Karajan, BPO, live in London, 1988: Schoenberg’s Verklärte Nacht

[@fideliofidelio1222]

Thanks for sharing

[@Music-Lover]

Thanks for watching!

[@ЕвгенийСитников-п3о]

Wow, Karajan and Schoenberg! Amazing!

[@lawrencecody9316]

.I first heard the BPO/Karajan on LP 25 yrs earlier..and was totally taken back by some of his recordings. I never imagined that one day I would see them "live"..but on this evening, after a much delayed start of well over an hour,(Live broadcast nightmare) Karajan walked out on to the stage, looking rather fragile, and being helped by some of the players, was greeted by a standing ovation, I had tears in my eyes to see such an unusual sight from an audience, even before a note had been played...something I had never witnessed at any orchestral concert..my dream had come true, I were hearing them live..The second half of the programme was Brahms` 1st Symphony... I had seen one of the greatest orchestra/conductor combination at long last, and as it became HVK`s last visit to London, as he passed away the following June, so makes this a performance with a lot of personal feelings..because I were fortunate enough before the concert to see Karajan and his wife arrive at the RFH Artists entrance, they were probably no more than 10 ft away.. I have this recording, as the BBC released it on cd..but a friend made an off air recording on my hifi for me,and is a much warmer sound than this BBC release..but the recording of what became a last visit, is preserved .. This recording always evokes all those memories every time I see, or hear this cd..thanks for uploading, and firing up some magical memories..

[@m.kostoglod7949]

You mean you have heard this exact performance right? Because Karajan was long dead by 1997

[@lawrencecody4085]

@@m.kostoglod7949 Yes, if this is the concert at the Royal Festival Hall in Oct 1988, which it seems to be, I were in the audience, I travelled 182 miles to London, and returned home the same evening, the rest of the programme was Brahms 1st Symphony, a short programme, but I had heard the BPO, and Karajan live..and it was a live broadcast, which started late..Karajan died in 1989, he was quite frail..

[@m.kostoglod7949]

@@lawrencecody4085 That's amazing, but there's more, you have heard the Transfigured Night live! What an immersing experience this must have been! And the reasons I adore this recording is because it's the orchestral version and most important, the tempo that Karajan picks here is amazing, I don't like when this piece gets performed gravelike slow

[@lawrencecody4085]

@@m.kostoglod7949 The string sound was the richest I had ever heard live, so important in this piece, along with the tempo, and in my opinion, the performance will never be bettered, even his studio recording didn`t match what I heard that evening at the RFH..and I feel the cd does not really do it justice. A friend of mine recorded the concertt on my hifi, on cassette, so was an off-air live recording, and the sound was warmer than it is on this cd, so I were disappointed by the cd, but at least, I can re-live when I heard them live, but nothing will ever replace being there..and is one of my concert most treasured memories, and I have seen/heard some of the finest orchestras, conductors in the last 40 yrs, that I only knew from Lps..but this one, stands out as the one I never imagined I would ever witness.and to think HVK died about 7/8 months, later, and was his last performance in London, makes it all the more poignant to me..

[@marthermkens7312]

Heavenly. Everytime above the clouds.....

[@barney6888]

Concert of a lifetime for those in attendance.

[@puccini4530]

You will never hear better.

[@dlhuo9366]

Amazingly beautiful - beyond words!! Karajan FOREVER!!

[@wavescrashinginside]

`I've just cying my eyes out beyound crying beyound sobbing missing my beautiful Daughter Pasha 16 while listening to this so beautiful music

[@makyhsmakyhs6766]

God gives you the true faith and hope, God bless her soul she, will be holding you hand and drives you to heaven, so be patient sir and pray for her, your loss is your hard test in life take it with complete faith and satisfaction and watch the light that would come from your heart with comfort and convenience ! 🙂

[@ВладимирГрибачев-й5ю]

Я был поражен этим произведением, впервые услышав его в 18 лет. Сейчас мне 60 и я пронес любовь к нему через всю свою жизнь. I was amazed by this masterpiece when I heard it for the first time at the age of 18. Now I am 60 and I have carried the love for it through all my life

[@marthermkens7312]

it is a masterpiece. For all of us. I heard this live at concerthause Berlin: from the first moment my tears were rolling...

[@JM-ul1fj]

This is the one of the best romantic music that I’ve ever heard! It tells about merely romance itself. Thank you for the clip! love from SouthKorea🎉

[@Music-Lover]

You’re welcome!

[@fideliofidelio1222]

WHAT does it tells you about romance?????☺

[@JM-ul1fj]

@@fideliofidelio1222well, it’s hard to explain the ‘Romance’ though words. Because language is a kind of framework and there is a limit to explaining all emotions. But This song can express, using dissonance.

[@alessandramaria7397]

Karajan forever!!!

[@duwir5959]

His cd with transfigured night is pure magic, one of his 7 world wonder (Metarmophosen+Verklärte Nacht+4 letzte Lieder (Janowitz), Bruckner 7 + 8, Shosti 10, Mahler 9, Meistersinger I, Ring, Boheme).

[@MrPianist91]

And Brahms Symphonies (1988)

[@karldelavigne8134]

Madama Butterfly, Falstaff, Schumann 4, Alpensinfonie, Zarathustra and Rosenkavalier. In fact, too many to mention.

[@aachoocrony5754]

@@MrPianist91 For the Brahms 4, if you want to hear the original version-Furtwangler/with the original orchestra and sound which was disappearing but thanks to Karajan they kept a small portion of it through his market identity. Bruckner 7+8? will have to see. He probably copies that too. I have a hunch Furtwangler learned a thing or 2 from Nikisch in regards to the Brahms.

[@RB-pi9ls]

Astounding performance

[@stefanufer608]

Huge thank you for the upload - Karajan’s final London appearance

[@makyhsmakyhs6766]

Yea, he worket a lot in England post w w 2

[@karajan3]

Really incredible performance!! I love really so much!!! thanks!!

[@liebestraumslm3908]

12:43 esse pesante... Incrível.

[@Dylonely_9274]

Liszt

[@marcap1000]

Magic! Thank you for sharing.

[@Kegeljan]

La version de référence pour grand orchestre à cordes !

[@BalbirSingh-gr2qk]

Eternal prayer for late Karajan

[@Lorbrulgrud]

😳😳😳 increíble. Gracias.

[@wuyipiano]

Amazing performance. Thanks for sharing!

[@이규완-y5m]

25 yr old Schoenberg!

[@brighidclaire]

Amazing! thanks for this!

[@renato45222]

Questo è un capolavoro assoluto della musica a cavallo tra XIX e XX secolo - prima che Schoenberg si dedicasse all' indagine dodecafonica - in cui il genio interpretativo e tecnico di Karajan non ha rivali, è semplicemente e sublimemente invalicabile. Consiglio anche la prima registrazione in studio del 1973 per la DG, che a mio parere resta una pietra miliare nella storia del disco. La storia di questo concerto registrato a Londra è singolare: a parte la ormai acclarata stanchezza del Maestro, provato dalla malattia alla schiena che non gli lasciava tregua, in quest' occasione a complicare le cose ci si mise anche il trasporto degli strumenti dei Berliner, via treno dalla Francia, che furono consegnati all'orchestra appena in tempo per cominciare il concerto. Quindi, assenza di prove come Karajan pretendeva sempre, anche quando il repertorio era straordinariamente familiare. Tuttavia questo non impedì una prestazione superlativa di direttore e orchestra, anche nella Prima di Brahms che costituì la seconda parte del concerto.

[@makyhsmakyhs6766]

Wonderful piece from a real gifted true composer !

[@jihyunsuh1255]

16:40 최애

[@Metasisic]

First definitive Transfigured Night, it also happens to be a very beautiful poem about male chastity.

[@cutegongju5330]

은희경소설의 정화된 밤을 읽고 벌써 5번째 듣고있네요. 긴 울림,,,

[@Music-Lover]

Thank you for mentioning the Eun Hee-kyung novel. It seems not to be available in English. If you happen to have a link to the Korean edition, I’d be thankful.

[@ПравнукБаяна]

Вот так должно звучать это произведение в оркестровом варианте исполнения!!!

[@pavelopsitos3949]

dalžno,e ty zvučaješ😇😜

[@m.kostoglod7949]

ну кстати это не самая обычная версия, тут темп чуть-чуть быстрее чем в узусе, но мне нравится так

[@aachoocrony5754]

Karajan is posing as the saviour of music.

[@warrenduffy1377]

23:01 for my own benefit

[@youngheelee5205]

피아니스트 김선욱님이 요즘 최애 playlist 라고 하셔서 궁금해서 들어와 들어요 감사합니다

[@Music-Lover]

You’re welcome!

[@hell_kaiser-01]

For Assignment

[@hhschrader8067]

Karajan found a way to let this music sound almost abstract. The sentimentality is lost or hidden. As if he had no heartfelt understanding of romanticism. This is polished music but not the way I think Schönberg meant it. Maybe for a London audience the right thing to do? Karajan and BPO can only be flawless, I guess. But this is not THE ultimate Performance. Sorry. 😀

[@makyhsmakyhs6766]

So, what is the ultimate ideal performance from your point of view about this piece by shohnberg ?

[@hhschrader8067]

@@makyhsmakyhs6766 I did not try to imply I knew what the "perfect performance is". I just implied I knew what it was not. But I'll give you an idea of what I am looking for. Schönberg's music is based on a German poem from the end of the 19th century (poem published in 1896, music composed in 1899). Schönberg at a later stage gave quite precise instructions and explanations of the relationship between poem and music. You can find it on the internet. The poem goes about a man and a woman taking a walk in a grove. It is dark, the moon shines and "walks with them". The woman tells the man she is pregnant - but not from him. The man replies "but a peculiar warmth glimmers / from you to me, and then from me to you. / Thus is transfigured ("verklärt") the child of another man; / You will bear it for me, as my own;" And the poem ends with "Two humans pass through the high, clear night." So the story the music tells is a melodrama, it's about human imperfection, independence of spirit, humaneness, nobleness, gentleness, magnanimity, warmth that prevails. Often you find very dark beginnings of performances of "Verklärte Nacht" - not this one though. Any scary, dark aspect is a misunderstanding. It's simply wrong. Or like Karajan's interpretation displaying the layers of this music in a sleek and elegant, smooth way. But "Verklärte Nacht" is not about elegance. It's about a deep, sweet, warm encounter of two lovers, an honest conversation, a turning point in a relationship. It's highly emotional, eternal and almost quiet. A "perfect performance" - in my opinion - should combine at least these three different and somewhat contradictory aspects.

[@makyhsmakyhs6766]

@@hhschrader8067 I agree with you but you didn't tell me who is the best to interpret shohnberg works, I mean the poem suits, like verklarte nacht , I knew that Karl bohm and herbert von karajan were the last guardians of the germanic music, but not with shohnberg, that is why I am asking you about the best conductors to interpret thses pieces, thanks.

[@hhschrader8067]

@@makyhsmakyhs6766 I listened to quite a few performances -- but there are sooo many. Three I liked most I'll give you links (but I am sure there are more I could like): kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5mYiZZjp7qYnJY Norwegian Chamber Orchestra, one more; kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5rPmKCEj96Insk&start_radio=1&rv=EilgmNZyUhg&t=666 Modigliani Quartet-Emerson String Quartet, just find out, one I loved maybe even more than the others - a Japanese orchestra - was deleted

[@makyhsmakyhs6766]

@@hhschrader8067 thanks a lot