Arex Delta Gen2: How Gun Designs Iterate and Improve

[@OTE_TheMissile]

"Over time, we realized that some people are, in fact, idiots." God if there was one sentence to summarize my career in manufacturing...

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

In every walk of life, Mike.

[@alexwalker2582]

As a mechanic I would like to introduce you to the channel Just Rolled In for the kind of idiots that I sometimes need to deal with.

[@drewcagno]

Preach on brother...

[@OTE_TheMissile]

@@alexwalker2582 I watch that too lol. Also the son of a 30+year retired GM service tech

[@BeingFireRetardant]

"Are in fact, idiots..." Highway and Roadway construction planners, seem to fit nicely under that sentence. Orange Barrel season is upon us, and the logistics are a majestic fcuking nightmare...

[@ralr]

It is as if Arex has watched years and years of forgotten weapons episodes and than made this pistol just to please Ian. :)

[@CalzaTheFox]

Or they understand what the contemporary shooter wants in a handgun, and it's easier to bake those elements into a new design..

[@MrKronikDeception]

Idk. Not in a weird French caliber. No wacky mechanical engineering. Not even a wacky historic background. Sounds like it's just a well designed handgun.

[@sorenlilienthal1368]

@@MrKronikDeception Lol! Apart from his interest as a collector of French/weird firearms, Ian is also an avid practical/military style shooter, who recognizes a well made and designed gun, when he sees and handles it.

[@MrKronikDeception]

@@sorenlilienthal1368 ...that's the joke...

[@sorenlilienthal1368]

@@MrKronikDeception I knew, you weren't serious.

[@brianwingo6472]

The improvement of a design over time is always interesting. 40+ years ago I saw pictures of the first cast iron bridge in England. They designed it just like a wooden bridge but the parts were made of cast iron. We all stand on the shoulder of the giants of the past.

[@Pinkscotti2005]

I’d like to see some more of these videos. First model vs current models are interesting insights into how designers see their products.

[@koi-irako]

bonus point for having both the red dot and the gun have the word delta in them

[@alexandertheok9610]

it's like matching pieces of armor in games

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

I really hope that the optic has a triangle reticle

[@erict3728]

Even more points for naming it to sound like it is mine

[@koi-irako]

@@CtrlAltRetreat hahahah

[@SavageShooter93]

Arex: We make stuff for people. Someone seriously needs to set up a manufacturing company and use that as their slogan. It would be hilarious.

[@jeffreystarits2783]

BASF already has, sorta . "we dont make stuff ,we make stuff better"

[@SlavicCelery]

Bic lighters being marketed by Snoop and Martha Stewart "For lighting your candles. And other stuff"

[@redlion145]

@@ProjectExMachina I honestly can't believe that a real company used that name for their meal replacement drinks. Cannibalism is just about the worst association you could have.

[@danielboyd1186]

@@ProjectExMachina 9th of 99

[@SavageShooter93]

@@redlion145 Sadly I don't think that many people would understand that film reference and those who do might think its funny more than anything. But soylent is actually from a book that has nothing to do with cannibalism its an abbreviation of soybean and lentil. In the book due to overpopulation basically all meat was of the "impossible" variety, plant based and just plain awful.

[@coolsenjoyer]

I can kinda understand why people weren't super into Glocks in the early days. The gen 1 frame kinda looks like toy grade plastic

[@stanislavczebinski994]

I think back when the AR15/M16 made its appearance in Vietnam with its Mattel-made plastic front handguard+no cleaning kits - the whole black rifle vs. brown rifle brawl started. Polymer tech has come a long way since then...

[@alexb7641]

The early days they were the Glock 7. You know what that is? It's a porcelain gun made in Germany. Dosen't show up on your airport X-ray machines, and it cost more than you make in a month.

[@peaceoutbruh7085]

@@alexb7641 You'd be surprised what I make in a month!

[@titiparisien7485]

@@alexb7641 ...😄

[@AshleyPomeroy]

@@titiparisien7485 Was that in the second film? It's hard to remember now but there was a time when Renny Harlin and Jan De Bont were major action film directors and Michael Bay was a minor figure.

[@robertfox1401]

I'm so happy to see my favorite youtbuer doing a review on a pistol I bought last year. I was going to get an iwi masad but I held this gun in store and it just felt so right I bought it without knowing anything about it. That's the same way I got my Bersa thunder 380. And these are my two favorite pistols to take to the range.

[@20xd6]

The whole innovation via iteration thing is so true. The arex looks so similar to many other pistols I've seen.

[@chadwickmorehead5115]

Ian, you can get a taller magazine release button direct from Arex. They also have a slightly weaker spring as an option. I have both on my Delta 2. Very nice and inexpensive upgrade. You can also put an L slide on an M frame, which is what I did. Gives you the ballistics and sight radius of a full-size, but the concealability of a compact. Also should note how thin the gun is. I ended up putting a compact red dot on it, because an RMR just hangs off the sides of the slide. The gun is essentially between a P365 and G19 in size. Great carry gun.

[@Fanuc_Operator1990]

My friend has an Arex Zero One and it felt great to shoot and I think Arex makes good looking pistols as well.

[@edwardbohlman3209]

Great video on my absolutely favorite subject... the evolution of pistol design. I bought a first generation Arex Delta after picking one up at a gun show. It had some weird angles and textures, but I loved the way it fit in my hand and it was REALLY light. Under 22 oz! The only significant issue I had was a very sharp edge around the lanyard loop. The Gen 2 pistols seem to correct this and some of the earlier gun's weirdness. But now I face the question... "Do I buy an improved version of a gun I already own?"

[@Nozzred]

Yes :-)

[@ivanklylustosa1425]

Se você já testou e funcionou perfeitamente tá comprovado a sua confiabilidade agora é só aproveitar uma melhor ergonomia. Ou se já tiver acesso aí armação nova. É só trocar o mecanismo. E tenha Sucesso.

[@flipzic]

I have an Arex zero One (because i could not afford a p226 but i love the sig ergonomics... And a very noce and play feature... The slide reales and the decocker are the same lever and has a 1911 style safe Is a very nice gun with a very nice box and very good color

[@jamesgilbert124]

I'd be curious to see the analytics on Gunbroker searches vs Forgotten Weapons videos. I'd wager there's a huge spike immediately after Ian profiles something and everyone (myself included) wanders over there to see if we might want to pick one up.

[@oso1165]

It's like this with other products too. Try finding a certain computer monitor or TV or cpu or whatever after a trusted reviewer releases a positive review video on one. Especially if it's a hidden gem that's not well known like this Arex

[@somebrains5431]

That a common marketing - content creator attribution dashboard now.

[@jamesgilbert124]

@@somebrains5431 I'm aware. I feel like Ian's stuff is a bit different. For every Arex Delta Gen2 or DeserTech MDR, there's a couple of dozen weird designs that are out of production or are registered and way beyond reach for most people.

[@michaelbowers5167]

I bought an Arex delta gen2 when they first came out and i absolutely love it.

[@creation_nono]

Fun fact: Arex is located like 100km from glock’s factory in Ferlach.

[@Denkin_Donuts]

Glad arex is getting love. They’re definitely underrated. Love my Rex

[@TheEyeOfStone]

I own two Delta Gen 2's, the M compact frame. They're exact duplicates, down to the color. One is my duty weapon and one is my EDC. I'm not an optics guy and we're not allowed to have them on our duty guns. Fortunately, Arex does make some of these without the cut in the slide. That's just better - for me - . I have two of the fifteen round mags but I have a bunch of the 17 round mags and those are what I run. I used to be a big Glockhead, but I profoundly agree with Ian that this is a good case of iterative improvement. The Delta does everything a Glock 19 does and it does so in a way that I prefer, having a lot of experience with both platforms. I've never had a single malfunction, and my Delta EDC is a bit easier to conceal on my scrawny person. I personally have noticed some improvement in my accuracy as well. I can't recommend these highly enough, and I hope they are able to get some market footprint here in the USA.

[@Horgler]

It's getting a lot harder to justify getting an FN or HK now that we have optics-ready options like the METE, Delta Gen2, and APX A1 that can be found for under $500.

[@Fanuc_Operator1990]

That's what I'm saying dude, Arex and Canik are KILLING IT! however nothing can beat the feel of a nice HK or CZ Shadow.

[@kungfukitten6735]

@@ProjectExMachina I also want to pay rent and not eat ramen

[@SuperAnimekid]

@@kungfukitten6735 I feel the same way. Only reason I haven't gotten the gen 2 canik with optic cut out. Still love my gen1 though

[@madeconomist458]

Add the PSA Dagger and other G19 clones to that list. Depending on when you buy the parts, you can get into a no-shit optics-ready G19 clone for under $300 if you buy from PSA and Combat Armory.

[@dravidiantommylinson3880]

I agree from a market standpoint but until they can match a +p durability test to the level the HKs are known for I wouldn't put them on the same playing field. Great for the entry level! So happy to see so many new 2nd amendment exercisers

[@marcusayala6933]

Love your content Ian! Keep it up! I also am really fond of how often you post

[@12spies]

Great video, love the breakdown of industry progression. The "Alpha" is their competition version 👍

[@NickBebs]

16:15 "Not falling fo it" "Should`ve fallen for it maybe" Such comedic timing

[@gannonsowner]

Cool video. My experience is the GenII Arex Delta is one of the best pistols on the market & a crazy good value for the $. Lighter, more ergonomic, better trigger, & more features than a Glock for less $ is quite a feat. It's worth mentioning that they are extremely durable & reliable as well.

[@jurealeksejev3568]

I was born in Slovenia, I lived in Slovenia for 22 years and I never heard of Arex! It's truly amazing I only learned of the company from my homeland via an American.

[@mortified776]

02:14 This! There is a potentially infinite number of ways to build a gun, but the ways that actually work are very finite. Even if no-one copied each other, we all have to make our guns according to the same laws of physics out of the same 92 natural elements; design convergence would be inevitable.

[@george5156]

If cop weapons were radioactive they wouldn't be used and stolen as much

[@ab5olut3zero95]

For the Rex Zero1 to be their first gun, Arex knocked it out of the park. They’re good, reliable, accurate, easy to maintain- everything you want in a handgun. And I see the HK/Sig melding/cloning as a plus- I found Arex while hunting for an affordable Sig back in the day. Never tried the Delta or Alpha series, but they definitely have my interest.

[@OhioCruffler]

When part of Yugoslavia Arex made parts and tooling for the Zastava factory who was making the pistol. When Yugoslavia broke up, Slovenia (home of Arex) needed a pistol so they upgraded the Zastava and started making the whole thing.

[@Echowhiskeyone]

Design and build a gun to MAKE IT WORK. After it works, improve it and do the fine tuning to make it better. Continue to improve, but never lose focus.

[@worldtraveler930]

I second that motion!

[@Echowhiskeyone]

@@ProjectExMachina Yep. And near everything else.

[@comanche6943]

Luv my Delta M excellent design and performance. Have been carrying and using Glock 19’since 1996. The ARex is a very pointable CCW alternative. Some of the big gun-tubers/tactical-tubers (sponsored by Sig et al) have turned their noses up at the Delta because of the low price point calling it an “economy “ pistol. The Delta can and will hold its own or out perform any Shadow Systems Gucci Glock, Sig 320 or HK variant at a fraction of the cost. Trigger will smooth out in 500 rounds or dry firing. Will fit most G 19 holsters. CYA’s work good older gen Bravo Concealment fit like a glove, even Kirkpatrick leather for Sig 220 fit well.

[@shitwardtesticles4840]

I am turning 18 soon and looking to buy my first handgun. Fortunately, Maine allows me to do that. Would you recommend a Delta as a first handgun? I have been looking at one for a hot minute and I really like the design.

[@Horgler]

How is the recoil on the Gen2? I've heard some say that it's a bit snappy because of how light they are compared to similarly sized pistols.

[@toastycarpet9873]

I think glock stopped innovating once they held the market and I think the delta Gen 2 will finally lead to glock genuinely improving their firearms

[@comanche6943]

@@shitwardtesticles4840 absolutely recommend, study manual of arms, learn to use the iron sights well before jumping on the red dot bandwagon. I got a great price of mine from DK arms in Virginia, global ordinance in Sarasota the Arex distributor I’m sure they can help you out finding a local dealer. Best of luck.

[@comanche6943]

@@Horgler personally I’d put the snappy comments down due to the fact that it is slimmer and a bit lighter then a Glock 19. My two cents the slide being a little bit lighter just gives it a different feel recoil wise but nothing to fear no problem shooting 500 rounds in a session. Not sure but the recoil spring may be a little heavier than Glock 19 GEN 3, interestingly the Arex guide rod will fit in a Gen 3. Hope this help’s.

[@mascadadelpantion8018]

Right off the bat in the intro to this video!! This whole video is just straight up a great standard example of what forgotten weapons is all about

[@Behappyyou43]

This and the styer m9 pistol series have so many things in common. I'd love to see you're views on the steyr handguns!

[@madeconomist458]

I have this (almost) exact pistol. My only complaint is I don't much care for polymer mounting plates, and indeed I actually broke the OEM plate that this came with by using the screws that came with my optic. Luckily you can get aluminum optics plates from Calculated Kinetics that fit the RMR, Docter/Noblex, and Shield pattern.

[@socmonki]

Just beware...they sent screws, but they were too short for me. NBD, since my Holosun had screws I could cut down to work. But not even 2 threads of engagement = not a secure optic!

[@asthmaticfish]

The Delta Gen 2 seems like one of those guns you’ve seen before but you just can’t put your finger on it, so glad that Ian finally covered it.

[@edmoverlord8588]

My arex delta m2 is my favorite conceal carry weapon never has failed on me! Love it to death!

[@CHEECHMUN]

You always explain perfectly. I knew you could change out the frame, but never saw anyone do it. This is simple!

[@TimberwolfCY]

I remember not too terribly long ago, Ian *hated* dealing with spinner targets. Now he takes them on like a champ. Bravo sir!

[@evnrayash]

The delta series is the best budget gun on the market. Optics ready pistol on sale for 350. I’m running a 3.5# Glock striker spring paired with a polish job gets me a 4# nice trigger.

[@LowMS3]

I just picked on of these up at a show and mine is stained navy blue! I've so far not seen another one like it!

[@jeffreyplum5259]

The touch of double action, that is the fact the trigger completes the cocking of the striker is a very smart safety idea. The removable serial number module means special feature lowers are easy to exchange. One lower type possible would have an extended mag release designed in. You do not have to torture the original lower to fit the modified feature. On most guns such a change would be a gunsmithing job. and irreversible. . Another nice video.

[@naizeylines]

as a Slovene i never clicked on one of your videos soo fast

[@davidgamer5471]

isto

[@stas7378]

Enako!

[@damirblazevic4823]

Wow! Almost half of the population of Slovenia actually commented here 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Tnero-nt7ne]

seveda

[@alexikid]

im a huge arex fan. my zero one is my favorite pistol by leaps and bounds

[@Indica_Cobra]

I personally love the acss reticle in the holosun 509c, crisp, clean, intuitive

[@davisjames8484]

I just don't like how the curvature causes some weird refraction in the sight.

[@richardtravalini6731]

It was really nice seeing you, the gun and the target in the same frame. I know that there are many people besides me, that you made very happy. Great video and pretty good shooting. However, you might have to change the name of your channel from Forgotten Weapons to Forgotten and Current Weapons.

[@mrheart4242]

Ok. No issue with the firearm. I like it. The red dot. I work and carry in a bad environment for them. I have not broken one. But the dust, dirt, mud, and muck. Tend to cover the sighting window. I'm talking a barn environment. Fixed sights with no glass work for me. Love the show.

[@konstantin.v]

6:10 What happens if you *disassemble this gun while loaded* with the striker cocked? Will the striker hit the primer with the insufficient force to detonate? 🤔

[@v0n1b0]

I don't know if it's mentioned in any of the previous hundreds of comments, but extended magazine releases in ambi, right only and left only are available for

[@johnpatrickmcp]

There have been two of those sitting on the shelf of the shop where I work for a while. I have liked the way they feel in the hand but wasn't sure about them. Might finally have to take one home.

[@FalloutAce]

Favorite pistol of mine. Have well over 2k rounds with no issues. Can’t wait for the tactical version to come out.

[@texasranger24]

6:40 most important quote of the video, maybe ever

[@2Aknight762]

While the Alien pistol is a marvel of pistol engineering, at $5000+ you dont get that much more in performance over a $500 modern pistol.

[@SynchronizorVideos]

Especially not for the average shooter.

[@SuperVeeZee]

@@SynchronizorVideos absolutely correct. For the average shooter, they'll get very little out of the increased cost. But that gun, or even $2500 Staccato's, aren't for the average shooter. The cost of performance is exponential. Horsepower and land speed is a good example. You might need 100hp, as a made-up example, to go 100mph. But you want to go 550mph? You don't need 550hp. As a REAL example, I did a little work on the Target 550 car. At that time, it had two 500cu. in. Keith Black Hemi motors, each with a Whipple supercharger, putting out about 2500hp each. That's what they needed to get that fast. So, at the top end of performance, you might only get a single-digit percentage improvement, but it will come at a dispraportionate expense.

[@johnharlow486]

Law of diminishing returns is the phrase I think you are looking for.

[@bodyno3158]

@@SuperVeeZee For the average shooter, an average gun outshoots the shooter. Products like Alien and Tanfoglio are for shooters that can outrun an average gun, and for when that little bit of extra performance juice really matters.

[@SuperVeeZee]

@@donovanchilton5817 uhh...what? An Alien? I doubt it. If you can find an Alien for less than 5k to your door, you'll do alright. What gun are you talking about?

[@newpeupyoass]

Walther had a pretty good solution for the "pull trigger to disasemble gun" problem on the P99. Too bad LEOs asked them to make it more Glock like.

[@justindunlap1235]

My ruger sr9c has a good solution for that, with the slide locked back you push the ejector down and forward into the magwell, that drops the sear down so the slide can slip right off the frame. If you forget to lift the ejector during assembly it will return to its proper position when you insert a magizine.

[@bagochips834]

Glock geeks bully every other company into basically making Glock clones

[@RockSolitude]

What was the solution they used before they changed it?

[@newpeupyoass]

@@RockSolitude the P99 has a DA/SA striker sistem with a big decocker button on top of the slide.

[@showtime2629]

My striker indicator just broke off the other day and I was about to look up where I can buy parts from, and now this video!

[@agricola]

Global ordnance might have what you seek

[@showtime2629]

@@agricola thank you

[@theax40]

It's like the CZ P10c. Just a Glock that comes from the factory already with all the mods that people have to do to their Glock with aftermarket parts.

[@fmlymn1]

All the P10c needs is to break the edge on the mag catch and trigger safety and it becomes a pleasant tool to use.

[@crabmansteve6844]

It's crazy that in 2022 we're always so happy when a gun is ambi. Anything that's not a bolt gun should be designed ambi without fail in this day and age.

[@gulkash1188]

As an Arex DELTA M owner and daily carrier myself, I still fully ensure clear on the pistol before disassembling it. Yes, the striker is not fully cocked, BUT it still drops. The only big thing that Ian didn't touch on is that the striker cocking indicator is actually attached to the striker, and protrudes through the back of the gun when the trigger is pulled. so, when holstering, riding your thumb on the endplate will alert you to anything pulling that trigger, the same way as you would with a double action single action pistol! it's a nice bit of security for re-holstering, especially in the appendix position.

[@johanj3674]

I don't understand it. Yes idiots are everywhere. But still. Remove the magazine when you're done shooting. Clear the chamber. Then when you're about to disassemble or whatever, check there's no magazine, check the chamber and you're good to go. Whether it's a pistol or rifle. Everytime always. Or just don't get a gun in the first place.

[@garycharland3018]

I have an Arex Delta and have found that it is a very good pistol, especially for the price.

[@Covert_Arrangements]

I’ve thought about this for a long time regarding innovation and design. Other than carbon copies of firearms made prior the pistol I carry and trust my life with is the FN 5.7. It’s (IMO) the most innovative cartridge and pistol design in years. Excellent gun , very light with 22rds carry IWB what’s not to love.

[@scoutmastert.7181]

the price and potential scarcity of 5.7

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

Devils advocate: 1. Most people find that gun too big to carry consistently without printing, particularly in the summer with a t shirt on. Too long of a grip. Bigger guns are less comfortable to be carrying all day, which is why the single stack 9mm/micro compact like the P365 is what most people settle on. Maybe you are an exception and you religiously carry a full size gun all year long, and if you are, that’s great. 2. As others have stated, cost and availability of ammunition. Availability of the best ammunition that has the ballistics that 5.7x28 is capable of is rarely sold to civilians. The cost in particular is an issue for most because handgun skills require continuous practice and become stale quickly. With shot placement being so critical with handguns (see comments in 3 below) practice under some sort of pressure (like under the clock) is far more important, and that requires practice, and most don’t have the disposable income to spent 3x more than other calibers to do so. 3. Ballistics. In watching gel tests, the cartridge doesn’t seem to be moving fast enough to do damage like a rifle would out of a pistol length barrel. This is particularly true with the reduced load ammunition readily available for civilians. So you are left with poking very small holes in someone, something that 9mm, 40, and 45 do just as well. 5.7x28 was designed to go through body armor 30 years ago. That body armor has now improved and it doesn’t accomplish that goal anymore. 4. Capacity and less recoil are slight advantages, but at the distances most gun fights happen in, and the number of rounds fired, this becomes almost irrelevant from a practical perspective. Those are great guns, accurate, reliable, durable. At the end of the day, if you are comfortable with it and like it, carry what you like.

[@elementalist1984]

@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 excellent reply, however. My problem with sub-compact and micros is that they are too small for my hands. Ironically I don't even have really big hands, I wear a medium or small glove depending on the manufacturer. But most of the time my pinky hangs off off the small Glocks and other compact pistols. Living in a state that allows open carry I'd rather carry a full size pistol and not worry about trying to conceal it over carry a small gun that I don't like shooting but can conceal. It really doesn't help that I don't like carrying anything smaller than a 40 cal pistol, I normally carry my 45 or 10mm.

[@elementalist1984]

@@scoutmastert.7181 true, personally I want to get a 7.5 Brno but I doubt the ammo will be affordable for a few years considering that I think it's only being manufactured by one company.

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

@@elementalist1984 makes sense, all about what you are comfortable with and if you want a more powerful caliber than 9mm. I’ve found when I first picked up the smaller guns (example: smith and Wesson shield plus), I wasn’t comfortable at all with them until I put around 300 rounds through them after I was convinced by a friend to try it. With my hands, average sized, I can get a full grip (barely) on that size of gun. No smaller though. For those with bigger hands, you can always put the larger magazine in the gun for extra purchase, and, judging by your hand size you described, I bet that would definitely get you a full purchase on the gun, which in the case of the shield plus would be a 13 round magazine. There are guns smaller than that that do have a pinky dangling like the G43 or Beretta APX carry/Nano, and we definitely agree on those. Just something to consider, if you shoot 10mm, you’d be able to shoot a smaller 9mm pretty darn well. You may know this, but There is also a smith and Wesson shield in 40 and 45 as well. I thought each would be brutal recoil wise, but they really weren’t bad. You lose a significant amount of capacity with those though because there isn’t a plus version. With open carry, I worry I’d be a target for someone to try to take the gun, particularly if they were armed as well. Can’t watch everyone in public 24/7. Guns are almost good as cash on the criminal market. Its somewhat similar to walking around with a $300 hanging out of your pocket, tempting to criminals. Worst case scenario, you’re the first guy that gets shot if some crazy person wants to cause a group of people harm. I live in a more suburban/urban area, a lot of this risk is less if you live more rural. Thanks for the discussion, I really like your 5.7x28 pistol, you can really run those things fast.

[@Jbowling6]

I’ve had both gens of the arex and both were flawless in reliability and great shooters. I carried the gen 2 M with a holosun 407k for a while and loved it. $425 out the door for what would cost $600+ in a Glock

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@tincup8144]

I was literally thinking about buying this for the last couple of years because its cheap and it has everything I'd ever want on a pistol....but now the price is probably gunna go up. :( Great video though.

[@TisFenton]

DoubleMDefense typically has them starting at around $400 depending on model and features

[@socmonki]

Get one now! Plenty of places to get one under $400. Do it!

[@socmonki]

@@TisFenton Thats where I got mine. $394 for the FDE Gen 2 L.

[@tincup8144]

@@socmonki Definitely gotta check it out then. Thanks!

[@tincup8144]

@@TisFenton Definitely gotta check it out then thanks!

[@griffn14]

Slovenian brutality? There will probably be a stage with polka playing on full blast. I can not imagine anything more brutal than that...

[@gregorypaulbox3035]

😂

[@lawrencehudson9939]

Now that the firearms have developed to where you can get a good reliable pistol for well under $500 we need to find a way to make the ammunition cheaper too especially when you design a gun that holds 17/19 rounds.

[@nipplecream3099]

still waiting on polymer ammo to be reliable

[@ostiariusalpha]

As far as pistol ammo goes, the NAS³ case design from Shell Shock would be cheaper than brass if anyone ever actually invested in mass producing enough of it to get a good economy of scale going.

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@nipplecream3099 True Velocity's polymer ammo has been good-to-go for years.

[@alexwalker2582]

Not much more you can do for that unless we can get at least one lead smelting facility restarted here in the states. That's where a lot of the cost is coming from with regards to ammo, we have to import the lead for the bullets.

[@steveshumate1983]

@@alexwalker2582 really? No where in the US do we smelt lead for bullets? That is kind of staggering

[@NielMalan]

First time I've seen a coloured follower in a magazine. Makes inspection for an empty gun so much easier!

[@Atma_Weapon]

comment for the algorithm so more people can watch this awesome channel and learn more stuff. bonus points for having a +2 magazine of awesomeness.

[@Jackedhobbit]

I always enjoy it. Looks like you’ve been improving your spinner game.

[@WilliamGrayIV]

Arex makes an extended mag release that was a must as I could barely use the stock mag release. The slide release is also too small and I haven't found a way to improve it. There's an issue of a lack of holster availability and aftermarket. I was able to use a Glock 19 Pegasus holster with okay retention, but there was some play. For IWB with a light, the Concealment Express XFER holster did well as it only clips onto the light itself. I still use one with an HK P30 and find it to be comfortable. I do like the mags, disassembly, thin grip, and interchangeable grips. It felt comfortable and is well priced.

[@freedomlineman3105]

ANR designs make light bearing holsters for the Arex Delta. Good quality at a fair price. I have one for my Delta and my CZ P07.

[@peaceoutbruh7085]

Ian, you're not incorrect that the Rex Zero is a P226 copy, but it goes a lot further than that. Its a direct clone of the Zastava CZ99 / EZ9, with very little alterations. The CZ99 was the one that stole from the P226 and the Walther P88.

[@kingwiththeax6880]

Well done. I thought I was the only one that remembered the Cz99, when I saw the Zero 1. The exposed, metal backstrap and the controls differentiate the Zero from the p226. What was the original US offering of the Springfield XD? Most people forget that one too, but I recognized it immediately. I remember the first time I held one at a gun show in the late ‘90s.

[@peaceoutbruh7085]

@@kingwiththeax6880 HS Produkt HS-2000

[@altergreenhorn]

Not really namely the constructor of Zastava 99 Blagojevic designed CZ 99 sucesor, however Zastava arms wasn't interested in buying the plans for it, so he sold it to Arex.

[@wasatchdan]

I've been pretty impressed with my Delta X. So many nice little features that my Glocks just don't have, in a cheaper package.

[@RealityCheckGA]

I picked up a Arex Zero 1 S from Dicks Sporting Goods for $ 399.99 new. Added Tritium Night Sights and some G10 Grips and I love the Gun. It's a Solid Firearm at an Incredible Price.

[@mattfleming86]

Slovenian WonderNine! I need to pick one up. I've wanted one for years. They are well designed and seem to be rock solid. And that peanut butter grip frame makes me happy. Edit: Regarding the magazine release.. Having ran over a magazine with a lawnmower, secure retention is more important. :-) I'm a lefty and it's a pain to be limited to holsters that cover the magazine release.

[@drumminggoose444]

I have never particularly liked striker fired pistols, but I really want one of these

[@domenik8339]

These really are taking the best ideas of various guns and slapping them all into one package. Easily my favorite striker fired gun of all time, the only one I really took seriously after decades of using hammer fired pistols.

[@Robert5hw]

I paid around $375 (with shipping) in April 2022 for the Delta M without the optic cut. Found it on an Easter Sale.

[@chickenalleyfarm]

I am really enjoying my delta M. I just had to go crazy with oil and douse the gun to smooth everything out. When I get the L I am going to polish everything.

[@williamflowers9435]

The Arex Zero’s breakout performance was acing the MAC Gauntlet. Surprisingly is did substantially better than the Sig P226 MK25. Fwiw… it’s really crazy to see, from a 2022 perspective, how much ammo Tim and others would burn through regularly back then. Now it’s getting to the point where it’s too expensive to drive to the range, much less get any meaningful practice in☹️

[@STRAKAZulu]

As one of those idiots, having a way to disassemble for cleaning without pulling the trigger is a MUST!

[@Chilicharger665]

Or don’t be an idiot.

[@Ding_Bat]

LOL. Thank you for your honesty. 😉😉

[@STRAKAZulu]

@@Ding_Bat I wear the casing as a medallion to remind myself about the time I almost made my son a orphan.

[@Ding_Bat]

@@STRAKAZulu Scary indeed. As Abe Lincoln once said: “Lessons not learned in blood are soon forgotten.” Glad you’re still in once piece! Personally, disassembling a cocked weapon is a no-no, no matter what. What’s going on, or not, inside your weapon is something you need to know and be aware of, no matter what. But that’s a lecture for another time. 😉

[@papsi89]

I think something cool and interesting about the swappable grip module, is that if for any reason, the grip gets damaged, it's a lot easier to replace the grip module, instead of the whole gun, and you can just get the grip module shipped to your home. so that would be a big plus in my opinion. on the topic of the red dots, I personally like that people have the option to mount a red dot on their guns, but for me, since I have an astigmatism in my right eye, dominant eye, I can't actually use a red dot. so for me personally, I like when a company makes a version that is slightly cheaper without the red dot mount, since it's a feature that I can't take advantage of, and would rather put the small difference in price towards another magazine or 2.

[@sproutpits]

I love this gun, too. I do have a couple of criticisms though: 1. If you pull the trigger from the middle, as opposed to near the tip, it's possible for the safety not to fully depress, causing a jerky takeup. I had to consciously move my trigger finger down to avoid this. 2. I have small hands, so I always have to adjust my grip and brace with the palm of my hand on the opposite side of my thumb. This puts my palm against the other side of the mag release, making it impossible to actually push the release with my thumb. Again, it's just a training issue, but I'd rather not have this issue.

[@kennethbrantley9582]

I have that gun only mine is a compact model the gun is beautiful and shoots good I just wish they made a threaded barrel for it

[@wjbrooks19]

I served with an “idiot” that shot himself in the hand disassembling a Glock. Looking back, yeah, he was all around pretty stupid. He made my life as an infantry NCO harder than it needed to be.

[@bodyno3158]

Shot himself in the hand and pull trigger to disassembly.... My brain immediately had a picture about how it happend...

[@ab5olut3zero95]

Had a guy like that under my command too. He was generally a pretty good Joe, but when he screwed up it was a whopper…

[@martingardener90]

I always thought that as an NCO it was your job to make everybody elses life hard! 😂

[@wjbrooks19]

@@martingardener90 soldiers usually only get what they dish out. You look, smell, and act like a piece of shit, you are going to be treated like a piece of shit. If you have heart, and want to be trained, you will get trained and gain respect from your peers and leadership. You can usually spot early who is going to be trainable, and who won’t be. This guy fell into the latter category. For that, he caught hell from me and other NCOs. He deserved it, he asked for it. Fortunately for him, he was too stupid to realize that everybody couldn’t stand him. Fortunately for us, we didn’t deploy again until he got discharged (honorable). I am actually amazed that he managed to survive garrison, let alone a combat deployment. Oh well, that was 15 years ago. That guy probably found some other way to get himself killed in the civilian world, and I don’t really care to know.

[@wjbrooks19]

@@ab5olut3zero95 like my 1SG used to always say “If you f@#k up, it better be worth it.”

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@oregonborn9769]

This was great video. Will you be covering the x16 perun

[@JaredBallou]

tbh that first spinner getting three quick hits before coming back down was more impressive than simply spinning it.

[@bartcalder2791]

I have the Gen 1 and has been a great pistol. I don't understand, at the price point of these guns, why they are not more popular. Am a lefty, had a Sig 320 (1st gen) and it never worked right with the ambi slide controls. This one, just works. Same with the slide release.

[@PierceyeG]

I came within a cat's whisker of picking up the Gen 1 for my first pistol. Had it been six months further down the road I would have gone that route. I just didn't want to be in the position of relying on a relatively unknown quantity for a defensive weapon.

[@coreymerrill3257]

That is such an awesome concept . Is the trigger/ firearm component able to be paired with any caliber or is it just for 9mm/380/32 ect ?

[@samweber1265]

the price certainly is attractive

[@TheSilliestGoose516]

That optics system sounds an awful lot like the mounting plate system FN pioneered with the 509 series. Wild how everyone had started following the concept, including glock themselves. Pretty cool

[@tictacguy7899]

I think you mean the FNP series that started the plates and mounts.

[@rdb8509]

Dang! That is some snappy looking recoil.

[@billrowan1957]

😯 = when I saw the slide come off.

[@nealgold8442]

Great video and content

[@myronalcock4716]

Wow, impressed. Cool video!

[@Kazuhira2249]

this is like the last pistol you unlock in a game

[@andrewdenzov3303]

Ian: I hate spinners!!!! Also Ian: spinner is a great target practice!

[@Wind_slash0]

I love spinners. The amount of effort they put into staying fit!

[@xavierh.5102]

I'm amazed at how many striker fired handguns are fully cocked. as far as I know only the glock, delta, and the p10c have partially cocked strikers. sure most pistols seem to be safe anyways, but I bet the p320's early issues wouldn't have been as dangerous if it wasn't basically single action.

[@joemackey8859]

O was in the Navy with a guy who tried to clean a loaded pistol and sent a bullet and his cleaning tool through his hand and his shoulder.. Full arm cast with finger anchors for months.

[@romanbezensek7595]

Greetings from Slovenia.

[@Awolf3766]

Greetings from New Jersey U.S.A., which part of Slovenia?

[@romanbezensek7595]

@@Awolf3766 Central Slovenia, Ljubljana.

[@Awolf3766]

@@romanbezensek7595 ahh yes, a very beautiful capital city I must say, been there a few times.

[@ethanjensen6802]

Ian didn't miss that one round in his first volley. It went through a previous bullet hole.

[@cameronfelkel377]

Most of FN strikers you can remove the trigger assembly and it's serialized as well as the frame kinda dumb I know but most MRD models have a packet of riser plates and smith mounts if you want to take the micro red dot off. Glad most companies are doing what the car market have been doing for a hundred years or so. Thanks Ian!

[@larryharless7804]

That's pretty darn good shooting.

[@brorjordas1979]

Wow. An awesome video. Awesome pistol too it seems. It surely presented features that I like. I would not say no to one of these..

[@acarrillo8277]

If we are wondering into refined polymer pistols, how about the Steyr series? They were designed by Gaston after he left Glock.

[@peaceoutbruh7085]

That doesn't mean a lot. I've read "Glock: The Rise of America's Gun". Gaston Glock was a real asshole and not the best gunsmith either. He was very adamant that his guns did not have any issues, and when early .40 cal Glocks were exploding he said it was user error. He was involved in dirty shit and pulled guns on his employees at least once. The dude's only real redeeming quality was that he was new to the trade, so he was willing to innovate. After he was no longer new, he quit innovating and focused on keeping sales up.

[@acarrillo8277]

@@peaceoutbruh7085 Huh good to know, personally I cant stand Glocks mainly due to the fanboyism and trigger. Steyr pistols are still pretty good though so I would still like him to do a piece on them.

[@de3481]

The Gen2 Delta OR pistol is by far the most bomb-proof pistol design on the market. They need to ditch the plastic plates for metal ones with a better screw assortment. Good thing Calculated Kinetics has that part covered.

[@markmccoy2559]

I have been following the spinner saga with great interest.😁