argus literally feels weaker when the 40% penetration is gone, or is it just me?
@EnigmaX082 ай бұрын
the same for me. feels weaker....
@QueenXMlbb2 ай бұрын
I'm not argus usr I always Watch his videos but I also think he is weaker then before 😶
@MHAOvercharged2 ай бұрын
It is. Some heroes can reach above 100 defence. And without pen it becomes harder to deal damage
@sensenillust2 ай бұрын
it definitely feels weaker😕
@zetton45742 ай бұрын
They did that so that Argus wouldn't get much advantage if he used fleeting time, he had to use penetration items to maximize his damage in the late game.
@hakuto67772 ай бұрын
Argus is always be my main hero same with Freya .. thank to you, because you video I now know how to counter and do a push, keep a good work my friend 👍🏻🔥😎
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this wonderful comment 🙏 I hope you enjoy argus like I do
@yogaefd15072 ай бұрын
yuppp thank u for the content @@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
You're welcome bro
@YoshiNetwork7772 ай бұрын
Keep it up bro! Argus main here ❤
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏 Argus is the best ‼️
@YoshiNetwork7772 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays Hell yeah
@QwertyUiop-w6m2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, what they should have done to argus passive is slightly lowering the (150) bonus damage while increasing the armor penetration capability to atleast 50% or perhaps slightly more. This way, argus could inflict more damage to tanky high sustainability heroes like gatot or yu zhong or any tank in general, and slightly reducing his damage to squishy heroes like marksman or mage. Because if they just buffed the amount of bonus damage his passive could inflict, it would increase his damage against tanky enemy and squishy heroes. This would make the squishy heroes like marksman stand no chance when encountering argus. But if its the penetration capability that is being buffed it will, his damage to tanky heroes would increase while his damage to marksman and mage is just the same or only very slightly increased. Correct me if iam wrong
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
People treating this adjustment as final changes when it's just in testing phase so it's subject to change
@princelupingamer93952 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays People didn't noticed that nothing on his previous revamp sticked. His Three slash got replaced His 2nd skill bleed literally gone now His ult is 4 secs now (Low cd tho) The only thing that resembles his previous revamp is his 1st skill and even that got major changes.
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
@@princelupingamer9395 I personally don't think this current revamp will be shipped lol. I think they will change something major again
@BobFunniman2 ай бұрын
"Effect Removed:40% Penetration" Malefic Roar:Will you finally build me Zayed? Zayed:No 🗿
@ubenito2 ай бұрын
the new argus need crit items no penetration or attack speed
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Never building a gun when argus has a sword 🗣️‼️
@justaviewer78032 ай бұрын
@@ubenito still need attackspeed
@JoeyGames1232 ай бұрын
The physical penetration needs to come back, even if its nerfed, argus struggles so much on tanky heroes
@Jesse-lalpeklianАй бұрын
I love his level when he use his ult,like yin and helcurt
@garrytalaroc2 ай бұрын
Bring back armor penetration by 40%(negotiable) and we’ll call it even.
@QueenXMlbb2 ай бұрын
Good job for sharing 🎉 with Amazing insane gameplay wow nonstop fight 😮🎉🎉👏👏
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Youre welcome 😎
@V_For_Vendettaedits2 ай бұрын
The 40% penetration is just too heavy of a nerf, u can see how he struggled to kill a ZILONG on lvl 10 both of them
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Bruh zilong is not a tank
@V_For_Vendettaedits2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays and yet he struggles against someone who isnt tanky as you show in the video
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
@@V_For_Vendettaedits I don't think he struggled against zilong, moreover argus revamp does more damage with ult than the global damage does without ult so you can't really say he's weaker then it means he's even more in the global version. Anyways I'll be making more gameplay videos for advance server argus so one video doesn't really show the exact difference so look forward to that !
@V_For_Vendettaedits2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays in the video when you were fighting Zilong on LvL 10 it took a while to kill him, for Argus he should have been more easier to kill Zilong, but the damage zilong was taking was too little in my opinion for a lvl 10 Argus
@V_For_Vendettaedits2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays i still wil wait to see more of him but im not convinced... This revamp seemed unnecesary to me, if Moonton only gave global Argus one more second to ult and movement speed on activation he would have been better, he is balanced that way and all his skills work perfectly with the other
@charlspatrickaba58222 ай бұрын
If they ain't bringing back the 40% ignore deff at least give him attack speed buff during ult😓
@liofficial41924 күн бұрын
Hello Zayed I have a question dose the argus revamp or rework stay on advanced server or come to globel or official server
@ZayedHeroPlays23 күн бұрын
It's for testing on advance server so when they think it's finally ready they might release it on global
@liofficial41923 күн бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays Okay ty because I got happy when season 34 came out because I thought argus rework came out with it lol
@ZayedHeroPlays23 күн бұрын
@@liofficial419 alright 😁
@zackzoom87792 ай бұрын
Many people back then: Can Argus just has ult automatically active if he reaches 0 hp? Moonton: Gotcha, more revamps
@delunabryanaldring.82382 ай бұрын
Is it just me? His 2nd skill still counts as basic attack right? But why does it not charge malice energy when it hits (on non heroes)?
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Because that effect was removed as a nerf
@MHAOvercharged2 ай бұрын
The only thing thay makes this adjustment nad is entirely removing 2 of his feature. Instead of removing them the6 should just nerf it. Maybe reducing the defence shred by 20% or make his 2nd skill gain half rage bar when using on non hero. I hope they readjust it back. The ultimate nerf isn't that bad because it slightly weakened the speed of regen but the value remains the same.
@omegasteve84852 ай бұрын
They should nerf the penetration, not completely remove it
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Still a menace against squishy
@fm_05232 ай бұрын
Spamming penetration would be just unfair, given how easily he can trigger his passive. If even Dyrroth and all the marksmen have to buy penetration, Argus should as well.
@Boss_Bearc2 ай бұрын
2019 argus main here , I think argus is ruined... they removed his passive Regen on tower meaning he can't split push anymore and also most heroes don't do damage to argus on his ult and might not be able to unlock the phase 2 of argus ult making the phase 2 of his ult feels useless , it's also rare to unlock phase 2 of his ult players can just stop hitting argus and run away and come back for 5 seconds
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Cant say much now, if this came to live servers then I'll find a way to Bang the Enemies
@Marksman45y2 ай бұрын
Even after biggest nerf, Argus still viable with his spammable passive but with natural rage regen removal, double regen rage on hit mark removal, penetration removal and critical rage bonus nerf make him more reliable on ult instead being spam on his normal basic attack
@X_TheJoker_X2 ай бұрын
yes but now you will play only from the ult, and each ult can last 60 seconds after the battle... this is a big nerf, before they said that he is nothing without the ult, now everyone will say that without the ult he is the bottom!
@user-sf4nx8qm2z2 ай бұрын
@@Marksman45y that why his ult cd is shorter now. That is if your health didnt reach 0 during the pre immortal state of his ult. His ult CD will be halved.
@DONTREADMYCOMMENT1332 ай бұрын
This video just recommended me out i also have friend he also top global in Vietnam argus
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Nicee that's awesome
@carlosleyva21102 ай бұрын
Ya ni se que pensar del revamp de argus solo tengo mucho miedo de que le quiten de mas de lo que le agregan
@swiftgamingultra86432 ай бұрын
TBH i think the changes now is actually more beneficial considering he can last longer in fights and in terms of penetration just buy malefic roar like any other attack speed heroes and this changes help him in the early game to be able to stand up and fight
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Yep
@fm_05232 ай бұрын
Finally, someone who understands! That's what I've been saying since the nerfs came.
@Ardiluc2 ай бұрын
But there is the question. Why do we have to?? Original server Argus doesnt have to build penetration so you get an extra item slot while this Argus always has to buy malefic. A lot of heroes have defense reduction. (Dyroth, silvanna, even zilong!) They can just reduce the defence ignoring to 30 or 25% not just completely remove it! This adjustment is stupid.
@arigatameiwaku2 ай бұрын
@@Ardiluc they want argus players to focus right targets,not stand stll in a 8 seconds ultimate trying to kill yu zhong,ruby or terizla.
@Kyriel-Keslana2 ай бұрын
Argus just became more of an assassin but with suck mobility
@Shuster8072 ай бұрын
True 😭
@haridascosta11942 ай бұрын
Bro but i think that Great Dragon Spear, Fleeting Time and Malefic Roar gonna do the differences.
@Kyriel-Keslana2 ай бұрын
@@haridascosta1194 tried it still can't fight against tanky and high mobility heroes
@haridascosta11942 ай бұрын
@@Kyriel-Keslana Bro,argus Originally it was a hero to kill ADC and mages, what changed
@Kyriel-Keslana2 ай бұрын
@@haridascosta1194 still his movement speed is not enough to reach ranged heroes without his first skill
@JulioT.BelloJr.Ай бұрын
i love when my title setting on argus is on Philippines 3
@ZayedHeroPlaysАй бұрын
Same
@lubyakbar2 ай бұрын
So what do you think? Does this mean he is too reliant on ult? While they butchered his energy gain and utilities from second skill. Also, I never see someone trigger the 8 second duration of his ult
@Marksman45y2 ай бұрын
If you want trigger 8 seconds immortal, you must ult on early engagement or try to dive in crowd/turret with full health, with this you have chance to trigger more than 4 seconds immortal
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
More ult reliable for sure but his damage is very "burst" so he will literally nuke anyone that is not a tank.💀
@Lucid_Droid2 ай бұрын
Wow they made argus from A tier to B+ Tier 🗿
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
He was always low tier to people before with low pick rate
@andryhunter86042 ай бұрын
Instead of changing the skill...it's better to reverse the effect of dragging the sword on the ground like before The current Argus is perfect
@fm_05232 ай бұрын
I don't get why people say he's worse than original server. His 2nd skill and ult are far better. The only downside is the nerf to his passive, which will force him to buy malefic roar against tanks...just like, you know, literally everyone else!
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Yeah I absolutely love his new skill 2
@fm_05232 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays Not gonna lie, if these changes come to Original Server, it will take some time to adapt to his new ult and playstyle. But if it means he will be able to be useful in teamfights, I'm all for it.
@leibniz44552 ай бұрын
Unless if you'll mix up demon hunter sword with his attack speed, the damage dealt will be by percent
@haluyolo75682 ай бұрын
Nah, he's really easy to adapt tbh, I played advance server too and on original server I have more than 2000 matches on Argus, the new one is not hard to adapted to~ @fm_0523
@princelupingamer93952 ай бұрын
Best changes he received tbh. Previous half-assed revamp didn't changed shit.
@ardo48812 ай бұрын
i think the nerf kinda to much.. they can just lower the passive pen to 20% and since the skill 2 passive just can be works if you hit a hero, you have to reduce the cooldown, if you don't hit a hero, so that the clear wave isn't too bad, or if not, reduce the cooldown of the 2nd skills
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
I don't like the new Argus. I just love the current one too much
@corefanbuilder43332 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays yep the regen warmonger was good and base damage was good and they remove the regen so that's why they give us free epic skins to let us ignore the nerfs of our main hero argus.
@RUSIXXX72 ай бұрын
That ult animation looks like super saian bruh
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Yepp
@KitCat.i32 ай бұрын
How do I get to the advance server. I need to riot, I can't stay quiet. I don't want this buff to be final. THE REMOVED PEN IS SIN AND I SHALL NOT ACCEPT IT!
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
I got it from Taptap X Moonton event
@Ardiluc2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlaysDid you use any other apps like vpn? Because the download button doesn't show up on mine. Is it because Im not from sea region? Or does it have a specific date for you to download? Sorry to bother you with these questions but I've been trying for 2 weeks to get into advanced server but nothing worked.
@justaviewer78032 ай бұрын
Without 40% def ignore, argus malice boost is meaningless.
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
It's not
@justaviewer78032 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays it is, now I feel how tanky the enemy become just by watching your vid :/
@DrewMiguel2 ай бұрын
Yea i might be a bit more aggressive now Well not like ill get to the advance server or somt
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Yup I really felt like I should fight whenever my ult was up
@pitvikernes2 ай бұрын
I still looking the best build Argus with vengeance spell, but still thinking about which item that can replace inspire spell.
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Can't know much since the update is not live yet
@elcidgaming2 ай бұрын
before i used execute on him when his curse still dealt damage idk if its still worth it
@elcidgaming2 ай бұрын
before i used execute on him when his curse still dealt damage idk if its still worth it
@VirualRilvers2 ай бұрын
At least let Argus have a penetration on his passive of 15% 🤡
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
They want argus to become a green zilong
@CatSatoru6712 ай бұрын
I hate mlbb a bit cuz of the penetration removal But still not quitting as a argus main!
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
I'll show you guys he's still strong and even better
@abodwatheq16192 ай бұрын
When will this be released?
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
No info about that yet
@DownFallT_T2 ай бұрын
Lets rate mlbb to 1 star and protest to ratings so maybe we can stop moonton for updating this nerf
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
They ain't budging sadly
@elcidgaming2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlaysAs I was saying from the beginning this revamp was a bad idea. even if the strong version went live they will he forced to nerf him to the ground eventually
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
@@elcidgaming I Just don't like using his ult as a damage booster, feels like zilong
@elcidgaming2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays yeah man as he is now he is really very good already with only 3 items even without ult
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
@@elcidgaming yeah his 3 items powerspike is amazing and it just gets better as the match goes on
@EdrianTumacder2 ай бұрын
Nah argus weaker now in tanky Heroes without his penetration he would be nothing
@arigatameiwaku2 ай бұрын
Malefic roar exists and you always build it no matter the build. Crit build still uses malefic roar,same as trinity. Low rank argus ignoring malefic roar,tale as old as time
@Yashura3032 ай бұрын
They really scared too buff argus they know how op a only hero with death immunity or immortality 😂
@ThadJewkes2 ай бұрын
How to join advance server? I wanna try playing this new Argus
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Search Taptap advance server event and you might find something
@nournour-ow4qr2 ай бұрын
Bruh his damage against tanky heros is nothing because there is no penaration
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
I barely fought tanks in this video
@fm_05232 ай бұрын
Buy malefic roar then. If all the other attack speed heroes do that, why shouldn't he?
@EllieGoodie2 ай бұрын
Alright, Argus is still painful due to his passive damage Though i still thinl he can still dish out big damages there qithout the penetration
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
He's so strong but people don't wanna accept that
@EllieGoodie2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays yep Though his old version was incredibly painful because he doesn't rely on passive nor Ult Just purely damage Now I think, despite the nerf I could see he was becoming nearer to his old version even if the penetration got removed He was slightly just near, very near, only difference, ult and passive reliant But if they decided to buff his stats It would become very close
@dogoboy692 ай бұрын
The old Argus is better because I use Sprint
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
That's actually a good idea, I'll try to use sprint instead of inspire on adv server next time
@reellplayz8272 ай бұрын
No matter what happens I never live argus 🔥 By: ZayedHero
@gregoriusriscadoharefa2 ай бұрын
Leave*,not live
@QueenXMlbb2 ай бұрын
"Never abandon argus"
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Yes I'm never leaving him, idc if he's the worst hero In terms of damage
@jayyednasrpendatun69022 ай бұрын
Argus struggled to kill low level carmilla, prove that he didnt need dhis 40% crit removdd as some fighters would get 100+ defense😢
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Even in live servers he focuses on squishy more so I don't see much change in playstyle
@jayyednasrpendatun69022 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays he should be little bit of karrie, karrie is a mm tank killer so maybe 40% is enough for argus or 30,25
@zimamahmed34662 ай бұрын
The new Argus looks so weak compared to before What a joke
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Not true
@J.luis12 ай бұрын
Toooooo much fucking C.C. for Argus to handle Like i said, thank you so much Moonton for making me lose motivation to play this unbalanced game
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Try him out when his final changes are set and make you're own judgement, I feel like you'll like him
@SargentPula2 ай бұрын
they shouldve made the penetration 20% rather than removing it his passive barely does dmg to tanky enemies
@SargentPula2 ай бұрын
although his passive still does good dmg removing the penetration is just a big nerf
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
I'll be making more videos of him in adv server so look forward to that, he's not as weak as you think
@SargentPula2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays yep im lookin forward for another video bout argus, new fan also
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
@@SargentPula thanks bro 🙌
@fm_05232 ай бұрын
@@SargentPula Yeah, but considering how much easier it is to get his passive bar full, he would be able to spam penetration, which is ridiculous. Not even Dyrroth can use his defense reduction so frequently.
@elcidgaming2 ай бұрын
Nobody was asking for this revamp wtf
@Tobot272 ай бұрын
I cannot tell if this is a nerf or a buff so far, it seems like it depends on the player 🗿
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
It made him balanced imo
@ardo48812 ай бұрын
i think the nerf kinda to much.. they can just lower the passive pen to 20% and since the skill 2 passive just can be works, if you hit a hero, you have to reduce the cooldown, if you don't hit a hero, so that the clear wave isn't too bad, or if not, reduce the cooldown of the two skills.
@christopherdomingo70492 ай бұрын
The new hero is so ass and so cheesy.
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
True, bro doesn't let me move
@anotherguy83452 ай бұрын
They killed my hero
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
Not yet
@YusALNimi2 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlaysnah, possibly against sustained heroes like Yuzhong, Terizla and paquito. The way he can solo them is problematic
@princelupingamer93952 ай бұрын
Despite the nerfs, this revamped version is still better than og server version AND DEFINITELY BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS REVAMP. People don't get that moonton tends to overbuff then overnerf heroes that is under experimental changes. They stress tests heroes. Some nerfs probably gonna get reverted like the 2nd skill only activating on heroes but the rest of the nerfs we're kinda justified his pen only need to be decrease, the regen and cd nerf is justified definitely. I can definitely see this Argus going offmeta. Powerful but not Op, Viable but not a must pick.
@htetnaing95972 ай бұрын
Honestly i don't think so. especially without the instant crowd control dispelling and 40% armor ignoring parts
@princelupingamer93952 ай бұрын
@@htetnaing9597he can still dispel cc.
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
+ slow Immunity during ult
@user-sf4nx8qm2z2 ай бұрын
@@htetnaing9597thats why you need crit items now. Plus using his skill 2 helps alot during early game
@FarAway-xb4lp2 ай бұрын
It already happend in og server lmao.@@user-sf4nx8qm2z