ARMOR DETAIL SUPPLY GHOST - MISTAKES WERE MADE - FOLLOW UP AND RE-DO

[@ChiGalKMcAcura]

Not the Chupacabra😂Appreciate the follow up so I’ll know exactly what to do.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@ChiGalKMcAcura hehehe, you’ll love how ghost looks 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 yeah this video’s audio kicked my butt…mistakes were made all around 😆😆😆

[@debtennis1301]

Thanks for the video! I am planning on applying Ghost this weekend and will use your advice for sure!!

[@FrankoDetails]

@@debtennis1301 thank you!!! yeah as long as you prep properly you won’t have any problems!!! ✌🏽🐿️💨

[@gregsullivan7408]

Thanks. I had the same problems with Optimum TPC. I'm going to stick with standard dressings.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@gregsullivan7408 👍🏽 absolutely!!! what’s your dressing of choice? me personally my favorite is adams graphene tire dressing, that stuff is great and i don’t have to order it from a detailing site online. it’s readily available at my local autozone. i’m actually really liking the undressed tire look these days, just recently been trying it out

[@klasseact6663]

ADS Tire+ dressing is really, REALLY awesome📣📣

[@golf007sd2]

My choice for addressing my tire and wheels once every 1.5-2 months: CarPro ReTyre for cleaning the tire; CarPro Darkside for the tire dressing; Koch-chemie Magic Wheel Cleaner. Normal weekly wash nothing but P&S Brake Buster. Never have I had to spend the amount of time you did on my tires. I bet you spend well over an hours address all 4 tire given the deep cleaning you did. Hope it all works out amigo.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@golf007sd2 in truth just under an hour, getting the first round of ghost off took way longer than my usual process of course. a lot of people have recommended retyre and kcx mwc but that dark fury is a beast (first time using it) darkside is my favorite and for a regular tire dressing adams graphene tire dressing gets it done for me every time. like i said in the video that undressed was probably still lingering and causing all the problems but live and learn, record it and post it on youtube 😜

[@Bruces-Garage]

Thanks for sharing your experience and updating. I tend to only use one product (for cleaning prior to demo) so it's easier to identify any issues - I also try to use the same brand of cleaner. But---I think you are giving real world experiences where not everyone uses the exact same thing that the supplier recommends. I have used Gyeon Tire Cleaner and it works really well. DJ and Bradley from ADS are the best!

[@FrankoDetails]

@@Bruces-Garage as always thanks for the support and yeah there was definitely a “devil” in this detail 😜 the next day after this go round the tires looked amazing, i really think the undressed not being fully rinsed off was the culprit on the first video 😜

[@Ecdetails]

Wild that it peeled off lord

[@FrankoDetails]

@@Ecdetails my dude it was like they had bad sunburn! had some tire flavored chicharrones to snack on though, so not a complete loss 😆🐿️💨

[@Mr.SparkleOG]

​@@FrankoDetails Mmmm my favorite snack!!! 🤤

[@FrankoDetails]

@@Mr.SparkleOG 😆🛞🐖

[@MikeGDetailing]

I have seen this happen and have experienced with tire coatings. There could be a couple things that attribute to this. One thing is if the tires are new then they tend to have that mold wax release which takes more effort to remove it besides a tire cleaner such Stoners Tarminator and the mold wax release tends to keep coming out for a few weeks. For this it is recommended from experience to just clean the tires on a weekly basis for 3-4 weeks and do not dress them until that time. Secondly if the tires were dressed recently and often, it does have the ability to penetrate into the tire. So even though we think it is clean there is still tire dressing that leaches out to the surface after driving. Stoners Tarminator can help and it maybe a good idea to use a panel wipe as a last resort for that final wipe. This can be the downside to going to a tire coating and Ghost looks like it behaves like a tire coating. I have not used it just yet so I can't clearly say that. But McKee's Tire Coating and Tuf Shine Tire Coating are two examples of acrylic tire coatings that go from blue to clear. I suspect one of these two happened to you. #pinchechupacabra

[@FrankoDetails]

@@MikeGDetailing oh yeah the tires have been cleaned and dressed on a regular basis, in this situation i don’t believe the tires are brand brand new, although it’s a 2023 we bought it used and those should be the tires that came on it originally. i definitely learned an important lesson in that i should have a dedicated tire cleaner in my arsenal that’s for sure. dark fury was great although going forward i’ll be cautious with it. the eulex wipe down seems to do the trick but i’ll only be using that as a final prep for stronger tire sealants and not regular dressings. besides koch chemie’s eulex i’ll definitely look into that tarminator, thanks for the heads up you tha man! 😎🐿️💨

[@ElsaHernandez-t2r]

I just love watching and listening to you!!! I love you so much!!

[@FrankoDetails]

@@ElsaHernandez-t2r hehehehe…💚mama💚 love you!!! lol did you finally subscribe 😆😆😆

[@klasseact6663]

I had the same thing happen to me with Optimum tire coating bit it was much worse, they actually turned this beige/gold color💀 I'm glad ADS sorted it all out, it's what they do because someone ALWAYS gets back to my emails quickly, even on the weekend👍👍

[@FrankoDetails]

yeah even though i got my problem with this sealant figured out i think i’ll stick to regular dressing here and there, im really liking the no dressing look 😜

[@jaydailydetailer]

Adams makes a great tire and wheel cleaner, it’s my go to. I usually clean with acid 10:1 for wheels and then foam with Adams 3:1 to get wheels tires and fender liners cleaned.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@jaydailydetailer right on! i haven’t messed with wheel acid yet, but adams is great…i’m not real big on cleaning fender liners but having a good acid on hand when i do is a good tip…i’ll have to try it out 🤘🏽🐿️💨

[@DetailsNMe]

La Llorona lol you cried like she does during this experience!!?? Thank you for logging real life in detailing -not everything always goes as planned-you and DJ handled it like champs!!

[@FrankoDetails]

@@DetailsNMe lol…yeah dj’s the man! i had problems with the tires the first time, then i had audio problems with the edit on the second video…hopefully there won’t be any more devils to plague me!!! 🙏🏽🐿️💨

[@FrankoDetails]

@@DetailsNMe oh snap, yeah you ran into that issue with your dads rim, black magic wheel cleaner maybe? yeah wether it’s user or product error we gotta let ‘em know what’s up ✌🏽🐿️💨

[@MikeKaufman-d7n]

Looking forward to seeing next follow up. Planned on trying it soon with all clean as the cleaner. Tires have only have DIY dressing on them

[@FrankoDetails]

@@MikeKaufman-d7n yo kaufman! yes’r ghost is amazing i just had bad luck the first go around. this time everything was great, today the tires looked amazing. next follow up should be me cleaning the wheels with just a rinse from my pressure washer 👍🏽🐿️💨

[@MikeKaufman-d7n]

@@FrankoDetails Awesome Franko!

[@FineDetailingAZ]

My man said, chupacabra! 😂😂 I'd say more like el cucuy 👹

[@FrankoDetails]

@@FineDetailingAZ lmao! bro that’s the one i was thinking of 😆😆😳😆😆

[@serranosmobile]

Which shoes are these?

[@FrankoDetails]

@@serranosmobile those are the brooks hyperion, i normally buy the brooks ghost, but these hyperion’s are great 👍🏽🐿️💨

[@serranosmobile]

@@FrankoDetails looking into these

[@joevanseeters2873]

I had the exact same thing happen to my tires when I applied Optimum Tire Sealant (with the same blue hue in their own formula at the time, which makes me think the "blue hue" in the formula is some sort of chemical ingredient that gives the longer durability). It may have been residual product left behind as you stated because the same exact thing happened to me and I swore I would never use the crappy product again! Well, it wasn't a crappy product, but probably my own inefficiency in prepping the tire thoroughly. It might have had something going on on the tire rubber itself??? Not really sure, but it's very interesting that the same thing (and almost the exact same look) with that flaking and rust colored look you had here in your pictures. I do know that it took me a lot of work to correct the problem! A LOT. I essentially had to attempt to strip off the product, which was a nightmare. Whenever using a longer term tire rubber sealant, the only advice I can give anyone reading this or looking at this video, is before applying these long term tire dressing products is CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN the tire rubber the best you can do. If you THINK the tire rubber is clean, it's probably not, make sure you clean it again, three to four more times. It's a pain in the butt and it certainly takes longer to prep the tires than when using normal tire dressings (which are far more forgiving to layering or having old residue product still on the tire) but it's the only way you will get a nice uniform appearance and will allow the product to work as the makers intended it to look on the tire surface. I know people say to look for "white foam" or white bubbles as an indication as the tire rubber surface as being clean, but that isn't always a good indication either. I also used Odorless Mineral Spirits purchased at Lowes, and I recommend its use to anyone applying a new type dressing for the first time, USE MINERAL SPIRITS after the fourth or fifth time of using a high alkaline cleaning chemical or specific tire prep product. CLEAN, CLEAN, and CLEAN AGAIN! That's really the only advice I would give someone based on my own experience with these higher longevity tire dressings. Mineral Spirits are a good option to remove any traces of previous cleaning products. If you haven't tried odorless mineral spirits as your final wipedown on the tires, give it a shot, it works pretty well and I have never had a problem with it damaging the tires at all. One company that makes a really good tire cleaner (heavy duty one) is TUF SHINE TIRE CLEANER. It's a tire cleaner and prep made by TUF SHINE, who were one of the first companies to release one of the longer durability tire dressings many years ago. It's quite a bit stronger than most tire cleaners you can buy at Wal Mart or the big box and Auto parts stores. Autogeek sells it and I am sure it's available at other sites as well. I had pretty good luck with it. There are many other good tire rubber cleaners out there now days also as many more have been released since. Re-Tyre is another one from CarPro that's pretty good. Superclean is good for a cheap price, but just use it neat (Straight, with no dilution) for the best results for a good clean. I currently use DARKSIDE as my dressing and I have had no problems whatsoever with Darkside, even layering it after several wash sessions to "refresh" the appearance. The PREP is not a problem at all with Darkside either, nothing like it was when I used the Optimum Tire Sealant (with the blue hue). Just use RE-TYRE or a the TUF SHINE tire cleaner I mentioned a couple times on the tire, rinse well, and you will probably have a great user experience and a new favorite tire dressing that lasts and lasts compared to normal water based dressings.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@joevanseeters2873 lol…well said brother! thank you for the support and also helping anyone else who may read this 🙏🏽🐿️💨

[@Turbo6Detail]

Sometimes, tires are just not right. I initially was going to put Ghost on a car but after several rounds of strong tire cleaner, browning was still coming out heavy. No matter what I did, it never got clean so I said screw it, put on Tire+ and finished out the job. For those tires, something was off. Tires are complex and go through a lot of physical and chemical processes to get manufactured. Sometimes this stuff just happens. Great video nonetheless! DJ and Bradley are awesome guys.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@Turbo6Detail it turned out great this time for sure, i really believe the undressed wasn’t rinsed off completely and fought the ghost. it was a pain 😜 and absolutely the guys at ads are freakin great 🤘🏽🐿️💨

[@RCdetails203]

Wow hope u have better luck this time around , got my bottle of ghost yesterday haven’t used it yet, personally I’ve been using ADS’s tire cleaner for the past like 5 months and it’s so stout and foams up so nice, I buy the gallon and dilute 2:1

[@FrankoDetails]

@@RCdetails203 oh yeah 👍🏽 the next day it looked great … yeah that dark fury and gyeon tire cleaner came in clutch this time. 😜🐿️💨

[@RCdetails203]

@@FrankoDetails what did u dilute the dark fury at ? I never get dark fury to foam up on tires unless I dunk my tire brush into my wheel bucket

[@FrankoDetails]

@@RCdetails203 that was the first time i used it so i went with 4:1 in a 16oz bottle…i only used 4 sprays per tire, a couple of extra on the last tire that i video’d. i think it was foaming because i had the brush in my other hand and right as i sprayed it i immediately hit it with the brush 😜🐿️💨

[@RCdetails203]

@@FrankoDetails ya must be why cause same dilution and same brush I use lol

[@juliovasquez8530]

Same thing happened to me using Exoforma Permashine. Seems to be similar formula with the same blue hue when applied.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@juliovasquez8530 yeah i think its an acrylic 😜

[@juliovasquez8530]

@@FrankoDetails Thanks! I’m not a detailer so I didn’t really do my research. Just tired of the tire slinging and looking for something better.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@juliovasquez8530 oh yeah as long as you prep the tire properly you absolutely can’t go wrong with ads ghost ✌🏽

[@serranosmobile]

I got tired watching this wheel cleaning 😅😅😅😅😅 6:21

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Another with Casper😜😜😜

[@FrankoDetails]

well i got the audio synced but now it sounds horrible, hopefully it’s just a processing issue and it’ll even out proper 😜🐿️💨

[@davidnuxoll7074]

A hack Instsrted doing lately on my truck tire is to use a dry magic eraser spray product into magic eraser and wipe down tire dry then start your normal tire cleaning process. For me brake buster Isn’t strong enough. I clean my truck weekly and BB takes more time do to more passes. Magic eraser is abrasive enough and material soaks up gunk at the same time. I have nobby Offroad AT tires so it’s a chore to clean and prep.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@davidnuxoll7074 yeah big tires are a pain, but i’ve always had good luck with brake buster. dwell time is the secret with that one, i’ll apply and scrub it down on the rubber and let it dwell on the tire while i clean the rim by the time i’m done there’s no need for a second pass fo sho! … this one was me using undressed and i’m certain i didn’t neutralize and or rinse it off completely thus causing problems with the ghost 😜

[@davidnuxoll7074]

@@FrankoDetails I’ve done the other way, as long as I can get a week or two I’m happy. Everyone wants durability but don’t realize the pain it is to keep clean or remove. Shorter duration easier to remove and start fresh so I’m that way now.

[@epap1375]

Try out Carpro Retyre. I used it after 2 rounds of brake buster and the amount of gunk it still pulled off was insane. Finish it up with mineral spirits to remove any surfactants and they will be perfectly clean

[@FrankoDetails]

@@epap1375 yo e-pap ✌🏽 nice!!! yeah brake buster will always be one of my favs, but that gyeon tire cleaner is the first actual tire cleaner i’ve bought and it was great and smelled good too. dark fury is the perfect name for dark fury, that’s also the 1st time i tried that. i can’t wait to use it more, of course being cautious with it 😜🐿️💨

[@davidnuxoll7074]

@@epap1375 Turtle wax hybrid solutions wheel and tire or Adam’s wheel and tire are just as powerful as Retyre but cheaper.

[@Badeau68]

How did you like the dark fury?

[@FrankoDetails]

@@Badeau68 dark fury was great, i bought the 16oz from amazon to try it out, i should’ve bought the gallon. i had it diluted 4:1 ✌🏽🐿️💨

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

Looks like dust hit the tyre dressing while it was still curing.

[@FrankoDetails]

the crazy thing is that for the 6 hours that it sat and cured they looked amazing. the browning from the dust had to have come from the rust that settles on the brake rotor, after driving to and from work we believe that’s what settled on the tires, that did rinse off but after the rinse we could see that the ghost didn’t adhere properly, thus the re-do 😜 none of the products performed poorly i just have to change the order that i use them 🤘🏽🐿️💨

[@britishrocklovingyank3491]

What do you have under your tires to get them off the ground?

[@FrankoDetails]

@@britishrocklovingyank3491 hey hey, those are those swiss trax garage floor tiles, i bought 4 of them $9.00 dollars each with the ramp edges at $3.39 each. they are exactly 3/4 of an inch in height, been testing them out as a more permanent solution to making wood ramps out of 2x8’s or 2x10’s which are 1 and 3/4 in height. so far i’m liking them but a bit more height would be nice 👍🏽🐿️💨

[@britishrocklovingyank3491]

@@FrankoDetails Thank you!

[@FrankoDetails]

@@britishrocklovingyank3491 no problem👍🏽

[@jayhoughton558]

What tire dressings did you use recently? I wonder if you have used a solvent dressing that didn’t come off completely? Since you had so much goop in the ribs on the sidewalk it kinda looked like that. The ADS tire cleaner is amazingly strong stuff. I think they also say you can use tar remover as well to get them cleaner.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@jayhoughton558 i pretty much use adams graphene tire dressing, sometimes gummi from stjarnagloss. but both are fairly weak dressings only lasting a couple of weeks. in this case i really believe that the p&s undressed was the culprit in preventing the ghost to stick 😜 i’m almost sure it didnt rinse away completely but you’re definitely correct with the tar remover … or mineral spirt prep, but that’s really only needed for serious tire sealants (in my opinion)

[@brianr749]

Post a video of when your sidewalls blow from brushing mineral spirits onto them.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@brianr749 KABOOM!!! darn it all to hell, i knew i shouldn’t have used mineral spirts that “ONE” time!!! everybody knows that rubber tires are just as strong and thick at nitrile gloves…hehehehe, it’ll be fine my friend 🤘🏽🐿️💨 and you’re absolutely not wrong, solvents like that can and may harm rubber, but that’s not set in stone. using those solvents should be done very sparingly “VERY”. but sometimes it’s needed to clean the stubborn gunk off of tires, which in that case it’s mainly attacking the gunk. i do not recommend mineral spirits be used every time you clean your tires and i hope i didn’t come off that way in the video 👍🏽

[@serranosmobile]

Mistake #1 used express 😂

[@FrankoDetails]

ohmygod bro dark fury! dark fury for the win, that stuff is great, of course i’ll use caution when using it but i can wait to use it more 🤘🏽🐿️💨

[@ElsaHernandez-t2r]

😊ya

[@BXGreen_DrivewayDetails]

👍

[@FrankoDetails]

@@BXGreen_DrivewayDetails whaaaaasuuuuup!

[@frankieups]

Way too much work for just a tire dresser

[@FrankoDetails]

@@frankieups oh for sure, for regular dressings nah i ain’t doing all that but ghost is a tire sealant and my first go around using it gave me hell 😜 i wanted to give it a fair trial so i went with that method and i will say it’s still going strong 🤘🏽🐿️💨

[@gregsullivan7408]

Especially when it doesn't even look as good as a standard dressing

[@FrankoDetails]

@@gregsullivan7408 yeah it’s definitely subjective as far as how it looks, but if you’re doing any kind of long term tire sealant it takes a bit more time to prep the tires. the maintenance on sealant coated tires is very minimal which is a bonus 😜😜😜

[@Dias-v]

Tacos 🌮 Iam hungry 🤤 after I finit the job Iam ready to get back to washing my baby’s watching you now to get my motivation back bc Iam tired as heck 💩😂 for me the car pro retire is like a nuke what ever comes it’s way I never had problems just two passes and all is clean like new strong shit I tell you 🫡

[@FrankoDetails]

@@Dias-v dias!!!! yeah that dark fury came in like a wrecking ball

[@JeepJL]

Wow… Glad I don’t use any tire dressings or sealants. Seems like a LOT of work for “hopefully it works”.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@JeepJL hehehe, you and cars with keav like them naked au natural tires! but yes this time the tires look great no flaking or anything weird 😜 … and i’ve been sleeping on a dedicated tire cleaner, i always thought “eh a 2 in 1 works just fine”. that gyeon was excellent and boy that dark fury didn’t play around either 😜🐿️💨

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@FrankoDetailsYou got to admit that natural tire color looked good before you put that tire makeup back on there. 😂

[@FrankoDetails]

@@CarsWithKeav you’re not entirely wrong 😜🐿️💨

[@FineDetailingAZ]

If it helps Franko, I did a pre scrub with Koch Chemie AWH then hit it with mineral spirits before application. Holding up so far. Koch Chemie at 1:5 and 2 applications and the tires are stripped like they're trying put themselves through college. kzbin.infoRqmImfaawtw?si=drjdJI5Xpnnc4kmv

[@FrankoDetails]

@@FineDetailingAZ yeah, i really believe i didn’t rinse off the p&s undressed completely the 1st go 😜

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@FrankoDetails all good give the Koch Chemie a try it’s pretty wild. I only use it to strip.

[@FrankoDetails]

@@FineDetailingAZ 😆😆😆

[@SoCleenDetailing]

Frankoooo! Thank you for sharing the reality behind using new products and what could go wrong and how to figure it out! 🫡🫡 i enjoy using adams graphene i hear tire coatings are finicky but the graphene dressing works pretty solid and holds on nicely (obviously factors affect longevity 👍🏼)