Are You REALLY Ready To Be Coached? [Challenger Coaching Zac Top]

[@LordTreyHowdy]

I truly don't understand why anybody in iron/bronze would pay for coaching at the price Neace asks. I think Neace brings a ton of value to anyone he coaches, but there is so much free content out there (on this channel!) that could get anyone to silver. Pick basic champs. Focus on CS. Fight when you're strong, defend when you're not. Take objectives. Play a lot of games. I am a bronze player and I am bronze because I don't do these things well and my volume is low. I already know that. Why on earth would I need to pay money to have someone tell me what they have already told me for free?

[@SoloTeamDirty]

Yeah its like paying for an NFL level personal trainer when you just watched your first game of football. Like youre not getting any real value out of it because you dont even know the very basics.

[@Nightlord700]

I think the content that he preaches will get you to diamond if you master the basics of league. Anything diamond + requires mastery of macro and micro aspects of the game.

[@highnoon2844]

Dude it's not just that. The videos that Neace posts alone are more than enough to pave you a path to higher ranks.

[@aFutureSelf]

I'm in Plat just from the videos Neace puts out and his fb stream and i barely play nowadays. I ignored all the bronze and silver coaching to save time. It's a skill in itself to know how to use the info you get being coached. Its also another skill to apply them in your games too. Goes for anything in life really.

[@burstmage6982]

@@automaticcaptions I think even in gold its a scam as by doing basic stuff you can get to plat but from plat on if you really need it it will be great

[@chadfranklin7033]

i already know what neace will tell me "stop getting drunk and playing league."

[@OnkyoGrady]

I'm just waiting for him to hear a bong rip in the background on one of these and catch a reaction.

[@gameguru42392]

Ppl who play ranked under the influence need a permaban from ranked queues like bye go play aram

[@chadfranklin7033]

please remember that this is a video game to play to have fun

[@Mikitwin2180]

I like that Neace had a lot of tact with the client. If you ask someone if they want to improve at anything, of course they will say yes. However, it is harder to know how much effort a person is willing to commit to improve. Hell, it is even sometimes hard to know ourselves how much effort we are willing to commit! However, this question is crucial to set realistic objectives and be able to improve efficiently.

[@jellyfish641]

Man for the first ten minutes I was really a bit confused why Neace is being so hard on him lol. The gameplay after that really showed that the client is genuinely very new to the game

[@ginomatos7626]

I'm just trying... to understand... what I'm watching LMFAO

[@xYo4hix]

I have seen like a shit ton of coaching videos and learned more than I'd by getting coached directly. Don't underestimate the value of watching all vods.

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

I personally believe that coaching is for hardstucks to break their plateaus. This guy is just starting out, which kind of defeats the whole purpose.

[@droknarnaramor8650]

I think it's better this way, learning how to do something 1. Much better getting bread out of microwave then throwing butter out of the window and asking if your way of making a sandwich is correct.

[@deadeyeridge]

Neace seems like the guy who really believes Full Metal Jacket drill sergeants are communication teachers.

[@itsshow710]

What did the client use instead of a keyboard o.O

[@Negativity808]

Xylophone

[@KahmannMan]

I got shit on by a yuumi mid once in gold 1 =(

[@evilerroryt8448]

I feel like getting coaching at the start is a bit overkill. Its always best to have fun with the game first before you pursue something higher. Heck I played teemo mid and went 10 / 0 surprisingly. Just have fun and use guides before using coaches. You don't need to do anything special to get out of iron or bronze (The kills come to you), just basic stuff gets you wins.

[@sahmadenn2165]

As an old Zac main, only at high Gold , with 1 mil+ points THIS HURST MY EYES SOOOOOO BAD

[@gameguru42392]

Im gonna get coaching eventually cuz ive been stuck in gold and need some guidance and probably a different mindset

[@Negativity808]

It was really helpful for me, I was a hardstuck plat1 d4 player and I managed to get master a couple times.

[@mattymx21]

No idea why he doesn’t play more games before ranked. That’s why iron bronze is shit storm. I played fill and got to upper silver just after about what 10-20 games?

[@burstmage6982]

Im surprised he has unlocked camera

[@johnmack7050]

did you see how clean his camera movement was though. he had to be using keys..... which is weird ive never seen that before.

[@buppen]

Why?

[@burstmage6982]

@@buppen Because platinum players and higher that had been coached by Neace had locked camera and struggle to get out the bad habit while this guy who is literally the bottom of the tier manages to do it.

[@Negativity808]

@@burstmage6982 as a starcraft player I had learned unlocked cam before my LoL days, but I'm master elo and I have a duo who plays locked screen in diamond 1, he's actually an azir player to. Mechincs make me look bad. Prbly a future challenger

[@burstmage6982]

@@Negativity808 I learned it from playing Eu4 so I can see how u learned it from other games

[@jelorer]

i dont have a job but im decent off and paid 180 for this coaching? nani the fuck?

[@Archimagus]

What was the device he was using? Now I'm curious?

[@LordTreyHowdy]

I'm not saying it's this, but it's like this www.amazon.com/Razer-Tartarus-Progammable-Detachable-Mecha-Membrane/dp/B07754PYFK/

[@vmlinuxz]

@@LordTreyHowdy I have a similar device to that sitting in a drawer somewhere, what a waste of money.

[@lastboi7102]

Yea, I have a friend that switches champions way too much, but whenever I tell him that, he just says he is having fun. Then he complains about not being able to climb. To each their own I guess. Idrc as long as you are having fun, but it is not fun to lose all the time :/

[@windup13ird60]

What does volume mean in this discussion? As in, him having more volume with Mundo than Zac?

[@andrethyst905]

I believe he's referring to the volume of creeps killed, but I'm not entirely sure.

[@fengliu975]

@@andrethyst905 volume means amount of games played...

[@Ezurial]

volume of games played overall. Mans be comin in with 40 games played and all like "why im not gold" basically you gotta play a ton if you wanna climb

[@z0mbiej0e34]

I really like zac top but I think you still max e first so you can actually help when ganged and roam

[@droknarnaramor8650]

Lowering your dmg for trades by like 60% to get more range for gangs that happens at around 3:00 and 5:00 in gametime, and isn't it better to just walk str8 line into enemy and save jump for combo with Q or as flash follow, and if you have longest dash in game but no dmg to finish off the job?

[@z0mbiej0e34]

@@droknarnaramor8650 could be wrong haven’t dont zac top in months but zac prob loses most trades top so my thought process is e let’s you assist with ganks and escape bad trades better. I just feel like any actual top liner will just beat your ass vs most trades

[@jeanninedemaeseneer1060]

Neace making the world a better place 😎.

[@noimnotnice]

This is what I'm thinking off when I see silver to low gold coaching. These players could be improving by watching videos and practicing their mechanics.

[@jakehouser1975]

It would honestly be more helpful for overall improvement of the players if he would tell the concept behind why he is doing certain things

[@gene3169]

you cant really explain everything during game bro . Its the same as playing a sport you dont hear your coach saying complicated directions during game. He explains stuff later at the replays anyway :D

[@Latedash]

I’m losing brain cells

[@andrewhaskins1763]

so first of all, he misses his W which is his blob generator to give him more hp. since blobs reduce CD for W he should spam it on minions. he tanked the wave also he wasnt focused on cannon. hes not using his Q to poke combo with W and pick up blobs during stun. he uses his E defensively which is perfect, only use E aggressively when you know you can execute the kill. but hes just not utilizing his blobs... which is zacs whole kit. ive been 10 hp in lane and blobs would get me back to 90% which is huge.. but not using E to get to lane faster is a big mistake too. he also winds up E when enemies areclearly standing on his body just spam E when that happens... he also hasnt been using R as a disposition but a pure knock up. stun them, then walk in front of them blocking their path to safety, then R. theres so many mistakes that i cant list because its so bad

[@left4deathmetal784]

Yuumi top lane pops off tho

[@left4deathmetal784]

Ive done it like 6 times in s10 and was 100% wr . You just kinda go on your carry after 6 cause she has no wave clear . Have to LH everything while poking in lane phase

[@KrisJMcG]

Maybe... he just really likes you and it has nothing to do with being on stream. Wanted to chill with the King of macro!

[@falandfriends4760]

If you don't buy a trinket it gives you a ward?!

[@nicholasstachelrodt1668]

?

[@BisonWeapon1911]

it gives to the ward trinket if you don't buy one

[@kitsuneking6969]

I play zac top and I just try to have fun. But the way this guy was playing was really upsetting to me.

[@miisterclutch5005]

I used to play Zac top and this is hard to watch even as a gold player

[@DJColdCutz_]

Im a zac (jg) main and it was infuriating how little he used his abilities.. W on like a 2 second cooldown and he'll use it once per wave.

[@Coolrocksta]

xD, i know i get a free ward. But i still waste my time anyway, just to make sure :D

[@brandongeyser6153]

Just kinda mean man

[@rasmusadamsen7998]

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