[Arknights] Viviana Delta Module Showcase / Comparison

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smallphi

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@mr.clevertrick8710
@mr.clevertrick8710 16 күн бұрын
FINALLY someone using Viviana correctly and adheres to the game design philosophy. I don't really get why others have the need to test her out solo, they don't try to help her deal dmg, they just use her like she has Surtr's kit.
@eufrosniad994
@eufrosniad994 15 күн бұрын
Because she is supposed to be a used solo as per her kit though. Otherwise, what use are the Res and Def buffs from her skills or damage reduction and shields from her talents? If you are pairing her with another op, then there are plenty of other ops who can get the job done faster and more effectively.
@AlexC-hy3mb
@AlexC-hy3mb 15 күн бұрын
@@eufrosniad994 Who said there aren't better operators? The point is to stop comparing Viviana to Surtr's kit because she is just a long redeploy executer, and start letting Viviana act as a sub dps lane holder that you keep around with the help of medics. The reason for that is literally because Viviana's kit is just a simple guard that has decent dps and survivability aspects, she will always need medic and help, she will never solo. Her kit was never to be placed and left alone like Surtr.
@Rendact
@Rendact 15 күн бұрын
@@AlexC-hy3mb "lane holder"' >1 block 😭
@eufrosniad994
@eufrosniad994 15 күн бұрын
@@AlexC-hy3mb The point I was making was in the context of using her solo. I fail to see what Surtr has to do in this matter. FYI, in this context, the OP is clearly not talking about a medic, and they are referring to the last two examples where she is doing damage while Hoshi is taking the damage. My point was that Viviana showing promise in such a context is not of interest since plenty of other operators can do better when paired with a defender. Heck, Thorns with his new module will likely do better and over a wider range than Viviana at that point.
@AlexC-hy3mb
@AlexC-hy3mb 15 күн бұрын
@@eufrosniad994 ​ @eufrosniad994 The point that the OP raised was how pointless it was to compare surtr and viviana side by side as a some "showcases" did. It just wasn't how she was meant to be played and kind of underplays the effect of the module which was the point of the showcase. I failed to see what your point is regarding what the Op said and how just letting hoshi block and showcasing the effect is somehow bad. (the mod didn't increase her survivability)
@barcodeverifier9256
@barcodeverifier9256 15 күн бұрын
Someone who finally treats Viviana as an actual stationary Guard and not a boss helidrop like Surtr
@prinz_dank125
@prinz_dank125 16 күн бұрын
A straight forward showcase, thank you so much 🙌🏆
@kr4547
@kr4547 16 күн бұрын
Now this is a good showcase! Wasn't expecting the s1 showcase but that's a really nice addition tbh, didn't know it worked that well. Overall a very good module ngl, Viv already had short cycles in-between skills and now she has better dmaage on skill. Really nice mod tbh, already considering skipping Vina lol.
@gjfwang
@gjfwang 13 күн бұрын
Vina probably ends up with some delta module eventually to fix her
@Khroniclas
@Khroniclas 15 күн бұрын
Btw it was goated af to show all skills in your signature side by side viewing. Gg
@Asaki9013
@Asaki9013 16 күн бұрын
Now just wait for Talulah as a burn ritualist to make Viviana even better.
@Rysc.
@Rysc. 16 күн бұрын
She's probably going to be a "primal guard" or something like that
@Area_GnC
@Area_GnC 16 күн бұрын
Eblana.
@GaioMare
@GaioMare 16 күн бұрын
@@Area_GnC Eblana could be the new Caster archetype (maybe delta module?)
@Area_GnC
@Area_GnC 16 күн бұрын
@GaioMare Man, the delta mod's chastity needs to be protected slapping it onto every new op just wouldn't keep it special anymore.
@Kurnia14258
@Kurnia14258 16 күн бұрын
Broh hahaha
@Kirijo176
@Kirijo176 15 күн бұрын
this is what is called a showcase ❤❤❤
@Piquliar
@Piquliar 16 күн бұрын
I feel like she'll really go ham with Aak considering how burn works and the short window the burn state is. But it's a pretty hefty improvement.
@rw6611
@rw6611 15 күн бұрын
For someone who already considered Viviana a decent operator this buff is absurdly big. She can deal more dps than Surtr up to 75 res and much more total dmg since she can stay on the field, but she needs to stay in the field and you have to time her skills right for that, while red woman have guaranteed helidropable damage in one click. Surprisingly balanced trade in my opinion.
@mrhades113
@mrhades113 15 күн бұрын
It's time for the candle knight to shine.
@Yammatti
@Yammatti 16 күн бұрын
Since vivi is so good at proc burn burst, i think it would be cool for a 6 star burn ritualist to reduce the time for thr burn bust cooldown or smt like that 7k true dmg in fast cycles are better when her skills are so short
@freakdeath1020
@freakdeath1020 15 күн бұрын
Just pair it with warmy in Vivi is enough to proc burn bust up to 10k.
@mag7520
@mag7520 15 күн бұрын
Warmy and Bobbing on their way to make enemies lose almost 10k
@rw6611
@rw6611 15 күн бұрын
@@freakdeath1020 Warmy can increase the damage of each burn proc by more than 5k, almost doubling it. Warmy enjoyers unite, we're so back
@freakdeath1020
@freakdeath1020 15 күн бұрын
​@@rw6611 The fact that it is her passive talent makes it invaluable skill for burn burst squad (if we will have that in future). Hopefully we can have her module to turn it into a global passive so that it doesn't to be in range to proc bonus burn burst damage.
@rw6611
@rw6611 15 күн бұрын
@@freakdeath1020 I think it would made her too broken for a 5star, especially if future 6star burn ritualist will be as strong as Arturia, but tbh I wouldn't even mind it that much. I'm just glad that after pondering for necrosis combo so hard HG finally made burn combo workable too, even if with small issues like Bobbing and Ifrit's delta mod.
@obsiangravel
@obsiangravel 16 күн бұрын
Bobbing's new best friend.
@rw6611
@rw6611 15 күн бұрын
Looking at how fast she applies burn it's unironically much better to combo her with Haze/Ifrit and Warmy. Bobbing will help her proc burn fallout that she can apply herself in 2-3 swipes on s3 and then he'll be completely useless.
@kr4547
@kr4547 15 күн бұрын
Bobbing is kinda ass ngl. And she hits elemental break fast enough on her own tbh
@obsiangravel
@obsiangravel 15 күн бұрын
@kr4547 "☝️🤓"
@sweetillusions5495
@sweetillusions5495 15 күн бұрын
Bobbing is unnecessary since its another Logos situation where the burn buildup is based on damage dealt, so you're better off just outright buffing her damage and she can proc it easily without a ritualist.
@kr4547
@kr4547 15 күн бұрын
@@obsiangravel this is a showcase vid. I'm supposed to do that
@pixel7649
@pixel7649 16 күн бұрын
0:55 Literally both Vivianas and the music beat synced together Genuine question, does she get a huge res ignore when she attacks enemies under burned element? cuz she just dealt a massive damage the moment she proc that burn on Patriot
@0bscurelight689
@0bscurelight689 16 күн бұрын
she deals 15% of atk as elemental dmg to enemies under burn, and Burn also debuffs res by 20
@TioChesnaughty
@TioChesnaughty 16 күн бұрын
Technically no, but A - Burn reduces enemy RES by 20 when is triggered. B - The base module makes her deal 15% more damage to enemies under Burn Burst (aka recovering from the Burn) So yeah, she does get a lot of improvements when attacking someone thats burning
@salt6952
@salt6952 16 күн бұрын
Her module makes her deal an additional 15% of damage as elemental damage to burnt enemies, which is where the extra damage comes from. As of right now, there are no enemies with elemental resistance, so it's basically true damage.
@rw6611
@rw6611 15 күн бұрын
Burn fallout reduces res by 20, does 7k elemental damage in one instance and lets her deal her own elemental damage. So yes when burn burst is applied it's massive difference.
@Khroniclas
@Khroniclas 15 күн бұрын
I thought Surtr was the big winner but looking at all these showcase Vivi prolly got the most improvement.
@hynex1886
@hynex1886 16 күн бұрын
I cant imagine if surtr get this module in the future with immortality talent upgrade
@Dr.Megumi
@Dr.Megumi 15 күн бұрын
No way
@bilatungdulang9708
@bilatungdulang9708 15 күн бұрын
HG really fix her
@steinsschrodinger8688
@steinsschrodinger8688 14 күн бұрын
We didnt get AoE Viviana but instead we get Tank Surtr
@jak4290
@jak4290 15 күн бұрын
No way they make burn without talulah
@hartoramasenju4012
@hartoramasenju4012 14 күн бұрын
I'd rather they give this module to Surtr, it fits her thematically and she benefit from the extra -20 res after burn proc better
@kyarumomochi5146
@kyarumomochi5146 16 күн бұрын
Overall good damage increase but her core problem isnt solved which is the downtime and being useless for 25 seconds between skill activations, it should have allowed to cycle faster into her skill
@Kaj-jl7er
@Kaj-jl7er 16 күн бұрын
Wisadel brainrot has reached to people that now they expect every op to have excellent off-skill DPS too, also how is she useless off-skill tho?, she can build-up burn dmg off-skill, so she can kill enemies faster during skill, and if she had triggered the burn dmg during skill then she can deal some respectable dmg to the enemy off-skill during the leftover duration edit: i just did the math and she can trigger burn dmg off-skill on a 70RES elite/normal enemy and a 50RES boss enemy
@mr.clevertrick8710
@mr.clevertrick8710 16 күн бұрын
The downtime is perfect. Makes for decent skill expression.
@kr4547
@kr4547 16 күн бұрын
At least her downtime is pretty low. Her skill cycles were always good and now she has impressive damage on skill. I think 25s skill cycle is pretty great actually, I mean even Vina has like a 50s cycle, sure it's a true damage skill but that's where I'd have issues with the downtime.
@kyarumomochi5146
@kyarumomochi5146 16 күн бұрын
@@Kaj-jl7er What? Dude her core problem had always been her 25 second downtime, it lead to her dying to elites she was supposed to kill. It was literally the reason she was regarded as mediocre. How did you include wis in this? Being a 1 block st unit with downtime isnt good. Simple as that
@kyarumomochi5146
@kyarumomochi5146 16 күн бұрын
@@Kaj-jl7er Also she is dying before she is getting the burn to proc on elite or boss enemies off skill, what are you on
@locthiennguyen
@locthiennguyen 16 күн бұрын
If only her s2 or s3 is an unlimited time skill
@Michael-zw3mr
@Michael-zw3mr 16 күн бұрын
Unfortunately mods can't upgrade skills as they can only upgrade talents
@0bscurelight689
@0bscurelight689 16 күн бұрын
@@Michael-zw3mr they can sorta buff skills, for example Shining with mod X gains 25% atk when equipped with S2 and +0,6 sp/s when equipped with S3. But that´s the extent they can go to, give additional effects based on the skill
@Michael-zw3mr
@Michael-zw3mr 16 күн бұрын
@@0bscurelight689 They could only buff small details of a skill, sure, but outright changing the duration or effects of a skill is impossible for a module to do, as of now at least, gotta wait for an alpha module to be released in 2026 lmao
@mr.clevertrick8710
@mr.clevertrick8710 16 күн бұрын
No you're just lazy. At least this will remain a good skill check.
@Michael-zw3mr
@Michael-zw3mr 16 күн бұрын
@@mr.clevertrick8710 that's a good point too since a few seconds of skill downtime balances out the busted elemental damage she deals with her skill uptime
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