Armin notices that Eren has changed about the Outside World S1-S3

[@MYGBalerion]

I miss annoying noisy eren , super excited armin , and background mikasa just being friends and have a good laugh 😭

[@jax5498]

Well, this ain’t Naruto, so Welcome to the real world

[@joacquinperez5593]

Their world isn't real too though

[@jm8837]

@@joacquinperez5593 but it's harsh too like our world.

[@Fawwaz-zk7ts]

@@jm8837 no...even harsher than our world...sure,our world still have hatred and racism again one race..but not to the point of almost everyone in the world want to exterminate one race and there's race that can turn into giant creature who devour people.Well, the rumbling threat is similar to nuclear threat in our world.But instead of becoming deterrence like in our world,their world want to do preemptive strike on paradis cause they can't have rumbling as their deterrence

[@Noctals]

@@Fawwaz-zk7ts ever heard of the uyghurs?

[@monkeydance3894]

This is special sort of pain. Watching a character be gradually, but completely broken

[@ttt5339dn]

he wants to be free and nothing can stop him, this is the best character developement ever

[@ttt5339dn]

@@xZyleux So how do you call Marley? people who just kill Eldians from centuries... They're all human, cruelty is part of this world, also it is part of humans, i remember you that a titan stopped the war (king Reiss), but he was also a titan Humanity doesn't exist in a world like aot's world, humanity can only be related by people of the same race or by different people who are under attack in order to survive. In fact, Eren loves Eldians (inside the walls) :0

[@ritameow9227]

@@xZyleux He was given the power of god, with all the anguish attached to it. In a way it’s the saddest thing in the world: to know what the world would come to and you can’t change anything without causing innumerable bloodshed

[@shawnd181]

He was always crazy

[@beastamaki7940]

@@ritameow9227 if it was the power of god then there would be more options than bloodshed. Its more of the power of the devil cause yoy are forced to do it

[@jaeger2780]

"When I learned there were people outside the wall, I was... Disappointed"

[@sakesithole6295]

I felt that

[@di-gun5791]

That's what I felt as a reader too.

[@JcCentral_]

Shit gon hit hard when it’s animated

[@user-ug2to5bo1q]

Not when he was talking to ramzi😭

[@maboigilgamesh3231]

@@JcCentral_every person in the world will be crying when they see that scene in anime

[@nazbee._]

I think its because hes finally knows the truth and reality has took a toll on him which is really sad:(((

[@kylejesus9271]

@CrazyDoughboy it's crazy when you think about it because from the looks of it the attack titan is timeless and hes been controlled or influenced by his future self ever since he received the power of the attack titan. So really almost everything was part of his plan.

[@Archonsx]

@@kylejesus9271 too bad time plots always suck and don’t make any sense whatsoever when you really think about it, but the idea is pretty cool

[@vboo6250]

@@Archonsx it makes enough sense you’re just overthinking

[@udaymuammar968]

@@kylejesus9271 Can Eren see the future?

[@0XIIIIII]

@@kylejesus9271 literally facts eren is the mastermind of eren

[@zharnia9695]

The best thing about Armin character is that he still able to maintain his humanity faith and naivety.

[@transient_moonlight]

Humanity? Yes. Naivete? Not at all.

[@kanpekiken2481]

Armin is the only one who seems to understand that you have to throw away humanity to get things done but he himself has trouble doing it

[@KUREIJIMAN]

@@pjma1059 nuking the coastline*

[@MA-yu2ss]

@@KUREIJIMAN and a large part of the city

[@KUREIJIMAN]

@@pjma1059 No, they still killed people regardless of race, age(armin's explosion), gender just to save Eren's ass

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

When Armin told Eren about the sea, he and Eren both believed that was as far as one could go, but as Eren grew up, he realized that there had to be something even beyond that, and the unknown is what took away his naive passion, and forced him to realize that the sea was not the end, and that there may be something more terrifying that lies beyond. Once he kissed Historia's hand, his greatest fears had come true.

[@getmoggged]

When he kissed Historia's hand he saw that he manipulated Grisha

[@dredevilhalo516]

@@getmoggged he?

[@simon2493]

@@dredevilhalo516 Yes he

[@getmoggged]

@@dredevilhalo516 the he is Eren

[@getmoggged]

@@dredevilhalo516 why are you trying to correct me bruh

[@the13thfreakishere]

This is just so sad, all this time Eren fought for the freedom in the outside world, only to find the ugliness of the outside world instead

[@xxjoannaj3980]

It's like growing up. Then you see the real world

[@RaymanMArenaCommunity]

It’s pretty much the same when you find out the truth in this world.

[@brettunderhile8162]

He never stopped fighting

[@zepnid9582]

@@RaymanMArenaCommunity well this world is way much better than the aot world

[@dinobutler4564]

@@zepnid9582 true legit almost everyone in the series is probably dying even Eren might die (everyone thinks so at least)

[@PainSandwhich]

YOOOO had Levi not eavesdropped for the sake of semi-witnessing what a genuine childhood was because he didnt have one, he wouldve injected Erwin immediately.

[@Vikas_Kumar_Singh]

Yeah aot reaaly tells all the characters in aot never get what they work for their whole life whether its Erwin failed to see the truth of walls or eren never getting his freedom

[@kitsunemackz8130]

You're wrong. Levi injected Armin because erwin wanted to be free and die finally. He made it clear in his last words to levi. Ofc what armin said influenced him a litte but it was ultimately what erwin said that pushed levi to inject armin

[@_tabsss._]

@Eris Socratou I agree. I remember once that Erwin said that the basement was more important than the fate of humanity, so instead Levi chose Armin

[@nagatoxpain4790]

@Eris Socratou Yet I think that if Erwin was alive he would suggest so many solutions to this whole war and also can control eren just like he did until the end. He died with glory but I still miss him so much at this point in manga.

[@tntsection1201]

@@_tabsss._ They made it pretty clear than Levi chose Armin instead of Erwin because Erwin didn’t want him to use it on him. That’s all there is. Nothing deeper than that y’know?

[@mjgamer55WotB]

His dream would’ve become reality. However, The closer he got to reality, the further away his dream became

[@devanshkumar3273]

@Aiden Jones he also wants to secure his tiny island from mean people

[@leeza4078]

dang this hurts so bad

[@jagrjr45]

So Close Yet So Far.

[@kakorotskywalker]

@Aiden doesn't take away the fact that he's a mass murderer. 😐😐😐

[@God_3712]

This is the best quote ever

[@mell9371]

The thing with this is that Armin's interest in the sea is different from Eren's. While Armin was curious on the outside world's existence and the knowledge it would give, Eren wasn’t focused on the outside world at all, but rather the freedom it symbolized. To him, it didn’t matter whether he'd really get to see the ocean or not, only that he had the freedom to do so. Looking back, you can actually notice a lot of moments near the end of season 3 where Armin begins to notice this difference in mindset, and Eren and Armin’s friendship begins to drift apart. Especially at the very last scene with the gang at the ocean, where Eren realizes that the ocean never gave him any freedom at all, and that the world was much bigger. Compare this to Armin, who had just arrived at the place of his dreams. His smile disappearing and his arms slowly dropping after it really sets in how different his ideology was compared to Eren. Though they both chased the ocean, Eren was looking at something else entirely.

[@patrickdonnelly88]

Damn.

[@wakeupsam]

Good observation. My thoughts differ, however. I think Eren's disinterest at the sea and his general attitude in that scene was more because of all the things he realised after kissing Historia's hand.

[@angelknives375]

@@wakeupsam agreed

[@bs6163]

I agree with your opinion, by the way curiously it is very similar to what Isayama mentioned in one of his interviews. Their views have always been different, Armin was genuinely curious to know the outside, however, Eren was disappointed and outraged by the fact that he was deprived of his freedom.

[@Tystolfo]

Best comment here, you perfectly captured Eren's thought process and his dream for freedom.

[@ines5321]

yknow what? this is the saddest shit ever...i didnt need this. The way the world broke him into pieces...I- I wanted character development not character slaughter

[@Pusingoding]

This is what author trying to tell that the reality is just bad irony. Just wait until the story finish we can really know what beyond that harsh reality

[@Hrishtam]

He has always been like this

[@nikey7988]

@@Pusingoding The author said he wanted it to not be a nice ending so don't get your hopes up. Though im not a manga reader, take it as you would

[@GingerBreadMan1178]

Yea, when i 1st watched this scene, this enlighten Eren reminds me of me already. So young and full of life until i found the real world. Just pure sadness and disappointment.

[@Yourmom294]

ok boomer

[@loneaquila]

Eren's development is a fine example of the saying, "Knowledge is a curse."

[@thegreatestnameever1415]

And ignorance is bliss

[@user-xh6ju3pg8c]

So they should have stayed inside walls and They will get eaten by titans and merely will win sthu

[@thegreatestnameever1415]

@@user-xh6ju3pg8c we're not saying that, it's just that neo also had some doubts about taking the red pill. But it was probably better for everyone that he did.

[@stonksofpotato7342]

@@user-xh6ju3pg8c The knowledge is still a curse for eren

[@user-xh6ju3pg8c]

@@stonksofpotato7342 no, if they didnt had the knowledge they would have still gotnkiller and knowldge is important for the plot now

[@chizknowsdabizyeet7609]

He thought he was trapped like cattle, when actually he was in paradise

[@youngodonkor6595]

Brooo that deep as fuck.

[@kakoulaki7704]

DAMNNNNNNNMM

[@randyquaid3381]

Ignorance is bliss

[@pooer382]

paradis

[@khapnr]

I just realized 0:03 is at the same time when Reiner swore to be a warrior and make his parents proud.

[@originated712]

Wait how do u know?

[@adityamandal9471]

@@originated712 is already shown on s4 e 3

[@originated712]

@@adityamandal9471 rlly? Ill have to rewatch that episode later I guess

[@mattoreo5854]

@@originated712 yeah once reiner does that it pans to the sky and shows moments right before this scene, and then cuts to the intro

[@joosemkc]

after the show end I will watch it again. And realize how amazing this anime was.

[@bion2884]

4:04 that's what I call a fake smile

[@ashna9225]

Yes true eren fake smile

[@jm8837]

Eren rarely smile and one of it had to be fake.

[@ぽーるもーる]

😬

[@kittykat248100]

the scene where eren talks about the outside world and freedom and it cuts to grisha's memories of his sister eaten by dogs..

[@johnortiz9789]

what episode is that one? the last of season 3?

[@backinmydaycartoons7957]

It’s mainly the fact that Eren has always mainly cared about freedom. He doesn’t care so much about what’s out there nearly as much as he’s annoyed he doesn’t have the right to experience it. And once he learns that it’s no longer a simple “bad” enemy that stands in his way, but millions of people, it absolutely crushes him. His goal is further away from him than he ever imagined it being, and this is more than saddening for him to hear.

[@fredy3037]

yeah, so much that he kills his own people for the freedom of his own enemies. this eren jaeger has gone completely mad.

[@backinmydaycartoons7957]

@@fredy3037 what events are we referring to here? I’m a manga reader so if you’re anime only, do keep that in mind here, but I can’t think of a single time Eren truly ever stopped fighting for his friends and began fighting for his enemies. It’s all long and convoluted of course, but Eren’s goal to give his friends freedom has always remained consistent.

[@fredy3037]

@@backinmydaycartoons7957 he doesn't have friends anymore, the anime hasn't finished but he completely ditched tf out of mikasa and armin. he told mikasa that she only wanted to be with eren because that was her nature, and that she accidentally got herself into protecting eren instead of the royal family (ackermans are used to protect the royals) and that the real mikasa inside her is fighting back the mikasa trying to protect eren. armin wasn't so happy, so he punches eren, but eren ends up beating up armin, resulting in the ends of their friendships. anyways, have you finished the manga? or have you skipped over the part about the rumbling?

[@backinmydaycartoons7957]

@@fredy3037 like I said, I’m a manga reader and I’ve finished the series, assuming you watched the ending I don’t see how you can’t see his actions as purely FOR his friends

[@spook6394]

I think he did at one point care about seeing the world. The very first scene, he was engaged with Armin about the book. That was their dream together. I believe Armin’s dream is what kickstarted his rage at being denied the freedom to pursue it. But it started with Armin’s dream.

[@michaelcarnevale5620]

eren - courage mikasa - strength armin - wisdom the triforce lol

[@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776]

Isabel-Eren Levi-Mikasa Farlan-Armin the former triforce lol

[@antoniovaccaro8538]

@@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776 😭

[@jazzy4164]

Erwin- Courage Levi-Power Hange-Wisdom

[@mohammedrihabshaikh4702]

eren is the combination of the three. The strongest being to exist in AOT, the greatest mastermind and the bravest of them all.

[@puturere]

Zelda?

[@biglion4631]

Not so fun fact: Armin’s parents were killed by the Military Police when they tried to go up the wall using a hot air balloon

[@ajaxoquaza]

Wait fr? Damn that’s interesting.

[@sauerkrautlanguage]

Oh fuck that was Armin's parents?? Plus his grandparents got killed too by the government. Armin has it really damn tough it's impressive how he manages to keep his ideals :c

[@JackHanma267]

Oh damn that’s cold

[@user-uz8oy2xb9t]

@@sauerkrautlanguage I think his grandpa died when the wall was destroyed and they sent refugees to take it back

[@biglion4631]

@@ajaxoquaza Yep, when Hange and Levi was interrogating that one MP dude, he said they stopped a teacher who knew too much (Erwin’s dad) A couple that was trying to fly off in the sky (Armin’s parents)

[@nowyouseemeboy]

Jesus Christ, Attack on Titan turned out ever more heartbreaking than we expected.

[@liz8986]

"The outside world wasn't like what i had imagine, it wasn't like the world i saw in armin's books.."

[@qassimmohd3179]

beacuse I was born in to this world

[@rmdhn1]

Because i'm gonna be the next hitler

[@tomislav7568]

@@rmdhn1 you are the chosen one

[@drewskiidrew6258]

I just thought about Eren's reaction in s4 when Willy said that, and he said it way in s1

[@josh-qj2zu]

We live in a society

[@Kirarandia]

@@rmdhn1 I understand where you are coming from, but I wouldn't put him in the same group as Hitler

[@royalwalnutbroth5664]

i heard somewhere that armin's parents who wanted to go outside the walls were the couple who built a hot air balloon but eventually assasinated by military police (season 3, story told during interrogation)

[@sherrymuhammad6914]

Yeah I saw that too

[@gregoryc6656]

No they werent im pretty sure its Stratmans daughter from the lost girls ova part 2

[@KaagKagamine5]

Yes, it is confirm Armin's parents were killed by the police while trying to run away on the balloon

[@gregoryc6656]

@@KaagKagamine5 no lol, just watch the lost girls ova

[@KaagKagamine5]

@@gregoryc6656 nope, actually some time around the Lost girls OVAs came out Isayama himself said that the couple killed by military (later referenced on S3) were Armin's parents. Not a gay couple, like it was theorised on Lost girls manga.

[@chargemanken144]

I think the ending would be Armin doing Eren's Masterplan. As I rewatch AoT there are a lot of subtle scenes where Eren always trust Armin's judgement. In S1, S2, and S3 there will always be a scene where Eren will ask and Trust Armin if I remember it correctly. He also told us in S3 that it is Armin that will save humanity and also being the most obvious one that Armin is the one narrating the whole series in a 3rd person view. That's just what I think.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

MANGA SPOILERS At this point in the manga, idk if Armin is the one who will kill Eren, but it seems to me that The Rumbling has all but succeeded and the Eldians will rule once again, which may just repeat the cycle when what's left of other races begin to reproduce and fear the titans/Eldians once more, leading to exactly what Eren was trying to avoid.

[@LyonsTheMad]

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 I'd edit your comment to hide it behind a "read more" and spoiler warnings, it sounds like he could be an anime only. Cheers!

[@phatboi3249]

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 eldians are going to be the only race after the rumbling.

[@bmona7550]

With Isayama as the author, you guys can't have absolute statements. Anything could happen at this point! It's better to expect a mixed ending where both sides gained and lost something, as it is in all out wars in general. He wanted to hurt readers. Having an ending none expected where both sides won something but at a cause fits that

[@nagatoxpain4790]

Spoilers!! I think falco will inherit erens titan as also shown in Ed of season 4 and he also had an flashback of the future in ep1 of s04 which means he will inherit founder and end this war and will be the new hellos who save the world from this bad guy eren I think that's how eren planned all of it to the end.

[@ceoofjeanneism6777]

Eren Yeager is one of the best anime protagonists

[@giupondchester1273]

He really is

[@yeetthetacoo4068]

And antagonists 🙃🙃🙃

[@tanymany19]

Whatever you say about Eren, there's no denying he loves Armin and Mikasa and everything he's doing even right now is so that they live.

[@kmsthanks]

Well in the manga its a little different

[@daryeusford9696]

@@kmsthanks not really. Everything he's doing or did was partly for them.

[@LucasPalma666]

No. Everything he's doing, he's doing so he can be the freest person. Even if it means killing those he love.

[@katsura2605]

@@LucasPalma666 yup this

[@qualix7]

@@LucasPalma666 I think you're overlooking how compassionate Eren is toward others. He's willing to put his life on the line for anyone's freedom, just like he did for Mikasa when they were children. He knew he could have died there. I think his plan is to commit the worst possible atrocity to unify the world and break the cycle of hate that created both he and Reiner, causing them both to be capable of such atrocities. But in doing so, he sacrifices EVERYTHING. His life, his friends, his humanity (by taking the role of genocidal monster himself).

[@yayomata512]

Attack on titan world reminds me so much of the real world including the characters . Back when i was still in middle school/ high school i couldn’t wait to be all grown up and get out this “cage” im in . Now that im all grown , I see how truly ugly the world really is and only wish to go back to my younger self in that “cage” when everything was much simpler and only had to worry about going to school and being with my friends

[@dr.user.]

true

[@raspyy259]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4i2g2Rtq6qJeNk Just watch this :)

[@voltrex7284]

I just realized broooo :O During Willy tyber's speech he says that the eldians ruled and when they ran out of enemies they started fighting among themselves. Now consider what eren is doing, Destroying the entire world so that the eldians won't have enemies wouldn't they start fighting among themselves again ?? A cycle of hatred

[@GingerBreadMan1178]

That's how life works. For example, racism. If aliens were to show up, humans would not be racist towards one another anymore but towards other "races", as in different species. It's just a society thing.

[@xdragoonzero0]

He's not destroying the world just because they're enemies, he's destroying it because they all want the Eldians gone. Even if the Eldians on the island start fighting amongst themselves at some point, that doesn't mean that they're going to try and completely genocide themselves.

[@indrajithlal6160]

they said the exact thing in the manga , kiyomi azumabito to flosch in chapter 128 "if you think Paradise island is safe with this" "you will just continue killing each other"...

[@ssaadd2845]

It all will be the same either way if Eren or alliance win, just like Grisha said he didn't knew which one he had to put blame, his stupidity or the cruelty of the aot's world.That's why it's almost impossible if we expect a happy ending because this isn't Naruto.

[@RaymanMArenaCommunity]

Hatred brings about hatred

[@HappinessYata]

Well the Eren from the beginning sounds like the grown up Eren

[@allahuakber552]

Yes actually he is never changed he is always like this

[@unknownsadfairy6741]

He hitted pubrety at 9

[@amberxv4777]

Yup. He always had a screw loose in his brain. People just never noticed

[@WhiteSage2]

@@amberxv4777 I agree, and they did notice but because eren helped push their own dreams they didnt care until later on. But I'm not going to spoil anything

[@amberxv4777]

@@WhiteSage2 it's alright. I'm read the manga and true they do notice in s4, but just after it's too late. Lol.

[@georgesewell3936]

Whilst Eren grew and developed his core motivation never changed- to understand this is to understand an important distinction between Eren and Armim, which is their drive to go beyond the wall. Armin, who is a curious bookworm wants to go outside to see the natural wonders of the world, whilst Eren wants to go outside for the sake of freedom. He doesn't care about lakes of salt or mountains of fire- but he knows they exist and knows that he and everyone else deserve the chance to see them. The scene at the end of s3 shows this beautifully, with Armin showing Eren the shell only for him to totally ignore him and focus on what's past the sea.

[@ndjdjdj986]

It’s so sad watching him lose himself

[@khiewqixuan9760]

It's so sad watching him find himself*

[@RaymanMArenaCommunity]

Khiew Qi Xuan exactly

[@vince7520]

You don't understand Eren Yeager. He was and he is always the same. He find himself now

[@macav6274]

@@vince7520 i respect your opinion, but personally, i don't think he has always been like this, how i see it is that he always has been prone to become the character he is now, taking in account his tendency towards dehumanization and violence. What I'm trying to say is that what we perceive as bad in him is conduct that was probably latent in him but that he wouldn't have used in an environment where he wasn't forced to learn it as a way of survival (which I'm not saying is good but that's what he thinks). this has repeatedly been reinforced by his experiences, and it went like a snow ball. People usually don't perceive the change until it's already done, just as what happened with eren and armin. I don't know if this makes any sense xd

[@Mobshigeo04]

@@khiewqixuan9760 😂the anime onlys gonna think he gone crazy until certain scenes later in the season

[@MiguelAngel-qi3ul]

Eren then: I wanna explore the outside world with my friends. Eren now: I wanna destroy the outside world for my friends.

[@ajja2387]

I think it’s just the slow realization of the future memories from história capped with the unwillingness to even give paradis a chance and his feelings for mikasa all made eren realize he has to make this sacrifice to protect them

[@jm8837]

Is it only just kiss on Historia that will work in order for Eren to get that memories or even a touch on her can do? because I wonder what will happen if he'd kiss her or something early in the season

[@ScrodumHat]

@@jm8837 it’s likely just some form of touch because he awakened the power of the co-ordinate when he punched the pure titan who has royal blood, it’s more or less the same case with memories

[@redstream2.017]

What if grisha gave armins parents the book...

[@JuliettKilo]

What if Eren...

[@thedudewhoes5542]

@@JuliettKilo Roruzo

[@davidtu3045]

@@JuliettKilo bruh

[@dallama2616]

but Grisha probably didn't have a book on him when he got transformed into a pure titan so when could he have gotten it?

[@graciasmiura8594]

@@dallama2616 maybe he drew and wrote it, or maybe eren did

[@fingolfin7295]

If even after this, you still think that what motivated Eren was simply the hatred for the titans, then you will never understand him. For he hasn't changed. He only got more mature. And that inevitably takes away the bright in his eyes.

[@drp7751]

Well becoming mature also counted as a change, the topic of change is subjective it could be diffrent for every person as for you change is complete change in personalty or type and aspects like maturity and experience are subsets while in my point of view change is learning from your mistakes thus maturity is a big change for me

[@fingolfin7295]

@@drp7751 the essence of his character remains the same. If you wanna keep overrationalizing something simple to grasp on it's own, whatever.

[@drp7751]

@@fingolfin7295 bro I think you didn't quiet get my comment , I wanted do say that diffrent people see diffrent things as change , like you say he hasn't change because his character assets remain the same and he gained experience over it But in my opinion his character is more changed than developed, earlier he was only focused on what's in front of him instead what's ahead but now he knows that's everyone is right in their own way or reason, he doesn't even say that he is correct he just counters the opposition's argument by twisting it that's contrast to that when he was tied to judgement in season one , he couldn't even argue with the opposition's POV and just blurt out his own condition I know what you mean by that the essence is same , but he have changed if you see from other point of view like eren did

[@MattGarcyaDC]

How has he not changed? Should I just wait till the manga gets animated

[@slowshak3194]

Eren just wants to be free, and he realizes step after step that it will never end, except if he destroys all his enemies

[@melodypond9471]

Armin is so gentle and caring towards his friends, it's one of the sweetest things too me about his character

[@katalyst_]

"Because i was born into this world." Goosebumps and chills. Erens goated.

[@jojo_hendriks]

Few years later: Wanna commit warcrimes?

[@nandanjena9329]

Best line of all time :"Because I was born into this world" Mr freedom was always about being the most free person in the whole world.

[@jollygirl94]

The sea used to be where Kids can hang out and enjoy. Eren: this is where my people were turned into Titans and thrown overboard by the Marleys. Such cruel fate I must start the rumbling.

[@abhayr99]

Unless the owl starts this cycle, armin and mikasa would not exist, eren's father would not come inside walls, eren would not save mikasa, eren would not save armin, marleyans would succeed in taking the founder and rule would go on as it is, attack titan changed this by giving them a chance to fight for freedom. Eren is doing everything in his power to save the past he has lived until now with his friends, inside the walls.

[@madeintyo7021]

The Attack titan really is special and I don't think there's anyone else who would've been a better fit than Eren

[@mak_4736]

"but my mom and dad say they re going beyond the walls soon" And in s3 epi 2 we see military police catching them while they are trying to fly in a balloon

[@sukai3582]

EP?

[@mak_4736]

@@sukai3582 episode 2 of s3 part 1 (i got it wrong in the original comment) when hange is interrogating the military police guy, there is a flashback

[@polaris1885]

Armin thought eren sees the same thing he sees but actually what eren sees is freedom ahead. Which he didn't get it. :(

[@erenyeager9851]

Sometimes I think that attack on titan was made to show people why you shouldnt take the outside world and life for granted.

[@mikethe2nd890]

He didn't change, he was just disappointed..

[@d1egomon194]

Very disappointed

[@lunaticxr123]

I never really realized that the government was suppressing knowledge about the outside world. I assumed it was because it was far too dangerous to venture out of the walls and nobody knew.

[@qualix7]

Paradis was an oppressive and sinister world, actually, if you ask me.

[@Josh-oj9mm]

Probably a mix of both

[@adhamcraft]

3:53 this scene is very similar to the one when Berthold said to riener "riener lets go and see our hometown now"

[@crescentmoondriver4343]

3:10 oh shoot those are the exact same words Willy said! So thats why Eren's eyes changed when Willy said that.

[@antoniovaccaro8538]

That surely isn't a coincidence

[@jm8837]

Carla also said that right?

[@jadeyoon5787]

Ahh, I really miss Armin and Eren just talking about the sea and just being the best buds they were. Now from what is happening, I don't think things will come back to normal again. Even on one interview from Isayama, he told that Armin and Eren's relationship isn't something that is permanent. They were bound to be friends and bound to separate eventually... this is such a pain. damn.... this story is seriously so good..

[@Drunklotus]

“Why? Because I was born into this world!” Is one of my favorite lines

[@kingofhearts642]

knowing what happens later, Eren's last line of that scene is so chilling. "If we kill every last one of our enemies out there, will we finally be free then?"

[@irenicrose]

I wonder if eren is trying to stop his suffering in a never ending timeloop

[@Drstrange3000]

That is interesting since he woke up crying from a dream in episode 1. It looked kind of like a time loop.

[@Lightingdragon777]

becoming depressed because you know what is to come...

[@jeanius8831]

it comes in stages for me 💀 spoiled myself and became depressed and was fine but then read the manga and became depressed again. i’m not prepared to see all that shit animated plus the ending

[@griffincrump5077]

It just shows how amazing the writing of attack on Titan is, when Reiner and Bertholt transformation I was genuinely saddened knowing that their friendship and camaraderie would never again be the same and when Eren went off on his own and we found out just how that happened it really felt like the friendship that I had believed in and felt through those characters had vanished. Eren’s turn to extremism was set up from the start and has more impact than just about every other show can pack into a season.

[@-thatcholoboy-2652]

That's crazy. The main reason he changed is because he saw his future and saw that he's the one that manipulated grisha this whole time and that he was going to do the rumbling inevitably. This whole story is a masterpiece

[@Enra000]

looking at back at this when you're catching up to the manga, it's just super sad i can't bear it...

[@CuppoJoe_]

Really small plot hole i noticed: The scouts never really used the idea of a hot air balloon, even after the fake government was taken down. Titans are mainly land creatures, so looking around past the walls should be way easier and safer with a controlled balloon.

[@Ace-tq9kr]

You're forgetting that the fake government never wanted them to get far. And im pretty sure they hid the entire concept of air ballons from the public. So the scouts could never find that out.

[@ms.pirate]

And less horses killed 😭

[@emick7488]

09-04-21 " Fly High Eren You are Free Now" 🕊

[@itadoriyuji4759]

4:12 mikasa is fcking cuteeeeee I mean we all have our own language and topics only known by us and the best friend. Eren and armin are literally doing that stuff and mikasa be like "ah here we go talking about some random shit that I don't know again"

[@TheGameFans15]

He knows the future and the past

[@GingerBreadMan1178]

Yes and so does the predecessors of the founding titan, thus they didn't do jack shit.

[@deleted2423]

0:43 The moment Eren fell in love with Armin’s eyes

[@Mawhinz]

No

[@deleted2423]

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[@Rwrft5]

*Don't*

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[@milkboy2228]

He never changed

[@markyy7655]

True, they just never really knew who he really is

[@drp7751]

Nah I think he changed, I could say that till season 3 he was the same but at season 4 he changed because he left his naive nature and vegans understand what has to be done because skill set and strength was never his piece of cake, well change also depends on you perspective of change

[@antoniovaccaro8538]

@@drp7751 I total agree with your last sentence. If he had known it all from beginning, he would have been the 4th season Eren in the 1st season. He hasn't changed his way of thinking. Surely he changed if we talk about experience and tactics, but he still a dumbass as always but knows few more thing (he doesn't like)

[@amberxv4777]

Agreed he was always crazy. That's why he's been categorized as anti-hero since the beginning. He saw the world in black and white and kept seeing it this way.

[@giupondchester1273]

Alternative title: watching Eren getting gradual depression

[@nnh0776]

3:11 nobody ever talks ab how sick this is

[@Taib-Atte]

It’s awesome how Eren was searching for freedom from the start. When armin opened the book he saw that there was more out there, but he never expressed specific interest in the sea or desert or lava or anything. He just fought for freedom. It’s incredible to see armin slowly realize that Eren never cared about the sights. He just wanted to destroy all of the walls in the world, no matter the shape or size, and no matter why they are there. Eren took so many L’s his whole life, he was simply tired of being what the world allowed him to be. He wasn’t fighting for humanity or for his mother or even because he hated the titans, he was fighting for himself. At this point he’s basically telling all his friends “you’re cool, I won’t hurt you guys” but he doesn’t really care about how they feel at all. What an incredible character. He’s always been a psychopath, but just lived his life the way society taught him because it was good enough. His transformation into a Titan was the catalyst which would allow him to quit neglecting what he desired most in life and actually move forward toward fulfilling those desires. Everyone else saw it as an opportunity to fight back against the titans, but he was already thinking bigger. He only got angrier as the series progressed as his rise wasn’t as easy as he thought his abilities would allow. Still, he worked hard, and kept his head facing forward toward each next step. He thought that if he reached the sea he could be free, but in truth his battle wasn’t over. So he began a plan instead of rushing into everything headfirst like he used to. This time, he would destroy all of his enemies once and for all with the rumbling.

[@Chook181]

This is unironically heartbreaking.

[@stantwitter1016]

I hate it, and this is so sad as well, but this is exactly why AoT is one of my favourite anime ever. The realistic aspects on character development is terrifyingly hits close to home.

[@plplkpok]

"Because i was born into this world" i didn't expect for this line to be so important given what's going on currently

[@senkyuchrome5199]

Who’s here after reading the final chapter?

[@zynpkrdg]

When I said I love character developments, this wasn't what I meant.

[@theworldofgame3743]

Season 4 :Eren can see everything ,eren control eren ,his father ,his brother.

[@lubu2960]

The author talked about how they both differ in their view of the outside world. Armin is fascinated with the outside world and he wants to see it. Eren doesn't really care about the real world, he just finds disgusting the thought that he can't see it due to the Titans.

[@haniya3499]

it's insane how different he is and how much he manipulated himself in the end i just miss it all so much

[@asturianix9820]

One of the best things in this story is how a heroic ambition is turned into an insane and hateful obsession.

[@drewfiji8845]

The outside world... was even greater hatred. Eren must be disappointed

[@P-K-B]

Isayama is the real demon......

[@jotakyininoo2758]

Safe to say, eren gives zero shits about this sea that occupies 99% of armins brain

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Wow, this was actually really sad...

[@asims1988]

Reality is often disappointing - Thanos

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

Reality can be whatever I want - Thanos

[@zedxsmurf124]

The blanket is his comfort area but he woke up and left the area and his family is became a dust because he chosed the freedom not family

[@RaymanMArenaCommunity]

You can only obtain true freedom when you let go of everything you love

[@freshjuice1119]

3:12 When you notice Eren said the said the same line to Zeke in S4

[@lizz6387]

Did anyone else notice after Eren saw the memories of past users, his eyes would occasionally turn blue?

[@s4m1r_65]

When you realize attack on titan is a villain's origin story 😢 he is a broken hero commiting more and more heinous crimes

[@daryeusford9696]

He was never a hero, nor a villain. His character is more deeper then that. All this time he was looking for freedom while the only thing he found was hell.

[@sudarshant8783]

@@daryeusford9696 and he will move forward.

[@daryeusford9696]

@@sudarshant8783 at all cost💯

[@NokuKuNSensei]

That day, armin awake a monster

[@lewiss1773]

1:48 This titan would have both attack titan and founding titan if he didn't forget to fucking chew

[@aidanochoa6800]

Wow, nice observation

[@user-su8nd8ee9c]

It's sad to know that Eren just ain't the same person i used to idolize when i was a kid. He's a completely different man. I mean i SERIOUSLY, don't know who he is. It's like they changed his character completely, no gradual change or anything.

[@leeleelee7878]

He just isn't the same anymore after him kissing historia's hand, he saw through all the ugliness and cruelty outside the walls from the memories and future

[@sydrian2892]

It's apparently ymir controlling him since he has the founding titan, we have a few more episodes before anything really happens and as a anime and manga reader something big is about to happen soon.

[@daryeusford9696]

@@sydrian2892 that's never been proven. Until it does everything that eren did was all from eren.

[@ozi3865]

You just never understood Eren if you're unable to see his character progression.

[@leeleelee7878]

@@ozi3865 If he thinks that character progression must be about heading towards the morally bright direction to be considered one or becoming a morally better person, then its a sad case

[@nihaalsandim9986]

Man .... someone just give eren a hug , read him a story , sing some songs , get him laid , make him happy .......then fucking eat him. Let him rest and be relieved of all his pain .

[@agneyafire5363]

Levi must had a Deja Vu of him Isabel and forlan.🙁

[@rohakgupta6280]

armin: I like the ocean armin s4: blows up the ocean

[@Lil_Thiccy]

Damn I didn’t even notice armin knew that he slowly fell out of love for the wonders of the world. Armin tried to motivate him again but eren knew that enemies were at the end of the sea...

[@tamara.mw.]

God this is heartbreaking.. why did it have to come to this :(

[@ghoulage]

I think something else that's important, is that Eren always wanted to believe that the ocean would symbolise their freedom. However, he doesn't get to see the ocean for the first time with Armin. Armin gets to see it with all of his friends, and enjoy the beauty of it. Eren saw the ocean one year earlier, in the memories of his father. In this memory, he watched Krueger murder soldiers, and watched the ocean swallow up their bodies as though they never existed. Eren doesn't see the ocean as a symbol of freedom after that. He just sees the ocean as another cruel thing in their world. Eren doesn't even get to fulfil that dream, of seeing the ocean for the first time himself. It's taken away from him, and replaced with someone else's memory of it. Just a really cruel moment. And throughout that arc, the question 'What will you do once you've achieved your dream' is asked. Eren's dream is stolen from him, but it is achieved, and after that, he kisses Historia's hand..... He doesn't even get to decide what he'll do, he's already seen it.

[@kalvinshepherd3424]

Team Eren still😔they really dont know the real story and the cost if they did they might've felt different but still love my scouts too and my Queen Mikasa😥

[@ranavantaepurple7856]

I miss the old armin and eren, I came here after their fight:(((

[@luistheugliestdude1909]

0:51 *outside worl*

[@adamapa992]

He waited his whole life to go outside the walls just to get there and realize that outside the walls hated his whole existence. Sht heartbreaking

[@ADI-i3d3y]

Back then when aot was about rage . Now it has developed into a war drama series with broken characters

[@bbbionman]

"because i was born into this world" gets me everytime

[@dr.user.]

eren is just a miserable broken teen that thrives to ne free his whole life all he wanted was to live peacefully with mikasa and armin and the rest of his friends.... TT

[@boltmarksman488]

Don’t forget when Armin felt guilty about being chosen over Erwin, Eren tried to comfort him by keeping him hopeful about the sea. Then Eren remembered there was another hellish nightmare beyond the horizon :(