Art of the Unconscious Mind

[@BloodyBehelit]

Only reason why I love coming to work 1- getting a paycheck 2- getting a Hochelaga video in the middle of my shifts

[@히끼히끼-v8e]

"even without thinking, our busy minds are creating little pieces of art, all the time." such a whimsical way to view it

[@neilerator]

Noteworthy is also the use of dreams in classical music. Immediately there comes to mind the "devil's trill sonata" by Guiseppe Tartini. Tartini himself said: "One night, in the year 1713 I dreamed I had made a pact with the devil for my soul. Everything went as I wished: my new servant anticipated my every desire. Among other things, I gave him my violin to see if he could play. How great was my astonishment on hearing a sonata so wonderful and so beautiful, played with such great art and intelligence, as I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy. I felt enraptured, transported, enchanted: my breath failed me, and I awoke. I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain, in part at least, the impression of my dream. In vain! The music which I at this time composed is indeed the best that I ever wrote, and I still call it the "Devil's Trill", but the difference between it and that which so moved me is so great that I would have destroyed my instrument and have said farewell to music forever if it had been possible for me to live without the enjoyment it affords me." It's a really interesting musical work and I highly recommend listening to it!

[@parallax256]

Hmm...

[@penelope-oe2vr]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@1703702]

I was certain this would be a Tenacious D "Tribute" joke. Excellent tidbit.

[@hundredgrander]

I wonder how vivid dreams would be without my tech addiction

[@vincenttt8289]

That's what drugs are for

[@raulpetrascu2696]

My dreams would be so boring if I didn't watch so many movies

[@samhhhhh]

I use tech all day and still have vivid dreams

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

I don't know. Most of my dreams often take place in a dreamland version of the real world, oftentimes my hometown. I get scenes where my house is bigger than I remember them or how fancier the mall is. Sometimes, I get a great turquoise sea beside it or the skies look like straight up from the Flammarion Engraving and Zodiac charts...

[@Anna-po1sb]

I have dreams of going to a really old big house way out in the countryside. I also have dreams of really big waves in the ocean and they make me excited and happy. Those are the most common 😅

[@Tomiculous_Budd]

I've always been incredibly interested in theology, I'm so glad I found this channel

[@Rotisiv]

They are an atheist though. Are you interested in the critic of theology?

[@perodudla4451]

@@Rotisiv Yet another self hater 🤭

[@joeyuncard3956]

@@Rotisiv he’s agnostic, he accepts that we can’t prove or disprove anything. This means there is no bias in the explanations

[@Washeek]

@@Rotisiv Wow... Did you know that many theologians are atheists without being overly critical of religion? That there is a criticism to be made of a theist or deist theologean? Or do you truly believe that study a chimpanzee one must first be a chimpanzee themselves? To study music, one must play an instrument and to study film, one must be a filmmaker? And don't get me started on geology experts. They have these warm hearts. Completely unlike the rock and stone they study.

[@Moodboard39]

always gotta be some loser in the comments@@Washeek

[@-Gojiro-]

I sing his praise whenever I can, but Zdzislaw Beksinski embodies a wonderful mix of surrealism and the macabre. My favorite artist.

[@hellbound_psyker]

100%, he's my biggest inspiration as an artist

[@lctreml1337]

i know i sound old and crusty for saying this, but i have a burning hatered for ai art. like, imagine growing up your entire life with the dream of becoming an artist. art isn't just a passion, it is the air you breathe and the blood in your veins. it is what gives your life meaning, the reason you're still alive, what pushes you onward into the future. And then some computer people just decided "hey let's program ai to do what artists do, but faster and cheaper." at that point, why pay an actual human artist for a comission when you could just type a prompt into an algorithm for it to spit an image resembling art almost instantly. with the way tjhings are going, in a few years i wont have even a hope of getting a job, much less being able to make a living on this skill that i've been tirelessly building FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE. i live to create art, and if that's taken away from my by some lifeless, souless lines of code (which realitsically is what's going to happen), then i don't know what i'm going to do.

[@BradfordtheEclectic]

You're conflating digital images to physical works of art. My linocuts, or digitally rendered Artistamps printed then oerforated on a 19th Century Rosback perforator can be shared by mail throughout the world. Likewise, a watercolor or oil painting or pen & ink drawing are physical works of art and; therefore, different from something that appears on a computer monitor. EDIT: I should add that I'm old if not crusty.

[@Moodboard39]

stop whining lol u act like is the end of the world lol no matter, people still support artist...created always something new ....wtf u talking about?

[@wesleyschwartz6800]

I'm right there with you. I think it's a crime though to try to pass Ai work as real art. He'll I'd pay you for work if i had money to spare

[@ShadowWizard123]

I always assumed the 'mare' in the word nightmare had something to do with a horse. I had never heard of the mara creature until watching your video. Very cool stuff.

[@sludgeskin]

the scary dream horse

[@TheArtofKAS]

Yup. Those german folk tales are friggin rediculus.

[@Maus_Indahaus]

In Serbian it is Noćna Mora, and there was among pagan Slavs a goddess Morana that was considered evil. Even today the rivers with the name of Morava bare her name. Both words Noć and Mora have a common Indo-European origin, in Latin night is Nox, Spanish Noche, Lithuanian naktis etc.

[@SpicyTexan64]

@@TheArtofKAS Your spelling is more ridiculous

[@TheArtofKAS]

@@SpicyTexan64 😂😂. Wait until you get to the old English folktales my friend 😎

[@vandread]

The jellyfish thing really fascinates me, since I see images like that in my mind quite often. Whenever I close my eyes and let go of focus, my mind starts to float and generates images that constantly change and morph into different things, growing complex in the same way a drop of ink in water would. I struggle to represent and explain the experience, but it is incredibly fascinating, and I am wondering if I am alone in this? Does anyone else experience this?

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

I definitely do that too.

[@Sqk.]

Yep, happens with me as well.

[@thepinkbunnyempire1027]

I sometimes have that type of experience when I close my eyes in a car. I see things in my imagination. Sometimes they change and morph, other times they paint an alternate reality vision.

[@vandread]

@@thepinkbunnyempire1027 Do they start out as sort of neon lines on a black background, gradually getting filled in by something like dots, until the dots and line so heavily imply the colour of the background that you no longer notice the black background?

[@brokentoy8616]

@@vandread I get what you mean, but i also see like bright blobs that float about and jitter and morph and change colour. its hard to describe the texture or movement of them cause like there vague and blurry a lot of the time and its less like they move and more 'morph' into a different movement at times. if that make sense? and i notice they often just 'repeat' the movement over and over, like one looks like a person getting up out of a chair so it will keep doing that, get out of chair, fade away, reappear and get out of chair over and over

[@majyckle]

The synchronicity of your videos at the same time i am looking into a subject... I love it.

[@4namolly]

Yeah it's been weird lol

[@wolfiemuse]

I can’t congratulate you enough on The Interruption. I can’t wait until articles and podcasts talk about the research you did and how good of a job it was. ❤ Glad I found you about a year or so ago. Now a loyal fan! Love your work. Thank you.

[@Shady-Shane]

same here, i'm on my second time round, due to the odd interruption.

[@wolfiemuse]

@@Shady-Shane I love it. Haven’t listened to it a second time cause I’m on a true crime binge (strongly recommend the Casual Criminalist on KZbin or podcasts, it’s on both) but I need to listen again!

[@UbiquitousPolitic]

I’m a novice surrealist paint/ink artist but I have spent hundreds of hours with AI doing exactly as you stated at the end of the video, and I completely resonated with it. I use it as a way of intentional, yet unconscious art, and with human specificity of particular grammar, tone, etc. it’s extremely possible to literally make dreams a reality before my hands could ever get it on to a page the way I wanted it. I’m not a huge fan of how AI is being used, but for me it’s been rather transformative. Amazing video, don’t know how I missed this one, got lost in the algorithm I suppose but incredible work as always!

[@Moodboard39]

ai is garbage

[@Moodboard39]

Don't don't use Ai and call yourself a artist

[@tigerhooouse]

i really love the way you describe unconscious art, and the concept of picking up little bits of art all the time especially in relation to seeing faces in various places.... sometimes when i'm just starting at a tile or wood or anything with a variated natural pattern i can visual art in it. not always faces (but often so) just styles and artwork that i can piece together from the shapes i can make out, like 'automated drawing' that i didn't have to do lol. i also had an art professor at one point who was a surrealist, and they had us all doing these automated drawings and picking out shapes among our work to go off of, often (among classic stuff like chiascuro) :) this video pretty much summarized my love for surreal art and this process.

[@MaximumMagnum]

Easily one of my favorite channels

[@sammyporter3144]

Oh man this is peak KZbin no exaggerating this is the best video of this type on KZbin. Mr. Hochelgas voice is what I imagine laying in a swimming pool filled with down comforters.

[@EinarEle]

Art isn't only paintings. Literature, sculpture, song, poetry, even dance are all art.

[@Shythalia]

Not just song but music in general.

[@NoriMori1992]

Did anyone here say otherwise?

[@grimble4564]

Surrealism is my favorite form of art, amazing video

[@ahgwsn]

i second that

[@venepskeuten9206]

Gotta love not properly being able to remember ones dreams, only ever hanging on to a sliver that will escape once your thoughts move even slightly to something else.

[@krzysztofczarnecki8238]

Remembering dreams at all has a lot to do with how you feel when falling asleep and the amount of sleep. Ideally you'd wake up just as the dream is ending, to get the most of it but not have forgotten it. This, however, requires active monitoring. Just sleeping long enough and falling asleep really relaxed (could be relaxing, but not boring and lifeless music) in my case tends to yield more dreams. Also ashwagandha and lidocaine sore throat pills increase the chances of having dreams, though I do not take them specifically for that purpose. also, I didn't say good dreams, just any kind. Even some bad dreams are to me better than just wasting time when sleeping, at least they are interesting. And to remember a dream you remember having, it is crucial to think of it a lot during the day you had it, especially the first hours after waking up, and maybe the day after. The first few hours or days after any event is when the short-term memory is being copied to long-term memory if deemed significant by the brain, or forgotten otherwise.

[@ioannastergiou6068]

I woke up with something sitting on my chest about ten years ago, the experience terrified me , until I researched it and discovered sleep paralysis. It hasn’t happened since and I promptly became a side sleeper

[@vutruongquang3501]

Great video and I want to add that the Japanese has a monster of dream too - Baku - and its a good kind of monster thankfully. I wish you known and added it in this video.

[@madddog7]

I had to look that up: from wkipedia _"Baku (獏 or 貘) are Japanese supernatural beings that are said to devour nightmares. According to legend, they were created by the spare pieces that were left over when the gods finished creating all other animals. They have a long history in Japanese folklore and art, and more recently have appeared in manga and anime. "_

[@vutruongquang3501]

@@madddog7 thank you for the explaination, many will find it helpful.

[@june2409]

Another amazing video! I must say this is by far my favorite out of all the videos you've created. I haven't paid attention to surrealism art for such a long time, and this has piqued my interest again to delve in this form of art, so thank you!

[@slimvdv]

Came here to say thank you for making these incredibly interesting videos, I discovered you a couple weeks ago and have been enjoying your content a lot! Congrats on the podcast too, incredible work.

[@lollipoplemur5073]

Loved this. Dreams and art always fascinates me

[@deltonmcclary7341]

Whoo hoo!! Best day ever, thanks Hochelaga!!

[@criscat1750]

Automatic drawing is actually a technique alot of legendary artist today use to make massive murals straight from imagination. Its also something very fun to do, iv made some freaky stuff that makes zero sense.

[@katyalambo]

I just finished The Interruption; bravo!! I was throughly absorbed. Great work 😊

[@bootsie5396]

Bro some of these are so sick why are these never shown in museums

[@benmcreynolds8581]

The subconscious is such a facinating thing. In one way, you can say subconsciously we freely have all types of thoughts and feelings. It can induce anxiety, yet if u learn to not overthink, or judge. You can embrace that subconscious. Almost like allowing ur inner youthful wonder join your adult self and when balanced right. It can really fuel creative imagination in our Life and the acceptance of the absurdity of the universe and the parts of it that are seemingly unanswerable. Yet those unanswerable aspects of the universe in another person who hasn't found this inner balance, can be driven mad from overthinking and worry.

[@FettuccineAllaGay]

yooooooooooooo, Aboriginal Australian mention in Hochelaga!!!!!!!!!! 🖤💛❤

[@Funny_Muffler]

It’s funny, only a few years ago did I notice that 8:23 was a closed eye. I always saw it as a weird human-nosed, platypus-like blob monster with a mustache when I was little!

[@woahkei]

babe wake up, hochelga just posted

[@jq5249]

>A KZbinr mentions AI art without bashing it Hell froze over, pigs have begun to fly.

[@feralbluee]

9:35 this painting is actually quite good. And it’s not just scribbling. Like Pollock, it has a form, a center of attention (can’t remember the right phrase), melds together, is interesting, there are forms within it like in a dream, and it just works. . . because this guy is an artist. 🌷🌱

[@riccardolongo5207]

"De Cicero" hurt me so much. Constructive criticism: De Chirico actually had lots of debates and he actually despised surrealism as a whole, other than that, GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL

[@monvrx]

Love this video, everything is on point, couldn't have wished for a better surprise on a moody and gloomy Wednesday! 💌

[@emeraldyt3525]

wednesday?

[@monvrx]

@@emeraldyt3525 it's thursday isn't it

[@BradfordtheEclectic]

@@monvrx Imagine how gloomy it would appear if on a Thursday you were still stuck on Wednesday and life was passing you by.

[@monvrx]

@@BradfordtheEclectic funny how today was once again one of these gloomy thursdays that had me thinking it's wednesday. I should stop dropping acid so much.

[@imakevidstech]

9:03 Earliest depiction of the Vaporwave a e s t h e t i c lmao

[@scxtt1336]

It could be argued that artificial intelligence artwork does come from a consciousness, or rather a collective human conscience. Often this AI programs will draw on Internet images and searches to create this image, and these searches and images are uploaded by humans. If the AI program is asked to produce an image of Santa Claus, it does so using online user inputs, such as images of Santa Claus people have created. The image produced is an amalgamation of thousands of different people's inputs. I think AI art is very interesting as it explores something that's difficult for one person to capture. Surrealism explored individual consciousness, while artificial intelligence explores a collective consciousness.

[@psyche1988]

In other words: BULLSHIT ! AI remixes other people's art, it does so without any intent or purpose, psychological basis or rationale. The nerve of comparing the human psyche with an algorithm..

[@shushiwoo]

That's interesting

[@Moodboard39]

exatcly

[@Moodboard39]

bingo@@psyche1988

[@Moodboard39]

comparing mind with a pc is stupid

[@stratisphere40hz]

The best channel on the tube!

[@thunderstock9649]

Awsome video. I was always intersted in the topic of surreal art and now one of my favorit youtubers makes a video about it. Nice

[@thisbee66]

Your videos are works of art. You really guide the mind and I and imagination walked thru a garden of earthly delights. Thanks a gazillion.

[@Riot076]

On the topic of dream-inspired art - the main man behind the terrific, yet nowadays inequitably forgotten musical project - maudlin of the Well, who goes by the name Toby Driver (idk about the other members of the project who were changing from album to album), stated to "find his music for it in the astral plain" through lucid dreaming and astral projection, rather than compose it. Now whether you believe in astral projection or not (I myself am a firm sceptic towards such concepts), the music created under this project, at least to me is really sth else and strictly for me it's one of the most if not the most important pieces of music I've ever heard and there totally is sth surreal about it. If you're interested in it, I'd recommend starting with the album "Bath", then "Leaving Your Bodymap". It's truly some amazing stuff

[@unnecessaryaddition]

I love this channel

[@PeasantForADay]

I missed your videos, mate. Thanks for uploading.

[@WhitneyDahlin]

I LOVE your channel so much! Thank you for making such interesting and thought provoking videos ❤

[@supremereader7614]

You're one of the best youtubers...

[@arpadrideg9864]

Best quality videos on the platform

[@guineverecarr3413]

I always look forward to your videos. I really liked this one!

[@mvrheiden]

In Finnish nightmare is called "painajainen" which comes from the word "painaa, painaja" meaning "peress, presser". In folktales it's a creature, like a troll, imp or evil spirit who sits on your chest.

[@ModernMedusa]

I need like 5000 more videos like this. Please do Hindu myths soon! 🙏🏻

[@arthistory4u]

Surrealism is probably the most interesting art movement! Great video!

[@Moodboard39]

Yes, many fine it weird

[@Nodim1er]

Hi Tommie, this comment has no direct link with this video specifically; but I just finished the last episode of "the Interruption" podcast. And boy, was it good! All my congratulations, and thanks, for this awesome content.

[@CaitlinKoi]

I was with you on the entire video until you started talking about AI art. It was interesting as an experiment at first but its predation on thousands of artists has overshadowed any merit it had of being art to begin with.

[@JustAGentlemanZ]

Unless your like me and have Aphantasia and once you close your eyes all you ever see is darkness while awake and during sleep. Some with this condition can have some visualizations to varying degrees during dreams. But dreams for me are simply plot points, words, and descriptions as best as I can put it. If you’ve never heard of this please check it out as it’s a fairly newly recognized phenomenon and this condition has very little to no research into it yet. My dream is the creator of this video reads this comment and becomes inspired to create a video about his impressions on this subject that would be very intriguing to me and I think many others as well. Dream on fellow readers❤

[@elpepe-wx7oj]

always love catching up with these videos, keep em coming!

[@NemoCurat420]

Just wanted to say, are my favorite chanel.

[@MikeP2055]

This was a dang delight. (Edit: I'm surprised you didn't mention the face in the Dali painting with all of the spheres. 8:34 I had to rewind it because I hadn't noticed it until just before the scene changed.) (Double-edit: Now I can't UN-see it! How did I miss her the first time?! My focus must have been on individual spheres rather than the painting as a whole. I've gotta find a print of this. I love it!)

[@PinchyTheKittyGirl]

I can't even explain how much I loved this video.

[@Williams-df6lj]

Luckily I have been able to write down some of my dreams but some of my dreams have been so vivid that they feel like memories

[@onefeather2]

As always i find your videos one of a kind, wishing you Happy Holidays and hope we will see more of your videos and different subject matter the end of this year and in 2024.

[@UFOCULTVHS1]

Excellent as always

[@timelapse11]

I love keeping a record of my weirder dreams, I have them written down in a book, I like to add drawings of them whenever I remember enough detail. One I turned into a digital painting, but most are just biro sketches.

[@BradfordtheEclectic]

Excellent! Keep up the good work.

[@petersicheri1150]

Such a great video I love your voice I love the pace of your informative mind your British accent just awesome 👍.. loving the video about it and then watching more and more keep it up 😋👍😁

[@hhgff778]

The aborigines: "hey look I drew a strange dream I had" "Wow!" Some guy on the internet somewhere in the future: "ah, yes, they clearly have been visited by extraterrestrials, amazing how the history of humanity (but mostly in south America, Asia, Africa and Australia) was influenced and maybe even decided by aliens."

[@pexpix]

I didn't want this video to end! Well done :D

[@PowWowChikaBowWow6902]

Ngl, that apocalypse had me thinking that he dreamt that he was tiny and rain appeared as giant drops of water to him

[@malfare_benefare]

Btw The Interruption was an absolute blast, i loved it! Cheers 🍻🍻

[@robertt8822]

THE INTERRUPTION WAS AMAZING

[@skyegirl22]

wow this is one of the first videos of yours ive seen and wow!! such a cool topic and presented so well, thanks for the vid :)

[@genghis_connie]

Loved this!

[@eufofdlaniger]

Nice vid and ending! Lot of people refrain from talking AI art whenever its being brought up, like some kind of taboo. But I think its cool that we discuss it, since its the only way to come up with a conclusion. You're such a gem of a channel on this platform.

[@purplehaze2358]

4:10 Fun fact: This one painting is actually the origin of the word "nightmare".

[@penelope-oe2vr]

I fly in my dreams. I also have premonitions. I wish I could put them into visuals. I love your channel!

[@jcope1497]

Loved it, keep it up!

[@angelomarquez1946]

I love your vids!! You deserve to have 1 mil subs! Soon! 🤞🤞

[@Moodboard39]

fake subs

[@12sleep34]

make a video on the finnish national epic, Kalevala. itsa cool story

[@kire5442]

Your thorough explanation on the development of this Art direction has sparked some thoughts. Surrealism would be a means to an end when anything that is oddly put together is generally categorized as something from the dream-like realm. I think there could be more. As I question the potential of this art form, I fell back to the application of lines and took off from Surrealism while following the same trend of thoughts on conscious, subconscious and unconscious. The works up to now are still nevertheless rendered by the cognitive brain to make an image recognizable. Therefore, any finished artwork is very much intentional instead of naturally flowing out from the psyche. I can see the residue of a face in Andre Masson’s drawing. It is the closest anyone has gotten to the brink between subconscious and conscious (ie. he did not `properly’ finished the face). Unconscious, on the other hand, I’d say, is scribble mindlessly without any sense involved. Artistry and character can be noted in subconscious lines. From the works of Mondrian, Miro to Pollock, the accidental crossing of lines has proven a faith in action. It is a belief, as Alan Watts put it, `an unreserved opening of the mind to the truth’. Without cognitive interference on the lines is the only way to keep the doorway open to the flow of hidden messages and revelations. The ancient Chinese used an instrument to write on sand for directions from the `higher order’. It is a kind of fortune telling... tapping into the future/unknown. So, if I were to scribble lines on a page and found faces/figures/compositions hidden in between, would this be a revelation, a step further…or something totally off track from Surrealism? Or merely pareidolia? Anyone? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKDGZmygrtykoZo

[@Moodboard39]

whats your point

[@arianagandhi7634]

please tackle about the DMT creatures.

[@pyoheliobros5773]

Very interesting topic!

[@antoniobianco1825]

Thank you very much for the several sparks given in this video. As a history of art teacher, I appreciated it very much. The only concern is about the pronunciation of Italian artists: both De Chirico and Arcimboldo were definitely wrong. Thank you anyway, it is really a great summary of the dreams and unconscious in art.

[@averagedelta]

I once had a dream about this enormous tree, way before Avatar came out. When I saw the movie for the first time, it was more terrifying than cool. I look back and it's just funny now.

[@isellcrack3537]

Fun Fact: "The Scream" is an auto-portrait.

[@gnarlando6498]

Fantastic video man keep it up!!!

[@madddog7]

so interesting .. and another set of rabbit holes to fall into 🙂

[@elliotstoklosa53]

Hey man just went through a brake up so this video and you posting helps me so much thank you!!!!

[@arturcampos52]

Not related to the video, but I just gotta say I really loved your podcast The Interruption, you sir truly are a great detective!

[@wallijacanero1532]

About the automatic drawings, yes they were supposed (to be and) to look like scribblings! but labeling them with another name was an act to give the casual drawing the same dignity as the common painting had on the common viewer's eye + think deeper about its making-of process... they were seen as another data, for the surrealist movement members, about the human brain's subconscious and its imaginative power. More interesting are the exquisite corpses the Surrealists invented at the time! Despite the name it is still now a funny game to play with your friends, I suggest to check that out! :)

[@Moodboard39]

what a buffoon, is not game ....whats wrong with you

[@Moodboard39]

how old are u? 10?

[@missMOLLY7777]

I love these videos! ❤️

[@twoshirts1842]

I love sleeping because of dreams. My dreams are usually fucking wild.

[@aloc23]

3:23 what an amazing painting

[@spinsandneedles]

I enjoyed the history, artworks, and narration. Thank you.

[@RussellParkerArt]

You belittle what you are unaware is real sir. Thanks for the images.

[@storming.]

I’m in the METAVERSE RIGHT NOW HELP

[@geekdivaherself]

lifeboat I wish you and yours well

[@bagrepequeno5668]

my man got a pretty damn early access to evangelion in his dreams tho

[@Ninjachucks]

I like this video and I want to see more!

[@don_aapo]

Cool video!

[@erikhapers3184]

Great work

[@awdatzya]

great content, as always. recently I've finished The Interruption and it was one of the best podcasts I've ever heard! I really hope you will grow as a content creator and you will come back with another fascinating podcast. I can't wait to see what you have stored for 2023

[@Scede]

I love your channel so much! Thank you for all your work!

[@samhhhhh]

Absolutely love the tie-in with AI art, the parallels are obvious but I hadn't thought of it in that light before.

[@juliadabrowska6268]

the whole video is really informative and gives a lot to reflect upon, I love it! My only request would be for You to improve the pronunciation of the foreign artist's names or to put subtitles with correctly written names, because I can't really understand it and I speak Italian fluently (not my first language though).