Arnold Schoenberg : Transfigured Night (Verklarte Nacht) op.4 directed by Pierre Boulez

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@normansaulnier2083
@normansaulnier2083 5 жыл бұрын
I've loved classical music all my life (I'm 90 years old) and this is the first time I've heard Schoenberg's music. I'm overwhelmed by the lush sound of this piece. 'Lush' is the closest word I can think of to describe it.
@bortkievitch
@bortkievitch 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Norman, This is perhaps the most romantic work that Schoenberg wrote under the influence of Wagner. His next works sought to depart from tonal harmony and established the dodecaphonic system that some defend perhaps by snobbery. If you are a lover of good music I don't recommend you that dodecaphonic style, that is cerebral but doesn't reflect any feelings. Greetings.
@josephjohnherbert
@josephjohnherbert 4 жыл бұрын
@@bortkievitch I totally disagree. Schoenberg's atonal music was by no means void of feeling. Go back to the saccharine teat of Romanticism if you can't digest the complexities of atonality.
@GiovanniTancrediChan
@GiovanniTancrediChan 4 жыл бұрын
S. García dude why do you even write comments
@Funkynature
@Funkynature 4 жыл бұрын
GiovanniTancrediChannel Dude , Why do you even bother disturbing people who are happy with what they do in plus of making the same ?
@GiovanniTancrediChan
@GiovanniTancrediChan 4 жыл бұрын
Kaeear i hope your is not a rhetorical question because I have an answer for it. Of course I have no problem with some people not liking dodecaphonic works, but to go around telling people not to listen to them (as if one could get hurt listening to them and not liking them) is pure nonsense. If the guy follows his advice he could miss out on some pieces that he might actually like, whereas he could have just said “I don’t like them, check them out and see if you do”. Of course all of this was not included in my original comment , just because it seemed to me that someone else had already defended this point :)
@lumieres369
@lumieres369 10 ай бұрын
Formidable interprétation. Je n'entends que la musique. Je suis envahi par cette musique. Boulez a disparu. Schoenberg a disparu. Pure musique. Großartige Interpretation. Ich höre nichts als die Musik. Ich bin von dieser Musik überwältigt. Boulez ist verschwunden. Schoenberg ist verschwunden. Reine Musik. Great performance. I hear nothing but the music. I am overwhelmed by this music. Boulez is gone. Schoenberg is gone. Pure music.
@efanshel
@efanshel 3 ай бұрын
A wonderful composition from 1899. Beautifully performed....
@keiththomas795
@keiththomas795 6 жыл бұрын
I remember the shock I had years ago when first hearing this work. Expecting something of the ‘modern’ approach I was bowled over by this beautiful, romantic masterpiece. Superbly done here.
@ericoschmitt
@ericoschmitt 4 жыл бұрын
Keith Thomas Me too! Why, oh why didn’t he write more like this!? One of the most beautiful music ever, and he moved on to that dodecaphonic crap...
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericoschmitt Schoenberg He wrote the cantata Gurrelieder, which is one of the most beautiful and stirring pieces in the whole Romantic repertoire. But he couldn't have simply continued like that: romanticism had gone as far as it could. If he had not broken new ground his music would have become stale and repetitive. He said: "Somebody had to do it, so I let it be me." Even after inventing the dodecaphonic system, he occasionally wrote works that were wholly or partially tonal.
@lumieres369
@lumieres369 10 ай бұрын
Gustav Mahler grasped the dissolution of the individual within civilizations. Schoenberg, along with Webern and Berg, sensed that music could only evolve into something else and was heading towards the end of sound: the atomic bomb. It's a pure coincidence that Gould intervened in the middle, between the West and the East, to soothe spirits with the music of J.S. Bach. Furthermore, the genius Glenn Gould is making a comment here on dodecaphony. Part One : kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2iwlommlLeMeLssi=W1GLisEeL3E8K9KT Gustav Mahler a saisi la dissolution de l'individu au sein des civilisations. Schoenberg, avec Webern et Berg, a pressenti que la musique ne pouvait évoluer que vers autre chose et se dirigeait vers la fin du son : la bombe atomique. C'est une pure coïncidence que Gould soit intervenu au milieu, entre l'Occident et l'Orient, pour apaiser les esprits avec la musique de JS Bach. Par ailleurs, le génie Glenn Gould fait ici un commentaire sur le dodécaphonisme.
@philippe-lucthouvenin2102
@philippe-lucthouvenin2102 3 жыл бұрын
Étrange musique, intense, tendue, puissante, tendre et brutale à la fois, tellement éloignée de l’apparente froideur de Boulez. Il doit certainement ressentir qq chose… certainement…
@xavierlemblun8446
@xavierlemblun8446 Жыл бұрын
Oui c est une question que je me pose aussi mais ce grand musicien et chef d orchestre Mr Boulez que ressentait - il donc a l epreuve d une telle musique c est tellement beau le contraste est saisissant
@pierreminvielle
@pierreminvielle Жыл бұрын
C'est un grand musicien pas un robot.
@livafridrihsone6683
@livafridrihsone6683 11 ай бұрын
Certainment il est bouleversé de l'intérieur ! Comme nous tous
@educozar
@educozar 8 ай бұрын
Fantastique voyage, cette nuit a des saveurs Wagnériennes, Ravel, Mahler, tous. 😊merci !!!
@dagostinoification
@dagostinoification 5 жыл бұрын
énorme ! On est plongé dans des climats musicaux emplis de sentiments, de sensations, se souvenirs , immense compositeur que Arnold Schoenberg , et orchestre dirigé par ce géant musicien qu'à été Pierre Boulez ... Merci à France Musique ,infiniment .(un musicien professionnel )
@InXLsisDeo
@InXLsisDeo 9 жыл бұрын
Formidable. Merci à France Musique pour ce document. Et surtout merci M. Boulez pour tout ce que vous avez fait.
@jensbrandtjensen6487
@jensbrandtjensen6487 6 жыл бұрын
InXLsisDeo v
@samuelmincarelli5051
@samuelmincarelli5051 4 жыл бұрын
Great. Thank you to France Musique for this piece. And thank you, above all, Mr. Boulez for what you have done.
@Alix777.
@Alix777. 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@lourak613
@lourak613 6 жыл бұрын
Always hard to get Boulez to crack a smile...
@edjours45
@edjours45 3 жыл бұрын
Sublime… Un monument de la musique, qui fait la transition, y compris dans l'oeuvre de Schönberg, entre le classicisme et le modernisme. Un testament, tragique et virulent, que Boulez transcrit comme nul autre en harmonies bouleversantes et captivantes d'un bout à l'autre… En fier héritier, comme tout maître compositeur, ce dernier rend très sobrement un hommage haut en couleurs, chatoyant et fidèle aux contrastes torturés de cette oeuvre ô combien insurpassable dans son hyper-romantisme, sauf par l'absolu détachement d'un Bach. Un moment d'une infinie poésie…
@francemusiqueconcerts
@francemusiqueconcerts 3 жыл бұрын
Merci pour votre commentaire et vos impressions !
@benjamincuevaseninde
@benjamincuevaseninde 6 жыл бұрын
-- Ce chef-d’œuvre pour cordes d'Arnold Schoenberg suscite de grandes émotions. Plus vives encore grâce à la direction de Pierre Boulez. --
@crawyler
@crawyler 3 жыл бұрын
Grâce surtout à l'exceptionnelle clarté de sa direction ! Ainsi dirigée, l'œuvre paraît même facile, ce qui est évidemment faux… et n'oubliez pas dans le même esprit les admirables Métamorphoses de Richard Strauss…
@petermelian1346
@petermelian1346 7 жыл бұрын
Seher, sehr schön. Das beste. Diese Musik macht mich traum.
@alexanderbrown1954
@alexanderbrown1954 8 жыл бұрын
A most beautiful, luminous rendition of one of the most beautiful things AS ever wrote! That luminous quality is typical of Boulez - his conducting of Wagner is astonishing. Of course, all the work is done in the rehearsals, he seems to do very little on stage, but the effects he gets are just wonderful!
@jeanrollin1967
@jeanrollin1967 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Brown : Ty. I share with you comment.
@psalmtone2008
@psalmtone2008 6 жыл бұрын
Boulez understands conducting well. When you have great orchestras, you are there to transmit energy only when needed.
@zixiliu1711
@zixiliu1711 6 жыл бұрын
check Gurrelieder, another wonderful piece AS composed!
@davidgamache3035
@davidgamache3035 2 жыл бұрын
Such gorgeous writing and so wonderfully performed
@januarijanuari9801
@januarijanuari9801 4 жыл бұрын
Прекраснейшая музыка и исполнение!!!! БРАВО!!
@davidrosen2001
@davidrosen2001 6 жыл бұрын
Up until today I always preferred the sextet, until I came across this performance and changed my mind.
@manlioerta7221
@manlioerta7221 3 жыл бұрын
Assistere alla direzione dell'orchestra da parte di un grande compositore e teorico del '900 come Pierre Boulez è di per sé una grande emozione. La nuit transifugurée di Schoenberg risente dell'armonia di Wagner , ma non in modo pedissequamente meccanico come per molti autori di quel periodo. E' già presente la creatività poetica e armonico- strutturale che si manifesterà nelle opere successive e , in generale, nella nuova musica dodecafonica , che troverà il suo massimo teorico creativo in Schoenberg e l'ezzenziale in Webern. La musica emoziona come un notturno leopardiano.
@christianwagenseil9621
@christianwagenseil9621 3 жыл бұрын
wonderful
@claudiezeh
@claudiezeh Ай бұрын
Mon morceau préféré
@crawyler
@crawyler 3 жыл бұрын
On ne peut pas ne pas trouver magnifique le thème à 16:49 !
@aliceetandrebertozzi2865
@aliceetandrebertozzi2865 6 жыл бұрын
la découverte et l'approfondissement d'une des oeuvres les plus puissantes du 20 th boulez adorait cette composition
@notaire2
@notaire2 4 жыл бұрын
Klare und detaillierte Aufführung dieses perfekt komponierten Meisterwerks mit seidigen Tönen aller Streichinstrumente. Der intelligente Maestro dirigiert das ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut phrasierten Tempo und mit sorgfältig kontrollierter Dyamik. Echt cool!
@karimhabet6404
@karimhabet6404 7 жыл бұрын
Magnifique Performance.
@isabeldieguez4734
@isabeldieguez4734 Жыл бұрын
Bello intenso su base es una historia dolorosa pero Bello final x un hombre de verdad
@michelebeartGIBBONGASCON
@michelebeartGIBBONGASCON 2 ай бұрын
Merci
@Examantel
@Examantel 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot say which version is better - they both have their own merits.
@antonioblanco
@antonioblanco 6 жыл бұрын
Enorme!!
@_H_2023
@_H_2023 8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful,so mellow in sound.
@manuelacardona7662
@manuelacardona7662 10 ай бұрын
Putting an ad in the middle of this should be enough to sue
@davidgamache3035
@davidgamache3035 2 жыл бұрын
Schoenberg's very beautiful farewell to tonality before he destroyed it. superb!
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
If he "destroyed it" why is it still around? Many composers continued to write conventionally tonal works long after Schoenberg had rolled out his new system, and that includes Schoenberg himself! Eventually, almost all composers abandoned the 12-tone system except for occasional use, but it had served a useful purpose, clearing the ground for fresh new 20th-century styles rather than simply continuing to imitate Wagner or Brahms. Arnold Schoenberg was a major figure in the history of serious Western music.
@pluplume29
@pluplume29 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@ethancolmancomposer
@ethancolmancomposer 3 ай бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast Plenty of composers today still use 12-tone or serialism. In fact, that is the majority of works I've seen in the scholarly circle. If they do use more conventional tonality, it generally resembles the music or Kapustin or other quasi-jazz classical composers.
@sungeunjin78
@sungeunjin78 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to this at 9am because I dreamed about Schoenberg and Stravinsky last night.
@ilkinond
@ilkinond 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That fascinates me.
@etienneleparisien1391
@etienneleparisien1391 3 жыл бұрын
Not common. About themselves or about their music ?
@EduardoFrigattiComposer
@EduardoFrigattiComposer 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@JeanFrancoisFafournoux
@JeanFrancoisFafournoux 7 ай бұрын
Sensualité véracité sublime
@marcelocarosio3282
@marcelocarosio3282 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastique
@messiaen8563
@messiaen8563 3 жыл бұрын
Not angry Boulez Who could have ever imagined it?
@gerardbegni2806
@gerardbegni2806 7 жыл бұрын
This is of course the version transcribed for string orchestra. Boulez conducts admirably well.
@gonzalogrela1267
@gonzalogrela1267 8 жыл бұрын
excelente
@josemanuelmaciasromero5393
@josemanuelmaciasromero5393 7 жыл бұрын
Excelente trabajo: orquesta y maestro. Gracias
@dardanus41
@dardanus41 5 жыл бұрын
parmis les grandes oeuvres pour orchestre à cordes , s'impose " la nuit " de Schoenberg la sérénade pour cordes de Dvorak , le sixième Brandebourgeois , Bartok danses roumaines le final en pizzicato
@yvanglav4344
@yvanglav4344 4 жыл бұрын
Guy Couchard Metamorphosen, Richard Strauss...
@jacquesweber2384
@jacquesweber2384 4 жыл бұрын
et le Divertimento aussi, de Bartók
@ナポレオンボナタルト
@ナポレオンボナタルト Жыл бұрын
チャイコフスキーの弦楽セレナードやモーツァルトのアイネクライネナハトムジーク ディヴェルティメントKV136を忘れないでね
@neilmurphy7554
@neilmurphy7554 Жыл бұрын
Love the way the score is turned to face the audience during the applause..... But disappointed that the camera person insists on attending to detailing individual parts at the expense of showing the orchestra in full view, especially from 18:12 where we really need to see the textures flood the entire orchestra..... its boring but all too common for camera people to visualise orchestral works vis a vis solo performers. I'd prefer an ideal seat in the concert hall.
@jebbishop3
@jebbishop3 5 жыл бұрын
you can hear some echoes of this in Webern's Passacaglia, op. 1
@DavidA-ps1qr
@DavidA-ps1qr 6 жыл бұрын
This demonstrates perfectly what Arnold Schoenberg could achieve before he went mad and changed classical music forever.
@didierfortune972
@didierfortune972 5 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@LendallPitts
@LendallPitts 5 жыл бұрын
All of Schoenberg's work was a logical progression from this and his other early pieces. Mahler reached a certain place and stopped. Schoenberg carried on, and made modern music.
@christophehlers2459
@christophehlers2459 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the premiere in March 1913 of his following piece became a historical event known as the "Watschenkonzert" ;-) (slap-in-the-face-concert in local viennese) because, as one of the witnesses stated, "the noise of the slap in the face was the most harmonious sound of the evening". Haha. The audience, after the former great success of "Verklärte Nacht" expected anything else than his Kammersymphonie No.1, Op.9, the strike of a new era in music. Its reaction is plausible to me, after this miracle of beauty we are listening to. .
@DavidA-ps1qr
@DavidA-ps1qr 4 жыл бұрын
@@christophehlers2459 Great comment.
@paulybarr
@paulybarr 4 жыл бұрын
@@LendallPitts No. Mahler didn't reach a certain place and stop; he reached a certain place and then died- and at the comparatively young age of 51. If you are at all familiar with the tenth symphony, then you should know that the progression was continuous.
@pianissimo5951
@pianissimo5951 2 жыл бұрын
22:40 it sounds like its beeing played backwards!
@patrickguillot1865
@patrickguillot1865 6 жыл бұрын
Ah... Le pourricitaire pour interrompre (deux fois ! ) le flux musical... c'est la première fois que je subis ça... C'est une première ? Je ne sais pas si la personne ici responsable se rend compte de ce que cela a d'intensément stupide - je ne dis pas d'un point de vue musical (elle en ignore tout), mais du point de vue commercial - pour lequel elle doit sûrement se penser très compétente ?
@francemusiqueconcerts
@francemusiqueconcerts 6 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, l'éditeur de cette partition a choisi - sans que nous ne puissions rien y faire - d'ajouter de la publicité sur cette vidéo. Nous ne pouvons (fort malheureusement) rien faire contre cela. Cordialement,
@patrickguillot1865
@patrickguillot1865 6 жыл бұрын
L'éditeur ? Universal Edition ? On sait que ces gens-là sont des épiciers bas du plafond (il se trouve que j'en sais quelque chose), mais ici, n'est-ce pas Google le seul responsable (coupable) en dernier ressort, de ces insanités cupides ?
@etienneleparisien1391
@etienneleparisien1391 3 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, téléchargez sur Goigle play l'application Free Adblocker Browser et vous pourrez écouter KZbin au travers de cette appli sans aucune pub.
@luisabaillod2068
@luisabaillod2068 3 жыл бұрын
Une influence wagnérienne?
@LauBeDeg
@LauBeDeg 3 күн бұрын
Interpretation to the core of its essence; no cheap sentimentality. No Karajan-like fruity rendering.
@jordifuentes5521
@jordifuentes5521 6 жыл бұрын
Una mujer confiesa en una noche triste que ha sido infiel y qué espera un hijo de esta infidelidad y muy fuerte el esposo la perdona y el amor que se siente en ambos se extenderá al hijo que espera este argumento del poema de xmen, se abre paso de poco a poco con el increíble movimiento artístico que quizás será la verdadera base del arte del siglo 20 al menos en su primera mitad que se llegará al denominar expresionismo alemán punto
@sonianordenson
@sonianordenson 2 жыл бұрын
But the couple are not yet married! She has not been unfaithful to him. Being single, she slept with a stranger because she wanted a child.
@zoompt-lm5xw
@zoompt-lm5xw 5 күн бұрын
​@@sonianordenson she could have her fiencé being the real father. It's not that dificult, no?
@jsamc
@jsamc 7 жыл бұрын
As a conductor must of the work takes place at rehearsal.
@mariusvanderlinden732
@mariusvanderlinden732 8 ай бұрын
Diese Musik war auch im Der Deutsche krimi Der Alte Staffel 1 folge 13 "Ein unkomplizierter fall" Deutschland über alles, wir sind dass volk.
@eddy_sonik
@eddy_sonik Жыл бұрын
👍I LOVE ! 💙⚪❤
@ducdeblangis3006
@ducdeblangis3006 4 ай бұрын
Boulez était meilleur chef d'orchestre que compositeur, selon mes gouts.
@francois-sergegulli2126
@francois-sergegulli2126 Жыл бұрын
Et ce cher Boulez dans sa très respectable intouchabilité serait-il transfigurable, lui ?!
@2029kb
@2029kb 3 ай бұрын
20:35 ❤
@Dylonely_9274
@Dylonely_9274 Жыл бұрын
26:40
@amitbenhur3722
@amitbenhur3722 Жыл бұрын
So many ads 😞
@l3p3
@l3p3 10 ай бұрын
Then get YT premium. Why you think you deserve stuff for free?
@nosegrindv4951
@nosegrindv4951 4 жыл бұрын
cough cough, good song.
@guillaume.pirard
@guillaume.pirard 6 жыл бұрын
wow, 5 interruptions for commercials, disgusting
@adriennowak3063
@adriennowak3063 5 жыл бұрын
Adblock ;)
@loredf
@loredf 2 ай бұрын
KZbin interrompe in continuazione.. vergogna.::
@esseerre123
@esseerre123 2 ай бұрын
Ne me jetez pas de projectile mais ça me fait penser à du Honegger (ou l’inverse)
@didierduplenne2325
@didierduplenne2325 Жыл бұрын
29:29
@SirLambda
@SirLambda 6 жыл бұрын
22:34.
@ezequielstepanenko3229
@ezequielstepanenko3229 4 жыл бұрын
I have a love-hate relationship with this piece. During the first half I feel a super charge of emotion, the second half I tend to fall sleep most of the times, I can't even recall how it ends
@ericoschmitt
@ericoschmitt 4 жыл бұрын
Ezequiel Stepanenko try this one, you will change your mind. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5mYiZZjp7qYnJY
@peaceandleisure3105
@peaceandleisure3105 4 жыл бұрын
spoiler alert - he forgives her, and they live happily ever after
@neilmurphy7554
@neilmurphy7554 Жыл бұрын
Your loss..... the ending of the work is exquisitely beautiful.......its a pity your attention span can't take the full journey.
@arthurtyler2687
@arthurtyler2687 2 жыл бұрын
they bounce around too much, this is not necessary. It's irritating. The Philadelphia orchestra or NY Phil don't do this. Just play the darn music.
@darioborrelli1888
@darioborrelli1888 2 жыл бұрын
S U B L I M E
@Maximilian2808
@Maximilian2808 6 ай бұрын
12:31
@rufuspleasance
@rufuspleasance 2 ай бұрын
23:02
@Naikonul
@Naikonul 4 жыл бұрын
This is Mahler on steroids.
@giulioodero5149
@giulioodero5149 4 жыл бұрын
34 "non mi piace": ma si può?
@jemmapesmarianne686
@jemmapesmarianne686 7 жыл бұрын
Interrompre de la musique classique par de la putricité, c'est un crime contre la culture, pourritures de publicitaires youtubesques, vous ne respectez rien.
@karlkinono
@karlkinono 5 жыл бұрын
Mets toi un ad block, ducon, au lieu de gémir. Bouffon.
@Terge812
@Terge812 5 жыл бұрын
C'est peut être grâce à la publicité que tu peux regarder cette vidéo gratuitement...
@PurpleRevolutionMusic
@PurpleRevolutionMusic 6 жыл бұрын
A work crafted with such divine excellence and impeccable beauty, even my farts don't smell as good as this music sounds
@yommawaywek1346
@yommawaywek1346 Жыл бұрын
Mais par pitié, arrêtez ces publicités !!!!
@anngrogan6343
@anngrogan6343 2 жыл бұрын
“The saccharine teat of Romanticism”? As if there’s sin in that? To prefer music from the 1800s And all is lost in class? What snobbery inheres within A person who claims to have The answers to what soars MY soul, But his soul does not salve. So tell me not what I “should” like Or music I “should” curse. ‘Tis best to leave it up to each; To pontificate is worse!
@laurenbenefeito8137
@laurenbenefeito8137 6 жыл бұрын
18 dislikes 😂🤦‍♀️
@Breathless999
@Breathless999 5 жыл бұрын
2019/12/30: 25 dislikes. Brainless/heartless aliens
@karimgiovanangeli495
@karimgiovanangeli495 Жыл бұрын
Cela m'évoque 1933 ,j'espère que l'histoire ne va se répéter avec cette extrême droite qui monte ..
@AlainLeboeuf
@AlainLeboeuf 3 жыл бұрын
out of académism style isn't?? dear Norman Saulnier.
@nemorable1
@nemorable1 4 жыл бұрын
But enough of levity.
@aidandavis7657
@aidandavis7657 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see, how weak can we play this incredibly emotional piece? Hmm, how about weaker than weak? 😒😒
@jemmapesmarianne686
@jemmapesmarianne686 7 жыл бұрын
a
@Laurent-tn5tg
@Laurent-tn5tg 5 ай бұрын
C'est le top du top pas wagner et ni Vivaldi ! Normal son élève était de ma famille i Guérard Guérard ottenwaelder
@muslit
@muslit 6 жыл бұрын
the orchestra did all the work. the conductor waved his hands
@noah129mc
@noah129mc 6 жыл бұрын
Either you've never been in an orchestra or you've never worked with a great conductor because that comment was complete bullshit
@fjjt5897
@fjjt5897 5 жыл бұрын
The work is made in the rehearsals, where the conductor says what the orchestra must do. In the concert, the conductor waves his hands to indicate whatever they did in the rehearsals. Being a conductor is not easy, and being a good conductor, such as Boulez, is harder. There is a rehearsal of Boulez conducting something by Alban Berg. I suggest you watch it and change your mind about a conductor's purpose in an orchestra.
@minniem-ms
@minniem-ms 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this is how orchestras work
@muslit
@muslit 2 жыл бұрын
@@fjjt5897 "...where the conductor says what the orchestra must do." Sometimes, sometimes not. I've played in orchestras for 63 years, with some of the greatest conductors. I should know. If you compare Boulez' early recordings with the later ones played by some of the best orchestras in the world, it was always apparent to me it was then that Boulez was considered a 'great conductor', which he never was. A friend who worked in the New York Phil. in the 70's told me that Boulez only worked on technical things like balance, intonation, and rhythm, nothing ever about musical matters or musical narrative. And there's more to musical matters than balance, intonation, and rhythm. For me this performance of Schoenberg is totally lacking in passion. Boulez' approach was: whatever is on the page, the composer's intention will emerge. Mahler said, "Music only begins with the notes."
@muslit
@muslit 2 жыл бұрын
@@noah129mc I've played with Leonard Bernstein, Zubin Mehta, Riccardo Muti (and recorded), Wolfgang Sawallisch, Yuri Temirkanov, Lorin Maazel, and others. I've played in orchestras for over 60 years. I'm sorry to say that excllent orchestras made Maestro Boulez look good, and I've heard it directly from numerous orchestral players. He was a conductor with zero interest in musical narrative and scant interpretive abilities. He conducted what he saw in the score. Period. But as Mahler remarked, "Music only begins with the notes."
@jaakkooksa5374
@jaakkooksa5374 4 жыл бұрын
Boulez is a terrible composer but he seems to do much better as a conductor :-)
@wanderlngdays
@wanderlngdays 5 ай бұрын
Boulez, as a composer, is one of the most influential and leading figures of the last 100 years
@jaakkooksa5374
@jaakkooksa5374 5 ай бұрын
@@wanderlngdays Boulez, as a composer, is the proverbial naked emperor :-)
@wanderlngdays
@wanderlngdays 5 ай бұрын
@@jaakkooksa5374 that’s your subjective opinion, but I stand with my previous statement: he, as a composer, is one of the most influential and leading figures of the last 100 years. And that’s an objective fact, whether you and/or I like his music or not
@jaakkooksa5374
@jaakkooksa5374 5 ай бұрын
@@wanderlngdays At least we can probably agree that this recording of Schönberg's music is very good?
@alainsilberman6125
@alainsilberman6125 9 ай бұрын
Interruptions scandaleuses de l'ignoble PUB!
@muslit
@muslit 2 жыл бұрын
Zero passion, as usual with this conductor.
@bernardriviere5868
@bernardriviere5868 4 жыл бұрын
Symphonie cacophonique pour autistes et dépressifs. J´aimerais savoir ce que Mozart penserait de cette....´´oeuvre´´.😅🤣😂
@didierduplenne2325
@didierduplenne2325 Жыл бұрын
Dépressif bien sûr ! ...mais laissons Mozart reposer 😀😂
@jeannotdenimes158
@jeannotdenimes158 2 жыл бұрын
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