Army Rangers vs Green Berets (Special Forces)

[@matthewr.9241]

This was a good video. From my memory all Gb go to Monterey for language school. Seems like this video was from a Gb who also earned his ranger tab. Appreciate the video - v/r- old army vet

[@darrellwood3729]

Or DLIEC Arlington, Va

[@LRRPFco52]

SF go through the SFLCs at Bragg as part of the Q. Only in very rare cases might someone from 18 series go to DLI. Language proficiency on any given ODA is generally very poor. Exceptions are guys who are English as a 2nd language speakers and LDS missionaries. SF used to be a lot better at this in the early days (1950s-1960s) because of all the Lodge Act dudes who came from Europe and went into 10th Group. It’s generally a joke now that involves mention of “ B C D” on whatever language proficiency test is being discussed so you get paid.

[@artwerksDallas]

THEY THE GB KNOW THEIR STUFF. I SERVED WITH MANY DURING MY TIME IN THE LANGUAGE SCHOOL IN THE LATE 80s. THEY TAUGHT ME SOME DIRTY TRICKS I LATER USED AGAINST BOTH MY COMPANY COMMANDER (DKHEAD) AND PLT SGT(ASSWIPE) DONT SCREW AROUND WITH THESE GUYS. LOVED THEM

[@edwhite8162]

I am a 74 y. o. Army vet. Served from '69 to '76. Started out as a combat engineer. I was a demo man in Germany and then RVN. I graduated from MACV Recondo in mid '70. Joined Co B (Ranger) 75th Inf. (Airborne) in 71 at Ft Carson. Graduated Ranger School that same year. TAC NCO was Uncle Bernie... SFC Burnell was the best NCO ever. Was ordered to 1st Bn, 75th Inf when it formed in 74. Was at Ft Stewart then. Was medically retired in '76. Seems like in every generation there are men who choose the warrior way and step up to the challenge. I am proud to have been in the Ranger tradition, the Ranger way. These years formed me in ways i never could have experienced anyplace else. Many of the things I learned about courage, honesty and loyalty are filtering down through my family to this day. Just want to shout out to all who came behind me and say, "May the Big Ranger in the sky bless you all for all of your lives." Hooah!

[@beewubs]

Welcome home, sir.

[@nikeyrawhide2873]

As a 'Nam vet and infantry grunt, I've fought alongside Seals, Special Forces (Green Berets), and Army Rangers..not gonna rate which group are best, but if I'm ever in a foxhole in the dark of night with insurgents all around, I wouldn't mind having one from each in the hole with me. It's simple really, it would mean my chances of survival would be threefold..and I know I will never be left behind. Never had a chance with Delta Force, they weren't created yet at that time. I'm 71 years old and still alive and kicking, they did me right and got me back in the world in one piece//

[@Gumblejumble]

RASP 1 and 2 are for 2 different groups of candidates. RASP 1 is for E1-E5, RASP 2 is for E6 and above.

[@barryboots9369]

Army Veteran here- enlisted and officer. I went to SFAS (Special Forces Assessment and Selection) and completed phase 1. I can tell you that getting into the Special Forces and winning the green beret is far more challenging than becoming a Ranger. Ranger is like elite infantry. SF is the elite of the elite. I cant tell you how many rangers dropped out from my tent at SFAS. If I were to pick the best of both worlds (both safety and risk) I would go Rangers. That way youre still considered spec ops, and it isnt as dangerous as SF. In SF, just at SFAS we had people die from random things.

[@WanderingPassports]

You did the US Army's top 2 Tier 2 units, now do two of their tier 1 units like Operational Detachment Delta vs Ranger Recon Company

[@michealmills6847]

Being a former GB soldier myself I feel that both units are elite plus we all have one mission to maintain and keep America safe and free.

[@yvespenaflor4610]

Did you try for delta selection?

[@braeden.beatyyy]

@@yvespenaflor4610i’m pretty sure delta comes at you for selection.

[@jamesboylan3262]

It is not about who is better, but what they each bring to a fight and how they are used in the fight. Both are excellent and well trained disciplined fighting units.

[@rgarizonahomestead2729]

In my young life, i was in the original 1/ 75 ranger back in 1974. I loved my time in the unit. Ranger on guys

[@jeffreylinney2147]

When the seals and group guys need rescued, they send rangers. When rangers need rescued, they send more rangers.

[@TheonlyZerosumgame]

Rangers stack bodies, where special forces stack countries there’s no comparison.

[@4BearWarrior]

I was in the 2nd Infantry Division Ft. Lewis Washington and I had the privilege of working with both the Green Beret and the Rangers. On the battlefield I would be happy with either of them fighting alongside our unit. Both are top of the line and I learned from both of them. I was glad that both were stationed at Ft. Lewis.

[@TheonlyZerosumgame]

@@4BearWarrior I am just saying they aren’t comparable, Regiment ranger pipeline is less than 1 year if you include BCT. A Ranger rifle squad has 9 soldiers and is typically lead by a staff Sargent. Highly capable at quick response direct action Army special forces pipeline is 1.5 -2.5 years. The Q course alone is longer than all of ranger qualifications put together and that’s coming off the street on an option 40. An ODA has 12 soldiers lead my a captain then warrant officer. A master sergeant and the remaining are all SFC (usually) specialized in weapons, communications, engineering, medical. I am in no way taking anything from rangers, But let’s give SF some flowers. They are highly trained, and highly intelligent individuals. With the skill set designed to end or create geopolitical tensions. I stand by my analogy.

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

Very good comparison between both elite skill sets.

[@Grid88]

Thank you sir.

[@KillMonger592]

Yea they do alot of talkin

[@JMPC90]

@@MaxwellDurransMaybe because either they’re retired, or there’s no confidentiality being in it but there is about what they do or did.

[@ethanlatham6146]

To break it down. You hear of rangers becoming Green Berets, but never hear of Green Berets becoming rangers.That should end the who’s better conversation.

[@Grid88]

Good point. Don't forget Rangers have Tier 2 troops as well.

[@ReynaldoPuno-i7w]

like in the philippines... If you are graduate from special forces theres no need to enter scout ranger course😊😊😊

[@georgej1945]

​@@ReynaldoPuno-i7wcoz there's already Colpire Duro course which they so called Scout Ranger Course for Scout Rangers.

[@tteggellwerdna]

I've heard this to but but Ranges excel at seizing key terrain and doing direct actions raids, and green berets excel at guerilla warfare, counterinsurgency, unconventional warfare, and FID. No one unit is better than the other unit they all have their capabilities and mission set.

[@chadjohnson5917]

@ethanlatham6146. You're absolutely right. I was in the 82nd and never heard of a SF guy go the Ranger unit

[@erics362]

The shorest pipeline in US military special operations verses one of the longest.

[@AviArwahki-pq2hz]

Green Berets also have Linguistic Specialists within thier Rank and file.

[@KillMonger592]

Yea they do alotta talkin

[@AviArwahki-pq2hz]

​@@KillMonger592 when it's necessary, otherwise they hate having to do it.

[@KillMonger592]

@@AviArwahki-pq2hz being Diplomatic is part of their portfolio so what they hate doesn't really matter now does it

[@AviArwahki-pq2hz]

​@@KillMonger592 Hey Dave, there are times I hated to deal with some real Stupid Tribesmen. I was a Ranger Linguistic. I hated to interact with them. But it was My Duty to carry out my Batalion Commanders Orders. What's past is past.

[@dw3526]

Attendees of the "Q" course attend language school as part of their qualification.

[@thekitchenvillain]

Rangers roots go way farther than WW2

[@brandonaddison1037]

Since the 13th century

[@Ronin____5000]

Lmao uhh no. US Rangers owe their lineage to Roger's Rangers, 1755 to 1777. Where you getting that "13th century" bs?

[@WanderingPassports]

Green Berets also do direct action

[@miketheman4341]

Rangers are largely well trained kids with far less experience than GB. Rangers are meant to bring a significant force to combat unlike the GB that work in small units and are made up of older very experienced soldiers with far more training and experience. It takes a great deal to be a Ranger but man for man you rather have a dozen GB than a dozen rangers if you are under fire.

[@MansaMusa-v5q]

True but both are badass and you probably wouldn’t pass either past test

[@miketheman4341]

@@MansaMusa-v5q That’s like telling an oncologist you never had cancer so you don’t understand it. Remember this lesson in epistemology.

[@LRRPFco52]

A PFC or SPC in Ranger Regiment has more CQM, CQB, and CALFEXs under his belt than most E-7s and E-8s in SF. SF lets in a lot of soft skills MOS guys who might have experience in repairing vehicles, generators, and radios, but don’t have the core light infantry mindset built into them. Some adapt very well, but others don’t. Most ODAs have at least 50% of the guys as former 11Bs, but those could be a mix of Mech guys (lol), Light infantry, and maybe a Ranger Regiment guy or 2. Junior enlisted in Ranger Regiment get far more reps at the basics than SF. SF brings a bunch of different MOSs together to deploy as a self-contained template for linking-up with, organizing, and training guerrillas or partisans in UW. You will absolutely be more lethal and survivable under-fire with a Ranger Squad than an SF ODA, no 2 ways about it. The Rangers will be in much better physical shape, have more endurance, far superior marksmanship, and superior proficiency with their weapons and equipment than a typical SF ODA. This is just the way it is.

[@miketheman4341]

@@LRRPFco52 That’s laughable! One SF includes elements like SEALs and Delta so to claim that you are facing a more formidable threat from a platoon of Rangers vs Seals or Delta rejects everything we know about the physical requirements, the experience and the training for each. Plenty of Rangers try out for SF units like the GB and Delta but few make it. Rangers are still kids given their average age. Today many have never seen combat given it’s been years since we have deployed large scale combat units while SF are and have been running missions nonstop for over 20 years. There are no Seal , GB and Delta units that don’t have extensive combat experience unlike Rangers many of whom were in high school when we pulled out of Afghanistan while others were being escorted to school when we pulled out of Iraq.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@miketheman4341 I'm talking Army SF when I say SF, not Wikipedia answers for kids who have never served in or with any of these units. Every guy from Ranger Regiment who goes to SFAS gets selected unless they were injured, which is very few and far between. SFAS is business-as-usual for an E-4 or E-5 from Ranger Regiment, more like a vacation from the training cycle in Battalion. For JSOC, most guys come from Ranger Regiment, not SF, and it has been that way for generations. A guy from Ranger Regiment has a much higher probability of being successful in Unit Selection because the PT standards are so much higher in Battalion than SF. SF has very low standards, technically big army APFT standards, which are a joke. Ranger elements deploy alongside the others in certain JSOTFs, you just don't hear about it. SF is a major let-down if you've ever been embedded with them. Lots of fat guys who are broken, marking time until retirement. They suck at SUTs, whereas Batt Boys are always doing SUTs, live-fires, flat range work, demo, breaching, weapons squad work, mortars, rotary wing cycle, and fixed wing airborne ops. There aren't places for senior NCOs to park themselves and ride it out in Ranger Regiment. SF has ODAs where half the Team could be doing that. I saw this firsthand. Before we deployed, it was like someone tossed an admin grenade into the Team, and none of our critical 18 series MOS guys could go. Both 18Ds...non-deployable (medical profile from civilian skydiving injuries and the other's wife was on bed rest/high risk pregnancy) 18Es...non-deployable (SOTIC & Golden Knights try-outs) An ODA is Non-Mission-Capable with at least 1x 18E and 1x 18D. We had to borrow 1 of each from 143 & 145 (Mountain & SCUBA Teams in the Company). Then the 18F was off to SCUBA School at Key West without even clearing it with the Team Sergeant. I'd never seen anything like it. Senior 18B was off to SF ANCOC, hadn't even done time on Team, just skipped past the junior B into senior slot. He was a senior E-6 from 2/75 who made E-7 just prior to going SF. So we had only a handful of dudes to deploy with from an almost-full 11-man ODA. Something like that would be unimaginable in Ranger Regiment. That was a specialty ODA as well, the paid Level 1 MFF Team. So I chuckle when dudes who never even served, never caught a glimpse of the Bn area of any of these units try to pontificate about what they do, who they are, and what the culture is like.

[@ErickAVelezBeltran-eg4jl]

I definitely identify with the green berets but being realistic in DA not rescuing hostages, no one in Socom or even in Jsoc can stand up to the Rangers, they have more than 70 Jobs and their structure is infantry, a Ranger battalion has 800 soldiers and they were all to Rasp 1 or 2. In direct action this is my list from most suitable to least due to the structure in direct action because depending on how many men you have is your fighting power. 1 Rangers a battalion 800 men, 2 Navy seal platoon 16 men, 3 Marsoc 14 men, 4 Green Berets 12 men. But if we change the question and ask which units have the most experience and knowledge in ground warfare. The order is the following 1. Green Berets now 2 and 3 is a little difficult because the rangers in one year you already become a ranger but to be a Marsoc you take almost 2 years, and I put the Navy Seals last because They begin to take the basic of the navy which does not teach them practically anything about war on land, then they move on to Buds and there they begin to teach them interesting things, while at this point any of the units that I mentioned before have already gone through infantry schools and skydiving.

[@Grid88]

Great insight.

[@CassiusKolhaun]

@@Grid88 а нам срать кого в гробах отправите

[@Durzo1259]

Good rundown except I think anyone in JSOC would be equal to Rangers in straight-out DA. Rangers get more experience and action with DA than anyone at the Tier-2 level, but at the Tier-1 you have: 1) Delta Force, who are 75% former rangers specifically because DA is their bread and butter and are the best of the best, even by Ranger standards; their speed and precision is unrivalled. Then you have 2) DEVGRU, who 10 years ago weren't as good at DA as Delta but as I saw in an interview with a Delta operator, DEVGRU have worked their asses off learning from Delta to fight at their level, and according to that Delta operator they have recently equalled-out. 3) ISA & 24th STS who embed with Delta and have to do everything Delta can do, and 4) Ranger RRC, who of course are Tier-1 Rangers.

[@kalebhead6661]

U tripping

[@LRRPFco52]

Stop pontificating about things you haven’t seen or death with on a day-to-day basis.

[@kyliegraf8278]

My husband is currently doing a pros & cons list. He has the opportunity to join both 75th or SF, but he's unsure of which to pick. He's an E-6 and has been enlisted infantry for 9 years, is currently an instructor, has his Ranger and Airborne tabs, but is in the process of reclassing. We're currently at Fort Moore, so regiment is right here, but he's older now, and doesn't want to be dealing with the big army and he ultimately wants to feel challenged. We just want to figure out where he'd be the best fit.

[@ericparker321]

I'd say for him to go to selection. I mean your husband is obviously a man driven by a challenge. To be honest it's a big part of what's kept him coming home each time. For some of us if you get comfortable you become complacent and can lead to carelessness. Not the blatant, obvious carelessness, but the fractions of a second off your sight acquisition time from getting the "just another mission" syndrome. Stay sharp, stay alive! Besides, some of us find some solace in not just being Destroyers and helping rebuild and erase a little bit of the ugly in the world and ugly in our souls. Not that I have an opinion on one or the other either of them are a great bunch to work with. I wish him the best in whichever path he chooses to walk.

[@braeden.beatyyy]

If he wants challenge GB is the way to go

[@au100]

wonderful production. My vote is for GB.

[@ThiagoVasBellizia]

same

[@fdangleshadang-a-lang7149]

Same. Always dreamt of being a Green beret. But Rangers are also very important in their own right

[@JuanSilva-yd1ob]

There are a lot of GBs that went to Ranger School and some served in the regiment?

[@erics362]

Ranger School is a combat leadership school open to all branches on the military. The GB's who served in the regiment did so prior to GB selection.

[@LRRPFco52]

SF would be even less-proficient than it already is at basic soldiering and Light Infantry skills if it didn’t have Rangers in its ranks. SF is open to pretty much all MOSs in the Army, including Chaplain’s assistants who barely know the butt from muzzle of a rifle before they go to SFQC. I’ve seen in personally. Ranger Regiment sends its cooks and mechanics to Ranger School and includes them in a lot of the DA training since they are often expected to do QRF duty in a SHTF scenario.

[@Paleotech1]

Just remember that Army Rangers were not part of special operations until the late 1980s.

[@Ninjah013]

Lets keep it simple.... Rangers (regiment not just the tab) are some of the best at direct action in the world. And SF are extremely flexible professionals with many hats. And if you want a very important target in a country youre already at war with, the rangers will get him no doubt. If you want a small 12 man team to secretly topple an entire government and lead a revolution.... send in the green berets. Who would give rangers their run for their money at direct action as one of their hats they wear.

[@bobthecreator106]

The sad part is that the enemy these soldiers are fighting are formed, trained and funded by their own government.

[@I_S_Chew]

I don’t wanna be no airborne ranger. I wanna live a life of danger. I don’t wanna be no green beret. They only PT once a day. Left-right-left. Low-right-lefty-right. We love to double time!

[@michealmills6847]

It amazes me how people of today sit around with nothing else to do but try and compare which unit of soldiers are better they all are good at what they were trained to be and do.

[@Hew.Jarsol]

US Rangers were trained and created by the Commandos in the UK 1942. US green berets were copies of the Brit Commandos 1953

[@GraymanPodcast]

Depending on the mission, Rangers can deploy per platoon, and operate in units as small as squad level (9 man). RLTW ☀️⚡️⭐️

[@Butowskki]

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[@Grid88]

Thank you very much for your useful suggestions. Can you please let me know what kind of thumbnail of a particular channel you think would be better?

[@elizabethtamp1537]

There are horses for courses, same for Rangers and Green Barret.

[@4BearWarrior]

Veteran Army soldier 2nd Infantry Division and I got to work with both GB and Rangers. Both are best at what they do. Neither can compete with Seals around water, but then Seals can't compete with GB or Rangers on land. In a battle I would be happy to have either of those 2 groups by my side and I really can't pick which is better because like I said both are the best at what they do.

[@Ronin____5000]

Lmao yes they can. The Army has a dive school, and we don't see those guys bashing their team mates and attempting to ruin the reputations and businesses of successful Army divers, like we do with those other guys.

[@AAA-k8f5e]

I was in SF in the 80s. We were not allowed weapons in El Salvador. We were there to teach only. The SF medic school was the longest course in the Army. In addition to language school. SF v. Rangers is just way too different to compare. I would say using High School it is Rangers are the football team and SF is baseball team that goes to the library and language lab.

[@WhySoSerious551]

Buddy the Rangers are more akin to the Royal marines in many ways, so are the seals. Green berets are tier 1, commandos, rangers, seals, were all tier 2 if you look at it like that. In any other part of the world Royal Marines would be SF. Americans they are all SF. Great going over, they have all the toys, bullets, budget, killing houses, they have killing towns. I've trained with both as a ML.

[@davidjacobs9644]

After 20 years we gave up a place we never should have been. My 3 Uncle's got there war. We left a place we never should have been i lost myself i blame our leaders

[@AdmiringOceanSunset-sy7ys]

Technically, army-ranger's...🤠🥰😇

[@tedfio1tedfio1]

SF = Green Berets also go back to FSSF - Devil's Brigade WWII

[@RafaLee-n6p]

One thing that isn’t mentioned but I find to be an important point. A Green Beret has more options for training within the entirety of the military, if desired, than Rangers. Of course, this is for the purpose of improvement as a Green Beret. I appreciate this video and it distinguishing the difference between Rangers and GB’s. It does get annoying when others immediately refer to SEALS, etc… “ Oh, but Seals are better, “ etc… 🙄 Such a statement is out of ignorance, and all have a different purpose. The Seals tend to be far more “ out in the open, “ about their efforts and far more commercialized. Often, all members of Spec Ops Forces end up working side by side.

[@Felix-v5t]

Both are very cool

[@iraeaglemind]

Very interesting!

[@humbertomoran1781]

RLTW!!!

[@andrewcastillo5003]

Rangers because they have more elite fighters 140 vs 12

[@Q60-Ninja]

The Army does exactly zero amphibious warfare.

[@matthewr.9241]

Don’t mention Somalia ? 1993

[@alamsucksemirisbetter2329]

Don’t Hebe to

[@SarahGildaMarcos]

SENDING LOVE EVERYONE 💚💚💚

[@artwerksDallas]

I WENT TO DARBY JR HIGH. NAMED FOR THE WW2 RANGERS COMMANDING GENERAL WILLIAM O DARBY. HIS STATUE IS OUT FRONT OF THE SCHOOL

[@Sub-Zero-392]

No comparison. Ranger is the level before Special Forces.

[@edwinsepulveda5550]

Each unit has a unique mission. In my opinion, none is better than the other. Therefore, coming from professionals, the constant crap about whose the best is childs play at its worse.

[@davidjacobs9644]

Rangers ive spent more times with them on hospitals & our Marines. B4 losing stripes i was a very good sergeant

[@sonnysantana5454]

now that the us army is getting back to their old sch mojo it would be a nice move to give and return to the classic black beret , the khaki tan beret was a nice moment but khaki tan looks better on the limey's

[@kannabis7999]

Rangers are direct action troops ,special forces work with locals to do insurgency and counter insurgency.rangers are special ops and the green berets are special forces.

[@actingvoiceover4882]

huh

[@colinscott5750]

8:13 Not the fortnite sniper mp3

[@jimrosarti3768]

well as my wife is a army ranger im afraid to say that i must say there moto again....rangers lead the way...everyone else is good but rangers are the better....they have even give the sas a run for their money

[@mckenna7261]

Dude that is not how RASP works

[@DankaLevin]

Rangers are good at what they do. Green Berets are better at what they do. Got way more Skills.

[@anthonycotton9155]

Army ranger's those guys or tuff!

[@davidjacobs9644]

Army Ranger is complete take control charge

[@SuperSy99]

Rangers is like SWAT GB is like CIA

[@Jc-ly6pe]

That’s a pretty good analogy

[@SantosLleiva-f5u]

Lol not even close but ok lol

[@Jc-ly6pe]

@@SantosLleiva-f5u it’s a pretty good analogy lol ranger 90% of the time is doing direct action like swat, gbs literally work wit indigenous people to sometimes overthrow or destabilize a government that’s definitely some cia type ish

[@alamsucksemirisbetter2329]

@@SantosLleiva-f5uyour probably pro Ranger

[@actingvoiceover4882]

didn't make any sense

[@davidjacobs9644]

Marine is sent after we could not take control we land sea air land

[@SantosLleiva-f5u]

Ima become a green beret

[@FMD023]

Green berets are an unconventional force and are way more relax on their rules. Rangers are expected to hold regular army standards while being able to and have the fundings to do high speed missions. Rangers are more of your support brute force guys while army SF is more about training other country gorilla forces.

[@RobertMattison-pp6uf]

Green Berets is my favorite due to the legend John Wayne staring in the Movie Green Berets.

[@darrellwood3729]

Haha! Don't forget the song!

[@James-hs3tu]

Interesting. With Top of the LINE PERFORMERS THERE STILL BAD GUYS OUT THERE. THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY !!!!!!

[@ThatsGot]

❤😂😂🎉🎉🎉😢😢😮😮😅

[@RussellCraver]

one easy to a point i care u

[@kamaleon114]

PTDE ITS BEST

[@jaymichael3749]

why are we exposing all these special forces to the public? seems to me my best forces would be those no one ever heard of or talked about. what do others think?

[@jiachengwu4185]

Haven't Rangers switched over to HK416?

[@lgdurocher]

No. URGI/“block 3”

[@lgdurocher]

11.5” & 14.5”

[@prospero6337]

....awesome ✅ 🌟 .......🚁🚁🚁

[@NikyleValayudan]

Can a south african join the us army green beret 😮

[@johntimlin6664]

LAW'S ARENT ISSUED ANY LONGER TJEY ISSUE AT4

[@MatteyDoubleD]

Dude butchered the ranger part

[@tirsozul9913]

No 1 Army Ranking Green Berets coz green very hight salary...

[@Grid88]

They are known as diplomate soldiers.

[@JohnnyPruitt-o2j]

Vrs ? = Division

[@johnrogan8481]

AMERICA, CANADA AND MEXICO HAVE THE BEST SOLDIERS IN THE WORLD NO ONE IS BETTER THAN THE USA CANADA AND MEXICO

[@RaysViolet]

As a Canadian I’d rather have a British soldier on my shoulder then a Mexican one. Just my opinion. American/Canadian/British

[@vincentdavidson755]

All i can is before you join these groups you better b in good shape to start with or u wont make it through the training 🧝⚡⚡⚡💪

[@vincentdavidson755]

Better to get a job as a truck driver forget the go ho shit because once you get in you may wish you were not their you are stuck 🧝🏝️

[@actingvoiceover4882]

you do know that they lowered the training standards to let the new DEI womenz in now, right?

[@theundisputed3671]

You serious? Since when?

[@CassiusKolhaun]

156тыс напасть на 10тыч корпус обороны в Нормандии, вот это сила

[@alexandermagnus82]

An entrenched defender always has the advantage. One must offset that advantage somehow