Arrma Talion VS Tekno MT410

[@Wotup72]

That dog was like Eli Apple trying to cover Cooper kupp in the the Super bowl.

[@thunderrc]

Haha 🤣🤣🚀🤩🤩👍👍

[@Wotup72]

@Thunder RC Your channel is awesome 👌. So real and super awesome driver.

[@andybcardoso1978]

Check to see if your servo saver arm is hitting your servo mount at the end points and loosen the servo saver a bit. With the m2c chassis I had to dremel off a little of the servo saver arm to allow it to clear the servo mount. The tekno facebook forum has great info on this! Dont give up on the MT410 yet you will figure it out. Cheers!

[@thunderrc]

Thanks Bro!🚀👍💯

[@louisandrew2413]

I found this out while setting my endpoints. Just grind it down enough for full left. Savox 2290sg black still going strong.

[@jordanritchie2198]

Yes had to do the same thing.

[@lkncatfish7586]

would you ever do a how to video on your tricks. like when/timing you hit the brake to front flip on the bump ramp, etc

[@williamoleary9330]

There’s some channel can’t remember it, but he’s having some kind of huge RC get together next summer. He’s building tracks and jumps on his property. It’s the dude that friends with Talbot. I think he’s a monster truck driver. That would be cool if he pulls it off for you & your crew to show up there

[@thunderrc]

Thanks for letting me know. That would be epic! 👍🚀⚡

[@rodneyhendrix93]

Check for binding and end point adjust or add servo savers?

[@shawncool5496]

:) trying to sellan xmaxx with 3 runs on it. So I can buy and build an mt410. Love the truck. Maybe ask the tekno forum for suggestions?

[@thunderrc]

👍👍💯💥 xmaxx will sell fast man!!

[@RichD]

5:20 I know that feeling so well! Good stuff, good luck with the servo issue.

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man!👍

[@SpeedSyko]

Thunder, I wonder why that’s eating servos?! But you told me to buy the Talion and it’s been a blast!!!!! Your videos get better every time you post!! I’m proud of you bro! Stellar sends and trigger skills!! Loved every minute my man! 👊💯👍⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@thunderrc]

Thanks so much my brotha! Love you my man! Talion is a Beast! 🤩💯💯💥⚡

[@rctd3260]

Epic skatepark sesh!! These trucks are Awesome! Hopefully I can get out and bash tomorrow!

[@thunderrc]

Thank you bro! Hope you get out and bash tomorrow!👍💥⚡🚀

[@offmymeds9621]

Try going back to the stock 410 chassis and see if the problem goes away. I’ve been running a 50 Powerhobby servo in mine for almost 3 years with zero issues!!! I’m not using a m2c chassis so an educated guess would be that there’s a design flaw of some sort. I mean really what else could it be? Also the kraton 6s wheels are a bit much for that rig try the 4s backflips instead……

[@thunderrc]

Thanks so much 💯 👍

[@GuyonaMoose]

That’s weird man ide go back and check the electronics. Maybe the bec is fried and just sending straight battery voltage to the servo/receiver. Other than that my gamechanger build has been great. Running the M2c longer arm on the short hole. Got the saver backed off two turns. By the book they wanted three I think. I’m running an aluminum case power hd 30kg and it’s been a total beast. Tons of crashes and still good to go no issues. Your running the arm correctly. The servo gets flipped from the stock config. Tekno steering is so smooth I can’t for the life of me figure out why you’d be burning them up other than bad bec power source

[@thunderrc]

Thanks Bro! 👍⚡🚀

[@SuperXdaveX]

Yooo bro!? Get the outcast 4s please! I wanna see the upgrades from mitch and avery

[@johnnyhaberfield721]

Just love the new RC Dogs.✌️

[@thunderrc]

Haha!!🤣⚡👍

[@chrisryder4709]

Of course you know it's backwards , I'm thinking the backwards setup is bad stress , get a savox ? What electronics are u running in the talion , my mt410 has never broke anything YET ?

[@jordanritchie2198]

I think u need go with the eco power 125 I think it is. I maybe wrong and the 120 is the biggest not sure but I would try a different brand servo. Or is the servo sitting on the chassis do u have a gap between the two? Maybe it hitting the chassis on the big air on the landing?

[@ric_fu]

Nice crazy run Friend 🤩 😁👋🇫🇷

[@thunderrc]

Thank you my man!!🚀👍👍

[@PokinHeaD]

Hi bro!). It's a pity tekno broke the server. What voltage are you applying to the servo? Maybe put a remote bec ? Plus the question of tightness ? She's a waterprouf, maybe moisture gets in? I am glad to see a new video! Keep it up!) I finally put my tekno mt410 in order. There were problems with the central differential, and I was also waiting for the 6s backflips :)

[@myrclife]

You gotta go with the reefs triple 4 servo. You've seen my 2 Tekno's on my channel and I've had the reefs triple 4 servos in both of those for over a year with no issues 🤷.

[@myrclife]

Also try moving to the middle hole on the servo arm and maybe loosen up the servo saver a little with the mid-grade servo your running.

[@matthewcostner2937]

Get a reefs servo or space the servo up with some servo spacers it might help because I feel your killing then because of them slapping thr chassis on landings so some rubber servo spacers may help your problem

[@colorado_a3766]

Had a very similar issue with the servo on mine. What you have to do is add some servo spacers to the mounting holes to raise it up a couple mm, what’s happening is the servo is hitting the chassis.

[@thunderrc]

Thanks Bro!👍

[@senditcody3130]

That sucks on the Tekno servo problem man. I never had that problem with the m2c chassis on it. I was using the cheap amazon servos like 30kg or 25

[@thunderrc]

Thanks bro! 🚀👍

[@johnmoulton2742]

Just thinking, what about the receiver voltage settings, or just a different one.

[@lowblueranger]

Sucks about your tekno. I have the same Hitec servo in mine for a couple of years. Even ran trencher 40 series on it so tire size shouldn’t matter. Mine is all stock, I didn’t have the need to go m2c. I actually haven’t had a single steering issue in mine since I built it. Hope you get your sorted out. Great video 👍 love some talion action!

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man!🚀⚡💯

[@GreatLakesRC]

Protek servo, that's the answer 👍 I haven't had any servo issues. Bummer though, it's frustrating.

[@katherinebrooks7273]

That's too Cool. Hope you will get to fix it soon. God Bless 🙏🏻

[@thunderrc]

Thank you! Godless you too! 💥⚡⚡💯

[@jasonkraus7442]

Great video Rocky. Sorry that you couldn't bash like you wanted to. The Mt410 is a sweet looking rig; it's too bad about the steering servo. Maybe the servo saver is too tight?? Other than that, I got nothing, bro. But I'm still new to the sport and learning from watching and listening to the advise of yourself and others like Kevin. Is the ESC not communicating with the steering servo properly?? Maybe it needs to be programmed??? Don't feel so bad though; you've got a LOT of other great trucks we love to watch. Have a great one, brother!

[@thunderrc]

Thanks Bro!! Have a great weekend too 🚀⚡💯

[@jeremiahrobles4038]

Every servo I ran inside my Mt410 was super old and already on its way out man😬 and those garbage Traxxas servos lasted me a whole bash which was a lot longer than I could have asked for using something with the name of Traxxas🤣 I hate to see you have some bad luck with the servo man, but if there’s anything I have learned is not every single upgrade is a good upgrade. While I love the m2c chassis I have found the reverse servo placement limits a lot of travel to the left unless you trim the servo saver. Even then it’s still not perfect. I guarantee you if I throw the stock chassis on it will fix this problem. Both trucks are awesome my dude! And I truthfully wouldn’t let something like this deter you from such a amazing platform.

[@buttracerrc]

I know you know what you do. But do you Put the Servo saver in? In some Tekno ET Kits There is a optional Link Part in - for Direct Steering. Without a saver spring. Perhaps, Like the Others Said. Bad luck on ESC that Burns the Servo... Or endpoint adjustment...

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man! I appreciate it 👍💯⚡

[@creaturerc]

Switch the servo back and see what happens... Worst case it eats it and then you know for sure! Steering rack could be a little tight though, try loosening the bolts a bit..

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man!!🚀👍

[@andyb9994]

Another great vid, what is up with servos on the Tekno. Something is causing it you guys know what you are doing, I actually thought servos are made to run in any position, hope you get it figured out cause it's a cool truck but I wouldn't be happy either....good luck bro..

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man!!👍🚀⚡

[@ogbigwasher]

Hey rocky, how did you do the blue on the inside of talion windows? it looks great. I would like to do that on a j concepts kraton body i just painted.

[@thunderrc]

It was blue metallic car wrap that I cut out for the windows! I got it on ebay

[@EJ-74]

Cute puppy wanted to turn your Talion into a chew toy 😁🤣😂 Dang the servo zonking out like that is crazy. It could be the servo saver. 🤔 Other than the servo the Tekno is pretty dang cool. The Talion rings supreme though. 🔥 Love the front bump flips. 👍✌️

[@thunderrc]

Thanks Bro!!👍🚀💥Yeah the puppy was something else lol 🤣

[@rceskimo8229]

Can you run the Talion on 4S backflips. I want to see how it flips with these tires

[@thunderrc]

Yes I can will do that soon👍👍

[@chrisryder4709]

Do u think the m2c is nessasary , other than the stock chassis ?

[@thunderrc]

👍🚀⚡

[@cyclonerc1625]

The MT410, is just like shotguns, 410 is ok, a 12 gauge is better, Arrma talion. Thank you Rocky, I was jonesing for a good vid. ⚡💥⚡💥⚡👍✌

[@thunderrc]

Thank you !!👍🚀💯💥⚡💥⚡

[@omega_rc]

The gamechanger chassis has that problem. You have to dremel the part of the servo check out Seth Holtz’s FB page.

[@thunderrc]

Thank you for your advice!!

[@jbrc1322]

As far as the tekno, try loosening the servo saver a few turns if you haven't already. They are born and bred to be a race truck, so steering tolerances are inherently tighter than most other bashers. For servos, check out NSDRC- they focus on servos for crawler/rock racers and are known for their durability and value. The RS-500b is their entry model, but for $60 it packs 520 oz-in @.09 on direct power (16.8v)- I've been running in in my tlr typhon and it's incredible.. For double the price, the RS-800 boasts crazy power and they claim nobody has ever broken the gears and so they give a lifetime warranty on them. A final option that I have not been able to break will run about $150- the Savox SB-2292SG. Super tough, but amp hungry and needs external bec to reach it's potential. I'm a fan of the direct power options myself as they bypass the esc bec and therefore keep the esc less stressed and running cooler. Lastly, NSDRC offers an in-line voltage limiter so you can run up to 12s and still run the direct power servos. Cheers!

[@paulclancy2404]

Nice im going give one of those a try on my typhon too. You answered all my questions. I like idea not using esc ive been adding fans direct power , I just run auxiliary 4s battery . Do I need to buy a splitter wire ? I guess I get the wire you mentioned anyway incase I want run 6s . Typhon is a BEAST I turned one into a truggy with granite body im going change with one of those tuff chevy c10 bodies. Rpm mount and team coraley wing 👌

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man!!👍💯

[@jbrc1322]

@@paulclancy2404 I just soldier 18ga wire direct from power leads either off esc post or xt90 connector with a jst on other end. You can get 2 or 3 way splitter if you need more. The voltage limiter can just plug in line before going to the split and you're good to run 4s-12s lipos. Nice thing about the large arrma rx boxes is all the wiring can fit inside no problem. Good luck mate!

[@paulclancy2404]

@@jbrc1322 ok 👌 thanks , I have those jst plugs

[@mikeleahy216ify]

I'm new to rc but on fullsize rigs we get bump steer. Would the servo end points need to be set while under a load?

[@thunderrc]

We set the endpoints already. Tha nKS for watching ! 👍⚡🚀

[@Greg-js1bk]

Set the end points on the servo to limit the throw.

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man!👍

[@NelsRc73]

I love your intro bro, it was a beautiful fight that will be executed! Too bad the MT410 loses so soon! Arma did some great flips, great job bro AHAH XMAXX POWER will be back for my greatest happiness and the rc community! This truck is a legend, I can't live without it for a year and a half, every outing with it is happiness, it still impresses me as much as the day I delivered it from its box. and its BAMMM rilsans Have a nice day Rocky see you soon ;)

[@thunderrc]

Thank yall so much for watching!!🚀👍⚡⚡⚡

[@life_tracks_]

Return the Tekno back to stock and test it out. If you think it drives good with all this M2c stuff then your in for a treat running it stock. The servo problem is definitely something your doing as my trucks go to the moon with no probs with servos. 👍

[@thunderrc]

Thanks Bro!👍🚀⚡

[@paulclancy2404]

My man had enough of the m410 lmaooooo we all been there with a rc thats usually held in high regard. Talion looks sharp 👌

[@thunderrc]

🤣😀🤣

[@matthewcostner2937]

You might want to look into a just bash it tall one piece billit servo mount I I have a kraton 6s that hase every M2C part made for it on it down to the new mega shafts and I had to put 2 just bash it parts on mine and the servo mount was one of them because it was all billet and they sale a tall version it works amazing on not flexing look into that and a reefs raw 500 and you be good to go as long as you use the rubber servo spacers on it I have a savox 2292 on mine and haven't killed it yet but if I do I'm going reefs

[@thunderrc]

Thanks for the info!!💯👍🚀

[@rcsmith5909]

Take the servo arm off. Make sure everything is super smooth. And maybe limit your endpoints so it doesn't turn as far. Thats all l have

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man!!👍

[@BEASTMODERC]

Could the servo savor on the tekno be to tight

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man! ⚡ 👍

[@R.C.DADDYHAWAII]

What kinda wheels u like to run on the talion? All my damn Arrma 6s strips my damn wheels.

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

Arrma to the rescue! 👍👊😋😎

[@teamcobrarcrccars6156]

That window is paint o sticker?

[@riggsfamilyrc]

You seem to know your stuff pretty good but just to make sure I went through all your comments and I watched the video over and over again. I was thinking revert back to stock and see if the truck works for you that way if not then you just take it out in the back and shoot it🤣😂☄️🔥👊💯

[@thunderrc]

Haha I try my man! 🤣💯⚡⚡ This Tekno has me thinking twice 🤣💯 Appreciate you brotha!

[@omega_rc]

Do you think the Talion exb would be better with the Max 6 1650 kv combo or is the stock system perfect for it?

[@thunderrc]

Stock system is easier on the motor, however the max 6 esc is way way more fun in the truck! Insane power on 6s! 💯💯💯😱💯Just watch your temps.

[@omega_rc]

@@thunderrc ahh but what about max 6 with the 1650kv motor?

[@gurseveksrc3386]

From having 10 plus traxxas, imo arrma have the best basher no cap

[@thunderrc]

👍🚀⚡👍👍

[@SchwaboT5]

Does the Tekno have a servo saver?

[@thunderrc]

Yes it does, turns out I had it set way to tight and I had to Dremel out a piece of plastic on the servo saver.

[@muhammadaizuddinadzha4556]

Hi TRC, greeting from malaysia..may i know if talion will do a backflip using a backflip 4s tyre with a stock pinion/spur? Thanks in advance.

[@thunderrc]

Hey thanks for watching! 👍⚡💯🤩 Yes I will run the talion on 4s backflip tires soon!

[@thunderrc]

I think it will backflip on 6s with that setup no problem ⚡👍

[@muhammadaizuddinadzha4556]

Thunder RC nice mate ‼️ im eager tu know if talion can flip using 4s backflip with stock pinion&spur setup .. im waiting for the next vid 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@jakethole]

It’s the m2c chassis geometry check the Tenno FB group. I really like the power hobby 760 or even the 720. I have a BEC on mine also. I have blown gears in 2 eco power servos lately very easily in another rig. I’m not sure if they changed something lately but they don’t seem to be as tough as the used to be.

[@teamcobrarcrccars6156]

How to paint blue windows??

[@stevenbonnefin7722]

Go the JX servos that Kevin Talbot uses

[@thunderrc]

👍👍💯👍👍

[@bubblesrcshed]

Not sure why but maybe the ESC is sending over voltage too the servo, that’s too many servos dead otherwise it has to be a faulty ESC for my guess. Call Teckno and tell em you want a new ESC. One more dead servo I’d kill the truck

[@thunderrc]

Thanks man! Yeah I'm pretty frustrated with the truck

[@Tk-di5vd]

Tekno sells roller kits, they have nothing to do with this issue. He bought the electronics separately. Honestly this is the first I've hear of a servo issue with the mt410. And I researched it pretty extensively before buying mine. Mines running great! I recommend it, I'm running a reefs 500

[@chadbiermann3380]

There has to be a reason your servo is dying so quick. Check your esc and make sure your putting out the right voltage for your servo.

[@thunderrc]

OK. Will do. Thanks man!👍👍

[@nickhathaway4617]

That is weird about the servo's I will take it that is my dream truck lol 🤣

[@thunderrc]

Man yeah I have heard alot of different reasons why it has been eating servos. Hopefully I find the right solution soon! 💥💯💯💯🤩

[@SixShooterRC]

WELL HELL is that the #3 ECO servo?? if so Try a better servo I have 1 ECO in my Talon EXB but just got 2 🏃‍♂️ & it's ok

[@thunderrc]

👍👍💯👍👍

[@blacksheeprc8113]

Almost made the cut lol

[@thunderrc]

🤣🚀⚡

[@marcthaywood9647]

Same $80 savox in mine for years

[@thunderrc]

Awesome man, maybe I need to try savox ⚡️🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@just_inolredneck8319]

Reefs just put out a smart 1100 servo.. maybe go with a big reefs..

[@thunderrc]

That is a good 💡 idea. Thanks brotha!

[@Ohwell423]

I gotta get a talion

[@thunderrc]

Yes you do!!👍💯🚀💥

[@chrisryder4709]

Carefully with dogs , older dogs will chase till they are past exhaustion , our pit will go after it till he drops , not good , I won't let him chase anymore

[@thunderrc]

Yes , I'll remember that! 👍This dog was on a walk with its owners and they let it run and chase the car

[@wrc_adventurehobby5242]

Nice👍👍👍👍👍🥰

[@thunderrc]

Thanks!🚀⚡💥💥💥

[@raven5347]

I’ve never burned a servo in my teknos.. I trashed one from crashing.. I said this once and I will say it again. Why buy trash servos ? Spends $$$$ on everything else except servo? Anyways, buy an nsdrc high power servo.. if your only running 4s. Buy the direct power.. nsdrc has a GREAT WARRANTY! Remember these teknos are not intended for bashing, per se. The mt 410 was specifically designed with 1/8 scale buggy tires in mind. Which are a lot smaller then what you are running..

[@thunderrc]

👍 thanks man !

[@benniullrich2237]

Left the tekno behind and bash the XTR2022 vs the Talion beast.

[@thunderrc]

Haha yes indeed 🤣⚡💥⚡💯💯⚡

[@captaincouldverc]

For your mt10: Tires too heavy, servo saver way too tight, and end points set to allow too much steering throw. These are all clearly seen in every video of your tekno. Possibly a voltage issue, but I don't see anything in this video to confirm this suspicion. Then again, a 60 servo should be able to handle 7.4v.

[@thunderrc]

Thanks bro for the advice!! 👍

[@meanf1502]

Arrma over tekno anyday rocky what shirt was you wearing

[@thunderrc]

👍👍👍 it's some shirt I had , it says stealth racing Dont think its RC related haha not sure ⚡🚀💥

[@deontay79ify]

Sorry to say it but that M2c chassis sucks. Had one and it was nothing but issues. Put stock chassis on and everything was great. Maybe try stock chassis

[@deontay79ify]

I’ve had 4 mt410s and only one that had issues was with M2c chassis. Love M2c. I have all there chassis but the mt410 chassis sucked and too heavy. I think ur issue is either stronger servo. Or chassis. Either way can u try it with stock chassis

[@thunderrc]

Thanks bro!💯👍

[@cjhobbies2536]

Bec too high maybe?

[@Dr.Colors]

I never had servo’s issues with my mt410. But mine eats many rear driveshafts

[@thunderrc]

💥💥💥

[@clayton8465]

Corally cap. Lol.

[@mattsimshauser7541]

tekno is overrated lol

[@thunderrc]

👍💯🚀