Arrma Granite Grom Durability Test & Full Review! | Worth YOUR $$?

[@right-behind-you]

As someone thats used to Walmart R/Cs, the grom has me excited. Feel like its a good starter.

[@DoRC]

Absolutely. It'll definitely be a big step up from Walmart RCs

[@spaceman022]

Just got this since I no longer have space for a bigger rc.Freakin love it

[@DoRC]

Little cars are great for small spaces. People who don't give them a chance definitely miss out!

[@Joe-mp8zg]

I’ve always had bigger rigs, especially love my XMaxx. But can’t play them with my little boy, so I started looking into smaller scale RCs. I got the HBX & MJX ones, but I’m so glad that Arrma came up with their own. It’s about time! I just ordered one!

[@DoRC]

Awesome I don't think you'll be disappointed. Let me know how it goes :-)

[@Macgyver46]

Have been looking at the brushless hyper go models for awhile. Still bought the Grom and love it. Ordered the servo mount last night and picked up a few spare parts at my LHS I should have checked for a diff. Heard a rumor that the upgrades will start becoming available mid November. Im definitely getting the shcocks and better diffs.

[@DoRC]

Same here. I've got pretty much all the upgrades ordered. Can't wait to get them!

[@Logan_gamble]

Just drove one the other day. Not a bad little rig. Great video. 👍

[@2Amend4Life]

Love mine. Running stock for now.

[@DoRC]

Definitely an awesome little truck!

[@kilaueaproductions4210]

0:52 Those are more like pine spears than needles. Lol

[@DoRC]

:) thanks for watching!

[@mrtambourineman6107]

I must admit, I was surprised at why they didn't make this a 1/16 scale

[@DoRC]

Yeah I would be really interested to know what they're justification for making it 118th scale was. It seems like 1:16 or even 114th scale would have been more versatile and wouldn't have really cost that much more money. I'm sure they have their reasons and it's still a fun little car!

[@frankymal8640]

Good vid, well put together and straight to the point as usual. What are the wheels / tyres you had on the 16889 Pro in the video?

[@DoRC]

Those are trencher 2.2s. they are kind of too big for the 16889 though. If you combine them with big power you're going to break things.

[@SRGamingyoutubechannel]

Interested in where you got the brushless setup

[@DoRC]

Take a look at my video on the brushless upgraded itself. I discuss the details of the upgrade in there.

[@seanconnolly2179]

Another great video, hey looks like some of the upgrades are showing up on the website , they have the servo mount in stock I got it ordered nice 👍 🎉🎉🎉

[@DoRC]

I saw that. Hopefully the rest of them show up soon!

[@CanadianRC96]

I just cut the tabs off the esc and used them to mount the servo 😂 mounted brushless esc ontop

[@DoRC]

Nothing wrong with that!

[@alainbellemare2168]

Nice but the body attachement system is a pain to the point that i quite trying to attach it and i tape it to the frame instead

[@DoRC]

Yeah it's definitely not one of their better clipless systems.

[@EthanRC_MTB]

What drill do you use when working on your RCs?

[@DoRC]

It's a no-cry driver that I customized. I actually have a video coming out on it soon and I'm going to be giving one away.

[@EthanRC_MTB]

Thanks for the info!

[@DoRC]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching :-)

[@mrtambourineman6107]

I hope they do a Typhon & Big Rock now too at the same scale ⚖️

[@DoRC]

They're at least going to do a typhon. They accidentally had the chassis for it up as a replacement part for a little while on their site :-)

[@mrtambourineman6107]

@DoRC very cool ! Deffo get one 👌 Typhon is my favourite 3s

[@DoRC]

Yeah I'm hoping for the long wheelbase chassis and then wide arms and being able to make 1/14th scale out of it.

[@mrtambourineman6107]

​@@DoRCI'm surprised Armma didn't make it a 1/16th scale

[@jacksonrcaviation]

Real nice indeed, we have subscribed😎

[@DoRC]

Awesome thanks for the sub!

[@river_4078]

Hey would you say the grom is more reliable/durable than offbrand competition? i just dont wanna buy a car than brake it first day and have to wait a week for tiny $20 part

[@DoRC]

I think the Grom is probably the best overall platform when it comes to mini RCs. It's not perfect but it has a lot going for it

[@river_4078]

@ thanks

[@Madprax]

Best honest review. ( + very relevant HBX 16889 pro comparison ) Arrma's drivetrain is far from being bulletproof : metal pin screwed in the plastic wheel axles should wear very fast. Same with the plastic tiny gears inside the diffs , and again plastic diff cups... It holds well during most reviews , but after more packs , Arrma designed the drivetrain so you will have to pay again for metal wheel axles + upgraded diffs with metal cups (of course you cant buy diff cups only...) either hop up costs 50 bucks each ... and still no brushless... (brushed stock its boring SLOW , and motor gets super hot) This tiny truck becomes VERY expensive for its poor perfomance . 1/18 is just too small outside (and too big inside.) Nice but that 's all , truly speaking. 😉

[@DoRC]

I'm not sure how many packs you have through yours yet but I've got quite a few through mine and other than that one output cup I haven't broken anything. And that's on brushless power which is probably 50% more than it was meant to have with the stock system. I really do think this is a very durable setup And it's actually been stronger than I expected it to be.

[@1peanut]

Maybe its your driving mate. Even large highly upgraded RCs it is best not to land on throttle and such. Driving style can make or break anything. My grom has held up far beyond expectation. I am very impressed with this little truck.

[@DoRC]

@1peanut Yeah I'd have to disagree with the original comment. I've got a lot of packs through my truck before upgrading the differentials and as long as you're reasonable with bashing it the plastic parts really do hold up well.

[@Madprax]

​@@DoRCthat s why my 2 last comments have been deleted... because everybody know Hbx 16889 PRO is much better bang for the bucks... and Arrma Grom is just overpriced crap with poor stock performance... 😉😘

[@DoRC]

@@Madprax what do you mean by canceled? I haven't deleted any comments from anyone. I really think it just depends on what you're looking for The HBX is a fun truck but it's also cheaply made, hard to work on and has so much slop in everything that over maybe 20 miles an hour becomes pretty hard to control. Don't get me wrong. It's a fun little car but it definitely has its downsides. The Grom is more expensive but it's also a better designed and better put together vehicle. I don't think either one of them are bad per se I just think that they will likely appeal to different demographics.

[@joseCalderon1976]

I bash my big rc trucks and stay away from people so that I don't care! Hehehe. Good stuff brother.

[@DoRC]

Yeah there are just places though that these little guys can get away with that you just can't get away with on bigger platforms. Some of that bashing was on a very small beach at a campground right next to other families. They didn't even give me a second glance other than the kids thinking it was cool. If I had a 1/10 scale or especially a 1/8 scale vehicle out there Not only would they probably be giving me bad looks but I'd also be concerned about hitting one of them and hurting them. That's where these little guys shine!

[@japanesecinema6736]

Is the body shell polycarbonate? I am thinking about purchasing a granite grom and repainting the body.

[@DoRC]

Yes it is. It's screen printed though so I'm not sure how you would get the old paint off. Probably would be best just to buy another body as I'm sure they're pretty inexpensive.

[@japanesecinema6736]

​@@DoRCty for the quick reply! This would be my first RC in many years...

[@Luke-en2tk]

Have you been able to get the spare part you broke yet?

[@DoRC]

I literally just broke it this morning :-) I looked online and they appear to be available though.

[@Luke-en2tk]

@@DoRC I was just curious as I haven't seen any of the Gorgon bits listed yet. We are very different here in the UK we have smaller brands such as FTX whom have much better part support than Arrma

[@DoRC]

@Luke-en2tk ah ok. Yes spare parts are already available and I think have been since day one.

[@1peanut]

just got my grom and it has a huge steering delay. any suggestions ?

[@DoRC]

I would contact Horizon. That's not something I've heard anybody else complain about or experienced myself so you might have a defective radio or servo

[@mauriciobuitragoosorio230]

Men your opinión latrax teton vs arrma granite grom? What is best?

[@DoRC]

Granite grom all day long. The latrax platform wasn't the best when it was new and that was a long time ago.

[@redndeyes]

Latrax struggles. My only true regret purchase.

[@DoRC]

@redndeyes Yeah I enjoyed mine when it first came out but the hobby has definitely moved on since then. They are simply outdated.

[@alainbellemare2168]

Bought it for my dog to chase , small poodle , it s perfect for that purpose

[@DoRC]

Sounds like a good dog toy :-)

[@JFlyer1973]

Ok so gotta ask… how’s this guy stack up against what I would feel is it’s true target for competition… the Teton?

[@DoRC]

They aren't even in the same league. This is far far better.

[@JFlyer1973]

@@DoRC really?? Could you elaborate some maybe in terms of in what way it’s much better? I was really trying to decide which for adding 2 little yard bashers (very small yard) to our fleet.

[@DoRC]

@@JFlyer1973 it's far easier to work on, more durable, faster, better handling, better equipped, has a great first party upgrade path and is just overall a better truck.

[@JFlyer1973]

@@DoRC well now that’s good to know! Thanks man!

[@yhsbu]

They have weak differentials that do not like to slip and grab in the grass. I replaced mine with the metal ones and problem solved. My son drives it and he loves it. Of course, as dad, I get on edge when things break that shouldn't.

[@DoRC]

Yeah the stock differentials definitely aren't the best.

[@lowridr2]

I don't think anything can touch the mini E-Revo VXL that things a little pocket rocket but its twice the price

[@DoRC]

Ehh. They Are pretty fragile and much harder to work on.

[@E.H.Tatman]

E-Revos are fun when they actually work. I break something on mine pretty much every time I use it. The Haiboxing and Hyper Go actually doesn't break so easily.

[@E.H.Tatman]

@@DoRC my Merv has a lot of upgrades, it makes it faster than the HBX, MJX, etc. The issue is that you have to do upgrades just to cover the flaws, such as shim the differential to keep it from breaking. MJX had issues with the differential on some of the models, but the newer ones have better differentials. Meanwhile Traxxas just keeps making the same flaws where you actually have to buy the parts to upgrade it. The Merv is better when you dump money in it, but it is weak and sucks right out of the box. Lately, I have been using the Hyper Go H14BM and I love it. The Merv is not a real basher so it shouldn't be compared to the Grom or Hyper Go anyway. Keep posting videos, I enjoy seeing the different RC cars.

[@DoRC]

@@E.H.Tatman I agree that today the Traxxas isn't really a serious basher but like I said when it first came out it was and Traxxas still acts like it is so I think the comparison is okay. I'm just not sure something comparing poorly should shield it from being compared. Anyway thanks for watching Glad you enjoyed :-)

[@polymetalalloy]

*Goes camping to escape the noise of the city. *jack wagon brings his RC.

[@DoRC]

This is a tiny near silent RC car that I was bashing on my private campsite. I think the world will forgive me :-)

[@polymetalalloy]

@@DoRC the woods are near silent. Not your whining electric drivetrain. You install that bear box on your private campsite? Lmao

[@DoRC]

Have you ever actually been to a campground? Ever hear the screaming kids barking dogs music playing engines running campers being set up and torn down generators running etc? My little RC car is probably one of the quietest activities going on at that campground. By private I meant there's nobody else on that campsite for me to bother.

[@polymetalalloy]

@@DoRC sounds like a really nice private campground. Enjoy that

[@DoRC]

@@polymetalalloy Yeah it's indicative of any of the national or state parks around Florida. Seriously though I don't know if you've actually used one of these little cars but they make almost no noise and are so small that people don't even notice you're using it.

[@colemaynard2146]

What motor and esc combo is that?

[@DoRC]

Check out my brushless conversion video. Everything's detailed out in there.

[@daylightdies7194]

I'm still going to hold of on this one until upgrades are available its not seeming worth the £130.00 price tag

[@DoRC]

Yeah it just depends on your goals. It's definitely a quality product but out of the box there are better values I think.

[@Dumbedits2]

Is it loud?

[@DoRC]

No it's very quiet.

[@samintrepid]

Which one model of Hobbywing quicrun you install in this truck ? it the quicrun BL30 or bigger ?

[@DoRC]

10bl60 but mostly because it's what I had. Runs nice and cool though even without a fan.

[@RC4us]

you should see mine with the tires from my bezgar its pulling double backflips off the wall now an it almost triples

[@DoRC]

Nice!

[@magnusstone]

Arrma has announced that all unreleased and future production groms will use the “v2” full metal oil filled diffs!

[@DoRC]

I don't think that's quite right. According to their post on their Facebook page it looks like the new stock differentials will have metal planetary gears but it looks like that's the only change.

[@andyroo8uk685]

130uk pound the groms are and for that price you can get more but not quality ...and i brought a remo1631 pro like 4 years ago all metal ...6 screws to get the diff not 10 ;) ...i just cant justify paying 130uk pound on it when like a mew4 is 60uk pound brushelss all metal gears oil shocks

[@DoRC]

I'd have to see that 1631. I looked at a picture of it and can't really see how it would get you to the differential it only six screws. It looks like it's the standard design where the middle top plate has to come off, then the shock tower than the housing above the differential. That being said there are definitely other options out there than the grum but in my experience none as high quality.

[@UKMrMedical]

Dose it come with remote I’m so confused

[@DoRC]

Yes all of the Groms come out of the box with absolutely everything you need to get started including remote battery and charger

[@JesusMorones-bj2ym]

It does and the battery too

[@CK4RC]

I just picked one of these up to compare to the max smasher. I’m curious to compare a traditional basher versus a straight axle monster.

[@DoRC]

Let me know what you think :-)

[@jerryhermann7233]

Just get one. Its a no brainer

[@DoRC]

Agreed. In the grand scheme of the hobby it's pretty inexpensive and a lot of fun!

[@1peanut]

Arrma is going to make a typhon grom and a senton grom maybe a Kraton grom.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I saw the long wheelbase chassis that they had listed for a short period of time when they first released the Grom. Should be fun to see what they come up with!

[@johnellefa]

For that price imo it's better to get the hbx competition. Getting parts isnt that bad but ofcourse, results may vary. However what the grom does have that makes me wish I got one is the battery tray. Not surprising the rear diff went. That's usually what breaks first among all of these minis as soon as you swap to brushless Excellent video as always brother (put bigger wheels on it 😅)

[@DoRC]

Yeah as soon as I'm able to get the upgraded differential for it I will be putting bigger tires on it for sure. I'm also not surprised that The rear differential went but I am surprised about how long it took. This thing took a lot of abuse and I finally was able to kill it when I was actually trying to kill it so can't really blame it for that. I think especially with the stock system the drivetrain in this thing would hold up pretty much indefinitely.

[@mrtambourineman6107]

2 more days wait and ill have my Grom 😊

[@DoRC]

Nice!

[@KevinConnelly1980]

Looks like Montana ❤

[@DoRC]

Not even close :-)

[@TheRustyPlace]

It actually looks very durable compared to the 1/10th granite.

[@DoRC]

Yeah so far other than damaging one of the differentials when I was trying to break it in the latest video on it It's been bulletproof.

[@thecanadianrcboyz]

I have a garnite

[@DoRC]

One of these or the 1/10th model?

[@billzkustomz]

No. because reflex 14mt exists

[@DoRC]

Yeah the reflex is a much better car but it's also a lot more expensive. I don't really consider a car that costs almost twice as much to be direct competition.

[@billzkustomz]

@@DoRC 215 right now. And how much did that brushless system cost? Reflex comes brushless

[@DoRC]

@@billzkustomz Yeah like I said it's definitely a better vehicle but it's also in a different price range I think. I just think that something that costs that much more isn't really directly comparable. That being said that's just my opinion and my opinions worth just about as much as anybody else's :-) the 14mt is definitely an awesome truck!

[@billzkustomz]

@@DoRC my point is by the Time you go adding the parts to upgrade it you're over what the reflex costs. Also you can get the 14t right now for 169

[@DoRC]

@@billzkustomz Yes if you do the upgrades. I guess what I was saying was that you can buy the Grom and use it as is right out of the box. It's still pretty fun. The brushless upgrade isn't required on it. I do understand what you're saying though. The initial value on the Grom isn't as good as some other options.

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Pass

[@DoRC]

Don't like small cars or don't like this one?

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

1/7 Big Rock Bash!

[@DoRC]

@rccarsandmusic2641 I have one ordered!

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

@@DoRC ken I gave up on small ones

[@chrisdbarb3r]

Pass

[@DoRC]

Do you not like small RCs or just not this one?

[@deltazero3796]

Pass.

[@DoRC]

Don't like small RCs or just don't like this one?

[@ninthislandrc]

I'll be honest. I was all set to get one of these. For its size, it's perfect for me to take on OTR (ie. over the road) jobs. Unfortunately, in doing further research, or appears that all...and, when I say 'all', I mean ALL...of the upgrade parts mentioned by you, and others, have been "pulled" from The Arrma & Horizon Hobby websites. What's up with that? As others have said, until/unless those upgrade parts are back to being listed, I'm NOT buying...and, I have a strong feeling a LOT of others also won't be purchasing these.

[@DoRC]

I don't think that they were pulled from the sites I think they were accidentally listed to begin with and were never meant to be listed yet. I talked to Horizon about my order and they told me that none of the upgrade parts are actually in yet which is why they aren't listed. I don't think that's indicative of a problem just a mistake someone made initially

[@ninthislandrc]

​@@DoRClooking at it from one perspective, I could agree, it is possible that said upgrade parts were 'accidentally' listed early. However, looking at it from a different perspective, most manufacturers are known to list such things early, and then either list them as "coming soon", or "pre-order".

[@DoRC]

@ninthislandrc Yeah maybe so. A few of the parts are still listed on the Arma site but others aren't. I still have all the parts pre-order that were listed and it hasn't been canceled so I guess we'll see. I don't think it would be in their best interest to not have the upgrade parts as I'm expecting that those parts will all be in an EXB version eventually but time will tell.

[@GeddyRC]

Shortage of parts is always an issue with new cars. Happened with my Kraton 4S after it was released, couldn't get anything for months.

[@DoRC]

@GeddyRC Yeah it was worse during the COVID shortages but has actually gotten quite a bit better. Normal spare parts are available now and the upgrades should be available soon. I'm not worried about it :-) Thanks for watching!

[@joshobrien7708]

MJX hyper go is better imho, cheaper, brushless out of the box, and it has full metal differentials...Grom has plastic gears inside diff....Don't get me wrong i love Arrma but Granite Grom is overrated.

[@DoRC]

I agree that there are better out of the box values but the grom definitely does have some advantages

[@mesothelioma6465]

The MJX hyper go is awful! It had a TON of slop in the steering, it’s a pain in the ass to work on, it’s got ten different size screws, it takes weeks to get parts from China, etc…

[@mikeschiavoni5973]

2mm screws are a plus over most others.

[@DoRC]

Yeah and it's not just a screw size. There are only two different types of screws in the entire platform excluding things like the upper shock mounts and motor mounting screws. You also don't have to rip 3/4 of the car apart just get a differential out.

[@mikeschiavoni5973]

@@DoRC i know, its very well made. And sometimes plastic to plastic wears less than metal to metal. And i know im gonna get shit for saying that but its true.