Armor Piercing 5.7 (SS190) vs Body Armor (Ft. James Reeves From TFBTV)

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[@RealCopperKaya]

This was a great time! James is a great guy and a good friend! We will be doing more content together folks! Thanks for watching 🫡🙏😎

[@markschoch9509]

If you're such a good friend you would stop him from wearing women's shorts. James, if you see this comment, conceal carrying doesn't mean looking like a Ken doll while wearing your wife's shorts. Carrying a micro sized means something completely different to you then it dies to other firearm enthusiasts. You're wife is a lucky woman. 😏 Awesome video gents!

[@handroids1981]

Hey Blue Steel, I now accept you.

[@JoshuaG-o2h]

I have some 31g issued 5.7s you civilians can’t get it

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

​@JoshuaG-o2h We can just load the same projectiles hotter than you are issued.

[@DisgustedGenXr]

OK let me understand what a great time is to watch two people with a combined IQ of God knows what being completely unable to figure out to put something behind the plate to figure out if some thing went through it this is painful to watch I want to get a plane ticket go back in time and put something behind the plate for them

[@TheSheridanbrenton]

Glad seeing you and James doing a colab together. You both are awesome!

[@RealCopperKaya]

Thanks Man! James is a great guy and a good friend! We will continue doing stuff together 🫡

[@TheSheridanbrenton]

@RealCopperKaya That would be amazing! James and classic are the two channels I watch the most! Keep up the great work;)

[@fullfire0]

You gotta put something behind the plate that isn't touching the plate so the back force deformation doesn't hit it

[@glenhar1225]

Lesson learned: hit anywhere but the plate.

[@shank170]

I train for groin shots. A lot of big blood flows in that area.

[@Dibbs10101]

Waiting for the collab giveaway. Will probably be a Glock 19 and Kaya’s new jazzercise DVD set.

[@handroids1981]

Followed by the Boxercise video from JR.

[@n8strength]

Would love to see the PS90 tested as well. That 16” barrel should add quite a bit of velocity compared to the 10.5”

[@lewishamilton9251]

not much

[@Snapper314]

Great job on this video! Some people say the 5.7 round and the FN P90 became almost obsolete once good Level 4 Armor became widely available.

[@jjmckay6man1]

you don't even need level 4 lol. 3+ was plenty to stop that armor piercing round lol. 5.7 was meant to go through level 3a not 3 or 3+.

[@non-binaryjesus]

Why not just set a piece of cardboard behind it?

[@OneSevenDefense]

💯

[@MattH-wg7ou]

🧠

[@alwaystherightanswer]

The collaboration you didn't know you wanted or needed but now can't live without.

[@RealCopperKaya]

Thank you sir 🫡🙏

[@rustyc]

Props to James saying "F it, we ball" and just let Kaya keep shooting more SS190.

[@BuffRANGE]

Federally civilians are not barred from buying, selling, using, owning, etc Armor Piercing ammunition, of course as long as you are not in commission of a crime.. State laws vary though. There's tons of SS190 on GB all day everyday, even Sunday.

[@M1Fanboy]

Great video! I like when these two do reviews together… there is a good dynamic duo

[@AniwayasSong]

As 'Fun' as all the talk/tests/theories are regarding the effectiveness of the 5.2x28 (Or ANY caliber for that matter), is? For general EDC settings, carrying standard cartridges (ie, NOT expecting to enter a war zone), *IF* the threat is actually wearing body armor? Forget the 'Chest/Center Mass' and just take-out the easier to hit pelvic girdle (Which is UN-armored, 99% of the time). Easy peasey, lemon squeezy!

[@MattAGames]

I think the power of the 5.7 is having it in a machinegun. Anything you empty a 50 round mag into, is going to feel it and it's so controllable you will hit.

[@voteholyk]

Love the team ups.

[@lyfandeth]

Like to see some off-the-shell 308 and 30-06 against their Level4. Military and hunting rounds, and fire from 50 feet back, to give the bullets half a chance to stabilize in flight. Barrels less than 16" need not apply. 20" barrels preferred.

[@joecentral-o9984]

Buffmanrange does every body armor with every conceived round there can be had.

[@nealgold8442]

Great collaboration & topic.

[@BronzeAgePuritan]

Best comedy duo since Abbott and Costello.

[@RealCopperKaya]

😁

[@AllAboutSurvival]

Thanks for the clear demonstration.

[@jameswick8358]

The difference between an educated man and a experienced man is the vocabulary 😂

[@glennwilliams3692]

The bromance theses two have been having lately should turn into a series. lol

[@DTex.45ACP]

Kaya, you, and I guess short-shorts James sorta, rock! Good stuff!

[@searchBLOC941]

The fact that law enforcement and the military can have things we can't is absurd. And a direct violation of the constitution.

[@EKUgrad1]

The new and improved fleece backstop demonstrates the principle well .

[@Doublezzranch]

Kaya & Jason 🏆 Always a winning combination

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

I got +P+ professionally reloaded SS190 they’re going almost 2300 fps out of the 4.8” 57 pistol. I wonder how much the extra 200 fps would help

[@joecentral-o9984]

Body armor dawg? Rifle.... Big one. Handgun? Aimr for the 🍆 or the face. ❤

[@miloinaz]

That was fun and a few laughs. Great job!

[@jammbbs1688]

I have loved my body armor by guard dog they are great for the price and one of the best hidden gems

[@JonisaYee]

Has .277 fury been tested on armor yet?

[@Gunmaster909]

Best duo 👊👊

[@SirClicks.]

Just to let you know, you had it the other way around. M855 is steel core, M855A1is steel tipped. Oddly enough, m855A1 penetrates armor better.

[@Bryce616]

Y’all should do a video of pros and cons of suppressed 300blk with the suppressor under the handguard

[@scallums]

Level 4 armor is rated to stop 30.06 AP. I have an AR 5.7 and 10 boxes of SS192 which they were politically pressured to stop making in 2004.

[@Shademastermcc]

They were politically pressured to not make ss190. Never heard of ss192 being put to the sword.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Shademastermcc They still make Ss190, that's a highly controlled round. They pulled "SS192" because of alleged pressure, but literally it's the same bullet as SS195/198 and slower than 198 even.

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

You can make hdpe plated by saving milk jugs and melting them down. Add a thin sheet of aluminum to the front-ish layers. It’ll only stop pistols if I remember. Some KZbinr makes ba videos I saw

[@georgepap5454]

How many TFBtv - ers do you need to figure out a witness panel 2 inches behind a plate 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LifeProChris]

Chinese body armor, I’ll pass

[@bigblind4085]

What's up with the daisy dukes😂

[@josephcastro5894]

This was great 👍

[@Duck_Boi556]

I want to see .22 mag (with pointy tip) out of a rifle/pistol vs level 3a kevlar

[@SomeReefer]

pretty much what the 5.7 is. It's always funny to see the 5.7 fanboys act like it is some super cartridge. I owned one and wasn't impressed by the performance or price. Even made some crazy hand loads for it and still wasn't very impressive and wound up selling it after 7 months.

[@Doriamo]

I’d like to see that and 22 TCM

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Doriamo You won't in 22 TCM because of the Overall Length constraints and needing a stubby bullet to keep the powder charge up.

[@Doriamo]

@@BuffRANGE so neither type of 22 TCM will be very good at penetration? There are two types and one looks a bit more pointy but still not a real point.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Doriamo 22TCM uses a lead core soft point. It can defeat some low class IIIA made from aramid/Kevlar but fails against PE. Because 22TCM has to fit in an overall length constraint a long pointy bullet wouldn’t fit in the magazine.

[@menegene4129]

Need to give James his own special intro for when he guest stars 😎

[@hexa6672]

would be cool if you guys can show the 4.6 MP7 AP rounds too

[@BuffRANGE]

That's the one thing the 4.6 with the AP SX round does better than 5.7, mainly because it's a solid steel round with a copper jacket. It will out penetrate the SS190 all day against armor.

[@noahkladivo3752]

"Please stop shooting me with that thing"

[@just.a.simplejoe]

Imagine if you guys also got Garand Thumb in on this for extra resources. All 3 power house KZbinrs for an epic collab!

[@ronincustomz]

Soooo....when's the wedding? 😂

[@Merica1776]

OK….im buying guard dog plate now!!

[@BuffRANGE]

SO you want some M995 ....

[@SeymourPettigrew]

May I suggest placing clay an hour much behind the plates… then you can see what damage is caused to skin in f even a small amount actually penetrates the plate

[@PeteRock1]

I love this collaboration. Keep rockin 😎 😊

[@QDOG724]

Try testing the 7.5 brno pistol caliber vs body armor.

[@handroids1981]

Straight Test Couple!

[@DisgustedGenXr]

This exemplifies, what happens when a government employee gets involved in anything. you would think if you were trying to figure out if you were penetrating that plate you would put something behind it at the beginning of the test? .

[@ScammyTammy]

I actually love you guys and your vocabulary Road bumps you guys go over with each other 😂😂😂😂

[@hvyduty1220]

What gets me is they claim that 5.7 will but armor plates out to 500 meter? Never seen it done.

[@High_Desert_Tropics]

Classic should hire James. Your colabs are probably my favorite videos

[@Bigrig2020-c1d]

I’m sure James stays busy between TFB and his real lawyer job as is, but I totally agree. I only watch classic for the James videos 😂

[@FACTS.not.FEELINGS.vet.]

Level III+ body armor may also be able to stop .308 AP rounds.. a 5.7 AP round will definitely not touch a .308 AP round which is ZOOMING around 3100fps then at 300 yards still zooming around 2,351fps hahaha Level IV body armor, which is designed to stop .30-06 M2AP armor-piercing rounds

[@katyg3873]

Now do .22 TCM.

[@Doriamo]

I’d like to see that as well!

[@handroids1981]

I once bought a demo ranch singlet that had been shot by a fifty cal, back when Matt was a medium size channel... To _this_ day I can not convince people it's legit. I can't even imagine how hard it must be to a tiny, tiny hole ro anyone and oh, phrasing.

[@joecentral-o9984]

If you have that muh time for a shot why you shooting the body armor? 😂

[@Dstev98141]

Yup, cool spot, been there!

[@zakartv]

But bro, it’s $10 a round… 🤣 çok komik abi Kaya!

[@PrincessParabellum]

I’m jealous of the body armor 😂😂getting more action than me 😫😂😭 lmaoooo

[@bobbyberry5559]

Kaya, can i send you some clear glasses for indoors? 😅

[@RealCopperKaya]

I could use some 😆

[@jasonsierchio1167]

This is a great ad for Bulldog Armor lol

[@bobbyberry5559]

Guard dog

[@matthewsandifer2673]

Did we have to do a colab with Daisy Duke?

[@danefuentes3877]

Only if you're a red-blooded American!

[@MichaelWilliamson-z9g]

I'd like to see you shoot a 22-250 Federal Blitz round - 40 gr 4100 fps at that plate to see what happens.

[@dixonwa1]

Its the tape thats bulletproof

[@mikereimus8879]

Great video thanks

[@Drahazar1]

If your not using vanguard outfitters or elite ammunition for armor penetration then your wrong.

[@1nfamyX]

5.7 is kinda dubious but what it is for sure good at is this:

[@1nfamyX]

LOL im joking yall.

[@THEcd6pack]

So if its illegal to sell, but not illegal to own, how does one go about owning it?

[@davidisaacson9328]

Barter someone for it!

[@cercaz]

James wants 5.7 so badly to work on armor when he should be using 7.5

[@vicdiaz5180]

5.7 in the SS190 load pierces right through level 3 armor as he demonstrated in a different video. That’s more than good enough to carry in your waistband

[@cercaz]

@@vicdiaz5180 yea, unobtainium for most people. Regular 7.5 flatnose will puncture Level III at 100

[@BuffRANGE]

@@cercaz I some how am highly suspect of those claims since level III is M80 BALL at 2,750 fps. 7.5FK is basically 44 mag and good IIIA should cover it..

[@cercaz]

@@BuffRANGE I had to go back and check. It wasn't 100yds but Tim over at Military Arms Channel did a test on IIIa soft panel. I had mistyped and misremembered, but I'll leave it up

[@cercaz]

@@BuffRANGE all that being said, it'd be cool if you did a video on it

[@9x19G19]

Somebody tell Kaya to check that spot under his nail.

[@Tslice42]

Good video but why don’t you just put something behind it like a cardboard box to see if it’s going through?

[@Tattooed_Mexican]

Hey Kaya, 0:40 where is New Orins Louisiana??

[@iansanchez331]

The real test here is who can wear the tightest shirt and smallest shorts?

[@davidisaacson9328]

I thought they were going to do a little "pants off-dance off"...but glad they didn't!😆

[@westtexas3041]

Great video.

[@sappysiggy2351]

I thought I seen dust from the first paper hit??

[@hops2099x]

6:52 your mom told me the thickness makes a difference

[@CaptainRedScurvy]

So if you can't sell the ammo can you add it as a gift with purchase

[@danefuentes3877]

Ok but how would they get it in the first place if they can't buy it?

[@davidisaacson9328]

Gotta straight barter it with someone. No cash exchanging hands!

[@jonathonspears7736]

I mean, not really a fair test of its capabilities. It was never designed to penetrate hard armor. Only soft armor.

[@jjmckay6man1]

yes 3a.

[@liamwinter4512]

The round was designed to penetrat a nato kevlar helmet at 100 meters.

[@jjmckay6man1]

@@liamwinter4512 3a.

[@JamesBrown-s7m]

4570 government near load hms 430 grain

[@ninjagold9244]

If the plate has a ceramic strike face, it will most likely stop that steel core 5.7. A pure PE plate, which is usually very thick but light, is weak to steel core penetrators. I think every level iv plate uses a ceramic strike face, and I'd be shocked if any kind of 5.7 could penetrate it.

[@jjmckay6man1]

that 1st plate was just a PE plate and it did not penetrate.

[@zakk5887]

That's an sbr ps90. Don't glorify it.

[@Dave-lh6ws]

Let me guess, you're the guy at the range asking to see people's NFA paperwork

[@ianray8823]

Tape it to two tapatio tasting tapirs too

[@brentsyoutube]

After being shot 10 times the integrity of the plate has diminished

[@DustinStapp]

I'm a Johnny Bravo fan.

[@hurrikaneiii]

Put the paper on the backstop.

[@StyltsMusic]

Least scientific experiment ever lol great video tho

[@thePrussian]

Tape-et-tu is Turkish for also.

[@alfredjr2k556]

Tisas PX5.7

[@jizomeini]

Amazing how a "little" calibre packs this much power and doing this damage to lvl4 armor with a P90 barrel.

[@djjaysky9071]

out of a p90 it struggles to pen 3a

[@Shademastermcc]

​@@djjaysky9071 Struggles is a strong word. Ss190 has little trouble with 3a and can leave a nice wound channel in gel after the fact. Clay is another great medium that holds the deformation so you can see the energy afterwards.

[@richdubbya]

5.7 and 22mag are vicious.. Nuff said.

[@jasonsierchio1167]

I thought Kaya and James were the same person for a while

[@frankcastle4435]

Don’t insult James like that

[@jasonsierchio1167]

@@frankcastle4435 hahaha

[@RealCopperKaya]

I wish, but I don’t have luscious hair like James 😆

[@jasonsierchio1167]

@@RealCopperKaya Hey, compared to me, you both have luscious hair lol

[@philCDXX]

I coulda sworn James was married already?

[@Crangaso]

Tape it too . . . . What? Deeeeeeez . . . . Na not deez

[@TranceMechanic7]

Tāpitoo! 😂

[@RCT21985]

You guys greatly overestimated that round's capability. That round would have to be going way faster to go through that armor. I don't get why allot of people are so fond of this caliber.

[@ferretapocalypse]

If only there was a way to tell if the rounds were going through. /sarcasm

[@ericbergfield6451]

LOL, I like the bro dynamic between Kaya & James

[@jjmckay6man1]

I'll see your little 5.7 and raise you a 243win with a 55gr ballistic tip bullet going 4000fps.

[@0zmose]

Cool, can you fit 20 rounds of 243 in your sidearm?

[@jjmckay6man1]

@@0zmose I can fit 20 rounds in my magazine yes.

[@jjmckay6man1]

@@0zmose don't think I'd want that little thing as a sidearm as it only penetrates 3a anyways. I'll take stopping power with a much heavier bullet..