Are You Running Towards Injury Without Even Realising?

[@platosbeard3476]

I really appreciate you saying that _'if you're not getting injured, you don't have a bad technique'._ There's a lot of fearmongering about the 'correct' form and it leads to people getting hurt.

[@kimdecker8901]

You and Mary create some of the most instructive, actionable running content that I find on KZbin, and I can't thank you enough. I look forward to learning and improving my running--or just watching you two have fun--every time a new video drops! Satisfied subscriber here!

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Ahh thanks Kim, that’s very kind 😊

[@johnbuchanan578]

I’m loving these videos, I run to manage chronic pain caused by a car hitting me 15 years ago. I don’t compete, but the tips I pick up from you guys have made me faster and more resilient. Thanks and good luck in New York.

[@helibladerunner74]

I too got hit by a car . Twice not just once. First time was several decades ago as a very young guy playing football out in the street as a kid. The second time was about 20 years ago when I was hit it the left hip area by a car . I have delt with chronic hip and back pain ever since then. Strange and yet wonderful thing is that moving, stretching and yes even running seems to help it. I love all of these videos that these two share here with us and I read some of the comments from time time and find a commonality with some of what others have shared here as well. Yours being a perfect example. I have been for decades a practitioner of the martial arts to include Tai Chi and Qigong. So glad to see that so many others are benefiting from these videos as well. Awesome Stuff.

[@SportsBagBros.-yy7zz]

I am prepping for a half-marathon in December, using your 13 week plan. I am up to the 15k long run, which I completed this morning. It was an excellent run! Reminding myself to relax and just run is a key. Also, thinking about how my foot strikes and my posture makes running so much easier. I am 51 and doing well. I feel even better aerobically than when I was boxing as a teen and into my twenties!

[@Skapiemhe]

All the best for your half marathon!!!

[@mikestevenson1334]

Another great video! I can't believe how you hurt your hip from turning your hand backwards. Crazy how the body is linked :D - Do you have a video about IT band and hip exercises? I find those are parts which I sometimes have trouble with during a long run. Good luck with the rest of your marathon training!

[@N3wt199]

ive just finished week 21 of your 41 week Marathon plan, feeling pretty good about my running and enjoying it a lot 😁Thanks for your inspirational vids...

[@dresden_slowjog]

Your most important video so far. As a cheerleader at Berlin Marathon on km 38.5 /mile 24 for 5 hours I saw the STRANGEST running forms. One lady was leaning back I thought she really must be having 10 raw toes or sth. So many twisted / rotated their arms over the midline. I cue my little niece "swing your arma back and forth like a (steam) train (wheel rod), not like a tennis player".

[@joemathewson4198]

Nice video. Watching this as i eat my breakfast and have a half marathon in a couple hours. Cold and windy this morning. Gonna be great!😅

[@guillermovargas8564]

Hi, I'm running this year NYC marathon, too. I'm 61 y/o, and I'm following your training plan. So far, so good. Your plan is the only one that doesn't get me tired or injured. I love it...will it get me thru the finish line? We'll see...😅 I just have one question: On race day, do you keep an eye on your heart rate or pace or something else? Thank you for providing so much hope and advice to regular runners! Good luck on your NYC marathon!!!

[@amydepaul3039]

Excellent video. Ive been wanting one like this. I am working on making a change. My knee and opposite ankle are giving me pain. Thanks!!

[@sebastiand152]

Ben, how about a video about pain and sickness? You cannot just stop each run, when you feel the slightest sign of pain. And you would not run often, when you just start in moments, in which you feel perfectly fit and healthy. But of course, there is a kind/intensity of pain and there is acute sickeness, when you definitely should not run. How do you approach to destinguish between the extremes and where to draw a line to stop running? What is for you a good time to restart after sickness? And how do you ramp up intensity again?

[@bardongalang32]

I just want to say thanks, sir. There is a lot of information in this video that I really need to follow and focus on to improve my run. Thanks 🙏

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Thank you 😊

[@markknee4421]

Great advice, thanks, Ben (and Mary). The tip about using an interval process to change bad technique was especially helpful.

[@Noghri-vq7hb]

So i have to say a Huge thank you to the both of you, Just ran the Chicago Marathon as my first every marathon. I followed your training schedule pretty closely and your videos helped me with a lot of the unknowns about running, so thank you for all that you two do!

[@ellachadney3579]

Literally taking notes as I have a knee injury at the moment and I think it’s due to my technique. Going to try and implement some of these!

[@joemoya9743]

Nicely explained. Not being injured while running with bad technique is a good point but it omits the fact that better technique helps improve running efficiency.... BUT, what's the point if better technique causes an injury while poor technique does not. This is a very fair running form explanation.

[@mohithsubbarao2325]

Great video! I just completed my first half marathon after 3 months of training. Ironically, I picked up a right calf overuse injury when I got back into running too hard after the half marathon, so just focusing on functional strength training and walking now. It’s frustrating / depressing but trying to stay positive & grateful for what I can do. After I recover, I want to run a 10 miler! Speaking of, I’d love to see a video breaking down less popular race distances (8K / 5 Miler, 15K / 10 Miler). After completing my half marathon (which I loved), I wanted to try a 10 miler! Thanks!

[@mania-ll3yf]

Thanks you guys you are always motivating me to keep pushing, not only because show how much you enjoy running but you show the effort and the bad moment.

[@saharpng]

Thank you for clarifying that if we do not get enjured, our technique is not bad. I´ve been trying to change my heel strike, but it puts a lot of pressure on my shin to the point where it hurts.

[@wimkrol2233]

Thank you. Very interesting and helpful. I think that many injuries are caused by taking not enough rest.

[@MlayneeRutland]

Thank you Ben and Mary l really do enjoy these videos i learn heaps. I'm from New Zealand , The North Island, a little county town called Opunake .

[@Meta-Drew]

I've always appreciated having some some good fundamentals to work on in my form. I understand there may be no one 'perfect form' for everyone, but gosh does it get old hearing people say things like, "you don't need to learn how to run, it's natural" on the running subreddit when people ask for form tips.

[@genedollaway6466]

Great stuff. Really appreciate your insight.

[@ahmed_elalfy]

Excellent informative content - Love it! Will look out for you guys in NYM - Good luck!

[@siyabulelatshali1012]

The hand position when swinging🤞🤞🤞. Once i positioned my hand right my should and grion stopped hurting after a run.

[@johanrg70]

Thanks so much, as a new runner I'm starting to pick up a few minor pains here and there and this video helped me realise a few problems I have in my running technique. I'm still bad at the strength and conditioning part so I must get better at that. :)

[@davidrogers7787]

Awesome video guys, and would echo other comments about fearmongering. Just check out Kelvin Kiptum smashing the marathon WR over the weekend - look how he swings his fists across the centre line of his chest! If it’s not injuring you, don’t worry about it!!

[@ZeldaFitz]

Ben, you really have jumped the shark with them sunglasses

[@lilitalia777]

Thanks for the tips! I've been trying to work on shorter strides / increased cadence but like you said, focusing can get exhausting. I'm going to program my watch with some intervals next run. 👍

[@RunningToMyPast]

Thanks for the tips. Especially the one about lining your body up 😊

[@karvn1148]

Great video! I get hip pain when I walk but it doesn’t hurt much when I run. Is this bad walking form or bad running form?

[@melaniealessandrino3084]

Great video 🙏🙏. Do you have any tips for neck and shoulder pain when running? I try and check my posture as I run, however I still get pain and aching, drives me mad!!!! Any advice would be awesome….☺️🙏

[@AdiSenthil]

Love the vid, really helpful and useful. The oakleys tho mate are absolutely fantastic haha, love it !

[@HazzaP264]

Where are your running sunglasses from? Desperately want a pair… great video as usual

[@ThisMessyHappy]

They’re Oakleys 😊

[@totalgoals11]

Love them ❤

[@abbyschwendler1107]

I never realized I had a horrible crossover gait until I picked up a bad injury that wouldn't go away. Once I corrected that (with the help of doctors and physical therapists)I was finally able to start running again.

[@robiniddon7582]

Love your channel. Not sure I agree with the details of this video, though When you are running on a treadmill your upper body is stationary relative to the ground (just the same as if you were standing still), so it has no momentum. Momentum is mass X velocity. The velocity is zero. The lean may well help, but it's not momentum. Gravity causes acceleration. Perhaps that's what you mean? Consider that your lean is the same on road and treadmill, yet your momentum is very different in these two cases. Rotation is also necessary to run. Your pelvis has to rotate as you extend your leg behind and generate the force to push forwards. In the same way that you look to use the elasticity of your tendons and muscles to recover energy stored during the compression of landing, I suspect you use upper body rotation to counter the pelvis rotation and store some energy in the muscles in your back, shoulders and of course the arms, returning it at the next stage when you twist the other way. All bodies are different and upper body rotation will manifest differently in different runners, depending on size, weight, etc. Provided that the dynamic centre of mass is travelling forwards in as straight a line as possible, the upper body rotation is what it is to balance the hip rotation. All IMHO, obviously, as a very amateur runner and physicist 😂

[@MsRjutube]

I worry about you showing your house number in these videos…. Love the content. Stay safe and good luck for NY!

[@jools758]

I wish I could start running with my heels lifted but I can't work out how to do it. I assume I begin slowly then work it into my running like other changes, but it would be good to have a video about how to incorporate these techniques in for beginners.

[@peterneefus381]

I can tell when my shoes have worn out (maybe 300 miles) because one of my knees starts hurting. Which leads me to a question-does running in the rain on wet shoes wear out the cushioning faster?

[@garethmcguire632]

Them sunglasses are massive 🕶️

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Ha ha only things that fit over my big nose 👃🏼 😂

[@garethmcguire632]

@@ThisMessyHappy you see the pro cyclists glasses getting bigger and bigger there’s definitely airflow advantages 😜🏃‍♂️💨

[@revenantel]

I love your Videos but i have to admit the „aggressive“ (?) sound mix of this one was a bit to much for me. Nvm keep up the good work and good luck in NYC🎉

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Thanks! And sorry for the music. I know it winds people up sometimes 😊

[@nokwazishezi7580]

This lesson was hard now😢😢😢

[@aliasgharkhoyee9501]

IMPORTANT: There are a lot of top elite athletes (world record holders) who move their arms across their centre line kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaiqhq1-gdurZsUsi=4NCnLtnqQnMGdzOQ and leaning forward is meant to be from your ankles (not waist).

[@aliasgharkhoyee9501]

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[@David-cg7ms]

Hi lot of elite runners rotate and pass that line, this one is more a myth the KZbinr frederisken already talked about this

[@ThisMessyHappy]

It’s not a myth! It was literally part of my studies at university and my lecturer was a national team biomechanics expert and physio in a number of different sports/areas! What you’re referencing is some people who it works for. And let’s be fair, most elite runners get to elite level in part because of the consistency their own technique allows. I’m talking about techniques that aren’t generally advisable for the masses 😊

[@David-cg7ms]

THanks for the answer, I can't put the video link here but please see the "Hands in front of the body can be a good thing when running" video from @SpringSnabbare @@ThisMessyHappy

[@Berberien]

bro, please dont spread misinformation. the not crossing your centerline is wrong. look at the best runners in the world and they all keep their hands high and cross their centerline.

[@ThisMessyHappy]

It probably works for some of them. There are definitely not that many. But it’s not misinformation. There’s a lot of evidence behind it and biomechanics was also a bit part of my degree that backed that up.

[@Berberien]

@@ThisMessyHappy look at the fastest in the world, people who have pretty much perfect form. People should do whats natural and focus on not moving their shoulders. Focusing on moving your arms in a weird way will do negative things to your form.

[@ThisMessyHappy]

I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. Unless you haven’t watched the video? My whole point is that there is no such thing as a bad technique. Just a good or bad technique for you. So if you’re getting injured here are some things to look at as potential causes. So it feels like you’ve got the wrong end of the stick here 🤷🏻‍♂️😊

[@Berberien]

@@ThisMessyHappy I know. It's just that the arm movement is a thing that gets repeated everywhere and something other runners tell new runners because of it, so just telling you that you should stop preaching that exact thing and focus on keeping shoulders still instead. Its only bad crossing your center if your arms are shorter than from your ribs to your center, because that causes shoulder movement/twisting :)