He will now have to miss the first half of the Sun Devils CFP game. Good call or nah?
@yachtclub846Ай бұрын
He’s just tackling to the man, it’s human instinct to lower your head a little but it’s not intentional and it’s bs comin from an Penn State fan
@h4xagon909Ай бұрын
good call, bad rule. it's football. it's a physical sport. no crown of the helmet, just ran into him full speed.
@peterpeck-y9vАй бұрын
nah call me an idiot but that is clean. Just a big hit
@TheDailyDoseofSports_817Ай бұрын
@@pschighlights Fair sack
@mikesul16Ай бұрын
It’s the only call. They either take this out of the game or let the game die. We know hits like this can and often do cause brain injuries. I didn’t see malicious intent here and it sucks for the kid, but they have to call that because they need to be consistent. This aspect of the game is too important to be anything less than that.
@GoldenBananaManАй бұрын
Joe forgot to actually care about the player then doubled back lmao
@411-abcАй бұрын
He didn't just go head hunting, he literally applied extra effort to ensure his own body weight impacted the quarterback upon hitting the field! Why can't players just tackle the opposition?
@GoldenBananaManАй бұрын
@177kimo yeah it's called someone doesn't pay attention during practice and would rather try and give someone irreversible brain damage.
@nealkeeton1514Ай бұрын
If football was safe, everyone would play it!!
@poptartkilla3718Ай бұрын
I don’t think Joe realized it was helmet to helmet at first
@deraelevans222Ай бұрын
Joe forgot he wasn’t at a boxing match 😂, but the QB dipped alil which led to H2H people to sensitive Football is a violent sport.
@mrmcnastyy8742Ай бұрын
Announcer about creamed his pants when it happened and then ranted about how dirty it was lmao so fake
@sixers77Ай бұрын
I mean it was way easier to see in slow motion that it was targeting
@LukeJ-cq8ksАй бұрын
I mean he literally called him a human missile that sounds like targeting to me
@chazrooks4681Ай бұрын
He stepped into the hit and turned his body. The targeting call is pretty shit. You can see the QB dip and step into the hit@sixers77
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
Ok quagmire
@yuwish6320Ай бұрын
There are two announcers with different opinions.
@bigSean2325Ай бұрын
15 years ago, that’s SC top 10 and on all the highlight reels
@mjjoe76Ай бұрын
Turns out there have been enough cases of CTE and other brain injuries to change expectations.
@badgercdlyonsАй бұрын
Guys taking those hits from 15 years ago are now drooling on the floor while they try to figure out how to tie their shoes. And football noticed.
@evanmurpheyАй бұрын
Yup, now it’s illegal!
@LukeJ-cq8ksАй бұрын
And?
@ghost2112_fpvАй бұрын
I noticed more and more players not even having their mouthguards in during plays then complain about targeting when they get hit too hard
@chrisbalsamo968Ай бұрын
Kudos for hanging on to the ball
@jefffisher1297Ай бұрын
Who failed to pick that guy up, somebody blew their assignment.
@BleedHuskerRed2011Ай бұрын
I saw it live on tv and after the hit, this was my first thought.
@TylerR-n2cАй бұрын
Damn, he got trucked
@gatorguysix7631Ай бұрын
This hit is miniscule compared to the hit UGA’s backup QB got while running vs. Texas yesterday. ROCKED. Knee bent back, eyes went up, stopped dead in his tracks….still not sure how he got up immediately
@CYCLONEFAN88Ай бұрын
It’s worth considering the size difference of Rocco and Carson
@zgarrett14Ай бұрын
It wasnt Carson itnwas Gunner Stockton@CYCLONEFAN88
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@gatorguysix7631 And they picked up the flag for targeting there… Insane because to me this hit was clearly a textbook wrap up tackle where the only contact near the head was because of the QB ducking into a full squat. While that hit was always an attempt to hit the QB as hard as physically possible by any means
@Tanador68014 күн бұрын
@@McFarkle "textbook wrap up tackle" where he leaves his feet? Also you're allowed to hit someone hard when they're not "defenseless"
@peterli762621 күн бұрын
After watching ASU vs Texas, came back here to be even more confused what targeting is.
@Tanador68014 күн бұрын
The difference is that targeting requires an "indicator of targeting" and you can see the ASU defender launched himself (you can see him just barely leaving his feet) wheras the Texas defender didn't this one was just barely a penalty vs the other which just barely wasn't
@vaguebeing1475Ай бұрын
It's targeting by rule, but the tough thing is if the QB doesn't crouch in reaction then it's just a hit to the body. Only option is to go even lower, but then it can effect your ability to make a tackle too.
@davidlamb12345Ай бұрын
then if you go lower, the QB turned his body into the path, so it would definitely be targeting even if into the chest. If he goes further to the side, the QB side-steps him. no-win situation for the DB.
@heidimarkАй бұрын
Exactly my thought. At the moment the DB began his tackle, the QB began to crouch and turn his helmet. It would have initially been a clean hit, but by the time contact was made the QB's helmet was low enough to receive contact. If the DB launched any lower, he could have hit the QB in the knees and be called for that.
@ClaudiaAnn-uk5dvАй бұрын
You tackle more from your shoulder and the side. He was 100% wrong for this tackle
@JosephKalsonАй бұрын
He led with his helmet, regardless if the QB crouched. Poor coaching
@runnerfigАй бұрын
Crouch??? I',m sorry. The MAYBE 2 inches his body lowered did not affect that hit at all
@jameswright-tk5izАй бұрын
That was less violent than the Clowny hit against Michigan in that bowl game.
@GetBetterGolfАй бұрын
That clowny hit was awesome, and he got the ball back. Savage
@toogyman24 күн бұрын
@@GetBetterGolf Steve Matai hit on Dave Tyrell !
@coastersandcosplays24 күн бұрын
How is this targeting but the quarterfinal call isn't? Theyre both defenseless.....
@dmaxbravo_956223 күн бұрын
He lead with the helmet
@prestongraham895723 күн бұрын
@dmaxbravo_9562 so was the one in the peach bowl
@dmaxbravo_956223 күн бұрын
@prestongraham8957 no he made a sound tackle
@prestongraham895723 күн бұрын
@dmaxbravo_9562 go watch any replay of it. Even other officials say it was a miss call. Only ut fans say different.
@bca_editzАй бұрын
fnaf jumpscare ahh tackle 💀🙏
@studiomg3212Ай бұрын
foxy lookin ahh
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
That did not land like you think it did 😂
@WhodatandamericasteamАй бұрын
@@jonborton1295I think it did!
@FreezerdaBlueАй бұрын
Thought it was funny too, you ain't him Jon
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
@Whodatandamericasteam I think you forgot cowboys fans aren’t allowed to have opinions 🤫
@michaelbarnhart2593Ай бұрын
Network commentators: "This is a terrible target hit that should not happen." Meanwhile, let's show the replay the hit a half-dozen times... Highlight reel!
@thurmanwilliams7961Ай бұрын
What is the defender supposed to do when the QB lowers himself to brace for the hit??? To me this looked like a good hit.
@bobblaszczak7972Ай бұрын
Agreed. Watching this, the defender is attempting to make the tackle exactly as it is taught. Head up, put your face on the numbers and wrap up. If QB does not dip ever so slightly, then this is a picture perfect tackle.
@TurnerFunАй бұрын
I saw helmet to helmet
@raiderdavemusicАй бұрын
They used to say as long as you see what you are hitting helmet collisions don't matter. He had his head up... But modern dainty rules say it's bad... I like all the overhyped bs with medics everywhere like dude got shot in NAM, meanwhile MFS in ONE CHAMPIONSHIP and the UFC gets nailed 10 times harder than that hit, knocked the fuck out and all they get is a corner man slapping them on the face to wake up. That's because football has allowed insurance companies to dictate the rules and the boot lickers just go along with it. Modern football is soft cake. I never regretted moving right into Mui Thai and MMA when I stopped playing. It's a real sport where you can still knock the shit out of someone, unlike "foosball"
@NickySkinzАй бұрын
@TurnerFun nope, you didn’t
@tacticalmattfoleyАй бұрын
I've noticed anytime a players head rocks back like the hit show above we've gotten a targeting call. Same thing happened in a Miami game earlier this year.....
@kdog2646Ай бұрын
No, the uga gt game didn't can it.
@TrzntxnАй бұрын
Didn’t get called Miami v Cal.. Cal would’ve won
@jameso2260Ай бұрын
The Center and the RG went to block the same guy which left a huge gap for the DB to get to the QB. I’d be pissed if I was the QB.
@fnb5599Ай бұрын
IMO clean hit, the guy had a free 10yrd unimpeded sprint so yeah that is gonna be a massive hit but he didnt lead the hit with the crown of the helmet, his facemask made contact right under the ISU QB's chin. It was a really big hit that is scary but that is what happens when you let a guy take a 10 yrd charge untouched to your QB....maybe the line should block?? "targeting" now is just "someone got laid out"
@gtf5392Ай бұрын
I agree.
@claypennington602Ай бұрын
Agreed. I didn’t see crown of the Helmet and I didn’t see him launch himself. Even by the new rules that’s not targeting, just a great hit. They have done too much to protect the QB IMO. They call this targeting because it’s forceful contact to the head or neck area, well they linemen for both teams and the TEs and the RBs and have all been slamming themselves into eachother all game but nobody cares. This QB got tackled hard, and sometimes that happens. Ruling like this, and the slide rules, make it so insanely difficult to actually “play football” when the QB has the ball
@jimmyjack6393Ай бұрын
His facemask did hit right under the qb chin, but the forehead of his helmet hit directly into the qb facemask. That's forcible contact to the head. Targeting
@johntempleton3560Ай бұрын
@@jimmyjack6393very agreed
@psychlops924Ай бұрын
Nah helmet to helmet on a defenseless player needs to be out of the game.
@mikey-nm3odАй бұрын
Literal perfect form tackle. Not the defenders fault he had a clean shot at a stationary QB and nailed him. Puts his facemask is the QBs chest as has been taught for decades. Pitiful you can get ejected for making big hits. People have forgotten that targeting calls were just as much about protecting defenders from breaking their necks. If you dont lower the crown of the helmet it shouldnt be targeting.
@MengGuoZhouАй бұрын
"his facemask is the QBs" Oudabe a liberal for lying that much
@DASamX5453Ай бұрын
He drove his head into his helmet all the way down to the ground....hardly perfect 🙄🙄🙄
@diegobarboza3615Ай бұрын
@@DASamX5453Tell you don't know the rules without telling me. The QB dropped his level. That's the QB's fault and he got fucked up.
@JamesStamp-f8uАй бұрын
You’re so dumb that’s obviously targeting. It’s the right call it was clearly a disqualification
@slipinsliderАй бұрын
The QB bent into it @@DASamX5453
@jl-rt5itАй бұрын
If you look at the side angle camera, the QB crouched and bent his knees right before contact. No time for the tackler to adjust.
@calvinhobbes6118Ай бұрын
Which is why they are taught to lead with the shoulder and NOT the head. This was clear Targeting.
@jl-rt5itАй бұрын
@ nope
@Bullrider33OutdoorsАй бұрын
I Agree Definitely A Great Tackle I'm So Sick Of Football Beijg Soft Dont Like Getting Tackled Or Risk Injuries Dont Play Period
@anothergamingchannel2656Ай бұрын
Exactly what I'm saying! His legs were spread making him already shorter, and instead of standing up like what was probably expected, he ducked to brace forbthe tackle lowering his head directly in the path of his helmet. It's ridiculous to call it when it's an accident. It's bound to happen from time to time. That's just the way it is. Shouldn't punish players for honest accidents that just come with the territory of playing a contact sport. Now when it's clearly intentional, then I see why that's not cool. But this guy just ducked at the wrong time and tackler couldn't alter his course at that point
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@calvinhobbes6118 When were you taught that?? I only played one year, but I remember in Middle School, that when we were tackling head on, you never go to tackle with your shoulder, because that’s how you miss a tackle. You tackle face up so there’s no chance to miss, which is exactly what he did (this is different than spearing, since the crown is not used, which would have made the hit much more dangerous for everyone involved)
@caseyclark-s1o21 күн бұрын
This is very similar to texas ASU game....like very similar....facemasks hit....but ASU had a defensless wr....so idk
@brandoncoates952Ай бұрын
I remember when that hit right there was a great hard hit tackle.
@islahartel9304Ай бұрын
But the players don’t. With all that brain trauma, they don’t remember much at all I hear. That’s why the rule is for their safety, not yours.
@lugnut1827Ай бұрын
The play is a thing of art. It's calls like this that make me Start to hate football and what it's becoming
@launchbase4944Ай бұрын
I don't see how anyone can actually say that isn't targeting sorry
@itsnotokgolfАй бұрын
what the fuck is he supposed to do, invite him for crumpets and tea and politely ask him to fall to the ground like a dainty butterfly? GTFO
@BryanW.Ай бұрын
This was a clean tackle. Football is (was) a contact sport.
@Gulag00Ай бұрын
Every sack should be targeting then
@Mikey-i5qАй бұрын
What a stupid weak comment... This is FOOTBALL what was he supposed to do run up there tickle him with a feather
@GregperkinsyoАй бұрын
That ain’t targeting. That’s football. Shoutout to that qb he held that ball! Shoutout to that db nice blitz!!! WOOOO
@Tiber2017Ай бұрын
QB did a good job holding onto the ball!
@haydenstapleton9373Ай бұрын
I think what a lot of people are missing is the fact the qb didn't even look at that half of the field. Bro was still reading his reads from left to right. If he looked he possibly could've one evaded the tackle are just fall and the defender would've just flown right over him.
@calvinhobbes6118Ай бұрын
No, nobody is missing anything. Everything you just said means absolutely nothing to the call of Targeting, which was correct, according to the letter of the rule.
@GFitness214Ай бұрын
Clean hit. Football needs this back. Sick of these weak targeting calls.
@torijones9992Ай бұрын
The league is too soft!!! Makes me sick!!!
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@GFitness214 I’m a big player safety fan, and have been a big fan of seeing spearing and other nasty hits banned. However this was literally perfect form, exactly how I was taught to tackle in middle school. They are killing football, which is something I never thought I’d say
@bigfish8473Ай бұрын
That was a perfect tackle. Head up, warpped up, and run through him. Thats hit was text book. Suck a dad call.
@zaq55Ай бұрын
Rocco got rocked.
@quentincampbell612Ай бұрын
Yo Rocco. That LB hit you like he was Apollo Creed,Clubber Lang and Ivan Drago combined.
@OlshanmandfwАй бұрын
This used to be a GR AT hit. "Forcible contact"? Every play in football has forcible contact.
@0nlyRemainingАй бұрын
Yes, forcible contact to the head or neck area, and led with his helmet. I don't think it was that bad of a hit, but that's what they call.
@ArlenPierceАй бұрын
The timing on him turning his head right into the hit is crazy
@jonnybaze7449Ай бұрын
What? Textbook. Absolutely beautiful tackle. Nothing there was against any rule. Not even questionable
@America1st2128 күн бұрын
Too many concussions jonny?
@jonnybaze744928 күн бұрын
@ no, why?
@America1st2128 күн бұрын
@ my point exactly
@jonnybaze744928 күн бұрын
@@America1st21 great rebuttal lol
@ImTheCrewАй бұрын
I guess I’m getting old, looks like a great tackle to me . 🤷♂️
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
This was a flag 15 years ago buddy
@mikey-nm3odАй бұрын
@@jonborton1295 nope
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
@@mikey-nm3od prove me wrong
@joshuaburba1048Ай бұрын
You're not getting old, it WAS a great tackle.
@McFarkleАй бұрын
Seriously. I’ve always been the guy that got called soft for liking rules that protect players, because I genuinely dislike watching guys get brain damage on live tv. But like, that’s a perfect form tackle. Don’t punish the defender for the OL leaving the QB completely vulnerable, or for the QB for ducking down into the hit.
@3rdwardbeatzАй бұрын
Why didn’t anybody give credit to the quarterback for not fumbling? 😂
@TrzntxnАй бұрын
Targeting penalties are terribly inconsistent and arbitrary. Now dude has to miss the first half of a game he worked his ass off to make all because of a big hit.
@lifestylelove2651Ай бұрын
If you look at it ,,,it was not targeting the reason becuase the offensive player droped lower when he seen him coming late and the defender was always in hit mode and could change at all
@Kjack2023Ай бұрын
Yea, you can’t hit too hard in football anymore. That was a solid hit.
@conorhiggs847Ай бұрын
What ncaa should do is void the targeting if the offensive player crouches to brace for impact
@Jiang-Ай бұрын
Don’t crouch right before you’re being sacked if you’re not prepared to get your bell rung
@jl-rt5itАй бұрын
right?? tackler had no time to adjust, he was already in motion.
@johnglace6710Ай бұрын
@@jl-rt5it No, not right. Lol. You can't launch at someone's head. Ever. In ANY sport. There isn't a player alive who doesn't know this.
@TDotRedemptionАй бұрын
@@johnglace6710 He didn't launch at someone's head. He launched to the chest, but the QB by instinct crouched over to protect himself from impact.
@calvinhobbes6118Ай бұрын
You mean dont have a natural reaction to turning and seeing someone bearing down at you full speed and less than 3 feet away? Good call, please tell me all of your sportsball stories, Mr. SuperAthlete.
@jl-rt5itАй бұрын
@ happens all the time
@TyrillCelestineАй бұрын
Wait I’m so confused how are you supposed to sack a qb now?
@greysongladney4403Ай бұрын
What is he supposed to do? Rock him to sleep?
@AndrewH1220Ай бұрын
maybe not launch and just tackle him
@Panafrocanam2Ай бұрын
They subjectively call these... That's the problem dumb rule to begin with. U have clowns here calling that targeting
@muleskinner4495Ай бұрын
From peewee football through college, text book tackling used to be wrapping up with your face in his chest, not launching. He clearly launched and his intent seemed to be clear. Just my observation
@jb8935Ай бұрын
Just wrap him up? Dont spear?
@johntempleton3560Ай бұрын
@@jb8935agreed, but some fans want football to resemble a Gladiator movie to be entertained
@markdonahueАй бұрын
The QB wasn't a defenseless player because he wasn't throwing the ball, so head to head contact shouldn't matter, right?
@bones6554Ай бұрын
Text book tackle to me. Head up, wrapped up and drove through the contact. This isn't "flag football" yet.
@KarlWenzel-wy8uhАй бұрын
Textbook targeting that is.
@josephbozzi6179Ай бұрын
@@bones6554 "Textbook" would have been Cooper DeJean on King Henry pile drive...not what we saw here
@Chris_1129Ай бұрын
@@KarlWenzel-wy8uhWrong
@bassandtrebleclefАй бұрын
Get your eyes checked.
@mizer9510Ай бұрын
It will be flag football eventually because of the bogus concussion paranoia they want everybody to believe
@boataxe4605Ай бұрын
So the quarterback is no longer a target for the defense? I always thought that “targeting”an offensive player it was the job of the defensive player.
@brianrufh3684Ай бұрын
Defenseless? How? Because he didn't look at him? He literally hit him in the chest and face! Can't blame the defender for being good at his job.
@00ghostcobraАй бұрын
You are exactly right.. The flag was thrown because the QB got hurt... They are going to wind up ruining the game like this.
@KarlWenzel-wy8uhАй бұрын
He aimed at the head. That’s textbook targetting
@johntempleton3560Ай бұрын
since he was coming in almost blind, the defender could have easily wrapped tackled the QB, instead of "targeting" the upper torso which led to the helmet on helmet contact. hence the penalty. remember, they're human beings out there, not crash test dummies
@mikepalmer1971Ай бұрын
The face is part of the head genius.
@AnthonyLagunas-yv6brАй бұрын
He left his feet and launched at him.
@anthonyfarley796Ай бұрын
What an amazing hit clean and made a statement not targeting
@Jleed989Ай бұрын
How else is he supposed to tackle him and stop the pass?
@Jokester1338Ай бұрын
How this was targeting and the Georgia one wasn't is ludacris
@imdbtruthАй бұрын
I hope the QB is okay... I don't think the defender wanted to injure the guy, he just wanted to nail the hell out of him, but it was a dangerous play and the targeting call is correct.
@torijones9992Ай бұрын
The QB is fine! He’s just soft!!! Ask Josh Allen
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@imdbtruth QB is fine, and defenders are supposed to make big hits. There are times where they employ illegal forms to do so, but this isn’t one of them. Head up wrap up tackle, perfect form, idiotic penalty
@thefoundationpodcast7238Ай бұрын
What was he supposed to do in that situation??? That's on the o-line/coaching for not picking up defender.
@kylechoate5425Ай бұрын
Not targeting. Block better or throw faster. Badass sack.
@AndrewH1220Ай бұрын
It is targeting lol
@Mikey-i5qАй бұрын
@@AndrewH1220 you are everywhere comments like this show that you are weak... Probably voted for Kamala get your tickle feather out.... What a bum I feel sorry how soft you are
@drewc8534Ай бұрын
Agreed. Not an AZ State fan, but that call was total BS. Clean hit and the QB crouched down. That's why their helmets collided.
@miami3863Ай бұрын
@@drewc8534QB’s helmet probably could’ve been on tighter. AND I doubt he had a mouthpiece in like most qbs don’t.
@00ghostcobraАй бұрын
@@AndrewH1220 But I don't see how it is targeting if the guy doesn't lead with the crown of the helmet, which the announcer said he didn't.
@CenTexTomАй бұрын
That was a pretty loud hit...heard it two rows up in Jerry World...yes, Simmons should have been thrown out but missing another half is a little too much...
@joeym5243Ай бұрын
I swear unless theyre straight up tackling someone standing on the sidelines there will always be people complaining about a targeting penalty and how we shoud just play two hand touch. Not like the old days anymore.
@Boxscot49Ай бұрын
Literally no person is complaining that they should play two hand touch.
@joeym5243Ай бұрын
@Boxscot49 there are literally comments on this video saying that
@bassandtrebleclefАй бұрын
"back in my day" as he pulls up his suspenders.
@BestNflMemesАй бұрын
Can touch his legs tho so how you take him down add a wrap up rule then ridiculous
@rodrickholland5708Ай бұрын
Clean hit all day. Ray Lewis who? Are we playing football or what?
@thefourhorsemen91Ай бұрын
Im glad he's out of the first half of the next game. That was a bad hit. The fact that the whole team celebrated was sick.
@peteyoung3124Ай бұрын
You gotta blame the offensive line on that one. 10 yd of unobstructed path directly at the QB? Where the hell was any coverage? And how did the QB not see it coming?
@Dwdrummer1995Ай бұрын
They showed blitz from the other side, which is what the offensive line was paying attention to. Then post snap, they dropped into coverage and sent the safety (that wasn’t up to the line showing blitz) from the other side.
@pablolara2812Ай бұрын
Man that targeting rule they need to get rid of it!! Let them play that’s the guys job deliver that hit!!
@katherineknapp4370Ай бұрын
I'm so thankful the ISU player is ok.
@jimpaul3811Ай бұрын
They’ve made it so hard to play Defense these days.
@HomedepotorangeАй бұрын
This is literally what I want to see when I watch football. If you get the chance to tackle the QB you make sure they never forget. Make it hurt, its defense 101
@arttrumbo9496Ай бұрын
Thats how it used to be played. Football has changed for the worse.
@HomedepotorangeАй бұрын
@@arttrumbo9496sometimes you just need to go watch a 70s Raiders compilation
@logicalrationalfishing7481Ай бұрын
15 years ago this would have been a highlight on Sportscenter. Also, what SHOULD he have done? Slowed down and gently tackled him?
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@logicalrationalfishing7481 Should still be a highlight hit today, that was a perfect form tackle based on how they teach you at every level
@WeLuv9x5Ай бұрын
That was a clean hit!
@AndrewH1220Ай бұрын
Learn ball bro
@danielhurley2894Ай бұрын
Clean hit my ass. You can't do that to a Quarterback who is just standing there. You hit him in the upper body with YOUR body - - not helmet to face.
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@danielhurley2894 No, you are taught to hit him by putting your facemask/forehead into his chest. Thats exactly what happened, and if you want to say the contact was slightly high, take it up with the QB that dropped into a full squat moments before the hit so that the defender couldn’t adjust
@danielhurley2894Ай бұрын
@@McFarkle Here is what the experts say (I looked it up). "No, football players are taught to avoid using their head when tackling: Keep head up. Players are taught to keep their heads up and eyes on their target, a technique known as "see what you hit". Use shoulders. Players are taught to use their shoulders as the initial point of contact. Avoid leading with the head. Players are taught to avoid leading with their helmet, which can lead to concussions or spinal injuries."
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@danielhurley2894 One of the first pictures when you google “head up tackles” shows that difference between leading with the head and head up. Both have contact with the helmet because it does get in the way, but like the video, that contact is incidental in the clean case, and not malicious. The “clean hit” in the picture has nearly identical form to the video, the only reason the video looks bad is because the hit was just hard (and because the QB ducked down to make the contact happen higher than the defender intended)
@BarbellThorАй бұрын
That's tough. QB turns INTO the hit, and the DB didn't lead with the crown. It fits the definition, but there was no intent.
@perserverance333Ай бұрын
These defenders should know by now to hit lower in these situations. All he had to do was get lower in the QBs mid area.
@Bossave43Ай бұрын
The QB crouches half a second before he’s hit, he he stays standing it’s a hit to the chest. But with the defender running full speeds it’s to late for him to adjust. You pretty much have to aim for a leg tackle to always avoid a penalty.
@cyclonesfan9169Ай бұрын
@@Bossave43that is stupid. The QB’s head dropped about 3 inches. It was a hit to the head no matter what. I also hate the calls where the runner drops his head and then the defender hits it, but this was not one of those. This would have been very easy for the defender to drill the QB in the mid-section and maybe even knock the ball loose. But now the dumbass has to sit out the 1st half of the playoff game.
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@cyclonesfan9169 The helmet contact as it was was mostly incidental, with the main contact being in the chest. Three inches was well enough to change that hit, and frankly the QB went to a full squat which means he dropped much more than 3 inches
@cyclonesfan9169Ай бұрын
@ just proves people believe what they want to believe. Look at the QB a tenth of a second before he sees the guy coming at him and when he gets hit, there is hardly any movement. Maybe 3 inches and that might be generous.
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@cyclonesfan9169 Okay “cyclones fan”, I’m sure you’re super unbiased. And again, the hit wasn’t even illegal as is, 3 inches would have made it so that it wasn’t even looked at. Guy got hit hard by a completely legal hit because the OL didn’t block
@decline2stateАй бұрын
Looked like a pretty good call. The ASU coach should have nothing to complain about.
@AndrewPick6Ай бұрын
idk how anyone can say that's not targeting. is that coach blind
@chazrooks4681Ай бұрын
The QB dipped and stepped into the hit. A person with the ball CANNOT be a defenseless player. They LITERALLY have the ball and the point is to hit the person with the ball.
@thesupervisor3270Ай бұрын
It’s football dork
@joshmiller6421Ай бұрын
@@chazrooks4681 yes, they absolutely can be lol try to learn the rules. Clear, easy targeting call
@ferociousfil5747Ай бұрын
Look up targeting rules. No crown, no launching = no targeting.
@philip-d5wАй бұрын
35 point lead and u get urself kicked out for the playoffs for drilling the QB in the face.... STUPID!!!
@keithkarner3294Ай бұрын
When they are trying to get rid of head injuries in football, and you pop up after a headshot and do the “put him to sleep” motion with your hands under your head…..what the $&!? Do you think they are going to call?
@stephenfulbright9772Ай бұрын
I think the ejection/suspension mandate should be reviewed.
@WilliePete_GamingАй бұрын
The Gunner Stockton hit should’ve been targeting then, right?
@davidcraig9233Ай бұрын
That’s a clean hit. Maybe Iowa St should have tried blocking him.
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
You don’t know ball
@johnb.2006Ай бұрын
@@jonborton1295you don't either. Why don't you try buckling your chinstrap? Come play in my era. You'd be crying buckets of tears. Soft.
@BWCA12345Ай бұрын
Not in today’s game. It’s a good call.
@redowl2291Ай бұрын
Go back to pickleball
@AndrewH1220Ай бұрын
I recommended you read the targeting rule
@murphyc15Ай бұрын
While the QB did lower into it unintentionally, I still think he would've hit him in the helmet and it still would've been ruled targeting
@td811Ай бұрын
The rules official for the broadcast actually said the QB who is a football player in full pads and helmet , who received the snap, who has the ball and is looking to pass it was a defenseless player. Give me a friggin break.
@torijones9992Ай бұрын
Today’s game is soft!!! And they want to get paid as college players?! Give me a break!
@williamwinston9671Ай бұрын
They need to get rid of that targeting rule.
@MẽdũsæåАй бұрын
Football is lame now. South Park nailed it.
@torijones9992Ай бұрын
Soft ass players nowadays. This new generation is soft!!! I hate it!
@KrystalAriАй бұрын
TBI and CTE is real. It's crazy how people act like this sport isn't going to cause early brain disease in MOST of the players. It is LAME and that's great. You want hardcore? Join the Army
@ccampbell02ytАй бұрын
If Southpark takes a position, it's probably wrong lol
@harryhanz1690Ай бұрын
@torijones9992 Because trying to keep people from permanent brain damage is for p***ies.
@AzzKicker-bz1cbАй бұрын
@@KrystalAri There are a multitude of example cases where CTE is at least a contributing factor in guys murdering their families and then themselves, going on unexplained tirades where some end up with at least one fatality or more and the guaranteed fatality is 99% the person suffering from CTE! The Chris Benoit from WCW/WWF/WWE murder/suicide is still being investigated and discussed as a possible CTE situation. It’s not that the players are getting softer or the rules getting more complicated, it’s just that these players are operating on a much higher level of performance than players in the 70’s when hits like that were celebrated and put on highlight reels!
@gunwrencher1566Ай бұрын
How did this not get called on the field?
@boataxe4605Ай бұрын
Because the refs realized that it was a great football play because football is supposed to be a rough damn game.
@BroncosCountry58Ай бұрын
Not a dirty play but a dangerous play
@riff2072Ай бұрын
It was clearly a dirty play. The hit with the helmet to the head, the hit with the helmet to the head on the ground and the multiple "take a nap" pose. Number 7 was pleased with that he sent the QB knocked out and celebrated it.
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@riff2072 Didn’t knock him out, and he didn’t duck his head. You are taught to tackle face forward in that situation, which is exactly what he did. Helmet to helmet contact is fine if it’s incidental, and the only reason it occurred in the first place is because the QB dropped into a full squat moments before the hit.
@DK412724Ай бұрын
QB also saw him coming so at least he had a split second to brace himself
@ItsjustlikemagicАй бұрын
If that’s targeting then they need to get rid of tackling and just play 2 hand touch football. The defender’s momentum took him into the head area. It was just a good aggressive play, no malicious intent!
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
The defenders momentum my ass 😂 he can go a hair lower with that momentum. If you can’t see that was malicious then you’re blind or ignorant. The most intentional pile drive ever
@AypherАй бұрын
I swear officer I didn’t hit my wife my momentum carried me into her!!
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
@@Aypher literally 😂 we might need to check on this guys wife and make sure she’s not in a dangerous situation
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
@@Itsjustlikemagic you’re a weird guy
@joeym5243Ай бұрын
If you're playing college ball then you can easily make the play without ramming your helmet right into his face, no excuses. That DB was looking to rock the QB as bad as he could
@ScottdavilleАй бұрын
They should play flag football 🤐
@Tom67SlickАй бұрын
He had every opportunity to go for the ball, do a spear style hit to the arm midsection area, use the shoulder and form tackle, but instead went high for a knockout hit, clear penalty
@bobbybushwhackerАй бұрын
The point is it shouldn't be a penalty. There shouldn't be a flag just because a hit looks scary. If you dont want to get hit then don't play
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@Tom67Slick If he speared, that would be a penalty, but he kept his head up and hit him in the chest, exactly how it’s taught on all levels. Now it was a bit high, and there was some *incidental* helmet to helmet contact, but that’s because the QB ducked moments before the hit, and it really wasn’t enough to warrant targeting anyways.
@Tom67SlickАй бұрын
@@McFarkle i mean spear like wwe style shoulder to midsection
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@Tom67Slick That’s how you miss a tackle, you would have to turn your body to do that, and doing so would give the QB the ability to easily evade the tackle
@andrewbaker4893Ай бұрын
Ridiculous bro tbh. Literally they're ruining the game right in front of our eyes.
@FedUpVetАй бұрын
All I see is one hell of a defensive play, and it's his offensive lines job to idk block.
@jameskamlowsky9906Ай бұрын
Get the hell rid of targeting. Terrible rule. Especially the ejection part.
@bruhbruhhh6592Ай бұрын
I know it's the rule, and this was against the rules, but holy crap do I hate this rule. Targeting was for defenseless recievers. This is ridiculous.
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
This is the most obvious form of targeting and you’re still bitching
@ghost2112_fpvАй бұрын
@@jonborton1295Are you THAT soft to think an alternate opinion is considered “bitching”?
@mauldothelastcrafter8194Ай бұрын
@@jonborton1295 Because it's not targeting. In no world is that QB defenseless. Unless every QB is defenseless now. Alright guys, according to JonBon here, every tackle on the QB is targeting now. It's over. He's figured it out.
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
@ he made complete helmet contact, and put all his weight into landing on the guys head. You are so mentally slow I feel bad for embarrassing you publicly… I’d never want to humiliate a special needs person but here you are making it easy 😂😂😂🤫
@ferociousfil5747Ай бұрын
Not for defenceless receivers. Targeting was put in place to protect the hitting player from getting his neck broken. You want to call roughing the passer…ok…but tired of refs using this rule every time there is a high contact and a hard hit.
@StevenSprungerАй бұрын
It is sad what has happened to football over the last decade.
@mrbiggg66Ай бұрын
Where is the play that the illegal hit occurs?
@AndrewH1220Ай бұрын
Are you blind?
@lilmari528Ай бұрын
@@AndrewH1220no you’re just soft
@AndrewH1220Ай бұрын
@@lilmari528 How?
@lilmari528Ай бұрын
@@AndrewH1220 because its a clean text book hit… idk what else you want the kid to do
@zrogarcia5590Ай бұрын
Dude still gets up and taunts the QB after that dirty hit. He deserves that ejection
@bobweber4913Ай бұрын
Stupid play when you are up 35 in the 4th quarter. Now your gone for the first half of your teams most important game.
@TTundragrizzlyАй бұрын
It wasn’t targeting. Good solid tackle
@bassandtrebleclefАй бұрын
@@TTundragrizzlyyour opinion doesn't matter.
@GraveMemoriesАй бұрын
@bassandtrebleclef it mattered to you, otherwise you wouldnt reply with nonsense Add to the conversation or bugger off
@td811Ай бұрын
@@bassandtrebleclefyour opinion matters even less
@TTundragrizzlyАй бұрын
@@bassandtrebleclef you must either be blind or just ignorant of the game… Did you not see the QB duck his head down into the hit? It WAS a good tackle.
@sandmangti7040Ай бұрын
Sad the Coaches do not worry about possible injury. He felt it should have not been a penalty. No wonder it never improves.
@Bullets632Ай бұрын
Forceable contact. It's football, you have to contact them in order to play lol.
@homerohernandez7982Ай бұрын
Very nice form tackle.
@evanmurpheyАй бұрын
People complaining about a rough hit like college football isn’t a inherently violent sport 💀💀💀 it’s literally football, out here crying like the kid isn’t gonna end up with CTE anyways
@jonborton1295Ай бұрын
Nice rage bait
@swivk4917Ай бұрын
Sadly I don’t think this is Ragebait, dude is serious.
@bobbybushwhackerАй бұрын
That was such an awesome hit, i am so sad that lawyers started suing the leagues and ruining the game. Lawyer's ruin everything
@fiat2496Ай бұрын
ANyone that is in support of "targeting' as a penalty has never played the game beyond high school. There is no safe way to run into someone full speed without risking injury. This penalty has destroyed the game and not made it ANY safer.
@chazrooks4681Ай бұрын
Lame you never played and they moved the rules over the last 10 years for "player safety"
@fiat2496Ай бұрын
@@chazrooks4681 Low IQ response
@whatsup3270Ай бұрын
@@chazrooks4681 That was a text book how to tackle demo for most of football.
@Biggdoom344Ай бұрын
If they had this rule when I played half my team would be ejected every week SMH. Any hard hit nowadays is targeting college or pro. Glorified Flag football 😮
@jedediahrice8694Ай бұрын
Wait so a big hit in a full contact sport is bad now. Why let them tackle at all.
@mikeklinkowski4228Ай бұрын
Not targeting.. First, Offensive line man should have not missed his block, second, quarterback dropped his head at the last second to make it a head to head contact... Of course, the reporters know all!
@Panafrocanam2Ай бұрын
Bingo....
@calvinhobbes6118Ай бұрын
Whether someone missed a block or not has ZERO BEARING on whether a hit is Targeting or not. I swear, public schools have not taught people how to think critically.
@mikeklinkowski4228Ай бұрын
@@calvinhobbes6118 Disagree.. Aspect of the targeting call is the speed of the hit.. I swear public schools have ZERO BEARING on whether the hit is Targeting or not!
@McFarkleАй бұрын
@@calvinhobbes6118 It doesn’t, the form does. He had perfect form, therefore not targeting. However missing the block meant the defender had tons of momentum, which meant the hit was always going to be hard, and that’s the only reason this play was even looked at (because again, perfect form)
@ryanthunderhammer9970Ай бұрын
Why are these kids still targeting the head when tackling?