Arrma Outcast 8s vs Traxxas Xmaxx 8s

[@LordPrometheous]

It's so cool that such a simple thing--an R/C vehicle can bring so much joy, and make people forget about life's problems for a little while. I am so glad I got back into this hobby. It's way too much fun.

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

When my friends ask me what my favorite RC is I say "my next one"

[@2blades_rc650]

This is a shirt worthy quote hahaha i have read it over and over and i still laugh. . but oh how true it is. I went from 0 to 8 rcs in no time and only want to play with the next one i wanna get haha

[@hellorc7678]

Haha you are right!

[@iangilmore3671]

I have both, used to be a HUGE traxxas fan, but now leaning towards Arrma. Parts support here in Oz is woeful for traxxas, much better for arrma, but both have issues with supply. I have found the arrma a lot easier to work on. The servos for traxxas are killing me. 3 have died now, including their so called heavy duty one. And they are pigs of things to take out compared to the arrma. Also you can only use traxxas servos whereas in the outcast you can go after different types, brands and torque which makes a difference as far as supply is concerned. My Xmaxx has caused me more grief than the outcast, makes me sad.

[@freddynightmare1]

So what is a good durable waterproof servo for the Xmaxx?

[@mesodan]

Did you set the servo end points?

[@trevorbraden5448]

You can use after market servos you just got to mod the trucks a little bit

[@joseCalderon1976]

I have these two beasts. The Outcast 8s is running with a 21t pinion and the Xmaxx 8s is running 20/50 gearing. Neither of them is slow. I like them both 👍

[@JayTeeRC]

sweet

[@joseCalderon1976]

@@JayTeeRC I recently upgraded both of these beasts with 1/5 electronics, so now they are ballistic. 50+MPH on grass/dirt 🤣. I can do a backflip off any small jump.

[@trevorbraden5448]

@@joseCalderon1976 what brand electronics did you go with.....? On both of these.....I also need to replace my electronics on my arrma kraton...... I have the 1st edition with the red motor and the ecs gets scolding hot..... any recommendations would be appreciated

[@joseCalderon1976]

@@trevorbraden5448 I would do the Max 5 and 1100kv on the Kraton 8s. 35t saga customs pinion and 47t stock spur. That would be ideal for your Kraton 8s. I run the XLX2 AND 1100KV motor with the same gearing on my Outcast 8s, but the XLX2 seems to be having short issues and fires (not mine), so I can't recommend it right now honestly. Just put a fan on that 1100kv motor and you should be golden 👍. I run the Max 5 and 1100kv motors on my xmaxx trucks. They are great electronics! I'm also converting everything to XT150. I highly recommend that connector! No spark. Way better than XT90. You just have to be careful when connecting the batteries to the ESC since you can do it backwards. Yeah the Kraton 8s is way too heavy for that stock system.

[@trevorbraden5448]

@@joseCalderon1976 I have the 6s arrma kraton it is the 1st gen.... I just picked up the spectrum 150 Amp esc for the kraton..... will definitely be trying out the max 5 or 6 for the xmaxx though

[@cheddartreez6826]

That's why I burn one before bashing. So the mushrooms in the Super Mario grass don't freak me out and I crash.

[@stevewalters2974]

I absolutely love your videos!! You have comedy in them too. Your one of the best I've seen. Thanks Jay Tee!

[@tingokuman]

Amazes me how well that Arrma moves with all the extra weight. The center diff is acting like a gyroscope on that Xmax when it wheelies.

[@jst4kicks568]

Have had that X Maxx for a few years now and love it. Do I need the Outcast? No. Will I get 1? Yeah. Need more Arrma in my life. After getting both the Infraction & Limitless I got to get a truck next.

[@statesmank5180]

My xmax esc went to critical error after 2 mins run and had to sent it to traxxas it’s been more than 30 days so if they decide to charge I m switching to max5

[@kristopherwilson4216]

The real test is how long the diffs last.

[@xmaxxfan1857]

Xmaxx all day! Anything made by Traxxas!

[@ScottMcLinden]

I pick up my 8s outcast Saturday 👍🏻

[@samcostanza]

JT, get a roof skid plate for your X-Maxx. The boys at Traxxas said it will protect your body.

[@rattlecanonlexan836]

2 beasts of trucks and blasts to drive! 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁

[@ScottMcLinden]

Mine came out the box like that JayTee. Not sure why?

[@srwilliams1963]

I recently bought EXB Kraton 6S. I may eventually get Kraton 8S

[@kenneth7197]

I just purchased my first X-Maxx. Only running 6s since that's all I have. 35 to 40 is all you need for jumps and running around in the dirt I guess???

[@BiggestStone31]

Uou just help me figure out which one I want. Thank You! I wanted a roller but I'll just snatch out the Traxxas electronics.

[@lbtank7508]

Did you have to modify the battery tray to get the smc 9700 to fit?

[@stevegabriel6982]

Nice comparison JT, Aside from what you already said, the Arrma jumps better, flies better, and lands better. This comparison might have swayed me if in the market for large scale truck.

[@TheFatAssCat]

The Xmaxx definitely jumps and lands better. My Outcast is a bit easier to keep flat but it's definitely nerve-racking whenever it's in the air, she's heavy, and she won't take the hits like the xmaxx. Already busted a few rear camber link rod ends and have a few shock shafts going bendy after a few not too hard bash sessions. Also both rigs are under geared in this video, both my Outcast and Xmaxx can sustain wheelies for days with better gear ratios. The outcast actually has a lot of power for it's size, especially if you up punch and timing, the main issue is it can't rotate in the air like the xmaxx cuz it's so heavy.

[@Sabrason]

@@TheFatAssCat Not based on this video or the other comparison videos I've seen. I have no dog in this fight and don't have either one but the Outcast 8s can handle better, jump better, turn better, wheelie better and back-flip better bc of its lower COG, wider width and slightly shorter wheelbase that makes up for the added weight not to mention it's a lot cheaper now than the Xmax. One other comparison video had a stock Outcast 8s beat a modified Xmax and the other had a stock Outcast 8s with damaged pillow balls beat an undamaged stock Xmax.

[@mandiwacker]

i have the X-Maxx, Kraton 8s and the Outcast too. I prefer the X-Maxx, the spareparts are much cheaper......

[@fervantbeatle6393]

What else can you tell me, I’m an xmaxx owner looking into either the kraton or outcast, any suggestions?

[@mandiwacker]

@@fervantbeatle6393 when you need a second car, i prefer the Kraton, is better on track!

[@fervantbeatle6393]

@@mandiwacker cool thanks!

[@steveroxx69]

Hey from watching your video I think the outcast was on its game a little better than the Traxxas on this day both of them are good looking awesome cars take care and be safe

[@peaceismyshelter]

Which would you go with first or if you could only have one? For an adult not kid, first RC? Thanks Jay Tee

[@Korninator1989]

Great Video! Cant decide. Iam not a basher. Wich Car is better for me Outcast or Xmaxx?

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Both are awesome RCs,cool runs

[@herrlogan17]

Although the Outcast is more appealing, durability is more important to me. Every bashing comparison with X-Maxx conclude with a clear winner in durability.

[@andreshepherd9417]

Do you have any nitro rc , wat about the kraton 8s

[@JustNateMusic]

Jay have you’ve done any mods to increase the speeds on the Xmaxx?

[@chriscaliri7977]

I just got my first truck in 15 yrs lol went with outcast. Twin 9000 150c

[@gortt7611]

Trying to decide between Outcast and Kraton! Help!

[@JayTeeRC]

8s versions?

[@roadglidec]

Hey Jay,love your videos, where do you fil at ?

[@roadglidec]

Film,?

[@dylangadberry9779]

Put the rpm wheelie bar it’s higher like the outcast. Way better!

[@mattytaylor9320]

My man said the tires was ashy! LMAO!!!! Good stuff bro!

[@JayTeeRC]

😁😁😁

[@dude6155]

Put a nut on the rods to prevent them pushing in. I got the outcast as well and mine hasn't done it.

[@redblue40rc33]

Arrma outcast 8s....haven't ran mine yet.....waiting on a charger for big batteries

[@yesbobby6229]

Awesome review as always buddy I have the outcast and love it takes a beating, and just a heads up I’ve seen people put I think it was either a 6mm or 8mm nuts behind it to stop the back tires from caving in.

[@JayTeeRC]

that's a good idea

[@yesbobby6229]

Yeah buddy seemed to have worked for them, I haven’t tried it yet

[@JayTeeRC]

@@yesbobby6229 will give it a shot

[@jimbojones2457]

Awesome video mate! I just bought a new X-MAXX. I haven't received it yet. But i've been hearing that out of the box i should pull the grub screw out of the pinion and loctite it because they come loose almost instantly. Is this true? I'll do it anyway. Thanks for sharing mate! Regards from Australia.

[@lukenukem1164]

I run my cars same as you, not that hard. I hear you can put a nut on that link to stop it winding in,still a silly fault tho. I still haven't made up my mind what to get, I'd like a notorious v4 but I'm struggling to get one in the UK. Would cost me a load to import one from us.

[@mAx70935]

do you know what nut size?

[@redbeardrc1452]

Nice slugfest between 2 RC heavyweights! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@bazzeelh.abdullah2044]

Hai Jay, I have the same problem with left rear wheel toeing in, did you get it fixed? If you'd what did you do..thks . Luv your videos especially the O8S EXB..maybe run it at the skate park next.. Awesome

[@JayTeeRC]

I actually just unscrewed it and stuff something inside of it and then re screwed it back together to keep it from pushing in. That actually fix the problem. I think I used some paper to stuff inside of there. Hope that makes sense

[@bazzeelh.abdullah2044]

@@JayTeeRC Thanks alot Jay. Yeah that makes sense..will give it try..Keep it up Bro!

[@JayTeeRC]

@@bazzeelh.abdullah2044 ok..bc it's almost 4 am here and I am 😪 so my words?get mixed up 😁😁😁

[@bazzeelh.abdullah2044]

@@JayTeeRC All good Jay T.. its 4pm here ..Sleep tight Man

[@kerndeath]

I’m looking at the arrma outcast exb and the traxxas xmaxx……. Which one you think I should get ???

[@JayTeeRC]

🤔...whats ur budget?

[@kerndeath]

Well around the xmaxx price I suppose … but with all the electronics for the arrma roller it should be somewhere near it …

[@JayTeeRC]

@@kerndeath well consider this if you run the x-maxx stock out the box without changing the gearing you going to get about 45 miles per hour. You get great runtime and stuff on it as well as long as you get a high milliamp battery I would recommend about 6 to 7,000 or 8,000 if you can find it. Now if you try to get more speed out of the stock Electronics that's where you going to run into problems and you'll have to upgrade the ESC and probably the motor as well. Now with the outcasts you're looking at about seven hundred bucks for the truck and then you need to get a good ESC and motor and Servo for it. I recommend the max 5 for the outcasts and there's a pretty good cheap Servo you can get for about 50 bucks that'll fit right in there. Then you just stuck with the radio not sure if you have lipomas as well but you also need to consider that in a good charger.

[@kerndeath]

@@JayTeeRC I’m defo leaning towards the xmaxx…… I already have charger etc , I’ve got a few cars already …… my main one at the moment is the arrma Keaton exb 6s with the max 6 combo …… such a good rug !!! Have heard people swapping the esc for the max 6

[@bigbruce70]

What GPS are you using

[@meanf1502]

I would ave to say the xmax just cause the parts are a lot cheaper stock ones an I drive a lifted truck to but the outcast handles a lot better I wish you could have the 24 mm hubs like the outcast I been asking around but no one answers me if I could change the 17 mm to 24 on the xmaxx

[@spare-keymedia6938]

I could be wrong, but I have about 6 arrma cars, and about 5 traxxas car and seems to me that the traxxas esc seems to be a little more responsive on the launch. The arrma stuff seems like it doesnt really launch until the truck starts moving...idk just a thought, maybe its those spectrum stx2 making it seem that way....either way arrma killing the game lately....thanks for another banger jaytee

[@bbeckers24]

Great trucks, great video. FYI, it's camber issues with the Outcast, not toe.

[@stonejr74]

What kind of run time are you able to get out of that 9700mAh battery

[@JayTeeRC]

on which truck?

[@stonejr74]

@@JayTeeRC on the Xmaxx

[@rc2276]

Nice video. Have you had problems with Arrma chassis bending? Kev talbot has bent every Arrma chassis.

[@safiryuseth5622]

M2C chassis for outcast is incredible.

[@JayTeeRC]

not yet

[@mjsrcs3725]

The reason why the Xmaxx does not wheelie as well as the other one is because the tyres balloon so much that it pushes the truck of center

[@bayarearcsendit671]

Your buddy's xmaxx vs the outcast would be a good one

[@southpaw602]

I love that outcast. I like the durability of the xmaxx and thats where the love ends. It way too unstable for me and the body comes off way too often. Now back to my kraton🤣

[@gonzodetroitify]

Yes JayTee, was going to also mention that u bring the hobao mt2 out to play, 🤔 and if you still have the savage that would have been awesome at this spot

[@arlinjackson5032]

Hey Jay is the xmaxx really a good truck or alot of problems

[@JayTeeRC]

good one

[@DrOcKa20]

Depends on who you ask. I've seen way too many videos on all types of issues. Servos, ESC's, you need to upgrade to RPM Arms & wheel bearings, motors, plastic comes off very easily after jumps or break way too easily. I'm still trying to decide which one to get honestly, and the Xmaxx isn't winning right now.

[@Bear-G74]

How do u do the jumps do u get off the throttle or stay on it

[@JayTeeRC]

video coming

[@tronarat]

I just got back into rc when I bought my daughter one previously around 2002 I had a stampede so that led me back to traxxas and I bought an xmaxx and was soon disappointed 😞 first time out the frame cracked ,second run the servo broke nothing crazy either just a flat dirt lot im hugely disappointed will try arrma next may sell xmaxx

[@JayTeeRC]

oh dang 😲

[@zoominnboomin]

The outcast is better at almost everything except the most important thing: DURABILITY

[@NepDouble07]

Definitely true 😂. I've seen it abused pretty bad stock though, and while it doesn't hold up as well as an xmaxx, for moderate bashing, it's still a good truck. It probably just needs some RPM arms for most people and they'll be happy with the durability.

[@JayTeeRC]

lol..yalll crazy ;)!!!

[@zoominnboomin]

@@NepDouble07 yes I agree completely! I have both and love both of them. The weight of the outcast I suspect, is the route of the Durability issues. I'm also very impressed at how well it performs with the extra weight.

[@idarrah3]

Im tired of everybody getting this one point wrong! The outcast does have more ground clearance the body just sits lower... The outcast is wider and has more ground clearance

[@e.s_art6663]

Doesn't help the outcast has a spoiler that can support it at the same time as the wheelie bar

[@donnellhawthorne1748]

I got my Infraction and Felony 👍🏾👍🏾 I think my next vehicle will be the Outcast

[@fortgreeneprojects1]

Real nice trucks and I'm learning this RC sport. I have to say so far people told me these 2 trucks are the type notch in the game right now. I will get a nice truck and for my son. Peace and Love NYC...

[@brianlindsey7488]

Jay C what tips do you have for keeping a pinion on the Xmaxx?

[@joseCalderon1976]

Like it not coming loose? I use red loctite and wait for at least one day.

[@randall4411]

Outcast rules !

[@meda2ni]

Def Both looks fun...but ima ARRMA bias...dont just blast...so I got me a O8S :)

[@raybetances5402]

How do you drive and record videos at the same time? Lol

[@Sabrason]

Great video and the third one where I saw a stock Outcast 8S outperform a modified Xmax (not even fair to the Outcast but it still won!) so not sure why I see so many Traxxas fan boys saying they'd take the Xmax any day......why?? lol

[@JayTeeRC]

exactly!

[@darksunridah]

I'm about to trade in my Kraton 8s EXB and my Typhon 6s for an X Maxx. The Kraton is just too heavy.

[@NepDouble07]

Other than the xmaxx having overall better durability, that's about it... The outcast has better stock electronics, it's easier to work on, (if you know about arrma's love for loctite), and it's just a platform that's so much easier to expand on and upgrade.

[@TylerSaleik]

Exactly man. All personal preference. I’ll go xmaxx because of the durability at that scale and price.

[@JayTeeRC]

lol...love for loctite...classic!!!!

[@toolton2003]

Thank You My Friend Love It....

[@zekesrc3285]

I needed to see this video thanks 👍🏾👍🏾i subbed

[@ManuelOrtizification]

Important note: the 8s xmaxx diffs dont blow when you self right unless your prop shaft is bent to shit 😂

[@cmx2828]

The X-Maxx has a much better build quality. I had an outcast where the wheels couldn't be removed. And an Infraction that was delivered with defective dampers and defective diff

[@JayTeeRC]

oh dang man...that sucks

[@nicholaskoller8537]

I can’t take the front wheel nuts off my Kraton. Tried applying some heat, anymore forcr and I think I’ll break something. Seems like they came badly cross threaded. I gave into just leaving them on until I need new tires and I’ll just cut the wheels off then and go from there smh

[@lonnienunes]

Nice video they are both great trucks.

[@markbigham3623]

Good video bud I got the outcast 8s as well it's amazing I put a ford raptor x-maxx body on it it looks mean

[@moerc]

Quality run and content- U the man!

[@steveconnor5388]

Great video JayTee I like both trucks and I like when you make long videos

[@moerc]

Steve Connor me too lol, he rides those whips smooth as a MFer.

[@jameslyons158]

I don’t know I watch the video several times and I think the X maxx did the best, I like both trucks though not sure which one I want to get LOL

[@stevenhuerta1975]

2/11000mah Bash batteries you can wheelie all day and hit faster speeds

[@n6six_videos]

Winner: Aroma Outcast 8S

[@beerenjoyer8525]

I love its wheelies

[@n6six_videos]

@@beerenjoyer8525 Sustained and controlled

[@beerenjoyer8525]

@@n6six_videos Yes

[@pgrcplus]

Great vid JayTee. I know I want one of them but still not sure which! Was the X-Maxx but the Outcast looks so cool! Can you do a vid with the included pinions? Be interesting to see if the Outcast stretches away or the X- Maxx catches up 👍👍😊😊

[@beerenjoyer8525]

I have got the outcast, no problems with it and nothing is broken. I would say, to race, for medium bashing and upgrade (upgraded the outcast is better), the x maxx for hard bashing

[@coreycash3016]

Way to many traxxas fanboys on here damm i love both hell i love all them but lets get in it the xmaxx is a blast love it but it has big problems with gears blowing i put my hispeed gear in it blamm done 1st run all the chunks ran down and blew out the gear box one thing after another after the outcast is way over weight its the killer its like a fatass out of shape guy playing ball with pros u will bet hurt lol

[@nicethelyrical1529]

WOW! I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE TRYING TO TELL HIM TO TRADEMARK AND PUT TUMBLE WUMBLE SHIRTS OUT!!!💯💥 lmao #tumblewumble

[@bigrickdabarber3971]

X Maxx can take a way tougher beating ANYDAY!!

[@craigdixon7881]

Awesome dude your vid is just what I wanted ...I have the outcast on its way with exactly the same gens ace 8000ma 4s batteries...Can you tell me what runtime I should expect just bashing around.... I love your vids

[@craigdixon7881]

Subbed

[@JayTeeRC]

It's really going to depend on how you run it where you run it and what year you running. I think I got about 25 minutes plus with a 19 to pin your running like this

[@craigdixon7881]

@@JayTeeRC Thanks heaps mate ...So looking forward to it ...Im guessing there is a way to tell when the Batts are running low ...Slows down I guess

[@JayTeeRC]

@@craigdixon7881 lvc kicks in and will slow down then stop

[@craigdixon7881]

@@JayTeeRC Awesome man ..Thanks for replying...Anything that should be done before the first run or is it just plain beasty with no probs

[@severalothers]

Cool video. I am building my Xmaxx from the ground up part by part as we speak and my next build will be the Outcast. Thanks for sharing.

[@JayTeeRC]

thanks for 👀

[@JustNateMusic]

Bro your videos are good. I’ve been watching all toes of YT videos trying to decide if I want the Xmaxx or Kraton 8s. Well....Kraton it is😅

[@pdark3930]

Went for the Outcast just because of looks, know the durability is better on Xmaxx but its to plastic for me!

[@trevorbraden5448]

Plastic is more durable...... metal bends and destroys other parts

[@pdark3930]

@@trevorbraden5448 exactly

[@miketube6662]

Best of both worlds Ace

[@tylivinlife2238]

Bro you got the laugh of stiffler all day long. 🤣🤣

[@TylerSaleik]

From American pie?

[@tylivinlife2238]

@@TylerSaleik yes

[@nicethelyrical1529]

This was a really Dope video! You've got a lot of great Videos! Keep doing ya thing! #rclife

[@JayTeeRC]

tks

[@Mario-yd5jx]

My name is not crazy you can’t call super Mario grass 😂 lol

[@Terry12345]

I don't know which one I like better. The outcast won more categories but the XMAXX just seemed smoother and definitely sounds better. I mainly run Arrma bashers and Traxxas crawlers but that's not set in stone. Great video!

[@csr_massacreyt]

I wish i can get a outcast

[@johnwayne666]

Drinking my coffee ☕.... having a lil smoke... enjoying your great Content.....🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼✌🏼🤠

[@Oyvind88]

Love the xmaxx, great video😁🇳🇴 My dream rc❤️

[@PhillyDee215]

Both are crazy tho🔥🔥🔥

[@goon1500ify]

Great video 👍 I've been having a very hard time deciding wich large scale rc to buy right now the Kraton the outcast or the super rock rey 🤔 . I've been racking my brains for 3 weeks now trying to make the big decision being this is my first large scale truck . I want to get the most for my 💲

[@JayTeeRC]

🤔

[@brianstover4732]

Fun Factor = Outcast

[@smithtown4132]

Hey love the content man..my granite also is doing the same thing 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@JayTeeRC]

😔🤔

[@nicethelyrical1529]

🤣 Having TOO MUCH FUN! 🥳🙏🏾💪🏾💯

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

Folks that trash talk an xmaxx just kinda lose my attention 😂. Any brand “fanboy” is just kinda silly to me. All the brands have studs and duds 🤷🏼‍♂️ Very fun truck and feels like the monster truck it’s called. The outcast handles fast turns etc better I’m sure. And is faster. But that’s a heavy SOB!

[@heat305rc]

awesome video..both trucks are great and fun to run...💯💯👍👍💯💯

[@jonogden1497]

Besides the toe rod problems that you just discovered the shocks also bend due to the severe tilt and angle that they're at when jumping. With that said the Xmaxx is superior at jumping and durability. * Side note: That white minivan is creeping on you hard core! Lmao!