Aries Spears & DJ Vlad Argue if Biggie Would've Blown Up Without Diddy (Part 20)

[@terrencelowe8960]

On behalf of everyone…. Vlad shut up!

[@augustineramos3989]

Yet you be here tomorrow watching again

[@ishrixxbugatti4000]

Dont like vlad. but biggie stole another rappers style and name

[@WilliamCook-rq4vc]

No bs smh

[@augustineramos3989]

@tj5579 you'll still be watching tho even tho you hating on another nigga think about it

[@KP43-08]

@@augustineramos3989 but people are here to see Vlad interview people not to listen Vlad talk for the entire interview

[@yakimisrael5758]

I finally figured it out. Vlad is the Skip Bayless of hip hop media. 😂

[@NewJackCity1988]

Your giving Vlad to much credit 😂

[@yakimisrael5758]

@@NewJackCity1988 I mean, only as far as sinking with the ship of most of his wild takes. 😂

[@rolio9775]

​@@NewJackCity1988actually I think he's right Vlad loves to stir the pot just like Skip does.... He says BS just to get clicks He's even admitted to it.

[@icewinddale2675]

Without Diddy biggie wodvr remained a grimy dirty porch nikka.

[@augustineramos3989]

And here you are watching

[@northphillykev2040]

Vlad talks too much. We dont care about your opinion.

[@otbhs3646]

Puff turned down DMX,......and somebody else came in and signed him and the rest is history. I say that to say this, even if puff didn't sign big,somebody else would've.

[@adfpresentation]

Vlad needs to be quiet 🤫

[@jmorgan5822]

I don’t know why he believes his opinion is so much needed in these situations

[@gloriempaka9474]

Make him

[@ryana-g3075]

A STAR GONE SHINE NO MATTER WHAT! BIG WAS TALENTED WITH OR WITHOUT DIDDY!

[@tbjb009]

​@jmorgan5822 maybe because he has been a part of hip hop culture for over 2 decades? 🤔

[@Amon-LOK]

@@tbjb009 People don't wanna hear that 😂They just see Vlad as another "white boy" that don't know anything about hip-hop. Doesn't matter how well-versed he is.

[@rahmelisrough]

Give Diddy his credit. The idea of a fat dude rapping smooth for the ladies (the new Heavy D. A concept he got at Uptown Records) was not a direction Biggie was heading. We wouldn't have had Big Poppa/Frank White.

[@brynellsidney3983]

Exactly

[@seedsowersofisrael.4660]

Agree

[@jaredboyd513]

Considering Puff’s back was against the wall, as it seemed like he had flamed out at Uptown, his mentality to win, at that point in his career, was probably pretty high. To Vlad’s point, who knows what BIG could’ve been without Puff and vice versa? Puff’s experience and relationships drastically impacted Big’s trajectory.

[@ghostt488]

Biggie took that chapter from PAC. Not heavy D

[@gip1279]

True. He married faith 3 weeks after meeting her. She was probably his first beautiful woman he ever had.

[@ralph30526]

2pac 1st album was underrated

[@brynellsidney3983]

And Tupac had a great coach: Shock G!!!

[@GreerMcCormick-w4n]

Pac first album had Panther Power so whitey wouldn't understand 😮

[@ZahirBivings-mt6rh]

Very underrated

[@tomstorm7926]

@@GreerMcCormick-w4nhe said the album didn’t do well he didn’t say he didn’t like it.

[@kingRoddHumble2398]

That album was good too me

[@becomewhatyoumean6716]

The “2Pacalypse Now” disrespect is outta pocket.

[@Infam0usKiller]

I couldn’t believe it either. If you’re a non black and you say such a thing it’s because you need to be black to completely understand the album

[@MurdaOnYou]

“A smokin'-ass n**** robbed me blind I got a TEC-9, now his smokin'-ass is mine”

[@jaredboyd513]

It isn’t the sort of record, at that time, that you would think could forecast a hit making rap career. It certainly doesn’t speak to what he would become as an artist. There’s a fair argument that a label would have every right to divest from a Digital Underground side project, which is what he was at that time. Gratefully, labels took some pride in developing talent in those days. Somebody saw something in 2Pac that warranted a budget for a second album. And luckily so. We benefited from the music that was to come from him.

[@roncur]

@@jaredboyd513u speak all facts

[@Charlie-yu9ce]

True. Pac would've got him on.

[@okenneth187um]

Vlad lost the argument as soon as he opened his fuckin mouth

[@joojoobaw]

You can tell he was just scrambling to put together his argument on the spot grasping at straws to be “right” 😂 even tho they both damn near were saying the same thing by the end

[@pfunk1992]

😂

[@thablackkat9905]

False. I usually do not agree with him but he's right about this. Who would see the vision in Biggie, a rotund lyricist who isn't marketable and wasn't making radio records, and put money into making him a star? No one. Puff took the artists that no one would have a vision for and made them stars.

[@thablackkat9905]

Faith Evans was a session singer and writer. She wasn't supposed to be a lead star singer. Puff turned her into MJB 2.0. Total would've have had the same success had they went to another label. The music industry is a business at the end of the day. They need to sell more than just hot lyrics. Looks, presence, stage skills, and possible acting ranges are key. The most important aspect is listening and following instructions to whoever is paying you to do so.

[@AnthonyAvila-nb9tq]

Well Said

[@krisj827]

Aries is right, Biggie was coachable. Diddy was great at presenting Biggie to the public but Biggie's talent would've took him anywhere if he had lived and left Bad Boy.

[@thablackkat9905]

Lemme ask you sum'n. Do you listen to Thirstin Howll III? That's what Biggie would've become had he not went with Puff's vision.

[@eddiejackson3165]

@@thablackkat9905 cap big got his lady’s play frm pac pac told biggie start rapping frm the biggie

[@billclay9489]

just because he was coachable doesnt mean he woulda got a good coach.

[@billclay9489]

@@thablackkat9905 yep

[@olaakande5581]

Puff’s real talent is artist development picks ur beats, singles, tells u how to say certain verses or tells u to rewrite verses, even tells u how to dress to look marketable That’s his ultimate talent & labels stopped doin that for artists 25 years ago Joe Budden talks about it Labels don’t wanna pay for artist development but wonder why 95% of the artists they sign every year fail

[@rebel4792]

Vlad definitely was at diddy’s house at 1am in the morning 😅.🧢 like a mf.

[@katehudson6490]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@wirelessone32704]

😆

[@Rondondemarco]

With a roll of condoms

[@selwynkeshwa5486]

Lol kak mal

[@jonp9300]

The song “Notorious thugs” shuts down Vlad whole argument. Because that song alone shows that biggie could adapt under any circumstances

[@wirelessone32704]

Facts! 💯 That song is 🔥

[@losnamerales3403]

Biggie also didn't like doing that song due to it being a faster flow "hip hop" style to his usual slower rap style 💯 fire track though 🔥 👌🏾

[@michaelabrakson2919]

Puff made him a star. His lyrics alone didn't do it!

[@henrysedillo5834]

💯💯

[@mt3719]

Biggie would still be alive 😢

[@AbstractDivinity1]

@mt3719 That's if he didn't go to LA.

[@Wh4L205]

@@AbstractDivinity1that went over your head a whole lot.

[@AbstractDivinity1]

@@Wh4L205 Do you give head?

[@AbstractDivinity1]

@@Wh4L205 I bet your head game is nice!

[@RodriqueMcbean]

You don't know that biggie was heading back to the streets

[@dDw47vip]

Biggies story and Diddys stories were intertwined. Neither would have made it without each other.

[@phenomgamingdz7030]

i disagree puffy was already successful ,

[@dDw47vip]

@@phenomgamingdz7030 talking about afterwards. Diddy/ Bad Boy wouldn’t be successful without Biggie. Biggie would have been wasted with another producer.

[@joojoobaw]

@@dDw47vip I hear what you mean, they both probably would’ve found success regardless but not THAT crazy level of success. But on the other side of that coin, BIG probably would’ve lived a lot longer…

[@makkmulla3647]

Wrong they both was gonna make it thru the test of time you see that

[@makkmulla3647]

Eve wasn’t with DRE FIRST WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT

[@mydomusic2410]

Diddy gave him that “flamboyant” sound on Rnb records which heightened his already rugged style mix the hard with the soft. So vlad has a point. We don’t know if another producer at that time could have propelled him to superstar status.

[@NoLineNoWait123AbC]

He does

[@Fuq2]

That second album he sounded like a grizzly bear wearing a purple satin suit 😂

[@rickyjames4228]

I dont think so no1 else woulda hv been able too and have that vision 90's diddy was good at that ill give his suspect ass that. lol

[@thablackkat9905]

Exactly

[@rocoustilerocoustile4320]

Why couldn't he've done the same with Craig Mack? His first artist?

[@ChiraqBabyRedd]

Aries sounded like jadakiss when just rapped that bar 😂😂

[@91Definite]

😂😂😂

[@MotivateTheYouth-l2w]

😂

[@lobo_solo214]

I think he was passing off his Tony soprano impression as a Jadakiss impression 😅

[@ljjuiceman4922]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RealKing_Henry]

Vlad said 2Pac first album wasn't good?!? 🤔🤔 2Pac first album was 🔥🔥🔥 just like the rest of his catalog 🔥🔥🔥

[@Maxwasbornindecember]

I caught that too. He smoking crack. “Brenda’s got a baby, trapped, souljas story, when my homies call, panther power,etc…” Vlad really sounds like an idiot these days.

[@jaykaynum5569]

🎤🎤🎤.5

[@corysmith4361]

​@@Maxwasbornindecember✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

[@Charlie-yu9ce]

​@@Maxwasbornindecembertrue. I never heard anything like Brenda got a baby at that time or any other time

[@RobDorseyTheNurd]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@tensaikingX]

IMO biggie was a better lyricist than Jay Z

[@moniquemitchell5092]

Pure facts. 😊

[@kapothagoodfella2785]

Right!! And that no writing that everyone praises Jay-Z for. He learned it from BIG!

[@moniquemitchell5092]

@@kapothagoodfella2785 correct.

[@Poindette]

Biggie lyrically was a phenom. He was destined for top 5 of all time.

[@shynebayarea510]

For the east coast

[@carsonhess1070]

💯 He was a once in a lifetime level of talent. Someone would’ve discovered and pushed him. Vlad bumped his damn head 😂

[@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862]

Biggie wasn't no studi0gangster lik tutupac either 😂

[@NutsakZack]

Top 3

[@stylescasino1006]

Yea but he not in top 5 he only dropped 2 albums. 50 cent first two albums better than big first two albums

[@verdarodraughn5597]

Aries' argument should've been, "What about all the other artists Diddy had, that wasn't on Big's level, that didn't blow?" If Diddy was that dude like that, he would've it work for them.

[@MrJAV90]

You can say the same thing about EMINEM & Dr Dre....folks in Dr Dre circle didn't want dre to sign him

[@mikeillgaming4224]

Exactly 💯

[@sharonjo7630]

And could say the same about 50 cent. Dr. Dre nor jimmy iovine wanted to deal with 50 but Eminem believed in 50.

[@mikeillgaming4224]

@@sharonjo7630 nah 50 was 50 before Eminem.. we didn't change his style after getting signed.

[@sharonjo7630]

@@mikeillgaming4224 Eminem changed his style after getting signed?

[@rickyjames4228]

I WAS WAITING 4 SOMEONE TO BRING UP THEM FOLKS ELVIS....... MAN WE TALKING ABOUT BIG NOW FORGET EM

[@matthewvaneyk4713]

Aries phrased it perfectly, Biggie was a force of nature. It’s more plausible Puff wouldn’t have been as successful without Biggie.

[@joojoobaw]

They both probably still would’ve been successful, maybe just in different possibly lesser ways & Biggie could’ve lived longer. That’s why this what-if sht is pointless, it’s all “could’ve beens” and “maybes” and “probablys”… we don’t know 😂

[@prestigeworldwide5682]

I think Big Pun was also a force of nature . Whether Joe found him or not I think Pun and his group would’ve made it though I think it would’ve probably too more time or maybe not because they was making noise.

[@Kimmie_by_grace]

Factory!!! 💯

[@jaredboyd513]

@@joojoobawthat’s real. It’s tough to argue in favor of Puff’s influence over Big, if you consider that he potentially could’ve lived longer were he not moving around with Puff - whatever the actual circumstances of his passing may be. If you remove Puff and Bad Boy from the picture, Big, for all intents and purposes, could have not been a huge recording and video star, but could be a well-respected mic titan with a long career and a classic album or two. I’m talking like a Kool G Rap or an AZ. Who knows?

[@andrewsykes7516]

Dude always trying to debate black culture.

[@mikeillgaming4224]

It's music

[@randallklassen1061]

This is so dumb. Aries isn't the authority on hip hop. People can discuss things you weirdo

[@joojoobaw]

@@mikeillgaming4224 lol right and about one of the most well known recording artists. Damn near everybody debates “what if’s” like this but I guess we gatekeeping that too now

[@rickyjames4228]

YEAH IM WAITING FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT HIS PURPLE GANG FRINDS IN THE MUSIC BIZ NOTICE WE DONT GET NON OF DAT

[@Mobbin4theArt]

His job is commentating Blk Culture, and We're Tuned In, so why wouldn't he debate the sh!t? Lol.. Until we un-subscribe from this Vulture I'm kinda Tired of calling him a Vulture..

[@Ivanblock757]

Vlad example of Dr. DRE having Eve first was a great example

[@mrmoney6767]

He proved aries point without knowing it. Just like aries said if you have the ability and are destined to do something another person will pick you up and make it work in her situation swizz beats

[@Ivanblock757]

@mrmoney6767 thats not true, plenty of artists don't get picked up

[@SaxlRose]

5:41 “wait let me ask my question” sums up this whole segment 😂😂

[@LilBigTv2k]

Think about it Biggie wasn’t even that marketable

[@seedsowersofisrael.4660]

Actually, Craig Mack was more marketable than BIG but later on, BIG became more marketable

[@KINGTUXonline]

if they made their way to this corner of the earth, the marketing worked

[@dayzeereyes128]

Big Pun came before big and did his thing

[@AngeBiampandou]

​@@dayzeereyes128Ummm yeah nah

[@oophorror2251]

@@dayzeereyes128Big Pun didn’t get big until the 00’s and it was with singles that sounded like Biggie type songs. Big Pun even started dressing fly like Big.

[@sha.d]

Big would have made it without Puff. It wouldn't have been in the same manner, but Big was one of them! He was gonna make it regardless.

[@bigolbabyhuey]

Without Diddy's directions, Biggie would've been another M.O.P. - an underground artists who had a lil buzz and some respect amongst his peers... he would've never made it to superstar level

[@Getvonjinyolife]

He wouldn’t have been a supastar. Puff put him in position to be a supastar‼️‼️‼️

[@NoLineNoWait123AbC]

He wouldn’t have been who he is though.

[@dougcody-nk2fp]

I think he would have made any other producer a star as well as blow up himself...he was that Great. Puff did have to stay on him though. Big was hard headed.

[@dougcody-nk2fp]

​@@bigolbabyhueyBig is NOT MOP...c'mon ...his quality is the Best..I'm 53 I've NEVER heard a wack line from Big let alone a song. I can't say that about ANY other artist. Jay Nas Jada Em 50 Snoop Kendrick all have said some corny sht NEVER BIG.

[@tonymontez2358]

1:21 this is the problem with talking to vlad over talking the conversation doesn’t mean you’re right. You can’t debate or have real conversations with people who always think they know it all and think they’re always right 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jasonbt1]

Its crazy you said that RIGHT after I was thinking it.. I mean as soon as the thought left my mind your comment popped up. 💪🏾🤣💯✊🏽 vlads a douche bag 🎯

[@Ryanoww]

​@@jasonbt1 it's called courtesy. Choice. You dumbass.

[@HeartbreakEdits]

uneven skin???😂 vlad you violating✊🏿

[@Miss.TJ516]

That was mean.

[@Denzel_Washington]

Fr a lot of people could say the same about vlad being a dj, how a ginger Jewish guy with glasses a big hip hop dj

[@darrellpasion8925]

What does that even mean ? Vlads a donkey.

[@sharonjo7630]

​@@Denzel_Washington...chill. damn...

[@furiousstyles9662]

😂😂😂

[@CeddyMackBaybee93]

If "someone" has the skill set, the "right person" can put it all together and take it all the way. Biggie was that "someone" and Puff was the "right person" at that time.

[@Mar-wg7io]

Well said.

[@lajaness4026]

People don't understand you need the right producer to bring certain artist to the mainstream.. another producer probably would've had him sounding different and it could've failed

[@jaredboyd513]

I can imagine most of the popular hip hop producers at the time would’ve doubled down on the street element in his music. I can’t imagine anyone other than Puff would’ve steered him toward the more melodic style and image that would become the Bad Boy standard by Big’s second album, because it didn’t exist until they did it. And Puff and the Hitmen caught a good bit of flack from rap purists for their approach. But I say that while also acknowledging that a big shift happened with “One More Chance (Remix).” Not the album version. I think that’s when they locked in. After Big’s first record.

[@calipurnell8353]

If there's no Diddy...there's no Biggie.....facts

[@cedricfontenette9187]

If there’s no biggie……diddy just has Craig Mack 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MosheXX]

@@cedricfontenette9187and Mary J and Total and Faith Evan’s and more

[@cedricfontenette9187]

@@MosheXX poor example homie…..Mary j became a superstar after puff, faith and total both spring boarded off biggie features…..faith was basically known as “biggies wife”

[@MosheXX]

@@cedricfontenette9187 wrong! Everything you said was incorrect

[@peteyjames1829]

3:41 Vlad thinks Tupac first album was makaveli

[@jr0seuch718]

makaveli* 😂

[@peteyjames1829]

@@jr0seuch718 yes, the one that featured ja rule on one of the hooks

[@adfpresentation]

Vlad I’m quoting Kendrick Lamar “ you’re not like us “

[@TheDCism93]

As much as I hate to say it, Vlad is accurate. Diddy was absolutely responsible for blowing up Biggie and you have to give him credit for that. The amount of skill and talent that Biggie had would have taken him far, but not superstar status. Diddy's marketing with Biggie was utterly genius as he presented Biggie to a wider audience to make him more palatable. That's not an easy thing to do.

[@ivan363]

If anything puffy would not be who he was without biggie

[@Mar-wg7io]

Please put that in capital letters

[@Kimmie_by_grace]

Even Aries got tired of that dumb argument. He just got quiet. 😂😂

[@m43854]

Hate to say it but...blowing up is about waaayy more than just talent.

[@jaredboyd513]

There’s so much more than rapping in a microphone that was required to get Big from a street rap level to a crossover rap success. That isn’t even just Puff. There’s multiple offices of people who put a plan together to make sure he won as an artist. That’s how music business worked back then. Those people’s stories won’t be told. But it’s worth understanding the young man, through Puff’s affiliation, was the leading rap artist on Arista Records. It was go-mode for Big. Everybody locked in.

[@frankj5387]

Facts!

[@mr_nadda83]

Damn Vlad. Let the man finish talking! Myyyy goodness yo...that's the one thing that pisses me off about him

[@Blueheffner11]

This man never lets anybody talk and then acts like nobody’s argument or standpoint succeeds his one of these interviews somebody’s gonna say “STFU AND LET ME FINISH” 😂😂😂

[@Wonderouz]

Aries have told him this before😂😂😂😂that's the crazy part

[@Ivanblock757]

Vlad actually right

[@nomibe]

Dr. Dre didn’t not know what to do with Eve. He shelved her once he discovered Eminem. He solely focused on Eminem and Eve was discarded.

[@Dante95nyc]

Biggie would've been as big as Sean Price if it wasn't for Diddy.

[@SportsGameVision]

And Sean was nice with it

[@randallklassen1061]

​@SportsGameVision being nice doesn't make you a superstar

[@Dante95nyc]

@@SportsGameVision He was dope, but he was limited

[@randallklassen1061]

@@Dante95nyc I loved Sean price, but he was never gonna be a superstar

[@jaredboyd513]

Solid comparison.

[@WTFBUTWHY]

Vlad literally contradicted his point with the Dame Dash/Jay Z example and I think realized it towards the end 😂

[@jaredboyd513]

I think it’s certainly plausible Jay-Z, Dame, and Biggs helped one another to a point. And once that business relationship was no longer serving them, they had every right to break it up. What the three gentlemen do with their position from there is up to them. Jay leveraged his past success and relationships to go higher. Dame, it appears, doubled down on his values. I don’t know for sure, but both of them seem pretty comfortable with their decisions. Dame may not be in the seat Hov is now, but nothing about how Dame moves makes me think he wants to be in the rooms Jay-Z is. Dame has stayed true to Dame. For better or worse.

[@WTFBUTWHY]

@@jaredboyd513 I think Vlad initially was giving the "Diddy" role more credit than the artist. Then he started shifting towards they help each other. Then ended by saying Look at Dame, he didn't do much after Jay Z. So he was kind of flip flopping his points around but overall, I think they were trying to say the same thing. In the end, it is a mix of everything. And yeah I agree, Dame has proven he doesn't want to be in the rooms Jay is in.

[@tonyvalente]

What about the Mississippi rapper that his entire album got hijacked by Diddy and biggie?

[@ShawnNDaHood]

They don’t speak on that..the south been overlooked and bit off of

[@tonyvalente]

@@ShawnNDaHood 100000%

[@riko62052]

Stop doing drugs , it's messing up your brain

[@rickyjames4228]

BIG 1 OR SUMTHING LOL

[@GollumFromMordor]

They stole his whole album and even name 😂

[@JohnnyBarton85]

Nah imagine if Quincy Jones and Rick Ruben and Large Professor would have co produced biggies first album 🤯

[@aluzza2541]

Vlad giving back to back glizzies to diddy

[@fatbackfunk]

All really great points from both y'all.. The bottom line is, Biggie had the raw talent and as Aries pointed out, was coachable, so whether it was Diddy or someone else, he was destined to succeed in the game regardless of WHO helped and worked alongside him. To Arie's point, being "coachable" is half the battle, which is the one thing, among others that stifles one's chances of success, despite their talents i.e. some motherfuckers just can't and/or aren't willing to listen, be taught, take direction, compromise etc.. and most of the time, that's what fucks em' in the end. Biggie, on the other hand, again, was coachable and clearly a team player, took direction well and voila... success was achieved, and then some! So with that said, though via Vlad's point, not just anyone can succeed as a coach/producer(true), in this case, however, it would've only been a matter of time before someone stepped up and was able to achieve what Diddy did with Biggie. Like Aries expressed, it wasn't so much it being Diddy i.e. Diddy being the 'only' person who could've done it, but he just happened to be the one.

[@jaylouis8227]

I agree with Aries on this one. Biggie was a dope MC in the Mecca of hip hop. Someone would've eventually discovered his talent.

[@rocoustilerocoustile4320]

Sorry Vlad, but I agree with Aries Spears. Diddy didn't make Biggie, Biggie made Bad Boys. Graig Mack was the first artist on Bad Boys, why Diddy couldn't turn Craig Mack into a mega star? Because there was something special about Biggie. Shout out to Mase, Shyne, The Lox, G Dep, Black Rob, but nobody on the label could compare to Biggie.

[@nickatnite16]

commercially,mase was huge. mase was a bigger crossover star than big was when he was alive

[@rocoustilerocoustile4320]

@@nickatnite16 But Mase will never be considered a legend. He was a bubble gum rapper.

[@reginaldlamar]

2pac 1st album was great a classic said more than other rappers did in 20 years

[@DeAndreBIGBlackArmSmith]

No it wasn't..u delisi0nal

[@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862]

U talkin bout gaypacalypse down?

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

It's not a classic. Mid at best

[@BeyBrightOfficial]

I’m going to agree with Vlad 💯 about this one! If you really know the history of Biggie.. he was hellbent on being a gangster rapper with lyrical intensity. Just listen to his first few songs and even his debut album. Somewhere along the way Puff Daddy figured out that he would never get to where he wanted to go with Big not smoothing out his songs. Thus.. Big Poppa and One More Chance remix. Remember.. Snoop Dogg changed the rap game instantly with his style of laid back gangster rap. People say that Michael Jordan is the goat but if he never got Phil Jackson and bought into his philosophy of changing his playing style, he wouldn’t have reached the top under Doug Collins. The bottom line is that sometimes you have to be coached into your greatness and get out of your own way. Nobody believed in Biggie other than Puff Daddy. It was all about Heavy D or LL in those days for labels looking to make a superstar. 💯

[@rashD273]

This Vlad guy always try to put Black Stars down so he can put himself on the same level “Lagend” 😂😂 Vlad you are lame old interview guy thts all it is it.

[@SBoy-ks6wt]

So true and well said. He’s not saying this about Eminem. Vlad is the same guy who over values Vanilla Ice

[@rufuseugenethompsonii4292]

Jigga after the break up , dropped the(ba during the break up) black album,(after) kingdom come, American gangster, bp3, watch the throne, magna Carter holy grail and 444. All some heat 🔥 fam, w/o dame.

[@Mobbin4theArt]

Pac Helped mold Biggie too.. Biggie infused alot of Westcoast type tracks (like Juicy) in his sound, cause Pac was lacing him with that Cali game/tone & delivery.. 💯 We thought Juicy was some Westcoast shit when it first hit.. Lol..

[@CoolWave01]

I have to agree with Vlad. BIG felt 'Juicy' was going to ruin his album. That radio hit put him out there front and center. Diddy helped polish (Pause) BIG's image and music.

[@Alpha_0mn1c1d3]

Yall are arguing but agreeing with each other 😂😂😂

[@joojoobaw]

lol classic Vlad, always getting hung up on semantics & technicalities just to be MORE correct… classic Aries too tho

[@312money77]

Debate

[@Atlboy1992]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mr.Majestic77]

If the late Nortorious B.I.G was signed to SoSo Def Records and Jermaine Dupri was pushing B.I.G's music, on Jermaine Dupri's production, he still would have been great. I always wondered if DJ Quik, Spice 1 and Ghetto Mafia was signed to Eazy-E's Ruthless Records. If the late 2Pac was on No Limit Records and his music was pushed by Master P, on Beats By The Pound productions, he still would have been one of the greatest.

[@thepharaohemmvee4995]

Cut the shit....Diddy molded BIG? Vlad really said " who doesn't even rap, like he ended up rapping, he's like really hype when he raps " bro you never watched that street freestyle footage b4 big got signed him just battling on the corner?!?!?!! That's that same 2pac big live song energy " Biggie Smalls, the millionare, the mansion, the yacht The two weed spots, the two hot glocks That's how I got the weed spot I shot dread in the head, took the bread and the Lambsbreath "... cut the fuckn games vlad

[@ivan363]

Aries = THE TRUTH

[@maxwellbrisk5622]

No, Biggie was nice lyrically but had no stand alone star power like Pac.

[@SBoy-ks6wt]

No one had star power like PAC

[@Imcryptoknight]

Feels wild to say but I 100% agree with Vlad 💯! Diddy crafted biggie into what he became. Prior to puff he was just a rhyming on the corner cat tryna emulate that roughneck thug sound but didn’t know how to make a hit record…without puff there wouldn’t have ever been a “juicy”, “BIG poppa” or a “one more chance” which blew him up and made him appeal to the masses. There are FACTS!!!!!

[@tjonesjr39able]

Vlad be tripping. Diddy just happened to be who Biggie signed with. Biggie would have still been a star. If Drake doesnt sign with Wayne, Drake still becomes a star.

[@tayeuhuru]

🤔 If that's the case puff would not of signed biggie at all. Big was The Source Unsigned Hype almost all of them got signed. Also he had been running with Tupac. However Puff and Bad Boy played a major part in his success.

[@R-L-I]

“I heard motherfuckers sayin' they made Hov Made Hov say, "Okay, so make another Hov” - Jay Z

[@rlewis3208]

It's called artist growth. Biggie and Tupac were both in their early to mid 20s. They could have excelled even more with time with or without the same producers. They had incredible talent, personalities and they could rap without writing lyrics down.

[@bigd2565]

Vlad is wrong. 50 was supposed to get signed to Diddy and that didn't workout and still blew up.

[@troyingramtroy123]

He just got shot nine times and he didn't want another biggie situation.

[@Dofresh]

They needed each other. Puff helped smooth out B.I.G’s rough and rugged flow and image. B.I.G was already a lyrical force to be wrecked with and was destined to be an all time great.

[@dmeriweather]

Vlad hurt his argument by comparing it to Jay Z. 😂

[@MouthBiteTv]

Wtf he mean by uneven skin ??? That’s a weird comment bro

[@EliteBlackSash]

Biggie had the most important thing supporting him - a major DJ. Mister Cee would have put Biggie in the right position with someone. He ALSO was linked in with DJ Clark Kent, which is how he reconnected with JayZ. Between Mister Cee and Clark Kent, he would have been in position. With that said, Diddy having him soften his style to be more soulful definitely made him bigger than he would’ve been. I don’t think he would have been mega platinum without Diddy stealing those samples lol Jay was rapping like that before the Fu Schnickens even dropped an album. They first hit the charts in 92. But Jay ALSO had a slower style before Rocafella. All that to say… what Aries is saying is true. Jay and Big were skillful, and versatile. Clark knew how to produce hits. Mister Cee knew how to make a hit. They had the connections and the know-how to put both of those guys in position. Jay left Rocafella in 2006, he wasn’t even focused on emceeing at that point. But he still dropped American Gangster in 07. Next album was Watch The Throne bruh. Magna Carta created a whole new lane in rap and On The Run became one of the biggest tours ever. 4:44, classic. He didn’t “tread water artistically” lol.. he just became more experimental and broke out of the Street Album mold. Which is what people said they wanted. Til then they was criticizing him the same way they criticize Pusha T. “All he rap about is dope”

[@HNZ_2]

He would’ve been viral and still alive 😢

[@RodriqueMcbean]

No one knows that

[@atlbraves1983]

Vlad speaking the truth 💯

[@marcjacobs8559]

I’m happy somebody said it!!! All these people in the world, one person can’t dictate your success if you’re talented.

[@JeremiahDavis-2894]

Nope talent going always show up nobody can stop it

[@Ivanblock757]

That's not true, plenty of talented people have failed

[@NoLineNoWait123AbC]

Delusional. The pufster took him to levels he would have never reached.

[@wp-theillest1987]

Big and Diddy….is a burger and cheese bro….u can have one without the other…but it ain’t the same. Best duo EVER.

[@thehypocriticalcynic9182]

Brothers have record labels, not record companies...end of discussion.

[@MiloZfunk]

Got to disagree with Vlad on Tupac’s first album that shit was brilliant. Maybe some of the production got better on the later albums, but 2Pac was fully formed on Tpacalypse now

[@Retro932]

i think Big wouldve eventually left diddy and signed with Jayz. He would been insanely huge with those guru/ kanye beats

[@rigobryant8050]

Biggie had his own thing going, he wouldn't have signed with Jay Z

[@inthelight565]

Jay-z would have signed to Biggie. You got the timelines messed up. What you on.

[@peterbadami4872]

Yeah, Biggie's talent was there. If it wasn't Diddy that gave him a deal, it would have been someone else. With B.I.G.'s style he would have been a good fit on Loud Records.

[@makkmulla3647]

Vlad has way to much opinions on what good looking for a man is lol also Biggie came from an era where TALENT MATTERED!

[@CaviarTee]

ME against the world wasn't on death row..certified classic before any death row albums he did

[@re-rocrecordings5877]

Biggie stole Juicy… let’s not ignore that. He still was great but that shit fucked me up when I found out

[@GollumFromMordor]

Biggie took ”baby baby babyyy” from Tupac and whole rapping about ”dying” which was the first album and even the second one. Not to meantion Puffy’s obsessions to sleep with every women that Tupac slept. Bad Boy camp took alot from other people, i wonder what other they stole and we dont know yet

[@Troy84Baby]

They said Pac played 'Party and Bullshit' on repeat from Oakland to LA when he first heard it. Pac wanted Big on Thug Life. Puff wasn't alone in wanting Big.

[@user-gy7og5yh2s]

Biggie would have made it no matter, it’s disrespectful too his talent to say this !!

[@fijiunlimited4503]

Biggie was unsigned hype in The Source magazine. Some producer or record company was gonna sign him, and they would've made him marketable.

[@charlieturner119]

Biggie should slap Vlad dad 😂

[@mr.chedder1691]

Dr. Dre had nas ,az, and foxy brown and didn't know what to do with them, Dre even had rahkim and didn't know what to do with him

[@peterparrisjr849]

Puff told busta to change up the screaming and the next thing Mariah Carey wants a feature

[@BandeauxPat]

Vlad is actually right.

[@ChandoisGainesjr-fn9vr]

Facts Vlad. If there's wasn't Diddy biggie wouldn't be who he wasn't! Diddy did juicy!

[@mr.chedder1691]

I agree with vlad Diddy and Tupac helped biggie Tupac gave him swag and Diddy produced music, and biggie helped Jay z told him to slow it down and make every word get heard

[@radonspace2098]

Vlad was correct on this one.

[@emblem2425]

If he didn't get with Puff it might've been Marley Marl which probably would have been greater.

[@almems380]

Glad lost his own point lol

[@misterburton2143]

Btw my 60 year old mother played "machine gun funk" like crazy when I was a kid b4 juicy

[@realtalk6195]

Why is Aries Spears consistently wrong?? With everyone else it's Vlad that's usually wrong.

[@gardyjure118]

Big and Puff was a good combination, but Big was already nice. Puff just added the commercial element. Biggie wouldn't have adapted in any situation.

[@Miss.TJ516]

Vlad that was out of line talking about Biggies looks.

[@gloriempaka9474]

Biggie said that about himself in multiple songs 😂

[@Miss.TJ516]

@@gloriempaka9474 and?

[@gloriempaka9474]

@@Miss.TJ516 and nothing si why care that vlad is saying it?

[@commentedrelationship]

No it isn’t. He’s making a point about him not having “star” looks yet selling regardless. Biggie himself talked about being unattractive.

[@NoLineNoWait123AbC]

Well, Big said it himself

[@RicoSoprano_]

Most people early Albums are always better. That don’t mean nothing. Jay-Z and Biggie would have blew up regardless. We can say this about every artist that got signed if that’s the case.

[@fr3do_dbz]

vlads worst rap take ever.. lol 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TheMmiguelito]

Fkn craaaaazy, biggie wouldn't been in jail or dead...PERIOD