I tried turning off streamer mode and IT WAS HORRIBLE

[@Arrge]

I just realized that I cut out the outro by accident, wanted to say that I don't blame people for throwing the game like this. It's just so common that I can't help but be frustrated by it sometimes. EDIT: To the people saying this happens because of low rank: My greatest achievement was getting 60% winrate in top 500 while having less elims per 10 than bronze players. (according to overbuff)

[@BobOrKlaus]

very understandable frustration tho, i cant relate but i feel you

[@jondoe8762]

having to play like this would be so annoying

[@Exterminator19861]

So you telling me if i wont change my name and people saw me poping off in2-10 games ago thay will coordinate all team ? And wonder why im doing better on other accounts kek. I litterally farm potgs on secondary account . And as soon when i go on my old main acount people hunt me down in packs .And im not even a streamer .

[@Hanzotaco]

I'd say go into their spawn if you can and have them all focus you. Seems like it might be an ez win if its a 3v1 and your team is pushing the payload. So 4v2 on for your team. Could even communicate to your team that they are just throwing the game, ie. wasting ults on you etc. Still that was some dogshit. They just let you win playing like that lol. I could see how its tilting though if yo end up still losing after being tortured the whole time.

[@IzThatit]

It reflects why your playstyle is more about getting sneaky off angle picks over aggressively chasing picks. With people knowing who you are they're always looking for you completely dividing their focus away from the other 4 on the team. However when players don't know who you are they can play normally and actually make the games tougher.

[@Annin_Mochineko]

I don't need to be GM to know that the bastion is hard focusing you, tunnel-visioning so hard that he didn't even tried to venn diagram ult you, straight up click three times in the same spot.

[@ashleyjohnson7433]

I will never understand people who use bastion ult like this.

[@spimbles]

ANIME BABES!!!!!!!

[@masift1494]

He also literally sprayed at the empty doorway in turret mode LMAO

[@masift1494]

@@ashleyjohnson7433true, it's so inefficient

[@Lazyy97]

most intellligent stream sniper

[@dah4x]

mad respect for your awareness of perspective and the psy-ops against the enemy team.

[@Awesomeo5000]

I would upvote but it is at 69

[@paulodasilva96]

The enemy team just wants the twerking oiled up video

[@ShubhankarChawla]

^This will break the curse Arrge.

[@Arrge]

oh god not again

[@D4rkkay]

​@@ArrgeCan't deny your destiny

[@M4lenia]

Once again Im on board

[@havefaithinnobody3575]

​@@Arrge We don't care about the sweats you fightin shake dat ass

[@atlantishorizon]

Very fun video to watch honestly. Seeing them loose because they hard focused you is so satisfying

[@San-jx1zd]

Not for arrge though.

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

Goodness that was a ridiculous match. Kudos for not just identifying the problem, but also taking your time to articulate when and where the shenanigans happen

[@ritchiefast7711]

8:20 Man I heard "Notice how this zenyatta unloads his balls" Noooooooo 💀

[@DJ-7-2-2-0]

That’s *exactly* what he wanted you to hear

[@nickcrawford2456]

Considering the absolute mad-on he had for Arrge the entire match, I feel that statement was quite apt, lol.

[@ramonvelasquez8431]

I guess the good thing that they know it's you is that it gives your teamates a chance to shine if they know how. For instance, at some point they were so focused on targeting you that they overlooked what the Kiriko was doing and she could capitalize on that, and so on.

[@AeIius]

I started watching you a few days ago and I swear I'm getting better at Hanzo, idk how 😅

[@cosmosxl326]

Prolly visual learning

[@jauspox]

like cosmos said, visual learning. He does things like positioning and movement and sonic arrow placement so much better than your average bronze hanzo you can actually pick up a lot from his gameplay just by watching him play

[@ninjapurpura1]

I dont play Hanzo, but I like his content. I started watching this guy a few days ago also.

[@everilliem3292]

Especially with PlayStation. Very baffling.

[@AeIius]

I'm getting play of the game almost every time, it feels so good. But then again it's only silver.

[@glubies]

respect for Arrge since he deals with all this targeting

[@Zyborgg]

It just sounds so weird to me that your team, that's in GM, wouldn't recognize openings when the enemy is chasing you. Similar to that part when winston jumps on you.

[@sniclops15]

Arrge has gotten so good that his mere presence causes the enemy to throw trying to chase him

[@axion4204]

I can speak from experience I was on a team, and the enemy team had a well-known streamer that I didn't know at the time. My whole entire team targeted them, I lost bc of that shit. Reported them all. All they want is the 15 minutes of fame. To kill the streamer. Throwing just to kill a streamer is childish, because if you're in Grandmasters it's normal to come across the same people multiple times. People who act out like that it clear they're gold players.

[@BigChessFan]

Who?

[@Anc1ent527]

Nah, that lineup in the start is nuts

[@ClackAttack2000]

“Notoriety comes at a cost.” -Hanzo

[@fastjeff6]

I know exactly what this is like. They keep killing me when they see me, but it's not because I'm good, it's I'm just easy to kill.

[@sugardonut2296]

💀💀😭💀

[@eriklunden5218]

2:48 5:28 8:04 I know it's painful, but I did get a good laugh.

[@ciestermr1848]

I wonder how other streamers deal with it? Or maybe it’s just hanzo that keeps getting bullied?

[@Arrge]

Hanzo gets the worst of it since he relies on shooting at unaware targets. For example soldier and tracer kinda just benefit from getting chased by fans.

[@San-jx1zd]

Hanzo has this second passive ability to hit his enemies nerves whenever he gets a kill . I just played Yesterday against a sweating tracer that I head shotted once in the first team fight so she went 100% sweating to the point where she was blinking without even knowing where the f"k she is just for me not to get the kill. Even going as far as challenging me for 1v1. And talking mad trash when the game ended (I lost that game). And that's just one of many scenarios that happens.

[@San-jx1zd]

@@vibe7416 but the hero is easily counter-able. And since hanzo relies heavly one prediction without luck and skill hanzo can't do jack sh"t even if the target In front of him is 1hp unlike junkrat where he blast you with a grenade thrown into your general direction and you can't dodge it by any means.

[@dirusj4006]

This is actually similar to the treatment tanks get a lot of the time now. As soon as the enemy team decides you must be countered at all cost you are forced to just half afk the rest of the match and often you end up being more useful playing wrong. Yeah you have a pretty good chance of winning because of it but it doesn't stop it from being rage inducing.

[@zegolem3607]

🎉

[@zegolem3607]

Me: dominates 1 teamfight with hog. Enemy team: ORISA, PHARAH, BASTION, ANNA, ZEN, SOMBRA.

[@calypsokitty15]

i cant imagine stuff like this. i feel for you, honestly. i just wish people would give their best instead of just focusing you, losing the match in the process

[@Tiaraments]

This is the moment Arrge becomes Heisenberg

[@axulfer4936]

Must be rough, I have had games like that, where just by playing hanzo and doing well they follow me everywhere, and most of the time throw match just to make sure I am not getting to play. But that is not crazy often, maybe 1 in 10 1 in 8 and sometimes it is just 1 dude. So I can't imagine how annoying that would be for you, prob like every 1 in 3 or 2 or some nonsense. Keep up the good videos Arrge!!

[@Sejjin]

I've been chased like this to the point the enemy lost because they kept leaving the point and pushing me into spawn. Though, I am a healer main, so...People really like to bully me. 😌 Nothing like winning via thirsty throwers though. You should play openly like this more often, you might just get top 1 because everyone's putting all their brain power into killing you.

[@tbtnr9851]

As an Ana main this hits hard

[@fallenangel57]

We bully healers cause y'all think you are the reason ur teams always win

[@aricockrell4557]

​@@fallenangel57a lot of the time they are tho. This game revolves very heavily around supports

[@fallenangel57]

@@aricockrell4557 yes true but most ana mains teabag for no reason

[@OpinionatedGamer]

Well in many situations killing the supports first is the way to go as it will help you win. But if you are hard focusing them when it isn't actually going to help you win that's really dumb. It is annoying getting hard dove tho. I wish supports in my game would let me know if they are getting hard focused so I could peel for them, I probably should be able to notice without them mentioning it but I'm not always super aware lol.

[@apocalypseap]

The Bastion's ults were really bad. Like, REALLY bad lol. "Slam all 3 in the same spot yeah that'll work!!"

[@EYETASTIC]

what do u think about the streamsnipers in dafran streams

[@youtuberobbedmeofmyname]

bogur has the best stream snipers

[@evilynx0]

how is this bastion in masters?? even i know not to shoot 3 times on the same spot and im gold

[@shemfps]

This happens a lot in gm1 lobbies where there is a lot of famous streamers

[@noobtv2033]

exactly like me when i play ana, the enemy keep target me and i ofcouse got caught all the times, it is really hard to hide with low mobility champ like ana, do you have any tips arrge ?

[@Crakinator]

Ana’s cooldowns are op. Save at least 1 for if u are ever in trouble, unless it is definitely worth it to blow both at once.

[@diogosousa7698]

i play more bap but sence you are a "sniper" try to be far if they going out of their way to hunt you down then get closer to your team so if anything happends you jump to them and they can protect you/kill him and keep one of the cooldowns ready especially the sleep dart

[@noobtv2033]

Yeah i did save my nade and sleep when i see the enemy go for sombra or tracer but i can only see sombra after she hack and shot me to death, i can deal with tracer somehow but if she ult i can't do a thing but thank for your tip @@Crakinator

[@noobtv2033]

Yeah it was a good ideal thank for the tip, just hope the team do save me :)@@diogosousa7698

[@rainbowunicornnun]

Try to stay out of range of divers' abilities. In other words, make them have to waste cooldowns to get to you. Ana is a sniper, so you can play far back. For example, play far enough that you force a Winston to have to use his jump to close the gap on you. That leaves him without an escape ability, and your team can then turn on him. Same principle with Tracer. Keep your ears peeled for where she is and rotate away from her. And again same idea with Genji, force him to have to dash to you to close the distance. The other thing I would say against divers is save your cooldowns for yourself (at least one of them, preferably both), not for your teammates. You can heal your team with primary/scoped fire, and keep sleep and nade for yourself. Finally, hopefully your teammates turn around to help you if you do all that. Oh and don't hang around after sleeping a target if you don't have the resources to finish them off alone. Move away from them and towards your team. I peaked m2 for what it's worth, so take this advice as you will haha.

[@tommysalami420]

They are just conditioning you to play passively and going for the final fight. It's what I do as reddit Lucio, sure I'm just diamond, but its a strategy that works when you know which players are playing smart. Distracting the playmakers is really powerful, as each second they waste time looking at me is another moment my team has with extra safety. But getting into someone's head and tilting them is the easiest way to win. As a content creator when you are the target it sucks, as while the game will be complicated, it is almost never fun to watch. Good luck Arrge you are awesome :)

[@dawoodmuzaffer9382]

i mean if conditioning the hanzo to play passively makes you lose the game, clearly there is something wrong with it

[@FlamingNinjaBoi]

This only works if, like in your example, it's one Lucio conditioning one or more strong opponents and not giving up too much in the process. In this case, the other team was legitimately committing an unnecessary amount of resources to try and kill a single Hanzo. (And often failing, anyways.) Bastion solo ulted him THREE TIMES. Solo ulting a Hanzo is one of the worst things you can do with Bastion ult - 99% of the time it will accomplish absolutely nothing. It's like if you do the Reddit Lucio style and end up with the most deaths on your team and the least elims. You've essentially failed in your role at that point, because you spent half the game respawning and getting no kills.

[@eykan_ow]

I'm no big strimmer, but this happens to me too after a long day of playing because people get tilted and want to hard focus me x) what they dont know tho is that i have 7 years of support in my belt so i can survive in some of the weirdest situations.

[@LimeSkittle]

How is that bastion not in silver when they use ult in that way? He doesn't even learn how pointless it is after the first two times of you casually getting out of the way.

[@ghostofuchiha3807]

Is there an option to report people for stream sniping? That Bastion literally threw all his ults away. Or does this just fall under griefing?

[@OpinionatedGamer]

by stream sniping do you mean focusing Arrge because he's a streamer or looking at Argge's stream to get info?

[@ghostofuchiha3807]

@@OpinionatedGamer well, the first one is actually just griefing. So the second one.

[@moathabdulla1139]

when he's using streamer mode is he only hiding his name or is it also otehr things?

[@ecciq]

Exactly how i feel just casually playing overwatch in quickplay

[@ecciq]

i pick widow im instantly jumped by sombra winston lucio genji ulting mercy. Enemy picks widow they have free range to sit back and headshot my clueless teammates that refuse to dive her as dive heroes

[@ecciq]

pick genji and the other team go winston mei sombra moira before i even get any elims. enemy genji gets free range to get 40 elims with no switches to counters

[@ecciq]

apparently getting more than 5 elims shatters ow players egos and then 3 of them hard focus me while my team lose a 4v2

[@bribriibribrii]

I cant with your accent 😭😭😭 i already saw like 5 of your videos and never got bored 😂😂

[@cool_dog2727]

I thought it would be like 1 or 2 chasing you and they lose every fight but damn I didn't expect more than that the whole game, but it is satisfying to see you pawning them like that. 😂

[@rons96]

if you want to don't let your emotions dominate you, I recommend in first place the practice of meditation or self hypnosis (to calm down, not every kind of hypnosis), then you should pratice your aim with workshops that use real heroes with realistic strafe movements. With the first practice you will learn about reach calm states of your mind more easily, and when practicing your aim, you need to pay attention in your breathing, it will accelerate by it self and became irregular, so then you must remember yourself to breath calmly and deep until you get used to doing it naturally. No one can beat the calm person. Last tip is: stay away from caffeine and other stimulants, especially those that increase adrenaline, because adrenaline is the worst opponent of calm emotion.

[@TheClownQueen]

What are you, Zenyatta?

[@rons96]

@@TheClownQueen okay, you can be ungrateful. Also zenyatta is right in all voice lines. I thought they were just cliché phrases from monks, but with practice I realized that it makes a huge difference. Being calm makes you make better decisions, and the opposite, being too emotional, makes you not even pay attention to the team's calls.

[@TheClownQueen]

@@rons96 why have a torb pfp and username, when you sound like a zen main

[@rons96]

@@TheClownQueen why you have clown in the name and doesn't work in a clown job irl? kid, please, stop, if you don't like my advise, just ignore it.

[@ZaryGrabusey]

@@rons96Zen would never call a stranger ungrateful for a joke, guess the Torb pfp fits

[@inka9174]

She broke up with me? Nah she broke I'm up

[@E_A_ja_V_V]

???

[@tyler6745]

👱👎💵👍

[@rxgz5722]

well usually streamer/oneshot characters dont really go good together people get so mad when they cant play the game because theres just the best hanzo or widow in there GM lobbies

[@paulusapfel]

Yeah, games with a god Hanzo/widow are by far the most unfun ones. Then there are games with a good ball. These ones are so annoying too. Games with that 3 chars (and good players!!) are the worst.

[@zoomerplayz6764]

I dont stream or anything, but I am basically a soft genji one trick in t500. A lot of people know me and do the most to play their offmains just to counter me. I can relate to an extent.

[@ashen_ix]

Deepest respect and gratitude. I am not a Hanzo player and I experienced this everytime I play. I mainly solo and usually use Reaper, Genji, Pharah, and Tracer for both Unranked Play matches and Ranked Play. My top three heroes are Reaper, Genji, and Reinhardt. I am new to this game however I played FPS before. Still newb when it comes to FPS Strategy such as Overwatch Before Overwatch 2, I played Paladins. Many OW veterans say Paladins is more interesting. It is challenging but I wouldn't recommend the game for beginners. 5 Loadout Slots in Paladins are very complex to understand when applied in the actual battlefield. Paladins I played in PC, as well as OW2 currently I didn't know Streamer Mode in OW but sounds more enjoyable and exciting. I don't mean any offence in terms of skill as it's a personal aim towards why the person play the game in the first place. I mainly Solo Queue both Unranked and Ranked. This game is suggested for parties to have fun together. Solo players out there, add some contacts to join the game together. It will be more fun Great game as always. I love your channel when playing Hanzo. My Genji mentor is Necros haha. Thank you as always Master Arrge 😆

[@BigChessFan]

Is english not your first language?

[@Almer1989]

Now you know is the same when you play with widowmaker and you do one shot in a fight.

[@chmney2830]

i play without a reticle. can you do it as a challenge ?

[@Halorym]

And you know that guy went Winston because he's a meta lemming that remembers when Winston was considered a Hanzo hardcounter.

[@matgui4052]

Bro bastion and zen covering fire is oht of this world, they'd rather send orbital bombardment to your location rather than even think about the payload

[@xsufu]

I don't know why, but it happens to me like 6 in a 10 games. Every Hanzo considers it his duty to shoot only with me after his first death in the head, almost always against me either Pharah with Mercy pocket, or Genji, or Sombra and Tracer. I'm so tired of this

[@jinch1]

Yeah i can tell they are literally sacrificing points just to make your game more unenjoyable 😭 actually insane that every bastion ult was for you

[@deo782]

Isn't it possible to set the stream delay to 10-15 seconds? This would solve the problem

[@mentarium]

most people aren't watching the stream. they recognize him in game by name and hard focus him then. he normally plays on his account with the russian name so nobody knows who he is, but i'm pretty sure he switched the name back to arrge for the experiment.

[@qrae_qrae6629]

so arrge renaming to his name is basically suffering from success

[@EmoElmo007]

Exactly why Kenzo changes his to streamer mode. People will go out of their way just to hard focus him and ruin not only his game but likely there's.

[@pettym3]

wait so if you turn streamer mode on they can't see your name? the players not the people watching the stream

[@JuliyyS]

Yup you can Hide ur name and players name

[@PutTheCookieDown]

Washed up hanzo obviously. How the mighty have fallen.

[@teamsk259]

can't you just communicate that w/ your team? A simple heads up that they're focusing you would probably push the match into your team's favor. Maybe we don't see / hear it in the videos, but it seems like there isn't much communication w/ the rest of your team.

[@Arrge]

Nahh not worth it to confuse my team. At best they would overcommit to helping me. Worst case scenario they can't adapt anyways but I try to play more aggressively and get picked off and we lose

[@PowyMeowy]

Pavlov the enemies until they forget you exist 8:57

[@Kiba825]

That was kinda funny, thanks!

[@youinacoffin]

i believe u can use this to your advantage if u communicate to your team, maybe the other dps can be sombra and back cap or somth

[@Kishiiknight]

Or just lead em away from the objective thats what you can do when communication doesn’t work

[@demifolk8940]

the fact that you had an ana yet the bastion threw his ult on you every time is evidence enough lmao

[@FlamingNinjaBoi]

Oh, absolutely. I'm only gold DPS and even I know that is... horrendously bad. You don't solo ult Hanzos. They just dodge it...

[@MrVlodato]

zen for sure was being a weirdo about it. but i dont buy the winston because any winston is going to jump a hanzo with no mercy, a gold winston is going to jump on a hanzo with no mercy. Its just common sense.

[@thesanchez11able]

Streamer mode hides your btag from your stream-audience. Not from your in-game lobby (friendly's or enemies).Hiding it is just client side. No changes for anyone else.

[@khrydioseso4614]

This sample size is not enough to prove your points tbh. I was hoping for different games, I could record the same stuff sometimes eventho I don't stream

[@reddragon2943]

Arrge. I think if they are all just Focused on you. your team will always win. soo keep playing the game with your name. 😅🤣😂 not only that. it gave you a chance to learn a new way to play Hanzo and adapt. so be happy. :D

[@shuzilong]

My god, Arrge theres only 10 levels of difficulty in this game, you managed to hit difficulty 12! People stream snipe too much...

[@josephreynolds2401]

Overwatch not having streamer protections was one of the reasons it lost a lot of streamers to valorant and the like. The kind of good press that many popular streamers bring is way more value than the cost to program streamer protections. And with OW's huge launch and sales? Everyone and their sister was playing it.

[@gomericus4122]

dang I get focused by people as hanzo too. I must be arrge :)

[@TrickyTrixster]

I mean now people know to just focus the hanzo with the funky name

[@Ninjawy_OG]

Arrge-chan is amazing

[@bu3adel944]

U try to outsmart people and play in different ways than normal everyday hanzo players. Also, solo hanzo can be killed easier than almost all support heroes. Yesterday, i played ashe in diamond. The enemy doom was noticeably focusing me, especially with his ultimate, although i have ana, for instance. In the end, he posted his Twitch stream, and i went to his channel to see if he was really coming for me or not (claimed top500 in his bio, idk who he is). I just outplayed him once and ran away (i think i killed 2 and then played Bob, who killed 1, also). He was angry and was looking for me and saying ohhh there he is and choosing me between 2 support and me or dive, then solo ult me. Now, why kiriko and ana can't peel for ashe vs. a sole doom is different, but sometimes outplaying people make them rage and come for u.

[@CowLORD420]

I want to be so good at something that I literally can't enjoy it

[@Terwano]

A lot of this is just Hanzo things. People lose their shit against hanzo and froth at the mouth. They just run around focusing you all game long. The fact that blizzard keeps nerfing the character doesn't help at all when he's already a glass cannon.

[@koblasco9289]

Bruh that bastion could have baited the leap with one shot then followed up with the other 2. How tilted do you have to be to spam brainlessly an ult three times in a row? What the actual fuck.

[@thefastlane7659]

Dude i just realized that this video was posted 1 minute ago XD fun video

[@crokeyza-team7257]

The winston was not fanboy. The bastion and zen tho..

[@bananamonkeygaming14]

nah the winston was hard focusing him when arrges team almost got point

[@Arrge]

He threw first point to chase and meme me in spawn.

[@crokeyza-team7257]

@@Arrge I'm gm 5 ball and I often go for snipers in overtime situations. I think saying he was throwing was a big stretch

[@jomoju]

So that's new strategy , getting being focus for the whole team while your team is pushing the payload? 😅 I mainly healer and ive been in match like this when you know other players and try to go for instead of doing you part

[@moneymoses]

Zenyatta unloading his balls on you😩👌

[@F4xP4s]

I get hard focussed on hanzo quite a lot too…

[@MMehdi-he4uo]

tbh if i was playing against someone i knew, i'd try to duel with them all the time too. It sounds fun

[@theultimatedoom1627]

Ah i did not know you play cod zombies 😂

[@daedora1021]

Bruh shit like that always happens when ur a threat to the enemy team, playing overly passive isnt a solution. For example on fjest point u shouldve just played bottom with ur supps so u could peak more aggressively with heals the assasin hanzo playstyle shit isn't that bad but plsyung like that all the time is a throw u should swap between spamzo and odd angle hanzo play style depending on the situation

[@Gigachad-qi1eg]

Bro...just twerk oiled up

[@E_A_ja_V_V]

Your my favorite KZbinr ❤❤❤

[@E_A_ja_V_V]

I'm finn like you😊❤❤

[@Amer_S]

Frustrating and definitely not fun, but what a compliment they're giving you by wetting their pants and hard focusing you just by seeing your name in the enemy team. You're in their heads way more than they are in yours. Still, sucks on the other hand.

[@neromh]

i love you arrge

[@emacliftsalot]

It could also be that bro is playing sig on a dive map

[@RegyXD]

love u arrge

[@jpric155]

Agree sounds a lot like Arrge.

[@Nero-lm6wj]

I think this would make no difference if it was T500 lobbies, since no one would care that you’re a streamer or whatever. But yeah, lower than GM1 is asking to be sniped and hard focused probably.

[@jinnwinn5578]

Day 3 of asking arrge to twerk oiled up

[@ghostofuchiha3807]

I would love to see the whole match from the bastion clown's perspective.

[@nicoleibundgut534]

That was funny to watch. This look more like a human playing hanzo.

[@deviljin_x]

8:21 his WHAT?

[@blind_aggression]

self-esteem so low the only thing that makes them feel good about themselves is killing a streamer a few times

[@Alliancecntrl]

idk why ppl do this when i get a streamer in my game i just play how i normally would there just normal people who are good at the game so why try to make the game boring for them by focusing them

[@Rumplenutskn]

where is day 4 of Arrge oil twerk request guy at?

[@BobOrKlaus]

that bastion was so bad at using his ultimate lmao, just to maybe get a kill on you

[@PurpleMoon799]

ill be real i still have no clue how streamer mode works but if it helps then thats great 😂

[@yirtimd2faterland986]

Well I guess this a price of being popular bro.)

[@ellowell8160]

okay YES the point of this video was to show how irritating this is BUT that was also extremely entertaining to watch so hm

[@kahlanamnell1386]

❤️ you are loved Arrge

[@Secret0zv]

This man really said the Winston was targeting when.... they dived.... the Hanzo.... by himself on high ground? Ok, maybe there's a bit of targeting here, but this is just delusional.

[@Rizzitriver]

People in the comments are wild, they are justifying weirdo behavior & acting like this is normal. Other streamers have complained about stream sniping, yes, stream sniping IS a problem. It isnt fun getting focused on over & over to the point of where the enemy team is directly targeting you & throwing the game. Idk why ppl wanna defend this weirdo behavior, but I personally think more should be done about stream snipers.

[@ScriptumChannel]

It wasn't throwing, even for zen, until it was dangerous for you. And you have big chance to lose vs that "throwing" team, so don't call them like this

[@extremelight9258]

A team with throwing players almost or actually winning isn't very shocking since I've seen it happen many times before. I watched an OW1 match where both Supports refused to heal their teammates, even when the teammate in critical health was standing right in front of them. Both Supports instead kept flanking the enemy backlines and dying, so no value from their flanks. Almost every team fight was a 4 v 6. Can you guess who won the match? It's the team that wasn't getting healed and had two throwing Supports. If a team has throwing players and your own team fails to take advantage of that, then losing to them is very much a possibility and not surprising.