myth? "the golden forma" strikes fear in my heart every time I hear of it

[@fantasticoproduction]

Thanks!

[@ViolentVio]

nice video

[@HIIMPIEZ]

What about the odds on a Radstagger vs a Radparty?

[@fas609]

I find many players not knowing a common one can be 25 ducat or an uncommon one 65 ducat, they just picking by simply look at the sign of different class on the selection at the end of the mission.

[@troyjohnson2137]

this guy is the deep league of warframe

[@euclxd8033]

tbh i just go solo in endless fissures because almost no public squad wants to go an hour, which is kinda lame. And I don't want to spend my time on recruiting chat as well.

[@felipemarin4575]

Why don't u burn relics on capture or ext?

[@javierhuizar4207]

Endless fissures are too slow. Capture and exterminate can be run in 2 minutes, endless only rewards every 5 minutes.

[@mauz791]

@@javierhuizar4207 true, but excavation is the best imo

[@sarbe6625]

Usually after I am done farming for a piece of prime gear, if I have leftover radiants, I just crack them in a public lobby.

[@waterflex6289]

If you want to get the rare from a relic, its good to hop in sup with 3 of your friends that also have the same relic (only one of you choses the radiant relic at a time) it might not be as effective as all going for the same relic on the same time, but if gives you a chance of getting more than just one of the desired item, something happend to me once that made me really mad, i went with a group of friends to farm a specific item that was rare and when we finally revealed the relics we all got the rare item on the same run... That means that 3 of those chances to get a rare got wasted ( I'm not sure if I'm being clear here)

[@JAJA-sr3nk]

I must’ve spent all my rng points this month because I have been grinding a chassis for so long but nothing

[@arbabosumandal6163]

I once got gold teir reward back to back (i think it was mag prime bp) on intact relics, and remember opening 18 radiant relics getting no gold

[@zenerstorm95]

Still hunting for that Astilla Prime Barrel, because I swear the Relic for it just doesn't exist

[@sylvaindorion5235]

Farm Hepit in void for lith relics, Ukko in void for meso and neo each mission take 1-2m, Lua disruption for axi you succeed 4-3-2-1 conduit def per rotation aabc at 4th rotation and following you defend 1 and fail 3 for guaranteed axi each run, also Marduk in void has 50% to drop axi.

[@hellduck1222]

I remember that a few years ago saryn prime was vaulted and in an event they give u 10 relics for every part and the chassis was a gold rarity , i farm 1000 traces to upgrade the 10 chassis relics and running a rad share team the chassis droped until the last relic we had in the team , in other words 39 rad trash relics and just 1 gold part

[@supersonicgamerguru]

A thing to note: if even one squad mate brings a relic that doesn't have any forma drops, then common formas on other relics have literally no impact on the expected amount of ducats compared to the "traditional" relic setup.

[@daveofyorkshire301]

Ducats isn't Do-kits it's duck-its... It's like hearing nails on a blackboard each time he says do-kits.. _(noun) Cash, money or bills, from "ducats": various gold coins formerly used in certain European countries_

[@DarchrowTheEnigma]

A bit late to this and I'm certainly a new Warframe player. What I noticed about my relic runs is that when I dont look for specific rewards, I will 100% get them. And when I actually do need specific reward they just wont give me. But I've only been doing T1 Void Fissures atm so the range of rewards arent that big yet. But so far I agree that refining the relics seems to have help reduce the amount of grinding needed to get Uncommon/Rare rewards. Just need a little bit more luck after refinements.

[@carsontodd2443]

I just started playing again after a few years and decided to open some of my vaulted relics and i got what I wanted each run. Can't get that with relics now. Edit: I got one of my squads a boar prime stock and even a war blueprint because Stalker noticed I was back in town since I killed the raptor a few years ago.

[@jonathangould189]

I'm curious about the chances of multiple people in a rad squad getting the same rare reward. Of course you can only choose one reward, so the possibility of wasting rare relics and traces when two people get the desired part is enough to scare me and my friends into running 2x, 3x, or 4x the missions, with only one desired relic at once. If everyone has radiant vaulted relics, how many more desired rare parts can we expect to get compared to running 4x the missions with one at a time?

[@zockertwins]

Running 4 times with one radiant relic each time does improve the number of rare rewards you could be getting from the relic. But it also drastically increases the time it takes to open them and is not worth it if you need the item only once. I believe you can find the math on the warframe wiki.

[@cykrya5156]

Its only worth it if the relic you farmed are few and vaulted, if not, then its honestly not worth it

[@GalacticEnigma]

RIP I didn’t even know you could choose out of the 4 at the end of the mission… I’ve seen other people get the item I needed

[@jstandsforjammy3426]

Relics are one of my fav parts of warframe, ngl. I love repititive gamemodes and modes I can auto-pilot whilst watching YT etc.

[@leotrog2441]

Same

[@Oscar_Kashima]

Make a video about whether to use galvanized acceleration or narrow barrel

[@Arcanefungus]

Finally someone explains the math

[@energyvanquish]

Managed to get 12 bronze forma ina row from radiants. Half of those being vaulted relics. Pure pain this game

[@TheFF7Encyclopedia]

trying to get a specific common. Proceeds to not get that common but get 3 rares... and running out of relics for the common i wanted

[@kaaius266]

Idk if this is the best time to say this but please do an updated fulmn build

[@danielnolan8848]

Supposedly running with less and less people boost the chance to get a rare or uncommon reward, not nearly as much as a dedicated group each running a radiant relic, even if that group only has one more person

[@eyywannn8601]

I’m gonna call bs on that

[@dekotahenn2103]

When I started i had no idea I could pick the same reward as other people and was afraid I'd not get a reward lol. Just recently I noticed everyone gets it 😭

[@AntholKinsidiousFoul]

damn feelsbadbro.jpeg

[@Tayrwhit04]

Literally opened full radiant squad and all we got were forma blueprints. Warframe I demand an explanation.

[@FatWhzFox]

ty captain obviously

[@Zickzii]

I believe I'm sitting on like 630 relics right now.. Time to find out how to spend my traces and time efficiently. xD