Arsenal & Liverpool CHEATED! Howard Webb on Saliba Red Card🚨 PGMOL Fails Again!

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@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
The PGMOL’s handling of William Saliba’s red card, while correct under the DOGSO rule, exposes the glaring inconsistencies in officiating decisions. Similar incidents, like those involving Tosin and Van de Ven, were treated entirely differently despite appearing almost identical in context. This lack of uniformity raises serious questions about fairness and consistency. Coupled with controversies like those involving David Coote, it’s hard to avoid the conclusion that the PGMOL is not fit for purpose. Refereeing decisions feel arbitrary, with a lack of accountability or clear explanations, leaving fans frustrated and skeptical. Until the PGMOL prioritises consistency, transparency, and accountability, the integrity of the league will remain in question, and accusations of bias will only grow louder. Arsenal, like many clubs, deserves better. Football deserves better. The statement "WE CHEATED ARSENAL" reflects my interpretation of the actions and decisions made by the PGMOL, particularly in light of the inconsistency displayed in their officiating.
@djn1856
@djn1856 3 сағат бұрын
So u say correct decision, but they were cheated in your title. How does that add up?
@kaiowas12
@kaiowas12 3 сағат бұрын
Ever since the PGMOL received the letter about Arsenal's dark arts they have refused to give Arsenal the benefit of the doubt, might be a coincidence but the refs are utter trash so who knows
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
@@djn1856 Its very easy to understand - The PGMOL’s handling of William Saliba’s red card, while correct under the DOGSO rule, exposes the glaring inconsistencies in officiating decisions. Similar incidents, like those involving Tosin and Van de Ven, were treated entirely differently despite appearing almost identical in context. This lack of uniformity raises serious questions about fairness and consistency. Coupled with controversies like those involving David Coote, it’s hard to avoid the conclusion that the PGMOL is not fit for purpose. Refereeing decisions feel arbitrary, with a lack of accountability or clear explanations, leaving fans frustrated and skeptical. Until the PGMOL prioritises consistency, transparency, and accountability, the integrity of the league will remain in question, and accusations of bias will only grow louder. Arsenal, like many clubs, deserves better. Football deserves better. The statement "WE CHEATED ARSENAL" reflects my interpretation of the actions and decisions made by the PGMOL, particularly in light of the inconsistency displayed in their officiating.
@tristandippenaar3153
@tristandippenaar3153 3 сағат бұрын
​@@TheFootballTerraceyou just copied the text🤣🤣🤣I agree with you though sport is all about the feeling and when the arbiters or fairness (referees) are controlling the feeling of the game, thats when you know change is needed
@efremdaniel7259
@efremdaniel7259 3 сағат бұрын
Even if there are similarities in the Saliba and Tosin scenario, the main different is where Colwill and White are. Colwill in a running position would have caught up to Jota who would have needed 1 or 2 sec to control the ball while Ben White is too far from catching Evanilson even if the Brazilian needed to take a first touch. Colwill being that close makes it less of a DOGSO than the arsenal one
@ngoni4870
@ngoni4870 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks Terry for setting aside tribalism to tackle these difficult topics. Well done.
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
Very welcome
@riaz6386
@riaz6386 Сағат бұрын
👍👍
@garciav3
@garciav3 Сағат бұрын
​@TheFootballTerrace this reminds me of when the NBA refs were rigging games for sports betting purposes
@IDHANYT
@IDHANYT 3 сағат бұрын
The important factor here is that they 're-refereed' the game. The AR1 says that "Ben White is too far, but Evanilson doesn't have control of the ball". Meaning they SAW where White was, but despite that, it was still too far from goal and the player didn't have the ball under control. The VAR got involved in a subjective call, something they aren't supposed to do. None of the reasoning of the AR and on field ref was incorrect, yet they still VAR'ed the decision. Arsenal are always the "experiment", you'll repeatedly see us get reds and other poor decisions for things that you never see given again. Martinelli two yellows for one sequence of play, Rice and Trossard sent off for "delaying the restart" etc etc.
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
Very good point, they talk about not "re-reffing" games but every now and then they do.
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 3 сағат бұрын
Lfc fan. We can all highlight incidents where our team has been wronged tbh. Ultimately the system isn’t working and needs improving for everyone. Even the new tech being used in La Liga isn’t full proof after the Lewendowski offside ruling this weekend showed, but its still a lot better than what we have here and is a step in the right direction. Will it ever be perfect, probably not as a lot of decisions will have an element of subjectivity.
@minnumseerrund
@minnumseerrund 3 сағат бұрын
@@1972dsrai well everyone except City
@palynch
@palynch 3 сағат бұрын
Really good point. Judging by the number of similar incidents that ended in a yellow card the Saliba incident should then have ended in a yellow as that call by the ref is not a "clear and obvious" error, it's a judgement call.
@crispouk3070
@crispouk3070 2 сағат бұрын
@@1972dsraiyeah but a few teams get bulk of the wrong decisions. Why is that? Recently, United, Liverpool, arsenal, wolves are all getting unlucky af. Every few weeks. Not sure why that is though
@toby648
@toby648 3 сағат бұрын
Arsenal fan here. We got a dubious penalty given against us when we played Inter in the CL. Really harsh handball. I wasn’t mad though coz it’s a decision that’s consistently given in the CL. See where I’m going here? We just want consistency!
@gmanic
@gmanic 3 сағат бұрын
I was going to come back at you here until I read the second half of your comment. Respect
@40yearoldvirgil15
@40yearoldvirgil15 3 сағат бұрын
This is no where near the same as the chelsea defender on Jota btw
@crispouk3070
@crispouk3070 2 сағат бұрын
100% facts bro. I never feel like I moan at champions league refs. They have stinkers and good games but for both teams (unless you’re Madrid lol). In the prem it genuinely feels like bullying. Every single game we get extremely poor calls consistently against us pretty much every week. And then we get told every time that we are wrong for feeling like we got done over. Clowns
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 2 сағат бұрын
@@40yearoldvirgil15 How is it different?
@maestrohimself
@maestrohimself Сағат бұрын
@@40yearoldvirgil15 how about van de ven pulling down the crystal palace attacker. The spurs and crystal palace scenerio was worse, the attacker was closer to the ball and right outside the penalty box
@cdeford2
@cdeford2 2 сағат бұрын
I gave up on VAR when Doku's studs in the chest challenge didn't get penalised. I was a supporter before that but the implementation is just so bad.
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
The focus here is on the glaring inconsistencies in refereeing decisions, which should concern all fans regardless of club loyalty. Allowing tribalism to dominate the conversation only serves to distract from the real issue and ultimately benefits the PGMOL by deflecting accountability. Instead of turning this into a club-versus-club debate, we should unite in holding the decision-makers to higher standards. Addressing these inconsistencies is vital for the integrity of the game, and as fans, we must rise above petty rivalries to demand better from those in charge of officiating.
@lebingfc1044
@lebingfc1044 2 сағат бұрын
This inconsistencies is affecting every team in the premier league NOT just Arsenal as you always makes it look like.
@rachad13
@rachad13 2 сағат бұрын
Terry you talking about inconsistencies but what similar play are you comparing this video audio too this season? Also, you don't educate yourself every season on the new rules and tweaks towards rules and laws, something that was said last season might be judge differently this season.
@leslie6217
@leslie6217 3 сағат бұрын
If a red had been given on field, I wouldn’t argue it. But with a yellow given, I don’t see how it’s overturned, especially when considering all the other incidents. VAR is for clear & obvious errors, not refereeing.
@jaywrightesq.7730
@jaywrightesq.7730 3 сағат бұрын
It is pointless having Webb, Gallagher or any other former ref justifying the referees decisions weeks after the event. The footage could have easily been made available immediately after the game. And the referee himself should have been available after the game to speak up for himself as to why he made his decisions
@MrKnowledge0014
@MrKnowledge0014 2 сағат бұрын
Webb needs time to rehearse justifying every decision, and I.M sure sky also need rehearsal time as well, these shows aren’t run like live news it’s just pgmol propaganda.
@EnchantedLifePath
@EnchantedLifePath 43 минут бұрын
Seen how they described Coote, Friend, Mariner etc as being photographed with young women on Thailand on a lads holiday where they said they were just there to help an orphanage? We all know what type of people go to Thailand and lurk around orphanages!
@MajikBoxx
@MajikBoxx 36 минут бұрын
Yes it's very condescending to watch these same old talking heads (Webb, Gallagher, Neville, etc) repeatedly turn up, rehearsed, then drone on trying to justify how on that occasion, with that team, 2+2=5 this time. Embarrassing, if not frustrating. Without support of the fans for the game, these people wouldn't have their well-paid hustles.
@Peelywalley
@Peelywalley 3 сағат бұрын
Terry talking the truths that big channels avoid 👏
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 3 сағат бұрын
Lfc fan. The one thing we all need to get away from is tribalism and I appreciate you staying impartial and not just highlighting incidents where Utd were wronged. Having just seen the Lewendowski offside clearly La Liga doesn’t have it all figured out yet, but its still a step in the right direction. Maybe we just need to get back to a point where the attacker is given the BOD when they’re very close. If its just a tip of a toe it should be given. Hope what Collina said about it is taken seriously.
@crooner4848
@crooner4848 2 сағат бұрын
He ceased to be a United fan a long time ago. He's become a fully fledged Arsenal propaganda merchant and has been for a while and is probably enjoying his Arsenal stardom in swinging London.
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai Сағат бұрын
@@crooner4848 Who’d want to switch to Arsenal tbf? Most fickle bunch of fans ever. Can’t decide if they want Arteta to stay or go. It swings every time they lose a couple.
@vjaska
@vjaska Сағат бұрын
@@1972dsrai that's it, scape goat us based on people on Twitter - ignorant you must be. Have met some quite ridiculous Liverpool fans in my time, they exist in every fan base
@jaiisiinjaason
@jaiisiinjaason 20 минут бұрын
​@@vjaska💯
@Audorin
@Audorin 2 сағат бұрын
Well done. Fans needs to stand together on this, but that is not the case. Everything is okey in the eye of the biased, and this is truly harming the integrity of the game.
@mohammedahmed3763
@mohammedahmed3763 3 сағат бұрын
Atleast terry isnt afraid to tackle the difficult topics
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
It is important to discuss these matters, I do not believe this about giving clubs excuses or reason to fail, but would make the game better for all
@jacob4264
@jacob4264 3 сағат бұрын
It’s not a red. What the refs said on the pitch was correct. It was clearly just a yellow.
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
Thats a fair point
@40yearoldvirgil15
@40yearoldvirgil15 3 сағат бұрын
Haha No way
@dariuspalmer2829
@dariuspalmer2829 Сағат бұрын
​@@TheFootballTerraceHow is it a fair point when you said in your video it's a red
@zh1992
@zh1992 Сағат бұрын
Last man fouling the attacker has always been a red. Had all of these instances been red no one would be complaining. The inconsistency is the issue not the red card.
@dariuspalmer2829
@dariuspalmer2829 53 минут бұрын
@@zh1992 I agree you still have some of these fans thinking it was not a red
@EugeneNgosa-xt9ou
@EugeneNgosa-xt9ou 3 сағат бұрын
PGMOL always find reasons to justify why Arsenal players should be sent off.😂
@Ben_Gunner
@Ben_Gunner 2 сағат бұрын
There needs to be a independent oversight panel that reviews the PGMOL's own oversight panel.
@SlaynmySleepOSRS
@SlaynmySleepOSRS 3 сағат бұрын
Every time VAR gets involved against Arsenal it’s as if they are trying to find a way to screw them over! Trossard, Rice and Saliba red cards have all been VAR overturning on field decision. Then you see the lack of consistency with other games and the VAR not being equally as harsh against other teams for exactly the same offences! It’s terribly refereeing
@relax9674
@relax9674 2 сағат бұрын
Those 3 all where reds!!! Rice knew exactly what he was doing. All the antics comes from arteta however no doubt..
@LionKingMCFC
@LionKingMCFC 2 сағат бұрын
All actually red cards
@stevet9418
@stevet9418 2 сағат бұрын
@@relax9674That’s not what Slynmy is saying you clown.
@SlaynmySleepOSRS
@SlaynmySleepOSRS 2 сағат бұрын
@ they were harsh reds! Yes they were reds but very harsh reds that referees did not replicate in other games. Arsenal fans have reason to feel hard done by this season.
@drewbobagginsis530
@drewbobagginsis530 2 сағат бұрын
It's a red if all similar offences are reds. By rights even Salibas (Which is a red in my eyes) isn't a red based on other calls that weekend..
@rs82uk
@rs82uk 3 сағат бұрын
Gillet Desperate to find reasons to change Ref's mind. Ref and Assistant both thought white gets their easily. Gillet supports who? and who were arsenal playing the following week
@logical_nonsense42
@logical_nonsense42 Сағат бұрын
That VAR official is an officially documented Liverpool fan. Guess who Arsenal played the next game
@blessings515
@blessings515 25 минут бұрын
You are not logical and speakes nonsense just how you wright it
@leslie6217
@leslie6217 3 сағат бұрын
I don’t want to hear how it all averages out because it doesn’t. So many dropped points around contentious ref decisions for arsenal over the last couple of years.
@oriczeederberg7194
@oriczeederberg7194 2 сағат бұрын
I really believe that the premier league is corrupt. Why only the teams that are challenging Man City are getting robbed. And why are there no controversies against Man City.
@WolfBenjamite
@WolfBenjamite 2 сағат бұрын
SPOT ON again Terry - Keep calling out their lies
@hmanbatman
@hmanbatman 3 сағат бұрын
As a Chelsea fan when I was watching the Liverpool game and saw that I thought he was going off cause of the Arsenal game the day before
@903podcast
@903podcast 3 сағат бұрын
100% people always look over that all the fans are moaning about are inconsistencies not the actual officiating itself. Letter of the law only seems to apply to some teams
@gstokker
@gstokker Сағат бұрын
The question is whether VAR would have stopped play for Salah being dragged down if Nunez hadn’t scored the goal that Coote had waved as play on or if it would have gone with ref’s call?
@nathanielmicheal4830
@nathanielmicheal4830 3 сағат бұрын
Obviously they are Bias, it's very annoying how much inconsistencies we have in the premier League. Very poor poor poor, there is more to it.
@gregorykostidis9446
@gregorykostidis9446 3 сағат бұрын
I agree with Terry.Although i would argue that it's not Arsenal that was cheated(correct decision) but it was the other teams that were not given the correct decision
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
If Arsenal were the only team punished for an offense while others committing the same offense went unpunished, then yes, Arsenal were cheated by the inconsistency. The issue isn’t the correctness of Saliba’s red card-it’s the unequal application of the rules. Challenging these inconsistencies isn’t manipulative; it’s about holding decision-makers accountable to the standards they set.
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
But I get your point about Palalce and Liverpool
@gregorykostidis9446
@gregorykostidis9446 3 сағат бұрын
@@TheFootballTerrace Yes that's why i agree with ur analysis! All i am saying is the standards must be set by the correct decisions(which Arsenal's was) iF the basis is correct then we can judge them and hold them accountable easier and more precise
@georgeopiyo6004
@georgeopiyo6004 2 сағат бұрын
Being a soccer fan at this level is amazing . I am an Arsenal fan but these days I prefer fairness even if it is for Man United . Let the football speak within the Terrace . This Channel rocks !
@brendonthomas2555
@brendonthomas2555 2 сағат бұрын
As an Arsenal fan the issue here is the harsh bias and inconsistences. For our 3 red cards other teams did similar offences in the league, sometimes in the very same game and leniency was shown. It's not even debatable! There is clear refereeing bias against Arsenal and it started under Wenger. Rival fans and trolls love to see it until the nonsense bites their own team.
@faizalpatel900
@faizalpatel900 Сағат бұрын
Think the issue is they can't decide what VAR is for. Is it a ref re-reffing the game, is it for stuff that was missed or is it a tool for refs to make better decisions? Each one is different and needs different protocols. The Saliba one is a red but the others should have been too.
@ConnorWez
@ConnorWez 2 сағат бұрын
By far the most important football channel regarding these current affairs. Personal biases and opinions aside as a Liverpool fan, if you define a red card in the saliba challenge, the tosin one is the same, the van de ven one is the same, the saka one is the same. I’d be happy as a Liverpool fan if the tosin one was a red card, we won the game but it would’ve eased the pressure almost certainly. But if the saliba one was given and stayed a yellow, i could have no complaints. Just requires clarity and a black and white objective definition so that you avoid this biased viewpoint.
@GoonerDejv
@GoonerDejv Сағат бұрын
We gotta get this sorted for the love of the game! Good work Terry 💯💪🏾
@neilfitzsimmons1800
@neilfitzsimmons1800 Сағат бұрын
Why didn't VAR intervention when Ødegaard played basketball ball in the penalty area?
@obifinest521
@obifinest521 Сағат бұрын
It's because they hate Liverpool more. If they give that red, then Liverpool wins easily, which Cootes and PGMOL won't like.
@onelove154
@onelove154 2 сағат бұрын
The PGMOL reeks of mass corruption. This has serious implications for all teams, not just for those in the UK but for all teams competing in major football tournaments right across Europe. Every single game where PGMOL referees were in charge of Champions League, Europa League, should be looked at by UEFA. The PGMOL should be investigated for serious corruption. All the officials in the PGMOL should be investigated by UEFA or a separate impartial independent football organisation. The supporters of all clubs here in the UK and all across Europe need to stand together as one on this or the beautiful game will forever be tainted.
@AvaViviennes
@AvaViviennes 3 сағат бұрын
Your channel is one of the few that really enjoys the quality of content. Keep it up!😹🐆‍🔥
@toshisteven
@toshisteven 59 минут бұрын
Geez... All these interviews and shows with Webb and Gallagher are absolutely ridiculous. You can see how they have rehearsed what to answer, what excuses to give and how to make sure they are not subjected to criticisms (even when they admit they got some calls wrong.) Sky and other hosts are also well rehearsed on what to ask and what not to ask. They never raise any genuine questions nor do they bring up any logical counter arguments and confront the referee's decisions. Its as if they have practiced and rehearsed the whole show before going up in front of the cameras. Absolutely ridiculous these lot. Complete waste of time.
@nathanarelisky4545
@nathanarelisky4545 2 сағат бұрын
the Saliba audio and the way they broke it down was brilliant in my opinion.. but still inconsistent with other decisions later on.. therefore incorrect as more than one incident treated differently, surely the Saliba one was outlier and treated inconsistently..
@RichardJones-p2z
@RichardJones-p2z 2 сағат бұрын
Were you at the Bournemouth game?
@Golf-R00LS-73
@Golf-R00LS-73 2 сағат бұрын
Great video Terry.....think it's pretty obvious that this 'Boy's Club' of referees needs disbanding for good and new personnel and processes put in place. They are just an absolute shambles and most of the time, it comes across as either utter ineptness OR pure dishonesty !!
@KevinArmstrongUK
@KevinArmstrongUK 2 сағат бұрын
They never take any blame for inconsistencies, and say these calls are wrong. They say "a different outcome should have selected" . No accountability.
@fazali9
@fazali9 3 сағат бұрын
Sorry, but I'm not taking anything that comes out of Howard Webbs mouth serious. I mean this guys the same guy who left his wife and 3 kids for that female German referee. Therefore a cheat. Once a cheat always a cheat.
@MarkRyan-u3u
@MarkRyan-u3u 57 минут бұрын
Here is how the incident should be managed: VAR: Referee, we think you should come to the monitor and have a look at this. REFEREE: Did I make a clear and obvious error? VAR: Well, it could be argued. REFEREE: No VAR. My decision stands. We play on. And I'm not kidding. That is the ONLY discussion that should occur in these situations. (When the referee asks if he has made a clear and obvious error, if VAR says, “Yes”, the the referee says, “I’ll come to the monitor immediately.” VAR shows the referee the clear and obvious error. The referee says, “Thank you,” and changes his decision immediately. The whole VAR involvement should take NO MORE than 30 seconds. Anything more than 30 seconds is a nonsense.)
@Canada.2020
@Canada.2020 Сағат бұрын
Good job with your analysis. Unfortunately I think fans are so inundated with wrong decisions that there's just this awful feeling that matches these days are often ruined by referees, Every time a match comes around, you just pray for a good referee to do justice on the pitch, not just how well the game itself is played.
@zh1992
@zh1992 Сағат бұрын
The fact that rugby, with a fraction of the financial power is able to officiate to a much more consistent and higher standard than football is damning to the PGMOL.
@saadafm
@saadafm 59 минут бұрын
It’s like every big organization or publication in general outside of football acts this way as well. They get called out for biases, inconsistencies, contradictions and their only solution is to turn a blind eye and pray everyone will forget. The reality is us fans no matter what we say we can’t do anything about it. There’s no justice in the world. Sometimes I wish everyone could just boycott the prem, players as well. Maybe then something would be done.
@andyfowler7810
@andyfowler7810 2 сағат бұрын
Tribalism is not going to work for “real” football fans, until the pgmol sort their shit out we have a league that is in disrepute. How has football got so mudded in 5-10 years when it worked fine for 120-150 years. Crazy Love the content bro, keep on keeping on
@eliasgetachew5932
@eliasgetachew5932 3 сағат бұрын
If refs can't red conzistently they 'd see the reds, go home and watch like us.
@toshisteven
@toshisteven Сағат бұрын
Genuine question: Last week's Liverpool vs Aston Villa game, Leon Bailey who was the last man fouled Salah in the build-up to Nunez's goal. Salah was already through on goal but why didn't Bailey receive a red card despite the foul (with an advantage given)? Is it because the play ended in a goal?
@footycorner_tv
@footycorner_tv 2 сағат бұрын
I 100% agree. All 4 reds. Tribalism takes over and everyone wants to make themselves the victim
@Lanch15
@Lanch15 Сағат бұрын
The referee had a clear view on the whole thing. He speaks to his linesman and they both agree on the decision. What VAR did was basically re-referee that whole decision. I can understand if the refs view was blocked or something happened behind play, but this was just unnecessary. One ref says White was close and then another says on a still shot that he’s too far. They’re arguing against themselves
@andrewyoung9282
@andrewyoung9282 3 сағат бұрын
I don't believe it's a case of Arsenal being robbed. I believe that Liverpool were the next day. The presidence was set. There was a recent incident, that not many disputed, the day before when Saliba was sent off. Poor refereeing standards again. No consistency!! Ban VAR until referees have learned consistency.
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
That said, your point about Liverpool being robbed as well is valid, and it’s not something I discredit. I’ve acknowledged this in previous conversations-it just wasn’t the focus of this particular video. The broader issue here is that inconsistencies like these affect multiple teams, not just Arsenal, and it’s fair to question why the rules are not applied equally.
@TheFootballTerrace
@TheFootballTerrace 3 сағат бұрын
Also mate, VAR claimed the Jota incident was too far from goal and that Jota wasn’t in control of the ball. Yet, these same reasons weren’t applied to Saliba’s. Regardless of my opinion on whether it’s a red or not, how can such inconsistency exist when these factors are objective?
@obifinest521
@obifinest521 Сағат бұрын
But this should've been talked about with the same energy last season when Liverpool had 3 red cards in 4 games? Maybe it won't be as it is now.....​@TheFootballTerrace
@dan-rr5ic
@dan-rr5ic Сағат бұрын
i was celebrating when jota went down, ten years ago the ref would have had the red card out in a millie second. absolute joke.
@jayseabie215
@jayseabie215 Сағат бұрын
When identical ‘red card’ decisions only affect one team then we have a big problem. That by definition is not a fair playing field and Arsenal fans therefore have a right to feel hard done by.
@MrMallum
@MrMallum 3 сағат бұрын
I'm really liking these videos you're currently doing re the PGMOL issues and general refereeing standards. My fear is that Mr Coote will be used as a scapegoat to detract from the issues that really need to be looked into. It all needs to be torn up and rewritten but I suspect it will remain the same.
@Blowkala
@Blowkala 3 сағат бұрын
Why does it takes time to release this audio? This audio is doctored PGMOL is corrupt. How come it takes more than a month to release the audio
@Jeff-q4u
@Jeff-q4u 2 сағат бұрын
Don't quick attackers deliberately kick the ball away from slower defenders because they know they can out run and get the ball how they want it, and where they want it. The plodding defenders have no choice but to take down the player, that should be the criteria. Only just found this channel, but I've been thinking these thoughts for decades, cheers mate 👍 👏
@LFC_RAD
@LFC_RAD Сағат бұрын
When you listen to Howard Webb regarding those 2 incidents then objectively there was no robbery.
@michaels8638
@michaels8638 2 сағат бұрын
If i was rich id take the PGMOL to court so they can only be named GMOL because they surely can’t call themselves professional.
@toward3204
@toward3204 Сағат бұрын
Best take I've seen on.... taking last man out all red cards totally agree I played all across the back line unless I could get shoulder to shoulder I never ever put in a challenge if your last man and behind the attacker and you put in challenge 9.5 time out of 10 your getting or should be getting a red
@xradical89x
@xradical89x 2 сағат бұрын
yeah this is mess. absolutely outrageous.
@Gwhizz-q3h
@Gwhizz-q3h 2 сағат бұрын
Wait a minute a sport with huge amounts of subjectivity has inconsistencies? Shock horror.
@shubchatt
@shubchatt Сағат бұрын
Doesn't matter anymore. The damage is done. We should move on..
@mikey4483
@mikey4483 3 сағат бұрын
When I watched the game I thought red but there was never enough evidence to overturn the yellow. Now I don’t think it’s a red at all. The ball could go anywhere.
@arientshole114
@arientshole114 2 сағат бұрын
The disappointing thing is that the Premier League is a global product. This is a product that is sold to all corners of the globe, but the people who own it (english fans) dont seem to be bothered by their product losing its shine due to bad officiating, all they are conerned about is sticking it to Robbie and company
@tawedzerwazhou9951
@tawedzerwazhou9951 2 сағат бұрын
If you’re looking for consistency in 50/50 decisions like the Saliba Tosin incidents you’ll never be happy because at the end of the day it’s subjective and 50/50 you’re KNITPICKING at the wrong thing
@vjaska
@vjaska Сағат бұрын
It's not a red simply because it's not a goal scoring opportunity - the foul literally happened near the half way line and the striker still has 50-60 yards to run through to goal. Should of stuck to a yellow. Tosin incident shouldn't be compared because there was cover by a Chelsea defender so they got that one correct but even that one again is not a goal scoring opportunity because of how far away from goal it is. If anything, Van Der Venn should be the one that has you asking, "where is the red card"
@gotgirth6912
@gotgirth6912 3 сағат бұрын
Wasn't even a foul , minimum contact & the Bournemouth striker played for a red because he knew he wasn't outpacing Saliba
@garethparry6673
@garethparry6673 3 сағат бұрын
Even though he’s faster than Saliba?
@RichardJones-p2z
@RichardJones-p2z 2 сағат бұрын
So why didn't Arsenal appeal the red card?
@MrJudgementday99
@MrJudgementday99 Сағат бұрын
For me both were red cards
@mohra968
@mohra968 3 сағат бұрын
Terry don't get tired, don't give up. Hopefully one day things might improve
@intergalacticmuffin7071
@intergalacticmuffin7071 2 сағат бұрын
if it goes against Arsenal that should be ok because they are just a horrible club with even worse fans
@rstkDev
@rstkDev 51 минут бұрын
The difference is that Liverpool would be the beneficiary.
@Nite-owl
@Nite-owl 2 сағат бұрын
The PGMOL is simply unfit for purpose, as is VAR in it's current implementation.
@blkmambautube
@blkmambautube Сағат бұрын
The problem is re-refereeing game. How can you have two referees refereeing a game? One on the field and the other on VAR. VAR officials should not be referees. They should be experts that can use technology and make decision fast. It's time to use AI for VAR.
@CampslewTraining
@CampslewTraining 2 сағат бұрын
"Underhand" is an understatement 😂😂
@Red_Anachronism
@Red_Anachronism 2 сағат бұрын
Just simplify the rule: is he the last man, yes: red card The reason they overcomplicate the rules is so they can cheat and Var has exposed that
@PROgaming-fm6yu
@PROgaming-fm6yu 13 минут бұрын
the problem with Var is it can scrutinize far too much! instead of having one ref n the pitch. you now have multiple refs...and they still get it wrong. This brings out all teh conspiracy theories.....just give me back old school footy!
@chetmanley5031
@chetmanley5031 Сағат бұрын
Basically whatever team they think will be contending at the top against 115 FC. That team will get hammered by the officials
@andrewhylton8712
@andrewhylton8712 3 сағат бұрын
Terry is worried that the Assna fans will stop watching him now that his Assna are scary scam videos have been exposed as clickbait. So he has to make the Arsenal feel like victims.
@Breddaship
@Breddaship 44 минут бұрын
This is all Arsenal fans have said all season (really, multiple seasons if we are honest). And we were sodded off
@Vibez369
@Vibez369 50 минут бұрын
PGMOL n Co partying with Adult entertainers speaks volumes. They've compromised the whole league... A "Honey-Trap".
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 2 сағат бұрын
Stop the Tribalism !! Supporters of all clubs need to come together on this one - Tribalism is the only insurance cover PGMOL and the media have to prevent fan power from improving a game that is in the Sewer
@NS-ng2fp
@NS-ng2fp Сағат бұрын
And no-one is mentioning that semenyo had turn at the same time as White , and Evanison would have reach the ball first, maybe attack goal or use Semenyo.
@ashwingordon325
@ashwingordon325 Сағат бұрын
Doesn't matter Terry we all know they treat Arsenal different
@jermainecuffy1159
@jermainecuffy1159 43 минут бұрын
Palace was clearly red in my opinion but I’m not surprised Spurs got away with it they always do. Chelsea and Villa debatable but you can see why they wasn’t given - distance, angle, recovering defender.
@kritikal1993
@kritikal1993 Сағат бұрын
Even with audio evidence. They’ll make the decision go the way they want and nothing can be done about it. Any unbiased person can see all those incidents can lead to a clear goal scoring chance.
@tonyintrovert6508
@tonyintrovert6508 2 сағат бұрын
im getting worried / Could there be a ref strike or player strike or FANS PROTESTING?
@LG-jn5fx
@LG-jn5fx 2 сағат бұрын
The attacking player was going to be in possession of the ball around 25-30 yards from goal with the goalkeeper off his line. The attacker could shoot with his first touch or take it closer and then shoot. It was clear DOGSO. The VAR official was calm and looked at it closely and came to the correct decision. The Diego Jota decision was wrong , he was clear on goal the same way as the other attacking player. It was clear DOGSO and should have been a red card. I agree with you and the other instances should have also been red cards. Staying with the refs decision is nonsense , you may as well not have VAR if you are going to have that attitude. Let VAR do its job and come to the correct decision and not what the ref thought in the split second he had to see it. Whenever you have humans involved in decisions there will be inconsistencies and mistakes will be made. The PGMOL have to learn from their mistakes and try to be more consistent but it will never be perfect.
@MrPedrohed
@MrPedrohed 46 секунд бұрын
The rule is last man gets sent off no matter if they are in control of the ball. Liverpool and Arsenal are victims of absolute inconsistency either they are both red cards or they are not and if you go by the actual rule they should both be red cards!
@tris87don16
@tris87don16 3 сағат бұрын
Of course Arsenal were cheated but we’ve been getting ⛽️💡 all season CLEAR & OBVIOUS is when VAR intervention comes into play. The incident at Bournemouth was subjective so therefore the call that the on field ref made should have stood. At Anfield the following day where was the intervention of VAR & at Selhurst park with VDV? Also how is it that a known Liverpool supporter that can’t officiate Everton or Liverpool games allowed to officiate Arsenal? I still haven’t been able to get an answer.
@AliG-ef9jh
@AliG-ef9jh 2 сағат бұрын
These weirdos even giving every 50/50 to teams that play against Arsenal
@Yiannis-St
@Yiannis-St 3 сағат бұрын
Ollie won't give Liverpool a decision, no surprise. Same ref who wouldn't give Kovacic yellows against Arsenal?
@samuelbangura2739
@samuelbangura2739 3 сағат бұрын
Terry u are great....
@kehzito
@kehzito Сағат бұрын
This is opening old wounds; this people clearly has it out for arsenal
@leed5078
@leed5078 3 сағат бұрын
Someone's trying to deflect because he's the head of a group not fit for purpose,
@esaacjay
@esaacjay 20 минут бұрын
Where are VAR 'experts' found and employed? Are they qualified refs? I trust a ref's instincts more than faceless guys influencing games based on how they choose to interpret camera footage.
@jermainecuffy1159
@jermainecuffy1159 55 минут бұрын
It’s not even a debate, Saliba is a red card
@F1ukez
@F1ukez 31 минут бұрын
I swear theres too many people talking on VAR. Too many inputs
@bryanbelshaw7725
@bryanbelshaw7725 Сағат бұрын
Coote wasn't going to give a foul, or a clear red card, for a professional foul on Salah last Saturday. Liverpool, and Coote imo, are lucky that Nunez went on to score. That's been swept under the PGMOL carpet. Sky, or their bought and paid for pundits, won't make waves.
@yushaaabrahams481
@yushaaabrahams481 Сағат бұрын
Old boys club... I think its naïve to think the PGMOL are going admit wrong doing but it is as clear as day that there is bias and massive inconsistencies
@David-xy2ly
@David-xy2ly 2 сағат бұрын
I thought they got to right decision on red card, with foul on forward running through.
@robertoriccio6515
@robertoriccio6515 2 сағат бұрын
Is it just me or has every team in the Premier League been cheated by PGMOL except Manchester City?
@CJ4YRD
@CJ4YRD 2 сағат бұрын
Jota was also pulling Tosins shirt. Had he not been doing that I don't believe Tosin brings him down. Yellow card offence. Not an inconsistent decision imo
@mrobolance143
@mrobolance143 2 сағат бұрын
VAR didn't mention it so it wasn't taken into account, hence can't use it as evidence. The two fouls were the exact same
@CJ4YRD
@CJ4YRD Сағат бұрын
@mrobolance143 well we can't say it wasn't mentioned. No audio has been released. It's not the same offence. I've also stated IMO so it's irrelevant if it was mentioned. That's why I believe it wasn't given as a red.
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