Arkansas Natural Stones - Our review and pros and cons of these natural stones

[@larryhankins3586]

As a Arkansan having used Arkansas Stones all my life there is certainly a art to using to them, it helps when they are from your hometown too.

[@nadm]

I'm looking forward to continuously using them. I think they're great finishers. Jonathan is sending me some more. He also believes that they're a little bit slow on bevel setting. You can really do that with a synthetic so much faster. I do like the feel for polishing and honing. It makes sense when you're doing it for a razor. Obviously hometown favorites are a thing.

[@zenrazor659]

​@@nadmFrom what you showed the knife cut very bad! I use stones only on on razor! But After seeing your video again it seems these stones are very bad!!! Also for razors!!😮 Perhaps a coticule Belgian could be good also for knives. Anyway I have only an Arkansas translucent and it costed too much for what is able to do🎉 I don't understand you wrote are good finishers if it was clear it cut so bad🤔

[@Master...deBater]

I find that people who usually use softer stones really struggle with Arks. I think they're used to the slurry doing most of the work for them. It's really easy to contact the entire edge with slurry and a soft stone with some give to it. But when working on an Ark you really have to make sure that the entire edge makes consistent contact with the stone. It's also really easy to ruin a portion of the edge if you barely tilt the blade a bit too steep...even for a micro-second! I love my Arks but they're definitely easiest to use with straight razors and knives with really wide, flat bevels where it's easy to maintain a consistent angle.

[@tedwutang]

I am firm on only using water with small dish soap. Never oil even on Dan’s stone. Oil makes stones nasty with fine metal dust stuck inside. But sharpening I never think I’m good enough I’m open to learning from experts like you. Please keep those videos coming.

[@nadm]

Thank you for the tip and the support. I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment.

[@Master...deBater]

I totally agree about dish soap vs oil. One thing people don't realize is that the bubbles in the soap keep the metal particles from holding on to the stone. My father who was a USDA meat inspector taught me that trick 40+ years ago. And my Arks and Washita stones are always clean and able to perform!

[@larrymc4373]

Not dull at all. Thanks for the video.

[@nadm]

I appreciate you coming and I'm so sorry I took a while to get back to you

[@tinman1955]

I like Arkansas stones for the tactile & audio feedback. Tells you exactly where the apex is better than any synthetic stone I've used - probably because they're so insanely hard. A hard Arkansas wears very slowly but if you ever need to flatten one with that silicone carbide grit you may want to carve a week or two out of your schedule... they're called hard for a reason. You may wear holes in the glass before the stone gets flat. 😱

[@robthomas6012]

Greg, Great video. Like you said I use my Arkansas Translucent then my Surgical Black for polishing. I mainly do edge leading strokes. They put a super fine polished edge. Oh and yes highly recommend Dans best product on the market. Thank you for doing the video.

[@nadm]

Yes, I am learning that. You have to figure out where you're getting them from. Not a resource is the same. I do like them for finishing.

[@Agent_Orange_Peel]

Love me some Arkansas stones. Very slow cutters. Once they load up, they are almost useless. I used a diamond plate to lap one side of the stone. So one side is a sight more course. I really only use them for my straight blades these days. Does a great job with them.

[@nadm]

Thank you for that. I know for finishing their amazing and I'm hearing first-rate blades. They are incredible. I agree that once they load they become useless.

[@thomasgronek6469]

Yes, I dress one side rough, and the other smoother, but not burnished, on my Big Black Ark. For me, a dished out stone is nice to work with, and the flat surface bothers me a bit, but I use the edge of the stone (1" thick) for my EDCs and other small knives. In my opinion, stones can be too wide, but never long enough

[@zenrazor659]

Can I lap the Arkansas stone with water and after use with oil or I must lsp with oil if Ibintend to use oil for honing?🎉

[@nadm]

That is a fantastic question. I’m gonna have to ask some people. A lot of times they don’t do it the normal way. They will put this silicone carbide dust on a piece of glass and they will add water and then they will put the stone on that and rub it around. They’re basically making sandpaper. What you said it was very interesting. I’ll have to find out. I don’t know how long it’s gonna take to get back to you.

[@zenrazor659]

@@nadm I honr razors and I have an Arkansas stone that I can't use because I don't know if I have to lap and wash only with oil and only with stones and lapping stones that will be used and washed alwys and only with oil if I have choose to use oil for honing!🙄🤔🫡🙃

[@adamellistutorials]

What knife is that?

[@Doodle-.Snoozel]

Hey does it fell more like a jnat ?

[@dropdtuned1]

I will say no for two reasons. All JNATs can be different. Even so, I love the feel of Surgical black stones. I wish I could put it into words. Is it waaay better then the feeling of JNATS, no, but it is a bit different.

[@dropdtuned1]

I also believe I can get a more polished edge with JNATs. I do not use my surgical blacks for straight razors

[@nadm]

No! The comments below also concurred my thoughts. Japanese natural stones have just more feeling. These Arkansas stones can feel like glass. Not a lot of feedback. Not a lot of slurry. I felt like I had to have more trust. The Japanese natural stones just performed really so much better right out of the gate. I do like these as finishers, but I will take my Japanese natural stones over these. There's a serious difference in price.

[@7861blackthorn]

I've been waiting for this video 😀

[@nadm]

Thank you for checking us out.

[@andywittwer3178]

Great video and you nailed it with not setting a bevel on an ark. Dans Whetstone’s has the best grade available and they will give you a very consistent edge. Dawn dish soap and water on the translucent and black is in my opinion the best option.

[@nadm]

I'm definitely gonna try your dish soap and water trick and I'm hearing the different purveyors have a lot to do with the quality. We have some more stones coming from a different area. Jonathan is considered one of the best and he is hand picking out some more stones to send to us.

[@Stargazer80able]

Great video. Hope to aquire the Arkansa stones sometime. I probably spent hundreds of hours back when I started sharpening- with a lot of different stones and knives. Machines always did the job faster and better. But using the right tools for the job, I can do manually sharpening as good , if not better than with machines. Unless it is the high speed machines that cost half a years worth of wage. :/ Sharpening manually also give pride in work and accomplishment.

[@nadm]

Good luck!

[@dropdtuned1]

Ideas for video(s) What is your goto knife in the kitchen, which do you use most often and why? What is your favorite knife your collection? Be honest :) ... and it may spark som fun feedback in the comments section. What is your favorite stone, not the most practical one, the one that you enjoy sharpening on the most, in your overall progression?

[@nadm]

I was pretty sure I answered a lot of those in other videos. Gyuto is my favorite. Doesn't really matter if it's 210 mm up to 240 mm. There's one knife everybody knows it's my favorite.. Anryu is my favorite. It was the first knife I ever got. 210 mm and it doesn't really oxidize. It's super blue but it's been used in countless videos and gets incredibly sharp. That actually answers the first two questions. It's hard to say the last one. There are several 1000 grit stones that I like. I love my Japanese natural stones.

[@inthespread001]

I have surgical black ark and I would only use it for straight edge. I remember from another video. I forgot who. If you want the Arkansa stone to be faster. You have to polish it with 2000 or 4000 grip to create a rougher surface. I would recommend doing it only on one side.

[@nadm]

Thank you for that. We got some new stones in. We’re gonna keep exploring everything. I’m never gonna practice what you said.

[@thomasgronek6469]

I use 150 grit SiC to rough up the face of mine, I haven't tried 2,000 or 4,000 grit, but I don't recon it would touch the surface of a Surgical black

[@nadm]

@@thomasgronek6469 I have some so I’m going to use it. I think I know how to do it. You’re more than welcome to list how you do it. I heard take a piece of glass and lay it down so you know it’s flat and then put the product on there and then I had a little bit of water. And then you can rub the plate on it. Let me know if that sounds accurate if there’s more details. I have all course SiC

[@inthespread001]

@Never a Dull Moment Thomas is right with the sic. I didn't need to have a rough surface for my straight razors and only experimenting with 2000 and 4000 grit. It will take a long long time

[@thomasgronek6469]

@@nadm Greg, that could take forever, the Sic rolls around between the glass and the stone, I bond the Sic to a sheet of paper with glue, or I buy Wet-or-Dry sandpaper, and just rub the surface to rough it up. Think of it this way, of one had small rocks between the sidewalk, and a cinder block, and you pushed the block back and forth, the stones would just roll in between, that would quickly get worse as the edges wore from the stones. So yes, I've seen it done with glass and sic, but I'm not trying to flatten, I'm just dressing the face. It takes about 5 minutes with wet-or-dry, and there's almost no mess. Flattening would be different, I would use a diamond plate.

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

There is also a translucent blue/black which you can shine a light through. Arkies have the same grit but different densities.

[@nadm]

Thank you. Yes, I am learning more all the time. I had some new one sent to me recently. I’m excited to keep exploring. We’re not gonna just stop here.

[@hobosnacho]

Hi Greg, do you have any shapton glass stones?

[@nadm]

Only a couple. I had the 220 grit and I wore it down and gave it to my son and then I have the 10,000 are the 12,000 but I haven't had a chance to use it. I do like that series. I just don't have any right now to do any testing. We've definitely spend a lot of money over the last year. I am a fan of the company.

[@MrRourk]

My current setup is King 300 Dan's 8" Soft Arkansas, Japanese Aoto Natural, and 8" Rozutec. This setup was not that much money.

[@nadm]

I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment. Very nice and very efficient and I'm glad you're getting great results.

[@slipperysteve2513]

We need more videos on these stones. I’m an Arkansan and grew up with these stones. Also, for future purposes, it’s pronounced WASH-IT-AH, not WA-SHE-TUH.

[@EDCandLace]

Clo-see-nough

[@dropdtuned1]

In my experience, unlike most Japanese natural stones, Arkansas stones need to wear in a bit or you can burnish them as they are formed from two different geological processes. After that break in or burnishing, they have a more consistent use. I only use Arkansas or any other natural stone as finishers. As you noted in this video and in others, natural stones are not fast and I prefer a synthetic progression to a natural finisher. With that being said, other than the nostalgia of sharpening in a rock, the only reason that I really use natural stones is that I love the feel when using them, even if they take a bit longer. I own way to many natural stones and I have het to see a natural stone whose benefits outweigh technique as they are not magic.

[@nadm]

So we have some more coming and yes, it was brought to my attention that sometimes you have to continuously scrape off the layer to get to the best part. But I do believe they're better finishers.

[@7861blackthorn]

Also, I think you might be the first Coe stone review I've seen as well. Everyone seems to love his product. Also, personally, with these types of stones, I've found oil is better than water. Ive tried just oil. Just water. and a soap+water blend. And oil won for me. Better edge, lesser load rate, and seems to work a bit more aggressively.

[@nadm]

It's so funny that everybody has their recipe for what to put on the stone. Soap and water seem to be something that a lot of people like. We have some more stones coming, so I'm excited to try out all these combinations. Jonathan is a really great guy and has been quite helpful. He's been pretty hard on himself actually. He does think that they're not that aggressive compared to synthetic stones. We've got some more on the way and we will test them in the future and keep it going. Thank you for checking it out. I'm so sorry I took so long to get back to you.

[@sonkekoster3105]

Hi Greg, many people go mad for Yu Kurosaki knives, but this knife is really a beauty. Maybe I try get one of these. The finish look's amazing!

[@nadm]

I am a big fan of his knives. Some people are and some people are not.

[@Kierayamashita427]

Found this as I got in to the natural stone mud and started getting some second hand Arkansas. Honestly it’s the only vid I saw of you and noticed you finished the edge Reversed from what I do but stropped it same. Think the burr would have flaked off if you finished it the same way you stropped it on the stone. Than strop it. I made my strop the same as my stones on somewhat flat surface. Just to keep it even and not get the strop to flex and curve. Great video

[@kcb5150]

You need a true washita to really get an idea of what Arks are capable of at lower grit and that means a vintage hone as the stuff they sell as washita these days tends to be very open soft arkansas which is not the same at all.

[@nadm]

Jonathan Coe did just send me some new stuff so I’m excited to try it.

[@morehn]

My experience is that they're very hard, they produce almost no slurry, and therefore they take longer to grind all those scratches out. I like the black for finishing.

[@JORGE10JOSE10]

It was a nice video with an honest review. It takes some practice using natural stones. On most stones I prefer water but when using polishing natural stones I prefer food grade mineral oil. The clean edge part seems great for a general purpose knife but sounds too rough for a surgical black. It could be remaining burr or it could be residual aggressive edge from the coarse stone. One tip that may help is to sharpen coarse at 10 degrees and polish with a 13-15 degree microbevel, this way you make sure you are polishing the apex. Since its a bad idea to make burr on polishing stones you can test your progress by cutting paper before and after the polish. Murray Carter 3 finger test also servers the same purpose.

[@nadm]

So I am used to using the Japanese natural stones. I love them very much. I tried water and had some success the first time. The second time it seem like the stones were loaded up. They had me clean them thoroughly through a vigorous cleansing, and then use the product that I used in the video. I did for different sharpenings to get to where we were. They are actually sending me some more stones now to try some new stuff. I'm excited because the stones will be from a different area. I appreciate your input and I look forward to continuous experiment.

[@adamwhiteson6866]

Hmm. I have arks from Dan. My soft ark cuts quite effectively and you can feel it. Def not a polishing stone. In fact my hard ark also cuts quite aggressively. One needs a bit of time with these stones to learn how they work. Surface prep is a big factor in the aggressiveness of the stone. This may explain some of the price difference between Taytools & Dan's. Thanks for doing this. I will have to check out Coe's stones.

[@nadm]

I'm excited to check out the other stones he has sent. I just haven't had time

[@jim34morrison]

I was lucky enough to find an entire set of Jon Coe’s on eBay that included the highly coveted Dota Creek Gray. Is he totally out of it now?

[@nadm]

You are definitely lucky and you should now go buy a lottery ticket. I hope to learn how to use these things one day. I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment.

[@jim34morrison]

@@nadm I’ll be thinking of you and wishing you well. I really hope things will stabilize for you in the near future.

[@nadm]

@@jim34morrison thank you. This year is probably going to be one of the best years of my life. We just had to get all of that out of the way. I hope you don't mind me boring you with a story real fast, but that was one thing I have wanted for more than 30 years. Since November 1993. I've had a small savings account put aside and I finally bought it three weeks ago. It is one of my great joys in my life. It is a watch. It is a Breitling watch. It's a very specific one and they stop making it for years and then they started making it again. They started to stop making it again and I had to hunt one down at a certain store that I saw it a year ago and they happen to still have it. It took me 30 years to get the one thing that I've always wanted and the other thing I wanted was a surgery to remove my skin. I'm getting the surgery in June. I will be recovering for two weeks at home and then I will be in pain for a couple of months while I heal, but I will get all of the extra skin removed from my weight loss.

[@jim34morrison]

@@nadm those are beautiful heirloom pieces. I’m very happy for you. That takes an impressive amount of discipline to meet that goal!

[@EREBO95]

I have some johnathon for stones and I can say my favorite one is his soft which is the 2nd one you use. It’s comparable to a regular soft ark and his harder stones I didn’t really like. I much prefer the regular black Arkansas for finishing. This is just my opinion on what I got,many of the straight razor guys really like his stuff.

[@nadm]

I appreciate your experience and your knowledge. Glad to hear it. I'm going to be incorporating them soon in the progression to see if they can jump in nicely.

[@michaelbrohl1625]

What is that you are using to dull the knife ? I need to dull some knives for sharpening practice. Thanks.

[@nadm]

I use a stone that is a cheap natural stone

[@hoggif]

I'm somehow putt off by natural stones. They tend to be expensive, especially if you'd like a larger size comparable to synthetics. Different stones are also difficult to judge as you usually don't get to try out one when you order and they are of course not consistent. (some are, all my coticules are pretty similar!) I have some naturals I like, some I don't like and some of them that would need to be used more to get the best out of them. Some stones like coticule are quite nice, but I like larger size and affording something like 210x75mm (8x3") is just not realistic to me. I tend to have mostly finishers in the range of 6k and up. Sometimes they are just fun to use and compare and they can make different edge and/or different finish. Never tried arkansas stones, shipping costs to europe (and the price of larger sizes) keeps me from getting any just out of curiosity. Even if I prefer my synthetics way over the nats I have, nats can teach you a lot. You just cannot pick a different stone with a slightly different grade and you need to work with slurry, thinning, varying pressure and so on. Those skills can be sometimes compensated by using a wider range in synthetics, but learning things like that can be helpful with synthetics too. My nats have tought me a lot, even though I tend to pick up a synthetic 99,99% of the time.

[@nadm]

The synthetic sis perform so well, especially for the price and they're always gonna be the same. I really love working with something that came from mother nature. The Japanese natural stones excel. You always have to sort through all the stones to find a good one, but they really do rise to the occasion. These were not expensive and make good finishers. We are exploring several more that are on the way.

[@easymoneyism]

You’ll be happy

[@AlexanderMason1]

Limestone not only will not sharpen your knife, since it has a most hardness of 3 to 4 while tempered steel is about a 5.5 (At least anything that has a blade) but even if it did(which it can’t because of how soft it is) you would have to flatten it every few passes because of how soft it is.

[@robertdavis171]

Great show! I always wondered how Arkansas natural stones worked. From your video, and other comments, it seems to me they are quicker/better than oilstones, but slower than waterstones. Ther are fans for everything, including belt sharpening. By the way, the stone you use to make knives dull. It has a Japanese label on the end. So it's not just a brick. What is it?

[@nadm]

Amakusa is the name of the stone? I'm using to dial the knife. I'm enjoying some belt sanding right now. We have some more Arkansas stones coming from different regions. We will continue to experiment.

[@dadadadave100]

I use dawn and water works really well

[@nadm]

I'm gonna be trying that on the next video that we do with the stones. We have some more stones coming from a different area. Jonathan is picking them out. Excited to test out some more.

[@dadadadave100]

@@nadm I’ll be waiting for your video 🤙

[@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique]

Araknsas stones are great to mirror up a finished edge. They’re not really good sharpeners. They do well after the sharpening is already finished by another stone. They make the edge mirror polished, and deburr the very last micro burs. 👏

[@nadm]

I've got some new ones, so I need to work with them and do another video

[@chadr2604]

I use dans whetstones to clean up tooling before and after sharpening and to knock burrs off. The SiC norton stones don't work worth a crap they cut the tool. Novaculite is hard enough to remove galled on titanium, aluminum, and stainless steel but is softer than the parting off blade.

[@nadm]

Thanks for the info!

[@chadr2604]

@@nadm We have a parting off blades I was able to convince the vendor to substitute depleted uranium for molybdenum. I can run 10,000-15,000 parts before grinding it if I use the arkansas stone to clean it up. I actually use a 1000x microscope. A pit 50 millionths of an inch wide makes a difference on tool life believe it or not.

[@chadr2604]

@@nadm any imperfection is something for metal to weld on to and it is also a stress riser just like a square corner.

[@dadadadave100]

I have a great set of Arkansas stones

[@nadm]

We're gonna keep mixing it up

[@camputee1]

I have to say that I like your channel and this video is a good one. I do have a couple of notes for you. Ask your camera person to refrain from commenting every ten seconds. Perhaps your camera person might like to have a channel of their own. Keep on making videos and I will keep watching. Less cowbell.

[@TheGuuurruu]

💯

[@TheGuuurruu]

I thought i was the only one that felt that way

[@trappenweisseguy27]

I used my fathers hard black Arkansas many times. I thought it gave a decent edge, but very slow cutting even after dressing it flat. Once I tried a Japanese water stone it was game over.

[@nadm]

Yes, I believe the Japanese natural stones is just so much better. I think you can get it done with this, but it was quite frustrating as you can see.

[@polarowl9620]

@@nadm Sir, sins you are working on oilstones, try to use oil only as needed, just few drops. Other thing you can improve is use only the right hand to hold the knife. For the back side just place the stone on the table corner and turn your body in 45 degree to the stone.Just hold the knife in other direction again dam on top, as you do regular with your right hand. On a lover table you can sit. Under the stone just a wet kitchen towel. Sorry for my bed English. Wishing you all the best.

[@nadm]

@@polarowl9620 I don’t know if you’re aware that I am an extremely amazing proficient sharpener. I am probably one of the best there is. I’m not kidding. That’s the one thing I know how to do. I got taught by the best and then I made it better. I will always use the other hand and not the right hand on both sides. instagram.com/p/CYacnh3lwmD/?igshid=MmJiY2I4NDBkZg==

[@nadm]

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[@nadm]

@@polarowl9620 I was told what to do by the man himself, John Cole. He has since gotten any more stones. He had said those stones were shit. He told me himself. He literally is the man that cuts the map of the Earth.

[@sonkekoster3105]

Hi Greg, nice video. There is nothing to blame. Natural stones are complicated and need alot ot experience with each stone. You just used a hole bunch of them. That's not easy. I would guess it would be easier to finish with one of the fine stones not the whole series. Or to check the knife on paper, after each stone. A method I like. Just a few deburring strokes on each stone and I can check the results on paper before I progress onto the next stone.

[@nadm]

I have a lot of Japanese natural stones and they are easy to use and they work incredibly well. These were frustrating because there are so many other things that work easier. We got a result, but I got better results faster. My wife will tell you that when the cameras off by grab the one K stone biosynthetic company and I got better results in two minutes. We will continue to explore this. Jonathan is sending me more stones from a different area. I am very proficient in sharpening and very proficient on natural stones by the stones did not perform as well as I had hoped. We're always keeping it honest.

[@sonkekoster3105]

@@nadm Great, I only want to share my thoughts. No criticism!!! That's the basic principle, if you try out new things. Not all tries - results in happy endings...

[@nadm]

@@sonkekoster3105 Jonathan has sent me some new stuff. They’re kind of soft. He wants me to use a synthetic stone to set a bubble. We will be exploring these in the coming weeks. Obviously, there’s a lot going on on the channel. We have the unicorn series, we have the whetstone wars series, we have Blade show in June we will be going out of town. We’re trying to learn how to use the belt sander as well as the tormek eight. It takes time on the weekends to go through everything. I’ve been wanting to do the Japanese natural stones because I love them, but that community will crucify you if you get any detail wrong. You live in fear of speaking improperly to anyone

[@dadadadave100]

Got mine from Dans

[@nadm]

Apparently, he is a good purveyor

[@briandetrick2688]

i have never felt for a burr in my life all my knifes keep an edge

[@nadm]

I think the knives were really dull and it was that we're gonna take some time.

[@damascusfreak1967]

The Interaction between you and your wife crack me up

[@AlexanderNecheff]

There isn't really a slurry with these stones in the same way there are with Japanese water stones. The Arkansas stones will eventually dish out from hard use over many years, but what you are seeing is swarf from the steel. With black vs. translucent, it is best to think of them as basically the same. You can get some variance since they are natural and individual samples can be a little "finer" than another, but looking at a complete sharpening system, black and translucent are interchangeable.

[@nadm]

Thank you for that. I'm looking forward to using them again. I have some new ones. It seems that they excel on the finishing and pre-finishing versus setting an edge.

[@diavalus]

^ this. I see so much misinformation in the comment section, so it’s good to finally see someone who knows what is talking about.

[@easymoneyism]

And a spyderco fine

[@nadm]

I appreciate your insight. I'm going to be reevaluating all of this very soon.

[@easymoneyism]

Get a spyderco medium

[@nadm]

Thank you for that.

[@barbacoabrothers742]

Hahaha. I did LOL on the her handling the comments remark.

[@nadm]

Thanks for commenting and checking out the show. I'm sorry it took so long to respond.

[@dadadadave100]

Aloha Greg

[@nadm]

Hey buddy

[@KemAMP]

Too much lubricant. Just a thin film would do. Or use soap and water freely, something like 1 to 10 ratio.

[@zenrazor659]

The knife cut very bad! Very good review! You should the same test with the coticule yellow!🎉😮

[@nadm]

I’ll have to look into it. I don’t have the money right now to buy another thing but thank you. I will try to read on it.

[@alexxx7778]

You used too much lubricant, Arkansas stone is not a water stone. Better use oil but not too much, just 2-3 drops and not more!

[@nadm]

We're going to keep playing. I also got some new ones the other day from Jonathan. We had four other sessions other than this one. We have a great results with everything but setting the bevel because they're just not that course. We did get some new ones to check it out. He told me to use water to keep it course.

[@briandetrick2688]

dans cuts faster

[@nadm]

Thank you. I wish I had all the money to buy everything.

[@j.mahoney1178]

That first stone sounded awful, and the second stone sounded much better, personally, I'm no fan of Arkansas stones, the only naturals I use are Japanese Nakayama.

[@kek148]

1hr to get a semi sharp knife. Kangaroo burgers a delicious.

[@nadm]

I would love to try them. Yeah, not my favorite stones. Set the Apex with something synthetic and then you can go here for polishing. I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment.

[@Thief-d3c]

That’s pretty bad sharpening. My 30 dollars Amazon sharpening stones gave me a much sharper edge than that.

[@nadm]

If you have watched me than you know that I have gotten knives extremely sharp. The stones that I got are not good for setting a bevel butt refining the edge so I just needed something to set the Edge first and then I would be fine. We're still experimenting with some more stones that were sent to us.

[@ChefS.Keller]

You definitely don’t know what you’re doing with those stones

[@jeffhicks8428]

no offense but these things are totally obsolete and essentially useless. there is zero benefit to using something like this, even on extremely easy to abrade low alloy and carbon steels like blue and white or 52100 or 1095 or whatever the American equivalents may be. America has great steels, many are better than the Japanese stuff, I think 52100 bests blue steel any day and twice on Sunday, but these american natural stones are shite. Ya know? For steel like that I'd likely use something like a 2k shapton pro unless I was removing damage or doing the whole bevel.. in that case I'd go for a chocera for the wide bevel. its just so much faster and easier and the results vastly better than what the stones in the video can do.

[@nadm]

I mean, I'm not far from where you are. I think I'm using them wrong or at least should be using them at the end for polishing. Definitely not to set an edge.. I need to apologize for taking so long. I've had a surgery on my knee and some other things going on. We've had the court case for my car accident. We had to deal with that as well. We've also had some other major things happening personally. Deaths in the family and lots of arrangements to be made. Also, I'll let you know that I will be having another major surgery in June and will not be making it to the Blade show. I will be out of work for two weeks because I'm having all the extra skin cut off of my body. We do apologize for an interruption of videos if it were to happen. Will try to shoot some head for you guys so we can fill the space. That being said, thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for your support and your comment.

[@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote]

They are good for straight razors thats about it. A natural stone will never out do synthetic man made stones though period