Arizona State DB gets ejected for targeting after big hit on Iowa State QB

[@pschighlights]

He will now have to miss the first half of the Sun Devils CFP game. Good call or nah?

[@yachtclub846]

He’s just tackling to the man, it’s human instinct to lower your head a little but it’s not intentional and it’s bs comin from an Penn State fan

[@h4xagon909]

good call, bad rule. it's football. it's a physical sport. no crown of the helmet, just ran into him full speed.

[@peterpeck-y9v]

nah call me an idiot but that is clean. Just a big hit

[@TheDailyDoseofSports_817]

@@pschighlights Fair sack

[@mikesul16]

It’s the only call. They either take this out of the game or let the game die. We know hits like this can and often do cause brain injuries. I didn’t see malicious intent here and it sucks for the kid, but they have to call that because they need to be consistent. This aspect of the game is too important to be anything less than that.

[@mrmcnastyy8742]

Announcer about creamed his pants when it happened and then ranted about how dirty it was lmao so fake

[@sixers77]

I mean it was way easier to see in slow motion that it was targeting

[@LukeJ-cq8ks]

I mean he literally called him a human missile that sounds like targeting to me

[@chazrooks4681]

He stepped into the hit and turned his body. The targeting call is pretty shit. You can see the QB dip and step into the hit​@sixers77

[@jonborton1295]

Ok quagmire

[@yuwish6320]

There are two announcers with different opinions.

[@GoldenBananaMan]

Joe forgot to actually care about the player then doubled back lmao

[@177kimo]

He didn't just go head hunting, he literally applied extra effort to ensure his own body weight impacted the quarterback upon hitting the field! Why can't players just tackle the opposition?

[@GoldenBananaMan]

@177kimo yeah it's called someone doesn't pay attention during practice and would rather try and give someone irreversible brain damage.

[@nealkeeton1514]

If football was safe, everyone would play it!!

[@poptartkilla3718]

I don’t think Joe realized it was helmet to helmet at first

[@deraelevans222]

Joe forgot he wasn’t at a boxing match 😂, but the QB dipped alil which led to H2H people to sensitive Football is a violent sport.

[@bigSean2325]

15 years ago, that’s SC top 10 and on all the highlight reels

[@mjjoe76]

Turns out there have been enough cases of CTE and other brain injuries to change expectations.

[@badgercdlyons]

Guys taking those hits from 15 years ago are now drooling on the floor while they try to figure out how to tie their shoes. And football noticed.

[@evanmurphey]

Yup, now it’s illegal!

[@LukeJ-cq8ks]

And?

[@ghost2112_fpv]

I noticed more and more players not even having their mouthguards in during plays then complain about targeting when they get hit too hard

[@gatorguysix7631]

This hit is miniscule compared to the hit UGA’s backup QB got while running vs. Texas yesterday. ROCKED. Knee bent back, eyes went up, stopped dead in his tracks….still not sure how he got up immediately

[@CYCLONEFAN88]

It’s worth considering the size difference of Rocco and Carson

[@zgarrett14]

It wasnt Carson itnwas Gunner Stockton​@CYCLONEFAN88

[@McFarkle]

@@gatorguysix7631 And they picked up the flag for targeting there… Insane because to me this hit was clearly a textbook wrap up tackle where the only contact near the head was because of the QB ducking into a full squat. While that hit was always an attempt to hit the QB as hard as physically possible by any means

[@chrisbalsamo968]

Kudos for hanging on to the ball

[@jefffisher1297]

Who failed to pick that guy up, somebody blew their assignment.

[@BleedHuskerRed2011]

I saw it live on tv and after the hit, this was my first thought.

[@vaguebeing1475]

It's targeting by rule, but the tough thing is if the QB doesn't crouch in reaction then it's just a hit to the body. Only option is to go even lower, but then it can effect your ability to make a tackle too.

[@davidlamb12345]

then if you go lower, the QB turned his body into the path, so it would definitely be targeting even if into the chest. If he goes further to the side, the QB side-steps him. no-win situation for the DB.

[@heidimark]

Exactly my thought. At the moment the DB began his tackle, the QB began to crouch and turn his helmet. It would have initially been a clean hit, but by the time contact was made the QB's helmet was low enough to receive contact. If the DB launched any lower, he could have hit the QB in the knees and be called for that.

[@ClaudiaAnn-uk5dv]

You tackle more from your shoulder and the side. He was 100% wrong for this tackle

[@JosephKalson]

He led with his helmet, regardless if the QB crouched. Poor coaching

[@runnerfig]

Crouch??? I',m sorry. The MAYBE 2 inches his body lowered did not affect that hit at all

[@TylerR-n2c]

Damn, he got trucked

[@thurmanwilliams7961]

What is the defender supposed to do when the QB lowers himself to brace for the hit??? To me this looked like a good hit.

[@bobblaszczak7972]

Agreed. Watching this, the defender is attempting to make the tackle exactly as it is taught. Head up, put your face on the numbers and wrap up. If QB does not dip ever so slightly, then this is a picture perfect tackle.

[@TurnerFun]

I saw helmet to helmet

[@raiderdavemusic]

They used to say as long as you see what you are hitting helmet collisions don't matter. He had his head up... But modern dainty rules say it's bad... I like all the overhyped bs with medics everywhere like dude got shot in NAM, meanwhile MFS in ONE CHAMPIONSHIP and the UFC gets nailed 10 times harder than that hit, knocked the fuck out and all they get is a corner man slapping them on the face to wake up. That's because football has allowed insurance companies to dictate the rules and the boot lickers just go along with it. Modern football is soft cake. I never regretted moving right into Mui Thai and MMA when I stopped playing. It's a real sport where you can still knock the shit out of someone, unlike "foosball"

[@NWBA14]

@TurnerFun nope, you didn’t

[@fnb5599]

IMO clean hit, the guy had a free 10yrd unimpeded sprint so yeah that is gonna be a massive hit but he didnt lead the hit with the crown of the helmet, his facemask made contact right under the ISU QB's chin. It was a really big hit that is scary but that is what happens when you let a guy take a 10 yrd charge untouched to your QB....maybe the line should block?? "targeting" now is just "someone got laid out"

[@gtf5392]

I agree.

[@claypennington602]

Agreed. I didn’t see crown of the Helmet and I didn’t see him launch himself. Even by the new rules that’s not targeting, just a great hit. They have done too much to protect the QB IMO. They call this targeting because it’s forceful contact to the head or neck area, well they linemen for both teams and the TEs and the RBs and have all been slamming themselves into eachother all game but nobody cares. This QB got tackled hard, and sometimes that happens. Ruling like this, and the slide rules, make it so insanely difficult to actually “play football” when the QB has the ball

[@jimmyjack6393]

His facemask did hit right under the qb chin, but the forehead of his helmet hit directly into the qb facemask. That's forcible contact to the head. Targeting

[@johntempleton3560]

​@@jimmyjack6393very agreed

[@psychlops924]

Nah helmet to helmet on a defenseless player needs to be out of the game.

[@mikey-nm3od]

Literal perfect form tackle. Not the defenders fault he had a clean shot at a stationary QB and nailed him. Puts his facemask is the QBs chest as has been taught for decades. Pitiful you can get ejected for making big hits. People have forgotten that targeting calls were just as much about protecting defenders from breaking their necks. If you dont lower the crown of the helmet it shouldnt be targeting.

[@MengGuoZhou]

"his facemask is the QBs" Oudabe a liberal for lying that much

[@DASamX5453]

He drove his head into his helmet all the way down to the ground....hardly perfect 🙄🙄🙄

[@diegobarboza3615]

​@@DASamX5453Tell you don't know the rules without telling me. The QB dropped his level. That's the QB's fault and he got fucked up.

[@JamesStamp-f8u]

You’re so dumb that’s obviously targeting. It’s the right call it was clearly a disqualification

[@slipinslider]

The QB bent into it ​@@DASamX5453

[@michaelbarnhart2593]

Network commentators: "This is a terrible target hit that should not happen." Meanwhile, let's show the replay the hit a half-dozen times... Highlight reel!

[@jameswright-tk5iz]

That was less violent than the Clowny hit against Michigan in that bowl game.

[@GetBetterGolf]

That clowny hit was awesome, and he got the ball back. Savage

[@bca_editz]

fnaf jumpscare ahh tackle 💀🙏

[@studiomg3212]

foxy lookin ahh

[@jonborton1295]

That did not land like you think it did 😂

[@Whodatandamericasteam]

@@jonborton1295I think it did!

[@FreezerdaBlue]

Thought it was funny too, you ain't him Jon

[@jonborton1295]

@Whodatandamericasteam I think you forgot cowboys fans aren’t allowed to have opinions 🤫

[@GFitness214]

Clean hit. Football needs this back. Sick of these weak targeting calls.

[@torijones9992]

The league is too soft!!! Makes me sick!!!

[@McFarkle]

@@GFitness214 I’m a big player safety fan, and have been a big fan of seeing spearing and other nasty hits banned. However this was literally perfect form, exactly how I was taught to tackle in middle school. They are killing football, which is something I never thought I’d say

[@lugnut1827]

The play is a thing of art. It's calls like this that make me Start to hate football and what it's becoming

[@launchbase4944]

I don't see how anyone can actually say that isn't targeting sorry

[@itsnotokgolf]

what the fuck is he supposed to do, invite him for crumpets and tea and politely ask him to fall to the ground like a dainty butterfly? GTFO

[@BryanW.]

This was a clean tackle. Football is (was) a contact sport.

[@Gulag00]

Every sack should be targeting then

[@Mikey-i5q]

What a stupid weak comment... This is FOOTBALL what was he supposed to do run up there tickle him with a feather

[@Gregperkinsyo]

That ain’t targeting. That’s football. Shoutout to that qb he held that ball! Shoutout to that db nice blitz!!! WOOOO

[@jameso2260]

The Center and the RG went to block the same guy which left a huge gap for the DB to get to the QB. I’d be pissed if I was the QB.

[@bones6554]

Text book tackle to me. Head up, wrapped up and drove through the contact. This isn't "flag football" yet.

[@KarlWenzel-wy8uh]

Textbook targeting that is.

[@josephbozzi6179]

@@bones6554 "Textbook" would have been Cooper DeJean on King Henry pile drive...not what we saw here

[@Chris_1129]

​@@KarlWenzel-wy8uhWrong

[@bassandtrebleclef]

Get your eyes checked.

[@mizer9510]

It will be flag football eventually because of the bogus concussion paranoia they want everybody to believe

[@ImTheCrew]

I guess I’m getting old, looks like a great tackle to me . 🤷‍♂️

[@jonborton1295]

This was a flag 15 years ago buddy

[@mikey-nm3od]

@@jonborton1295 nope

[@jonborton1295]

@@mikey-nm3od prove me wrong

[@joshuaburba1048]

You're not getting old, it WAS a great tackle.

[@McFarkle]

Seriously. I’ve always been the guy that got called soft for liking rules that protect players, because I genuinely dislike watching guys get brain damage on live tv. But like, that’s a perfect form tackle. Don’t punish the defender for the OL leaving the QB completely vulnerable, or for the QB for ducking down into the hit.

[@jl-rt5it]

If you look at the side angle camera, the QB crouched and bent his knees right before contact. No time for the tackler to adjust.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Which is why they are taught to lead with the shoulder and NOT the head. This was clear Targeting.

[@jl-rt5it]

@ nope

[@Bullrider33Outdoors]

I Agree Definitely A Great Tackle I'm So Sick Of Football Beijg Soft Dont Like Getting Tackled Or Risk Injuries Dont Play Period

[@anothergamingchannel2656]

Exactly what I'm saying! His legs were spread making him already shorter, and instead of standing up like what was probably expected, he ducked to brace forbthe tackle lowering his head directly in the path of his helmet. It's ridiculous to call it when it's an accident. It's bound to happen from time to time. That's just the way it is. Shouldn't punish players for honest accidents that just come with the territory of playing a contact sport. Now when it's clearly intentional, then I see why that's not cool. But this guy just ducked at the wrong time and tackler couldn't alter his course at that point

[@McFarkle]

@@calvinhobbes6118 When were you taught that?? I only played one year, but I remember in Middle School, that when we were tackling head on, you never go to tackle with your shoulder, because that’s how you miss a tackle. You tackle face up so there’s no chance to miss, which is exactly what he did (this is different than spearing, since the crown is not used, which would have made the hit much more dangerous for everyone involved)

[@jonnybaze7449]

What? Textbook. Absolutely beautiful tackle. Nothing there was against any rule. Not even questionable

[@tacticalmattfoley]

I've noticed anytime a players head rocks back like the hit show above we've gotten a targeting call. Same thing happened in a Miami game earlier this year.....

[@kdog2646]

No, the uga gt game didn't can it.

[@Trzntxn]

Didn’t get called Miami v Cal.. Cal would’ve won

[@brandoncoates952]

I remember when that hit right there was a great hard hit tackle.

[@islahartel9304]

But the players don’t. With all that brain trauma, they don’t remember much at all I hear. That’s why the rule is for their safety, not yours.

[@kylechoate5425]

Not targeting. Block better or throw faster. Badass sack.

[@AndrewH1220]

It is targeting lol

[@Mikey-i5q]

@@AndrewH1220 you are everywhere comments like this show that you are weak... Probably voted for Kamala get your tickle feather out.... What a bum I feel sorry how soft you are

[@drewc8534]

Agreed. Not an AZ State fan, but that call was total BS. Clean hit and the QB crouched down. That's why their helmets collided.

[@miami3863]

@@drewc8534QB’s helmet probably could’ve been on tighter. AND I doubt he had a mouthpiece in like most qbs don’t.

[@00ghostcobra]

@@AndrewH1220 But I don't see how it is targeting if the guy doesn't lead with the crown of the helmet, which the announcer said he didn't.

[@brianrufh3684]

Defenseless? How? Because he didn't look at him? He literally hit him in the chest and face! Can't blame the defender for being good at his job.

[@00ghostcobra]

You are exactly right.. The flag was thrown because the QB got hurt... They are going to wind up ruining the game like this.

[@KarlWenzel-wy8uh]

He aimed at the head. That’s textbook targetting

[@johntempleton3560]

since he was coming in almost blind, the defender could have easily wrapped tackled the QB, instead of "targeting" the upper torso which led to the helmet on helmet contact. hence the penalty. remember, they're human beings out there, not crash test dummies

[@mikepalmer1971]

The face is part of the head genius.

[@AnthonyLagunas-yv6br]

He left his feet and launched at him.

[@quentincampbell612]

Yo Rocco. That LB hit you like he was Apollo Creed,Clubber Lang and Ivan Drago combined.

[@Olshanmandfw]

This used to be a GR AT hit. "Forcible contact"? Every play in football has forcible contact.

[@0nlyRemaining]

Yes, forcible contact to the head or neck area, and led with his helmet. I don't think it was that bad of a hit, but that's what they call.

[@bigfish8473]

That was a perfect tackle. Head up, warpped up, and run through him. Thats hit was text book. Suck a dad call.

[@haydenstapleton9373]

I think what a lot of people are missing is the fact the qb didn't even look at that half of the field. Bro was still reading his reads from left to right. If he looked he possibly could've one evaded the tackle are just fall and the defender would've just flown right over him.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

No, nobody is missing anything. Everything you just said means absolutely nothing to the call of Targeting, which was correct, according to the letter of the rule.

[@Tiber2017]

QB did a good job holding onto the ball!

[@Jiang-]

Don’t crouch right before you’re being sacked if you’re not prepared to get your bell rung

[@jl-rt5it]

right?? tackler had no time to adjust, he was already in motion.

[@johnglace6710]

@@jl-rt5it No, not right. Lol. You can't launch at someone's head. Ever. In ANY sport. There isn't a player alive who doesn't know this.

[@TDotRedemption]

@@johnglace6710 He didn't launch at someone's head. He launched to the chest, but the QB by instinct crouched over to protect himself from impact.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

You mean dont have a natural reaction to turning and seeing someone bearing down at you full speed and less than 3 feet away? Good call, please tell me all of your sportsball stories, Mr. SuperAthlete.

[@jl-rt5it]

@ happens all the time

[@3rdwardbeatz]

Why didn’t anybody give credit to the quarterback for not fumbling? 😂

[@rodrickholland5708]

Clean hit all day. Ray Lewis who? Are we playing football or what?

[@WeLuv9x5]

That was a clean hit!

[@AndrewH1220]

Learn ball bro

[@danielhurley2894]

Clean hit my ass. You can't do that to a Quarterback who is just standing there. You hit him in the upper body with YOUR body - - not helmet to face.

[@McFarkle]

@@danielhurley2894 No, you are taught to hit him by putting your facemask/forehead into his chest. Thats exactly what happened, and if you want to say the contact was slightly high, take it up with the QB that dropped into a full squat moments before the hit so that the defender couldn’t adjust

[@danielhurley2894]

@@McFarkle Here is what the experts say (I looked it up). "No, football players are taught to avoid using their head when tackling: Keep head up. Players are taught to keep their heads up and eyes on their target, a technique known as "see what you hit". Use shoulders. Players are taught to use their shoulders as the initial point of contact. Avoid leading with the head. Players are taught to avoid leading with their helmet, which can lead to concussions or spinal injuries."

[@McFarkle]

@@danielhurley2894 One of the first pictures when you google “head up tackles” shows that difference between leading with the head and head up. Both have contact with the helmet because it does get in the way, but like the video, that contact is incidental in the clean case, and not malicious. The “clean hit” in the picture has nearly identical form to the video, the only reason the video looks bad is because the hit was just hard (and because the QB ducked down to make the contact happen higher than the defender intended)

[@Mẽdũsæå]

Football is lame now. South Park nailed it.

[@torijones9992]

Soft ass players nowadays. This new generation is soft!!! I hate it!

[@KrystalAri]

TBI and CTE is real. It's crazy how people act like this sport isn't going to cause early brain disease in MOST of the players. It is LAME and that's great. You want hardcore? Join the Army

[@ccampbell02yt]

If Southpark takes a position, it's probably wrong lol

[@harryhanz1690]

@torijones9992 Because trying to keep people from permanent brain damage is for p***ies.

[@AzzKicker-bz1cb]

@@KrystalAri There are a multitude of example cases where CTE is at least a contributing factor in guys murdering their families and then themselves, going on unexplained tirades where some end up with at least one fatality or more and the guaranteed fatality is 99% the person suffering from CTE! The Chris Benoit from WCW/WWF/WWE murder/suicide is still being investigated and discussed as a possible CTE situation. It’s not that the players are getting softer or the rules getting more complicated, it’s just that these players are operating on a much higher level of performance than players in the 70’s when hits like that were celebrated and put on highlight reels!

[@Kjack2023]

Yea, you can’t hit too hard in football anymore. That was a solid hit.

[@imdbtruth]

I hope the QB is okay... I don't think the defender wanted to injure the guy, he just wanted to nail the hell out of him, but it was a dangerous play and the targeting call is correct.

[@torijones9992]

The QB is fine! He’s just soft!!! Ask Josh Allen

[@McFarkle]

@@imdbtruth QB is fine, and defenders are supposed to make big hits. There are times where they employ illegal forms to do so, but this isn’t one of them. Head up wrap up tackle, perfect form, idiotic penalty

[@greysongladney4403]

What is he supposed to do? Rock him to sleep?

[@AndrewH1220]

maybe not launch and just tackle him

[@Panafrocanam2]

They subjectively call these... That's the problem dumb rule to begin with. U have clowns here calling that targeting

[@muleskinner4495]

From peewee football through college, text book tackling used to be wrapping up with your face in his chest, not launching. He clearly launched and his intent seemed to be clear. Just my observation

[@jb8935]

Just wrap him up? Dont spear?

[@johntempleton3560]

​@@jb8935agreed, but some fans want football to resemble a Gladiator movie to be entertained

[@ArlenPierce]

The timing on him turning his head right into the hit is crazy

[@Trzntxn]

Targeting penalties are terribly inconsistent and arbitrary. Now dude has to miss the first half of a game he worked his ass off to make all because of a big hit.

[@perserverance333]

These defenders should know by now to hit lower in these situations. All he had to do was get lower in the QBs mid area.

[@Bossave43]

The QB crouches half a second before he’s hit, he he stays standing it’s a hit to the chest. But with the defender running full speeds it’s to late for him to adjust. You pretty much have to aim for a leg tackle to always avoid a penalty.

[@cyclonesfan9169]

@@Bossave43that is stupid. The QB’s head dropped about 3 inches. It was a hit to the head no matter what. I also hate the calls where the runner drops his head and then the defender hits it, but this was not one of those. This would have been very easy for the defender to drill the QB in the mid-section and maybe even knock the ball loose. But now the dumbass has to sit out the 1st half of the playoff game.

[@McFarkle]

@@cyclonesfan9169 The helmet contact as it was was mostly incidental, with the main contact being in the chest. Three inches was well enough to change that hit, and frankly the QB went to a full squat which means he dropped much more than 3 inches

[@cyclonesfan9169]

@ just proves people believe what they want to believe. Look at the QB a tenth of a second before he sees the guy coming at him and when he gets hit, there is hardly any movement. Maybe 3 inches and that might be generous.

[@McFarkle]

@@cyclonesfan9169 Okay “cyclones fan”, I’m sure you’re super unbiased. And again, the hit wasn’t even illegal as is, 3 inches would have made it so that it wasn’t even looked at. Guy got hit hard by a completely legal hit because the OL didn’t block

[@bruhbruhhh6592]

I know it's the rule, and this was against the rules, but holy crap do I hate this rule. Targeting was for defenseless recievers. This is ridiculous.

[@jonborton1295]

This is the most obvious form of targeting and you’re still bitching

[@ghost2112_fpv]

@@jonborton1295Are you THAT soft to think an alternate opinion is considered “bitching”?

[@mauldothelastcrafter8194]

@@jonborton1295 Because it's not targeting. In no world is that QB defenseless. Unless every QB is defenseless now. Alright guys, according to JonBon here, every tackle on the QB is targeting now. It's over. He's figured it out.

[@jonborton1295]

@ he made complete helmet contact, and put all his weight into landing on the guys head. You are so mentally slow I feel bad for embarrassing you publicly… I’d never want to humiliate a special needs person but here you are making it easy 😂😂😂🤫

[@ferociousfil5747]

Not for defenceless receivers. Targeting was put in place to protect the hitting player from getting his neck broken. You want to call roughing the passer…ok…but tired of refs using this rule every time there is a high contact and a hard hit.

[@joeym5243]

I swear unless theyre straight up tackling someone standing on the sidelines there will always be people complaining about a targeting penalty and how we shoud just play two hand touch. Not like the old days anymore.

[@Boxscot49]

Literally no person is complaining that they should play two hand touch.

[@joeym5243]

@Boxscot49 there are literally comments on this video saying that

[@bassandtrebleclef]

"back in my day" as he pulls up his suspenders.

[@zaq55]

Rocco got rocked.

[@davidcraig9233]

That’s a clean hit. Maybe Iowa St should have tried blocking him.

[@jonborton1295]

You don’t know ball

[@johnb.2006]

​@@jonborton1295you don't either. Why don't you try buckling your chinstrap? Come play in my era. You'd be crying buckets of tears. Soft.

[@BWCA12345]

Not in today’s game. It’s a good call.

[@redowl2291]

Go back to pickleball

[@AndrewH1220]

I recommended you read the targeting rule

[@philip-d5w]

35 point lead and u get urself kicked out for the playoffs for drilling the QB in the face.... STUPID!!!

[@Itsjustlikemagic]

If that’s targeting then they need to get rid of tackling and just play 2 hand touch football. The defender’s momentum took him into the head area. It was just a good aggressive play, no malicious intent!

[@jonborton1295]

The defenders momentum my ass 😂 he can go a hair lower with that momentum. If you can’t see that was malicious then you’re blind or ignorant. The most intentional pile drive ever

[@Aypher]

I swear officer I didn’t hit my wife my momentum carried me into her!!

[@jonborton1295]

@@Aypher literally 😂 we might need to check on this guys wife and make sure she’s not in a dangerous situation

[@jonborton1295]

@@Itsjustlikemagic you’re a weird guy

[@joeym5243]

If you're playing college ball then you can easily make the play without ramming your helmet right into his face, no excuses. That DB was looking to rock the QB as bad as he could

[@Homedepotorange]

This is literally what I want to see when I watch football. If you get the chance to tackle the QB you make sure they never forget. Make it hurt, its defense 101

[@arttrumbo9496]

Thats how it used to be played. Football has changed for the worse.

[@Homedepotorange]

​@@arttrumbo9496sometimes you just need to go watch a 70s Raiders compilation

[@fiat2496]

ANyone that is in support of "targeting' as a penalty has never played the game beyond high school. There is no safe way to run into someone full speed without risking injury. This penalty has destroyed the game and not made it ANY safer.

[@chazrooks4681]

Lame you never played and they moved the rules over the last 10 years for "player safety"

[@fiat2496]

@@chazrooks4681 Low IQ response

[@whatsup3270]

@@chazrooks4681 That was a text book how to tackle demo for most of football.

[@Biggdoom344]

If they had this rule when I played half my team would be ejected every week SMH. Any hard hit nowadays is targeting college or pro. Glorified Flag football 😮

[@mikeklinkowski4228]

Not targeting.. First, Offensive line man should have not missed his block, second, quarterback dropped his head at the last second to make it a head to head contact... Of course, the reporters know all!

[@Panafrocanam2]

Bingo....

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Whether someone missed a block or not has ZERO BEARING on whether a hit is Targeting or not. I swear, public schools have not taught people how to think critically.

[@mikeklinkowski4228]

@@calvinhobbes6118 Disagree.. Aspect of the targeting call is the speed of the hit.. I swear public schools have ZERO BEARING on whether the hit is Targeting or not!

[@McFarkle]

@@calvinhobbes6118 It doesn’t, the form does. He had perfect form, therefore not targeting. However missing the block meant the defender had tons of momentum, which meant the hit was always going to be hard, and that’s the only reason this play was even looked at (because again, perfect form)

[@cedarbreaks2010]

Silly that football players get in trouble for making football plays. Just take their helmets and pads away and everything will be fine. Just look at rugby.

[@ryanjones7681]

100% this

[@evanmurphey]

People complaining about a rough hit like college football isn’t a inherently violent sport 💀💀💀 it’s literally football, out here crying like the kid isn’t gonna end up with CTE anyways

[@jonborton1295]

Nice rage bait

[@swivk4917]

Sadly I don’t think this is Ragebait, dude is serious.

[@peteyoung3124]

You gotta blame the offensive line on that one. 10 yd of unobstructed path directly at the QB? Where the hell was any coverage? And how did the QB not see it coming?

[@Dwdrummer1995]

They showed blitz from the other side, which is what the offensive line was paying attention to. Then post snap, they dropped into coverage and sent the safety (that wasn’t up to the line showing blitz) from the other side.

[@rumblebudgie2085]

They are RUINING football with this "targeting" BS! That's called a good hit. He'll yes he targeted the QB. IT'S FOOTBALL!

[@WilliamBrooks-ig7mi]

Because concussions and CTE are the price players should pay for our entertainment?

[@markdonahue]

The QB wasn't a defenseless player because he wasn't throwing the ball, so head to head contact shouldn't matter, right?

[@katherineknapp4370]

I'm so thankful the ISU player is ok.

[@anthonyfarley796]

What an amazing hit clean and made a statement not targeting

[@td811]

The rules official for the broadcast actually said the QB who is a football player in full pads and helmet , who received the snap, who has the ball and is looking to pass it was a defenseless player. Give me a friggin break.

[@torijones9992]

Today’s game is soft!!! And they want to get paid as college players?! Give me a break!

[@stephenfulbright9772]

I think the ejection/suspension mandate should be reviewed.

[@UltimateKeyboardWarrior]

Clean hit

[@my2cents-x4j]

This looked like a GOOD FOOTBALL hit to me.... these targeting rules are very suspect sometimes... lets just all start playing flag football then.... its getting ridiculous.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

Easy ejection call. He could have done a normal tackle he was unblocked and it was free

[@beng4151]

What's a normal tackle? He squared up and hit the QB. Should he have slowed down? That might let the QB get away. Just ridiculous to blame players for this.

[@jonborton1295]

@@beng4151tf are you talking about? Nothing was normal about that tackle. He had a frozen target, made a lot of helmet contact, then intentionally drove all of his body weight into the head/neck area to make sure that’s the part that got crushed on impact with the ground. This would’ve been a flag 15 years ago, it was the most blatant example of malicious intent I’ve seen in forever. Any defensive player worth his salt can wrap a frozen target up around the chest or shoulder area and bring them down without putting that much trauma on the head.

[@jeremiahthompson8951]

​@jonborton1295 😢😢😢😢😢. You're so soft. Go watch volleyball clown 🤡 you are the reason why this game has taken a step back in so many ways. I hate fans like you.

[@AndrewH1220]

@@beng4151 Just say you don't know ball

[@beng4151]

@@jonborton1295 Utterly ridiculous, especially when you consider how fast these players can run. And to call it the most malicious intent you've seen in forever means you have the mental capacity of a grape.

[@TyrillCelestine]

Wait I’m so confused how are you supposed to sack a qb now?

[@TheCpadron19]

Ejected for making a great play. Football is weak af now

[@AndrewH1220]

First off that a a dirty play 2nd the rules have been a thing for almost like a decade but now "football is weak" like bro learn ball

[@EliteDogSF]

And you're going to keep watching no matter what, so they can do whatever rule changes they want

[@kingpat892]

​@AndrewH1220 this may have been a penalty, but it was not a dirty play. Defenses are taught to be aggressive, so it's very difficult to gauge how a QB is going to brace for impact. If we go by your logic, there would be "dirty" plays anytime a defensive player misses the football when kickers are attempting field goals and the defense takes the kickers legs out from under him.

[@thefourhorsemen91]

Im glad he's out of the first half of the next game. That was a bad hit. The fact that the whole team celebrated was sick.

[@AndrewPick6]

idk how anyone can say that's not targeting. is that coach blind

[@chazrooks4681]

The QB dipped and stepped into the hit. A person with the ball CANNOT be a defenseless player. They LITERALLY have the ball and the point is to hit the person with the ball.

[@thesupervisor3270]

It’s football dork

[@joshmiller6421]

@@chazrooks4681 yes, they absolutely can be lol try to learn the rules. Clear, easy targeting call

[@ferociousfil5747]

Look up targeting rules. No crown, no launching = no targeting.

[@homerohernandez7982]

Very nice form tackle.

[@bobweber4913]

Stupid play when you are up 35 in the 4th quarter. Now your gone for the first half of your teams most important game.

[@TTundragrizzly]

It wasn’t targeting. Good solid tackle

[@bassandtrebleclef]

​@@TTundragrizzlyyour opinion doesn't matter.

[@GraveMemories]

​@bassandtrebleclef it mattered to you, otherwise you wouldnt reply with nonsense Add to the conversation or bugger off

[@td811]

@@bassandtrebleclefyour opinion matters even less

[@TTundragrizzly]

@@bassandtrebleclef you must either be blind or just ignorant of the game… Did you not see the QB duck his head down into the hit? It WAS a good tackle.

[@Scottdaville]

They should play flag football 🤐

[@Jury244]

Good tackle

[@AndrewH1220]

Horrible*

[@TDotRedemption]

@@AndrewH1220 **Beautiful tackle

[@AndrewH1220]

@@TDotRedemption How? 💀💀🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤡🤡

[@TDotRedemption]

@@AndrewH1220 Shamari Simmons aimed to tackle Rocco Becht right at his chest. Rocco out of instinct and fear, crouched over to reduce the impact of the tackle. Shamari followed through with the tackle and drove Rocco into the ground. It's Rocco's teammates fault for not blocking and Rocco's fault for crouching over which is why there was a helmet to helmet collision.

[@McFarkle]

@@AndrewH1220 He tackled head up like you are taught at every level. Could have ducked his head to spear the QB and knock him out but instead laid a perfectly legal hit on the QB and still got punished

[@decline2state]

Looked like a pretty good call. The ASU coach should have nothing to complain about.

[@tonyb8791]

Not targeting. Anyone who thinks a QB is defenseless should just watch the WNBA. Facemask to facemask, good hit.

[@jamesalexander3837]

Defender gets punished b/c Iowa States OL sucks… welcome to 2024

[@tmaacattack]

glad all the experts in the comments say this isn’t targeting despite directly meeting the requirements. you can’t hit a qb in the head with your helmet

[@ferociousfil5747]

That is not the definition of targeting. Yes roughing the passer but no crown of the helmet, that is the top part, no launching. 15 yards and no ejection is the most this should have been. Refs call targeting for every hit that has some sort of head contact. No consideration for the other players reaction, or rule book like every other play they call, it’s all about Vegas baby!

[@whoamiwiw]

@@ferociousfil5747Like Brian Branch when he got ejected

[@wastedbread8036]

yeah but it just wasn't that dirty of a hit

[@tvb1020]

As an Iowa Hawkeye alum, i dont see targeting here. 😂

[@BroncosCountry58]

Not a dirty play but a dangerous play

[@riff2072]

It was clearly a dirty play. The hit with the helmet to the head, the hit with the helmet to the head on the ground and the multiple "take a nap" pose. Number 7 was pleased with that he sent the QB knocked out and celebrated it.

[@McFarkle]

@@riff2072 Didn’t knock him out, and he didn’t duck his head. You are taught to tackle face forward in that situation, which is exactly what he did. Helmet to helmet contact is fine if it’s incidental, and the only reason it occurred in the first place is because the QB dropped into a full squat moments before the hit.

[@Goldmember66]

“Ya gotta look at targeting for this Joe”. Translation: calm down jackazz, it was dirty and the qb is hurt.

[@alansabin7487]

qb was not hurt, he did his part to sell the penalty. should not be target. maybe high it but not target.

[@Goldmember66]

@ dude….he got smashed. He didn’t need to sell anything.

[@McFarkle]

@@Goldmember66 Got smashed? Yes. Got targeted? No. Blame the OL for letting him get smashed, but the defender had perfect form. Also the QB came back a few plays later

[@Bullets632]

Forceable contact. It's football, you have to contact them in order to play lol.

[@BarbellThor]

That's tough. QB turns INTO the hit, and the DB didn't lead with the crown. It fits the definition, but there was no intent.

[@Jleed989]

How else is he supposed to tackle him and stop the pass?

[@carlosjimenez6448]

Such a BS call.. Gotta look at how QBs drop down before hits like that man..

[@firstlast7099]

Clean hit on the quarterback. If you can’t take a hit, go play tennis.

[@RudyGarcia-m2p]

Exactly 💯 .....

[@treasureman2023]

Kenny needs to teach his guys how to tackle an OB. You can't do a QB like this

[@Tom67Slick]

He had every opportunity to go for the ball, do a spear style hit to the arm midsection area, use the shoulder and form tackle, but instead went high for a knockout hit, clear penalty

[@bobbybushwhacker]

The point is it shouldn't be a penalty. There shouldn't be a flag just because a hit looks scary. If you dont want to get hit then don't play

[@McFarkle]

@@Tom67Slick If he speared, that would be a penalty, but he kept his head up and hit him in the chest, exactly how it’s taught on all levels. Now it was a bit high, and there was some *incidental* helmet to helmet contact, but that’s because the QB ducked moments before the hit, and it really wasn’t enough to warrant targeting anyways.

[@Tom67Slick]

@@McFarkle i mean spear like wwe style shoulder to midsection

[@McFarkle]

@@Tom67Slick That’s how you miss a tackle, you would have to turn your body to do that, and doing so would give the QB the ability to easily evade the tackle

[@yuwish6320]

I don't think he deserved to be ejected. There was helmet-to-helmet contact, and the DB could have let up a bit. But I don't feel that was a dirty play.

[@yellowriverboy5734]

Good thing your uninformed feelings don’t matter

[@yuwish6320]

@@yellowriverboy5734 As such, neither do yours. Have a nice day.

[@conorhiggs847]

What ncaa should do is void the targeting if the offensive player crouches to brace for impact

[@simon134]

Terrell Suggs used to do that on the regular for ASU, it's called a QB Sack. Now it's a hate crime...lame.

[@lifestylelove2651]

If you look at it ,,,it was not targeting the reason becuase the offensive player droped lower when he seen him coming late and the defender was always in hit mode and could change at all

[@GreyhairedOldman]

What a joke eye to eye contact can't be targeting what a joke

[@lololilo102]

Don’t let the comments fool you. No legit coach is teaching DBs to tackle head to head.

[@FedUpVet]

All I see is one hell of a defensive play, and it's his offensive lines job to idk block.

[@toddberlier5487]

Old guy here. Folks calling this a good tackle or some other bs about the good ole days, shut up, you're wrong.

[@lildozer51]

This is beyond ridiculous. Good lort. Let em play football

[@pablolara2812]

Man that targeting rule they need to get rid of it!! Let them play that’s the guys job deliver that hit!!

[@nellietolb420]

Headfirst . Totally avoidable. Quit your crying. He wanted to hurt him and paid the price. That's on the coaches.

[@granlund636]

I'm not so upset about the hit, but the tackler's reaction immediately after. He gave a "naptime" sign without even looking back. He knew he'd knocked the guy out and was celebrating it.

[@mrbiggg66]

Where is the play that the illegal hit occurs?

[@AndrewH1220]

Are you blind?

[@lilmari528]

@@AndrewH1220no you’re just soft

[@AndrewH1220]

@@lilmari528 How?

[@lilmari528]

@@AndrewH1220 because its a clean text book hit… idk what else you want the kid to do

[@matthius1692]

My favorite football play all year. These types of hits don't happen to the quarterback enough anymore. These no rules are complete nonsense.

[@wheeler71]

Totally justified ejection 👋