Arguing With A CHP Officer Over Chains On My CMV.. How Did They Get By Without Chains??

Filmed Feb 28th 2023
Mike Pierce
P.O. Box 244$
Granby C0 80446

[@ihatebean11]

I appreciate you showing these videos in snow. Only a rookie with 2 years so it's nice you showing the snow vids

[@us1fedvet]

Great series. Love your civilized and engaging summaries. Your dry humor is appreciated. Be safe.

[@Magic4C]

This definitely Cools ya down Watching in the Summer ..🌞

[@Scott_From_Maine]

It sure does. I was hiking in the heat and humidity today. This is when seeing snow is a good thing. I already see plenty in winter here.

[@paulson6270]

I love your snow videos!! It's awesome riding shotgun with you. Never been Out in the area you travel. Stay Safe.

[@justachipn3039]

👍👍

[@thomasmaughan4798]

11:30 Encounter with CHP requires chain-up. 40.657138 -120.274027 not shown is the actual chain-up in a chain up area 1/10th mile farther south. We rejoin the narrative as he approaches the rest stop. The slope is gentle, 800 feet down in 5 miles.

[@mikeservais888]

Thanks MMM good video. I used to run some roads like that and with good tires you could go but in daytime get slowed way down. Peace!!.

[@debbieosborn9464]

MMM your the man on the snow and ice! Glad your back to posting!

[@ecole3139]

Hi Mike... Brrrr! Cold weather, whilst we are roasting in UK!. Thnks for the trip, as always ... Take care x🇬🇧 6:39

[@FrancesBraam-et1wx]

Missed your videos. Hope to see more.

[@13699111]

It has to be painful being passed then fighting a clock trying to get to a parking place.

[@wadebarber6493]

Thanks for the show. Love your work.

[@sofakingrad3530]

If there is a body in the road, perhaps he could do everyone a favor and pick it up? Or at least mark the guys wife with a flare? I love it when a 20 year old cop that has never driven a truck, tells a decades old experienced mountain driver, how to drive a truck in a mild snowstorm.

[@rayray4192]

Not 20 years old sparky. Officers that work Donner Pass and 395 are seasoned veterans. Officer didn’t instruct super trucker how to drive. He told him conditions are R-2 which means you chain for safety. Stay out of California if you don’t like the regulations

[@alfredmorency8296]

@@rayray4192 Anybody with any sense would stay out of California altogether.

[@tomgray6123]

Never Thought I’d See The Day… Barefoot Trucks in the left lane wizzin by Moutain Man Mike in the right lane puttsin down a hill with chains on ! Oh The Irony .

[@justachipn3039]

🤣🤣👍👍

[@user-cx8sp8xw2d]

"No Officer, its not luck. Its called SKILL!"

[@christineayres7199]

I admire the other trucker he probably got the heads up from another trucker on the radio that the Troopers were out and probably waited for you guys to get stopped and went when the coast was clear , screw the LAW Live Free or Die lol

[@flyboy6876]

In the 90's had a run from Portland to Reno. I see they still don't plow the road

[@Jeff250lbc]

395 between Victorville and Reno is what I was familiar with loved that ride.

[@suepeterson163]

Happy Belated Father's Day, Mike!

[@boxerfortyfour1153]

I'm surprised the cop didn't say there could be a flying saucer in the middle of the road. I've been driving for over 60 years and haven't seen a body in the road yet.

[@sofakingrad3530]

Same here. Something tells me if there was a body in the road for some strange reason, it wouldn't mind being run over by a truck. Kinda strange that this cop may have seen two of them. That is why people dont trust cops when they pull their balls out and make up stupid things like that.

[@rayray4192]

I’ve held two people’s hands as they died. Seen people decapitated. Seen people on fire. You don’t chain because you can’t drive the road without them- you chain for the unexpected happening.

[@sofakingrad3530]

@@rayray4192 WOW. As a first responder Im telling you that you better get some help with that. Are you really a first responder? You dont act like one. Most of us dont have the problems like you do with that. In fact we never tell people about what we see. You may want to get some professional help before your rage moves from hate commenting on youtube over to other things.

[@AccountInactive]

I've only got 10 and I've seen 3. The firefighter on the motorcycle in SC, another motorcyclist in ND in the middle of the night, and a guy who rolled his truck in winter conditions on 76 near one of the tunnels.

[@KeepItMoving999]

Riding shotgun where have you been ?

[@beavis4play]

i know you can't say it; but it would have been interesting to ask the officer WHY was that guys wife on foot and in the road (with those conditions) to begin with. edit: btw, i don't comment a lot; but i LOVE your videos.

[@geraldjones8032]

Enjoyed the ride. You did an excellent job.😊😊😊😊

[@karenecurran7895]

Hey MMM, did you promise any of us that all of our travels would be to our satisfaction? For me just nice to be along. God bless

[@cathyreed6180]

I don’t know if you remember this or not but you do have a video of you chaining up your tires I don’t remember which video it is but I’m sure you can go back and find it.

[@Nobluffbuff]

Sounded like that driver who passed had chains on....but I can't believe these drivers can go so fast with chains and still keep them on and not risk damaging equipment. 😳 I hardly go 40 mph with chains on.

[@rodirby5952]

If U pull ahead a couple of times and retighten chains and get them really tight I've run 50 MPR WITH NO DAMAGE OR WEAR

[@rayray4192]

Turn cam locks with pipe extender for leverage. Get ‘em tight and carry on.

[@RedogZuk]

California is another planet. 🤠🤘🏼

[@rayray4192]

Stay away- you are not welcome.

[@lakemi4665]

Luv it MMM, I hear ya, CDL since "79" my how things have changed

[@scottied67]

This winter has been the #1 most wet and snowy in California I have ever seen. I put my chains on more times this winter than all the other winters I have been trucking combined. I made a couple of videos of how to put the chains on since I had a chance to put them on so many times.

[@dirtbike9003]

Damn passed 2x in one storm!

[@gycharlie]

Some people work harder to not do a job, than would have been required to do the job in the first place…, then the job still needs done.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Woo hoo! Posted 9 minutes ago and 3rd comment! Driving in the snow; I love it (in a Jeep that is).

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Great question in your title. I wonder a lot about those drivers of the Pre-WWII era, before interstates. They were men, no doubt. Trucks then have zero in common with today's plushwagons.

[@elmerfrejoles98]

What they need to do is look at your driving record for the past 15-20yrs and if it shows you had to collusions/accidents while driving on the snow, then you may pass through without putting chains on your tires. But since they only have one law provision that state chains required when driving on the snow, then all motorist must install it, regardless of experience or luck as they called it. I've been driving for 27 yrs in pretty much any road conditions/weather and can honestly say that, thank goodness without any accidents/collusions or caused any collusions to other motorists. Hoping it will stay that way until I'm too old to drive any vehicles.

[@rayray4192]

As officer said- “ You got lucky.” Lazy and egotistical ass.

[@diamondback2295]

😂. Get em Mike.

[@PRTTYBTTRFLY1]

Snow? Still hmmm! It’s June it looks good the snow cause it’s been hot lately. Besafe

[@ridingshotgun1251]

Left overs from winter.. Feb to be exact

[@waynejensen5449]

I rode my bicycle from Phoenix to Portland on that same route. Ironic.

[@cdawg9149]

You got passed in the snow by other truckers. Never thought Id see the day.

[@Murdoks_Mayhem]

You should hop in my Tow Plow, if I don't get passed on a 12 hr shift plowing 20-30 times (usually in corners between rock cuts) its no big deal. I should grab a dashcam and post some vids myself. I only have 7 winters behind my belt though, almost a rookie in comparison.

[@ScottArmas107]

A couple of those CHP are pretty cool around that area, was black ice on 139 a couple months back and he told me to either chain up or go around 395 to grasshopper rd. Was probably a good thing that night, does suck when we have to chain up because there’s so many morons driving in it that have no clue.

[@freightdawg6762]

Save travels Mike

[@karenpaquin927]

Safe travels

[@jesseweed2144]

and chains arnt gonna stop any better

[@ranbymonkeys2384]

can you stop any faster with chains on?

[@jamesmills9240]

I can hear those drivers now as they pass saying look at that rookie creeping down the road with his chains on. Maybe the CHP officer went on break after he hassled you. That would be my luck.

[@larrybe2900]

They might have automatic chains?

[@jamesmills9240]

@@larrybe2900 I didn't think of that. I've seen those. It's one of those things you say to yourself. Why didn't I think of that.

[@rayray4192]

Officer didn’t hassle anyone sparky.

[@saltzen961]

So why didn't those other trucks have chains on . Related to the Patrol officer ???

[@thomasbradbury6359]

I would’ve told the cop where to go and how to get there. I drive up in northern Canada, where the roads are even worse than that and we’re hauling bigger weights.

[@RickDeckardMemories]

I can't figure out the camera mount (location) 🤔 It's not attached to the seat, is it? I can see the position of the fender mirrors shift in the frame throughout the video, so the mount can't be super stable/permanent... Anyway, I've lost sleep, appetite, and the ability to perform my marital duties over this question. I would greatly appreciate if you tell me.

[@SmokeyGoodness]

CHP officer was a real piece of.... work. (I kept it PG rated). 🤣

[@flyboy6876]

Oh, it has to be really bad before I chain

[@thecolorpurple2678]

Snow??? Wow. When did you make this video???

[@fritzmichaelusa]

February. It’s in the video description

[@derekhorlock1976]

I drove for just over 30 years in Alberta and northern BC Canada. I was never told to chain up and if the roads were bad I would stop but if I wanted to keep driving I would chain up and only once I put on every chain I had,both axles, steering and trailer, safe travels driver

[@danp7463]

I would've asked the highway patrol officer: what if I was driving a fuel tanker truck or carrying division 1 explosives.

[@stanhenning7462]

My guess those trucks have automatic chain slinger

[@richdouglas8969]

No

[@magn630]

Where did those two speeding chain-less trucks go?!? They seemed to just disappear 🧐🤔

[@genegaede3602]

Chp was right your totally wrong.dosent matter how many yrs you have driven.

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Freight wouldn’t get anywhere in Canada, Alaska or even Wyoming on the two lanes with these rules

[@areenakju]

👍👍👍👍🚒🚒🚒

[@MrPepper312]

We need James Bond tires. Just push a button and steel spikes come out of the tires.

[@jjjthomasson8902]

Officers always act like they know how to do your job and theirs. At best, they saw a demonstration or watched a video one time on chaining. And they also know how to drive a truck even though they’ve never been inside one much less drive one. Having the authority isn’t the same as having the knowledge

[@rayray4192]

Bullshit.

[@donalddday7741]

i guess you have never been forced to put on chains over I-80 in the rain cause it might snow then when you get to the 1/2 inch of snow all your chains are broken and slamming on your trailer and tractor from driving on asphalt in the rain

[@TheGor54]

Are you driving an automatic?

[@ichsachjanurmalso]

Safety first!

[@alexmobil7463]

pity you didnt call him a communist!

[@ejr5480]

What hill did he need chains for?

[@richdouglas8969]

Where did you go? Did ya leave ? They just cut our pay

[@wolfgangresch1650]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪

[@christineayres7199]

Body in the road ? seriously ? if theres a body in the road they already dead Jim LOL

[@GoldenChildBH]

Lmao every other video I get recommended is you talking about chains

[@kapekodbob]

Why did you not ask them using the CB ?

[@stellarproductions8888]

Because Mike doesn't use his CB, infact most truckers don't these days. And the last time Mike used his CB, he angered another trucker telling Mike to mind his own business. Mike also loves to bend the laws, that only works in his favor till a cop pulls him over telling him the what for. I like Mike's video's, I watch every one he uploads. But I do wish that he'd stop bending the laws so much. Just put the dam chains on, now nobody is angry, and you can go on your way. But he's got to fight the matter constantly.

[@AppalachianPatriot]

CB radios save lives.

[@rayray4192]

@@stellarproductions8888he’s a strong Wilkes ass

[@rayray4192]

He is a strong willed stubborn ass. C.B. radio is a safety device.

[@angeleyes6861]

Listen to the DOT OFFICER shotgun

[@empresslisa6875]

🚚🚚⛄⛄❄❄

[@khunopie9159]

Aloha kay pass hola

[@dalejensen5828]

I don't get why you almost insist frequently in ignoring the rules of the road. Oh ya, because you're the best driver ever, in your opinion.

[@larrybe2900]

When you have done it you just know limits.

[@billhillify4924]

“Rules”? What other rules did he not follow. You use a plural to bolster a weak case. Simply some need chains more than others.

[@harleyhawk7959]

just stay in the slow lane and follow the rules. LMFAO

[@rayray4192]

@@billhillify4924the basic rule of safety first. He’s an ego driven ass.

[@stewybrooks]

What rules? Elaborate so I can destroy any argument you have

[@f.e.salimi3726]

The premise that you can stop suddenly with chains defies the laws of physics. The officer's scenario is faulty.

[@rayray4192]

Officer didn’t say it’s possible to stop suddenly with chains.

[@StorminNorvin]

Once that cop realized you are Mountain Man Mike, he should have said, "Sir! It's an honor! Here... let me give you my wife's number so you can make a woman out of her. Can I follow you on Facebook and Twitter?"

[@skibee50]

😂

[@rdbchase]

Go look up "communist"; you won't understand the definition, but maybe you'll realize that you've been misusing the word every time you say it.

[@stewybrooks]

Adhering to the principles of communism, what's there to know here?

[@rdbchase]

@@stewybrooks Ever hear of Karl Marx? Communism is his posited end state of human history, not a system of government.

[@clint2814]

Why do cops always have some stupid anecdotal story? "What if you have to stop". Well, I just did, so...

[@AdamGbl95]

Riding shotgun is what we call complacent. Complacency kills. Don't care how much experience you've got bud. Hope we don't see something bad on one of these videos. As fast as you drive in some of these conditions you're the kind of driver I would not want to ride with, idc if you have 50 years.

[@truckinfool3550]

It’s Caltrans, not CDOT, and they’ll put chain control up for wet road. What’s really frustrating for locals is they’ll always close the road completely rather than go to R-3, which is 4wd with chains. I lived and worked on Donner Summit before I started started trucks 30 years ago. I’ve lived in Idaho for the last 10 years now and I’ve seen worse conditions here, and chains are never required, only recommended.

[@Steve_Hunts96]

That’s BS California for ya.

[@rayray4192]

Stay in Idaho.

[@rayray4192]

Chain laws are in place for the lowest experienced driver in mind. If you were local at Baxter or Truckee or the local area you could drive well in R-3 conditions but it’s a low percentage of drivers who live locally. If it’s bad enough to chain 4- wheel drive then conditions exceed people’s experience level and skill level.

[@rayray4192]

@@Steve_Hunts96stay out of California, you aren’t welcome. It’s the most important state in the union.

[@stephano6793]

Drama cop.

[@jesseweed2144]

F?c( commi forna

[@wduck8919]

Man you way behind time on these videos. I used to look forward to watching your up too date videos . But now I guess I will just have to find a new channel to start watching.

[@DBurgg]

A tad pompous.....

[@rayray4192]

You think? Guy is disgusting

[@Ismael-iw4tm]

I am not asking my friend.

[@flyboy6876]

Your speed tells your running cables. I ran real chains period

[@harleyhawk7959]

no, your wrong

[@sofakingrad3530]

The cop is probably the same drivers ed safety clown that says that you have to be a car length behind for every 10MPH of speed. So if you are doing 80 you have to be eight car lengths behind LOL. What these "safety experts" never figure out that if you see the car ahead of you hit its breaks, you hit yours too and you stop together.

[@jimherman3059]

WAH WAH I HATE BEING SAFE FOR OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROADS.

[@jackienelson5804]

What the heck weather has been crazy hay how have you been LEMAY NELSON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON NORTH WEST

[@jackienelson5804]

I remember on a motorcycle done right pass caught in thunderstorm hail then rain then ice it was interesting and I about froze my tail off LEMAY NELSON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON NORTH WEST

[@rayray4192]

So no communication with the north bound driver? Do you a C.B. radio?

[@knowone6214]

Aint nothin like Commiefornika

[@ralwoe]

How did they get by without chains, you ask. Well they spin out. Then the trucks have to be pulled up the hill by tow trucks. Meanwhile, a major highway gets blocked by truckers too lazy to chain up. Happens every year on the Highway Thru Hell, named the Coquihalla Highway, British Columbia, Canada. That's why they want you to chain up, buddy.

[@johnnydough8841]

Actually chains are for clowns that don’t know how to drive and maintain speed.

[@ralwoe]

@@johnnydough8841 That's what they all say before they spin out. BTW, there are other vehicles on the road. So, being a road bully is not good or safe.

[@harleyhawk7959]

it's not Canada or the highway thru hell

[@kenhofer8063]

@@johnnydough8841 stupid comment

[@sofakingrad3530]

You watch way too much reality TV. I am a Colorado driver and have NEVER owned a set of chains or snow tires in my life. My job is 75 miles away over one pass, one of the most dangerous in Colorado. Never spun out or been in a ditch. Chains are hard on the road and hard on the vehicle. If you know what you are doing you dont need chains. My advise to you is the next time it rains, chain up buddy.

[@rayray4192]

You have an incorrect understanding of freedom.