Arlie Russell Hochschild | Stolen Pride and the Rise of the Right

[@mollyshredder]

She's got exceptional insight. She's brave to interview these folks. It's always important to have compassion for the folks who've been conned.

[@Nathan-in-Cwmbran]

@@mollyshredder I think most political parties have been guilty of "conning" the electorate in one way or another, and would suggest that more compassion is needed across the board.

[@mollyshredder]

@Nathan-in-Cwmbran for sure, but in this moment, one side is vulnerable. Democrats haven't always been in reality but now they r. Rs not so much right now. Hoping they can come back to reality and connect back to democracy and a plural society.

[@Nathan-in-Cwmbran]

@@mollyshredder At around 29:00, the author describes one of the people she interviewed as "neither Republican or Democrat, but could be a Democrat if they got things right" or words to that effect. I truly hope the U.S. can return to being a plural society, too, but the centre-right and centre-left must both confront reality and address what caused so many voters to turn away in the first place.

[@mollyshredder]

@@Nathan-in-Cwmbran since 2016, Democrats have been. Hopefully, when Trump loses big, there will be some introspection from GOP.

[@Nathan-in-Cwmbran]

@@mollyshredder I don't think the closeness of this year's election supports that at all. I wish it was different, but both parties are far from becoming realistic choices for Trump Vance supporters in the next few cycles.

[@DaveRowan-d7k]

Acting together when we dont think alike. Thx for all you do Arlie.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Glad that there are still people who do not indulge in cheap stereotypes when explaining "those people."

[@christopherwb1]

I laughed out loud when the gentleman said, "They're going to believe their experience, they're not going to believe the facts." And I should hope they would.

[@gregorysouthworth783]

Great video and loved the input. I am going to suggest a radical idea. We need to create means of collective ownership which involves communities and employees of companies of larger firms at local levels. It creates a system of economic input and wealth enhancement by giving real pride in the sense they own their experience and participate in its growth, and it transcends race, ethnicity, and class and yet respects it at the same time. Brothers and sisters in community. Short of that, we will all be Appalachia eventually.

[@Judihui12]

A question: What do Americans mean, when they talk about "hard work"? Like: if you earn 10 $ an hour you have to work ten hours to earn 100 $ in a day. Is that "hard work"? Or are 20 hours for 10 $ "hard work"? And how long can you do such "hard work" to strive until your burned out? Again: fighting social inequality to bring back the pride to people also depends on these factor of hourly wages. But what then do, if the people who would profit condemn this as "socialism" or "communism"?

[@christopherwb1]

Offer them good jobs that pay well. - that will bring back their pride in the healthiest way possible.

[@Judihui12]

Fighting Social Inequality is not only about the distribution of wealth in a more justice way, but to bring back the pride to people. But in the USA this is regarded as socialisms und communism - specially by those people who would profit from measures to raise their income and their wellbeing. So a solution would be to put the vier from political left and right aside and focus on the pride of the people. Pride is not a political term, it's a human and social term. And for those on the far right side: it's NOT socialism. It doesn't need that much to reach the goal: it helps the people that they don't have to turn every Dollar three times before they may spend it. That already would by a tremendous relief.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Wish we would drop the "good coal mining jobs" meme. Sure, wages were high for a brief period of time, but the work is dangerous, dirty, and demanding with more miners killed, maimed, or contracted major heath issues than glowing retirees, not to forget the ecological disasters around coal mines.

[@Nathan-in-Cwmbran]

@@hereigoagain5050 That is a very important observation. Here in the UK there is a frequent complaint about how "we don't make things anymore", which is itself factually incorrect, but there is seldom any recognition of how poor working conditions and benefits tended to be when manufacturing was a major part of the British economy.

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