Arizona Coyotes NHL RETURN already underway?

[@brodiebrazil]

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[@sampicano]

Hockey fans do not want this. Canadians do not want this. Only billionaires in Phoenix, Gary Gargles Bettman, and Americans STEALING Canada's national sport want hockey to DIE in Arizona again... Use your platform to make the NHL better....why report on this???

[@sampicano]

Winnipeg relocated to Phoenix in 1996 - and Phoenix never generated revenue for the NHL in 28 years.... Winnipeg came back in 2012... From 2012 until 2024 (when Arizona relocated to Utah) - Winnipeg (834,678) had better attendance than Phoenix (4,845,832) every year from 2012 to 2024 - Winnipeg had better franchise valuations than Phoenix every year from 2011 to 2024 - the MOMENT they relocated to Winnipeg - they became more valuable than the team in Phoenix... - Winnipeg generated ($4.9 million USD) for the NHL between 2012-2021 Phoenix lost ($141.6 million USD) during that span... A Canadian city, with 800 thousand people - was more valuable and generated more money than a team in America, using American dollars, with 4.8 million people... Fun Fact: Quebec City (839,311) has more people than Winnipeg (834,678) #BringBacktheNordiques #QuebecNordiques

[@thedrunkenwobblies1331]

This is leverage to drive price up of franchises. The NHL will not go back to Arizona for a long time outside of exhibition games. Very rarely do teams get revived in pro sports once it has failed once.

[@sampicano]

angry, beyond betrayed, I feel like the NHL wants to ignore Canadians and a Canadian national spot in favor of lining the pockets of billionaires in markets that DO NOT deserve hockey it is another reason to dislike America...Canada doesn't STEAL your sports teams....greedy Americans NEED hockey to die in the south, instead of THRIVE where it belongs in Canadian markets.... teams in Quebec City and Toronto-Hamilton would OBVIOUSLY do better than ANOTHER disaster in Atlanta, or Phoenix....only greedy Americans who hate hockey, and hate Canada want to see it die in the South....go watch football and mind your own business....try being a good person for the first time in your miserable lives and leave another countries national identity alone? greedy Americans

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@thedrunkenwobblies1331 Nice try. You proved my point.

[@FAITHandLOGIC]

The Coyotes and Rays are perfect examples of the importance of having a stadium in the right location.

[@AlexAcostaArt]

If the Yotes do come back, give them a better owner and a better arena. Fans in AZ deserved better.

[@americangiant1003]

Good news is that the most recent and last Owner of the Arizona Coyotes 1.0 already stated that he and his family won’t be involved in a very likely new Arizona NHL club 2.0

[@DANZIG138]

the dozen or so of them that exist deserve nothing

[@slapshotjack9806]

@@americangiant1003and nobody else wants to either so good luck with that kid

[@moonytheloony6516]

Yes, i agree....all 32 Coyotes fans in AZ deserve better. I'm sure there is a multitude of parking lots that the NHL can contracts a 40 seat hockey arena.

[@slapshotjack9806]

@ haha 🤣

[@thebhawks39]

If Arizona comes back the rivalry with Utah would be insane

[@gloriacaiceros8622]

Oh wow yes! I read someone from Utah say even if we get the team revived they’d still have our original team, and I was about to body check someone.

[@KristianWontroba]

Thanks for keeping us updated on this! 😊

[@BoulderCityBlues]

Arizona will support the NHL and got screwed out of the Coyotes ..A good owner like the VGK Foley they would be a huge success especially if the tax payers aren’t on the hook for building an arena .

[@ElmerFudd16]

They never supported the team in 3 different cities

[@thedrunkenwobblies1331]

@@ElmerFudd16 TV ratings were crap too. Arizona proved they aren't a legitimate hockey market time and time again. They also had numerous owners, none of whom could make it work. People who have run successful teams and businesses before couldn't make it work with assistance from the NHL. No chance they go back. Also, expecting taxpayers to not build the arena and hoping a team goes back shows an incredible level of disconnect. If you want a team, you have to build the arena. Don't wanna pay? Here are 20 other markets that will, including multiple markets like Quebec and Hamilton that have move in ready NHL arenas (Hamilton is finishing a massive renovation to the Coliseum, Quebec has a move in ready arena).

[@UtahHockeyFan9]

​@@thedrunkenwobblies1331What a terrible take. Small markets like Sunrise and Salt Lake have a team, who are both seeing great fan engagement and support. It takes competent ownership, which the Yotes never had. Arizona is a huge state, they absolutely would support hockey if it was marketed correctly and they had a team that wasn't missing the playoffs almost every year. Even Canadian teams like Ottawa have had terrible attendance in years where the team stunk. Hope the coyotes franchise gets revived to prove people like you wrong.

[@thedrunkenwobblies1331]

@@UtahHockeyFan9 you can have small markets that support teams, and large markets that don't. Arizona is in the latter. I don't buy the 'bad ownership is the reason nobody showed up'. Lots of bad owners all over sports, and fans still show up to games, so I'm not buying it. When more money is spent in daily green fees in a day in the Phoenix area, than the Coyotes made in a season, there is a problem. Hell, you could get season tickets for the cost of a round at some golf courses in that area, and the golf courses are full and the arena is not. I had a relative that played for the Coyotes. He said it was the worst fan support of the 6 places he played in the league, which also included smaller markets like Buffalo and Calgary. He said he wished Arizona had 10% of the support the players got in those other cities. The fanbase isn't there. It was an experiment to bring new people to the game, and it failed miserably.

[@UtahHockeyFan9]

@@thedrunkenwobblies1331 Lol clearly you've never met many coyotes fans. They had many diehard fans, myself included. In the 90's and early 2000's we had packed houses at every game when they had come from Winnipeg. It's only when the team started being trash when the casual fans stopped watching and attendance took a dip. Even in 2012 when they made the playoffs they had packed houses. Fans like a winning team no matter what city they're in. And the diehards always stood by their side, like in any city. I don't believe for a second that you "had a relative in the league", but even if that's true Buffalo and Calgary are not small hockey markets. One is New York state which is full of sports fans. Why do you think the IIHF host so many tournaments in Buffalo? Plus their are lots of Canadians that live in Buffalo that support the Sabres. And the Bills are one of the most popular teams in the NFL. Calgary is a crappy city and all they have is hockey, so their fans have always been good. With the right owner, the Coyotes can and will be successful. I root for Utah now because it's still my team but in a different city, but if the Yotes get revived I will make them my second team and still support them.

[@davidbrown386]

ASU is proof hockey can work in Arizona

[@bostonwarrior4824]

Yeah but they have to have a legit arena every opposing player thought playing in a 5000 capacity arena was a joke and that’s why the NHL PA eventually convince the NHL one of them many reasons. You have to have a legit stadium. And it wasn’t thrive to continue playing there, the NHL lost so much money because they were playing in a college arena..

[@Steve-bw9bs]

The Roadrunners team in the old Western Hockey League in the 60s and 70s was beloved by fans and drew good crowds, as did the International Hockey League Roadrunners in the 90s. Another minor league Roadrunners would easily fill Mullett Arena.

[@JBM425]

The Coyotes had great crowds the first few seasons after moving to Winnipeg. What started the decline was failure to have a new arena built or at least a deal for one in place. Playing in then-America West Arena was not sustainable due to the 4,000 obstructed-view seats (the arena was designed for basketball first and foremost). The Glendale arena that was ultimately built was a magnificent facility…except, it should have been on the east side of Phoenix in Scottsdale or Tempe rather than on the westernmost side of town.

[@BabyBlueMemories]

I would like to see Arizona have an actual opportunity with competent leadership and ownership. The early days of the Coyotes were looking promising.

[@tonyc8752]

lol… 30 years just wasn’t enough time for Arizona to do it right. Lmao. 🤣 this

[@JBM425]

@@tonyc8752Go back and look at attendance figures before the Coyotes moved from America West Arena to Glendale.

[@-Nobody-1]

The Hartford Whalers Booster Club still exists and still waiting for the next home game. The sad truth is its probably never happening. Don't do that to yourself.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Phoenix metro will prioritize saving the Diamondbacks first before even thinking of another hockey team.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Diamondbacks staying is more important than a hockey team that will just fail again

[@tombraider2500]

Spring training makes a baseball team in Arizona superfluous.

[@josephhouk6703]

Better owner. Better arena in a better location. Better management. Do that and we'll be drinking from Lord Stanley in the 110F heat.

[@GoingBrokeHockey]

Brodie, we miss you doing the Sharks commentary during intermissions and after the game. Looking forward to what you are going to create now that you are back with the team. You did a really good job of reinventing yourself being a content creator. I love your commentary and insight. Keep it up. God Bless

[@tombraiderstrums09]

If Shane Doan ends up being part of this group that brings hockey back to AZ, he needs to get a statue. A 50ft tall one. At the summit of Camelback. That man gave his heart and soul to the Coyotes when owner after owner couldn’t care less. Captain Coyote forever

[@kingmo8789]

Totally agreed 💯

[@Mark_Turok]

I try to keep up with this news, but I actually missed this update. Thanks Brodie!

[@MotorSportsLegend93]

I hope the Arizona Coyotes can come back to Arizona and this coming from an Arizona Diamondbacks and Arizona Cardinals fan. it would be good to see the Coyotes back for fellow Arizona hockey fans.

[@ChristopherStandardTime]

Anyone who says that hockey doesn't belong in the desert has never been to Las Vegas. Dallas Stars fan, here - I hope you get the Coyotes back. I liked them, but you loved them, Arizona. I hope you get a chance to resume that love.

[@robbi6801]

​@@michaelmarkowski204Dallas Stars with their "one State, one Team" slogan probably are part of the issue that Texas only has one team still

[@UtahHockeyFan9]

​@@michaelmarkowski204Texas already has a team bud.

[@nickc7540]

As a Coyotes fan I will continue to not watch NHL until Arizona gets a team back.

[@Chickentendey48]

Arizonaians failed the Coyotes. You didnt show up.

[@colbycramer]

as an arizona resident. PLLLLLEEEAAASSEEEEE. i just miss hockey in az.

[@ErikZarins]

@@colbycramer the Tucson Roadrunners exist too.

[@daveblock4061]

Move to Canada. I have NHL, OHL, AHL and dozens of other leagues within minutes.

[@dumbcow1]

​@@ErikZarins not for long. Murello is moving them to his new Reno arena.

Take the Jets again

[@ErikZarins]

@ get the fans and city of Tucson to run him out of town

[@ArkhamCreed1]

My first NHL game was the Coyotes. Always wanted to see them again.

[@ronpeacock9939]

If you look at the history of the NHL.. you have one question... Since when did the NHL give a damn about symmetry? They went for decades with 6 teams... then expanded over 10 years to 18.. subtracted 1.. then added 4 where they stayed at 21 for over a decade... then slowly expanded over 30 years until they reached 32... they expand for $$$$ only

[@jimt9245]

Thanks for the update Brodie! Long are the days when the Kings were the only west coast team. Going to 36 is the natural progression for the growth of the league and the NHL has pioneered new markets of late with Las Vegas. Having a greater density of teams in the Western Conference would be helpful with growing the interest in the league. And the bring back the 6 division-6 team concept which would focus on more divisional rivalries. Arizona would fill that gap in the southwest, while the addition of Houston and Atlanta would cover more of the southeast region, plus a in-state Texas rivalry.

[@MikeyWo-x9b]

Would be a very bad idea bring arizona back

[@KWally]

Ishbia will get a new building for both his teams. Win win.

[@bartphlegar8212]

Two things. One. There was always money for a team in Phoenix. And a fanbase. The problem is that it would need to be collectivized - a corporation or some other crowdfunding structure. But NHL, like all the other major pro sports leagues in North America, is slavishly devoted to the "horseracing model", which requires that ONE GUY (usually an incompetent trust fund baby like John Fisher) show up with a bucket of cash for a franchise. Then they pilfer the public for the venue. "Privatize the profit, publicize the debt." Been going on since the railroads were born...Two. A lot of the drag on the Coyotes came - not from bad fans - but from squabbling local governments, along with godawful ownership. The county getting involved helps, but the NIMBY attitude is still there amongst the tribe of cities that kicked the team around like a football. And putting it miles out of town out in an abandoned cotton field will not work. Draw a triangle between Sky Harbor, the Scottsdale Airport, and ASU Main, and that's where it needs to go. Not much land left, high political resistance, and grandstanding politicians like the ex-Scottsdale mayor, stand in the NHL's way. To do it right in PHX, the NHL is going to have to evolve and embrace new franchising strategies that give upstarts more power and more capital (financial and political) to get it done...I would say the same thing is true in Tampa with the Rays, where MLB stands in MLB's way...My own two cents worth? Tempe Diablo Stadium. Start a range war with MLB if you need to, but who cares? The Angels can play in one of the other dozen or so ballparks in the area. TDS is old - outdated by MLB's own standards. Kick them out and tear it down. Build your new Coyotes arena there. About the same footprint. Add some parking. Prior use status as a sports venues gets the NIMBY witches out of the picture...But that won't happen. Why? Because it makes too much sense, and it's too economical...

[@LHOH197]

They go to 36 teams you almost have to go back to 6 divisions with 6 teams in each

[@Thunderduck1]

I hope so ......

[@talcat8031]

No. I think they should remove divisions and leave it as conferences.

[@Thunderduck1]

@@talcat8031 No....if so, they would have to play each other 4times and could not play the other Conference twice, and 82 + is needed

[@talcat8031]

@@Thunderduck1 why? Just play everyone twice and in conference 3 times and 5 of the in conference teams only twice each year rotating them. This balances the schedule much more and same with the playoff seeding which will be more important the more teams there are.

[@Thunderduck1]

@@talcat8031 3 and 5 would mean uneven match ups........ 2 Conferences, 3 Divisions each, 6 teams per Division

[@RealFM25]

As an Arizona coyote fan that never lived in Arizona that team was still part of my identity. I was heartbroken when they left. I was hoping that the Utah Hockey Club would help fill the void and it’s almost done the complete opposite. For now I try to not get down and just pretend hockey doesn’t exist right now.

[@katemoo9581]

That’s great news to hear. Hope it happens.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

the NHL just wants the tv market, nothing more. Once you understand why Gary was fixated on this market for decades, you understand a lot. All about getting a massive tv/cable deal in the US, need the potential eye balls even if the market doesn't care. Same with that proposed Atlanta part 3.

[@douglasmace7703]

Another team… just dilute the talent pool completely. Surely there are better markets. Why not Cleveland, Quebec…. Saskatoon. Bring the Mooseheads in from Halifax or bring back the Whalers in Hartford

[@jamesfergus594]

Jimmy from Chicago….Hi Brody…..We will see….Love the show….Thanks!…..😊😊😊

[@DanB-ez8fz]

It isn’t the fans who failed NHL hockey in Arizona. It’s the various owners who were/are responsible. Hope the rebirth of the Coyotes becomes a reality.

[@-Nobody-1]

The Hartford Whalers Booster Club still exists and still waiting for the next home game. The sad truth is its probably never happening. Don't do that to yourself.

[@tombraiderstrums09]

@@DanB-ez8fz it’s never the fans’ fault. It’s on the team to create a great game day experience and a competitive on-ice product.

[@havokan45]

Arizona finally with a Owner who cares the team could be good the question if the team comes back should they go with Coyotes or pick a different team name .

[@vincesmith2499]

There shouldn't be more than thirty-two NHL teams.

[@Cardinal_73]

Well as an Arizonan speaking, we need a hockey team, so put the fries in the bag and deal with it

[@robertshewmaker1442]

The NHL is not ready to expand. Rosters are already noticeably less deep. A larger number of teams than any time I remember do not have a quality goalie. Expanding any further only waters the talent down.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Bingo

[@mathewlee5712]

Well of course, Brody will never miss an opportunity to talk about his dearly beloved Coyotes.

[@brodiebrazil]

desert dogs

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@mathewlee571 So?

[@ODSTGodzilla]

@@brodiebrazil desert clowns that couldn't pay there bills..........

[@mathewlee5712]

@@NHLCrazy2007 Of course, also Paul Gheduzzi's most dearly beloved

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@mathewlee5712 Oh look, this moron with ONE subscriber and no videos is trolling people now, not just certain video topics. Do that again and I will be sure not just report you but I will get the authorities involved.

[@johngibson8636]

It’s a good sign, but they need to identify a qualified owner this time, an arena that would be viable, resolution of the Diamondbacks stadium situation. There’s a ton of heavy lifting to be done.

[@intentionaloffside8934]

They had a nice arena in Glendale, but perhaps not a great lease deal. Their ownership, however, was always shady, and never negotiated in good faith. The NHL will likely add 4 teams to balance all the divisions. Houston, Phoenix, Atlanta, Kansas City, and Quebec City are all possibilities.

[@howie9416]

@intentionaloffside8934 arena is located far from the population base ....needs to be in the east valley...there are lots of transplants here now like myself and are hockey fans

[@UserName-ts3sp]

I wonder if they find a second east team, and no Quebec City is not a serious market. The options seem pretty limited in the Eastern time zone outside of Atlanta

[@SFBWasTaken]

Gotta put it in downtown Phoenix if they wanna make it work. Tempe be a good alternative if they can find the place.

[@Canadianbaseball]

While Bettman is Commish Az is getting a team if at all possible. Add Coyotes in the West and absolutely need to add one in the East. Easiest, most economical choice would be Quebec City (NHL rink and ownership ready to go)

[@JonDoe-ln6nl]

Rink, yes. Ownership, non.

[@garymartin6987]

Glendale, AZ already has a hockey venue. All the former team had to do was pay the lease that they agreed to.

[@rwall3450]

Glendale works for the Cardinals who plays there once a week but not long term for a hockey team who plays there at least 3 times a week during hockey season. I could see maybe Glendale being a temporary home since the hockey arena there while a brand new facility in downtown Phoenix is built but not long term.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@rwall3450 While that is the only way Glendale does that, I also don't see it either as they plan to turn Desert Diamond Arena into mainly a concert venue. The Rattlers play there, but for how long is anyone's guess. And yes, a new downtown Phoenix arena is a must for the Suns and Coyotes 2.0. Got to make that happen.

[@tombraider2500]

Glendale location was the reason fandom never flourished in Arizona. Won’t make that mistake twice.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

Exactly.

[@JohnDeMarchiGianni]

Betman is going to have to relize that some of these US markets doesn't work for the NHL.

[@brenthonn-r9w]

the suns arena (downtown) is over 30 years old and will be replaced soon (the city of phx owns). best case is mat ishbia gets expansion team and new arena is build sooner than planned for. the city had talked about the old south convention center block for new arena (its across the street from current and dbacks stadium). crossing my fingers.

[@nickb2912]

The reason why the NHL wants Arizona is because of the TV market. This would allow the NHL to get better tv deals allowing them to no longer rely on ticket sales for revenue. It would become a secondary source for revenue with national tv becoming number one. They want Houston and Atlanta for the same reason

[@anotheramericancrisis9924]

Thank you for this video and thank you for the news you know you're really the only 1 that I get to listen to that tells me anything about my coyotes I miss them very much I don't even live anywhere near phoenix anymore I'm in North Carolina. But I want my team back So thank you

[@georgeblangfordjr.1771]

Phoenix needs an NHL team again. We want to see Coyotes 🆚 Golden Knights desert showdown rivalry back and new rivalry with Coyotes 🆚 Utah Yeti or Mammoth

[@NHLCrazy2007]

It would be exciting to see.

[@qualicumwilson5168]

Like NBA in Vancouver Canada. There are at least a dozen other cities that are going to be tried as a location before the NBA retries Vancouver or NHL retries Phoenix. Period. Gone PS you do realize that I could watch a Canucks game in Phoenix for less than 1/3 the cost of seeing one in Vancouver. AND there was still a smaller crowd. (Oh and I could still buy a Timmy Ho's Coffee.)

[@colbycramer]

this might b a dumb question. but why are we trying to build a new arena ? why don’t they just play at the footprint center with the suns?

[@dmoran1093]

Because it's not set up for NHL. That's why they originally moved to Glendale. And I dont think the suns owner wants to share it.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@dmoran1093 No, that's in regards to former Suns owner Robert Sarver. Mat Ishbia has stated he wants the NHL come back.

[@dmoran1093]

@@NHLCrazy2007 oh thats cool but the arena is still not set up for it and will need rebuilt like what the delta center will be doing

[@tofutuesday]

I live in Phoenix. I have seen or heard nothing about teams from California or Colorado trying to poach fans here. Colorado is too far away to even be a player, in my opinion. But, the Vegas Golden Knights HAVE been making an effort. VGK games are already broadcast locally on Scripps in Phoenix in Tucson, sharing the channel with the Utah Club. I've seen TV commercials about hockey camps and there are watch parties for the VGK. As a VGK fan since day fing 1, there was no issue with who I would support. I was definitely sad to see the Coyotes go, and i do hope an NHL team cam come back here ASAP so I can attend games here to watch my Knights beat them 🤣

[@-Nobody-1]

The Hartford Whalers Booster Club still exists and still waiting for the next home game. The sad truth is its probably never happening. Don't do that to yourself.

[@georgehand]

I really hope that this works out and the Desert Dogs come back as they should never have been moved to Salt Lake in the first place and I miss them playing our Sharks dearly!!!

[@FalconFBDT64]

While I hate gaining a team at the expense of another state. The State of Utah in the 5 months they've been here has treated this team better than Arizona ever did. The state and it's people has rallied around them. They are truthfully far better off now in Utah.

[@CoelhoSports]

@FalconFBDT64 Utah average attendance of 11,131 is last and thousands below the next lowest NHL team.

[@FalconFBDT64]

@CoelhoSports if you did your research which you slightly tried to do but ultimately failed at, you'd know that the 11k is only the unobstructed seating, which is what the NHL only allows to be counted. The team however is averaging around 16k if you add in the obstructed seating, which they arent counting towards official attendance. Which by my calculations is just under the average attendance for the whole league at around 17k. And once the arena's renovations are complete, The Delta will hold over 18k. The State of Utah is giving the team everything Arizona refused to.

[@CoelhoSports]

@@FalconFBDT64 "utah is giving the team everything arizona refused to" like seats where you can't see the net and have to watch a monitor to see a goal scored? if you add obstructed seats to your total, you have to add obstructed, standing room tix, etc, to everyone else's totals as well. i guess we'll have to wait and see if these theoretical attendance figures come to be. when the lightning franchise was first awarded (no expansion draft and full franchise fee), phil esposito didn't even have an arena. the NHL said they needed at least 10k seats their first season, so espo found a way to cram just over 10k seats in expo hall at the state fairgrounds in tampa if they had the locker rooms OUTSIDE in tents (which is doable in florida). after that they moved to the dome in st pete where they had over 28k for a playoff game while they waited for their current purpose built arena in tampa where i have been many times. i also grew up in boston with the old garden where they had I beams holding the upper deck up in the middle of the lower bowl seats (and giant rats). i get how things can be less than optimal sometimes, but you have to compare apples to apples and utah has what it has.

[@CoelhoSports]

@@FalconFBDT64 "utah is giving the team everything" like seats where you can't see a goal scored. we'll see what happens in the future

[@vamoscruceros]

I think the NHL is desperate to get back into Atlanta, and goimg from 32 to 34 is better than going from 32 to 33. The NHL could run each conference as a single table if they expand to 34 - play your conference rivals 3 times each, and teams in the other conference 2 times; (16 x 3) + (17 x 2) = 82 games. I also suspect the NHL has taken note of the NBA's play-in tournament and sees an opportunity to monetize a similar arrangement.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

They are not desperate, bud. And if you even paid attention, it is business people in the Atlanta area that are doing the work to get another chance.

[@mrpac-man1603]

If they get greedy with those ticket prices, they can stay gone

[@Steve-bw9bs]

Absent an NHL team, placing an AHL team in Phoenix could make sense. AHL is the top minor professional league in N America, as was the old Western Hockey League in the 60s and 70s. The WHL Roadrunner teams were beloved by fans. They drew good crowds, as did the International Hockey League Roadrunners in the 90s. There are good hockey fans in Phoenix and they'd undoubtedly welcome Roadrunners back with open arms. An AHL team will also offer a more family friendly ticket price. If hockey villain Alex Meruelo, who once promised to relocate his AHL Roadrunners from Tucson to Phoenix, follows through on moving the Tucson franchise to Reno, NV instead, the AHL would have to grant a new franchise to Phoenix. Looking at the Tucson Roadrunners' attendance figures, a Phoenix AHL team would likely be a able to fill Mullet Arena. The franchise that could only be named Roadrunners if Meruelo signed over the naming rights, and he'd probably only do it for an exorbitant fee.

[@bostonwarrior4824]

You need an arena that’s the first thing and the main goal you have to build one somewhere in the Phoenix Metro area. Playing at asu was just not thrived for the NHL they lost too much money and opposing players thought it was a joke. They gotta get an ownership who’s willing to build an ice arena

[@glennmorin7431]

And What about Quebec City (the Nordiques)???

[@Simon-tc1mc]

NHL should expand to 35 teams and change to a 5 team divsional format where playoffs are fully decided by divional standings. It will completely change the league, but will make the season more exciting.

[@e-c-dia]

I want the Coyotes back!! Arizona States been killing it in the NCAA! We need the Desert Dawgs back!

[@stevenbauer4799]

Get it straight. utah hc is a brand new franchise. Az. yotes cease exist as a franchise. Folded and now defunct as a franchise like cali golden seals/barons once merulio renounced his rights as az. yote owner. Now nhl needs to give winnipeg jets 1.0 their history back.

[@jurgenvietinghoff853]

Gary Bettman neverending Hard on for Arizona to have a NHL team there.

[@robertshewmaker1442]

Bettman values TV markets over hockey markets.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

34 teams actually works well. Play each team twice and the 16 teams in your conference three times no divisions and you get 82 games lol

[@ElmerFudd16]

This is perfect

[@joes3-e13]

The NHL is fine at 32 teams, there's been rumors of teams relocating, that should be taken care of 1st. I don't see where the NHL has enough talented players to add extra teams. Maybe a relocated minor league team can be put in Arizona.

[@veteranfox4572]

Was a votes fan until we got it taken away but at least I have the VGK who are keeping hockey on life support in Az

[@DuckOfRubber]

I do think the NHL is better positioned than the other pro leagues to make the jump to 36. Being popular in Canada has gotten them to 32 on the backs of markets the NFL, NBA, and MLB would never consider, while leaving large US markets like Phoenix, Atlanta, and Houston available. That's 3 prime options right there, and there are other viable small-medium markets that are definitely doable like Kansas City, Portland, or Quebec. A second (and probably third) Toronto area team would be financially viable, although league politics would obviously be a hurdle. Versus where are the other leagues going to expand at this point? The NBA and MLB (sort of) are obviously trying to get into Las Vegas, but then what?

[@NHLCrazy2007]

Quebec City will never get a team back for as long as the Canadian dollar is in bad shape.

[@davidjohnbrown3329]

Why does a city with already two established arenas? Need another one? Didn’t the Coyotes play at both at one stage?

[@tombraiderstrums09]

They did. But Footprint Center (aka America West Arena when the Yotes played there) was too small for hockey and had obstructed sight lines like the Delta Center does now. And Glendale Arena is in Glendale, which is an hour drive one-way for the bulk of the fan base that resides in the Scottsdale-Tempe-Chandler area.

[@Chickentendey48]

@@tombraiderstrums09 Except State Farm sells out every game. Hmmm.... your logic is flawed. No one watches hockey in Arizona or even cares.

[@tombraiderstrums09]

@@Chickentendey48 going to a football game at most 8 times a year, for the bulk of the day, on weekends with traffic, is a hell of a lot easier than going to 41 hockey games a year, for only about three hours, when the games take place on weekdays after work.

[@dustyb58]

You keep saying the Coyotes went to Utah but they didn't. It's a new franchise. The Coyotes are done-zo.

[@LarryWeinreb]

Hey Brodie - did you see Bobby Orr was here in Atlanta with the Krause Group (builders of the arena / district The Gathering) for the Forsyth County Comission vote?

[@markreid8863]

What are your keyboard specs?

[@ErikZarins]

It's desperation. None of these leaders stepped up to oust Alex Meruelo. None of these past ownership have known how to market the club and it began burning out the glamour that Phoenix could've been a hockey market. Cities like Nashville, Dallas, Tampa and Raleigh had their hiccups but rebounded with a loyal fan base and we saw the Panthers finally earn their loyalty in South Florida after winning the cup. Phoenix....it's just not gonna rebound the second time around. Oh and one more thing.....no NHL sized arena in Phoenix (Glendale is NOT giving the Coyotes a second chance)

[@marsrover0]

Wrong

[@ErikZarins]

@ prove the worth. During the final months of the franchise I never saw ANY of the fan base protesting games or petitioning politicians to "save the franchise" You wanna know a club that did that? The Columbus Crew of MLS. Anthony Precourt threatened to move the club to Austin, fans began "Save The Crew" from 2017 to 2018, Precourt eventually sold the team and under new ownership The Crew have won two MLS Cups and the Leagues Cup and remain extremely competitive since. The Coyotes could've been that.

[@marsrover0]

@ErikZarins watch this video and you'll see. Either way hockey will be back in the desert whether you like it or not.

[@ErikZarins]

@ watching this the second time won't change my opinion bud. The second best option to rebuild the hockey market is reaching out to the PWHL. That league has been growing and the fans are loving every minute of it. Vancouver sold out 19K for a Montreal/Toronto game. If you think "women's sports" won't fill a void, it sure as hell been working for Seattle as the Storm still play in the WNBA after the SuperSonics left for OKC.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@marsrover0 You cannot change the minds of ignorant people. Let them be wrong on their own.

[@mittens123e]

I want the same courtesey given to Quebec City

[@ES-hr6vg]

The market is just too small.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

When you're the smallest pro market outside of Green Bay, you're not going to get many chances.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

RESEARCH before commenting.

[@evermar1]

pretty much another slap to Meruelo and his cronies.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

Alex Meruelo should not be spared anything,.

[@HugginsUnlimited]

Phoenix, Mexico City, Houston, Austin

[@JPS47]

They could always move the Jets down to Arizona... oh wait.

[@scawfan75]

well, if you read more the Jets for the last few seasons have had declining attendance, it got so bad that the Jets made a statement I believe 2 years ago cause it got so loud. The league told Winnipeg that they had to sellout cause their arena is the smallest in the league and if they can't keep their promise, they will move again.

[@JPS47]

I heard about that. It would be hilariously sad if that happens again but more likely the Jets would move back to Atlanta.

[@katemoo9581]

Arizona will get an expansion team most likely

[@petergary7280]

Nooooo

[@petergary7280]

Attendance in Winnipeg is up substantially sorryy

[@JustJoshLTRB]

You dont need to have an even number of teams in basketball or hockey. Plenty of seasons have been played with uneven divisions.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

It happened when Nashville joined the league, so the NHL will manage until team #34 begins playing.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

There were a few years where it was 31

[@hockeynut178]

I'm from winnipeg and I moved down to AZ to watch my team leave not once but TWICE. Im still a Jets fan first but the Coyotes leaving was a real punch in the balls.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Oh boy...I'll play "fantasy" hockey predictions. Milwaukee, Arizona, Houston and Atlanta for expansion to 36. Quebec City and Hartford have no hope as long as the Montreal Canadiens and Boston Bruins keep blocking them (they wanted to save Cincinnati and Birmingham in 1979, but had politically weaker owners back then compared to today). 6 divisions x 6 teams each=36 teams. *Pacific:* Anaheim, Las Vegas, Arizona, Los Angeles, San Jose, Utah *Northwest:* Colorado, Calgary, Seattle, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Vancouver *Central:* Houston, Nashville, Minnesota, Dallas, St. Louis, Milwaukee *Northeast:* Buffalo, Ottawa, Boston, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal *Metro:* Pittsburgh, N.Y. Islanders, Columbus, Philadelphia, N.Y. Rangers, Chicago (strong political allies like Detroit and Toronto will help Chicago move East ahead of Nashville) *Atlantic:* Miami, Atlanta, Washington, Tampa Bay, Raleigh, New Jersey (strongarmed away from the others after Pittsburgh and Chicago demand that Columbus stays in the Metro over the Brooklyn Dodgers of ice hockey)

[@NHLCrazy2007]

Your reason for Quebec City not getting a team anytime soon is not why the NHL will not go there. Not sure about putting Chicago in the same division as the Rangers or the Devils with the southeast teams.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@NHLCrazy2007 - Ever heard of POLITICS!?! How else can you explain the Atlanta Braves and Falcons being trapped in Western divisions for over 20 years?! And it's a well known fact that Montreal does NOT want a team in Quebec City again! Montreal has been outpoliticked before, but it's a lot harder now than back then. The Metro and Atlatic divisions are anyone's guesses, but never forget that POLITICS dictates division realignments as seen with the Dallas Cowboys still in the NFC East!

[@BreakTime10101]

We have a nice arena in Glendale that’s ready to go. 😂 BTW, in addition to Utah, Vegas also has broadcast rights in Arizona now.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

You know they are renovating it to be mainly a concert venue, but I guess you did not want to mention that.

[@BreakTime10101]

@ Didn’t know that. But I was joking, hence the laughing emoji.

[@ozzmoises]

Instead of going to a deserving market like Quebec the NHL will try to again force a market that never made a dime and cost the league hundreds of millions. No way in hell do they deserve another chance already.

[@OldRustySteele]

Totally agree. Houston, Quebec City, and Kansas City all would be better choices than Phoenix.

[@sebby3934]

Hey Brodie, jusg wondering if you would be willing to make a video going in depth on Diamond Baseball Holdings and how one company is essentially buying up all minor league teams, creating a monopoly. Love the content, keep it up!!

[@nathanjw940]

Phoenix needed to lose the team to get people to actually do something sadly. Do you think this would have happened if they were still in Phoenix I don't

[@NHLCrazy2007]

It was about getting Alex Meruelo out of the league.

[@ronkerzner4825]

Why should they have another team they stopped supporting them. Quebec and hartford should have a team

[@molnya2]

Hartford is a dump

[@-Nobody-1]

Sorry to say it, but its not going to work out. It never does. If the Whalers haven't come back... the Coyotes wont either. The NHL will expand elsewhere, and those other location deserve a fair shake over Arizona. So many more attractive NHL franchise locations out there.

[@JohnHillRSNStudios]

Kinda reminds me of the Charlotte Hornets situation over twenty years ago

[@kingmo8789]

You know I always wondered, why the Charlotte Hornets move to New Orleans? And why didn't the NBA expand to New Orleans isn't relocating? It doesn't make sense for them to kept the Hornets name in New Orleans all the way to 2013

[@JohnHillRSNStudios]

@ mainly because Hornets ownership at the time had ruined their relationship with the fans and the city of Charlotte to the point where the arena deal that George Shinn wanted was soundly rejected by the voters mainly because of his massive unfavorable ratings with them. He got mad about it and opted to leave instead of try to get a renovation of the very arena he pushed to get built not even twenty years before.

[@The73MPL4R]

It's nearly the exact same situation. If the NHL does indeed go back to Arizona, Utah will give the Coyotes branding and history back to them, meaning Utah will be treated as an expansion team and the Coyotes will be treated as inactive during the time period in between, just like what happened with the Hornets and Pelicans.

[@JBM425]

I hope the NHL can go back to Arizona. Thanks to the Coyotes, youth hockey blossomed, and that system developed the likes of Auston Matthews,, Matthew Knies, Josh Doan, and others. It also led to Arizona State making the leap from club hockey to D-1.

[@CJTheeOne]

If it has good ownership who will want to spend to win. Then they should bring em back. One way to get fans on board is they bring in an investment group to fund tue arena no tax dollars included.

[@DAILYBLUNTATHON]

This information makes the initial Coyotes relocation seem even more criminal and more sinister than they initially seemed. The first relocation was done in farce and is a crystal clear indictment against the basic and fundamental principles of competitive sports which leagues worldwide must uphold.

[@DAILYBLUNTATHON]

Second sentence extremely clunky but you get what I'm tryna say

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@DAILYBLUNTATHON Please explain.

[@DAILYBLUNTATHON]

@NHLCrazy2007 The well being of fans needs to come before money schemes by ownership. When owners exploit cities it is very bad for BOTH functionality and credibility of league. When leagues are unnecessarily moving teams and/or making no effort to keep a team in their market it represents an attack on a key principle of leagues themselves which is a COMMITMENT to stability and tradition. And the fact that there is a brand new Arizona Coyotes proves this whole exercise put ownership profits above fans and cities.

[@jamierichardson9888]

The NHL is not ready to expand. The two reasons are 1) talent pool is not ready to expand. 2) The talent pool of officials is not good enough yet. Let’s get these right first !!!

[@NHLCrazy2007]

Ah yes, as if you work for the league. You are no expert by any means about the business of sports.

[@HighpointerGeocacher]

Hockey players come from all over the world, particularly from Europe. If you watch old clips on KZbin of NHL games in the 70's and 80's and compare them today, you will clearly observe that the quality of play is far superior today despite the greater number of teams.

[@scottNNJ]

I agree with you. As much as I’d like to see NHL in Phoenix and (yes) Atlanta, it would be too much dilution. The approach to scheduling games would need to change and a grassroots effort to develop officials needs to be made. Both USA Hockey and Hockey Canada have cited difficulties in getting refs for youth games, and if only the best of the best make it to the NHL, that becomes a really small pool when you get to the premier level of professional leagues - unless they go back to the old system of one ref on the ice as they used to (not that I advise that).

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@scottNNJ How is it too much dilution? The growth of hockey at the global level is continuing with a growing talent pool. At most with 4 more teams, we are talking about 92 roster spots. That is not many compared if you look at the number of options players have around the world to go play professionally. You just fear the idea of less than 50% teams qualifying for the postseason and hurting fan interest.

[@ElmerFudd16]

@@NHLCrazy2007Neither are you, captain clown 🤡

[@BrandanTheBroker]

So did they ever even hold the auction for the land? What's so different this time over the last time? Why not give somewhere like Alaska or Lake Tahoe or anywhere else a chance vs going back to Phoenix right now? Not against Phoenix getting another team but why so early?

[@jamesfranke4521]

It'll be at least 15-20 years

[@WindomRettes]

Let's hope it never happens.

[@ZaKRo-bx7lp]

The NHL didn't do anything about the horrible ownership group in Arizona until it was too late and it bit them in the butt.

[@JBM425]

True. The league messed up not in allowing the Jets to move to Phoenix, but not requiring ownership to have an agreement for a new hockey-first arena in place. America West Arena had so many obstructed view seats that it wasn’t a financially-viable long-term home. That they ultimately built it in Glendale rather than Scottsdale or Tempe was a fatal decision.

[@KittyPurrfect100]

Just get a new team in Toronto because the Maple Leafs aren’t going beyond the first round. Move the original Maple Leafs to Hamilton and expand with an expansion team called the Maple Leafs in Toronto so that they may earn a participation trophy too.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

NO.

[@KittyPurrfect100]

@NHLCrazy2007 it’s a joke

[@PWS1717]

Noooooooo...this isn't a hockey market and the equalization money sent to Arizona over the decades should never happen again. There should be a 20yr ban on even having this discussion..

[@fatzotv]

You right,,. Phoenix is a drug market! Relocate the meth manufactures to Phoenix!

[@NHLCrazy2007]

Too bad. But you can go off the rails once Arizona gets a team back.

[@howie9416]

@PWS1717 meanwhile ASU is doing well.....they have a team because of the coyotes

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@howie9416 ​Howie, see the predictable hate keep flowing in? Alll it takes is for it to be about the NHL and Arizona in the same sentence and all the ***holes come out of the woodwork. As predictable as flies on s***. Not only are they hateful, they are stupid as well. It is like being in the vicinity of an ***hole driver who is also quite stupid in operating a car.

[@Steve-bw9bs]

The Roadrunners team in the old Western Hockey League in the 60s and 70s was beloved by fans and drew good crowds, as did the International Hockey League Roadrunners in the 90s. Another minor league Roadrunners would easily fill Mullett Arena.

[@billybumpers]

Great video! I feel like with the players and hockey fans outside of AZ, the coyotes name has a bad stigma and bringing that name back would be bad for a new team. Come up with new branding for a fresh start and let's not bring past embarrassments into a new organization if it happens

[@sewdz]

yea AZ should have a team. Just do it properly.

[@danpietila6555]

They need a viable long term building in the right location. They had 3 decades to get it right they got way too many fair shakes. Team should have been moved a long long time ago.

[@NSUCarlos]

I hope to see this but one of the long term small negatives, especially if a second team gets added to like Houston....is that the Blackhawks would probably move to the Eastern Conference. Dispite how you feel about them, they are always a big draw and it might take a bit of star power away from the West.

[@kingmo8789]

I really hope that the Arizona Coyotes can come back and has a competent ownership to make them a success

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

What is the NHL’s desperation to have a team in AZ? Is it because Bettman wants to make sure he was right to have a team there? Is it because players like Auston Matthews & a bunch northern transplant kids are there who need to have an NHL team to grow NHL pool of players? I say, AZ, ATL & Quebec get in line after Houston.

[@NHLCrazy2007]

Here is some advice. Educate yourself before accusing a league of being "obsessed" with a particular market.

[@scottNNJ]

I’d say it’s because they have a passionate fan base - they don’t need to market the game to try and lure fans as they would if they were to enter a new market. The problem was 100% ownership. Look at Chicago - Bill Wirtz was a horrible owner that pushed fans away and kept the team off of TV. When he died and his son Rocky took over with an entirely different way of running things, the fans came back and the team saw success almost immediately. (Yes, there were some major problems that were revealed later, but that doesn’t take away from the impact of new ownership).

[@Mr.BillyJoeMcAllister]

@@NHLCrazy2007 They failed on Arizona. The fact is there before your eyes!

[@NHLCrazy2007]

@@Mr.BillyJoeMcAllister Listen pal, when will you learn that ownership has much to do with any franchise success? But you can keep trying all you want to shit on any optimism of the NHL's potential return to Arizona, but you cannot do a thing about what happens.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

It's a big market. I think they should be behind Houston in terms of priority tho

[@pite9]

Come on. They just lost their team. I feel bad for the loyal fans, but they left for a reason. If they really wanted the team, they should have tried harder to save it, so that Utah could have gotten a real expansion team.

[@sampicano]

Winnipeg relocated to Phoenix in 1996 - and Phoenix never generated revenue for the NHL in 28 years.... Winnipeg came back in 2012... From 2012 until 2024 (when Arizona relocated to Utah) - Winnipeg (834,678) had better attendance than Phoenix (4,845,832) every year from 2012 to 2024 - Winnipeg had better franchise valuations than Phoenix every year from 2011 to 2024 - the MOMENT they relocated to Winnipeg - they became more valuable than the team in Phoenix... - Winnipeg generated ($4.9 million USD) for the NHL between 2012-2021 Phoenix lost ($141.6 million USD) during that span... A Canadian city, with 800 thousand people - was more valuable and generated more money than a team in America, using American dollars, with 4.8 million people... Fun Fact: Quebec City (839,311) has more people than Winnipeg (834,678) #QuebecNordiques

I hope its a relocated team. The NHL has about as much business expanding to 36 teams as MLS does. No one else has more than 32 teams. That being said I want a team back in Phoenix but do it the proper (centrally located arena, strong ownership group) way. Relocate the Jets or Carolina, they are in worthless, nothing, AHL-at-best markets anyway and won't be missed. But the NHL needs NHL teams in Atlanta, Houston, and Phoenix to make up for their permanent handicap of having 7 teams in Canada. Hurts their TV deal down in the states.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

You are a Ron-Ed-Tom-Alvin-Rod-Don if you think Winnipeg is relocating! Metro New York City has too many teams! Get rid of one of them instead! Also, I bet networks won't complain when the NFC East becomes an all euro division, when the NFL expands to 36 teams, thus you are an Alice-Sal-Sam-Harry-Otto-Lisa-Edith if you think Canada should lose more teams!

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 LOL I'm Elon Mush compared to you, President Biden. Winnipeg is and will always be a minor league market unless they discover a trillion dollars worth of oil or something underneath its prairies. Eh?

[@mikehalkides7044]

Carolina plays to 100% capacity

@@mikehalkides7044 and they charge peanuts for their ticket prices. And how much money do they make there overall? Whats the team value? More to it the just selling tickets. Raleigh is vastly inferior compared to Houston.