ARKHAM SHADOW - Batman Unmasks Himself As Harvey Confronts The Man Who Killed Bruce Wayne’s Parents

[@MGViolent]

Despite it being a VR title, this is thousands times better than that Suicide Squad trainwreck.

[@ninjat-rex7472]

@@MGViolent Oh, lightyears better. At least this doesn't have Bruce in a park bench getting put down like a dog.

[@TheArkham_Batman]

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[@Jojo-xg2kr]

True just wish they didn’t put the game in VR honestly make it worst in my opinion and I’ve played Batman games since forever that’s my only concern

[@JustinCage56]

Roger Craig Smith's and Troy Baker's shoulders must hurt a lot for carrying this scene.

[@JaydenLockton]

Putting spoilers on thumbnail with the third day of release ain’t exactly cool

[@MarvinC03TLK]

Agreed, especially when KZbin puts it onto the front page.

[@rdowg]

The thumbnail isnt even the issue, the title is much more blatant

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Thank you. There's usually some driders defending this but I guess since it's for meta or whatever now we have noone

[@Sthedarkslayer3145]

Well that's Gamer's Little Playground for ya, and Zanar Aesthetics and Shirrako, I'm trying to avoid the spoilers for Tekken 8 while I wait for my ps5, god I wish I had money fast

[@nanashi1173]

Normally I'd agree with you. But I'm not dumb enough to own a Meta. So I wouldn't of ever played this game anyway

[@elijahroof1952]

“I’m sorry, Harvey.”

[@ggt47]

Don't call me "Harvey". Call by my real name three face.

[@ninjat-rex7472]

@@ggt47 No, he is One Face and he is Batman's deadliest enemy!

[@Superheroes_United]

Man why didn’t we just get Batman Arkham shadows on the current consoles instead of VR? It would’ve sold like hotcakes especially after this year’s Suicide squad mess..

[@RRai2000]

Its already released. Move on now bud

[@wonder2002]

Hopefully they release a sort of flat version like how FNaF Help Wanted has a non-vr version, even for the Switch

[@batknightchannel8169]

I 've been asking the same too.

[@PizzaTime1983]

@Superheroes_United The whole point of this game was to make u feel like batman in vr. That was its goal. It's different playing it with yur hands on a flat tv, sitting down. The goal was never to have it on console. I mean wat can they do new anyways. The best option was doing this. Something new n interesting.

[@kwayneboy1524]

Because the company that made the vr are ones who pitched it.

[@Spider-Man4017]

The Arkham Series and Telltale series of Dent I feel bad for. In the beginning they believed what they were doing was right then it changed them and turned them into something they fought against.

[@jman217]

The worst part about the Telltale villains is that The Player shaped how f***ed up they turned out. 😢

[@Spider-Man4017]

@jman217 Yeah I agree

[@shadowspidey7327]

Damn so wait Harvey just forgot Bruce was Batman he was Bruce's best friend must have tried to block it from Two-Face

[@Devondavis-fm2dz]

Poor Harvey

[@christopherjuanis5603]

Broken

[@TheFoxHound626]

He needs kisses

[@MyJanvic]

The broken Rat King and the ultimate Two-Face... In Arkhamverse, Matches, Batman's criminal cover, accidentally spilled gasoline in Harvey's face...

[@NathanNussbaum-h5p]

😭😭😭😭

[@barrymk400]

I thought Two-Face didn't know who Batman was in Arkham Knight...

[@MyJanvic]

Well, apparently, Harvey experienced the withdrawal effects from the Titan virus, like what happened to Bane, so they both forgot it.

[@fishushu]

@Devondavis-fm2dz my guess is that his approach to it is similar to the one in the comics? A number of Batman's rogues know Batman is Bruce, but they play by the numbers, because according to Harvey's/Two-Faces own explanation, if Bruce is exposed, he'll probably retract to the darkest corners of his mind and all that's left will be a Batman without the guard rails of Bruce's morals, which is the worst scenario possible and extremely dangerous as there will be nothing stopping him from crossing any line. Thus, a lot of the Rogues just pretend to not know and absolutely never open their mouths about it. But then, that's my theory to it as it's what makes sense in the context we have in the Arkham games.

[@franciscoguzman1510]

Almost all villains know who Batman is, but they play along with the unknown viligante because they know, that if Batman looses control then even the joker would look like an amateur

[@thegamingknight2096]

5:28 "his memories of what happened seem to be slipping away with each new day"

[@jjb2385]

The Dr already said his memory is already deteriorating, his Dissociative Identity Disorder is still developing. Soon he'll forget he was ever the Rat King let alone Bruce is Batman.

[@wonder2002]

Is Two-faces eye on his burnt side like- constantly in need of eye drops?

[@thehefner]

There’s a comic where he does just that: “Batman: Dark Detective” by Steve Englehart and Marshall Rogers.

[@nanashi1173]

That's what bugged me the most about The Dark Knight two-face. His burnt side didn't have eyelids.

[@wonder2002]

@nanashi1173 guess you could argue that all the pain nerves or whatever there don't work anymore

[@nanashi1173]

@wonder2002 Since they were going so in on the realism aspect of the trilogy they should of just had his eye be gone. With what happened to Harvey the first thing to be toast would be the eye

[@wonder2002]

@nanashi1173 Yeah, but then you got certain arguments of like- realism vs established design you could say. Having his eye be gone, though a small detail, would probably not go over well with fans lol. And it's arguably more graphic, so things like ratings and censorship would come into play too

[@stancher7181]

So, is this really how we're going for? That almost everyone in the Arkhamverse knows who Batman really is yet either forgets or is in denial to repress their memory till Arkham Knight? I'm not sure I would except this, hell the best one in my opinion is Riddler outright denying that Bruce Wayne bested him and admits that Batman is his greatest nemesis that he respects and hates.

[@The_swan_god]

Well only two people have known so far. Although will admit this one was done a little worse than bane

[@stancher7181]

@@The_swan_god you're correct about the bane part, I'm only saying this in opinion as it seems to be a growing meme during the Origins years right before getting to Asylum.

[@The_swan_god]

@@stancher7181 well I don’t think it will be a trend. It makes sense for Harv because he knew Bruce before. And bane because he was just extremely smart and it taught Batman to be more careful. But I don’t think they will do it again.

[@stancher7181]

@@The_swan_god you could be right but only time will tell, still poor Harvey though. I can only imagine how horrifying and guilty Bruce must've felt knowing he was the one who scarred his friend.

[@The_swan_god]

@@stancher7181 oh yea l was surprised. That’s for sure.

[@RoyalWolfgir1019]

two face really cared for bruce just like Mr freeze I feel for two face also

[@michaelvasey8773]

Joe: Didn't hear it, didn't see it, don't know anything. Just gonna go way, way, way, way, way over here and never go anywhere near Gotham ever again because reasons.

[@akazasoyama_x]

they better make another amazing arkham game (specifically in PSN or other consoles) following the events of this one, cause this is just an amazing story, and i haven't seen good story since arkham knight. I also really wanna know what happened to Leslie, and why she didn't show up in the other games. I don't know why, but I have a DISTINCT feeling Harley Quinn ended up killing her.

[@ibadyahyahawadah7678]

"Joe, just get the hell out of here" I felt that. Not just the words u could hear the pain in his voice

[@JamesDaSunderland]

2:58 Two Face was born

[@KingVulpes]

I like how people will complain that VR has no games but will also complain when it does have games

[@deadpool-rz7wp]

i loved the ending,but something that Harvey mentioned when he was about to shoot Joe got me thinking and i could be wrong or maybe it happened later in the Arkhaman time line,but Harvey mentioned that he made a promise to a 10 year old boy(Bruce obviously) maybe when they where kids Harvey was so mad and worried for his friend so he promised to find and bring to justice who killed his parents, but in Arkaham Knight Gordon mentions that he would never forget taking the declaration of a 8 year old boy, I know its a minor detail but in the moment it got stuck in my head. Also i Like the idea of Harvey's hiding Bruce's identity from Two Face in his unconscious like his last act and way of protecting his brother from himself.

[@MoosefaceYT]

It wouldn't have killed you to just put "Arkham Shadow - Ending" and maybe a cover art image as the thumbnail. This just came up on the front page of KZbin for me 😔

[@av799]

You’ll be fine.

[@MoosefaceYT]

@av799 It's not the nicest feeling when you're excited about something, you're saving up to finally experience it, then boom... spoilers. Surely even you can understand that?

[@singleasasin]

Amazing game, great story, interesting twists ! ... 🙂 😊👍

[@NathanNussbaum-h5p]

I wonder if Bruce felt awful for hitting the fear chemical on him in the courtroom.

[@amirhomayoonfarmusic]

Imagine if the rat king was Joker lmao

[@petermichaelmoore4908]

This interpretation is amazing. Makes me feel so much pity for Harvey while hating Two face even more.

[@yupyup2347]

“We breaking canon in this one”🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Zypemaytro]

No we are not. Two Faces DID is making him forget things so he forgot that Bruce was Batman and he will forget that he is the Rat King as well.

[@yupyup2347]

@@Zypemaytro lazy ahh writing 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@kwayneboy1524]

@@yupyup2347 perhaps but it waa still a good scene and use of characters and besides what's the big deal?

[@samuraioftheeclipse4954]

At least we didn't get the Joker as the main villain again

[@Thedarkknight27474]

@@yupyup2347no not really lazy

[@Silky_Chan]

FINNALY A BATMAN FAME THATS ACTUALLY FUN

[@topmate6193]

I can’t believe Matches Malone was the Rat King!

[@darth_ohma]

And they had to put this on the Fckng VR. This could be the best cutscene arkham ever

[@Lemuel928]

Why does everyone else in Gotham City dislike Bruce Wayne’s Parents in any alternate reality?

[@Katie-b2r]

"With us" and everything else two face says sounds like spider man's 2 venom Tell me if im wrong.

[@ninjat-rex7472]

I wonder what happened to Joe in the end.

[@cameronhodgetts920]

Doesn't this contradict the established lore of the Arkhamverse? I thought Harvey's face was burned by the mob

[@bradleyrutledge]

Matches Malone (Bruce's false identity) was seen as an associate to Carmine Falcone, it doesn't contradict previous lore

[@BASEDGIGACHAD_]

I have finished this game and Tbf putting a spoiler image for people who’ve never played the game yet is a crappy move

[@PrestonTheSooza]

I was confused why they rushed to get joe out and never to see him again

[@arcanemelody901]

Bruce forgave him possibly, besides it would end up the same as Brave And the Bold. Is Joe really Gonna yap about how he technically created Batman?

[@spartan1142]

Honestly should've been on console, would've made this way better but no, we got it on VR instead

[@kwayneboy1524]

Not like we had much of a choice

[@Zypemaytro]

This game was pitched by meta to camouflage, WB did not request this to be made. We could of had this or nothing.

[@vengeance1450]

Everyone saying "we didn't have a choice" is missing the point. WB knows how much players want an actual Batman game, WB just hates making money so they make the worst decisions. If they made an official Arkham Origind sequal, or Arkham Beyond game, it would sell like crazy. But only if WB games or some other company made it, because I don't trust Rocksteady after the Shit Squad.

[@The_Danmeister_]

Dude just be happy that we got something Batman Arkham related that deserved to be included unlike a certain game

[@the_lara_and_Matthew_show]

It would have been way worse? Have you even played the game? This game would not fit on a flat screen game at all. Firstly it is a huge downgrade in terms of scope because in Arkham Knight you could explore multiple districts in Gotham. While in here you could only explore Blackgate mostly. Also as a flat screen game it wouldn't have innovated in gameplay at all. Because it would literally just be the same game with the same features. If this was a flat screen game I guarantee everyone would complain about it being terrible compared to every other game.

[@Stormer6900]

I think I get it now the Arkham story It's goes from. Arkham origins Arkham shadow Arkham asylum Arkham City Arkham Knight

[@mishuwu21dg29]

Why does this remind a little bit like the finale from the movie of se7en, where as in this scene of the game it's like detective summerset is batman, harvey is mills due to his conversion to his wrath as sin and john doe is like joe. Kinda seems a bit similar in a vibe 🤨😅

[@kannanr3389]

🦇

[@coltonbarnes7861]

I want this game so bad but i dont have a headest, after arkham knight ive been feinding for a new game (no ss will never be canon)

[@Potatus75]

Convenient amnesia = great writing. Unmask a superhero too just say oh the villians forgot is the best way to wrap a story. Especially when you do it twice for the same character.

[@Danny_ae]

The guy fell from a Rooftop of course he'll get brain damage

[@Лави-н1б]

I really want to play this game but i dont have Meta Quest :(

[@frankaliberti]

Why does Batman sound so young here?

[@TheGreenManiac10]

It takes place After Arkham Origins

[@frankaliberti]

@ I don’t know what that means.

[@cosmogcrusader5546]

​@@frankalibertiArkham Origins is chronologically the first game of the franchise. It features a younger Bruce Wayne who started out as Batman which people at the time thought he was a myth. After Origins and Blackgate, Batman had began to officially work with the police, then along came Arkham Shadow.

[@jeangreyfan4148]

This game is very Good l love Everything so far.

[@369frequencyandvibration]

And.... ?

[@Cannon__Fodder]

why havent i heard of this

[@Luqmanabdullahsani299]

I dont have VR but Im okay watching spoiler

[@andrelong1410]

Console version coming soon

[@Zypemaytro]

No it’s not.

[@andrelong1410]

@@Zypemaytro it will Wb sees we want tiger back this was just a test

[@The_swan_god]

@@andrelong1410it will not lol. Meta funded this game. You do understand that right?

[@andrelong1410]

@@The_swan_god it’s still Wb dummy. Not saying Arkham shadow console I’m saying another titled Arkham game to follow up after shadow

[@The_swan_god]

@@andrelong1410 ohhh. That may happen

[@fishushu]

One scene so extremely pungent... and made so meh by the first person view that I can only describe as blue balling and disappointing.

[@kazmiller7195]

Okay nerd

[@kwayneboy1524]

How does the first person perspective make this disappointing?

[@albertocruzado2899]

​@@kazmiller7195Says someone in the commentary section of an obscure superheroe videogame. Strange place to complain about nerds, tourist, specially when he is complaining about the cinematic value, not nerd stuff.

[@fishushu]

@@kwayneboy1524 okay, let me begin by saying the issue isn't the scene, but the way it's put on display for the player. I have absolutely nothing against the content and find it fascinating that this was a choice made for this game, since it gives a whole new context to Arkham City and Arkham Knight. But to start with, the first person view gives no space for Bruce's/Batman's body language, which is important in scenes like this, since he has background with Harvey as close friends. Even with him as stiff as a board, doing the Batman mug and being all silent, the body language speaks a lot about where he's standing in this all and can be way more potent than just dialogue. Think Hitchcock's bomb under the table scenario, the characters may not say a thing, but a tug on the lips, a hand that's clenched, shaking gaze (because the Arkham Batman has Bruce's eyes on display when he isn't using the lenses to scan the ambient), even the positioning of the character's feet and the flexing of knees can convey tension that's just not present in simple slight shaking of a camera and some few lines of dialogue. Then comes the the lack of exchange between characters. This is a moment where we see the two weights of the balance, where Harvey/Two Faces and Bruce/Batman are measuring their morals and actions and each deciding what to do. This kind of scene is better expressed with parallels and cuts from character to character to convey the chaotic nature of such dispute, and this sort of visual choice also enhances the tension in the scene. Next we have how we're locked looking Harvey from a distance, which can convey the bridge that's being burnt, but also doesn't let us see his expressions, we have to imply it through his body language that, unfortunately, is kind of stiff in this scene and thus, would've been favored by close-ups of his face or details of his characterization. And finally, the moment of reveal of Batman's identity that, in my humble opinion, ended up kind of meh when I compare it with every other iteration of it from the comics. That is one of the most iconic scenes in every Batman run where this happens, even Arkham Knight had one scene of this and it was brilliant with Bruce's impersonator having to face it and going in a spiral of denial before acceptance hit him in the face and anger took over; meanwhile, all we get in this cutscene is a bland moment where we don't even have a change in UI, because we continue to see through lines and filters that represent the cowl. We only know the cowl was removed, because of a few motions. Now, about the part where Bruce is in the doctor's office with Harvey, I believe we could've used of more expressive body language from Harvey's part, because he's defeated and exhausted and Two Faces is expanding his power over him, but he isn't dead to be just a potato sack mumbling on the ottoman. He could recoil, turn his back to Bruce one moment, then reach for his hand the next, be shocked by the coin that he doesn't remember reaching for, go on denial of what's going on, try to bargain with himself etc. And while all of this is happening, we could be seeing cuts between the halved of his face that exarcebate the pain and brokenness that he's feeling; all with some interposition here and there of Bruce's face trying to remain supportive of his friend, but also stern as he knows he'll end up facing at least one of Harvey's personalities from now on (I'm taking in consideration both Ratcatcher and Two Faces are separated parts of himself, and supposing he might come to develop The Judge at some point, like it happened in the comics and BTAS). TLDR: like I said and @albertocruzado2899 reinforced, the scene is powerful, the delivery is the issue here.

[@GeorgieLucas-cg7gl]

Pungent? You mean poignant.

[@Bountyhunter800]

They should’ve made this an actual Batman Arkham game not that VR bullshit

[@he-man36]

VR isn't bullshit, think of it like this is the Arkham Asylum for the VR Gameset. But yeah, I get how you feel.

[@the_lara_and_Matthew_show]

Yes the VR studio that pitched the game should have made a console game instead of the type of games that they make.

[@Luqmanabdullahsani299]

I dont have VR but Im okay watching spoiler