Arsenal have been BETTER than Manchester City this season? | ESPN FC

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On ESPN FC Live, Janusz Michallik and Kay Murray talk through the Premier League title race heading into the final weeks of the season, headlined by Arsenal and Manchester City’s chase for the title.
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@GiftKaunda-yg5mm
@GiftKaunda-yg5mm 20 күн бұрын
Most goals Fewest goals conceded Best goal difference Most clean sheets Undefeated vs Big 6
@biggzshaw700
@biggzshaw700 20 күн бұрын
😂😂 and will only acquire a community shield for all that hard work ... 💪 go arsenal 👏
@Dropkickurteacher
@Dropkickurteacher 20 күн бұрын
give yourself a pat on the back for not only parking the bus but getting away with a handball against liverpool
@jaysonmiru3563
@jaysonmiru3563 20 күн бұрын
@@Dropkickurteacheryou conveniently forgot to mention the clear penalty claim against Mccallister when he cynically uprooted Havertz going clear in the box v Liverpool. A triple jeopardy illegal goal gifted to Newcastle by Ref, VAR, PGMOL, west ham 1st goal illegal, ball out of play, goal allowed to stand. So City- Pool always has been a fraternity, Bride & Bridesmaid, no real rivalry, looking after each others’s Ref favouritism. Well done!!! 👍
@Aldo-fj7ep
@Aldo-fj7ep 19 күн бұрын
Anddddd. ... Bottle it again 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Goona187
@Goona187 19 күн бұрын
😢😢😢❤
@radonspace2098
@radonspace2098 20 күн бұрын
One game at a time Arsenal. Dont look too far ahead. Bournemouth would be tricky.
@thedoctor2085
@thedoctor2085 20 күн бұрын
I really hope we don't make the mistake of underestimating them. They're a really improved side
@flobodeluxe3531
@flobodeluxe3531 19 күн бұрын
@@thedoctor2085 5th best team in the league in 2024. thats hella impressive
@thedoctor2085
@thedoctor2085 19 күн бұрын
@@flobodeluxe3531 I didn't even realize that. Credit to them
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 18 күн бұрын
Yep, funny team Bournemouth ... they are playing some good stuff at the moment, and could possibly cause an upset, but I think Arsenal will scrape through ...... Wolves are at City later in the afternoon, and you don't really know what you're gonna get from them .. i am expecting City to win that though.
@betrthnu3413
@betrthnu3413 20 күн бұрын
It deflated Klopp and Liverpool, play so good, get so close and lose. City are mentality monsters.
@damii_11
@damii_11 20 күн бұрын
Bro.. it's 3 games left to go, what else do they have to prove 😂😂
@krisxchirbas9503
@krisxchirbas9503 19 күн бұрын
Maybe actually win something?
@naseibonsu8120
@naseibonsu8120 20 күн бұрын
Why didnt he say this when Arsenal where Top?! He is saying this because he thinks Cuty will win the league and it wont matter. Throughout the season he said city are the best. Smh! Pure waffle
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 18 күн бұрын
Whoever WINS the title, be that Arsenal or City, WILL have been the better side over the course of the season, because they WILL have won MORE league games ..... whoever you support, you cannot argue with that .. the stats, facts, and league table simply dont lie! Any team can go through a season playing entertaining, attacking football, West Ham did it for donkeys years in the days of Hurst, Moore and Peters, Spurs have been entertaining in past seasons, so have Brighton more recently .... but, if you fail to win trophies, all it does is make you good to watch .... without trophies, what good is it??? He's right about City not being quite as clinical and fluent as they once were, nor have they had the best of seasons as regards their usual performance and playing standards ... but they are still in the top two in the league table for good reason, they possess consistency, quality players, and a winning mentality ... even at 'half pelt', they are still a really dangerous opponent for ANY team!
@kwesiackon1296
@kwesiackon1296 20 күн бұрын
Isnt same guy that said Arsenal will finish 4th behind Spurs.
@Juan.Louis.
@Juan.Louis. 20 күн бұрын
I want Arsenal to win as welll
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter 20 күн бұрын
Have Arsenal had better performances inside their games than City (how they control games, their defense and attacking prowess, the eye test etc)? As a City fan I would have to agree, and fair play to them as they look like a well oiled machine while City look a bit more disjointed and chaotic on the pitch. For me, a lot of City's structural issues (specifically defense) is down to Pep new high line for which he does not have the right players to execute it and hence, there have been so many defensive issues: worst defense vs the counter in the PL; conceded more goal this season with 6 games to go than the entirety of the last 3 previous seasons; nearly every team we play, regardless of how good or bad they might be, they always are given legit chances to score against us on the counter given our absurdly high line. Remember, last season Pep tried playing Walker as a wingback to disastrous effect, especially in the NU game, and he then scrapped it. Opting to keep a flat back 4 against very attacking minded teams and going with the inverted CB for most other games. We have the same defense as last season, but what didnt work with Walker last season, Pep has decided to do it anyway while pushing the rest of the line much higher than last season. As a result, we always look shaky at the back and are conceding far more chances. It is down to Pep and his refusal to adapt it properly given we don't have the right players for as evidenced by our stats. Our poor transfer window is another issue - the board completely bottled it allowing 45GA to walk out the door in Gundo and Mahrez and not replacing with, or even coming to replacing it with proper players. Total GA from incoming players is 25GA so on that alone, City have a net loss of 20GA, and when you throw KBD out for 1/2 the season, there's another 20GA for a total of 40GA before the season even began. But at the end of the day, it is all about who wins the most games and drops the fewest points over a 38 game season. Regardless of the eye test, whichever team has won the most games, wins the league in practical application. Based on how well Arsenal are playing, they should win the league, but a few minor mistakes cost them which is why, City have the title in their hands even though on the eye, it doesnt look like that should be the case.
@asmanz9239
@asmanz9239 20 күн бұрын
🙂
@AngelitaBatchelor
@AngelitaBatchelor 20 күн бұрын
You’re right City just know how to win in any circumstances
@MichaelHattem
@MichaelHattem 20 күн бұрын
All fair points but it’s not just on the eye. Arsenal have scored the most goals and conceded the fewest. I wonder how many times a club has done that and not won the league. Has to be pretty rare.
@pratikroy227
@pratikroy227 20 күн бұрын
There's a lot of truth to what you have spoken but I will say this is the same defense that had been rock solid last season during our treble run. I don't think pep changed much if anything with how he plays and with his system during his tenure with us. Injuries has been a big part of it another would be a sudden loss of form of Ruben Dias who is unrecognisable if you have watched him last 2 season. Yes ofcourse Gundo and Mahrez was two very big misses but they both wanted to leave and you know Pep's motto we don't keep players that are unhappy that's bad for team unity. About our incoming I would give both Matheus Nunes and Doku time to settle in as this is their first season remember Mahrez needed a season to show his talents. I am more disappointed with Grealish's output so far if anything. Haaland despite leading the race of goalscorers anyone watches him will see he is not the kind of striker we are going to thrive with aka penalty box striker. We need someone like Kun (Aguero) who is good at link up play can drop deep has low center of gravity to take on defenders and ofcourse more clinical than Haaland (He has missed the highest big chances this season in PL that's defeating Nunez that's some feat and not good kind). Our season would have been still great if we did beat Real like we should have we had the chances late (Phil air kicked a tap in and KDB one on one with keeper failed to hit the target after scoring) and Real didn't even try to play the game they played like prime Burnley and ofcourse despite Ederson saving the first penalty and us scoring after that bernardo and Kova took 2 disastrous one. All in all if we get it done in PL and win FA Cup it's still a decent season better than any other PL club by a stretch so I wouldn't be too worried if that's how it ends.
@astrothelad
@astrothelad 20 күн бұрын
yeah it just comes down to you don't win the trophy for being "best" nor should you really...otherwise football would be even more predictable than it already is. maybe arsenal can nick it...city have definitely gotten some serious breaks this season due to lack of easy finishing (forest, chelsea, etc.), bad decisions (liverpool and others) so maybe it will finally even out a bit, but you never really know and that's what makes it fun.
@HarshaC85
@HarshaC85 20 күн бұрын
Zero Nonsense, this man is better than rest of the crew at ESPN
@sld1776
@sld1776 20 күн бұрын
John Stones has only played in 15 matches. That's a big signing if he's healthy next year.
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 18 күн бұрын
Sadly I think he's just one of those players who will never play a full season, he just attracts injuries, like he once attracted mistakes .... it's a shame because he has come on 'leaps and bounds', has increased his versatility in the team, and is now one of Citys most improved performers.
@jasonalexander6337
@jasonalexander6337 20 күн бұрын
She’s is 🔥😮‍💨
@yf9409
@yf9409 20 күн бұрын
City will not play like Arsenal yielding possession to Tottenham Hotspurs. Man-city will play their possession football and Spurs will play their high-line and they’ll be up for it. Spurs will either draw or win against City. Also Man-city are yet to win at the new Spurs Stadium.
@jasontyler17
@jasontyler17 20 күн бұрын
In the league. City won 1-0 in the FA Cup.
@Aldo-fj7ep
@Aldo-fj7ep 19 күн бұрын
Are you live under rock????
@brianshockledge3241
@brianshockledge3241 19 күн бұрын
We`ll see at the end of the season.
@coreypreece9798
@coreypreece9798 18 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan, I fear we will come to rue getting 1 pt. from Fulham and Villa, not to mention losing at home to West Ham and drawing Spurs. They are the best team, but a handful of mistakes will cost them the title.
@chancesareshewears
@chancesareshewears 20 күн бұрын
Fulham...just Fulham
@onelove7252
@onelove7252 20 күн бұрын
Wolves game hard for city.
@drty8765-ef1fd
@drty8765-ef1fd 20 күн бұрын
@@onelove7252 Don't forget spurs
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 20 күн бұрын
​@@onelove7252First it was Brighton then Forest and now is Wolves at the Etihad? 😂😂😂
@poolfans
@poolfans 18 күн бұрын
@@drty8765-ef1fdspurs been poor against Arsenal still should’ve get something. Arsenal were lucky to get all 3 points
@drty8765-ef1fd
@drty8765-ef1fd 18 күн бұрын
@@poolfans Says how salty liverpool think of us being in a title race and meanwhile they are out
@znhait
@znhait 20 күн бұрын
One thing that is certain about league titles: there are no flukes. Real have only won one knockout game so far but are still well and alive in the CL. Teams can’t bs their way to a league title. Whichever team wins is the best team in the league.
@DRIVER-SEBVET
@DRIVER-SEBVET 20 күн бұрын
In all honesty when Liverpool played Utd they should've been 4-0 at half time but had a competition between players to see "who misses the most chances".... If the current Man Utd meets the arsenal I'm telling you we'll bury them, Forget about missing those sitters cause we won't let Utd off the hook...
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 19 күн бұрын
Arsenal have played some really attractive football, and generally winning football too, nobody is denying that ....... but the bottom line is that they HAVE to win MORE games than City by close of play in May to actually WIN the title, otherwise what good is it???? If Arsenal DO win it then, as a City fan, i will be the first to stand up and applaud them .... they have played some great stuff, been good to watch, scored bags of goals, and will definitely have deserved it. However should City win it for a record 4th time running, then they will deserve immense credit for achieving an astonishing feat, and one in which they will 'stand alone' ...... NONE of the great managers or teams throughout the entire course of footballing history, including Fergie, Wenger, Paisley, Busby, Clough, Shankly, to name but a few, could ever manage it.
@trinigooner8865
@trinigooner8865 20 күн бұрын
ESPN with the SHAMBOLIC 720P resolution ffs!💀
@Narendra_Laden
@Narendra_Laden 18 күн бұрын
Don't really need the video quality when the main prospective is audio in this kinda video ain't it??
@virupakshawalla5734
@virupakshawalla5734 20 күн бұрын
Declan been great but in biggest games every fatal goal involved a mistake by him.
@MichaelHattem
@MichaelHattem 20 күн бұрын
Worth remembering that the 38-game league schedule is not perfectly even for all teams because London clubs have to play far more derbies than a team like City, who have one derby with United that has very little historical context or energy to it.
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 19 күн бұрын
Manchester derbies go back over 140 years, even to the days when both sides had former names .... they're about as historical as you can get.
@QuentinMajor
@QuentinMajor 19 күн бұрын
"Very little historical context or energy" to the most famous derby in English football? Lol, alright. Anything to make it seem like little old Arsenal have it rough 😂
@krisxchirbas9503
@krisxchirbas9503 19 күн бұрын
Tbf, arsenal also have perhaps the best officiating in the league, week after week
@lizbetkasape447
@lizbetkasape447 20 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂. City is never the best team. Not to the pundits anyways, they always have something missing. This is how Klopp ended up coming second most of the time. Because Pep Guadiola is always and inch better, he is a better manager. He will show it again and again until he gets bored.
@Mersey0810
@Mersey0810 20 күн бұрын
They have been but they were 2nd best against city and villa
@extricos
@extricos 20 күн бұрын
Same guy who said Arsenal will struggle to get into the Top 4 this season. He had City, Liverpool, Spurs and Man United ahead of them when he was making his season predictions back in August 2023. Now he wants flip the script and sing Arsenal's praises.
@KK-lg8uz
@KK-lg8uz 19 күн бұрын
you do realise you're supposed to update your opinion over time with new information right?
@viksinha5410
@viksinha5410 18 күн бұрын
Then how come Arsenal are only in the running for one trophy while we are in the running for two?
@anthonykiely4354
@anthonykiely4354 20 күн бұрын
Beat Bournemouth that's the only goal what M City do is not in our control, they are a fantastic team with massive experience, if you say to any Arsenal fan you will be bang there with 3 games to go we would take it
@ubachi1287
@ubachi1287 18 күн бұрын
when did Arsenal win champions league or Premier league Cup last u are comparing Arsenal better than City. what kind of better is that better without any win of any trophy, this issue of if Arsenal better than City is it not a foolish one
@elonslawsuit5004
@elonslawsuit5004 20 күн бұрын
Who cares - 4 games to go - its what happens NOW that matters.
@mesadofitness8774
@mesadofitness8774 20 күн бұрын
Westham will win for Declan rice as a thank you
@MrBigOvaNight
@MrBigOvaNight 19 күн бұрын
Arsenal have been better than City for sure. We will see if the Universe will still allow an upset to see Arsenal lifting the premier league trophy.
@dwaynelamberts3696
@dwaynelamberts3696 20 күн бұрын
Im an Arsenal fan but come on this should not even be a question city are going to win silverware Arsenal bottled the cl and all cup competitions
@virupakshawalla5734
@virupakshawalla5734 20 күн бұрын
Ferguson. Look at his winning points totals. His teams nowhere near level of Pep's teams. Watch Pep Barcelona vs Ferguson Man U.
@nabazaheer
@nabazaheer 20 күн бұрын
Villa fielded their B team against City. They should have had a go.
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 20 күн бұрын
So did most teams against Arsenal this season
@QuentinMajor
@QuentinMajor 19 күн бұрын
They had injuries and suspensions.
@Somaaliman
@Somaaliman 20 күн бұрын
This dude is the most sensible pundit of all ESPNFC
@HOLDENHIPHOP
@HOLDENHIPHOP 20 күн бұрын
it's because he actually provides analysis lol
@JP-fc6hq
@JP-fc6hq 20 күн бұрын
Of course arsenal been better. Better goals. Better defense. Less squad depth to achieve it. And they got 4 points off man city. Arsenal have been better. Doesn't mean they're a better team but they've defs been better this year.
@Narendra_Laden
@Narendra_Laden 18 күн бұрын
If you let this arsenal team win one league, i fear that they will be a hard team to stop. Just one title away from the believe for the players and they will be monsters
@2daysago_
@2daysago_ 20 күн бұрын
Stat wise YES they are better but that doesnt win them title because the bottled the villa game. If only they won that villa game the title could've been in their hands.
@poolfans
@poolfans 18 күн бұрын
If Liverpool beaten Spurs, Arsenal, City, Luton and Man Utd they would be 10 points clear
@satrajitsen9752
@satrajitsen9752 20 күн бұрын
most goals scored, least conceded, unbeaten against the so called top six and still may not be enough to win the league😢 what a season❤
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 20 күн бұрын
You missed the most important 1. Arsenal have lost 2 game more than City in the league 😂😂
@RELEONSK
@RELEONSK 20 күн бұрын
​@@GermanChickenwingand city have drawn more games. The reality with arsenal is that even the games they have lost you could argue they should really have won and in the majority you will see that the teams who beat them had lower xg and were just really clinical in front of goal, the west ham and Fulham at home games come to mind where they scored with each shot on target from kind of half chances that 9 out of 10 times dont go in, arsenal haven't had any games this season that I can remember like the Forrest vs city game last weekend where the opposition had higher xg, missed 3 sitters but still don't score
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 20 күн бұрын
@@RELEONSK Would you like to draw more or lose more? Do you know I can use the same argument on City?
@RELEONSK
@RELEONSK 19 күн бұрын
@@GermanChickenwing would rather neither, and ultimately whoever drops the least points wins the league so it is what it is. Well you tell me an arsenal game this season where the other team has missed glorious chances like the ones Forrest did against city? You won't find one this season
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 19 күн бұрын
@@RELEONSK No..I will ask again, which is better, lose more or draw more? Talk sense this time around..Which teams have missed alot of chances against Arsenal this season? Dude alot, just check the first half of the season
@ubachi1287
@ubachi1287 18 күн бұрын
Arsenal can never be better than City
@SkatePvP10
@SkatePvP10 20 күн бұрын
Lost the prem, lost the champ
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 20 күн бұрын
Well Cheaty may drop pts at Rotts so stop concentrating on Arsenal dropping pts etc
@QuentinMajor
@QuentinMajor 19 күн бұрын
Well, VARsenal may drop points at Old Toilet, so stop concentrating on City dropping points, etc.
@RoocoBeano
@RoocoBeano 20 күн бұрын
😂 so much pain!
@ma466
@ma466 20 күн бұрын
Arsenal lost 5 games.
@emmanuelakpan1774
@emmanuelakpan1774 20 күн бұрын
Arsenal lost 1-2 to Fulham away. They scored there.
@allenlopez9731
@allenlopez9731 20 күн бұрын
He’s one of the best of the ESPN crop. Far cry from pretend “pundits”, Hislop and Nicol 😂
@CarlosRojas-hr6ms
@CarlosRojas-hr6ms 19 күн бұрын
City played most of the season without their best player and they’re still on course to win the league. Very boring
@SlightlyTired
@SlightlyTired 20 күн бұрын
No they haven’t 😂😂😂
@geoffreysawe2112
@geoffreysawe2112 20 күн бұрын
We need to hope for aston villa lose..to bring back tottenham confidence
@jolugbofunmiladesimon5343
@jolugbofunmiladesimon5343 20 күн бұрын
Villa will drop point
@virupakshawalla5734
@virupakshawalla5734 20 күн бұрын
Arsenal have had more injuries than City ffs.
@Aldo-fj7ep
@Aldo-fj7ep 19 күн бұрын
Excuse..........😂
@virupakshawalla5734
@virupakshawalla5734 19 күн бұрын
@@Aldo-fj7ep its not its reply to idea others had problwe didn't
@mpendulolukhele1809
@mpendulolukhele1809 20 күн бұрын
The guy is just not objective for me poor analysis
@TWW-zk9gw
@TWW-zk9gw 20 күн бұрын
Everybody knows if we had honest referees, arsenal would be 2023 champions and closing in on a second consecutive title.
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 20 күн бұрын
All teams can say that
@SubZeroDNB
@SubZeroDNB 20 күн бұрын
@@GermanChickenwingthey can’t tho can they
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 20 күн бұрын
@@SubZeroDNB All teams have had good and bad calls this season
@TWW-zk9gw
@TWW-zk9gw 19 күн бұрын
@@GermanChickenwing wrong. All teams except City.
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 19 күн бұрын
@@TWW-zk9gw In that case your comment is invalid
@user-eu4gq5om8d
@user-eu4gq5om8d 20 күн бұрын
City has won the championship 🏆 again... Next season will be operation stop Manchester City 😊
@dunnoewatzgood
@dunnoewatzgood 20 күн бұрын
115 FC will be banned soon dw arsenal back to back champions
@thanasisv190
@thanasisv190 20 күн бұрын
City hasn't lost since December. Arsenal have. Don't post such nonsense.
@hamidjohn2567
@hamidjohn2567 20 күн бұрын
Bruh use your common sense when someone says better, they mean performances
@alexkidwell9307
@alexkidwell9307 20 күн бұрын
Cry more dude
@jacklowe3037
@jacklowe3037 20 күн бұрын
And arsenal only got 1 defeat since middle of January.
@shegelee
@shegelee 20 күн бұрын
In 2024, points gotten Arsenal - 40 out 45 possible points. City - 39 out of 45 possible points Arsenal's record against the Top 6 has been flawless this season and they have lost none while taking 4 points each off both title contenders then both London rivals. Arsenal has scored the most goals, conceeded the least goals, has the highest number of clean sheets and what have you. They deserve the title more than City atleast this season.
@thanasisv190
@thanasisv190 20 күн бұрын
@@jacklowe3037 City have zero
@kevinmillar1122
@kevinmillar1122 20 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 bottled the league and UCL explain how thats better 🤣🤣
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 20 күн бұрын
What? U mean like how Cheaty bottled the match against a STRUGGLING ReAL despite dominating the game? U supposed t b champions but u looked like Kidderminster
@Nobodycares11113
@Nobodycares11113 20 күн бұрын
Asssna FC been waiting for 20 years to win the EPL 😭 .... they can definitely wait for 20000 years more
@FredEmberg4444
@FredEmberg4444 20 күн бұрын
Anyone can see Saka is Dele Ali Mark II. One trick pony who will fade as he believes his own hype. And Im sick of seeing his tongue....ugh
@nathenpillay3445
@nathenpillay3445 20 күн бұрын
If they were so gud why they parked the bus against city why didn't they take city on they played like women's
@dangeloandersen4221
@dangeloandersen4221 20 күн бұрын
SHH ARSENAL WINING THIS LEAGUE
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 20 күн бұрын
Cry, þhen cry a lot more but b careful not to drown in u tears. Arsenal Parked the bus an yet Richy STILL couldn't score against them; if Richy r so gr8, why didn't they score against a PARKED Arsenal? Arsenal hav had Haaland/Fod-ders in their pocket all this season. 4pts taken off Cheaty this season plus the Com' victory over ulot.
@dangeloandersen4221
@dangeloandersen4221 20 күн бұрын
@@janysmahoney1271 ok
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 20 күн бұрын
​@@janysmahoney1271Thats why you will be 2 points behind
@richardzinhuka7236
@richardzinhuka7236 20 күн бұрын
​@@janysmahoney1271😂😂😂😂and City will win the league
@nathenpillay3445
@nathenpillay3445 20 күн бұрын
Wat rubbish are these clowns talking about arsenal lost 5 games knocked out in every competition city unbeaten in 30 games still in the running for the league and a FA CUP final
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 20 күн бұрын
Cry alot more but b careful not t drown in u tears; u can pull the wool over PGMOL an Lawyer'seyes but some pundits have a conscience an won't bow t ur bribes( t them), in making u crooked lot sound better than u actually are this Yr.
@krisxchirbas9503
@krisxchirbas9503 19 күн бұрын
​@janysmahoney1271 city are cheats, but so are arsenal. Stop pretending you're victims. You robbed liverpool and you robbed spurs twice and the moment you got a controversial decision against Newcastle (WHICH WAS CORRECT BTW) your team and manager start a huge media frenzy by blaming the refs. Disgusting
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 19 күн бұрын
Chill man an look forward t Cheatys forthcoming trial ; all clubs get some sort of dubious ref descisions along the way but NOT 115(off the pitch)charges worth. Arsenal( an other clubs) on pitch ref decisions r NOT the same as Cheatys 'cooking the books' an landing them in court nx season due t suspicious accounting.
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