Do not wish to rain on anyone's parade here with my comment. I started artifact hunting something like twenty-three years ago. Done it pretty regular for a few years and put together a decent small collection. I only ever "surface hunted" That is to say walked the turned fields. Those of us that do this are saving artifacts that would other wise be destroyed and that are not in situ thus we aren't destroying a site or the knowledge that could be gained from it . I've never turned a spade of dirt in search of artifacts and never will. I do love finding them and found the hobby to be most informative over the years. That being said I believe no digging should be done by anyone but professional archeologists that will document a site "professionally" and preserve the knowledge gained for posterity. Got that off my chest.
@HistoryHoundDetecting2 жыл бұрын
In most situations I agree with you Edwin. However, there are circumstances in which digging undisturbed dirt is acceptable. It’s private property that will be developed at some point in the future.
@TreasureHuntingSWPA4123 жыл бұрын
Seeing that fire pit still in situ was really cool. Just the way it was left hundreds or thousands of years ago.
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
Never fails to give me goose bumps!
@GarnetCarmichael3 жыл бұрын
Mind boggling to me to have found something that old . Nice job and thanks for the video!
@MarkOBrienmarkspage13 жыл бұрын
I've never heard it said better before...""some say I'm a treasure hunter but what I'm really after is a good story.... This is absolutely true. It's also a feeling and an emotion that is deeply satisfying that lasts a lifetime that is very connecting with nature and reality.
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
You definitely get it Mark. Thanks for watching!
@ClaytonCountyHistoryHound3 жыл бұрын
Very cool finds. That agate point was absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing and take care.
@diggersdentysonu.k.m.d88133 жыл бұрын
Been a long week qt work now got few days off time to have a catch up hope all the family are doing well 👍 looking forward to this legend
@christopherblevins19683 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just thinking about the Indians sitting around the fire pit eating what they just cooked gives you goosebumps! It's amazing that you all found them!!
@lesliesmaturemakeupbeauty3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing!
@crtreasures11363 жыл бұрын
Another awesome informative video adventure. So cool to see the lining of the fire pit. Wonder how many good stories were shared around that one. Take care.
@lawnguyva3 жыл бұрын
Most excellent. Learned something new again. Look for charcoal bits on surface to indicate a pit. Thanks for posting.
@thementaldetectorist7563 жыл бұрын
Awesome🏴💖💖🥰👋🙏😊
@missourioutdooradventures3 жыл бұрын
As always enjoyed watching thanks for sharing 👍
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching!
@jerrydineen28273 жыл бұрын
That fire pit was such an interesting find!
@artifactaddiction3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff right there! Great presentation. That fire pit was very interesting and the agate point is beautiful! Always love seeing the quartz points as well. Thanks for sharing!
@troywilliams10523 жыл бұрын
How cool..i enjoy you're knowledge, I use it when I stroll around my yard.and 2. creeks. I live where Hemp village was in the early to mid 1800s..your welcome anytime.
@normawinton68323 жыл бұрын
Amazing find!
@Ontario_Rockhound3 жыл бұрын
Very nice, really like the agate point.
@marksexton48603 жыл бұрын
Those are the things in life that never gets old
@scdigger3 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff Ben!
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Hope you doing well!
@paulhaig46283 жыл бұрын
Some were probably never used at all because they just couldn’t thin them out enough and then some of the broke ones were snapped while making them.
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@colt1109872 жыл бұрын
I’ve found several hundred points and tools in upstate SC. I don’t believe the smaller points started larger, especially in quartz! Much smaller points were commonly used for multiple reasons. Obviously some were worked down over time but smaller @ medium points are more common for a reason. Great find, Great Video!
@HistoryHoundDetecting2 жыл бұрын
I agree to a point. But based on the large numbers of these small points we find around camps it seems plausible they were being discarded at that current state of form, not being created…or why throw them down so frequently. Good thoughts! I love engaging the brain.
@davidharris4030 Жыл бұрын
The small ones we call those bird points. I hunt some private property in Tennessee. It is illegal to even surface hunt on TVA lakes. I see a lot of people that do it when TVA drops the water levels to winter pool.
@HistoryHoundDetecting Жыл бұрын
It definitely is. I have a few issues with the way TVA handles itself with property management. They’ll arrest or fine someone for almost anything and claim that they were harming history or the land….but the second they have a project, they’ll destroy whatever they want. It’s a power grab. But that being said….it is the law and not much to be done about it.
@ridgeraider13 жыл бұрын
Excellent video been great questions raised also we need to talk again soon
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Call anytime!
@TinaHyde3 жыл бұрын
This video was timed perfectly. I’m new to artifact hunting and so I’m doubting every find and just assuming it’s only a geofact. Just this evening I was out digging (dammit do I love dirt) and started pulling a TON of what looked like quartz points and blades.I remembered reading that quartz was used but I never saw any photos of any. I nearly shit my pants when you started talking about and showing them up close! 🤯 There must be dozens in this one dirt pile! And better yet, I was pulling out fist-sized chunks of river-worn quartz with what appeared to be intentional shapes. Of course, I kept second-guessing myself. How could they have so much control over such a hard dense material?? I kept seeing the same 3 or 4 shapes, over and over. My answer came after digging well past dark. I pulled what appears yo be a preform of sorts. It had multiple holes drilled into in strategic spots. You could tell how it would fracture if you hit in the right spot. But the question that still remains for me is what did they use to in drill into quartz? I know the material’s hardness must be more that quartz to be able to drill into it - just not sure what the tool looked like or how they used it. 🤷🏻♀️
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
Drilled quartz would be a rare thing indeed but definitely not unheard of. They could often use a piece of river cane combined with quartz grit and drill what are called bannerstones. You can Google if that doesn’t ring a bell. We know they were ding this because unfinished drilling reveals a circle shaped perforation going into a stone…with a little stone nipple in the center. River cane is hollow so that’s what left that little nipple of rock.
@TinaHyde3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHoundDetecting Bannerstones are my holy grail. 🏆 I could die happy if I ever found one. Looking at my quartz stone again, I’m not convinced what I’m seeing are drill holes. 😕 But it’s good to know it’s a possibility! Thank you for this info and for the great tutorial on fire pits. That’s the first time I’ve seen a photo of what they looked like when they were still in use. And your kids and dog are just too cute!
@MetalDetectingNWGA3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that point at 8:10 is awesome!
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t expecting it to be translucent like that…kinda through me for a second. I called it agate but I think it’s probably for accurate to call it a chalcedony point. Maybe from Virginia area?
@MetalDetectingNWGA3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHoundDetecting Yeah I've found them that color but never found one that was translucent like that. No idea where they come from. Super cool point though!
@timbumgarner12073 жыл бұрын
I'm from the North Carolina Mountains myself. Question? Would it be possible that the thick points are made by someone learning how to make points or blades and we're discarded for not being good enough
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
That might be the case for the occasional point…for sure. But the vast majority simply weren’t worth the effort of try to resharpen one last time. Material was readily available and it made much more sense to just replace a used up blade or point with a new one.
@lindaleehulsey31672 жыл бұрын
The smaller thicker in my mind I heard were students work learning. FIRE SACRED warmth. Schooling area.
@HeartbreakerRelics3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ben! Keep it up my friend.
@jamebrooke8942 жыл бұрын
Where I live there's historical information on an Indian village that stretched for 6 miles along a river here. When plowed and rained on you can count over 30 firepits. There's a plaque stating in 1780s Kentucky whites attacked the village in retaliation for aa attack on white settlements in Kentucky. Just got permission to hunt it, no one's hunted it for 30 years according to the owner. Come on SPRING!!!
@Treasuremonk3 жыл бұрын
Where you located?
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
North Carolina
@Treasuremonk3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHoundDetecting thought so! I’m in catawba County have videos on my finds. Just nice to see where others find artifacts near me to see how they differ etc.
@tomcooper51882 жыл бұрын
@@Treasuremonk Hi Treasure Monk, I’m an artifact hunter who grew up and collected in eastern NC. I have a cabin in Caldwell County surrounded by Pisgah National Forest. I you’re interested in collecting together, just reach out.
@angelsinthearchitecture71063 жыл бұрын
I believe the smaller used up ones were still very usable. We find very very small bird points in Mississippi and Alabama. They were made that small
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
For sure they were still usable, but they weren’t preferable to fresh blades which were readily available as material was easily obtained. I think of them like used tires. If your broke or tires aren’t available…you use them till you can’t any longer. But if you have the money and tires are easy to find, you don’t use them to that point. You get a new set before they are completely worn out. While many of these quartz point might have a little life left, they just weren’t as effective as a larger and sharper new point. Chert is a little different..as I mentioned in the video.. they were much easier to keep sharp and thin, so even the smallest point was an effective tool. I
@angelsinthearchitecture71063 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHoundDetecting LOL yep. I wish I could put pics here. We really find some very small points. Almost unusable small. But we know they were made that way and not from resharpen over time.
@angelsinthearchitecture71063 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHoundDetecting I know y'all's quartz points started large didn't mean to imply otherwise. But our bird points I don't believe we're a result of resharpening.
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
@@angelsinthearchitecture7106 Gotcha! I agree. The way that chert flakes, for sure they often made small “bird points” out of those flakes instead of working everything down through resharpening. Quartz just doesn’t quite have that ability…in most situations anyway.
@garyhashimoto59153 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHoundDetecting I agree with stumpjuice. A lot of those chert points were probably made from river cobbles or tiny spalled flakes. The farther away from the source the more conservative Natives were with the good material. The triangular Madison points for a fact were made that way, always small and thin. From the woodland period and meant for the end of an arrow shaft. Regardless always great to see what things you find next. Happy hunting
@nancyfarmer12693 жыл бұрын
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@sisterladyadventures31433 жыл бұрын
Truly Incredible and Amazing!! Wow- Does your state have a state archeologist? I bet they’d love to see this for state history, unless these are mega commonplace in your area? Either way- INCREDIBLE and fascinating to the nth degree :-)
@HistoryHoundDetecting3 жыл бұрын
Camp sites like these are abundant. Unfortunately state archaeologists have to significant funding…which isn’t plentiful…to due a thorough exploration of these sites. Most of these sites will get taken out by development long before they can be explored. A sad reality.
@kennethwood7133 жыл бұрын
dont let them get involved, if so you will never dig there again people keep your mouth shut to gov. and university's , I know for a fact
@georgedavis65832 жыл бұрын
I was just doing a little knapping tonight and I just threw away a few duds that look exactly like your smaller points.. maybe they keep the ones that turned out nice and just ditched the turtles...
@MrAvidOutdoorsman Жыл бұрын
Maybe its the remnants of what was left in the animal after they got it back to the camp and butchered it??
@alicemiller31392 жыл бұрын
Love watching your channel! How are you able to collect all these Native American artifacts? Are you on private property and getting permission to dig and take? I am under the opinion that if you find something, you must report it.
@HistoryHoundDetecting2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alice. I am indeed on private property and with owner’s permission. Most of my finds stay with the property owners collection. I don’t like taking artifacts if the land owner is keeping a collection from the property.
@jackscott655111 ай бұрын
I believe they left them cause they would only take the best with them